00:19:38 <gammafunk> hrm
00:19:41 <gammafunk> this C++ syntax
00:19:49 <gammafunk> this is declared as
00:19:58 <gammafunk> class TravelDelay : public BaseRunDelay
00:20:06 <wheals_> looks familiar
00:20:12 <gammafunk> and then seems to have an instantiator of
00:20:20 <gammafunk> public:
00:20:20 <gammafunk> TravelDelay() : BaseRunDelay()
00:20:20 <gammafunk> { }
00:20:47 <gammafunk> wow, wheals hated that code so much he just left
00:21:09 <gammafunk> but seriously, what is that syntax doing, exactly?
00:21:13 <wheals_> some of my best work
00:21:49 <wheals_> the first part declares it as inheriting from the BaseRunDelay class
00:21:54 <gammafunk> right
00:22:12 <wheals_> the second part means that when you call the TravelDelay constuctor, the BaseRunDelay constructor gets run first
00:22:29 <gammafunk> alright, that was my guess, but it's sort of strange how it does this in the first place
00:22:38 <gammafunk> given that the instantiator is then just empty?
00:23:01 <gammafunk> does it even need this declaration? or would it somehow not have a valid instantiator declaration if it didn't have this?
00:23:15 <gammafunk> I'd have thought it would just call the BaseRuneDelay one if you declared nothing
00:23:35 <gammafunk> or do you have to declare something ot have an instantiator for TravelDelay() at all?
00:24:18 <gammafunk> either way I think I understand; I should be not lazy and read up on a C++ resource to understand any further
00:24:26 <wheals_> i'm not sure whether it uses the inherited ctor by default
00:25:19 <gammafunk> I assumed any methods declared in the base class would work from derived class unless the base class had something virtual
00:25:33 <gammafunk> not a big deal though
00:25:41 <gammafunk> my current issue with understanding travel code is actually in
00:26:24 <gammafunk> find_travel_pos() and its move_x and move_y arguments
00:27:11 <gammafunk> this function is called with and without these arguments, and its behaviour changes a lot based on that
00:27:49 <gammafunk> namely it reverses src and dst positions when those pointers are provided, since it's in a "actually find the next move" mode, I think
00:28:14 <gammafunk> versus simply populating stair distances
00:42:12 <Cheibriados> Autoexplore doesn't stop when petrified by hell effects 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=11142 by Lavandula
00:42:30 <nikheizen> ebin
00:42:52 <nikheizen> (imo fix your rc Lavandula)
00:52:20 <checkers> hell effects could perhaps force more by default
00:53:21 <nikheizen> that would be nice actually, remove a couple dozen lines from bloated rcfiles everywhere
00:59:45 <|amethyst> 7
01:00:06 <nikheizen> 7 lines?
01:00:21 <|amethyst> no, I accidentally typed into the wrong window
01:27:11 <gammafunk> The phone rings. Gammafunk picks up the phone. Gammafunk: "Hello?" Linley's Ghost: "...seven lines of code"
02:52:06 <Gretell> Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.21-a0-110-g8e1637b
03:53:49 <nikheizen> vaults, How do I place a monster on top of a different type of terrain? KFEAT?
03:58:06 <Wander> KMONS & KFEAT
03:58:17 <Wander> use the same glyph for both
03:58:55 <Wander> @ nikheizen
04:00:43 <nikheizen> thanks
04:01:09 <nikheizen> what is the name of the feature shallow water, shallow_water? (is there a list)
04:01:37 <Wander> should be shallow_water but you can just do KFEAT = W
04:01:51 <Wander> https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:help:maps:syntax:glyphs
04:02:04 <Wander> https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:help:maps:syntax:headers
04:02:37 <Wander> meant KFEAT: ? = W
04:02:39 <Wander> woops
04:03:02 <nikheizen> thanks
04:24:01 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_
05:14:53 <gammafunk> the names are also in feature-data.h
05:15:10 <gammafunk> but yeah for pre-existing defs you can reuse those in your KFEAT
05:15:18 <gammafunk> works with items as well
05:15:25 <gammafunk> so KITEM: ? = |
05:45:29 <nikheizen> Does C always place a beogh altar in orc?
05:50:19 <Wander> Don't think so, but you can just do KFEAT: C = altar_beogh
05:51:18 <Wander> @ nikheizen
05:51:45 <nikheizen> would be nice to not waste a line :P
06:14:31 <Cheibriados> 03nikheizen02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/554 * 0.21-a0-85-gc1f8bbe: Reduce feature randomization in two nzn float vaults. 10(22 minutes ago, 1 file, 66+ 97-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c1f8bbe210b4
07:28:58 <gammafunk> nikheizen: C is random altar iirc
07:29:08 <gammafunk> not conditioned on where the vault is
07:39:05 <checkers> !source dungeon.cc
07:39:06 <Sequell> https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dungeon.cc
07:40:03 <checkers> !source _pick_an_altar
07:40:03 <Sequell> 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dungeon.cc#L172
07:40:09 <checkers> nikheizen: i think it uses that function?
