00:07:29 <minmay> j
00:10:28 <Jorgrell> Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.21-a0-150-gc243083 (34)
00:23:34 <alexjurkiewicz> ugh, github is annoying, I can't have a fork of both vanilla crawl and hellcrawl
00:23:45 <alexjurkiewicz> since github thinks hellcrawl is a fork of vanilla crawl
00:29:55 <Eksell> Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.21-a0-150-gc243083 (34)
00:31:46 <gammafunk> %git 0.20.0~1
00:31:46 <Cheibriados> 07gammafunk02 * 0.20-b1-26-g8729b15: Final 0.20 changelog 10(9 weeks ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8729b15a00de
00:31:53 <gammafunk> %git 0.20-b1
00:31:53 <Cheibriados> 07gammafunk02 * 0.20-b1: Two wand-themed transporter vaults 10(2 months ago, 1 file, 78+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f1950390862f
00:31:55 <gammafunk> %git 0.20-b1~1
00:31:55 <Cheibriados> 07gammafunk02 * 0.20-a0-1132-ge03441e: Two overflow transporter vaults 10(2 months ago, 1 file, 95+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e03441e5eb43
00:32:05 <gammafunk> %git 0.19-b1~1
00:32:05 <Cheibriados> 07wheals02 * 0.19-a0-1936-g330ea1e: Make webtiles mouse control an option (off by default). 10(9 months ago, 4 files, 12+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/330ea1e69365
00:35:41 <alexjurkiewicz> hellmonk: i figured it out, spells are ordered by fail rate
00:35:49 <hellmonk> ok
00:36:10 <hellmonk> doesnt talked about making some sort options a long time ago but I'm gonna guess it's not happening
00:36:29 <hellmonk> would be good to have though
00:36:46 <alexjurkiewicz> I'd just like level + alpha. fail rate can be confusing when you have skill in various spells
01:05:58 <alexjurkiewicz> !tell hellmonk https://github.com/Hellmonk/hellcrawl/pull/38
01:05:59 <Sequell> alexjurkiewicz: OK, I'll let hellmonk know.
01:51:10 <Cheibriados> Unaccessible shop 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=11161 by Yermak
01:51:17 <alexjurkiewicz> !source notify_stat_change
01:51:17 <Sequell> 1/2. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/player-stats.cc#L367
01:56:51 <alexjurkiewicz> ??wizardry
01:56:51 <Sequell> wizardry[1/2]: Makes spellcasting less likely to fail. Comes in staff and ring form. Stacks, but not very well. Vehumet grants a similar boost to {destructive spells}, which stacks well with regular wizardry.
01:56:57 <Gretell> Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.21-a0-150-gc243083
02:54:32 <Gretell> Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.21-a0-150-gc243083
03:12:14 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_
03:22:30 <Rotatell> Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.21-a0-150-gc243083 (34)
04:26:01 <advil> I guess someone here has seen the problem with http://crawl.develz.org/trunk/ since amalloy_ posted in the reddit thread
04:27:00 <advil> how is that file generated? doesn't seem to be part of dcss-website
04:38:19 <gammafunk> it's generated on cdo itself
04:38:46 <gammafunk> there's a crontab to do the trunk update on cdo, and part of that updates the page
04:38:59 <gammafunk> but I can't read the script to see what's happening
04:39:46 <gammafunk> Napkin: Are you able to see why http://crawl.develz.org/trunk/ is no longer able to update the html page with the trunk builds, even though the builds are being made and the rss feed is still ok?
04:41:57 <advil> ah I see
04:42:33 <advil> I'm guessing some variable just needs to be changed to switch from 0.20-a to 0.21-a
04:42:33 <Napkin> yes, 1s
04:43:31 <Napkin> ~crawl/bin/update-trunk-indices.py is the issue
04:44:28 <Napkin> i'll adjust it
04:44:44 <Napkin> or will you, gammafunk?
04:45:13 <gammafunk> I can try if I have write access
04:45:15 <gammafunk> let me se
04:45:16 <gammafunk> e
04:46:01 <Napkin> you have, of course
04:46:26 <Napkin> this update-trunk-indices.py is called somewhere - i think at the end of building the mingw build
04:52:29 <gammafunk> updated and ran it
04:52:31 <gammafunk> looks like it worked
04:52:37 <Napkin> great, thanks :)
04:53:15 <gammafunk> looks like the archive is missing all the past 0.21 trunk ones
04:53:15 <gammafunk> but I assume that can only work with a new build as it comes in
04:53:21 <gammafunk> http://crawl.develz.org/trunk/archive.html
04:53:36 <gammafunk> so hopefully that will start updating with new 0.21 trunk builds
04:53:57 <Napkin> what do you mean?
