00:10:57 -!- hyperfazisi is now known as hyperfaz 00:25:22 -!- QuinnR_ is now known as QuinnR 01:44:53 whose job is it to set up !time 01:46:22 !cmd time 01:46:22 Built-in: !time => https://github.com/crawl/sequell/blob/master/commands/xtime.py 01:46:25 !time 01:46:25 Time: May 22, 2017, 05:46:24 AM, UTC. 01:46:31 oh that's based on the sequell 01:46:35 I need to email snark about it 01:46:41 I was waiting a bit until we have more servers 01:46:47 but I should probably at least send the email tonight 01:47:57 I should have known... 01:47:59 (thanks gamma ) 02:17:25 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 02:45:36 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.21-a0-2-ge494091 03:14:57 !lg * 0.20 cpo 03:14:58 No games for * (0.20 cpo). 03:15:48 ??bots 03:15:48 bots[1/3]: Bots that can be pm'd: announcement bots: Henzell (CAO, !), Gretell (CDO, @), Lantell (CUE, $), Rotatell (CBRO, ^), Eksell (CXC, |), Jorgrell (CJR, =); others: Varmin, Cheibriados (%), and Sequell (! ?? & and others) 03:16:21 !lg * 0.20 s=src 03:16:22 No games for * (0.20). 03:16:27 ! 03:16:42 !lg cbrotest x=cv 03:16:43 120. [cv=0.20-a] cbrotest the Skirmisher (L1 HOFi), slain by a hobgoblin on D:1 on 2017-05-21 09:14:17, with 0 points after 159 turns and 0:00:11. 03:17:11 I have 0.20 up, but it's registering as 0.20-a. is that correct? 03:21:05 nope, should be 0.20b1 03:21:21 since when? I got 0.20 updated last night 03:21:38 !lg * 0.20 cbro 03:21:39 No games for * (0.20 cbro). 03:22:30 you sure alexjurkiewicz? it's the same for CXC 03:22:37 !lg . -2 x=cv,v 03:22:38 645/646. [cv=0.20-a;v=0.20.0-b1] Medar the Skirmisher (L1 HOFi), entered wizard mode on D:1 (roderic_dead_forest) on 2017-05-18 11:55:54, with 0 points after 0 turns and 0:00:16. 03:22:59 !lg cbrotest x=cv,v 03:23:00 120. [cv=0.20-a;v=0.20.0-b1] cbrotest the Skirmisher (L1 HOFi), slain by a hobgoblin on D:1 on 2017-05-21 09:14:17, with 0 points after 159 turns and 0:00:11. 03:23:03 CPO is showing vlong=0.20-b1 03:23:05 in the milestones 03:23:12 !lg cbrotest x=file 03:23:13 120. [file=cbro/crawl/meta/0.20/logfile] cbrotest the Skirmisher (L1 HOFi), slain by a hobgoblin on D:1 on 2017-05-21 09:14:17, with 0 points after 159 turns and 0:00:11. 03:23:31 ??rebuild 03:23:31 rebuild[1/2]: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rebuild/ http://underhound.eu:81/rebuild/ http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/rebuild/ http://crawl.xtahua.com/rebuild/ https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/rebuild/ Bug |amethyst or Nap.Kin for CDO. Use your powers wisely. 03:23:49 vlong=0.21-a0-2-ge494091 03:23:56 where does cv come from anyway? 03:24:24 I think it's derived from vlong, or it could be derived from v but I think not for some reason 03:25:03 http://crawl.xtahua.com/crawl/meta/0.20/logfile 03:25:22 !lg lauthentik x=cv,v 03:25:23 1149. [cv=0.20-a;v=0.20.0-b1] lauthentik the Chopper (L7 HOFi of Beogh), slain by a wyvern on D:5 (gammafunk_temple_overflow_arena) on 2017-05-22 07:21:16, with 809 points after 3925 turns and 0:12:39. 03:25:44 I don't even see 0.20-a in the file 03:25:51 oh, perhaps sequell needs to be told that 0.20 is a real version now 03:25:54 or something... 03:26:10 ??sequell 03:26:10 sequell[1/4]: The ##crawl bot, handling game statistics, the {learndb}, and more. Operated by greensnark. See http://github.com/crawl/sequell/blob/master/docs/listgame.md If you want the source, go here: http://github.com/crawl/sequell 03:26:10 !lg * cpo stable 03:26:10 22159. Drake the Conjurer (L3 DECj), slain by Sigmund (a +1 scythe of protection) on D:2 on 2017-05-22 05:04:39, with 64 points after 1852 turns and 0:10:10. 03:26:15 !lg * cpo stable x=cv !0.19 03:26:16 13393. [cv=0.18] ereinion the Conjurer (L8 DrCj of Cheibriados), slain by an orc warrior (a +0 morningstar) (kmap: kennysheep_generic_room_14) on D:7 on 2017-05-10 13:47:36, with 1569 points after 5213 turns and 0:31:57. 