00:10:16 <alexjurkiewicz> hellmonk: bug report: as a Dr being slowed by a whip of freezing seems permanent
00:10:29 <hellmonk> huh, interesting
00:10:32 <alexjurkiewicz> cancellation "fixes" it
00:10:41 <Jorgrell> Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.21-a0-143-g1ab7d47 (34)
00:10:44 <alexjurkiewicz> or at least the duration is hundreds of turns
00:10:47 <hellmonk> ok, will investigate
00:11:00 <hellmonk> this is on your server?
00:11:25 <hellmonk> (ie has been messed up for a while?)
00:12:12 -!- Amnesiac_ is now known as Amnesiac
00:12:12 <alexjurkiewicz> yes it's on CPO, only seen this since the update
00:12:28 <hellmonk> which update, the qazlal/makh one?
00:13:39 <alexjurkiewicz> the latest one you posted about
00:13:49 <alexjurkiewicz> This is Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup v3.33-hellcrawl-45-g82e5c05
00:14:26 <hellmonk> oh, did you update w/ the permabuff thing
00:15:38 <hellmonk> yeah, seems to be permanent
00:16:21 <hellmonk> I can get a fix for this out tomorrow probably
00:16:44 <hellmonk> appears that potion haste also cancels it, not sure what's going on here
00:17:22 <hellmonk> appears to apply to other sources of slow too, weird
00:21:04 <alexjurkiewicz> pls make summons permanent btw
00:21:25 <alexjurkiewicz> i added friendly hound speech for a reason
00:24:14 <hellmonk> permasummons would be ok I guess, a lot of the cool ones like summon forest dont work well with it though
00:25:03 <gammafunk> take the kilobyte/elliptic route and remove summons
00:25:34 <hellmonk> but how will I get gammafamma to play it
00:25:45 <gammafunk> an alternate future where the dev nazis won the war
00:25:53 <gammafunk> you need hot fresh new content for me to play it
00:26:29 <hellmonk> ok I'm pushing the fix
00:26:30 <gammafunk> like uh, the pupper zone and the DankLord's keep
00:26:37 <hellmonk> in like a few minutes
00:27:13 <gammafunk> and entire level that's e1m1 from Doom
00:27:51 <Eksell> Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.21-a0-143-g1ab7d47 (34)
00:28:28 <hellmonk> ok, fix pushed
00:28:54 <hellmonk> should be safe to rebuild but you can wait for travis if you want
00:29:45 <hellmonk> something else that was mentioned is making transmutations permanent until canceled, will probably do that as well
00:30:00 <hellmonk> huge quality of life improvement to be had there
00:32:53 <gammafunk> time to figure this evoker
00:45:05 <alexjurkiewicz> rebuilding hellmonk
00:45:45 <alexjurkiewicz> if tmuts become permanent it might change how tmuts play significantly, specifically it will be safer to have very high fail rate transformations
00:45:59 <hellmonk> sure, but you'll have to reserve a lot of mp for them
00:46:17 <hellmonk> ergo are locked out of other buffs, gspirit, possibly escape spells
00:46:27 <hellmonk> like if you want 50% dform you have to reserve 28 mp
00:47:01 <hellmonk> playtesting might adjust the balance on that though ofc
00:48:08 <alexjurkiewicz> wait 28mp to reserve dform? how does that work
00:48:18 <alexjurkiewicz> does the reserved mp increase with fail rate?
00:48:22 <hellmonk> yes
00:48:48 <hellmonk> spell level/success rate^2, or 1000 if it's really big fail bc it would underflow if I didn't do that
00:48:53 <hellmonk> *overflow
00:49:00 <hellmonk> w/e it was bugged is my point
00:49:44 <hellmonk> so you can't cast >90% fail buffs at all basically, 50% = 4x the spell level, once you're in the low% it's effectively just spell level or spell level +1
00:50:03 <alexjurkiewicz> that's clever, I missed that in the post
00:50:23 <hellmonk> it was a msp/goodcoolguy/whatever other name he has idea
00:50:32 <hellmonk> seemed pretty effective place to start
01:56:49 <Gretell> Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.21-a0-143-g1ab7d47
02:46:51 <gammafunk> MarvinPA: I was looking into making the lightning rod recharge whenever a shot is fired. Do you think it's good that the the more charges you've used out of max charges, the more powerful it is, irrespective of whether you used it the last turn?
