00:00:08 <Eksell> Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.20-a0-1043-gbd57889 (34)
00:03:16 <minmay> !messages
00:03:16 <Sequell> No messages for minmay.
01:19:18 <Gretell> Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.20-a0-1043-gbd57889 (34)
01:58:42 <Gretell> Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.20-a0-1043-gbd57889
02:18:29 <rumflump> #crawlcode,butnot https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Rnz
02:34:53 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy
02:53:30 <Gretell> Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.20-a0-1043-gbd57889
03:12:39 <Rotatell> Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.20-a0-1043-gbd57889 (34)
03:27:44 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_
03:55:31 <TZer0> !tell |amethyst any ideas why my bot is quiet?
03:55:32 <Sequell> TZer0: OK, I'll let |amethyst know.
03:56:10 <TZer0> !tell |amethyst nevermind.
03:56:11 <Sequell> TZer0: OK, I'll let |amethyst know.
03:57:43 <kramin> who manages CDO?
03:58:12 <kramin> I can do it's announcing with Postquell if they want to be absorbed into the machine
03:59:31 <nikheizen> crawl announcer bots: too big to fail
04:59:10 <Cheibriados> 03gammafunk02 07* 0.20-a0-1044-g97bcf2f: Make some functions static and document 10(5 weeks ago, 1 file, 55+ 32-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/97bcf2f4298c
04:59:10 <Cheibriados> 03gammafunk02 07* 0.20-a0-1045-gab23864: Clean up secret moon lore 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 9+ 10-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ab2386400fc9
04:59:10 <Cheibriados> 03gammafunk02 07* 0.20-a0-1046-g08d5691: Implement transporters 10(2 weeks ago, 51 files, 914+ 134-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/08d569129252
04:59:10 <Cheibriados> 03gammafunk02 07* 0.20-a0-1047-ge02263c: Rework vaults previously using lua teleporters to use transporters 10(2 weeks ago, 4 files, 129+ 114-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e02263c3ed05
04:59:10 <Cheibriados> 03gammafunk02 07* 0.20-a0-1048-gd0c4d64: Some transporter vaults 10(6 days ago, 2 files, 237+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d0c4d6411e23
05:01:49 -!- ZChris13_ is now known as ZChris13
05:10:10 <Jorgrell> Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.20-a0-1048-gd0c4d64 (34)
05:30:22 -!- stephen is now known as smazza
06:14:27 <alexjurkiewicz> |amethyst: just noticed i randomly responded to you in /r/programming
09:12:36 <advil> !crash toastedzergling
09:12:50 <Sequell> 2. toastedzergling, XL21 HOBe, T:43124 (milestone): https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/morgue/toastedzergling/crash-toastedzergling-20170424-011202.txt
09:14:17 <advil> weird, that is a warlock's mirror reflecting agony, shouldn't actually kill anything
09:15:26 <advil> oh hmm I guess it saves damage as a fineff
09:16:50 <advil> even more complicated, it might be a warlock's mirror + pain mirror interaction
09:32:23 <advil> once again, really a pain to replicate
09:32:33 <advil> we may want to consider reverting that assert for release
09:41:30 <|amethyst> could use an  #if CRAWL_VERSION_RELEASE != VER_FINAL
09:41:30 <Sequell> |amethyst: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them.
09:42:26 <|amethyst> hm
09:42:58 <|amethyst> should rewrite amethyst_srp_altar to use transporters
09:43:05 <advil> there's no way to make monsters cast specific spells right?
09:43:18 <|amethyst> you can give them a specific spell list
09:43:32 <advil> I mean in wizmode
09:44:31 <advil> part of why I haven't yet replicated that crash is that the stupid death knight just hits me most of the time
09:44:46 <|amethyst> I make a monster with spell:fireball.255.wizard   so they cast it every turn it's useful
09:44:52 <advil> and its MR is too high for reflected agony to trigger much
09:44:55 <advil> ah
09:45:05 <|amethyst> well, nearly every turn
09:45:26 <|amethyst> they'll still chase you, and have a good chance to hit you if adjacent, but they will spam the spell quite a bit anyway
09:45:33 <|amethyst> s/to hit/to melee/
09:45:56 <advil> fr wizmode monster editing
09:46:59 <|amethyst> that would be neat
09:52:05 <advil> probably one would discover that it's deeply embedded into the foundations of crawlcode that monsters never change
09:54:16 <advil> "what can change the nature of a gnoll?"
