00:00:26 <Eksell> Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.20-a0-1034-gb277f92 (34)
00:14:40 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_
00:21:08 <gammafunk> re the hatch names, yeah they probably should have a special description
00:21:14 <gammafunk> a custom tile would be cool as well
00:26:47 <CanOfWorms> might as well get that done while I'm still awake
00:27:20 <gammafunk> PogChamp
00:27:39 <hellmonk> just remove tomb kappa
00:28:08 <gammafunk> Hates tomb, has his player go through extended every game to win LUL
00:28:43 <hellmonk> tomb is the worst part of extended though, it's like the rotten asscrack of the game
00:29:27 <gammafunk> hell annoys me more
00:29:55 <gammafunk> however trap discovery in tomb is really annoying
00:33:09 <minmay> can't traps in vaults just die already
00:33:26 <hellmonk> can't traps just die already, thank in advance
01:17:16 <CanOfWorms> gammafunk: http://imgur.com/a/L1eoh
01:19:24 <neizenel> does hellcrawl remove traps?
01:19:24 <gammafunk> CanOfWorms: very cool
01:19:41 <Gretell> Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.20-a0-1034-gb277f92 (34)
01:20:18 <gammafunk> CanOfWorms: are you happy with those so that I can put them in?
01:20:52 <gammafunk> also I wonder what we call these
01:21:30 <neizenel> one way stairs
01:22:00 <gammafunk> one-way downward/upward staircase
01:22:21 <neizenel> one way stairs (down)
01:23:26 <CanOfWorms> gammafunk: yeah go ahead
01:58:06 <Cheibriados> Xom's Smite Killed a D:1 FeCK Directly, Damage for over twice it's mhp. 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=11025 by bcadren
01:59:11 <Gretell> Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.20-a0-1034-gb277f92
02:00:51 <nikheizen> now that's a good bug
02:18:34 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy
02:53:34 <Gretell> Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.20-a0-1034-gb277f92
03:12:48 <Rotatell> Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.20-a0-1034-gb277f92 (34)
04:02:19 <Cheibriados> 03gammafunk02 07* 0.20-a0-1035-gfcccd65: Descriptions and tiles for one-way stairs in Tomb (CanOfWorms) 10(63 minutes ago, 6 files, 26+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/fcccd65cc7e1
04:18:39 <Gretell> stickyfingers (L17 KoEn) ASSERT(!newpos.origin()) in 'spl-goditem.cc' at line 871 failed. (Shoals:2)
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04:36:22 <gammafunk> !lg * tomb newtomb
04:36:23 <Sequell> 11. graki42 the Hoplite (L25 HOFi of The Shining One), blasted by a mummy priest (divine providence) on Tomb:2 (tomb_2; tomb_2_ambush_grunt_arcs) on 2017-04-21 07:30:45, with 528252 points after 58025 turns and 4:51:44.
04:36:37 <gammafunk> !lg !bot tomb newtomb lvl>1
04:36:39 <Sequell> 7. graki42 the Hoplite (L25 HOFi of The Shining One), blasted by a mummy priest (divine providence) on Tomb:2 (tomb_2; tomb_2_ambush_grunt_arcs) on 2017-04-21 07:30:45, with 528252 points after 58025 turns and 4:51:44.
04:36:55 <gammafunk> !lg !bot tomb newtomb lvl>1 -tv:<4
04:36:55 <Sequell> 7. graki42, XL25 HOFi, T:58025 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org.
04:38:28 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_
04:42:50 -!- Guest26895 is now known as yuastnav
04:43:48 <gammafunk> !log -2
04:43:48 <Sequell> No games for -2.
04:43:49 <gammafunk> !lg !bot tomb newtomb lvl>1 -log -2
04:43:50 <Sequell> 6/7. MrLimpet, XL27 FoFi, T:109198: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/MrLimpet/morgue-MrLimpet-20170419-222545.txt
04:44:51 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy
04:46:08 <gammafunk> !tell canofworms !lg mrlimpet fofi gozag tomb ; had about 40k gold at start of tomb:3, used bribe branch once the whole game
04:46:09 <Sequell> gammafunk: OK, I'll let canofworms know.
05:10:12 <Jorgrell> Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.20-a0-1035-gfcccd65 (34)
05:31:46 -!- buki_ is now known as buki
06:48:14 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_
07:27:49 <Lasty> %git dbd815ee
07:27:49 <Cheibriados> 07Lasty02 * 0.20-a0-639-gdbd815e: Refactor player MP regen rate into its own method 10(10 weeks ago, 3 files, 17+ 7-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/dbd815ee40b2
07:27:49 <Sequell> Lasty: You have 3 messages. Use !messages to read them.
