01:19:19 <Gretell> Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.21-a0-351-g38363bb (34)
01:57:56 <Gretell> Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.21-a0-351-g38363bb
02:52:48 <Gretell> Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.21-a0-351-g38363bb
03:11:33 <Rotatell> Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.21-a0-351-g38363bb (34)
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13:05:11 <Henzell> Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.21-a0-351-g38363bb (34)
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15:59:18 <Gretell> Stable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.20.1-1-g8b1a95d (34)
16:57:04 <Napkin> hey |amethyst, you remember who I need to ping to add crawl-0.20 logfiles and milestones to the score parsing?
16:57:15 <Napkin> hey |amethyst, you remember who I need to ping to add cdo's crawl-0.20 logfiles and milestones to the score parsing?
17:37:38 <|amethyst> Napkin: oh, that's me if you mean CAO scoring
17:38:19 <Napkin> ah, great, would you add it please?
17:38:25 <Napkin> usual filenames
17:38:42 <|amethyst> Napkin:  yep, waiting for the current batch to finish so I don't kill it with a transaction open
17:38:45 <gammafunk> I think CAO may need a db rebuild due to that CJR logfile de-dpulication
17:38:46 -!- MadCoyote is now known as FunkyBomb
17:38:52 <|amethyst> probably
17:39:21 <Napkin> great, thank you!
17:41:36 <|amethyst> Napkin:  okay, it's running with the updated list and just fetched the milestones (logfiles in a minute)
17:42:01 <Napkin> cool
17:42:07 <|amethyst> Napkin:  it will take an hour or two before changes show up, since on restart it has to regenerate all the individual player pages
17:42:38 <Napkin> i should really switch to the scripts for dgl.. installing a new version is such a time consuming thing on cdo
17:48:02 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07* 0.21-a0-352-g5b8f553: Fix a (presumed) precision mistake in ad-hoc fixed point code 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5b8f55302a32
17:48:50 <advil> ^ discovered while reimplementing ac code with fixedp
17:54:28 <gammafunk> nice
17:55:04 <gammafunk> when first getting into programming you really have no appreciation for the kinds of things that will regularly drive you insane
17:56:24 <advil> heh, definitely true
17:58:39 <advil> there's another one for naga that I didn't even notice
17:58:55 <advil> oh, for dragonform I mean
18:01:57 <advil> I guess that could be on purpose?
18:02:18 <advil> for dracs and dragons: nt AC = 400 + (100 * experience_level) / 3;
18:02:25 <advil> er
18:02:36 <advil> int AC = 400 + 100 * (experience_level / 3);
18:02:42 <advil> is the one that's there now, sorry
18:03:05 <advil> will only change values every 3 xl, does that seem plausibly intentional?
18:03:54 <gammafunk> oh
18:03:57 <gammafunk> ??draconian
18:03:57 <Sequell> draconian[1/4]: As a player draconian, you are given a random colour you didn't want upon reaching level 7, usually granting a breath attack and a resistance, and changing your aptitudes. See "??<colour> draconian" for details -- red, white, green, yellow, grey, black, purple, pale. Enemy draconians are bad news and found mostly in Zot.
18:04:00 <gammafunk> ??draconian[2
18:04:00 <Sequell> draconian[2/4]: Draconians cannot wear body armour. In 0.10, even their ability to wear dragon armour was removed. Also, they cannot wear helmets. However, they have tough scales: +4 AC, +1 per 3 XL.
18:04:04 <Lantell> Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.21-a0-352-g5b8f553 (34)
18:04:15 <gammafunk> yes, that one is intentionally giving 1 AC per 3 levels I think
18:04:19 <advil> so maybe it's steppy on purpose
18:04:29 <advil> it'd still do that with different grouping, just smoothly
18:04:36 <advil> at the end of the day the ac calculation still gets truncated
18:04:54 <gammafunk> right, would there be any effective difference?
18:05:05 <advil> there might be, because fractional ac is common
18:05:19 <advil> I should at least test it carefully to try to get a sense
18:09:32 <Jorgrell> Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.21-a0-352-g5b8f553 (34)
18:11:34 <advil> this one doesn't seem to matter for any scenario I've come up with, because draconians can't train armour
18:14:31 <advil> ok, so it'd be a buff to draconians that cast cigotuvi's
18:15:37 <amalloy> huh, TIL heroism does not give draconians temporary armour
18:29:24 <gammafunk> good, more reasons to remove/replace cigotuv's!
18:30:13 <Napkin> Why is Barachi considered "advanced"?
18:40:54 <|amethyst> Napkin:  probably because they're slow
18:40:56 <advil> Napkin: I haven't played much of them but I assume it's because of a combination of weird properties (unusual jump ability, los extension) plus bad properties (slow, los extension)
18:42:34 <Napkin> at least as a fighter (str/dex) feels nice and a little bit of slow
18:46:46 <amalloy> !stats bafi
18:46:58 <amalloy> is it not stats?
