01:00:15 <Eksell> Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.21-a0-417-g0adc95b (34)
02:20:23 <Gretell> Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.21-a0-417-g0adc95b (34)
02:35:13 <Lightli> ??plan
02:35:14 <Sequell> plan[1/2]: https://github.com/crawl/crawl/wiki/0.21-Development-and-Release-Plan
02:58:17 <Gretell> Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.21-a0-417-g0adc95b
03:11:44 <Rotatell> Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.21-a0-417-g0adc95b (34)
03:54:48 <Gretell> Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.21-a0-417-g0adc95b
07:15:56 <Yermak> Is there bool parameter that is true when tourney is going on and that can be used in rc file?
07:29:53 <gammafunk> no
07:30:12 <gammafunk> I suppose we could add one
07:30:40 <gammafunk> but it also seems a bit unecessary
08:00:50 <Yermak> Wow, my spire just attacked from out of los.
08:02:57 <aidanh> the tiles UI stuff is coming along nicely: https://a.pomf.space/jfmptvhxvktp.png
08:03:57 <aidanh> I'm still on the fence wrt monospaced vs non-monospaced text
08:04:52 <aidanh> and of course it'll be a lot of work to update all the UIs; but the layout algos are working quite nicely
08:08:33 <Cheibriados> Player's Lightning Spire attacked from out of los. 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=11276 by Yermak
08:21:38 <gammafunk> dang
08:21:41 <gammafunk> looks nice aidanh
08:33:47 <aidanh> gammafunk, thanks!
09:14:04 <Cheibriados> 03Aidan Holm02 {advil} 07* 0.21-a0-418-gdc3326c: Fix issue orders prompt when not berserk 10(2 weeks ago, 1 file, 1+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/dc3326c9ce27
09:25:41 <advil> do we have a dev policy on when to close PRs? Can I just unilaterally close something that I'm not into and think won't get merged?
09:32:11 <advil> unrelated to my previous question, aidanh what was the context for changing the direction of dreem sheep?  maybe it's consistency with other lair herd animals?
09:32:17 <advil> *dream
09:49:50 <aidanh> advil, that was it: previous discuss wrt autoflipping tiles to face the player mentioned that all monsters are supposed to face left, while player tiles face right
09:50:11 <advil> ok, yeah, it seems like it was just that sheep already pointed right
09:50:28 <advil> hm, there's a pink dream sheep tile lingering in mantis: https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10855
09:51:31 <Cheibriados> 03Aidan Holm02 {advil} 07* 0.21-a0-419-gd80284d: Make dream sheep tile face left 10(2 weeks ago, 1 file, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d80284d3e569
09:52:11 <aidanh> I'm ambivalent about the pink, but the white shadow in the current tile is iffy
09:53:19 <advil> current tile does look a bit too much like just any old sheep, needs more sparkles or something
09:55:44 <aidanh> speaking of sparkles, I think the sparkles in mnoleg's tile make it unclear
09:55:53 <advil> heh good catch with this doll + title screen thing
09:56:25 <aidanh> it was only after browsing through the title splash images that i realized what mnoleg was supposed to look like
10:03:11 <aidanh> yeah that doll+title-image was a weird one; didn't make any sense until I'd figured out the whole render layer system
10:25:38 <gammafunk> sparkles?!?!
10:26:10 <gammafunk> advil: yeah, you certainly can close a PR if you think that it's the case that it's not mergeable
10:26:23 <gammafunk> It's good to say why you're closing it, of course
10:28:21 <advil> ok, yeah, I just went ahead and closed the one about random melee noise...not opposed to someone else reviving it in some form if they can be persuaded (just probably not that form)
10:29:22 <Cheibriados> 03Yermak02 {advil} 07* 0.21-a0-420-g54598c2: Remove reference to cleared levels from 'Out of the depths' paragraph. 10(18 hours ago, 1 file, 3+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/54598c23b2e5
10:30:03 <advil> Yermak: for future reference it's good to put "[skip ci]" in the commit message for things like that, so that travis doesn't run unnecessarily on it
10:30:18 <Yermak> ok
10:33:09 <aidanh> pretty sure 'deficits' is the wrong word to use (in that commit)
10:33:14 <advil> aidanh: independently of your change to the title screen with "tile_skip_title = true" I get a blank screen where I need to click, before the main menu will show up, have you seen that?  I *think* it might be the result of a more from dprfs in a debug build?
