00:01:00 <Eksell> Stable (0.20) branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.20-b1-24-gb21faa7
00:10:36 -!- kogasa is now known as Doesnty
00:18:03 <Cheibriados> Webtiles players do not recieve "m"essages from console spectators 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=11074 by nikheizen
00:35:12 <alexjurkiewicz> pfft, messages from console
00:49:09 <alexjurkiewicz> felid sacrificing hand should lose a level of fast
00:54:21 <koboldina> aren't felids miserable enough already tho
01:27:13 <alexjurkiewicz> they can never be too punishing
01:27:49 <minmay> alexjurkiewicz: cats trot, so I don't think losing a front paw would have a big effect on their speed after they got used to it
01:28:22 <minmay> I imagine a human losing a hand would lose nearly as much speed
02:48:34 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 {gammafunk} 07[stone_soup-0.20] * 0.20-b1-25-g42ff7ee: Add a changelog entry for best_effort_brighten_foreground 10(4 hours ago, 1 file, 5+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/42ff7ee87f08
02:48:34 <Cheibriados> 03gammafunk02 07[stone_soup-0.20] * 0.20-b1-26-g8729b15: Final 0.20 changelog 10(21 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8729b15a00de
02:48:34 <Cheibriados> 03gammafunk02 07[stone_soup-0.20] * 0.20-b1-27-g35d9944: Update the Debian changelog for 0.20 10(18 minutes ago, 1 file, 25+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/35d994404934
02:49:05 <gammafunk> %git 0.20.0
02:49:05 <Cheibriados> 07gammafunk02 * 0.20.0: Update the Debian changelog for 0.20 10(19 minutes ago, 1 file, 25+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/35d994404934
02:53:09 <Cheibriados> 03gammafunk02 07* 0.21-a0-27-gea9004e: Final 0.20 changelog 10(26 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ea9004e51e39
02:53:09 <Cheibriados> 03gammafunk02 07* 0.21-a0-28-g9a7844a: Update the Debian changelog for 0.20 10(23 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9a7844af832f
03:10:18 <Jorgrell> Stable (0.20) branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.20.0-0-g35d9944
03:13:07 <Rotatell> Stable (0.20) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.20.0-0-g35d9944
03:16:47 <Rotatell> Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.21-a0-28-g9a7844a (34)
03:19:12 <Henzell> fanggot (L3 DsCK) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 207: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:2)
03:19:56 <Jorgrell> Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.21-a0-28-g9a7844a (34)
03:20:46 <Henzell> horredgrones (L27 HECj) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 216: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (Pan)
03:20:50 <gammafunk> hrm, is that a problem with CAO fetching again?
03:21:00 <gammafunk> er people recursing the web dir
03:31:05 <Henzell> CALLOUS (L9 KoMo) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 205: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:8)
03:33:16 <Henzell> zog (L10 OpCj)  (D:7)
03:34:55 <gammafunk> CAO is having a bad time again
03:36:10 <nikheizen> glad i finished my game before this happened
05:29:47 <nikheizen> is the tourney page going to be wiped soon?
06:06:33 <gammafunk> sure
06:06:39 <gammafunk> but it's not harming anything
06:06:59 <gammafunk> and I will probably run more updates on it tomorrow
06:07:03 <gammafunk> we need to get cue/cwz in
06:07:09 <gammafunk> in fact I haven't heard anything about cwz
06:07:17 <gammafunk> I need to get this post out
08:29:15 <gammafunk> http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/crawl-0-20-scarf-our-wanderful-fried-frogs
08:32:50 <gammafunk> advil: not sure if you've made os x builds yet, but whenever you're ready, feel free. Once you give me URLs for the zips, I can put them on CDO and link.
08:58:40 -!- masterinire is now known as inire
09:12:07 <advil> building now
09:12:38 <advil> I've met 3-legged cats before and they're not really much less agile/fast ime
09:18:59 <gammafunk> wow, you've met felids of Ru in real life?
