00:00:08 <|amethyst> oh
00:00:19 <|amethyst> hm
00:00:46 <|amethyst> my change was to to shorten the length of time the original monster had the fake attitude
00:00:50 <|amethyst> %git 68a4807
00:00:50 <Cheibriados> 07|amethyst02 * 0.19-a0-1187-g68a4807: Correct 'your' in Mara messages (#10616) 10(12 months ago, 1 file, 15+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/68a4807f74a8
00:01:02 <|amethyst> s/to to/just to/
00:01:32 <|amethyst> %git 9b6df87a
00:01:32 <Cheibriados> 07greensnark02 * 0.6.0-a1-2956-g9b6df87: Don't let Mara clone player illusions (when enslaved), fix attitude for monsters cloned by enslaved Mara (syllogism). 10(8 years ago, 1 file, 12+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9b6df87a5f84
00:03:04 <gammafunk> heh, another good mara bug
00:03:14 <|amethyst> hm, though I'm surprised the phantom mirror case doesn't have the opposite bug
00:03:30 <|amethyst> of actually creating an exclusion (temporarily) around the new monster
00:04:44 <|amethyst> oh, player_view_update_at doesn't create autoexclusions, only remove them
00:05:17 <|amethyst> then probably Mara could be made to work like phantom mirror, cloning the monster first then setting its attitude
00:05:29 <|amethyst> but I have to imagine there is some subtlety there
00:06:22 <gammafunk> I guess you could also question whether statues should be allowed to have illusions, but I suppose there's not particular reason why not
00:06:36 <|amethyst> it's not specific to statues though
00:06:46 <gammafunk> oh, autoexclude
00:06:58 <|amethyst> same thing would happen with any stationary monster, or any monster that was cloned while asleep
00:07:06 <|amethyst> if you have the right autoexclude, yeah
00:08:01 <|amethyst> OTOH, any bug that this change would cause is probably *also* a bug with phantom mirror
00:08:19 <|amethyst> except I guess monsters can't use phantom mirror
00:12:27 <|amethyst> hm
00:12:36 <|amethyst> // [ds] Bind the original target's attitude before calling
00:12:36 <|amethyst> // clone_mons, since clone_mons also updates arena bookkeeping.
00:12:48 <|amethyst> so fixing it that way might cause arena problems
00:13:13 <|amethyst> (and phantom mirror isn't relevant in arena)
00:15:43 <|amethyst> could add a flag to clone_mons saying not to do the handle_seen_interrupt and viewwindow, then do that separately in _mons_summon_monster_illusion
00:16:06 <|amethyst> that's ugly though
00:44:05 <gammafunk> alexjurkiewicz: I added webtiles support for your icons in 580, but swift seems hard to see: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/205316046230388737/342890215251378176/unknown.png
00:56:53 -!- GiantOwl is now known as Kalir
01:46:36 <gammafunk> invent.cc: In function ‘bool needs_handle_warning(const item_def&, operation_types, bool&)’:
01:46:39 <gammafunk> invent.cc:1676:31: warning: unused variable ‘ego’ [-Wunused-variable]
01:46:42 <gammafunk> const special_armour_type ego = get_armour_ego_type(item);
01:46:50 <gammafunk> |amethyst: is this related to that recent fix Lasty made?