10:33:55 <advil> hm yeah deficits is a bit weird
10:34:56 <aidanh> advil, no, i get a brief flash of the title screen and then the menu appears; no clicking required
10:35:28 <advil> yeah, it's a weird interaction with a --more-- from having a ton of saves (I had 59 apparently)
10:36:15 <aidanh> 59 times the fun
10:37:13 <advil> all accumulated from debugging
10:44:03 <Cheibriados> 03Aidan Holm02 {advil} 07* 0.21-a0-421-gfc1ce30: Fix title screen lingering when tile_skip_title = true 10(12 days ago, 2 files, 4+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/fc1ce30da2bc
10:49:27 <advil> I tweaked the messaging slightly there so that the "press any key" isn't flashed, but otherwise didn't change anything
10:49:33 <advil> also, what is up with that todo in
10:49:36 <advil> !source TitleRegion::run
10:49:36 <Sequell> 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/tilereg-title.cc#L78
10:49:38 <advil> very weird
10:56:08 <aidanh> I'll have a look at that at some point
10:58:34 <advil> may be useful for people who want to merge PRs from the command line with a rebase workflow and never remember git commands (like me): https://gist.github.com/rawlins/dcd19d7156e83ea3d1e0e1e2617988e8
10:59:27 <advil> for some reason that workflow is *impossible* for me to find all in one place on the internet
13:05:29 <Henzell> Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.21-a0-421-gfc1ce30 (34)
13:33:37 <amalloy> advil: imo we shouldn't encourage contributors to skip ci. even if it looks obvious that the change can't break anything, it's not like it costs us a bunch of money to run the tests
13:47:06 <Tux[Qyou]> lol
13:47:21 <Tux[Qyou]> apparently if you bleed smoke
13:47:24 <Tux[Qyou]> and somebody opens the door
13:47:29 <Tux[Qyou]> that somebody is visible
13:47:46 <Tux[Qyou]> http://prntscr.com/h5ubfc
13:48:04 <Tux[Qyou]> http://prntscr.com/h5ubke
14:14:31 <amalloy> interesting. i see why but i don't know what the right fix is
14:17:08 <amalloy> well maybe i don't see why but i at least found some relevant cod
14:17:09 <amalloy> *code
14:38:54 <advil> amalloy: even for documentation changes?
14:38:58 <advil> hm, maybe that door+smoke bug is related to https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10892
14:39:03 <advil> which I've never been able to figure out
14:39:50 <amalloy> i mean, "obviously" a documentation change won't break anything in CI, but there's no harm in running the CI anyway
16:03:45 <TZer0> Good news: all logfile have survived the transfer.
16:03:53 <TZer0> *logfiles
16:32:10 <gammafunk> nice
16:32:32 <gammafunk> TZer0: any actual data loss so far, or will we have to wait and see?
16:32:58 <gammafunk> logfiles and milestone files are really important, although we also have backups on sequell...well maybe we do
16:33:06 <gammafunk> maybe it doesn't store the actual file
16:56:33 <|amethyst> gammafunk:  it does I think, and scoring definitely does
16:57:40 <gammafunk> oh, cool
18:26:13 <gammafunk> !lg * wizmode s=name
18:26:14 <Sequell> 281 games for * (wizmode): 139x Neil, 79x gammafunk, 17x bh, 8x wheals, 8x cbrotest, 5x wizamalloy, 5x Medar, 4x MarvinPA, 4x dpeg, 3x Brannock, 3x Basil, 2x reaver, 2x test, reaverb, qwqw
18:26:31 <gammafunk> can't believe neil stole my wizmode record
18:26:55 <|amethyst> easy enough to fix
18:27:32 -!- KamiKatze_ is now known as KamiKatze
18:38:08 <amalloy> |amethyst: nobody can outpace you when it comes to ending games
18:39:40 <elliptic> I could set qw up to work on this record
18:40:12 <|amethyst> qw has wizmode?
18:40:44 <elliptic> no, but I can modify qw's rcfile and use it on other accounts that do have wizmode
18:40:51 <|amethyst> ah
18:41:19 <|amethyst> I guess I could just spam a bunch of rows to the logfile on CAO
18:41:33 <|amethyst> will be faster since you don't have to actually go through dgl and crawl
18:41:56 <elliptic> yes, I think I'd better not join this competition
18:42:02 <elliptic> I'll leave it to you and gammafunk
18:42:26 <|amethyst> !lg . wizmode s=tiles,src
18:42:27 <Sequell> 140 games for |amethyst (wizmode): 119x false (51x cszo, 40x cbro, 25x cao, cdo, cue, cxc), 21x true (11x cszo, 5x cao, 4x cbro, cxc)
18:42:43 <|amethyst> !lg gammafunk wizmode s=tiles,src
18:42:44 <Sequell> 11 games for gammafunk (wizmode): 7x false (3x cszo, 3x cbro, cao), 4x true (cao, cbro, cszo, cxc)
18:43:00 <|amethyst> huh?