09:24:19 <advil> heh yeah most recently my girlfriend's coworker has a tripod cat, it kills all the small animals
09:24:21 <advil> man, my test char for one of the builds just found D:1 +2 boots of running
09:24:39 <advil> and d1 +2 gloves
09:25:24 <advil> ok those were d2
09:32:23 <nikheizen> every time you make a test or wizmode char the most amazing stuff gets generated
09:44:48 <advil> gammafunk: mac builds are in https://www.dropbox.com/sh/mjk2xoklkhmyg2n/AAAfljuzOz4nC3-wYZ4qdZMEa?dl=0
09:44:52 <advil> unsigned as usual
09:44:58 <advil> if anyone else wants to test them, go for it
09:58:13 <shmup> advil++
10:00:02 <gammafunk> advil: uploaded and download page updated, thanks
12:52:41 <Henzell> BeardTony (L9 SpEn) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 207: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:6)
12:52:41 <Henzell> vermifax (L3 KoHu) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 205: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:1)
12:52:42 <Henzell> beuller (L2 TrBe) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 205: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:1)
12:52:44 <Henzell> dracony (L9 GrEE) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 207: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:8)
12:54:25 <Henzell> beuller (L1 TrBe)  (D:1)
12:57:44 <Henzell> dracony (L9 GrEE) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 207: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:8)
12:57:59 <advil> hm
12:58:09 <advil> hope whatever that is stops before tournament
13:11:23 <Henzell> dracony (L9 GrEE) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 207: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:8)
13:15:08 <Henzell> Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.21-a0-28-g9a7844a (34)
13:35:41 <Henzell> whales2 (L5 DEFE)  (Sewer)
13:53:03 <amalloy> finally, the console-only tournament we elitists have dreamed of
13:53:23 <Henzell> fly (L4 KoAs) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 207: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:2)
14:01:13 <amalloy> hm. apparently tileweb.cc sends messages out over some number of unix domain sockets, and one of them has become unresponsive but not disconnected
14:02:04 <Henzell> Elnono (L12 CeGl)  (Lair:6)
14:02:47 <amalloy> that's what my reading of TilesFramework::finish_message makes me think, anyway. there is retry code in there that looks fairly generous, so if we get far enough to crash then the socket must be in pretty sad shape. but i don't know what the sockets are used for (talking to the webserver, i suppose?), or how important it is that one of them is dead
14:03:02 <Henzell> asciimoo (L22 DsGl)  (Depths:3)
14:25:17 <geekosaur> the sockets communicate information to (a) connected clients, including viewers (b) whatever manages the lobby web display (c) tileschat
14:25:21 <geekosaur> (c) is I suppose part of (a)
14:27:43 <geekosaur> (not the websockets of visitors to the lobby though, those only communicate with whatever (b) is not actual games in progress)
14:28:25 <geekosaur> but that does suggest, load up cao's lobby and see if it updates. if not then (b) is the culprit. if it does update then there's likely a stuck game somewhere
14:30:09 <geekosaur> ...sorry, I can;t do that without trying to play ugly routing games, local notwork recycles NAT slots too quickly and I silently lose the lobby websocket if I can even load the lobby at all
14:32:19 <amalloy> does that mean that a spectator with a badly-behaved client/network can crash a game?
14:32:27 <amalloy> since they are a client
14:32:53 <geekosaur> potentially yes
14:33:15 <geekosaur> it's a client like the one actually playing, it's just restricted to read-only access
14:33:23 <amalloy> right, that's what i thought
14:33:55 <amalloy> lobby updates, so that's not the problem
14:34:02 <geekosaur> ...and it would be interesting to see --- not on one of the public servers! --- how the tiles message code would deal with a slowloris attack
14:34:51 <geekosaur> well, modified slowloris since viewers don't get to send things, but.
14:35:22 <johnstein> I'll try to log into cao tonight to check out stuff but I'm not confident I'll find anything to fix
14:35:31 <shmup> https://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/documentation   the manual link 404'd at some point
14:42:40 <geekosaur> btw I would consider it reasonable if, provided finish_message can tell which socket is the r/w client, it considers the others best-effort delivery, that is it does not perform retries with them
14:43:45 <geekosaur> it's less than ideal for spectators, but sockets already do retries; if you're in a position where you need to retry a write because the socket buffer is full, that connected client is already in trouble and dropping stuff is reasonable
14:47:15 <geekosaur> (similar argument suggests that if this happens on the r/w, you should consider it to have disconnected)
14:50:17 <advil> |amethyst (iirc) seemed to think it was someone hitting the web server (user directories) hard with a crawler or something
14:55:22 <geekosaur> if that's causing unrelated socket buffers to fill up then either the kernel is mistuned or they're hitting it hard enough to be considered abuse and it should be blocked
15:01:17 <minmay> I like the first 0.20 wordpress comment
15:01:21 <minmay> "What’s the point of noise scrolls now?"