03:26:25 guess cpo isn't in Sequell yet 03:28:04 Stable (0.20) branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.20-b1-2-gc5a9893 03:28:13 alexjurkiewicz, https://github.com/crawl/sequell/commit/883bdec5638902898290194112fffc7e282b7a05 03:28:57 !lg * recent s=cv 03:28:59 1704728 games for * (recent): 530317x 0.20-a, 493881x 0.19-a, 362549x 0.19, 310056x 0.18, 7925x 0.21-a 03:29:08 I think it's just supposed to be 0.20-a until the actual release 03:29:15 But not sure 03:29:38 !lg * cv=0.19 s=v 03:29:39 362550 games for * (cv=0.19): 110997x 0.19.0, 104913x 0.19.1, 94548x 0.19.5, 41186x 0.19.4, 10906x 0.19.3 03:30:18 !kw 0.19 03:30:19 Built-in: 0.19 => cv=0.19 03:31:48 !lg * 0.19 1 03:31:58 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 03:32:10 1/362551. Jimmy the Magician (L3 HEWz), slain by Natasha on D:2 on 2016-11-01 04:44:30, with 47 points after 1416 turns and 0:26:41. 03:32:22 !lg * 0.19 1 x=rend 03:32:26 1/362551. [rend=2016-11-01 04:44:30 [20161001044430S]] Jimmy the Magician (L3 HEWz), slain by Natasha on D:2 on 2016-11-01 04:44:30, with 47 points after 1416 turns and 0:26:41. 03:34:01 Medar: cv is a field added by sequell 03:34:18 it has a few different fields it creates in its db that don't come direclty from the xlog fields 03:34:24 *directly 03:35:08 !lg * cpo vlong~~0.20-b 03:35:08 No games for * (cpo vlong~~0.20-b). 03:35:31 !lg * cpo day s=vlong 03:35:32 174 games for * (cpo day): 160x 0.21-a0-2-ge494091, 14x 0.19.1 03:35:40 oh right its logfile isn't in sequell 03:38:02 !lg * cbro vlong~~0.20-b 03:38:03 357. rodbeard the Chucker (L4 OgHu), slain by a leopard gecko (kmap: portal_sewer_entry_f) on D:3 on 2017-05-22 07:25:58, with 77 points after 2052 turns and 0:05:02. 03:54:19 hrm 03:54:25 !lg * cbro vlong~~0.20-b x=file 03:54:26 361. [file=cbro/crawl/meta/0.20/logfile] FoghornLeghorn the Cudgeler (L7 VSFi of Okawaru), succumbed to an orc wizard's poison on D:5 (kennysheep_ying_yang) on 2017-05-22 07:46:43, with 757 points after 4436 turns and 0:08:34. 03:54:28 oh, cool 03:54:31 snark added it 03:54:51 !lg * cv=0.20 03:54:51 No games for * (cv=0.20). 03:54:59 !lg * cbro vlong~~0.20-b x=file,cv 03:55:00 361. [file=cbro/crawl/meta/0.20/logfile;cv=0.20-a] FoghornLeghorn the Cudgeler (L7 VSFi of Okawaru), succumbed to an orc wizard's poison on D:5 (kennysheep_ying_yang) on 2017-05-22 07:46:43, with 757 points after 4436 turns and 0:08:34. 03:55:12 !time 03:55:13 Time: May 22, 2017, 07:55:12 AM, UTC. 04:14:41 03minmay02 {gammafunk} 07* 0.21-a0-3-g279f716: Fix translucent stone and green crystal in minmay_the_grid_9x9_recursive_3. 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 16+ 14-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/279f716fa23d 04:14:41 03minmay02 {gammafunk} 07* 0.21-a0-4-g305a42f: Remove minmay_the_grid_triangle_9x9_line_8 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 0+ 29-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/305a42f3007e 04:14:41 03minmay02 {gammafunk} 07* 0.21-a0-5-g9b971b6: Add no_monster_gen to minmay_the_grid_ultimate 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9b971b6ef20c 04:14:41 03minmay02 {gammafunk} 07* 0.21-a0-6-g3c61f93: Another major the_grid revision 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 635+ 583-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3c61f937d49f 04:14:41 03minmay02 {gammafunk} 07* 0.21-a0-7-gee15c39: Remove translucent transformations from the_grid_setup 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 3+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ee15c392cb12 04:14:41 03minmay02 {gammafunk} 07* 0.21-a0-8-gcf94df6: Comment fix. 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 4+ 7-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/cf94df67d8e3 04:17:45 gammafunk, looks like CAO is good 04:17:53 excellent, thanks 04:17:59 had to tidy up the console window to move some old versions to a submenu 04:19:31 np. hope it doesn't break overnight 04:31:45 03minmay02 {gammafunk} 07[stone_soup-0.20] * 0.20-b1-3-g1095a56: Fix translucent stone and green crystal in minmay_the_grid_9x9_recursive_3. 