18:43:14 <elliptic> interesting
18:43:29 <|amethyst> does s=name do nick mapping?
18:43:32 <elliptic> !lg * name=gammafunk wizmode s=tiles,src
18:43:33 <Sequell> 79 games for * (name=gammafunk wizmode): 74x false (58x cszo, 8x cbro, 7x cjr, cao), 5x true (2x cbro, cszo, cao, cxc)
18:43:36 <|amethyst> ah
18:43:37 <|amethyst> !nick gammafunk
18:43:38 <Sequell> Mapping gammafunk => (!gfspeed) gammafunk
18:43:38 <elliptic> no it's that gammafunk has a weird nick
18:43:40 <|amethyst> aha
18:43:46 <elliptic> and nobody knows what gfspeed means!
18:43:49 <elliptic> !kw gfspeed
18:43:50 <Sequell> Keyword: gfspeed => char=ddfi|deie|desu|grgl|heie|hesu|hogl|mffi|mfgl|mfbe|mibe|migl|musu|miwr|trck|vsie|vsfi|vssu !gfslow
18:44:01 <|amethyst> !kw gfslow
18:44:02 <Sequell> Keyword: gfslow => gid=gammafunk:cszo:20151012005803S|gammafunk:cszo:20151012034623S|gammafunk:cszo:20151012034937S|gammafunk:cszo:20160229014823S|gammafunk:cszo:20160304025005S|gammafunk:cszo:20130010123000S
18:44:16 <gammafunk> everybody knows what gfspeed means!
18:44:18 <elliptic> gammafunk: you should rename gfspeed to gfwizmode, you are clearly just using it to hide your wizmode abuses
18:44:57 <gammafunk> gfspeed is all challenge runs, be they turncount or realtime runs, or something like the cwz trck challenge
18:45:27 <gammafunk> gflow are a few games that were those combos but were played casuall, before I started doing challenge runs with those chars
18:45:42 <gammafunk> and weird nick!
18:45:44 <gammafunk> !nick elliptic
18:45:45 <Sequell> Mapping elliptic => (!meleebug) elliptic hyperbolic hyperelliptic circular
18:45:49 <gammafunk> not look at all that
18:45:53 <gammafunk> s/not/now/
18:46:03 <|amethyst> gammafunk:  yours is deeper though
18:46:08 <gammafunk> it isn't!
18:46:11 <gammafunk> !nick meleebug
18:46:12 <Sequell> No nick mapping for meleebug.
18:46:14 <gammafunk> er
18:46:15 <|amethyst> !kw meleebug
18:46:16 <Sequell> Keyword: meleebug => meleebug016|meleebugtrunk
18:46:18 <gammafunk> see!
18:46:19 <|amethyst> ah
18:46:22 <elliptic> IMO meleebug is pretty self-explanatory though
18:46:35 <gammafunk> yeah, but seriously I jsut want to see stats for games I've played casually
18:46:39 <gammafunk> not all the HEIE etc
18:47:13 <elliptic> !nick qw
18:47:13 <Sequell> Mapping qw => (!meleebug !meleebug2) qw hyperqwbe
18:47:23 <elliptic> qw's is even more complicated
18:47:27 <|amethyst> !kw meleebug2
18:47:28 <Sequell> Keyword: meleebug2 => vlong>=0.18-a0-72-g2733cf4 vlong<0.18-a0-323-gfe90d9b
18:47:30 <gammafunk> I could probably better call it gfchallenge
18:47:42 <|amethyst> aha
18:47:44 <gammafunk> meleebug2?
18:47:54 <|amethyst> %git fe90d9bf
18:47:54 <Cheibriados> 07|amethyst02 * 0.18-a0-323-gfe90d9b: Don't add an extra 5-aut delay to monster weapon attacks (bsdbeard) 10(1 year, 11 months ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/fe90d9bf239e
18:48:10 <elliptic> it made monster melee weaker instead of making player melee stronger
18:48:21 <gammafunk> how long was that in?