16:09:07 <Henzell> GoblinBomb (L7 KoBe) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 207: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:4)
16:10:15 <Henzell> thrig (L2 MuWn) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 207: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:2)
16:12:28 <Henzell> wafflepants (L8 DEAE) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 207: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:5)
16:12:28 <Henzell> sabu (L23 CeHu) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 205: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (Vaults:1)
16:15:14 <Henzell> BeardTony (L15 SpEn) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 207: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:13)
16:19:38 <Henzell> sabu (L23 CeHu) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 205: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (Vaults:1)
16:20:43 <Henzell> dracony (L9 GrEE)  (D:8)
16:21:47 <Henzell> Maleous (L1 HONe) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 207: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:1)
16:27:34 <advil> yeah, if this is associated with a single ip address then that seems like an address that should be blocked
16:28:46 <advil> though I agree that this is a weird result from just heavy cpu
16:30:07 <Henzell> GoblinBomb (L1 FoFi) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 205: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:1)
16:30:08 <advil> hmm it does seem like that error can result from just a timeout
16:30:11 <Henzell> dracony (L9 GrEE) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 207: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:8)
16:30:50 <Henzell> sabu (L23 CeHu) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 205: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (Vaults:1)
16:34:05 <|amethyst> IP blocked
16:35:13 <johnstein> so it was just one IP?
16:35:14 <|amethyst> was getting something like 200 requests per second
16:35:27 <|amethyst> yeah, from one IP doing a wget mirror of /rawdata (all the morgues)
16:35:36 <|amethyst> which is 512 GB on disk
16:35:41 <geekosaur> yug
16:36:02 <advil> ouch
16:36:11 <advil> they could at least throttle it, wget has that setting
16:36:31 <|amethyst> I wonder if it's the same person who was doing stats based on analyzing morgues on reddit
16:36:53 <advil> hmm maybe
16:37:16 <|amethyst> I didn't notice this before when they were doing that, though, so maybe they were more selective and/or throttled in the past
16:37:17 <advil> I sort of expect it wasn't intended to be malicious
16:37:37 <advil> why is that so high cpu?  because of lots of small directories?
16:38:01 <|amethyst> it was high CPU when it was hitting directories, because of apache generating the directory listings
16:38:09 <advil> ah
16:38:17 <|amethyst> lately it was hitting actual files, so wasn't using so much CPU
16:38:32 <|amethyst> but still using other resources
16:39:32 <|amethyst> hm, load average 3 now
16:39:48 <|amethyst> there are two crawl processes sitting at 100% CPU but probably not doing anything
16:40:47 <|amethyst> okay, those are killed too, load should be dropping back to 1 or so soon
16:41:56 <|amethyst> hm, I guess I could add a robots.txt
16:42:08 <|amethyst> oh wait
16:42:13 <|amethyst> Disallow: /rawdata
16:42:26 <|amethyst> I was sure wget -r by default respects robots.txt
16:42:57 <advil> you can override that
16:43:01 <|amethyst> yea
16:43:34 <|amethyst> but if you do, you know you're doing something wrong
16:51:25 <advil> man rawdata takes forever to load
16:51:36 <advil> I posted something here, basically in case it is that guy https://www.reddit.com/r/roguelikes/comments/6d508c/troubles_with_dcss_on_cao/di1jfnu/
16:51:44 <advil> since he reads reddit
16:53:21 <advil> it'll probably never been seen by whoever it is though
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17:55:49 -!- Grammus is now known as Gramm
18:04:14 <Lantell> Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.21-a0-28-g9a7844a (34)
18:06:57 -!- Ge0ff is now known as teamgozag
18:08:52 -!- teamgozag is now known as teamgozag_018
18:10:05 -!- teamgozag_018 is now known as teamgozag_019
18:10:41 -!- teamgozag_019 is now known as Ge0ff
18:27:04 -!- Ge0ff is now known as teamgozag_018
18:27:26 -!- teamgozag_018 is now known as teamgozag_019
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18:28:25 -!- Ge0ff is now known as teamgozag
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18:30:26 <gammafunk> ??objstat[2
18:30:26 <Sequell> objstat[2/2]: Spreadsheets for all releases & trunk 0.20-a0-513-g02c11fc: https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B7VXhHzhWWb7S282VWhLVWRXbG8&usp=sharing ; See the README for details: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1D5mFqVi8ghz_nzvVmDUc3unx8VanVBWfgvZ8xCHaiJo/edit?usp=sharing
18:31:02 <gammafunk> !learn edit ojbstat[2] s/ &[^:]+//
18:31:02 <Sequell> I don't have a page labeled ojbstat[2] in my learndb.
