00:01:30 <gammafunk> @?electric golem
00:01:30 <Gretell> electric golem (118) | Spd: 16 | HD: 15 | HP: 115-157 | AC/EV: 5/20 | Dam: 1511(elec:15-21), 1511(elec:15-21), 15, 15 | 11non-living, 10doors, see invisible, unbreathing | Res: 13magic(immune), 05fire, 02cold, 11elec+++, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm, 04napalm | XP: 3302 | Sp: b.lightning (3d20) [06!sil], blink [06!sil] | Sz: Large | Int: brainless.
00:15:53 <gammafunk> @?death knight
00:15:53 <Gretell> death knight (03p) | Spd: 10 | HD: 10 | HP: 64-93 | AC/EV: 10/9 | Dam: 28 | natural, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, priest, evil | Res: 06magic(80) | XP: 908 | Sp: agony [11!AM], injury mirror [11!AM] | Sz: Medium | Int: human.
00:16:05 <gammafunk> hrm
00:16:08 <gammafunk> @?orc high priest
00:16:09 <Gretell> orc high priest (09o) | Spd: 10 | HD: 11 | HP: 44-63 | AC/EV: 3/11 | Dam: 7 | natural, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, priest, evil, see invisible | Res: 06magic(60) | XP: 840 | Sp: pain (d14) [11!AM], smiting (7-17) [11!AM], sum.demon [11!AM], heal other (2d5+3) [11!AM], minor healing (2d5+3) [11!AM, 04emergency] | Sz: Medium | Int: human.
00:16:57 <gammafunk> @?orc sorcerer
00:16:58 <Gretell> orc sorcerer (13o) | Spd: 10 | HD: 9 | HP: 25-37 | AC/EV: 7/12 | Dam: 7 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(40) | XP: 559 | Sp: b.fire (3d17), b.draining (3d17), sum.demon, paralyse | Sz: Medium | Int: human.
00:31:45 <alexjurkiewicz> @??orc priest
00:31:45 <Gretell> orc priest (03o) | Spd: 10 | HD: 3 | HP: 11-18 | AC/EV: 3/9 | Dam: 6 | natural, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, priest, evil | Res: 06magic(20) | XP: 41 | Sp: cantrip [11!AM], pain (d14) [11!AM], smiting (7-17) [11!AM], heal other (2d1+3) [11!AM] | Sz: Medium | Int: human.
00:32:07 <alexjurkiewicz> how come both sorts of top tier orc mages can summon demon
00:32:10 <alexjurkiewicz> boring!
00:34:28 <gammafunk> orcs are fascinated by demons
00:34:30 <gammafunk> it's their culture
00:34:41 <hellmonk> r a c i s t
02:20:48 -!- GiantOwl is now known as Kalir
02:45:38 <Gretell> Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.20-a0-1116-gaa52201
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14:00:21 <darkn> Howdy all! darkn from Texas, here. Looking to start contributing to Crawl -- but I wanted to check here to see if anyone knew what's currently going on with Crawl development :)
14:01:04 <Pinkbeast> darkn: Well, a bot mentions changes here, there's a wordpress blog of the major changes... what would you like to know?
14:02:15 <darkn> I suppose I'm looking for a jumping off point -- the wordpress blog would be cool, as well as a style-guide or something of the sort. I know there is an issue tracker, but I am not certain if that is all fair game for anyone to take on an issue to hopefully resolve it
14:03:48 <Pinkbeast> http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/
14:04:36 <Pinkbeast> I am not a developer but if you identify the cause of some open issue and/or send a pull request to fix it I doubt anyone is going to complain
14:05:22 <darkn> Nice! Will do! Just wanted to check and see if anyone had any tips or general knowledge to share. Thanks!
14:38:21 <minmay> i had a dream last night that i was playing on cbro and found a +33 long sword
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17:18:11 <rigrig> Would this be the right place to ask for help about https://crawl.project357.org/ telling me my savegame is corrupted?
17:19:08 <gammafunk> rigrig: you'd want to ask alexjurkiewicz about that
17:19:30 <gammafunk> since you are playing on cpo, you can also consider posting on the discord
17:19:50 <gammafunk> https://discordapp.com/invite/DKnDGRE
17:19:55 <gammafunk> for crawl anz players
17:20:14 <rigrig> thanks
17:20:42 <gammafunk> ??teleporter
17:20:42 <Sequell> teleporter[1/2]: Common vault feature defined in lua, most prominent over in zigsprint. Instantly teleports the player over to a pre-defined square when stepped on, usually for no reason whatsoever.
17:20:53 <gammafunk> ??teleporter[2
17:20:53 <Sequell> teleporter[2/2]: You cannot fly over them.
17:21:40 <gammafunk> !learn edit teleporter s/$/Replaced with the {transporter} feature in 0.20./
17:21:40 <Sequell> Use: !learn edit teleporter[NUM] s/<search>/<repl>/
17:21:45 <gammafunk> !learn edit teleporter[1] s/$/Replaced with the {transporter} feature in 0.20./
17:21:45 <Sequell> teleporter[1/2]: Common vault feature defined in lua, most prominent over in zigsprint. Instantly teleports the player over to a pre-defined square when stepped on, usually for no reason whatsoever.Replaced with the {transporter} feature in 0.20.
