00:16:50 <rchandra> I can't seem to connect to cjr - getting "server unexpectedly closed network connection".  what could be causing that?  can connect to cao, and other people seem to be using cjr
00:20:00 <|amethyst> rchandra:  possibly the people who are using it are using webtiles?
00:20:06 <|amethyst> I can't seem to ssh to it
00:21:37 <|amethyst> rchandra:  maybe send an email to admin@jorgrun.rocks ?
00:21:40 <Eksell> Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.21-a0-380-gd65dc97 (34)
00:21:40 <geekosaur> likewise fwiw
00:21:46 <Jorgrell> Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.21-a0-380-gd65dc97 (34)
00:21:50 <gammafunk> Jorgrell was going up and down
00:22:12 <gammafunk> oh yeah I get auth failed for cjr
00:23:10 <gammafunk> |amethyst: btw, is dobrazupa.org going down for good? If so, it'd be nice if we could get tournament pages, morgues somewhere, although I'm not sure if we have a host
00:23:50 <gammafunk> maybe cdo could host them
00:25:14 <|amethyst> gammafunk:  I'll get around to filing a ticket at some point with the ISP
00:25:33 <gammafunk> alright, thanks
00:26:07 <|amethyst> I guess I've thrown away about $100 there, since it's been down for a month :)
00:26:30 <gammafunk> heh, sounds like me an my verizon bill when my phone wasn't working
00:28:16 <alexjurkiewicz> !seen zibudo
00:28:16 <Sequell> I last saw ZiBuDo at Wed Sep 20 08:16:29 2017 UTC (3w 5d 20h 11m 47s ago) quitting, saying 'Ping timeout: 255 seconds'.
00:28:35 <rchandra> ok, thanks |amethyst
00:29:18 <gammafunk> zibudo responds to email
00:29:31 <gammafunk> he's probably not aware that the config got messed up or something
00:33:05 <|amethyst> yeah, that was the email listed for him in ??cjr[1]
00:33:21 <|amethyst> oof, it's late, 'night
01:32:52 -!- rchandra is now known as rc_zzz
03:19:23 <Rotatell> Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.21-a0-380-gd65dc97 (34)
03:24:23 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_
03:26:13 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy
03:30:51 <gammafunk> oh
03:30:54 <gammafunk> boots of running
03:30:56 <gammafunk> v. thematic
03:41:22 <travis-ci> The build has errored. (master - 7cd14ec #8826 : advil): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/288831331
04:23:29 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_
05:15:46 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy
07:36:57 <Cheibriados> New branch created: wizlab_changes (5 commits) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/tree/wizlab_changes
07:36:57 <Cheibriados> 03gammafunk02 07[wizlab_changes] * 0.21-a0-381-gbbc241d: Add a -force-map option for objstat and mapstat 10(29 hours ago, 6 files, 60+ 10-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/bbc241dc6fe4
07:36:57 <Cheibriados> 03gammafunk02 07[wizlab_changes] * 0.21-a0-382-g7402856: Give air elementals Vortex, a weakened form of Tornado 10(7 days ago, 10 files, 111+ 34-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7402856485ce
07:36:57 <Cheibriados> 03gammafunk02 07[wizlab_changes] * 0.21-a0-383-g7ea1c86: Show wind immunity in monster info 10(4 days ago, 1 file, 4+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7ea1c864dbf4
07:36:57 <Cheibriados> 03gammafunk02 07[wizlab_changes] * 0.21-a0-384-g1cd3e42: Give Sojobo wind immunity 10(4 days ago, 1 file, 3+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1cd3e423b49a
07:36:57 <Cheibriados> 03gammafunk02 07[wizlab_changes] * 0.21-a0-385-g568de80: Revamp of the Cloud Mage WizLab 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 82+ 69-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/568de8070411
08:32:55 <travis-ci> The build has errored. (wizlab_changes - 568de80 #8828 : gammafunk): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/289000267
08:37:44 <advil> uh oh, not the spirggan air mages
08:39:10 <advil> (surprised it says "errored" when there are failing builds)
08:55:44 <rc_zzz> !tell zibudo can't ssh to CJR, and mail isn't being delivered to admin@jorgun.rocks
08:55:45 <Sequell> rc_zzz: OK, I'll let zibudo know.
08:58:16 <advil> in the past Gramm has had a way to contact zibudo, who doesn't come to IRC much
08:58:55 <advil> I think they may also be an admin on CJR?