18:31:15 <gammafunk> !learn edit objstat[2] s/ &[^:]+//
18:31:15 <Sequell> objstat[2/2]: Spreadsheets for all releases: https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B7VXhHzhWWb7S282VWhLVWRXbG8&usp=sharing ; See the README for details: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1D5mFqVi8ghz_nzvVmDUc3unx8VanVBWfgvZ8xCHaiJo/edit?usp=sharing
18:38:41 <Lightli> !time
18:38:42 <Sequell> Time: May 25, 2017, 10:38:41 PM, UTC. The 2017 0.20 tournament starts in 21 hours, 21 minutes and 18 seconds.
18:54:42 <ZiBuDo> !messages
18:54:43 <Sequell> No messages for ZiBuDo.
19:05:35 <Henzell> Gobu (L27 MiFi) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 205: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (Dis:1)
19:05:37 <Henzell> Blackmore (L7 SpAs) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 207: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:4)
19:05:38 <Henzell> jorn (L7 CeFi) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 207: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:4)
19:05:39 <Henzell> Deirdre (L27 NaTm) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 207: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (Slime:5)
19:06:10 <amalloy> |amethyst: ip block not sufficient?
19:06:47 <gammafunk> right now dobrazupa is also fetching rcfiles from CAO, but not in any recursive way, and it shouldn't cause problems
19:07:03 <gammafunk> !seen tzer0
19:07:03 <Sequell> I last saw TZer0 at Tue May 23 09:33:23 2017 UTC (2d 13h 33m 40s ago) saying '!tell gammafunk I've been sick, I'll get to it soon.' on ##crawl-dev.
19:07:39 <gammafunk> hopefully tzer0 feels better and is well enough to get cue updated in time
19:08:16 <Henzell> magenar (L11 VSFi) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 207: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (Lair:1)
19:12:43 <Cheibriados> Trog altar vault has impervious iron grates 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=11075 by deathblob
19:28:47 <Henzell> qtip2 (L17 DDFi) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 205: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (Vaults:4)
19:28:53 <Henzell> Blackmore (L7 SpAs) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 207: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:4)
19:39:51 <alexjurkiewicz> so many errors
19:41:09 <gammafunk> errors are like special friends that you get to know and love
20:11:44 -!- svendre_ is now known as svendre
20:11:50 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_
20:13:08 <Henzell> Blackmore (L4 SpAs) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 207: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:3)
20:13:17 <Henzell> AlexThePrettyGood (L22 MiFi) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 207: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D (Sprint))
20:15:04 <Henzell> apparatus (L9 DECj)  (D:8)
20:19:00 <ProzacElf> hey, are apostrophes legal in clan names?
20:27:19 <Henzell> apparatus (L9 DECj) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 205: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:9)
20:28:51 <gammafunk> "Clan names must contain only alphanumeric characters, underscores, and hyphens. Underscores will be converted into spaces."
20:28:59 <gammafunk> ProzacElf: from the Clans section of the tournament rules
20:29:30 <ProzacElf> i guess it doesn't qualify as alphanumeric then =p
20:30:08 <gammafunk> neither alphabetic nor numeric
20:33:32 <Henzell> Deirdre (L27 NaTm)  (Abyss:3)
20:34:19 <CanOfWorms> http://i.imgur.com/YwEk0ac.png
20:34:19 <Sequell> CanOfWorms: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it.
20:34:22 <CanOfWorms> 0.20  tourney banner
20:34:23 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy
20:34:57 <gammafunk> cool, thanks
20:38:58 <Henzell> apparatus (L9 DECj) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 205: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:9)
20:43:51 <Cheibriados> 03gammafunk02 07* 0.21-a0-29-g43b3074: Fix and balance a float vault 10(41 minutes ago, 1 file, 10+ 10-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/43b307424c37
20:44:37 <ProzacElf> float vault?