07:36:15 <Lasty> !tell canofworms It wasn't an intentional nerf, but it looks like the prior version wasn't behaving as intended either, IIRC. It was effectively adding 30 MP worth of regen, but (IIRC) it was intended to add +50% mp regen. I think you're right that only at very high MP does it give equal mp regen now. Perhaps it's worth recpnsidering what the correct bonus is. Maybe it should gp back to +100%, as it originally was?
07:36:15 <Sequell> Maximum message length is 340 characters, but you had 401. Eschew verbosity, Gladys!
07:37:12 -!- Euph0ria is now known as OICU812
07:37:34 <Lasty> !tell canofworms Unintentional nerf, but because unintentional buff. It was adding 30 MP worth of regen, but (IIRC) it was intended to add +50% mp regen. I think you're right that only at very high MP does it give equal mp regen now. Perhaps it's worth recpnsidering what the correct bonus is. Maybe it should gp back to +100%, as it originally was?
07:37:34 <Sequell> Lasty: OK, I'll let canofworms know.
08:41:30 <advil> !crashlog
08:41:41 <Sequell> 17161. stickyfingers, XL17 KoEn, T:38215 (milestone): http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/trunk/stickyfingers/crash-stickyfingers-20170421-081838.txt
09:14:14 <advil> hmm, it actually seems like imprisoning over deep water could crash all the time
09:16:16 <advil> well, a lot of the time
09:17:53 <Cheibriados> The fastest way to gain Fedhas' favour 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=11026 by CALLOUS
09:26:17 <advil> that fedhas bug is very good
09:30:09 <advil> maybe I need to finally get a fed win before it gets fixed
09:30:22 <advil> (I do feel like fed piety is not in a great place, but this is perhaps not the solution)
09:39:27 <advil> and imprison vs deep water is a mess, if it's near the shore and there are items it'll succeed or crash depending on the wall order vs terrain, and if it's pure deep water it'll just fail if there are any items (even if the player can't see them)
09:41:09 <advil> there are probably other crashes depending on wall order vs terrain, basically if the only push target for items gets a wall in the process of imprisoning
09:44:22 <kramin> !greatplayer
09:44:25 <advil> so if the monster is flying over lava, next to two adjacent land spaces with a stone on one, and lava all around, for example, it should crash
09:44:28 <Sequell> Unwon species for kramin: Barachi, Gnoll
09:44:37 <kramin> need to stop adding more species dammit :P
09:44:49 <rumflump> don't worry, you have lifetime membership!
09:45:09 <kramin> haven't tried gnolls yet
09:45:48 <kramin> frogs seemed interesting, I died fairly quickly in all my attempts though :P
09:46:06 <rumflump> use ranged weapons
09:48:25 <kramin> hmm
09:48:32 <kramin> Ash seems good with gnolls?
10:04:46 <rumflump> I think people pick ash oka too much. the species is fine with or without skill help
10:04:57 <rumflump> go gozag or whatever
10:05:32 <rumflump> is pickaxe or bisect the thing you do to go back to a previous version of a git-tracked file that was working well?
10:05:48 <rumflump> or to find where you'd want to go back to, in the first place
10:19:57 <Cheibriados> help on fighting incorrectly states that it only effects melee accuracy 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=11027 by Artagas
10:24:15 -!- Dixie|hungry is now known as Dixie
10:24:27 <advil> also, secret tech: using imprison to push items out of deep water (when it doesn't crash)
10:49:16 <cyrus-and> hi there, APT complains that the crawl repo is not signed, is this a known issue or it's only me?
10:54:41 <|amethyst> cyrus-and:  did you do the apt-key add line?
10:54:51 <|amethyst> http://crawl.develz.org/download.htm#linux    wget https://crawl.develz.org/debian/pubkey -O - | sudo apt-key add -
10:55:52 <cyrus-and> |amethyst: yep and it appears in apt-key list
10:56:10 <|amethyst> hm
10:56:15 <|amethyst> not sure who built it last time
10:56:19 <cyrus-and> pub   rsa2048 2011-04-26 [SC] ...