04:53:58 <advil> I see 0.21 there
04:54:03 <Napkin> i see 0.21-a0 there
04:54:14 <gammafunk> oh, I had cached version
04:54:14 <gammafunk> sorry
04:54:15 <Napkin> (at the very end)
04:54:17 <gammafunk> looks good :)
04:54:19 <Napkin> ah, good :)
04:54:20 <advil> well, just windows
04:54:28 <gammafunk> yeah my browser cache just showed me the old one, but I see it now
04:54:35 <gammafunk> advil: we only do windows builds on cdo
04:54:38 <advil> but I guess only windows gets built
04:54:39 <gammafunk> and I guess linux debs?
04:54:45 <gammafunk> yeah osx is not possible
04:54:46 <Napkin> macosx builds are (no longer) provided externally
04:54:57 <Napkin> android seems to be done all externally
04:55:12 <gammafunk> I suppose I should remove those sections
04:55:17 <gammafunk> for android + os x
04:55:23 <Napkin> you could remove the archive sections from the python script
05:03:01 <gammafunk> ok, all unnecessary entries from both sections removed, and the update still works
05:03:05 <gammafunk> thanks 'kin :)
05:22:29 -!- oleum_ is now known as oleum
06:55:39 -!- culcube is now known as phyphor
12:23:33 <geekosaur> just noticed in ##crawl [26 16:11:53] <Vanguardan> Hey, I'm trying to register on the tavern, but every time I try and enter the captcha it tells me "confirmation hash does not match."
12:28:28 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy
13:25:12 <Henzell> Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.21-a0-150-gc243083 (34)
13:28:24 <amalloy> advil: would you like to be added as an /r/dcss mod? you seem to be fairly active there
16:14:44 <Rotatell> ziggurnaut (L18 BaWn)  (Spider:1)
17:25:16 -!- crate_ is now known as crate
17:48:45 -!- Guest59293 is now known as bh
18:15:14 <Lantell> Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.21-a0-150-gc243083 (34)
18:27:01 <advil> amalloy: hmm, sure, if there's need
18:27:32 <amalloy> advil: no need really. the mod load is very low. but you could distinguish/sticky posts you want to get more attention as official responses from teh dev team
18:28:09 <advil> ah I see...yeah r/dcss seems relatively stress free, which is a good thing
18:28:25 <advil> (no interest in ever modding tavern!)
18:29:39 <amalloy> the most recent mod action was taken a week ago, and there's nothing in the queue needing to be addressed
18:30:16 <advil> heh
18:33:15 <advil> thanks
18:33:43 <advil> wow, lots of stuff to avoid accidentally clicking on now
18:34:01 <amalloy> the dangerous stuff all has "are you sure" prompts
18:45:35 <gammafunk> well, for r/dcss we do have at least a couple bad apples there
18:45:43 <gammafunk> but historically it's been very hands-off for moderation
18:46:05 <gammafunk> I think this is mostly because the reddit wasn't founded by any devs, they were just nice enough to extend mod rights to a few devs, who then gave it to other devs
18:46:13 <gammafunk> so we're more an infestation
18:46:23 <|amethyst> the fact that such stuff almost always gets voted down helps
18:46:39 <gammafunk> that's true, probably it de-motivates a lot of those trolls
18:47:05 <advil> heh there's only one non-dev mod
18:47:15 <gammafunk> I think that's the person who created the reddit
18:48:00 <advil> yeah, I've noticed some of the bad apples you probably mean, but they seem minor as these things go
18:48:04 <gammafunk> I might make an official dcss Discord depending on how things look for me free-time-wise for the next 6 mo
18:48:23 <gammafunk> I don't want to start that if I'm not going to be around to keep it going though
18:48:27 <advil> tired of the roguelikes discord?
18:48:50 <gammafunk> well, there are definitely a few bad players there as well (sadly one of those is one of the teenage admins)
18:49:10 <gammafunk> but no, it would more be that we can do a lot more in discord
18:49:13 <gammafunk> on a server that we run
18:49:28 <gammafunk> however for that to be a thing someone has to have the time to run it
18:49:29 <advil> ah...I log into that one like once a month so I don't have a great sense for it
18:49:52 <gammafunk> I have Dynast blocked there because he's as venomous as ever, but it's nothing too bad really
18:50:06 <gammafunk> a lot of questions from newbies that get answered by experienced players
18:51:29 <gammafunk> but didn't want to get the discussion of reddit off-track; I see lots of reports on reddit posts, but I never act on them
18:52:01 <gammafunk> They are mostly trolly posts, but sometimes it's just someone advertising their stream (Ic0n was doing this recently, which I guess some people didn't like)
18:52:38 <gammafunk> But since there's not really anything very problematic going on, it's probably good to keep the off-hands approach, I guess
18:52:51 <advil> yeah, seems reasonable
18:53:05 <gammafunk> off-hands?