20:46:54 <minmay> i have a suggestion for a spriggan rider replacement https://68.media.tumblr.com/502ff0c6c074103ad76f90091414105a/tumblr_mmphj5Vc6F1qf47bgo1_400.gif
20:47:56 -!- Anothervack is now known as Avack
20:48:09 -!- svendre_ is now known as svendre
20:51:13 <Cheibriados> 03gammafunk02 07[stone_soup-0.20] * 0.20.0-1-g1cb1d84: Fix and balance a float vault 10(48 minutes ago, 1 file, 10+ 10-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1cb1d84eb541
21:06:52 -!- svendre_ is now known as svendre
21:09:37 <Jorgrell> Stable (0.20) branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.20.0-1-g1cb1d84
21:18:57 <Jorgrell> Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.21-a0-29-g43b3074 (34)
21:19:46 <gammafunk> Napkin: Are you going to be able to have 0.20 installed on CDO before the tournament tomorrow, by any chance?
21:20:18 <gammafunk> !time
21:20:18 <Sequell> Time: May 26, 2017, 01:20:18 AM, UTC. The 2017 0.20 tournament starts in 18 hours, 39 minutes and 41 seconds.
21:22:59 <johnstein> I suppose I need to try getting admin access to cdo too :p
21:26:23 <gammafunk> heh, yeah
21:26:35 <gammafunk> I have a crawl login I use for website/repo stuff
21:26:50 <gammafunk> just heard from hong that cwz is up, which is great
21:27:11 <gammafunk> I was literally in the middle of composing an email asking kimnosuk if he know how to contact hong
21:27:14 <gammafunk> *knew
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21:46:47 <johnstein> I've only been partially following the cao news. |amethyst blocked the IP but looks like the sockets issue is still happening?
21:50:25 <gammafunk> yeah, seems to be sporatic
21:50:29 <gammafunk> not happening right now
21:54:24 <alexjurkiewicz> if someone would like to give me accss, I'd be happy to set up some rate limiting in apache
21:56:22 -!- svendre_ is now known as svendre
22:07:03 <gammafunk> johnstein: do you have the ability to add 0.20 to the CAO scoring pages?
22:07:45 <johnstein> I don't know!
22:07:45 <johnstein> I think I have sudo access
22:08:24 <gammafunk> I'm sure that's enough, but I don't know how sources are added to that
22:08:35 <johnstein> is there a repo?
22:08:58 <gammafunk> I guess fixing any issues with CAO webtiles is the bigger problem
22:12:15 <gammafunk> elliptic: I have two questions, the first is for the tournament rules for species/background/god wins, do you see any problem with requiring a win for the god (like how we do for gozag/xom) instead of reaching champion in order to get points?
22:12:43 <gammafunk> Players have complained about having to go out of their way to ensure that even in a game they win
22:13:08 <gammafunk> It would leave those general points for getting to 6*, which also requires the player to go out of their way
22:13:10 <elliptic> well, the current system is set up so that players can change gods if they want and still get points
22:13:32 <gammafunk> yeah, that's a drawback I guess
22:14:19 <elliptic> I think there would be more complaints about that than there currently are about having to make sure they get 6*
22:14:26 <elliptic> but certainly neither way is perfect
22:15:00 <gammafunk> that probably is the case, and it's a new inconsistency since we'd still have to award the general god points the old way
22:15:11 <gammafunk> so they still have to remember to get 6* for those
22:15:28 <minmay> require 5* instead of 6* obviously
22:15:42 <gammafunk> that thought occured to me!
22:15:53 <gammafunk> elliptic: second question is are you playing/making a team this tournament, because I need a team
22:16:16 <minmay> gammafunk: we might need a new sixth member on tolkien minorities
22:16:35 <elliptic> gammafunk: one or both of the two types of god points could be removed, of course
22:17:16 <elliptic> gammafunk: I'm currently not planning to play myself this tourney
22:17:17 <gammafunk> yeah, we could remove the general points I guess
22:17:34 <gammafunk> ok, good to know, thanks
22:17:39 <elliptic> I'll work on qw a little bit but humans are not permitted on qw's team :P
22:18:58 <elliptic> ??t
22:18:59 <Sequell> tournament[1/7]: The 0.20 tournament will run from 20:00 UTC Friday 26 May 2017 to 20:00 UTC Sunday 11 June 2017. Tournament home page: http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.20/
22:20:11 <elliptic> are there any new species/backgrounds/gods in 0.20 or was everything disabled for release?