10:56:46 <cyrus-and> FYI this is the first time I'm having this issue with crawl
10:57:11 <advil> interaction of multiple imprisons is very strange...I can get cases where nothing ends up imprisoned or monsters can apparently move through the walls, not really sure why
10:58:51 <cyrus-and> |amethyst: I can work around this, but I wanted to let you know
10:58:57 <|amethyst> thanks
10:59:06 <|amethyst> probably worth posting a bug report about it
10:59:09 <|amethyst> ??mantis
10:59:09 <Sequell> mantis[1/2]: To report bugs or submit new content like vaults, patches or tiles, go to: http://crawl.develz.org/mantis/main_page.php
11:00:55 <cyrus-and> I'll do
11:01:54 <advil> https://www.reddit.com/r/dcss/comments/66nplk/dcss_ios_port_permission_from_the_devs/
11:02:00 <advil> oh I guess you're on it |amethyst
11:02:06 <|amethyst> :)
11:02:37 <|amethyst> I posted a link to my response in the tavern thread (necroing it from a over year ago)
11:03:36 <advil> I'm a little surprised someone would ever do that without first scouting out the licensing issue
11:05:18 <|amethyst> apparently youtube video monetization also has license issues
11:06:28 <|amethyst> since videos are derived works of the games
11:06:36 <advil> are they?
11:06:49 <|amethyst> at least youtube assumes they are
11:07:17 <|amethyst> probably case law would support that
11:07:32 <advil> I guess it is the copyrighted material shown in the video
11:07:36 <advil> ?
11:07:37 <|amethyst> since a photograph of a building is a derived work of the building
11:07:41 <|amethyst> 1. the graphics
11:08:51 <advil> perhaps console streamers are ok
11:08:54 <|amethyst> well
11:09:16 <|amethyst> 2. possibly the code as well, since the gameplay is the main point of such videos, and the gameplay is produced by the code
11:09:19 <|amethyst> 3. the vaults
11:10:54 <|amethyst> Probably 2. you could argue against in court, since that is something better covered by patents
11:10:59 <advil> hmm
11:11:11 <advil> I definitely would not want to go to bat for 2 even if there are corporations that might
11:11:44 <|amethyst> the problem is that actually going to bat for or against 2 involves suing or being sued, and both cost money :)
11:12:11 <advil> well, I mean go to bat as in care :-P
11:12:24 <|amethyst> and then the decision being appealed, since a trial court decision doesn't set precedent
11:12:45 <|amethyst> (all this in the US)
11:13:52 <cyrus-and> |amethyst: well it seems that I cannot login anonymously to file an issue and I don't really want to create a new account
11:14:23 <|amethyst> maybe I should make a "robin" account for mantis
11:14:37 <|amethyst> or someone should
11:20:31 <|amethyst> cyrus-and:  log in as BugRobin, password BugRobin
11:21:00 <cyrus-and> OK
11:22:05 <|amethyst> !learn add BugRobin Account for filing bugs in Mantis without registering. Password is the same as username.
11:22:05 <Sequell> BugRobin[1/1]: Account for filing bugs in Mantis without registering. Password is the same as username.
11:26:57 <rumflump> robin passwords are usually "robin"?
11:27:29 <rumflump> ??cratecrawlrobin
11:27:30 <Sequell> cratecrawlrobin[1/1]: robin account where you play as normal, except when you're finished with D:20, go back to D:1 and exit the dungeon. Password is robin.
11:27:34 <rumflump> ??drugrobin
11:27:34 <Sequell> drugrobin[1/3]: Password: robin, do NOT play on this character unless you are intoxicated. Mild central stimulants such as caffeine do not count.
11:28:24 <cyrus-and> |amethyst: FYI https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=11028
11:30:39 <|amethyst> cyrus-and:  hm, that's really weird
11:30:51 <|amethyst> it says the signature is invalid
11:31:12 <|amethyst> I wonder if we're using some old deprecated crypto scheme
11:31:28 <cyrus-and> I guess that's a default message the real one is GPG complaining that the repo is not signed IMHO
11:34:37 <|amethyst> cyrus-and:  it lists the same key as is in your keyring though
11:35:08 <|amethyst> cyrus-and:  so it must be seeing the signature
11:44:53 <cyrus-and> |amethyst: yep, also deleting the pub key I get NO_PUBKEY ABD5C2C3C965A6F4 which is reasonable
11:45:48 <|amethyst> Maybe try re-adding the key to your keyring and see if that gives an error message with more information about why it's bad?
11:47:19 <cyrus-and> same error
11:54:02 <|amethyst> hm, maybe there's a verbose option?