13:25:36 <Henzell> Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.20-a0-1048-gd0c4d64 (34)
13:35:42 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy
14:04:38 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_
14:15:15 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy
15:12:43 <ProzacElf> heh, i was not aware until yesterday that porkolated imps turn into hellhogs
15:12:48 <ProzacElf> secret kirke tech
16:58:46 <Lantell> rlgrobin (L21 TrMo) ASSERT(!invalid_monster(&mons)) in 'mon-death.cc' at line 1887 failed. (Vaults:4)
17:02:13 <gammafunk> MarvinPA: did you have any opinions on what to do about Monks? I think most people are pretty unhappy with how they are now
17:13:59 <Cheibriados> New branch created: pull/524 (6 commits) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/524
17:13:59 <Cheibriados> 03rdunk02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/524 * 0.19-a0-1008-gc2ec2fc: Fix for 0010555: Big Wings Weirdness Updating the player tile when the big wings mutation is acquired 10(9 months ago, 1 file, 6+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c2ec2fc992cc
17:13:59 <Cheibriados> 03rdunk02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/524 * 0.19-a0-1009-g0d604ee: Fixing formatting 10(9 months ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0d604ee8264e
17:13:59 <Cheibriados> 03rdunk02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/524 * 0.19-a0-1071-g72ce42b: Merge remote-tracking branch 'upstream/master' 10(9 months ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/72ce42b8366b
17:13:59 <Cheibriados> 03Russell Dunk02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/524 * 0.19-b1-4-g9668c71: Merge branch 'master' of https://github.com/Skilld18/crawl 10(6 months ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9668c7154fec
17:13:59 <Cheibriados> 03Russell Dunk02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/524 * 0.20-a0-1053-gb87cdd84: Merge remote-tracking branch 'upstream/master' into HEAD 10(28 minutes ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b87cdd84d646
17:13:59 <Cheibriados> 03Russell Dunk02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/524 * 0.20-a0-1054-g28641ff: Uskayaw stomp now warns user about damaging friendlies(11003) 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 15+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/28641ffda451
17:17:35 <MarvinPA> gammafunk: when it was discussed briefly the other day i was mainly in favour of just reverting the change, i think lasty agreed there too
17:17:47 <gammafunk> I wouldn't have a problem with that either
17:18:19 <gammafunk> I understand the motivation behind the commit, but the way it was done doesn't work
17:19:38 <MarvinPA> gammafunk: oh also, i noticed a bunch of TAG_MAJOR comments in your transporter commit, did you know about dat/des/variable/compat.des?
17:20:06 <MarvinPA> that's been used as a place to dump all those obsoleted lua callbacks so they're all in one place
17:20:22 <gammafunk> I should look into that, but I ran into a weird thing where callbacks as save compat when I moved them to another lua block
17:20:58 <gammafunk> like I actually tested with the old map versions created in a save, and it failed to find the callback functions at random
17:21:01 <MarvinPA> ah ok, i don't think i ever had any problems moving things there but maybe it gets weird with particularly complicated lua
17:21:09 <gammafunk> meaning sometimes it could find it, sometimes not
17:21:18 <gammafunk> I wonder if it's some general problem callbacks
17:21:25 <gammafunk> but yeah if possible I'll move them there
17:45:47 <Cheibriados> 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.20-a0-1049-g537b456: Revert "Remove Monks' starting weapon choice" 10(7 days ago, 3 files, 7+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/537b456c9a2d
17:52:42 <Cheibriados> 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.20-a0-1050-g57248f3: Update Monk manual entry 10(48 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/57248f37952a
17:56:08 <gammafunk> oops, MPA beat me too it!
17:57:21 <gammafunk> you know what, that's a better commit message that what I had going, as well, I quit!
17:57:45 <gammafunk> s/too/to/
17:57:47 <|amethyst> alexjurkiewicz:  ha, my years in ##bash have paid off
17:58:33 <gammafunk> was that the "you can assume #!/bin/bash" works comment?