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 16+ 14-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1095a56d6497 04:31:45 03minmay02 {gammafunk} 07[stone_soup-0.20] * 0.20-b1-4-g21fd92c: Remove minmay_the_grid_triangle_9x9_line_8 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 0+ 29-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/21fd92c3c909 04:31:45 03minmay02 {gammafunk} 07[stone_soup-0.20] * 0.20-b1-5-gc452561: Add no_monster_gen to minmay_the_grid_ultimate 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c45256169eca 04:31:45 03minmay02 {gammafunk} 07[stone_soup-0.20] * 0.20-b1-6-g0483782: Another major the_grid revision 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 635+ 583-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/04837824d384 04:31:45 03minmay02 {gammafunk} 07[stone_soup-0.20] * 0.20-b1-7-geacdd81: Remove translucent transformations from the_grid_setup 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 3+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/eacdd81051bc 04:31:45 03minmay02 {gammafunk} 07[stone_soup-0.20] * 0.20-b1-8-g26fde53: Comment fix. 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 4+ 7-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/26fde537b8db 05:10:14 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.21-a0-8-gcf94df6 (34) 09:06:34 Impossible to quiver nothing 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=11069 by Yermak 12:23:53 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 12:39:21 Stable (0.20) branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.20-b1-8-g26fde53 13:05:25 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.21-a0-8-gcf94df6 (34) 13:45:41 Webtiles server stopped. 13:45:42 ignacius (L10 TrMo) (D:7) 13:45:42 taybo (L2 MiBe) (D:2) 13:45:43 mightyjack22 (L12 HOFi) (D (Sprint)) 13:45:43 astaringelf (L11 MiGl) (Orc:1) 13:45:46 Eli (L6 FeWz) (D:4) 13:45:48 koboldina (L4 VSIE) (D:2) 13:45:51 healthycheekums (L6 MiFi) (D:4) 13:45:53 agricola (L23 FoFi) (Elf:2) 13:51:22 Webtiles server stopped. 13:51:47 Hey 13:51:51 I added .20 to the server 13:52:29 Could you please check to make sure it's correct, I think i got the ssh and the webtiles configured fine, but i did run into a problem trying to do a request by installing .15 to the server 13:52:37 the error was that it was pulling from gitorious for the code 13:52:48 when i had already changed the git repository to the newer one 13:53:07 So right now i just dont have .15 installed but all the shell work is done 13:53:28 Anyways, for the .20 version I have everything written as .20 let me know if you cant reach anything or I have to change any permissions 14:35:31 remember when doing that that you also have to change all the submodule paths 14:35:36 (the 0.15 thing that is) 14:36:04 and the submodule paths are written in multiple places 15:35:13 When flight ends above deep water/lava, you can't re-evoke it to extended the duration 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=11070 by Leszczynek 15:39:14 I think it would be nice to make the final enchant weapon/armor effect slightly different, as a visual clue that the weapon/armor has gained its maximum enchantment 15:43:43 So like, instead of "Your cloak glows green for a moment." it would be something like "Your cloak glows green and shimmers" 15:43:53 I can't think of a good effect though. 15:44:02 Vibrates unexpectedly. :-) 15:44:20 That would be unexpected :) 15:45:38 I'm trying to convey a sense of solidity but also immutability. Like, it should be a pleasing effect, but also one that gives the idea that it can't happen again 15:46:55 'for a while'. (the old use of that is long gone...) 15:47:20 "Your cloak throbs dangerously with power. Probably best to leave it alone." 