18:53:08 <gammafunk> hands-off
18:53:13 <advil> I'm certainly not suited to be a hands on mod
18:53:39 <gammafunk> You don't want lengthy PMs with ranty messages about how unfair you are?
18:53:50 <advil> heh
18:53:57 <advil> do you get mail from jiyvajelly or something?
18:53:59 <gammafunk> Actually, you're in academia, you probably get more than enough of things like that!
18:54:07 <gammafunk> No, speaking more of tavern
18:54:11 <advil> ah
18:54:16 <gammafunk> Because I sometimes have to do moderation there
18:54:18 <advil> yeah no tavern modding for me
18:54:34 <advil> I'm generally more positive about crawl when I don't interact with tavern much
18:54:35 <gammafunk> But it's more mods who make more mod actions that get those; archaeo certainly has seen a bunch
18:54:46 <gammafunk> heh, yeah
18:55:03 <gammafunk> Interacting with players in general can be.....an adventure
18:55:34 <gammafunk> If we were doing commercial game dev at some kind of important game company, they wouldn't let us go near them so much I'm pretty sure
18:56:30 <advil> iirc when I took the survey, whenever that was, I left a comment like "I'm sort of interested in contributing more but the players seem way too hard to deal with"
18:57:13 <advil> actually they're ok, but that was when I'd been spending too much time on tavern
18:57:25 <gammafunk> you have to have "soft eyes"
18:58:55 <advil> also they usually like it when I fix stuff, it turns out
18:59:19 <gammafunk> oh yeah, if you do what they tell you to do, then you're in their good graces for at *least* 24h
18:59:26 <advil> heh
18:59:41 <amalloy> players were not very happy with the way mountain dwarves were fixed
18:59:57 <gammafunk> But they're so much more enjoyable to play now!
19:01:11 <Cheibriados> Visual glitch: brand weapon 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=11162 by Yermak
19:01:24 <advil> I didn't play crawl at all between about 2008 and 2012, so I missed the MD thing entirely
19:01:43 <amalloy> i missed it too, but it echoes throughout history
19:01:46 <amalloy> !lg . 1
19:01:47 <Sequell> 1/418. amalloy the Chiller (L3 FeIE), slain by a worm on D:2 on 2014-08-08 02:41:12, with 51 points after 2342 turns and 0:11:24.
19:02:38 <advil> I remember when I started back up in 2012 I was more upset about hive than MD
19:53:42 <Rotatell> ziggurnaut (L18 BaWn)  (Spider:2)
20:34:45 <Cheibriados> 03Alex Jurkiewicz02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/580 * 0.21-a0-147-g9615e0a: Updated corrosion icon 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9615e0a09741
21:06:04 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_
21:28:56 <alexjurkiewicz> !seen brannock
21:28:57 <Sequell> I last saw Brannock at Tue Jul 18 03:49:01 2017 UTC (1w 1d 21h 39m 55s ago) quitting, saying 'Quit: Leaving'.
21:29:07 <alexjurkiewicz> I like that brannock keeps thumbs upping all my PRs
21:31:23 <alexjurkiewicz> Floodkiller: can this PR be closed? https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/532
21:35:10 <alexjurkiewicz> johnstein: the oldest trunk save on CPO is yours. Congratulations! It was last modified in October 2014
21:58:25 <johnstein> !lg . cpo
21:58:25 <Sequell> No games for johnstein (cpo).
21:58:39 <johnstein> !lm . cpo 1
21:58:41 <Sequell> 1. [2014-10-29 09:14:44] johnstein the Ducker (L1 OpBe of Trog) began the quest for the Orb on turn 0. (D:1)
21:58:55 <johnstein> !lm . cpo
21:58:56 <Sequell> 1. [2014-10-29 09:14:44] johnstein the Ducker (L1 OpBe of Trog) began the quest for the Orb on turn 0. (D:1)
21:59:05 <johnstein> the one, the only
22:00:22 <alexjurkiewicz> !lm johnstein cpo x=cv
22:00:23 <Sequell> 1. [2014-10-29 09:14:44] [cv=0.16-a] johnstein the Ducker (L1 OpBe of Trog) began the quest for the Orb on turn 0. (D:1)
22:00:32 <alexjurkiewicz> probably owuld transfer just fine
22:00:41 <alexjurkiewicz> need to remove Op or Be from 0.21
22:08:52 <Floodkiller> alexjurkiewicz: gammafunk kept it open during the merge, not sure if he still wants it around yet
22:24:02 <gammafunk> It can stay open
23:42:04 -!- Telnaior_ is now known as Telnaior