22:20:43 <elliptic> oh, right, frogs
22:21:14 <gammafunk> frogs, yeah
22:22:12 <elliptic> gammafunk: if you haven't already, there are a couple things in tourney scripts that need updating for a new species
22:22:40 <gammafunk> oh, I might have missed those
22:23:25 <gammafunk> I've updated playable combos
22:23:37 <gammafunk> and nem eligable combos
22:23:49 <elliptic> I guess it is just playable combos and the species wins formula should be 2*(54+T)/(2+S) instead of 2*(52+T)/(2+S)
22:23:56 <gammafunk> right
22:24:35 <elliptic> so if you did the first then the second is just changing a single number from 52 to 54 somewhere
22:24:44 <gammafunk> oh, well we removed high elves
22:24:48 <elliptic> oh
22:24:48 <gammafunk> so isn't it the same actually
22:24:50 <elliptic> yes
22:24:55 <gammafunk> ok
22:25:23 <gammafunk> won a HESu and didn't even realise high elves were gone...
22:25:51 <gammafunk> Do I still want to wipe the database and recreate it after the clan freeze date?
22:26:21 <elliptic> I blame the release post for not listing high elf removal as a highlight :P
22:27:38 <elliptic> gammafunk: actually you want to avoid wiping/recreating the database after clan freeze date if possible
22:28:10 <elliptic> since then you need to modify the clan freeze date temporarily so that it will reload the clan info
22:28:39 <gammafunk> ah, right I always forget that you'd do this before, not after the freeze
22:29:42 <elliptic> it's possible to wipe/recreate the database after of course if something comes up (and it is important to turn the rcfile fetch cronjobs off after the freeze so that we save an accurate snapshot of clan listings)
22:30:22 <elliptic> but yeah, to fix capitalization in player names you usually want to wipe/recreate the database sometime midway through the first week
22:42:01 -!- Pacra__ is now known as Pacra
22:48:15 <gammafunk> !fn version_fixup
22:48:15 <Sequell> !fn version_fixup (v) (if (match a $v) git (join . (sub 0 2 (split . $v))))
22:49:51 <gammafunk> !fn version_fixup (v) (if (match a $v) git $v)
22:49:52 <Sequell> Redefined function: !fn version_fixup (v) (if (match a $v) git $v) (was: !fn version_fixup (v) (if (match a $v) git (join . (sub 0 2 (split . $v)))))
22:50:04 <gammafunk> &rc yermak 0.20 cxc
22:50:06 <Sequell> http://CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM/crawl/rcfiles/crawl-0.2/Yermak.rc
22:50:26 <gammafunk> !echo 0.20
22:50:26 <Sequell> 0.20
22:50:50 <gammafunk> !echo (version_fixup 0.20)
22:50:50 <Sequell> (version_fixup 0.20)
22:50:55 <gammafunk> !echo $(version_fixup 0.20)
22:50:55 <Sequell> 0.2
22:51:07 <gammafunk> !echo $(str (version_fixup 0.20))
22:51:08 <Sequell> 0.2
22:51:34 <gammafunk> !fn version_fixup (v) (if (match a $v) git (str $v))
22:51:35 <Sequell> Redefined function: !fn version_fixup (v) (if (match a $v) git (str $v)) (was: !fn version_fixup (v) (if (match a $v) git $v))
22:51:38 <gammafunk> !echo $(version_fixup 0.20))
22:51:39 <Sequell> 0.2)
22:52:04 <gammafunk> !fn version_fixup (v) (if (match a $v) git $(str $v))
22:52:05 <Sequell> Redefined function: !fn version_fixup (v) (if (match a $v) git $(str $v)) (was: !fn version_fixup (v) (if (match a $v) git (str $v)))
22:52:07 <gammafunk> !echo $(version_fixup 0.20))
22:52:07 <Sequell> 0.2)
22:52:23 <gammafunk> !fn version_fixup (v) (if (match a $v) git $v)
22:52:24 <Sequell> Redefined function: !fn version_fixup (v) (if (match a $v) git $v) (was: !fn version_fixup (v) (if (match a $v) git $(str $v)))
22:52:32 <gammafunk> some kind of weird issue with sequell functions?