15:48:26 XD I like it 15:58:07 -!- jefus- is now known as jefus 16:47:45 Buggy "Replace -foo- for cheaper one?" 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=11071 by Yermak 18:03:37 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.21-a0-8-gcf94df6 (34) 18:32:32 ZiBuDo: 0.20 isn't in the cjr console menu 18:32:49 ZiBuDo: oh, it does work if I hit 2 18:32:57 so it's just not listed properly in the console menu 18:33:10 but it appears to actually work 18:40:09 amalloy: someone in my stream the other day, "Hey gammafunk, thanks for the great stream, but do you know when amalloy will make more DCSS videos again?" 18:41:55 aw. flattering. probably not anytime soon, really, though. i haven't found video-making or crawl-playing terribly attractive for a while now 18:42:46 yeah, it happens 18:44:35 hmm ill check the menus again 18:45:57 the game seemed to work fine, just not listed 18:53:35 question for gnoll 2.0 that was brought up in the discussion thread: enable player choice stat growth (the choose one every three levels growth)? 18:53:43 for pros: it stays consistent with other species and gives more choice for players to mix up late game builds than flat 7/7/7 18:53:45 gammafunk: 0.15 isn't listed either. maybe a limitation on the number of game types console can show? 18:53:47 for cons: it doesn't mesh completely with the chosen description of 'unchanging attributes', and it lessens the effect of the conduct for specialization 18:53:52 however, I'm not sure if the later is a big deal considering they are already 3 below average on total starting stats and lose 12 stats from backgrounds 18:54:06 oh, weird 18:54:09 0.15 does work 18:54:35 ZiBuDo: yeah, you're missing menu entries for 0.15 but have it listed in webtiles 18:54:48 ZiBuDo: is it intentional that you have 0.15 but not 0.16? 18:55:32 Floodkiller: yeah, I don't have a great sense of how much difference a point can make 18:55:47 however there's certainly a big diff between 7 str and 16 str 18:56:00 if you take all str 18:56:30 yeah, which is why I'm torn between allowing it or not 18:56:34 likewise for the other stats; I get the feeling that that much of a gain would maybe ruin the conduct 18:56:39 but I also haven't actually played it myself 18:58:28 I'm merging your cocytus pr soon btw 18:58:47 cool 19:00:04 would you like me to leave it as is, or close it and rebase it into a single commit? 19:01:28 I could squash it some 19:01:33 but no, don't make a new PR 19:01:59 I have a local commit on top, and might have another 19:02:44 got it 19:05:19 !lg * tomb newtomb s=cwz 19:05:20 er 19:05:21 Unknown field: cwz 19:05:21 !lg * tomb newtomb s=src 19:05:22 87 games for * (tomb newtomb): 25x cwz, 21x cbro, 16x cao, 11x cxc, 4x cpo, 4x cue, 3x lld, 2x cjr, cdo 19:08:59 shame that cwz is not properly hooked up to footv 19:09:09 you can watch the ttyrecs if you go download them 19:09:55 gammafunk: yea someone specifically asked for .15 so i am adding it, since i made server around .17 19:10:04 or something i dont remember at this point 19:11:23 ^status 19:11:23 59 Crawlers. CBRO disk usage=97% (135GB) | RAM usage=41% (4GB)| uptime/CPU= 19:11:23 up 80 days, 23:49, 4 users, load average: 1.55, 1.38, 1.32 (4 Cores) http://status.berotato.org 19:12:07 gotcha 19:12:11 ??tournament_checklist 19:12:11 tournament checklist[1/2]: Servers still needing 0.20: CAO, CDO, CJR, CPO, CUE, CWZ 19:12:14 !lg 19:12:14 guess sequell is doing something 19:12:20 777. gammafunk the Bludgeoner (L18 TeAK of Lugonu), quit the game on Vaults:2 on 2017-05-21 06:51:49, with 198854 points after 75585 turns and 8:52:29. 19:13:31 !learn set tournament_checklist[1] Servers still needing 0.20: CDO CUE CWZ 19:13:31 tournament checklist[1/2]: Servers still needing 0.20: CDO CUE CWZ 19:17:53 always a rush that last week to see if all the servers get updated in time! 19:36:12 -!