00:00:06 <elliptic> that players might plausibly want to travel back to
00:00:19 <gammafunk> yes, I'd like to implement that
00:00:48 <Eksell> Stable (0.20) branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.20.0-6-gd3061e9
00:10:54 <Jorgrell> Stable (0.20) branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.20.0-6-gd3061e9
00:21:13 <Jorgrell> Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.21-a0-37-g7dc85f4 (34)
00:49:45 <gammafunk> &rc morganleah
00:49:47 <Sequell> http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/rcfiles/crawl-0.20.0/MorganLeah.rc
00:50:01 <gammafunk> elliptic: looks like your fix for &rc has trouble on cbro 0.20
00:50:03 <gammafunk> !fn version_fixup
00:50:03 <Sequell> !fn version_fixup (v) (if (match a $v) git (if (= $v 0.2) "0.20" $v))
00:50:08 <gammafunk> !lg morganleah fmt:"\$(!echo ${v})"
00:50:09 <Sequell> 0.20.0
00:50:44 <gammafunk> I guess that's why it was doing that weird split it did before
00:50:57 <elliptic> weird split?
00:51:03 <gammafunk> version_fixup
00:51:09 <gammafunk> it used to do a ..not a split
00:51:34 <gammafunk> well actually yes I think it did a split and then a sub and then a join
00:51:36 <elliptic> I don't think the change I made removed anything like that? maybe I accidentally did?
00:51:48 <gammafunk> ah, actually my first attempt at fixing it did
00:51:58 <gammafunk> and you probably based yours on that, so maybe it's my error
00:52:09 <gammafunk> I'll have to look back in the logs for the old version and adapt
00:52:47 <elliptic> yeah, if you can find the old version that would be helpful
00:54:13 <gammafunk> version_fixup (v) (if (match a $v) git (join . (sub 0 2 (split . $v))))
00:54:16 <gammafunk> that's the old one
00:54:57 <gammafunk> right, removing the subversion is what that's doing
00:55:02 <gammafunk> I don't think I realized that at the time
00:56:22 <gammafunk> !fn version_fixup(v) (if (match a $v) git (if (= $v 0.2) "0.20" (join . (sub 0 2 (split . $v)))))
00:56:22 <Sequell> Invalid function name: version_fixup(v)
00:56:38 <gammafunk> !fn version_fixup (v) (if (match a $v) git (if (= $v 0.2) "0.20" (join . (sub 0 2 (split . $v)))))
00:56:38 <Sequell> Redefined function: !fn version_fixup (v) (if (match a $v) git (if (= $v 0.2) "0.20" (join . (sub 0 2 (split . $v))))) (was: !fn version_fixup (v) (if (match a $v) git (if (= $v 0.2) "0.20" $v)))
00:56:49 <gammafunk> &rc morganleah
00:56:51 <Sequell> http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/rcfiles/crawl-0.20/MorganLeah.rc
00:57:24 <Brannock> gammafunk, I had a discussion with minmay about extending cloud immunity to other issues w/ cloud (the discussion was specifically about tornado displacement, but it applies to impact damage too I guess) and I'm honestly not sure what to do about that one way or another
00:57:27 <Brannock> I can see the arguments for both
00:57:30 <Brannock> do what you think is best, I suppose
00:57:34 <Brannock> !tell PleasingFungus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aK7AKjrl8Cg
00:57:34 <Sequell> Brannock: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know.
00:58:11 <gammafunk> I think it's probably good to make it extend to things the player would logically think they're protected from
00:58:17 <Brannock> my personal opinion is that cloud immunity means cloud immunity, not other-associated-effect immunity, but I can see that gets really fiddly
00:58:18 <Brannock> eyah
00:58:20 <Brannock> *yeah
00:58:49 <Brannock> plus extending it makes the ego slightly less niche
00:59:00 <gammafunk> yeah
00:59:11 <gammafunk> I'd listen to rational arguments either way as well, but it seemed ok to me
01:20:24 <gammafunk> hrm
01:20:27 <gammafunk> .gfgtr -ttyrec
01:20:28 <Sequell> 52. Phindah, XL9 MiBe, T:6390: Can't find ttyrec
01:20:53 <gammafunk> |amethyst: do you know if that directory listing change you made might affect sequell/footv finding ttyrecs on cao
01:22:22 <minmay> !tell brannock I intuitively expect cloud immunity to protect me from tornado because while I'm in a hostile tornado it gives me the "Cloud" status light
01:22:23 <Sequell> minmay: OK, I'll let brannock know.