08:59:02 <advil> sorry if wrong
08:59:22 <rc_zzz> gotta run now, will check back in later
11:21:45 <Cheibriados> 03Aidan Holm02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/620 * 0.21-a0-381-g43d289b: Add GL render clipping support for local tiles 10(5 days ago, 3 files, 18+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/43d289b50707
11:21:45 <Cheibriados> 03Aidan Holm02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/620 * 0.21-a0-382-ga801f16: Fix sidebar monster/inv background flicker on resize 10(5 days ago, 4 files, 4+ 23-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a801f1643fb2
11:21:45 <Cheibriados> 03Aidan Holm02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/620 * 0.21-a0-383-g740c049: Fix tiles minimap viewport indicator leaving the sidebar 10(5 days ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/740c0491baed
11:21:45 <Cheibriados> 03Aidan Holm02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/620 * 0.21-a0-384-g8ed9be3: Improve layout+spacing of tiles main dungeon view 10(5 days ago, 4 files, 38+ 7-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8ed9be3fd597
11:21:45 <Cheibriados> 03Aidan Holm02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/620 * 0.21-a0-385-g14d58c3: Fix a few tiles rendering glitches 10(3 days ago, 1 file, 26+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/14d58c319f40
11:21:45 <Cheibriados> 03Aidan Holm02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/620 * 0.21-a0-386-g53b8672: Clean unused code, add assertion 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 9-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/53b8672ebd5a
11:21:45 <Cheibriados> 03Aidan Holm02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/620 * 0.21-a0-387-gdfbc2d2: Fix menu rendering when window size is reduced 10(2 days ago, 2 files, 28+ 22-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/dfbc2d2c7ace
11:21:45 <Cheibriados> 03Aidan Holm02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/620 * 0.21-a0-388-ge7c3f7c: Stop drawing current menu page after a MEL_TITLE entry 10(2 days ago, 2 files, 19+ 8-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e7c3f7c9a3ce
11:21:45 <Cheibriados> 03Aidan Holm02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/620 * 0.21-a0-389-gc8658d2: Remove useless visual separator 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 6+ 13-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c8658d215083
11:21:45 <Cheibriados> 03Aidan Holm02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/620 * 0.21-a0-390-geff00c1: Ensure TabbedRegion is given enough height to render tab icons 10(32 hours ago, 3 files, 15+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/eff00c1cb6a3
11:21:45 <Cheibriados> ... and 3 more commits
12:18:55 -!- Dracunos_ is now known as Dracunos
12:31:45 <LexAckson> I like the way Gnolls are working now. It's refreshing to be able to use almost anything that you find. Probably would be a good race for new players?
13:19:00 <Henzell> Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.21-a0-380-gd65dc97 (34)
17:32:16 <Cheibriados> 03gammafunk02 07[wizlab_changes] * 0.21-a0-386-gef48295: Fix a monster list typo (travis) 10(40 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ef48295801e5
18:00:07 <gammafunk> spirggan air mage wasn't my fault, keyboard error, there was nothing I could do
18:12:04 <Lantell> Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.21-a0-380-gd65dc97 (34)
18:23:29 <travis-ci> The build passed. (wizlab_changes - ef48295 #8830 : gammafunk): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/289240323
18:47:56 <advil> does anyone know if there are high dpi displays that have a non-integer device pixel ratio?