07:41:10 <gammafunk> oh, does it?
07:42:52 <gammafunk> yeah then it's not so random
07:43:17 <gammafunk> boy some of these don't make a lot of sense
07:44:07 <nikheizen> Was just asking because i was testing out a vault which could spawn in orc and 3/3 tests were B
07:44:22 <gammafunk> yeah, highly weighted towards B in orc
07:44:53 <gammafunk> syntax guide just says "random altar"; that should be updated
07:45:03 <nikheizen> interesting
07:45:08 <nikheizen> "kinda random altar"
07:45:44 <gammafunk> I wouldn't be surprised if a few vaults used C having no idea that the potential gods are nonrandom
07:46:04 <gammafunk> but I suppose most using it for that purpose would be in D or Depths or Vaults
07:46:16 <gammafunk> where it is a random non-temple god
07:47:14 <nikheizen> a random god which does not appear in temple that game
07:47:32 <|amethyst> ?
07:47:43 <|amethyst> it's a random god that isn't Lugonu, Beogh, or Jiyva
07:48:06 <gammafunk> also xom has increased weight
07:48:11 <gammafunk> since xom has its own roll
07:48:27 <gammafunk> unless the random god selector excludes xom?
07:48:34 <|amethyst> it does not
07:48:35 <gammafunk> !source random_god
07:48:36 <Sequell> 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/religion.cc#L459
07:48:38 <gammafunk> ah, welp
07:48:46 <|amethyst> !rng foo bar baz xom
07:48:46 <Sequell> The RNG chooses: xom.
07:48:47 <nikheizen> <gammafunk> where it is a random non-temple god what did he mean by this
07:48:47 <|amethyst> !rng foo bar baz xom
07:48:48 <Sequell> The RNG chooses: xom.
07:48:51 <|amethyst> seems accurate
07:49:17 <nikheizen> !rng 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 xom
07:49:17 <Sequell> The RNG chooses: xom.
07:49:24 <nikheizen> oh huh
07:49:46 <gammafunk> nikheizen: non-temple god means gods that can "never" appear in temple in the since of "not except special temple vaults"
07:50:01 <|amethyst> gammafunk:  but that's backwards
07:50:06 <nikheizen> !rng 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 x*m
07:50:06 <Sequell> The RNG chooses: 4.
07:50:09 <|amethyst> gammafunk:  it's a random non-non-temple god :)
07:50:13 <nikheizen> yes you said the wrong thing
07:50:26 <gammafunk> right I said non-temple and should have just said temple
07:50:31 <nikheizen> ty
07:50:55 <gammafunk> it's especially confusing since those gods can actually appear in temple
07:51:02 <gammafunk> hrm, can beogh though?
07:51:22 <gammafunk> do we have a beogh temple map
07:51:28 <gammafunk> we have ones for J and L
07:51:39 <nikheizen> no
07:51:50 <gammafunk> Beogh: The only true non-temple god
07:51:59 <nikheizen> remove?
07:52:04 <gammafunk> stupid!
07:52:12 <gammafunk> stupid! remove?
07:52:41 <nikheizen> remove
07:54:46 <nikheizen> I changed up that vault to remove unnecessary lua and pointless randomization as well as different features based on depth.
07:55:24 <nikheizen> Put the subst in comma-separated lines and changed the map glyphs a bit.
07:56:10 <gammafunk> yeah, I saw, haven't had time to go through it, but looks like you've cleaned things up
07:56:33 <gammafunk> I gazed upon the red lines of removal and I declared
07:56:35 <gammafunk> It is good.