- GiantOwl is now known as Kalir 20:25:28 gammafunk: console menus updated forgot to update them in one spot 20:25:33 thx 20:25:49 let me know if the file links for tourney lookups are fine too 20:27:49 does shrm 20:27:51 oops 20:28:00 I'm getting a cert error 20:28:06 https://www.jorgrun.rocks/cjr-logfile-0.20 20:28:18 ah 20:28:19 wrong url 20:28:55 https://www.jorgrun.rocks/meta/0.20/ 20:28:59 the dir is empty 20:29:57 ZiBuDo: so I'm getting an SSL error and the meta dir seems to not have any files 20:30:07 maybe the listing just doesn't work 20:30:38 https://www.jorgrun.rocks/meta/0.20/logfile 20:30:38 gives me a forbidden message 20:31:20 hmm happens for .19 too 20:31:29 ZiBuDo: so yeah, seems to be two problems, first is SSL cert is not accepted, second is the logfile/milestone files are forbidden 20:33:07 There are issues with the site's certificate chain (net::ERR_CERT_COMMON_NAME_INVALID). 20:33:17 is what chrome developer tools says 20:33:26 ah 20:33:31 the cert is for crawl.jorgrun.rocks 20:33:37 but this url is www.jorgrun.rocks 20:33:54 aha 20:33:55 fixed the forbidden 20:34:02 https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/meta/0.20/logfile 20:34:04 also works 20:34:07 yeah that file loads now 20:34:09 then do that xD 20:34:13 will do 20:34:19 alright thanks for checking 20:34:28 but seems that your www.jorgrun.rocks url might not work? 20:34:30 if you wanted it to 20:34:50 yeah, I see that just does a redirect to crawl.jorgrun.rocks 20:34:57 so seems good 20:35:17 will just update our urls to use crawl.jorgrun.rocks from now on 20:35:21 cool 20:35:23 we may need to change CAO scoring pages as well 20:35:31 alright 20:35:33 my guess is those games may not be showing up 20:35:50 anyways if you need me email me if im not on here 20:35:53 !messages 20:35:53 No messages for ZiBuDo. 20:35:55 :o 20:37:30 why doesn't the mp3 play when I connect over ssh ZiBuDo 20:37:32 FIX IT 20:37:39 lol 20:37:47 i think i would get more emails 20:37:50 i get enough weird emails tbh 20:37:58 I can imagine 20:38:15 i always find it very amusing though cuz its around 1-2 a week at this point for some reason 20:38:26 What do the emails contain 20:38:35 well some are requests for weird versions like .15 20:38:40 and im like why that version 20:38:58 crawl before it was ruined by nerfs 20:39:34 that's the last ver without many of the recent balance adjustments 20:39:39 but still with no item destruction 20:39:42 which was removed that ver 20:39:50 that version and 0.17 might come up sometimes 20:39:55 but you already have 0.17 20:40:49 0.15 is MuMo version as well, so that might be why 20:41:20 lol 20:41:23 MuMo is a lie 20:41:25 doesn't exist 20:47:05 are there any known big bugs that need to be fixed this week? 20:47:18 I guess a decision needs to be made on the console color issue 20:51:58 advil: there are some issues yeah, if you're looking for things to work on 20:52:17 release is scheduled for Wed, so not a ton of time, but 20:52:35 PR 535 I haven't looked at 20:52:38 I'll have some time to do bugfixing over the next few days, my semester + conferences are winding down 20:52:46 titles makes it seem like a good thing 20:52:57 I'm about to merge the cocytus change with my own changes, so that one is covered 20:53:45 PR 379 looks like it'd be nice to have, but apparently there are some technical issues 20:53:51 so not sure if that one is feasible to fix up 20:53:57 I can take a look at 535, I looked at it before & it seemed reasonable, I just needed to double check what that struct is actually doing 20:54:18 cool 20:54:27 PR 539 can probably just be straight up merged 20:54:33 I was going to do that after this cocytus thing 20:55:10 !bug 11069 20:55:11 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=11069 20:55:22 bug when trying to quiver nothing 20:55:34 I didn't even know about Q before reading that bug report 20:56:42 lol 20:56:56 you've played a ranged char? 20:57:03 !bug 11029 20:57:03 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=11029 