18:46:58 <Sequell> Starting stats for BaFi: Str 17 Int 8 Dex 11. Stat gain: sid/4
18:48:42 <advil> at one point their stats were a lot worse
18:48:45 <amalloy> they used to have really bad stats but it looks like that was an older version
18:48:54 <amalloy> their apts are fine too
18:49:09 <amalloy> i guess the main weirdnesses are the things advil already said
18:49:09 <advil> %git 8c334429b8ead610d8817e720cba1e2eb403ca75
18:49:09 <Cheibriados> 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.20-a0-770-g8c33442: Give Barachians LOS 8 (gammafunk) 10(8 months ago, 9 files, 60+ 43-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8c334429b8ea
18:49:35 <advil> that commit raised stats and apts
18:49:51 <gammafunk> wow, look at that commit credit, amazing
18:52:01 <advil> %git 9b0dcd9656c55af8a4408
18:52:01 <Cheibriados> 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.20-a0-656-g9b0dcd9: Increase Barachian stats to human levels 10(8 months ago, 2 files, 2+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9b0dcd9656c5
18:52:04 <advil> actually that one
18:54:31 <gammafunk> !kw advanced
18:54:32 <Sequell> Keyword: advanced => VS|Vp|Dg|Fo|Na|Op|Fe--|Ba|Mu
18:54:36 <gammafunk> !kw intermediate
18:54:37 <Sequell> Keyword: intermediate => Hu--|Ko|Ds|Ce|Sp|Te|DE|Og|DD
18:54:41 <gammafunk> !kw simple
18:54:41 <Sequell> Keyword: simple => HO|Mi|Mf|Gr|Dr|Ha|Tr|Gh
18:55:23 <Napkin> maybe it gets more difficult ;-)
18:55:25 <gammafunk> feels like the columns are going for something like learning curve for a new player
18:55:26 <Napkin> g'night o/
18:55:33 <gammafunk> night
18:56:08 <advil> yeah, I suspect it is as much the weirdnesses as the difficulty
19:05:03 <amalloy> it's supposed to be complexity rather than difficulty
19:05:17 <amalloy> but in practice most of the stuff on the left is easy and the right is hard
20:01:40 <hellmonk> so I read through just about every species proposal thats ever been posted in gdd
20:01:53 <hellmonk> and oh man let me tell ya, I've seen some shit
20:02:21 <CanOfWorms> but did you read through the god proposals
20:02:51 <hellmonk> no
20:02:53 <hellmonk> maybe I'll do that
20:03:46 <gammafunk> yeah, there are also a few background proposals
20:04:03 <gammafunk> there was even a PR for something like a...well it was something starting with bolt of magma
20:04:37 <Lightli> how come merfolk still have a +4 polearm apt
20:05:53 <hellmonk> tbh its kind of cool looking at some of them and imagining an ersatz crawl where they got a lot of support and were improved into something playable
20:07:18 <hellmonk> but so many are just like "what if there were golems lol" or "ogre but ice" or "here's something that's not implementable without changing how three different game systems work"
20:09:17 <hellmonk> anyway I'm gonna try and do something in this direction for next year or maybe for yiufcrawl if rumflump ever comes back
20:09:17 <hellmonk> seems like a fun side project
20:39:03 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_
20:40:37 <Cheibriados> MaxHP malfunction during taking upstairs 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=11251 by papilio
20:42:03 <advil> I think there must be something missing in that report
20:49:46 <geekosaur> something is missing but I'd bet the reporter doesn;t know what any better than we do
20:50:18 <geekosaur> !lm papilio
20:50:24 <Sequell> 32984. [2017-10-09 14:43:41] papilio the Basher (L14 FoFi of Okawaru) reached level 6 of the Lair of Beasts on turn 21688. (Lair:6)
20:51:06 <geekosaur> a dump would be nice...
20:51:21 <geekosaur> also that's the worng game since they said FeBe
20:51:42 <geekosaur> !lm papilio febe
20:51:43 <Sequell> 523. [2017-10-09 13:14:54] papilio the Ripper (L14 FeBe of Trog) slain by a jumping spider (Lair:2)
20:52:07 <geekosaur> !lg papilio febe -log
20:52:08 <Sequell> 32. papilio, XL13 FeBe, T:34163: https://webzook.net/soup/morgue/trunk/papilio/morgue-papilio-20171009-131456.txt
21:24:51 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy
21:51:18 <advil> hmm they are including speedrun_rest, but not triggering it, that seems relevant
22:03:11 <advil> still can't replicate it with their exact rc file, though (https://webzook.net/soup/rcfiles/trunk/papilio.rc I assume)
22:07:06 <gammafunk> advil: you might want to check their macro file
22:07:17 <advil> it looked harmless
22:08:43 <gammafunk> I don't see any macro mappings to functions, so probably speedrun_rest isn't relevant, not sure
22:08:47 <advil> https://webzook.net/soup/rcfiles/trunk/papilio.macro
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23:59:27 <Eksell> Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.21-a0-352-g5b8f553 (34)