07:57:02 <gammafunk> I'll have some time to go through it after I finish some of what I'm working on
07:59:50 <|amethyst> gammafunk:  IMO the beogh temple should have, not Beogh altars, but orc priests
08:03:56 <gammafunk> dang
08:04:40 <gammafunk> the jiyva/beogh/lucy transporter vaults I made came about because Cheibrodos suggested a beogh altar vault that was basically that
08:04:48 <gammafunk> just some orc priests ambushing you
08:05:12 <gammafunk> I didn't exactly take his idea, but I decided to make transporter altar vaults for the non-temple gods
08:06:02 <gammafunk> but I guess you could be cute and have orc priests in temple behind runed doors (and transparent stone)
08:06:35 <gammafunk> or on the other side of lava or something
08:06:45 <nikheizen> imo put them behind iron grates
08:07:10 <gammafunk> we probably don't have it just because orc priests are so common even pre-temple, so beogh temple isn't too interesting
08:07:48 <nikheizen> yes and the best thing about beogh is the conversion mechanic anyway
08:07:59 <nikheizen> s/best/only good/
13:08:54 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy
13:54:59 <Eksell> p0werm0de (L17 DsBe) ERROR: range check error (27000 / 52) (Spider:3)
15:19:58 <johnstein> I've modified layout_geoelf_castle.des for my crypt layout and have removed the moat, turrets, and hallways from generating (i.e. it just creates the rooms adjacent to the primary vault) but there's a 1 block wide hallway that's still generating outside those rooms that I can't get rid of. it's getting annoying
15:21:08 <advil> !crashlog
15:21:09 <Sequell> 17640. p0werm0de, XL17 DsBe, T:34452 (milestone): http://crawl.xtahua.com/crawl/morgue/p0werm0de/crash-p0werm0de-20170710-175438.txt
15:23:22 <johnstein> https://github.com/jmbjr/crawl/blob/cryptic-layout/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/builder/layout_cryptic_divisions.des
15:23:36 <geekosaur> johnstein, probably need to look at SUBST/SHUFFLE foo that randomizes where the hallway is created
15:24:32 <johnstein> it always generates as a 1 tile wide perimeter hallway
15:25:06 <johnstein> I've tried changing the constants at the top of the file but no matter what I change nothing looks different
15:28:30 <geekosaur> https://github.com/jmbjr/crawl/blob/cryptic-layout/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/builder/layout_cryptic_divisions.des#L530
15:29:12 <geekosaur> and subsequent add_corridor invocations
15:30:18 <johnstein> ah ok. I've passed that section a few times and it never really hit me
15:30:26 <johnstein> I think I kept assuming it was being handled as a separate region than an actual corridor
15:30:39 <johnstein> thanks
15:53:03 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07* 0.21-a0-111-g52d2817: Don't allow non-inventory items to be auto-assigned item slots 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/52d281702dce
16:09:38 <Jorgrell> Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.21-a0-111-g52d2817 (34)
16:36:58 <travis-ci> The build has errored. (master - 52d2817 #8515 : advil): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/252145087
18:03:07 <Lantell> Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.21-a0-111-g52d2817 (34)
19:30:26 <ProzacElf> ??test
19:30:27 <Sequell> test[1/42]: blaargh blaargh blaargh blaargh blaargh
19:32:20 <amalloy> ??test[32
19:32:21 <Sequell> 418. amalloy the Grave Robber (L1 DENe), slain by a ball python on D:1 on 2017-06-13 01:55:53, with 7 points after 217 turns and 0:03:44.
19:32:41 <amalloy> !learn q test[32
19:32:41 <Sequell> test[32/42]: do {!lg .}
19:32:49 <amalloy> madness
19:41:44 <gammafunk> slain by a ball python
19:41:46 <gammafunk> sad way to go
19:43:17 <amalloy> dude it was a rough start
19:43:29 <amalloy> but also i messed it up
19:48:29 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_
20:02:49 <wheals_> ??test[32
20:02:50 <Sequell> No games for wheals_.
20:03:00 <wheals_> oh right
20:13:35 -!- mibe_ is now known as mibe
20:39:36 <gammafunk> !lg wheals
20:39:37 <Sequell> 3635. wheals the Vexing (L2 BaEn), succumbed to a goblin's poison on D:1 on 2017-05-30 12:24:33, with 22 points after 1052 turns and 0:01:13.
20:43:02 <wheals_> goblins are my baen
20:44:39 <CanOfWorms> goblins are your bae?
21:00:27 <minmay> don't make me come up with another poem
21:43:45 -!- QuailChaser is now known as menche
21:58:20 -!- menche is now known as Menche
23:01:19 <johnstein> !tell hellmonk I will try to get around to experimentals this weekend. sorry for the continued delays and thanks for your patience
23:01:20 <Sequell> johnstein: OK, I'll let hellmonk know.
23:01:56 <hellmonk> no worries
23:01:57 <Sequell> hellmonk: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it.
23:01:58 <johnstein> FYI to other devs. not sure if any other experimentals will be wanted to come back
23:30:44 <gammafunk> I don't believe so
23:40:20 <hellmonk> where are my lacertillians gammafunk
23:40:33 <hellmonk> where are they
23:45:53 <gammafunk> they're in hellcrawl 1.0
23:59:13 <johnstein> looks like we had frogs, cyno, council-god, dpegs_dynamic_monsters, and hellcrawl as experimentals just prior to tourney
23:59:25 <johnstein> frogs are OK to not bring back. hellcrawl is coming back
23:59:34 <Eksell> Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.21-a0-111-g52d2817 (34)
23:59:36 <johnstein> anyone know about cyno, dynamic monsters, or council-god?
23:59:58 <hellmonk> councilgod is in trunk right? just was disabled for tourney