02:47:15 <gammafunk> er, s/whenever a shot is fire/even when there are charges left/
02:48:24 <gammafunk> I think the original intent of the thing was that this only happened when it was used "continuously"
02:54:39 <Gretell> Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.21-a0-143-g1ab7d47
03:02:52 <alexjurkiewicz> !source cast_blink
03:02:52 <Sequell> 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/spl-transloc.cc#L423
03:06:10 <alexjurkiewicz> !source random_near_space
03:06:10 <Sequell> 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/teleport.cc#L443
03:22:15 <Rotatell> Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.21-a0-143-g1ab7d47 (34)
03:22:20 <amalloy> gammafunk: i approve of making it recharge without having to empty it. its current behaviour really surprised me but i forgot to fix it
03:22:38 <gammafunk> yeah, that I am for sure doing
03:22:53 <gammafunk> but the behaviour I mentioned is a sort of subtle aspect of the evoker many probably don't realized
03:23:17 <gammafunk> the old way let you decide to not use charges so you could have a single powerful shot
03:23:26 <amalloy> i think ideally damage would be based on "fired last turn", but if it's easier to fix the recharging while making the damage based on "how many charges left" i'd prioritise fixing the charging
03:23:44 <gammafunk> or a shot that's more powerful based on how many you have left
03:24:02 <gammafunk> yeah, charging will get fixed regardless
03:24:02 <ProzacElf> oh yeah, that messed with me earlier
03:24:05 <amalloy> i think that strategy you suggest is "never" a good idea
03:24:11 <amalloy> so taking it away is not a big deal
03:24:16 <gammafunk> but my question is basically should this be allowed
03:24:27 <ProzacElf> i went through like half of D and a couple other branches before i figured out that it wasn't going to recharge
03:24:32 <gammafunk> obviously amalloy has never decided between a BFG and a plasma rifle!
03:24:36 <ProzacElf> lol
03:24:51 <gammafunk> do you even know how to two-shot cyberdemons?!
03:25:13 <ProzacElf> just make it like plasma guns in 40k
03:25:17 <amalloy> gammafunk: no, but i can dance circles around red dragons
03:25:17 <ProzacElf> regular fire or supercharged
03:25:28 <amalloy> (have been playing crypt of the necrodancer recently)
03:25:31 <ProzacElf> and let supercharge use all the charges at once =p
03:25:36 <gammafunk> nice, I've never played
03:25:38 <ProzacElf> and have a chance to also hurt you
03:26:04 <amalloy> it's cool being forced to make decisions ~50x faster than i do in every other roguelike
03:26:14 <gammafunk> what's that crazy challenge where you can't miss a single beat
03:26:19 <gammafunk> in the entire game
03:26:27 <amalloy> win as aria
03:26:44 <amalloy> she can't switch weapons, can't get more than 1HP, and loses HP when she skips a beat
03:27:03 <amalloy> i have unlocked her by winning as cadence and melody but am not nearly good enough to win
03:41:41 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_
04:51:51 -!- mngr_ is now known as daiy
09:13:05 -!- Amnesiac_ is now known as Amnesiac
12:27:55 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy
13:16:04 <MarvinPA_> gammafunk: i mainly went with the current approach for ease of implementation while still keeping the behaviour of increasing power with use
13:16:17 <MarvinPA_> but maybe the best approach is just to give it a fixed power per shot
13:16:30 <MarvinPA_> since the increase is pretty opaque
13:17:14 <MarvinPA_> either that or only do the power increase for consecutive blasts since consecutive attacks do already have clearly special behaviour, letting you make arcs and stuff
13:23:53 <Henzell> Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.21-a0-143-g1ab7d47 (34)
16:00:15 <Cheibriados> Autopickup/explore breaks under specific circumstances 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=11159 by Pekkekke
16:49:31 -!- exitnode__ is now known as exitnode
18:14:44 <Lantell> Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.21-a0-143-g1ab7d47 (34)
18:45:12 <johnstein> ^status
18:45:12 <Rotatell> 36 Crawlers. CBRO disk usage=86% (135GB) | RAM usage=34% (4GB)| uptime/CPU= 18:45:12 up 143 days, 23:23,  5 users,  load average: 0.73, 0.61, 0.58 (4 Cores) http://status.berotato.org
23:53:46 <Cheibriados> New branch created: pull/580 (3 commits) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/580
23:53:46 <Cheibriados> 03Alex Jurkiewicz02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/580 * 0.21-a0-144-gaac070b: Add tiles icon for corrosion 10(11 minutes ago, 5 files, 9+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/aac070b20a30
23:53:46 <Cheibriados> 03Alex Jurkiewicz02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/580 * 0.21-a0-145-g19b8262: Add tiles icon for swiftness/sprint 10(3 minutes ago, 5 files, 9+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/19b8262b6cf5
23:53:46 <Cheibriados> 03Alex Jurkiewicz02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/580 * 0.21-a0-146-g61d1aa8: Improve tile_flags alignment 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 69+ 69-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/61d1aa893479
23:54:36 <gammafunk> |amethyst: is it a known bug where pull requests make Cheibriados send an abbreviated message in ##crawl?
23:55:48 <alexjurkiewicz> which one is abbreviated?
23:56:21 <gammafunk> well your PR led chei to print
23:56:32 <gammafunk> < Cheibriados> New branch created: pull/580 (3 commits) https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/580
23:56:35 <gammafunk> and that's it
23:56:48 <gammafunk> so just the first message of the four it printed just now
23:57:12 <gammafunk> not really a big deal since it's only one message, just probably would be good for chei not to print it at all
23:57:29 <|amethyst> gammafunk:  that's the same message printed whenever any branch gets created
23:58:21 <|amethyst> oh, you said ##crawl
23:59:01 <alexjurkiewicz> ah
23:59:01 <alexjurkiewicz> wait, people in ##crawl can see when I create PRs?!
23:59:09 <alexjurkiewicz> but they're meant to be secret
23:59:11 <gammafunk> yeah, this was in ##crawl
23:59:26 <alexjurkiewicz> people will victimise me when I open the PR to make lom lobon female