00:05:48 <rchandra> ah, thanks
00:05:56 <rchandra> I'll keep my bad play away from there for a bit then
01:17:20 <hellmonk> !tell alexjurkiewicz: please update hellcrawl if you haven't already
01:17:20 <Sequell> Sorry hellmonk, I don't know who alexjurkiewicz: is.
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01:48:45 <alexjurkiewicz> hellmonk: updating
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01:48:48 <Sequell> (1/1) hellmonk said (30m 51s ago): please update hellcrawl if you haven't already
01:48:54 <hellmonk> thanks
01:49:15 <alexjurkiewicz> yeah, I can't see the issue with my maths but abilities were feeling cheaper
01:49:34 <hellmonk> I think the formula is actually piety_cost + that big random2 thing
01:49:44 <hellmonk> based on the comment that's what it's supposed to be
01:50:13 <alexjurkiewicz> well good catch
01:50:22 <hellmonk> thank tatris for that one
01:50:30 <hellmonk> brought it up in ##crawl
01:50:46 <alexjurkiewicz> cool speedrun change too
01:51:10 <hellmonk> yeah, tbh increasing maxhp rot might work for normal mode too
01:51:21 <alexjurkiewicz> btw HO should totally be recommended for chei IMO
01:51:25 <alexjurkiewicz> *TK
01:51:27 <hellmonk> maybe so
01:51:36 <hellmonk> yeah I can see adding HO there
01:52:33 <hellmonk> really need to sleep so I'll do some quick testing when the update's done and write up a post about it in the morning
01:52:40 <alexjurkiewicz> axes + invo is perfect for speedrun TK anyhow
01:52:45 <alexjurkiewicz> cool, nn
01:53:56 <alexjurkiewicz> please add a default force more entry for speedrun rotting
01:54:40 <alexjurkiewicz> I guess change mprf(MSGCH_WARN, "You feel yourself begin to rot away!"); in dat/defaults/messages.txt
01:54:47 <alexjurkiewicz> *add, not change
01:54:54 <hellmonk> oh, probably good idea yeah
01:55:25 <hellmonk> kind of expect people trying to turncount speedrun to watch more carefully but maybe I shouldn't expect that
01:56:20 <alexjurkiewicz> I am enjoying playing that mode with autoexplore, and just diving when it hits 30
01:56:20 <hellmonk> I can get that in tomorrow before cbro updates
01:56:24 <alexjurkiewicz> less messing around
02:04:43 <hellmonk> yeah definitely needs a force_more
02:04:51 <hellmonk> I'll commit that tomorrow
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06:38:03 <ZiBuDo> gammafunk: re transfering files onto server --- somehow lost my last configs so ill to remake those but i've recompiled game, file transfer will be longest wait
06:48:03 <gammafunk> ZiBuDo: cool. The plan is still that saves will be lost, but other data should be fine?
06:48:52 <gammafunk> Take your time either way; I only ask since some people on reddit asked about this and I mentioned that would be the case (based on our discussion earlier)
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14:51:34 <Xenobreeder> Could someone please tell me how to get duration in seconds in a sequell query? For example, a query like "!lg . x=dur" — but with output in seconds.
14:57:25 <geekosaur> I think just adding 0 to it 'coerces' it to seconds? check ??lg
15:30:33 <Gramm> provided more things dont inexplicably not work the way they should old saves should be intact gammafunk
15:41:21 <Xenobreeder> geekosaur, it says "dur: Game duration in seconds (integer). Note that idle times are clamped.". This got changed later, but didn't get documented.
15:41:58 <geekosaur> there is discussion  lter in the file about it. the best real description is that the *isplay format* is as a time, but the internal format is integer seconds
15:42:41 <geekosaur> which come to think of it means a simple hack like +0 or *1 ightnot make it change the display format :( (actually * might, + you could reasonably infer the result is still time-like)
15:44:31 <Xenobreeder> !lm xenobreeder x=${1*dur}
15:44:32 <Sequell> 35725. [2017-10-24 09:24:19] [1*dur=0:00:00] casual the Skirmisher (L1 DsFi) began the quest for the Orb on turn 0. (D:1)
15:44:37 <Xenobreeder> Doesn't seem to work.