18:48:21 <advil> some googling suggests that some phones do, and if I'm interpreting right (?) maybe certain apple devices (but not the one I have)
18:50:42 <advil> also is it always square
18:52:15 <advil> side note I am not a fan of m_
18:54:53 <geekosaur> pretty sure it's always square on modern displays; 'stretching' is annoying. (see also: letterboxed HD video)
18:55:41 <geekosaur> er, non-letterboxed actually. or that annoying thing some sports channels do where they compress the image vertically for a bit and show something (often an ad) in the resulting bottom bar
18:56:18 <advil> ok, that's good
18:56:28 <geekosaur> I mean when SD is converted to HD without letterboxing so it gets horizontally stretched. which I have seen a number of times on the low-rent channels
18:56:34 <advil> both because square makes my life easier, and our font code is already assuming they are square
18:56:57 <advil> the font code already works around the possibility of a non-integer ratio so I can just mimic that
19:27:48 <advil> wow, all sorts of weird things happen if you resize help in master
19:28:00 <advil> (part of what aidanh's PR is fixing)
19:29:13 <advil> hm, wonder why resizing blanks the screen on my laptop but not on my desktop
19:35:46 <Cheibriados> 03Aidan Holm02 07* 0.21-a0-381-g43d289b: Add GL render clipping support for local tiles 10(5 days ago, 3 files, 18+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/43d289b50707
19:35:46 <Cheibriados> 03Aidan Holm02 07* 0.21-a0-382-ga801f16: Fix sidebar monster/inv background flicker on resize 10(5 days ago, 4 files, 4+ 23-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a801f1643fb2
19:35:46 <Cheibriados> 03Aidan Holm02 07* 0.21-a0-383-g740c049: Fix tiles minimap viewport indicator leaving the sidebar 10(5 days ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/740c0491baed
19:35:46 <Cheibriados> 03Aidan Holm02 07* 0.21-a0-384-g8ed9be3: Improve layout+spacing of tiles main dungeon view 10(5 days ago, 4 files, 38+ 7-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8ed9be3fd597
19:35:46 <Cheibriados> 03Aidan Holm02 07* 0.21-a0-385-g14d58c3: Fix a few tiles rendering glitches 10(3 days ago, 1 file, 26+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/14d58c319f40
19:35:46 <Cheibriados> 03Aidan Holm02 07* 0.21-a0-386-g53b8672: Clean unused code, add assertion 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 9-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/53b8672ebd5a
19:35:46 <Cheibriados> 03Aidan Holm02 07* 0.21-a0-387-gdfbc2d2: Fix menu rendering when window size is reduced 10(3 days ago, 2 files, 28+ 22-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/dfbc2d2c7ace
19:35:46 <Cheibriados> 03Aidan Holm02 07* 0.21-a0-388-ge7c3f7c: Stop drawing current menu page after a MEL_TITLE entry 10(2 days ago, 2 files, 19+ 8-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e7c3f7c9a3ce
19:35:46 <Cheibriados> 03Aidan Holm02 07* 0.21-a0-389-gc8658d2: Remove useless visual separator 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 6+ 13-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c8658d215083
19:35:46 <Cheibriados> 03Aidan Holm02 07* 0.21-a0-390-geff00c1: Ensure TabbedRegion is given enough height to render tab icons 10(2 days ago, 3 files, 15+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/eff00c1cb6a3
19:35:46 <Cheibriados> ... and 4 more commits
19:36:41 <advil> huh, shouldn't it usually say that I did the merge?
19:37:32 <advil> %git
19:37:32 <Cheibriados> 07advil02 * 0.21-a0-394-gdc75ea7: Use device pixels for clipping, not logical pixels 10(5 minutes ago, 2 files, 22+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/dc75ea7c3988
19:38:36 <gammafunk> oh no, arithmetic without spacing!
19:38:45 <gammafunk> m_window_height-y-h
19:39:18 <advil> haha oops
19:39:28 <gammafunk> it's ok, think it was that way before your commit
19:39:29 <advil> I'm not attuned to that one so I failed to note it in my review
19:39:48 <advil> amalloy still has to correct me when I do that
19:40:04 <advil> oh you mean it's old code
19:40:17 <gammafunk> well I just see from the diff that it was like that before you changed it
19:40:28 <advil> yeah I see now
19:40:31 <gammafunk> not sure how old that actually is or if Aidan introduced it or whatnot
19:41:20 <advil> that one is from aidanh ;)
19:41:42 <advil> but seriously aidanh, thanks for all that work
19:43:01 <advil> gammafunk: do you know why it didn't set the author as "Aidan Holm {advil}" or whatever? I haven't merged PRs from the command line much so I'm not sure what I did wrong
19:43:25 <gammafunk> oh, that's odd
19:43:39 <amalloy> no, that's normal
19:43:49 <amalloy> oh
19:43:59 <amalloy> no, it would be normal if it *had* done that. i didn't realize you'd said it hadn't
19:44:14 <amalloy> advil: you merged it, i guess?
19:44:21 <advil> I did merge it
19:44:27 <amalloy> it would write foo {bar} if it was a commit authored by foo and rebased/amended by bar
19:44:37 <advil> oh I see, there was no need to rebase
19:44:45 <advil> because he'd just done it, and there were no new commits
19:44:47 <amalloy> but since you created a merge pointing to his actual commit, it's still his commit, committed by him
19:44:51 <advil> and I decided the chunk size was pretty good
19:45:09 <amalloy> and then finally a merge commit, authored and committed by you
19:45:18 <gammafunk> right, but doesn't that still show advil as the commiter in some way?