11:55:34 <Cheibriados> 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.20-a0-1036-g4d371cd: No infinite Fedhas piety from worms (11026) 10(81 seconds ago, 1 file, 9+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4d371cd3bfdd
11:58:02 <cyrus-and> |amethyst: not that I know of
12:08:35 <cyrus-and> |amethyst: ok I tried to manually verify the signature, take a look https://pastebin.com/zZPFDGxq
12:09:25 <cyrus-and> my gpg-fu is not strong enough to understand the problem here but maybe you can find it useful
12:09:26 <Jorgrell> Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.20-a0-1036-g4d371cd (34)
12:57:19 <cyrus-and> |amethyst: long story short, you were right Release is signed with SHA1 which is now considered "untrusted" by apt (I've updated the issue)
13:07:11 <Henzell> Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.20-a0-1036-g4d371cd (34)
13:12:19 <|amethyst> cyrus-and:  Thanks, I edited the title too
13:14:17 <Jafet> very recently deprecated crypto
13:39:07 <Cheibriados> Need to re-sign Debian repository with a new key: SHA-1 is no longer accepted 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=11028 by BugRobin
13:44:26 <rumflump> no bloody way am I gonna merge e435b50518bcfedfd7818ea99595797372a63276
15:20:53 <rumflump> %git :/ [Aa]dd [Uu]skaya
15:20:54 <Cheibriados> Could not find commit :/ [Aa]dd [Uu]skaya (git returned 128)
15:21:05 <rumflump> %commit :/ [Aa]dd [Uu]skaya
15:21:49 <rumflump> %git ([Aa]dd|ntroduc) [Uu]skaya
15:21:49 <Cheibriados> Could not find commit ([Aa]dd|ntroduc) [Uu]skaya (git returned 128)
15:23:28 <geekosaur> it was Ukayaw back then
15:23:46 <geekosaur> ...then we got 3 consecutive bug reports confusing Ukayaw with Okawaru
15:23:54 <rumflump> aha!
15:24:00 <rumflump> %git ([Aa]dd|ntroduc) [Uu]kaya
15:24:00 <Cheibriados> Could not find commit ([Aa]dd|ntroduc) [Uu]kaya (git returned 128)
15:24:15 <|amethyst> %git :/party started
15:24:15 <Cheibriados> 07Lasty02 * 0.19-a0-205-g23faf3b: Ukayaw: get this party started 10(11 months ago, 30 files, 399+ 19-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/23faf3b4bf32
15:24:45 <rumflump> well, that answers the other question I had
15:25:05 <rumflump> do commits that add a new thing have a common searchable keyword a: no :)
15:25:10 <|amethyst> (that commit doesn't actually add the abilities, those come later)
15:25:23 <|amethyst> %git :/Add Ukayaw
15:25:23 <Cheibriados> 07Lasty02 * 0.19-a0-205-g23faf3b: Ukayaw: get this party started 10(11 months ago, 30 files, 399+ 19-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/23faf3b4bf32
15:25:33 <|amethyst> it's not universal, though
15:25:51 <geekosaur> hm, only BRE then?
15:26:03 <|amethyst> need :/
15:26:13 <geekosaur> oh right, missed they left that off
15:26:14 <|amethyst> %git :/([Aa]dd|ntroduc) [Uu]s?kayaw
15:26:14 <Cheibriados> 07Lasty02 * 0.19-a0-825-gf3a32ab: Add Uskayaw skill-invo interactions more clear on the powers screen (dpeg) 10(10 months ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f3a32ab84e04
15:26:24 <|amethyst> %git :/([Aa]dd|ntroduc) [Uu]kayaw
15:26:24 <Cheibriados> 07Lasty02 * 0.19-a0-205-g23faf3b: Ukayaw: get this party started 10(11 months ago, 30 files, 399+ 19-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/23faf3b4bf32
15:27:08 <|amethyst> not sure whether git uses ERE or something else
15:28:10 <|amethyst> --grep uses BRE by default, but :/foo and ^{/foo} appear to use something fancier
15:28:38 <|amethyst> man gitrevision doesn't say
15:29:42 <rumflump> so nearly got the search right!