22:55:16 <elliptic> &rc yermak "0.20" cxc
22:55:17 <Sequell> Subcommand $(=rc.helper yermak "0.20" cxc) failed: Broken query near '") (=bot_prefix cxc))rc ${name} $(version_fixup "0.20")" stub:"No milestones for yermak."'
22:55:37 <elliptic> yeah, probably need to special-case 0.20 in version_fixup?
22:55:56 <gammafunk> presumably 0.10 has the same issue
22:56:04 <elliptic> I'll try something in ##crawl-sequell
22:56:04 <gammafunk> &rc yermak 0.10 cxc
22:56:05 <elliptic> yes
22:56:06 <Sequell> http://CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM/crawl/rcfiles/crawl-0.1/Yermak.rc
22:58:58 <elliptic> well, I added a hack for 0.20
22:59:21 <elliptic> it won't handle 0.2 correctly now but that's okay
22:59:45 <alexjurkiewicz> is there a timeline of release dates for dcss?
23:00:03 <alexjurkiewicz> the repo tags are inaccurate when you go back far enough, since they were added in 2009 with the repo migration (I guess)
23:00:19 <alexjurkiewicz> wondering approximately when 0.1 came out
23:00:48 <alexjurkiewicz> oh hey.. should the player survey close soon?
23:00:53 <alexjurkiewicz> I'm worried people will start to fill it in twice
23:01:51 <gammafunk> alexjurkiewicz: you could look at the dates in the changelog I guess?
23:02:16 <alexjurkiewicz> good idea: Stone Soup 0.1 (20060918)
23:02:18 <elliptic> &rc yermak '0.2' cxc
23:02:20 <Sequell> http://CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM/crawl/rcfiles/crawl-0.2/Yermak.rc
23:02:28 <elliptic> &rc yermak '0.10' cxc
23:02:30 <Sequell> http://CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM/crawl/rcfiles/crawl-0.10/Yermak.rc
23:02:45 <alexjurkiewicz> I'd love to see dcss change version to 1.0 at some point
23:03:04 <alexjurkiewicz> a non-0.x version scheme, I guess
23:03:15 <elliptic> gammafunk: for reference, using single quotes would have worked without the hack (but I'll leave the hack in since remembering single quotes would be annoying)
23:03:27 <gammafunk> yeah, good enough, thanks
23:29:21 -!- svendre_ is now known as svendre
23:35:15 <gammafunk> !tell Brannock What do you think about extending cloud immunity ego to also make the player immune to impact effects from cloud breath spells?
23:35:16 <Sequell> gammafunk: OK, I'll let brannock know.
23:42:23 <gammafunk> !nick www
23:42:24 <Sequell> Mapping www => (t0.18) amalloy gammafunk ontoclasm pleasingfungus wheals
23:49:25 <johnstein> is it safe to assume that if a crawl-0.20 game is taking up 100% CPU and is a game by player Elbereth, but there's no current game for that player, that it's probably a good idea to kill that process?
23:49:27 <johnstein> on cao
23:49:31 <johnstein> !lg elbereth
23:49:32 <Sequell> 1883. Elbereth the Digger (L2 GrEE), slain by Natasha on D:2 on 2017-05-25 22:56:36, with 11 points after 713 turns and 0:02:19.
23:49:40 <johnstein> !lm elbereth
23:49:46 <Sequell> 10237. [2017-05-25 23:13:11] Elbereth the Digger (L4 DEEE) killed Robin on turn 2155. (D:3)
23:50:00 <johnstein> !crash elbereht
23:50:00 <Sequell> No milestones for elbereht (crash).
23:50:03 <johnstein> !crash elbereth
23:50:04 <Sequell> 3. Elbereth, XL4 DEEE, T:1635 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/Elbereth/crash-Elbereth-20170525-230526.txt
23:54:25 -!- Chish is now known as Chish|afk
23:59:27 <Eksell> Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.21-a0-29-g43b3074 (34)