19:45:21 <advil> well, I don't think there's even a merge commit
19:45:22 <amalloy> no
19:45:24 <amalloy> because he wasn't
19:45:46 <amalloy> all advil did was change what commit the master branch points to
19:45:53 <amalloy> to make it point at one of aidan's commits
19:45:53 <advil> he'd rebased on master and there were no new commits to master
19:46:33 <advil> aidanh: do you want to be represented in the mailmap in any particular way?
19:47:13 <gammafunk> that's interesting, so there's not really a way tell
19:47:18 <gammafunk> who initiated that merge?
19:47:39 <amalloy> not from the git repository, no. github tracks it separately, i think
19:47:46 <gammafunk> I see
19:47:57 <gammafunk> if there was a rebase, then you know, but otherwise you may not
19:48:10 <amalloy> well, he also could have created a merge commit
19:48:18 <gammafunk> yeah but I'm not talking in that case
19:48:30 <amalloy> right, in this case there is no evidence in the repo
19:48:32 <gammafunk> more this case, in terms of someone working from a local repo
19:48:41 <gammafunk> kind of funny, didn't realize that could happen!
19:49:11 <advil> the last commit in the commitstorm is mine, so there's contextual evidence
19:49:56 <gammafunk> sure
19:50:35 <gammafunk> when I make a series of chei nerfs merged from contribute IHateChei, I will author the final commit as amalloy
19:50:41 <gammafunk> *contributer
19:50:52 <amalloy> gammafunk: may as well author all of them as me
19:50:59 <gammafunk> I guess that's true
19:51:20 <amalloy> the commit message for each one a graceful haiku explaining why chei is bad
19:51:36 <amalloy> i don't even love chei that much anymore, but it's a fun meme to participate in
19:51:55 <gammafunk> you could try becoming a "qaz bro" for a while
19:52:04 <amalloy> qaz also OP
19:52:10 <advil> are qaz bros a thing?
19:52:32 <advil> I might be a qaz bro :-(
19:52:52 <gammafunk> there are definitely some big qaz proponents
19:53:01 <gammafunk> I think chei has more followers though
19:53:08 <amalloy> advil: https://www.reddit.com/r/dcss/comments/4e2dyf/cip_oh_yeah_antman_of_loudness_qaz_gong/ is a good qaz reddit post
19:53:09 <advil> I don't like qaz because he's good
19:53:25 <advil> my only difficult 15 rune win is a qaz game
19:53:49 <gammafunk> nice upvoted amalloy post
19:53:53 <advil> well, it was a HOsomething, so difficult is a stretch
19:54:48 <advil> I think that player is the one who sometimes comes into ##crawl and passive-aggressively complains about how we don't have enough male uniques
19:54:48 <amalloy> i remember a post on tavern where someone said they had commissioned a painting to commemorate their Mf^Qaz^^Song^^^^Gong win
19:54:48 <Sequell> GONNNNG!
19:55:00 <amalloy> but sadly they never followed up with a picture of the painting
19:55:03 <gammafunk> wow, did they ever show the painting?
19:55:05 <gammafunk> aw, too bad
19:55:29 <advil> someone in one of my other channels did do a qaz g*ng game, it seemed fun
19:55:30 <amalloy> also i can't even find the post now
19:55:38 <amalloy> advil: imo embrace the gong
19:55:38 <Sequell> GONNNNG!
19:55:41 <advil> all my zigsprint wins have gong, but I've never managed to use it in a real game
19:55:42 <Sequell> SHROANNG!
19:56:10 <gammafunk> I have yet to use it, I feel I've hardly ever found it
19:56:21 <gammafunk> one of those unrands that I've happened to not have generate as much
19:57:26 <amalloy> i've used it a couple times
19:58:18 <amalloy> i think my most recent one was the game where i found out trees can go berserk. i parked myself on the stairs to...lair, i think? turned out to make enough noise i was going to be overwhelmed in treeform
19:58:35 <amalloy> so i went for the rage of the forest
19:58:46 <amalloy> it was not a good item but it was a lot of fun
20:09:49 <amalloy> @??floating eye
20:09:50 <Gretell> floating eye (00G) | Spd: 10 | HD: 9 | HP: 12-19 | AC/EV: 0/1 | see invisible, fly, unbreathing | Res: 06magic(10), 12drown | XP: 142 | Sp: paralysis gaze [06!sil] | Sz: Medium | Int: brainless.