17:23:32 <gammafunk> !learn edit teleporter[1] s/r\.R/r. R/
17:23:33 <Sequell> teleporter[1/2]: Common vault feature defined in lua, most prominent over in zigsprint. Instantly teleports the player over to a pre-defined square when stepped on, usually for no reason whatsoever. Replaced with the {transporter} feature in 0.20.
17:26:48 <gammafunk> !learn add transporter A new feature in 0.20 that acts like one-way stair to another location on the same level. Use either > or < to enter. Adjacent hostiles and allies will travel with you to the other side.
17:26:49 <Sequell> transporter[1/1]: A new feature in 0.20 that acts like one-way stair to another location on the same level. Use either > or < to enter. Adjacent hostiles and allies will travel with you to the other side.
17:29:20 <gammafunk> !learn add transporter Replaces the old lua {teleporter} feature. Transporters are otherwise like normal floor tiles that can be safely traveled over and can hold monsters and items. Monsters can't use transporters by themselves.
17:29:24 <gammafunk> !learn add transporter Replaces the old lua {teleporter} feature. Transporters are otherwise like normal floor tiles that can be safely traveled over and can hold monsters and items. Monsters can't use transporters by themselves.
17:29:25 <Sequell> transporter[2/2]: Replaces the old lua {teleporter} feature. Transporters are otherwise like normal floor tiles that can be safely traveled over and can hold monsters and items. Monsters can't use transporters by themselves.
17:30:08 <|amethyst> gammafunk:  isn't it annoying that irssi doesn't have ctrl-r for reverse history search?
17:31:36 <gammafunk> Oh yeah old timer? Let me tell you of the annoyances of hitting up in Discord and only being able to edit your directly previous message! We don't even get full message editing history
17:32:42 <gammafunk> They have an API specifically to recognize bots as different from normal users, but have no UI to conveniently resend messages to bots ;_;
17:33:25 <gammafunk> amalloy actually educated me about ctrl-r in bash only like 4 or 5 months ago
17:33:35 <gammafunk> I had been so lazy for years and just used history | grep etc
17:37:36 <Pinkbeast> gammafunk: Shells didn't have Ctrl-R in 1988 so I learned all kinds of !-tricks which I have now forgotten
17:38:56 <gammafunk> yeah, I'm aware that there are a bunch of cute history edit/lookup tricks
17:39:05 <gammafunk> but I don't know what most of them are
17:39:24 <Pinkbeast> They're just a lot less use now
17:41:38 <rigrig> That's the kind of thing I'd spend half a day reading about, and then a week later it's back to history|fgrep because I baraly remember about ctrl-r, let alone all of the fancy stuff
17:42:20 <Pinkbeast> I think to learn it you have to make an active effort to use it all the time; that's how I learned a lot of vi runes
17:46:24 <gammafunk> ctrl-r in bash is very easy to remember and such a large improvement over grepping the history
17:49:59 -!- molotove2 is now known as molotove616
17:52:42 <ProzacElf> hey, do randart fire or ice dragon scales ever get an rC/rF+ that offsets the natural disadvantage?
17:52:48 <ProzacElf> or is that disallowed?
17:52:58 <minmay> it's disallowed
17:55:18 <|amethyst> though have fun tracking down exactly what prevents that
17:55:22 <Pinkbeast> gammafunk: Oh, I don't mean stuff like Ctrl-R that's _so_ good you immediately want to use it all the time, because then you don't have to make an active effort to use it all the time. :-)
17:55:32 <minmay> haha yeah
17:55:47 <ProzacElf> haha
17:55:49 <|amethyst> _randart_is_conflicting?  no
17:55:55 <ProzacElf> nah, i'm good
17:55:59 <ProzacElf> i'll trust you guys
17:56:32 <minmay> fr: don't prevent it, allow fire dragon armours of rF+++++
17:59:34 <ProzacElf> heh
17:59:56 <ProzacElf> i'm always disappointed when you have rF+++++ and putting on one rF- thing gives you rF++
18:01:22 <ProzacElf> man, snakebite is so good early
18:03:33 <ProzacElf> wrong chan
18:14:55 <Cheibriados> 03|amethyst02 07* 0.20-a0-1117-g62da73f: Miscellaneous mon-pick improvements. 10(34 minutes ago, 2 files, 17+ 15-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/62da73fdaeed
19:09:32 <Jorgrell> Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.20-a0-1117-g62da73f (34)
20:09:53 <Floodkiller> !messages
20:09:53 <Sequell> (1/1) minmay said (20h 36m 24s ago): that was my conception of it, yes (aside from the 5/5/5 values specifically, which were just an example)
21:36:58 <Lightli> quick question
21:37:07 <Lightli> do kills by your ancestor while worshiping hep get hit by the exp penalty that summons have
21:37:55 <Pinkbeast> Lightli: No.
21:38:01 <Lightli> oh
21:38:07 <Pinkbeast> Ancestor kills are full value.