16:14:15 <Cheibriados> Awoken Forest Stays Woke 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=11029 by Pekkekke
16:32:37 <advil> I spy a PF commit
16:33:12 <advil> rumflump: I usually have the best luck when I'm not actually sure what I'm looking for searching interactively in `git log` at the command line
17:24:57 <advil> static const long MARKERS_COOKY = 0x17742C32;
17:24:58 <advil> ok
17:27:33 <nikheizen> reminders me of fast square root
17:28:34 <nikheizen> s/er//
17:47:45 -!- reaverb_ is now known as reaverb
18:05:12 <Lantell> Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.20-a0-1036-g4d371cd (34)
18:15:50 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07* 0.20-a0-1037-g52b1666: checkwhite 10(7 hours ago, 1 file, 228+ 228-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/52b1666ea9a3
18:15:50 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07* 0.20-a0-1038-g16fac3a: Refactor get_push_space to fix some zin bugs 10(2 hours ago, 2 files, 79+ 45-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/16fac3a1874c
18:15:50 <Cheibriados> 03advil02 07* 0.20-a0-1039-gf554463: Prevent doors from being permanently unsealable 10(7 minutes ago, 2 files, 11+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f55446336bb7
19:09:23 <Jorgrell> Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.20-a0-1039-gf554463 (34)
20:25:15 <gammafunk> ??agony
20:25:16 <Sequell> agony[1/1]: Agony does to one living creature what Torment does to all living creatures in sight: halves its hit points, but never directly kills it. Unlike torment, however, agony does a magic resistance check and won't work on those with any negative energy resistance. Is more likely to work than other hexes at the same spellpower.
20:26:13 <gammafunk> ??torment
20:26:13 <Sequell> torment[1/3]: Effectively halves the current hit points of all living creatures in sight of the caster. Most undead have {torment immunity} (player vampires might not have it). Demonspawns might get {torment resistance} as a mutation when levelling up.
20:26:17 <gammafunk> ??torment[2
20:26:17 <Sequell> torment[2/3]: A overrated threat for extended. Do not fear: aside from {torment resistance} and {torment immunity}, one can use tactics outlined in https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=3443&#p43566 to deal with it.
20:26:21 <gammafunk> ??torment[3
20:26:21 <Sequell> torment[3/3]: Negative energy resistance reduces the damage percentage by 5% per level, so at rNeg+++ torment only takes 35% of your health.
20:27:32 <gammafunk> !learn edit agony s/on those/on monsters/
20:27:33 <Sequell> agony[1/1]: Agony does to one living creature what Torment does to all living creatures in sight: halves its hit points, but never directly kills it. Unlike torment, however, agony does a magic resistance check and won't work on monsters with any negative energy resistance. Is more likely to work than other hexes at the same spellpower.
20:30:45 <gammafunk> !learn edit agony s/$/ The player reduces the damage percent by 5 for each level of rN., so at rN+++ it takes 35% of your health./
20:30:45 <Sequell> ERROR: New text exceeds the maximum length of 375
20:32:02 <gammafunk> !learn add agony When cast against the player, he damage percent is reduced by 5 for each level of your rN, so at rN+++ it takes 35% of your health.
20:32:03 <Sequell> agony[2/2]: When cast against the player, he damage percent is reduced by 5 for each level of your rN, so at rN+++ it takes 35% of your health.
20:38:54 <Jafet> seems that rn+ also works for monsters
20:39:04 <Jafet> and kiku protection also works for agony
20:39:49 <Jafet> ??torment resistance
20:39:49 <Sequell> torment resistance[1/1]: Each level of rN reduces torment's damage by 10%, so at rN+++ you'll only lose 35% of your HP. In addition, demonspawn can get a torment resistance mutation (50% chance of 0 damage), Kiku gives torment resistance (average protection 60%) at high piety, and Statue Form or being a gargoyle reduces torment damage by half.
20:46:23 <Jafet> the torment crawlcode is interesting
20:46:48 <Jafet> kill_method_type type = KILLED_BY_BEAM;
20:47:08 <Jafet> also this line is curious
20:47:10 <Jafet> / Don't return, since you could be standing on a monster.
21:40:45 <espais> elliptic: noticed a possible issue with a qw ... in your random berserker combo list there's a HEBe.falchion entry...i didn't notice it until my code tripped an invalid combo error (i just pulled all those in without looking)
21:44:14 <elliptic> ah, yes, I haven't used that list in a while
21:49:41 <espais> i figured :)
22:02:37 <gammafunk> !learn edit agony[2] s/he damage/the damage/
22:02:37 <Sequell> agony[2/2]: When cast against the player, the damage percent is reduced by 5 for each level of your rN, so at rN+++ it takes 35% of your health.
22:12:05 <ProzacElf> he-damage!
23:46:56 <Cheibriados> Makhleb healing not shown as active in religion screen 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=11030 by karv