20:57:10 this is intended, right? "When flight ends above deep water/lava, you can't re-evoke it to extended the duration" 20:57:11 awaken forest bug, might be easy to fix 20:57:28 I just use [ and ] 20:57:42 or whatever it is, I do it by muscle memory 21:00:51 I think that evoke flight behaviour is intended, yeah 21:01:08 at least for the ring 21:01:11 ??boots 21:01:11 boots[1/1]: Armour rating: 1. They go on your feet, if you've got them. Sorry, one size does not fit all. They come in varieties of stealth (+50 stealth), running (faster movement), and flying (activate for permanent flight). 21:01:25 wasn't sure if boots of flying still exist, but I think they do 21:02:23 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 21:03:04 also, I can build the os x release versions again 21:05:55 oh, good 21:06:00 yeah, release scheduled for Wed 21:06:08 I'll ping you when 0.20.0 is tagged 21:06:13 ok, sounds good 21:06:21 wanted there to be a buffer day or two before start of t 21:07:42 yeah, that makes sense, especially since it's been a bit quiet here 21:08:06 re: evoking flight while in emergency flight -- I didn't think of that situation when writing the original PR 21:08:50 on one hand I don't really worry about punishing people in emergency flight because it's meant to be punishing, on the other it seems to be QoL to allow renewing flight rather than requiring them to land and then take off again, especially in eg Coc:7 21:09:13 alexjurkiewicz: well coc:7 is about to have the flight requirement removed 21:09:27 not to say that players can't get themselves into trouble there, since there's tons of deep water 21:09:31 also 21:09:35 .gftr -2 21:09:36 148/149. ProzacElf the Covert (L11 SpEn of Ru), blasted by a fire dragon (blast of flame) on D:9 (gammafunk_temple_overflow_arena) on 2017-05-23 00:58:25, with 9722 points after 15548 turns and 0:40:28. 21:09:37 yeah, i am a super fan of Floodkiller's PR 21:09:45 ProzacElf: nice rF- 21:09:53 went invis to spook the fire dragon 21:09:59 will you tweak the depth of that before 0.20? 21:10:00 but the fire dragon spooked him real good instead 21:10:11 not the depth, no 21:10:14 it's an overflow 21:10:18 the rarity definitely 21:10:28 I mean you have to voluntarily enter that vault 21:10:33 it's the frequency that bothers me 21:10:44 i sort of like it as is, tbh. since it's optional, you can return at a later date, but the longer you wait the smaller the loot benefit 21:10:45 also possible a bit too much loot, but it being much less common will make that matter less 21:10:50 yes 21:10:57 I just don't want it to be in like every other game 21:11:07 yeah. it's a memorable dungeon event 21:11:08 didn't realize how it being an overflow actualy makes it pretty common 21:12:06 i guess there aren't that many generic overflow vaults 21:12:06 yeah 21:12:07 it's tagged for 1-5 as well 21:12:19 at least some of those have relatively few vaults 21:12:40 so I'm going to eyeball it and give it weight anywhere between 1 and 5, depending on how it looks 21:12:48 maptstat apparently can't help 21:12:54 looks like only 30 or so? from an eyeball 21:13:03 well there's also how many for each tag 21:13:11 like if it was 30, it'd be fine as-is 21:13:27 but how many for e.g. 3, and how often is a 3-overflow chosen 21:13:45 I'll probably look for the number with the fewest vaults 21:13:51 and weight it based on that 21:14:27 oh, that vault can have up to 5 altars 21:14:36 yeah, anywhere from 1-5 21:14:40 so it has each tag 21:14:44 funny enough I was looking at generic overflow vaults recently, there are not a lot for anything past 2 21:14:58 that would make sense 21:15:26 yeah. damn minitemple 21:15:36 maybe look for it to be effectively not higher than 10% chance for any tag 21:15:38 but we'll have to see 21:15:56 theres a couple that can place a big variety of altars and then like 1 or 2 specific size ones at most for anything above 3 iirc 21:16:28 and are you