15:48:09 <Xenobreeder> seconds_interval doesn't help either.
15:55:15 <Napkin> Hmm, v0.20-1-1 - no temple in D4-7
16:14:02 <Cheibriados> Greying out/not greying out missiles in forms 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=11267 by Yermak
16:46:58 <ZiBuDo> gammafunk: I actually transfered most saves but i can't guarantee all of them tbh
17:00:38 <Implojin> hi
17:01:33 <Implojin> I think you guys are already aware of this, since it exists on mantis, but it looks to me like local tiles can't be compiled on windows under msys2//mingw-w64 right now without patching a header in crawl's sdl contrib
17:04:34 <Implojin> since msys2 is listed as the preferred compiling method on windows in INSTALL.txt, I think this might be a problem for people
17:07:43 <Implojin> if I'm understanding this correctly, the problem seems to have come from mingw-w64 updating their version of wine's xinput.h
17:07:48 <Implojin> https://sourceforge.net/p/mingw-w64/mingw-w64/ci/c628bd49a2c8cdee2250430c8d7b7cd95f1fe90a/
17:07:57 <Implojin> https://github.com/wine-mirror/wine/commit/0fe758046ddc0f37944b8a3e075b8a5fdc5d81a4#diff-2bd94ee2f73a16f93bda7805ff84f1e3
17:08:54 <geekosaur> yes, I think we're waiting for msys2 to find its collective butt. I also thought INSTALL.txt was going to be updated to indicate this
17:09:00 <Implojin> it's easy enough to patch this locally, and from browsing the SDL2 repo it might (?) have already been fixed in more-recent versions there
17:09:36 <Implojin> (SDL has added checks around the relevant bits long ago anyway, although I couldn't get them to work locally after trying a rebase to 2.0.6)
17:09:47 <Implojin> (but that's probably just me missing something obvious)
17:10:25 <Implojin> but I think it would be a good idea to patch crawl's sdl contrib so players aren't left working around this locally
17:24:17 <|amethyst> Napkin:  you checked for untaken upstairs on D:8?  There are a few enclosed temple entrances with a downstairs
17:24:49 <Napkin> yes, double checked all stairs on d1-8
17:25:30 <Napkin> there were lots of outside-temple altars, though.. so maybe it's by design?
17:28:16 <|amethyst> Napkin:  no, even in that case there should still be at least a vestigial temple
17:28:36 <|amethyst> Napkin:  probably there was a level-gen bug that caused one of the levels to be disconnected
17:28:47 <|amethyst> Napkin:  I'd report it and upload or link to your save
17:28:56 <Napkin> could be, didn't check with magic mapping
17:29:01 <Napkin> dead already ;-)
17:54:13 <amalloy> the morgue file should say what vaults were generated, right?
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19:40:07 <amalloy> so, zin hates eating sentient beings, ely and tso both hate cannibalism, beogh hates eating orcs...there's another divine dietary restriction i was not aware of
19:54:18 <gammafunk> amalloy: sif hates it if you eat spellbooks
19:54:36 <amalloy> of course gammafunk would know that
20:13:55 <amalloy> anyway the punchline is that good gods hate it when you eat holy monsters. there are exactly two holy monsters in the game who aren't marked as "no corpses": apis and pearl dragon
20:14:04 <amalloy> oh, and holy swine
20:14:44 <amalloy> basically none of which are monsters you ever see, so it very rarely comes up
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20:16:47 <|amethyst> amalloy_:  but now that hides don't require butchery, it's perfectly fine to wear the skins of holy monsters
20:34:59 <gammafunk> holy swine leave a corpse? they really shouldn't
20:35:08 <gammafunk> they don't leave a corpse
20:35:12 <gammafunk> I just checked
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