01:58:11 <Gretell> Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.21-a0-37-g7dc85f4
01:58:34 <Cheibriados> 03gammafunk02 07* 0.21-a0-38-g95c5c02: Down-weight two transporter overflow vaults 10(84 minutes ago, 1 file, 9+ 13-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/95c5c02e2032
01:59:06 <geekosaur> it shouldn't because both get full path information from the milestone and the listing change should change only something trying to load the directory itself?
01:59:31 <Cheibriados> 03gammafunk02 07[stone_soup-0.20] * 0.20.0-7-g3b7b877: Down-weight two transporter overflow vaults 10(85 minutes ago, 1 file, 9+ 13-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3b7b877f26df
01:59:32 <geekosaur> (and if it needed to load the directory then every footv should trash the server the same way the crawler was)
02:00:18 <gammafunk> geekosaur: I believe ttyrec filenames are obtained through some kind of directory listing.
02:00:30 <gammafunk> the ttyrec isn't encoded in the milestone, is it?
02:00:40 <gammafunk> .gfgtr x=gid
02:00:41 <Sequell> 52. [game_key=Phindah:cao:20170428032756S] Phindah the Cleaver (L9 MiBe of Trog), blasted by an ogre mage (bolt of poison) on D:8 (gammafunk_sealed_library) on 2017-05-28 04:10:19, with 2657 points after 6390 turns and 0:35:39.
02:00:42 <geekosaur> no, but all the elements needed to generate the filename are
02:00:57 <gammafunk> well the ttyrec filenames are based on the when the recording began
02:01:09 <geekosaur> except the sequence number which can be just append .1 and load, append .2 and load ... until .N fails to load
02:01:25 <gammafunk> !lg . cbro -ttyrec
02:01:26 <Sequell> 53. gammafunk, XL18 TeAK, T:75585: http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/ttyrec/gammafunk/ 2017-05-04.06:14:26.ttyrec.bz2 2017-05-09.01:49:34.ttyrec.bz2 2017-05-14.00:38:38.ttyrec.bz2 2017-05-20.02:00:16.ttyrec.bz2 2017-05-20.02:30:23.ttyrec.bz2 2017-05-21.02:00:58.ttyrec.bz2 2017-05-21.06:01:53.ttyrec.bz2 2017-05-21.06:48:51.ttyrec.bz2
02:01:31 <geekosaur> which should be the start time for the game, which it can get by looking up the start milestone for that gid
02:01:53 <geekosaur> oh ok, I thouyght I saw it using sequential numbers
02:02:02 <gammafunk> those filenames aren't based on the start time of the game, yeah
02:02:15 <geekosaur> but ... you can;t get that from a dir listing
02:03:08 <gammafunk> .gfgtr -ttyrec
02:03:08 <geekosaur> hm, guess you could. I'd be using load milestones (which I think we don;t have) instead of relying on directory listing though, because filesystems make lousy databases
02:03:09 <Sequell> 52. Phindah, XL9 MiBe, T:6390: Can't find ttyrec
02:03:36 <geekosaur> so I guess it could be doing that and this needs rethought
02:04:03 <geekosaur> ...when did I start speaking Pittsburgh again?
02:10:44 <Jorgrell> Stable (0.20) branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.20.0-7-g3b7b877
02:20:50 <Jorgrell> Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.21-a0-38-g95c5c02 (34)
02:33:44 <Henzell> Stable (0.20) branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.20.0-7-g3b7b877
02:33:48 <ProzacElf> is it intended that you can target rpois enemies with poisonous vapours?
02:43:29 <gammafunk> Napkin: ping on whether you'll have time to add 0.20 to CDO soon; tourney is ongoing
02:43:30 -!- Euph0ria is now known as OICU812
02:53:58 <Gretell> Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.21-a0-38-g95c5c02
03:14:21 <Rotatell> Stable (0.20) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.20.0-7-g3b7b877
03:17:53 <Rotatell> Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.21-a0-38-g95c5c02 (34)
05:48:33 <Kenran> Is CDO going to have a 0.20 version as well, or do they skip it this year?
05:49:14 <gammafunk> I'm sure CDO will get it eventually Kenran, but we're not sure when at this point
07:57:37 <advil> geekosaur: I have that in my dialect too (my mother is from pittsburgh)
08:05:43 <advil> %git 4ab3be238f881065d6d6e7b83da612c0fbf8e50e
08:05:43 <Cheibriados> 07evilmike02 * 0.11-a0-10-g4ab3be2: Various changes to vault-defined feature descriptions. 10(5 years ago, 3 files, 4+ 11-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4ab3be238f88
09:28:15 <|amethyst> gammafunk:  I think footv can wait until after the tournament
09:28:40 <|amethyst> gammafunk:  not much use being able to footv tournament games on CAO when people can't play tournament games on CAO
09:30:55 <advil> what's wrong with CAO now?