17:59:13 <gammafunk> which, to be honest, although I'd know not to assume that, I wouldn't know when exactly /bin/bash wouldn't be available
17:59:19 <|amethyst> alexjurkiewicz's (= pork_spare_ribs) was, yes
17:59:36 <|amethyst> /bin/bash is for the most part there on GNU systems, and not elsewhere
17:59:56 <|amethyst> I think opensolaris has /bin/bash but maybe it's /usr/bin or /opt/gnu or something
18:00:00 <|amethyst> err
18:00:07 <|amethyst> well, I guess it's there on OS X too
18:00:20 <|amethyst> and since the whole world is Linux + OS X, you're fine :)
18:01:07 <gammafunk> I've run OpenBSD before! And toyed with FreeBSD
18:01:19 <|amethyst> I once had OpenBSD and FreeBSD vms
18:01:25 <|amethyst> and opensolaris
18:01:28 <|amethyst> once upon a time
18:01:39 <|amethyst> RIP opensolaris
18:02:39 <|amethyst> I should set up a new Solaris VM
18:05:39 <gammafunk> I was always curious about trying something really different like Plan 9. But I'm not sure that it ever really took off in any way
18:07:22 <geekosaur> it didn't
18:09:29 <Jorgrell> Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.20-a0-1050-g57248f3 (34)
18:13:14 <gammafunk> |amethyst: does cheibriados have source code available for its git polling? I'd like to implement something similar for Cerebot, but don't want to go about it in a silly way
18:15:45 <Lantell> Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.20-a0-1050-g57248f3 (34)
18:21:20 <|amethyst> gammafunk: http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=cheibriados.git   I should probably put that under the crawl account on github
18:21:26 <gammafunk> thanks
18:21:44 <|amethyst> specifically
18:21:55 <|amethyst> http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=cheibriados.git;a=blob;f=lib/Crawl/Bot/Plugin/Commit.pm;hb=HEAD
18:24:49 <gammafunk> oh, so it "ticks" with a git fetch, seeing if HEAD changed?
18:25:08 <gammafunk> I guess that's a pretty straitforward way of doing it
18:26:17 <|amethyst> not just HEAD, but all branches
18:26:17 <gammafunk> A wiki plugin PogChamp
18:27:13 <|amethyst> I'm not sure if the wiki plugin has ever worked
18:27:33 <|amethyst> probably did once upon a time when the bot was called Ashenzari
18:40:11 <gammafunk> Do we no longer list monsters being insubstantial at all?
18:41:14 <gammafunk> I'm not sure that the player currently has any way to tell that e.g. a given monster is immune to shatter or not
18:55:46 <|amethyst> gammafunk:  you say "no longer", but did we ever?
18:55:51 <|amethyst> we definitely should
18:55:53 <gammafunk> that is possible!
18:56:10 <gammafunk> but I swear I was able to find this info without looking in the monster definitions at one point
18:56:14 <gammafunk> but it's not in monster, nor in xv
18:56:31 <|amethyst> patches welcome</asshole>
18:57:06 <gammafunk> ah, see, but if you want the gammafunk name on your git repo, you gotta pay for my commits. top dollar.
18:57:52 <gammafunk> I will look into that though, since I don't know if the player can currently figure out if spells that interact with insubstantial will have an effect on a specific monster
18:58:22 <|amethyst> ideally targetting and the monsters-in-range check would know about that
18:58:56 <|amethyst> though I guess i.e. Sticky Flame still does impact damage to insubstantials
18:59:35 <nee`> Hello, when I build with `make debug test TILES=y ...` the tests crash. Are they only supposed to be run with TILES disabled? Because they work fine when I disable it, and the game itself plays fine with TILES=y.
19:00:07 <geekosaur> I can't see them working right with TILES=y
19:00:56 <geekosaur> unless you want to hack in support for the tests to configure Xvfb instead of fakepty when in TILES mode
19:05:20 <nee`> geekosaur: Thank you for the info. Maybe this can be documented somewhere in INSTALL.txt or docs/develop/testing.txt
19:10:24 <Cheibriados> New branch created: pull/525 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/525
19:10:24 <Cheibriados> 03Russell Dunk02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/525 * 0.20-a0-1051-g2a3e80b: Uskayaw stomp now warns user about damaging friendlies(11003) 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 15+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2a3e80bf0104
19:21:50 <advil> !crashlog
19:21:51 <Sequell> 17180. rlgrobin, XL21 TrMo, T:50382 (milestone): https://underhound.eu:81/crawl/morgue/rlgrobin/crash-rlgrobin-20170424-205846.txt
19:22:42 <advil> at least that's basically the same crash as the previous one
19:25:00 <advil> no less annoying to replicate this version
19:26:06 <advil> hmm...so yaktaur shoots a bolt, gets reflected off player, hits a death knight with pain bond up, who gets the damage?