22:55:52 <alexjurkiewicz> hellmonk: still can't believe you removed memopode
22:56:14 <hellmonk> ??
22:56:15 <Sequell> hellmonk: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it.
23:00:21 <alexjurkiewicz> no Op in hellcrawl
23:00:50 <hellmonk> op still exists tho
23:01:15 <alexjurkiewicz> ok I checked and you're right, HOWEVER *mumble mumble*
23:02:13 <alexjurkiewicz> maybe remove AK since abyss is useless now
23:02:37 <alexjurkiewicz> also, spiens mut doesn't show damage
23:03:56 <hellmonk> noted
23:04:11 <hellmonk> remove ak would be alright but I would want to make lugonu a temple god probably
23:04:26 <hellmonk> or rather the equivalent of that, having normal altar spawn range
23:05:52 <rumflump> remove ak/ck, make xom and lugo spawn between d1-3
23:06:01 <alexjurkiewicz> xom is already a temple god
23:10:46 <Lightli> hellmonk: are you removing all god starts
23:11:30 <hellmonk> not like, immediately or anything
23:11:37 <hellmonk> dunno if I will go there long term or not
23:11:58 <alexjurkiewicz> i guess distort brand could do with a rework to remove blinking/teleporting enemies
23:12:11 <alexjurkiewicz> I'm not sure how to make it then functionally different from "elec with occasional banish" though
23:14:24 <nikheizen> Confused Shock Serpents can cause a feedback loop, damaging themselves until death. http://i.imgur.com/Xwyx86D.png
23:15:24 <alexjurkiewicz> weird. aren't they immune to elec
23:16:43 <nikheizen> @??shock serpent
23:16:43 <Gretell> shock serpent (12S) | Spd: 15 | HD: 10 | HP: 42-65 | AC/EV: 2/15 | Dam: 2011(elec:10-14) | cold-blooded | Res: 06magic(40), 11elec+++ | XP: 827 | Sp: b.electrical (3d13) [11!AM, 06!sil] | Sz: Medium | Int: animal.
23:17:04 <nikheizen> weird indeed!
23:19:23 <Doesnty> no
23:19:30 <Doesnty> that also doesn't always kill
23:19:38 <Doesnty> if they take too little damage, it won't proc the counter
23:20:06 <nikheizen> yeah, but i mean, it feels odd that it harms themselves
23:20:12 <alexjurkiewicz> the damage type is BEAM_ELECTRICITY and it is reduced by half AC
23:20:30 <alexjurkiewicz> so, elec immunity should prevent damage
23:20:33 <nikheizen> ??resistances[2
23:20:34 <alexjurkiewicz> crawlcode
23:20:34 <Sequell> resistance[2/3]: Monster resistances. rF-,rC-: 150%; rF+,rC+: 50%; rF++,rC++: 20%; rF+++,rC+++,hellfire: 0%; rElec+,rPois+: 33%; rElec++,rPois++: 17%, rElec+++,rPois+++: 0%.
23:20:48 <Doesnty> solution: remove the stupid counter-attack from shock serpents
23:20:54 <nikheizen> ^
23:20:55 <n1k> is there a way to ddoor a shock serpent
23:21:12 -!- n1k is now known as n1
23:21:25 <Doesnty> i think it would just take 0 damage from itself and thus not counter?
23:21:55 <n1> that would make sense but I really have no idea
23:22:15 <Doesnty> yeah knowing crawl code
23:22:23 <Doesnty> who knows
23:23:23 <minmay> The shock serpent bites itself for 17!
23:23:23 <minmay> The shock serpent's electric aura discharges, shocking the shock serpent! x10
23:23:48 <minmay> and yes, it does take a bunch of additional damage
23:24:09 <minmay> !fight shock serpent hp:10000 perm_ench:confusion v shock serpent hp:10000 perm_ench:confusion delay:50
23:24:30 <Doesnty> lol
23:24:42 <Lightli> it's like the myth of ouroboros
23:24:44 <Doesnty> yeah i spoke too soon
23:24:46 <Doesnty> you would know
23:24:48 <Lightli> except with lightning instead of another snake
23:24:57 <hellmonk> just r e m o v e it
23:25:40 <minmay> if every snake pit monster is replaced with a new one over time, is it still the snake pit
23:25:44 <minmay> !fight cancel
23:25:45 <Lightli> yes
23:25:49 <Lightli> the actual pit is still there
23:26:04 <minmay> dammit, i hate it when people find loopholes in my ship of theseus jokes
23:26:08 <Doesnty> replace all the map generators and fixed vaults
23:34:23 <ProzacElf> why wouldn't we want to get rid of every monster in snake pit?
23:36:39 <ProzacElf> also, that was a bit of a reach on the theseus joke anyway
23:42:03 <alexjurkiewicz> if you change all the elements of a theseus joke is it still a theseus joke
23:45:58 <ProzacElf> is it even a joke?
23:54:41 <Doesnty> http://i.imgur.com/YkdcznX.png if you replace every element of the moon troll armor
23:55:46 <minmay> the ship of theseus but every board is replaced with the nutshack theme