01:47:35 <Cheibriados> 03Alex Jurkiewicz02 {gammafunk} 07* 0.21-a0-158-g2b035f2: Add a tiles icon for monster corrosion 10(10 days ago, 5 files, 9+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2b035f28a46c
01:47:35 <Cheibriados> 03Alex Jurkiewicz02 {gammafunk} 07* 0.21-a0-159-g286e31c: Add a tiles icon for monster swift status 10(10 days ago, 5 files, 9+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/286e31c58206
01:47:35 <Cheibriados> 03Alex Jurkiewicz02 {gammafunk} 07* 0.21-a0-160-g521290c: Improve tile_flags alignment 10(10 days ago, 1 file, 69+ 69-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/521290c9a429
01:47:35 <Cheibriados> 03gammafunk02 07* 0.21-a0-161-gad606a6: WebTiles support for monster corrosion and swiftness icons 10(42 minutes ago, 2 files, 12+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ad606a6df349
01:49:14 <|amethyst> gammafunk:  ah, yes, that should be removed as well
01:55:59 <Cheibriados> 03gammafunk02 07* 0.21-a0-162-g12d3df0: Remove an unused variable 10(27 seconds ago, 1 file, 0+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/12d3df0a6ae2
01:56:21 <Gretell> Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.21-a0-157-gb89e0e2
02:10:10 <Jorgrell> Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.21-a0-162-g12d3df0 (34)
02:18:55 <gammafunk> !bug 10813
02:18:56 <Sequell> https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10813
02:19:40 <gammafunk> !bug 886
02:19:40 <Sequell> https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=886
02:19:41 <gammafunk> !bug 8862
02:19:41 <Sequell> https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8862
02:49:06 <Cheibriados> 03gammafunk02 07* 0.21-a0-163-g3aa3f5d: Fix glyph usage in a vault (alexjurkiewicz, minmay) 10(26 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3aa3f5dc5792
02:52:22 <Gretell> Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.21-a0-162-g12d3df0
03:10:04 <Jorgrell> Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.21-a0-163-g3aa3f5d (34)
03:12:05 <Rotatell> Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.21-a0-163-g3aa3f5d (34)
05:00:36 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_
06:53:24 -!- Reverie is now known as Catiua
07:32:10 <Rotatell> ziggurnaut (L18 DgIE)  (Vaults:3)
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10:42:13 <cojito> hi devs
10:42:20 <cojito> anyone have a second to look at what I think is a bug?
10:43:40 <cojito> nvm
10:43:42 <cojito> user error
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13:04:38 <Henzell> Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.21-a0-163-g3aa3f5d (34)
13:27:06 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy
14:29:17 <LexAckson> Should !Agi and !Might be marked useless for Gnoll in trunk?
14:30:37 <MarvinPA> presumably not, they should still get the non-stat effects
14:30:46 <LexAckson> hmm okay looks like you still get EV, but I don't think it displayed right away...
14:30:47 <LexAckson> let me see
14:31:03 <MarvinPA> although that's a good reminder that maybe those potions shouldn't give the stat boost at all and just do the other bonuses
14:31:08 <LexAckson> I saw the Agi status but my EV was white and did not change
14:31:21 <LexAckson> but went into inventory and it's blue and higher now
14:31:46 <MarvinPA> oh it probably skips the redraw
14:31:56 <LexAckson> ahh okay
14:31:57 <MarvinPA> assuming that since your stats didn't change it doesn't need to do one, when actually it still does
14:36:16 <advil> that definitely sounds like something the hud code would do
14:43:25 <advil> does anyone know why a bunch of random stuff in describe.cc is conditional on crawl_state.need_save?  Is that code called automatically for some sort of objstat like thing or something?
14:45:17 <advil> aha maybe ?/ from the main menu
14:45:19 <MarvinPA> i think you can go to the ?/ menus before-
14:45:19 <MarvinPA> yeah
14:45:33 <gammafunk> advil: it seems to be a way of checking that a game has started, yeah
14:46:29 <advil> it all makes sense now
14:46:31 <advil> well, sort of
14:46:48 <advil> I'm not sure everyone who has changed stuff in this file has understood that
14:47:21 <amalloy> advil: imo we should have a Conributor Agreement where you have to sign that you know what need_save means before you're allowed to be a True Dev
14:47:37 <advil> hahaha how many things would have to be on the list
14:48:20 <gammafunk> you have to read and understand all of beam.cc
14:50:01 <amalloy> put a paragraph in about how by accepting your dev membership eula you acknowledge chei is better than sif
14:50:56 <gammafunk> with a picture of amalloy's latest chei character stuck in a corner, dying to a ghost
14:51:15 <gammafunk> caption has him typing a note: this is not chei's fault btw
14:51:17 <amalloy> chei demands blood sacrifice
14:51:21 <amalloy> lol
14:52:14 <amalloy> seriously though my last two chei games have me a lot less bullish on chei than i was, even if it is still fun to meme gammafunk
14:53:01 <gammafunk> well I don't really understand the perspective of how you rank things as strong or not in the first place
14:53:14 <amalloy> the second-last game i won, but Fo^Chei is not as strong when you're a good player as when i won FoEE^Chei as a drooling noob
14:53:22 <amalloy> neither do, i man
14:53:50 <amalloy> (comma was typed too soon because chei was slowing down my typing of words)
14:54:13 <gammafunk> I need something like step from time for when I make irc typos
14:54:40 <gammafunk> after the message is sent with the typo, I can have all the time I need to come up with a follow-up message that makes me not look so bad
14:55:27 <amalloy> i think step from time is the opposite of that
14:55:37 <amalloy> you typo something, and then just vanish for three hours
14:55:45 <gammafunk> hrm, maybe that's just as good
14:55:46 <amalloy> and everyone is like, wow he was so embarrassed
14:55:47 <|amethyst> ??meleebug
14:55:47 <Sequell> meleebug[1/2]: The git commit e0bdd66 roughly doubled player melee damage. This was not fixed until around halfway through the 0.16 tournament. http://s-z.org/neil/images/logicbug.jpg
14:56:11 <gammafunk> that's a pic of neil using Dith's shadow form
14:57:43 <amalloy> you know, i've looked at that image maybe dozens of times. and this is the first time i noticed the decal thing on the back of the bus
14:57:43 <|amethyst> heh
14:58:03 <gammafunk> it is a nice touch
15:11:07 <amalloy> how did the giaggostuono become A Crawl Thing? like it is a player tile for funsies; what is the history of that?