only talking the generic ones? 21:16:37 3-overflows for specific gods won't count 21:16:41 yeah 21:17:03 there are a few more generic ones that place 3 than there are for the higher numbers 21:17:06 not a whole lot though 21:17:28 gammafunk: the worst part of weighting like that is you need to reweight on every new vault addition (theoretically) 21:17:42 alexjurkiewicz: well, I'd argue that you don't in this case since 21:17:49 all that's happening is that my vault gets a bit rarer 21:17:50 this is fine 21:18:03 10 tags for overflow_generic_3 atm 21:18:12 ok, that's fine 21:18:15 happen to know for 4 and 5? 21:18:16 8 for overflow_generic_4 21:18:27 6 for overflow_generic_5 21:18:36 so 60 21:18:38 assuming that this ctrl-f of the source is accurate 21:18:48 maybe I can get away with weight 5 or weight 4 21:18:57 but some of these might be the same vault tagged multiple times I think 21:19:09 well that's alright 21:19:17 like, grunt_temple_overflow_open has all 3 of those tags 21:19:18 it's effectively just an independant pool I think 21:19:24 for each number 21:19:27 same w/ minitemple 21:19:44 and nicolae_overflow_hidden_temple 21:19:45 I suppose there is the issue that you won't see minitemple used twice 21:19:50 yes 21:19:54 so if it needs a 3 and a 2 21:20:06 so perhaps it's wise to look at unique number of vaults 21:21:21 looks like 13 unique vaults that can have 3, 4, or 5 21:21:50 (or more than 1 of those) 21:22:27 there are an additional 5 generic overflow vaults that can have 2 21:22:27 maybe I'll just try 2 or 3 or something 21:22:27 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 21:22:27 maybe I can fix mapstat to actually give stats on these 21:22:36 by having it do the temple logic properly 21:23:03 just an absolute frequency for the vault would be best 21:35:06 advil: are you playing this tournament? 21:43:28 gammafunk: yes, I'm planning on playing at least some 21:49:25 are you already in a clan? 21:49:34 I'm not sure if brannock or wheals are playing at all 21:49:53 I'm pretty sure amalloy and PleasingFungus won't be 21:50:46 yeah, I saw you were asking if anyone was around for a dev team, but I have a team I usually play on that I don't want to abandon :-/ 21:50:54 no worries 21:51:27 MarvinPA: are you playing this tourney, and if so does your team have a vacancy? 21:59:19 -!- GiantOwl is now known as Kalir 22:03:32 gammafunk: a friend goaded me into your transporter vault 22:03:43 he was like "you're a spen! you've got !agi and !inv!" 22:03:58 your friend gets it, what could even go wrong? 22:03:59 so i quaffed, took the transporter, and died more or less immediately 22:04:02 lol 22:04:08 going in with rF- 22:04:15 did either of you even remember? 22:04:19 true, who could have ever foresaw such a fate? 22:04:28 haha, i specifically mentioned that i was looking at a one hit kill 22:04:36 if the dragon breathed at me and i somehow didn't dodge 22:04:37 !lg prozacelf 22:04:38 5062. ProzacElf the Geomancer (L10 DEEE of Dithmenos), slain by Someone4956's ghost on D:8 on 2017-05-23 02:00:08, with 3931 points after 9337 turns and 0:18:04. 22:04:44 !lg prozacelf spen x=dam,sdam 22:04:45 but really, who could have ever imagined me not dodging? 22:04:45 87. [dam=69;sdam=69] ProzacElf the Covert (L11 SpEn of Ru), blasted by a fire dragon (blast of flame) on D:9 (gammafunk_temple_overflow_arena) on 2017-05-23 00:58:25, with 9722 points after 15548 turns and 0:40:28. 22:04:48 !lg prozacelf spen x=dam,sdam,mhp 22:04:49 87. [dam=69;sdam=69;mhp=49] ProzacElf the Covert (L11 SpEn of Ru), blasted by a fire dragon (blast of flame) on D:9 (gammafunk_temple_overflow_arena) on 2017-05-23 00:58:25, with 9722 points after 15548 turns and 0:40:28. 22:14:16 would it even be such a big buff to set SpEn's dodge rate to 100%? 22:17:35 give high ev characters evasion, as in the D&D 3.5 class ability 22:17:57 maybe i'm thinking of improved evasion, been a while 22:19:32 heh 22:19:40