19:28:02 <|amethyst> should be the yaktaur, but there is currently a crash if the yaktaur dies
19:28:11 <|amethyst> which is especially relevant with piercing
19:28:27 <|amethyst> penetration, or whatever it's calles
19:28:31 <|amethyst> s/lles/lled/
19:28:38 <|amethyst> s/dies/already died/
19:29:11 <advil> there's a crash if the death knight dies too, apparently
19:29:37 <advil> !source fineff.cc:214
19:29:38 <Sequell> https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/fineff.cc#L214
19:32:09 <advil> that messaging is odd, too
19:33:50 <advil> well, I replicated it
19:33:57 <advil> progress
19:44:40 <advil> unfortunately it is specific to reflection so I may never replicate it again
19:53:21 <amalloy> advil: you can make reflection relatively reliable, can't you?
19:53:33 <advil> yeah, I've managed to do it once more
19:53:48 <amalloy> place monsters in iron-grate cages so they can't move, and position yourself at the right angle with a +1000 "reflection
19:53:49 <advil> the conditions are, a yaktaur (or whatever) has to miss the DK, trigger reflect, and kill the DK
19:54:51 <amalloy> give the DK mhp of 1, and make him spam pain mirror as |amethyst suggested. should make it happen reasonably often, no?
19:55:29 <advil> well, often enough to be possible but annoying
20:14:29 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_
20:44:45 -!- MaxFrosty is now known as MaxFrost
21:05:38 <alexjurkiewicz> <+|amethyst> I think opensolaris has /bin/bash <-- as a symlink at least. But yeah, Windows, Linux and OSX all have it at /bin/bash :)
21:06:58 <gammafunk> someone forgot that the BSDs exist
21:08:14 <alexjurkiewicz> but nobody uses them!
21:08:27 <alexjurkiewicz> i bet /bin/bash isn't on beos either
21:13:01 <gammafunk> uh huh
21:24:36 <|amethyst> gammafunk:  it's on the commercially relevant BSD :P
21:25:08 <gammafunk> huh?
21:25:26 <|amethyst> OS X
21:25:51 <gammafunk> I'm pretty sure "Windows bash" isn't terribly commercially relevant, and FreeBSD is used commercially at a number of hosting places
21:26:23 <gammafunk> not that it's a big deal to assume that /bin/bash works for most scripts
21:28:16 <gammafunk> I don't know what POSIX tells you to do about stuff like that anyhow, presumable there are good rules for what kind of things to assume about shell availablility
21:28:33 <|amethyst> The Posix way is to s/// the script at install time to use the system shell
21:28:37 <|amethyst> I shit you not
21:28:40 <gammafunk> hah
21:28:59 <geekosaur> #! /usr/bin/env bash
21:29:00 <geekosaur> :p
21:29:14 <|amethyst> /usr/bin/env might not be Posix env, though
21:29:31 <|amethyst> so it's not the Posix way :)
21:30:22 <gammafunk> I guess most shell scripts are installed via system packages, so some of that is happening at the package level?
21:30:48 <gammafunk> not sure if BSD ports have anything they do about shell scripts
21:31:16 * geekosaur stopped caring much about POSIX some time back anyway. it's marketing, not technical
21:31:46 <geekosaur> they'll change stuff as needed to let a commercial entity tick the POSIX checkbox
21:35:22 <hellmonk> johnstein, alexjurkiewicz: can I get a hellcrawl update please
22:07:18 <minmay> posix is a spook
22:08:49 <hellmonk> thats racist
23:06:53 <gammafunk> @?frilled lizard
23:06:54 <Gretell> frilled lizard (03l) | Spd: 10 | HD: 1 | HP: 1-3 | AC/EV: 0/15 | Dam: 3 | amphibious, cold-blooded | Res: 12drown | XP: 1 | Sz: tiny | Int: animal.
23:16:46 <gammafunk> http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/trunk-updates-24-april-2017
23:17:36 <ProzacElf> any word on when the tourney might be?
23:18:45 <minmay> Is d:3 always-wand ijyb expected to stay
23:19:16 <minmay> If so I'm pretty sure she'll end up wtih the highest killratio in the game
23:19:36 <ProzacElf> heh
23:19:49 <ProzacElf> australians shouldn't wrestle maurice or gastronok?
23:20:30 <gammafunk> I mean, if they manage to find any, I wouldn't recommend wrestling them
23:21:06 <ProzacElf> heh
23:21:29 <minmay> eh I'm not even very athletic and I'm pretty sure I could kick maurice's ass
23:26:03 <ProzacElf> but what about his wands!!