20:18:30 <amalloy> wait, these exist? i thought that was the nethack name, and we had giant eyeballs
20:18:36 <amalloy> @??giant eyeball
20:18:36 <Gretell> unknown monster: "giant eyeball"
20:18:43 <gammafunk> no, the nethack name is "beholder"
20:18:48 <gammafunk> er
20:18:52 <gammafunk> the D&D name is that
20:19:07 <amalloy> http://nethack.wikia.com/wiki/Floating_eye
20:19:10 <gammafunk> yeah this is the same as the nethack name, but that's not a problem, is it?
20:19:14 <amalloy> no, it's not
20:19:22 <amalloy> i just remembered it being different
20:19:22 <gammafunk> it had "giant" removed because of how that can be confusing
20:19:24 <geekosaur> we only have umpteen other eyes to go with it
20:19:25 <gammafunk> in terms of monster size
20:19:46 <gammafunk> "floating" isn't a good descriptor, now that you mention it
20:19:49 <amalloy> %git 802546c6045a8fdc0d1c0010a68d325edfdd4814
20:19:49 <Cheibriados> 07Brannock02 {PleasingFungus} * 0.19-a0-1560-g802546c: Rename giant eyeballs to floating eyes 10(1 year, 1 month ago, 39 files, 86+ 86-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/802546c6045a
20:19:51 <advil> also aren't we opposed to giant things?
20:19:56 <gammafunk> every single eye in dcss "floats"
20:19:56 <advil> well, brannock is
20:20:05 <amalloy> FR rolling eye
20:20:17 <gammafunk> eye beetles?
20:20:19 <wheals_> hopping eye
20:20:21 <advil> bouncing eye
20:20:39 <wheals_> clinging eye
20:20:49 <advil> eye using a hammer to move around like in the new bennett foddy game
20:20:54 <gammafunk> look, eyes are serious business, let's not go poking around with jokes
20:21:14 <gammafunk> eye of paralysis?
20:21:23 <geekosaur> all-seeing eyes :p
20:21:24 <gammafunk> something that actually implied what it did would be good
20:21:32 <amalloy> rename all monsters after a thing they do
20:21:37 <amalloy> bat of flying
20:21:43 <gammafunk> I'm just saying!
20:21:52 <gammafunk> with eyes, what does the eye do?
20:21:57 <gammafunk> we know that bats fly
20:22:02 <Jorgrell> Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.21-a0-394-gdc75ea7 (34)
20:22:07 <geekosaur> bats define the 'batty'move style, so bat of battiness
20:22:18 <gammafunk> just bat works since bats have batty movement
20:22:26 <gammafunk> by eyes don't have "eye movement" or some innate thing
20:22:58 <gammafunk> I guess it's not so much describing what it does as it is describing a unique trait of some kind
20:23:11 <gammafunk> and all eyes float, so floating eye isn't a very good name on some level
20:23:23 <gammafunk> if it were a "plain" eye that would be one thing
20:23:29 <gammafunk> but there's no base behaviour for eyes
20:23:58 <geekosaur> paraleye
20:24:14 <geekosaur> unfortunately it works better in the plural >.>
20:24:29 <advil> they look at you
20:24:29 <gammafunk> retina of rest
20:24:36 <amalloy> payroll eye
20:24:54 <gammafunk> they do look at you, but all eyes look at you, advil
20:25:04 <gammafunk> come on, it's like you guys are bringing your eye-game here
20:25:16 <gammafunk> *aren't, dammit
20:25:47 <advil> actually it would be kind of neat (if frivolous) if eye tiles would always look towards the player
20:25:56 <gammafunk> heh, that would be cute, yeah
20:26:08 <gammafunk> but it might make players think that this ment something special
20:26:25 <gammafunk> would be kind of cool if all tiles could do that, like a real RPG!
20:27:01 <gammafunk> what is that, like 4 tiles for every single monster?
20:27:05 <gammafunk> doesn't seem like a lot of work...
20:27:26 <gammafunk> hrm, maybe it's only 3
20:27:38 <gammafunk> ah, it's 4
20:32:06 <geekosaur> eyedolon, freezes you with fear
21:14:26 -!- mikee__ is now known as mikee_
21:38:11 <rchandra> Gramm:  are you around?
22:42:25 <aidanh> advil: You're very welcome :) getting it all working was quite fun actually
22:44:15 <aidanh> re mailmap, sure; my current name+email is best
23:20:47 <Cheibriados> New branch created: pull/621 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/621
23:20:47 <Cheibriados> 03Aidan Holm02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/621 * 0.21-a0-395-gb24dfa2: Fix tiles UI not being redrawn on expose 10(21 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b24dfa2e31b5