09:31:32 <|amethyst> advil:  I disabled directory listings under /rawdata/ to make it harder to crawl
09:31:48 <advil> oh and that breaks footv
09:31:56 <|amethyst> apparently
09:32:13 <advil> oh I see, you mean that if you reenabled that people wouldn't be able to play t games because it would be getting DOS'd
09:32:18 <|amethyst> yeah
09:32:40 <|amethyst> even after blocking all published Tor exit points, it happened again
09:32:45 <advil> yeah I saw that
09:32:53 <advil> I really do not understand
09:34:09 <advil> what the point of whatever they're doing is...maybe just some script that is mechanically searching for vulnerabilities on a lot of servers, I guess
09:34:34 <|amethyst> or they don't want people to play on CAO?
09:34:46 <advil> heh
09:34:50 <|amethyst> or they did it accidentally the first time, then got pissed off because they were stopped
09:36:07 <advil> I wonder if there's some way to tune cao or add caching so that that particular issue isn't an issue
09:36:23 <advil> even with as many directories as we have, you'd think it still wouldn't take up too much space to just cache them all
10:01:30 <Cheibriados> Double Josephine 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=11077 by nubinia
10:24:22 <Floodkiller> side effect of disintegration no longer blowing up walls: it's even easier than normal to cheese orb spiders
11:01:19 -!- jefus- is now known as jefus
11:51:31 <Doesnty> petrified things can move around while you are off-level
11:51:42 <Doesnty> even if they weren't given enough time to stop being a statue
13:04:46 <Henzell> Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.21-a0-38-g95c5c02 (34)
13:07:32 <gammafunk> =nemelex VSEE
13:07:35 <Sequell> Defined keyword: nchoice => DEAM|DDAK|HOCj|BaEn|FoEn|MiVM|HaIE|VSEE
13:28:15 <minmay> is there any practical way to make reflection kills grant xp and piety, without letting them violate god conducts
13:28:55 <minmay> i get that it was changed so it doesn't anger tso/okawaru/etc when it manages to hit an ally/distracted monster or reflect a poison projectile (rip) but losing xp because i'm wearing reflection feels awful
13:29:46 <advil> hmm probably but reflection logic is a bit complicated
13:29:59 <advil> (I'm also playing a reflection char right now and "awful" is maybe a bit strong :)
13:33:23 <minmay> so am I
13:34:32 <minmay> I would prefer to wear nothing if not for the fact that the amulet has randart properties
15:02:10 <Cheibriados> Turncount displayed in GUI is lower than actual turncount 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=11078 by Crorem
15:04:03 <Lantell> Stable (0.20) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.20.0-7-g3b7b877
15:21:37 <minmay> so if a monster dies from your friendly water elemental's drowning damage, you don't get piety
15:25:52 -!- GiantOwl is now known as Kalir
16:56:30 <ProzacElf> the ossuary where
16:56:35 <ProzacElf> er
16:57:10 <ProzacElf> the ossuary that used to be "hey, free nets!" is basically just bad now
16:58:07 <ProzacElf> i guess it might have taken more time to get 200 gold without that portal
17:37:45 <Lasty> minmay: So I finally used Ignition. And I love it.
17:37:59 <Lasty> Best new spell in a while IMO
18:04:17 <Lantell> Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.21-a0-38-g95c5c02 (34)
18:16:37 <minmay> thanks?
18:17:08 <minmay> i can't really take that much credit for it since it's just a slight variation on the rod
18:42:05 <gammafunk> !kw nchoice
18:42:06 <Sequell> Keyword: nchoice => DEAM|DDAK|HOCj|BaEn|FoEn|MiVM|HaIE|VSEE
18:42:12 <gammafunk> =nemelex FeNe
18:42:15 <Sequell> Defined keyword: nchoice => DEAM|DDAK|HOCj|BaEn|FoEn|MiVM|HaIE|VSEE|FeNe
18:46:14 <Lasty> minmay: Well, changing it to hit everything in AOE is a change. But still, it ends up being an entertaining spell.
18:48:42 <cut1less> uh, is this vault supposed to have a random pointless runed door *inside* of it, rather than the door locking the vault?