23:27:09 <gammafunk> you don't see invisible
23:27:18 <gammafunk> how are you going to kick the ass of a dude who's invisible
23:28:43 <minmay> i just go PBTBPHTBPHTBPHTBPHTBPTHBPTHBTPHBTPHBTPBHTPHB with my mouth spraying saliva in front of me, and some of the droplets will stick to maurice so i can see him
23:41:13 <gammafunk> that's not at all how the fights with the invisible demons and aliens go down in animes and predator movies dude
23:41:16 -!- yesno__ is now known as yesno
23:42:30 <minmay> never watched any of either tbh
23:44:04 <minmay> !lg * ckiller=ijyb place=d:3 s=cv
23:44:36 <Sequell> 12913 games for * (ckiller=ijyb place=d:3): 957x 0.17-a, 894x 0.20-a, 709x 0.14-a, 626x 0.18-a, 616x 0.16-a, 611x 0.17, 596x 0.10, 584x 0.19-a, 535x 0.16, 532x 0.13-a, 513x 0.15-a, 465x 0.11, 461x 0.15, 424x 0.12-a, 405x 0.9, 389x 0.7, 370x 0.19, 346x 0.18, 327x 0.5, 299x 0.4, 297x 0.14, 277x 0.13, 274x 0.8, 245x 0.12, 222x 0.11-a, 182x 0.10-a, 158x 0.6, 129x 0.8-a, 123x 0.3, 95x 0.2, 91x 0.9-a, 5...
23:45:29 <minmay> !lg * thisweek ckiller=ijyb
23:45:30 <Sequell> 60. 1321a the Skirmisher (L5 DsFi of Gozag), blasted by Ijyb (wand of lightning (?/15)) on D:3 on 2017-04-25 03:06:52, with 153 points after 2351 turns and 0:02:45.
23:45:33 <minmay> !lm * thisweek uniq=ijyb
23:46:19 <minmay> !killratio ijyb
23:47:03 <Sequell> 90s limit exceeded: killed !lm * thisweek uniq=ijyb
23:47:50 <Sequell> 90s limit exceeded: killed !killratio ijyb
23:48:03 <minmay> ok then
23:48:38 <gammafunk> !kw month
23:48:38 <Sequell> Keyword: month => end>${now()-interval('31d')}
23:48:52 <gammafunk> !gitgrep 1 Ijyb
23:48:52 <Sequell> %git HEAD^{/Ijyb}
23:48:52 <Cheibriados> 07gammafunk02 * 0.20-a0-1026-gc3ddcbd: Move a vault deeper and fix a typo in a vault name 10(5 days ago, 2 files, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c3ddcbd8214c
23:48:57 <gammafunk> !gitgrep 2 Ijyb
23:48:57 <Sequell> %git HEAD^{/Ijyb}^^{/Ijyb}
23:48:57 <Cheibriados> 07MarvinPA02 * 0.20-a0-918-g7688923: Always give Maurice a wand 10(4 weeks ago, 3 files, 11+ 7-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7688923efa51
23:49:18 <gammafunk> !kw wandijyb vlong>=0.20-a0-918-g7688923
23:49:19 <Sequell> Defined keyword: wandijyb => vlong>=0.20-a0-918-g7688923
23:49:27 <gammafunk> !killratio ijyb * wandijyb
23:49:46 <Sequell> ijyb wins 10.89% of battles against * (wandijyb).
23:49:53 <gammafunk> !killratio ijyb * !wandijyb recent
23:50:00 <Sequell> ijyb wins 5.463% of battles against * (!wandijyb recent).
23:50:17 <gammafunk> I don't see any change at all...
23:52:59 <kramin> !gitgrep equip_bar
23:52:59 <Sequell> %git HEAD^{/}
23:52:59 <Cheibriados> 07MarvinPA02 * 0.20-a0-1050-g57248f3: Update Monk manual entry 10(6 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/57248f37952a
23:53:33 <kramin> that didn't work
23:53:36 <kramin> oh
23:53:40 <kramin> !gitgrep 1 equip_bar
23:53:40 <Sequell> %git HEAD^{/equip_bar}
23:53:41 <Cheibriados> 07elliptic02 * 0.20-a0-911-gc068411: Add an option to replace the noise bar with an equipment bar. 10(4 weeks ago, 4 files, 44+ 11-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c068411295f4
23:55:07 <gammafunk> kramin: works for me