18:48:28 <|amethyst> %git 2733cf4
18:48:28 <Cheibriados> 07wheals02 * 0.18-a0-72-g2733cf4: Fix issues related to display of attack speed. 10(2 years ago, 14 files, 89+ 149-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2733cf4fda70
18:48:29 <gammafunk> oh I guess you can see there
18:48:29 <elliptic> 251 commits according to that kw
18:48:41 <elliptic> it was just during trunk though
18:48:42 <|amethyst> Nov 10 to Nov 27
18:49:30 <|amethyst> %git
18:49:30 <Cheibriados> 07Aidan Holm02 {advil} * 0.21-a0-421-gfc1ce30: Fix title screen lingering when tile_skip_title = true 10(12 days ago, 2 files, 4+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/fc1ce30da2bc
18:49:36 <gammafunk> !kw gfcasual gid=gammafunk:cszo:20151012005803S|gammafunk:cszo:20151012034623S|gammafunk:cszo:20151012034937S|gammafunk:cszo:20160229014823S|gammafunk:cszo:20160304025005S|gammafunk:cszo:20130010123000S
18:49:37 <Sequell> Defined keyword: gfcasual => gid=gammafunk:cszo:20151012005803S|gammafunk:cszo:20151012034623S|gammafunk:cszo:20151012034937S|gammafunk:cszo:20160229014823S|gammafunk:cszo:20160304025005S|gammafunk:cszo:20130010123000S
18:49:40 <gammafunk> !kw -rm gfslow
18:49:41 <|amethyst> %git HEAD~251
18:49:41 <Cheibriados> 07MarvinPA02 {GitHub} * 0.21-a0-170-g0398fc9: Merge pull request #584 from shmup/master 10(3 months ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0398fc98aeba
18:49:41 <Sequell> Deleted keyword: gfslow => gid=gammafunk:cszo:20151012005803S|gammafunk:cszo:20151012034623S|gammafunk:cszo:20151012034937S|gammafunk:cszo:20160229014823S|gammafunk:cszo:20160304025005S|gammafunk:cszo:20130010123000S
18:50:09 <gammafunk> !kw gfchallenge char=ddfi|deie|desu|grgl|heie|hesu|hogl|mffi|mfgl|mfbe|mibe|migl|musu|miwr|trck|vsie|vsfi|vssu !gfcasual
18:50:10 <Sequell> Defined keyword: gfchallenge => char=ddfi|deie|desu|grgl|heie|hesu|hogl|mffi|mfgl|mfbe|mibe|migl|musu|miwr|trck|vsie|vsfi|vssu !gfcasual
18:50:13 <gammafunk> !kw -rm gfspeed
18:50:14 <Sequell> Deleted keyword: gfspeed => char=ddfi|deie|desu|grgl|heie|hesu|hogl|mffi|mfgl|mfbe|mibe|migl|musu|miwr|trck|vsie|vsfi|vssu !gfslow
18:50:21 <gammafunk> !nick -rm gammafunk
18:50:22 <Sequell> Deleted gammafunk => (!gfspeed) gammafunk
18:50:30 <gammafunk> !nick gammafunk (!gfchallenge) gammafunk
18:50:30 <Sequell> Mapping gammafunk => (!gfchallenge) gammafunk
18:50:35 <gammafunk> !nick -rm gammaspeed
18:50:36 <Sequell> Deleted gammaspeed => (gfspeed|gammaspeedalt) gammafunk gammaspeed
18:51:24 <elliptic> |amethyst: I guess it was a pretty short amount of time for how many commits it was because it included a post-tourney commitstorm
18:52:05 <|amethyst> %git 0.20-b1^
18:52:05 <Cheibriados> 07gammafunk02 * 0.20-a0-1132-ge03441e: Two overflow transporter vaults 10(6 months ago, 1 file, 95+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e03441e5eb43
18:52:08 <|amethyst> %git 0.19-b1^
18:52:08 <Cheibriados> 07wheals02 * 0.19-a0-1936-g330ea1e: Make webtiles mouse control an option (off by default). 10(1 year ago, 4 files, 12+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/330ea1e69365
18:52:12 <|amethyst> %git 0.18-b1^
18:52:12 <Cheibriados> 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.18-a0-1810-g4d79ab2: checkwhite & unbrace 10(1 year, 6 months ago, 2 files, 2+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4d79ab255802
18:52:15 <|amethyst> %git 0.17-b1^
18:52:15 <Cheibriados> 07gammafunk02 * 0.17-a0-2234-g0da9ddf: In the release guide, use -a in the example git tag command 10(2 years ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0da9ddf72ea6
18:52:23 <gammafunk> !nick gammaspeed (gfchallenge|gammaspeedalt) gammafunk gammaspeed
18:52:24 <Sequell> Mapping gammaspeed => (gfchallenge|gammaspeedalt) gammafunk gammaspeed
18:54:03 <|amethyst> elliptic:  I think the general faster pace of dev in 2015 is more significant than the commit storm
18:54:27 <elliptic> possibly, it's still certainly true that things have slowed down
18:54:32 <gammafunk> elliptic: btw, I'm about to implement that heaven on earth -> usk thing, and I read over the old convo you, I, and Lasty had about that, and I had one question
18:54:40 <gammafunk> which is, at what level of piety would this be available
18:55:33 <gammafunk> there are other details like how fast to decay piety (like 50% faster or what)
18:56:09 <gammafunk> also hopefully you saw the exciting new changes to cloud mage and hellbinder
18:56:47 <gammafunk> I'd like to do something for zonguldruk and wucad but further work can maybe wait
18:56:48 <elliptic> I don't know exactly what changes you already made to usk, but I was thinking 6* piety for turning the ability on
18:57:03 <gammafunk> alright
18:57:24 <gammafunk> I haven't made any thus far, but the only change I was planning was moving that ability to usk (and removing Wu Jian)
18:57:37 <gammafunk> we don't really have a home for lunge, another Wu ability we liked
18:58:04 <gammafunk> but based on that last convo it wasn't clear what we would put that on
18:58:22 <elliptic> the idea is that you'll have to choose between this and the telefrag ability
18:58:32 <gammafunk> yeah, that certainly makes sense
18:59:05 <gammafunk> I think you said something about "use telefrag now or wait and use heaven on earth later", but ...