18:48:44 <cut1less> http://i.imgur.com/QGXFIdD.png
18:51:24 <gammafunk> minmay: that looks like yours
19:34:41 <gammafunk> !cmd .gftr
19:34:41 <Sequell> Command: .gftr => !lg * kmap~~temple_of_torment|overflow_arena|the_bubble|sealed_library|sealed_arena|wand_slinger|steamed_eel|jiyva_shrine|beogh_shrine|corrupted_shrine|its_a_trap $*
19:38:08 <gammafunk> !cmd .gftr !lg * title:"Transporter vault kills" kmap~~temple_of_torment|overflow_arena|the_bubble|sealed_library|sealed_arena|wand_slinger|steamed_eel|jiyva_shrine|beogh_shrine|corrupted_shrine|its_a_trap|dig_for_victory $*
19:38:08 <Sequell> Redefined command: .gftr => !lg * title:"Transporter vault kills" kmap~~temple_of_torment|overflow_arena|the_bubble|sealed_library|sealed_arena|wand_slinger|steamed_eel|jiyva_shrine|beogh_shrine|corrupted_shrine|its_a_trap|dig_for_victory $*
19:50:26 <alexjurkiewicz> .gftr
19:50:27 <Sequell> 349. ystael the Spear-Bearer (L10 MiGl of Makhleb), slain by a slime creature on D:9 (gammafunk_jiyva_shrine) on 2017-05-28 22:01:17, with 5461 points after 9717 turns and 0:20:47.
19:50:52 <alexjurkiewicz> transporters are definitely the release highlight
19:56:11 <gammafunk> alexjurkiewicz: we're trying to queue up a cpo ttyrec
19:56:16 <gammafunk> for some reason it just sat there loading
19:56:21 <gammafunk> the url downloads directly just fine
19:56:34 <gammafunk> is there anything on your end that might prevent the shallott server from fetching it?
20:09:33 <minmay> cut1less: that's a heavily randomized vault made out of lots of tiles; there are versions with walls between the tiles and without. You got one without, and also got a tile that has a runed door
20:10:23 <minmay> cut1less: the runed door does open to an enclosed room in the version with walls between the tiles. It's intentional that some of the runed doors become a lot less useful in the versions without walls between the tiles, as you saw
20:14:00 <minmay> !tell Lasty i got a +9 shortbow with *Contam on d:5 so now i have to throw stones at e.g. ball pythons to kill them without wasting ammo
20:14:00 <Sequell> minmay: OK, I'll let lasty know.
20:15:06 <Lasty> minmay: yep, ranged is awful right now.
20:15:06 <Sequell> Lasty: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it.
20:17:09 -!- wheals_ is now known as wheals
20:18:27 <minmay> _The bullfrog snags a nearby small bird with its tongue.
20:18:36 <minmay> so is it canon that there are just...birds roaming around the dungeon
20:19:52 <gammafunk> sure
20:21:15 <|amethyst> or, in crawl taxonomy, flies are really small birds
20:21:24 <|amethyst> it makes as much sense as the 't' glyph
20:21:48 <geekosaur> makes as much sense as shoals does
20:21:52 <minmay> butterflies and shrikes are on the same glyph I guess
20:22:33 <geekosaur> it's a magical dungeon, don't ask silly questions or you might find the answer when the insane wizard that came up with it shows up to eat you
20:24:06 <minmay> geekosaur: orc wizard -> ore wizard -> vore wizard, it all makes sense now
20:43:31 <cut1less> minmay: ah, i see. makes more sense, i guess, just very bizarre to see
20:44:40 <gammafunk> new terrain type?
20:44:46 <gammafunk> spooky tiles
20:44:50 <gammafunk> monsters don't want to cross them
20:51:27 <minmay> cut1less: yeah, it'd be nice to remove the runed door in the non-bordered vaults, but unfortunately substitution like that in subvaults is very difficult to do
21:00:55 -!- GiantOwl is now known as Kalir
21:11:50 <minmay> seems the warning for the other side of a staircase being excluded no longer works
21:20:44 -!- bcadren is now known as VhfGood
21:31:29 <gammafunk> ^status
21:31:29 <Rotatell> 100 Crawlers. CBRO disk usage=87% (135GB) | RAM usage=72% (4GB)| uptime/CPU= 21:31:28 up 87 days,  2:09, 12 users,  load average: 4.42, 3.65, 3.31 (4 Cores) http://status.berotato.org
23:59:34 <Eksell> Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.21-a0-38-g95c5c02 (34)