15:12:45 <gammafunk> it was the randname of a scroll
15:12:51 <gammafunk> ??giaggostuono
15:12:52 <Sequell> I don't have a page labeled giaggostuono in my learndb.
15:12:58 <gammafunk> ?/giag
15:12:59 <Sequell> Matching terms (1): the_giaggostuono; entries (4): dieselteamideas[2] | good_names[12] | the_giaggostuono[1] | the_giaggostuono[2]
15:13:08 <gammafunk> ??the giaggostuono
15:13:20 <Sequell> the giaggostuono[1/3]: http://www.cowmuffins.net/stuff/THEGIAGGOSTUONO.png
15:13:20 <gammafunk> ??the giaggostuono[2
15:13:20 <Sequell> the giaggostuono[2/3]: Available for player use with the rc option `tile_player_tile = tile:mons_giaggostuono' ; see https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/rltiles/mon/unique/giaggostuono.png
15:13:20 <gammafunk> ??the giaggostuono[3
15:13:20 <Sequell> the giaggostuono[3/3]:  http://i.imgur.com/85vMH74.png
15:13:32 <gammafunk> I think minmay got it in one of his games, found it funny
15:13:36 <gammafunk> and then made the comic
15:13:43 <gammafunk> later someone made a tile from it
15:14:06 <gammafunk> well the tile part is irrelevant I guess; but yeah it's a name from crawl's random name generator
15:15:18 <amalloy> aha. was the scroll actually THE GIAGGOSTUONO? that's pretty good?
15:15:42 <amalloy> i guess either way it's cute
15:16:22 <gammafunk> not sure about the "THE"
15:31:42 <|amethyst> yes, "THE" was part of the scroll name
15:32:27 <|amethyst> ??good names[12]
15:32:28 <Sequell> good names[12/28]: <instar> _You see here a scroll labeled THE GIAGGOSTUONO.
15:33:01 <|amethyst> sadly, it is no longer possible
15:34:53 <|amethyst> (not because the randname rules have changed, but because there are only so many seeds)
15:35:23 <|amethyst> (only so many seeds and the RNG has changed since then)
16:27:51 <minmay> I didn't get the scroll in one of my games but I did draw the first pic
16:55:32 <bh> frickin' RNG
16:55:32 <Sequell> bh: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it.
16:55:49 <bh> !seen lasty
16:55:49 <Sequell> I last saw Lasty at Fri Aug  4 02:38:10 2017 UTC (18h 17m 39s ago) quitting, saying 'Quit: Leaving.'.
16:56:03 <bh> !tell lasty do you want to get a beer?
16:56:04 <Sequell> bh: OK, I'll let lasty know.
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17:57:25 <|amethyst> added my thoughts to 11171 (the OCS clone exclusion bug)
17:57:56 <|amethyst> Since yesterday I thought of a third solution that is probably better, namely to add a mon_attitude_type parameter to clone_mons
17:58:48 <|amethyst> but we'd have to add a new enumerator ATT_SAME or such to be the default for that parameter
18:00:06 <|amethyst> if I do that, I'd also suggest making it a scoped enum ("enum class", what a terrible syntax)
18:00:20 <|amethyst> s/I do/someone does/
18:04:06 <Lantell> Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.21-a0-163-g3aa3f5d (34)
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