18:59:08 <gammafunk> ??usk
18:59:08 <Sequell> uskayaw[1/6]: God of ecstatic dance. Piety raises very quickly as you deal damage and drops very quickly over time. *: Stomp for AOE damage. **: Teleport through a line of creatures, confusing them. ***: on reaching this piety level, briefly paralyze all enemies in LOS. ****: On reaching this piety level, monsters share damage. *****: Telefrag any monster in LOS.
18:59:18 <gammafunk> ah, right ok
18:59:23 <elliptic> yeah you get telefrag at 5*, though the fail rate can be pretty high then at low invo
18:59:35 <gammafunk> yeah so that will work fine
18:59:47 <elliptic> I haven't played usk recently enough to have a good sense of the details for piety usage
19:00:08 <elliptic> about lunge, I don't see any reason why we have to use the ability anywhere right now
19:00:37 <elliptic> I didn't even think we needed to move heaven on earth to usk before removing wjc
19:00:47 <elliptic> though we might as well if you want to work on it
19:00:52 <gammafunk> yeah, and I wasn't planning to just put it somehwere; it's simple enough to add to something when that thing is apparent
19:01:23 <gammafunk> well I did prefer to take at least one good idea from the god before removal, yeah
19:01:23 <elliptic> but in general I subscribe to the theory of "remove first, think about resurrecting pieces later"
19:01:36 <gammafunk> I mean, removal is just a technical issue of removing code
19:01:45 <gammafunk> and resurrecting is a bit more design (which is fun)
19:02:03 <gammafunk> suffice it to say if there's a problem, it won't stop me (or anyone else) from removing the god
19:03:23 <gammafunk> however if you'd like to "implement" Wu Jian removal yourself right now
19:03:26 <gammafunk> feel free
19:03:47 <gammafunk> I will implement the usk thing first and if that is reasonable, then do the removal commit
19:03:51 <gammafunk> for Wu, that is
19:03:56 <elliptic> I agree resurrecting is harder and more interesting
19:05:15 <gammafunk> actually, technically wu is already removed in that it is marked trunk-only
19:05:48 <elliptic> for lunge, I think it requires more thought about exactly how the mechanic should work (I forget exactly how it currently does but I'd vote for something where you don't need to walk directly at the monster, just from a nonadjacent square to an adjacent square - then also need to decide how to handle multiple monsters)
19:05:49 <gammafunk> oh, and I guess we should disable that disabling for gnolls, since we're pretty happy
19:06:06 <elliptic> but also I'm not sure where the best home is
19:06:21 <elliptic> it wouldn't be a terrible weapon move but it is a bit similar to polearm reaching
19:06:37 <elliptic> it could replace polearm reaching possibly, not sure
19:06:42 <elliptic> or it could be a perk for a god or fixedart or some such
19:07:17 <gammafunk> a buff to cheibriados movement...
19:28:07 <advil> slow-motion lunge
20:19:37 <ProzacElf> put lunge on hydra form :V
20:19:58 <hellmonk> put lunge on polearms
20:20:01 <hellmonk> put lunch on hydra form
20:21:22 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_
20:22:06 <gammafunk> put put on the golf portal
20:22:28 <hellmonk> is that a 0.21 feature
20:46:02 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy
22:36:00 <Yermak> Concerning those screenshots from Tux[Qyou]: https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10892