00:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00:06 -!- exant has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:00:13 a-muzing 00:00:36 it's also broken in windows explorer :D 00:00:45 yeah it's broken in everything 00:00:50 there's an extra 00:01:10 I'm now just trying to make sure that I'm completely confident I'm deleting the correct one 00:01:10 divs have plagued webtiles 00:01:12 for a long, long time 00:02:54 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:03:30 Pleasingfungus: imo, the only proposal that qualifies as "extremely minmayish" is proposing to an elf 00:03:54 _intensely_ minmayish? 00:04:30 -*_intensely_*- 00:05:18 this will fix it: http://sprunge.us/OFfP 00:06:23 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.20-a0-681-gf83e07f: Fix webtiles, hopefully (advil) 10(19 seconds ago, 1 file, 0+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f83e07ff5564 00:06:30 geoffrax: what server are you on? 00:07:13 I think I've only seen one server update so far this evening 00:07:24 thankfully 00:07:35 (but really not even that b/c marriage is a tool of the patriarchy and i would never perpetuate it) 00:08:05 SPICY takes 00:08:50 specificaly I've only seen CJR update 00:09:18 cjr updates on.. the hour? 00:09:25 the other servers are on 24 hour updates 00:09:27 ??rebuild 00:09:27 rebuild[1/2]: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rebuild/ http://underhound.eu:81/rebuild/ http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/rebuild/ http://crawl.xtahua.com/rebuild/ https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/rebuild/ Bug |amethyst or Nap.Kin for CDO. Use your powers wisely. 00:09:31 er 00:09:32 CPO - https://crawl.project357.org/ 00:09:34 ??rebuild[2 00:09:34 rebuild[2/2]: Trunk update start times in UTC (second number during summer time): CAO: 1700; CDO: 0600/0500; CLAN: 2300/2200; CBRO: 0800/0700; CXC: 0500/0400; CPO: every 15 minutes; CJR: every hour 00:09:45 please don't start a mass rebuild 00:09:54 no, I wanted the update times 00:09:59 ya i figured 00:10:03 that was for others in the channel 00:10:09 I refuse to touch server stuff 00:10:13 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.20-a0-680-g5c496f5 (34) 00:10:14 I have my code and I'm happy with it 00:10:20 I don't want to know networking stuff 00:10:26 the others it'd be pointless since they won't see either commit for several hours yyet 00:10:43 nice cjr just missing the bugfix :p 00:10:48 heh, every 15 minutes 00:10:53 that's ambitious 00:11:06 CPO could probably be reduced but alexjurkiewicz enjoys being up-to-date 00:11:15 it's nice to have a bellwether for problems, too 00:11:18 yes 00:11:19 as in this case :) 00:11:39 !learn edit rebuild[2] s/CLAN/CUE/ 00:11:39 rebuild[2/2]: Trunk update start times in UTC (second number during summer time): CAO: 1700; CDO: 0600/0500; CUE: 2300/2200; CBRO: 0800/0700; CXC: 0500/0400; CPO: every 15 minutes; CJR: every hour 00:11:41 how is silence on the noise meter displayed btw? a special color? 00:11:52 I wonder if we'll get a fourth American server 00:11:53 it overwrites the meter with (Sil) in magenta 00:11:58 meter goes away 00:11:58 cool 00:11:59 feels like there's room for a Northwestern server 00:12:03 do you have space to say (Silence)? 00:12:06 i suppose maybe not... 00:12:10 or maybe a Brasilian servre 00:12:12 (Silent) 00:12:14 s/re/er 00:12:18 why northwestern? 00:12:20 maybe without the parens 00:12:31 arizona (CAO) seems fairly far away from vancouver/seattle 00:12:37 I feel like I've had this conversation before 00:12:40 hmm there would be space in non-wizmode, it's a 9-char wide bar 00:12:40 yes 00:12:46 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:12:51 someone was talking about a PNW server at one point 00:12:55 and as we said last time, ping times aren't that strongly correlated with geography 00:13:00 yeah 00:13:04 I'm remembering now 00:13:27 though one would have to check the exact spacing in webtiles since that works slightly differently 00:13:29 my ping to cao is preeetty bad 00:13:32 I think people might like to have a cjr alternative since cjr is a bit weird 00:13:35 where are you @ Kramin? 00:13:41 new zealand :P 00:13:41 cszo..... 00:13:59 well kramin is using cpo 00:14:04 (I hope) 00:14:04 I did used to play on cao when I first started online :) 00:14:21 you have plenty of time to think your moves through 00:14:29 maybe its an advantage.. 00:14:33 the thing is cjr just has very few users and I don't think that's really related to cjr's memes 00:14:37 my friend complained to me that he nearly died to Jorgrun because of CJR's unique cursor 00:14:45 haha 00:14:45 and he thought it was just the cursor and not actually Jorgrun 00:14:47 but rather that we have no infrastructure to really direct people to specific servers 00:14:57 cjr unreasons 00:14:58 the home page makes some effort but it's basically "play where you want" 00:15:02 (one of the many) 00:15:10 cjr is so good 00:15:11 -!- HeithinnGrasida has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 00:15:12 I play on CJR specifically because of the favorable ping 00:15:22 but I'm highly informed 00:15:26 compared to the average crawl player 00:15:29 -!- HeithinnGrasida has joined ##crawl-dev 00:16:07 could the play page ping the servers 00:16:16 and display that? 00:16:23 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 00:16:23 http://crawl.develz.org/play.htm 00:17:13 looking at this list 00:17:15 we could use a SEA server 00:17:25 and maybe South American and Eastern European 00:17:28 but ofc distance != ping 00:17:42 so hey the map is back to where it is supposed to be! I'm reckoning that update just hit? 00:17:49 geoffrax, are you on CJR? 00:17:49 I think cue and cxc together don't have very many users 00:17:52 or CPO? 00:17:54 Thank goodness for 15 min updates 00:17:57 aussie server or japan should be ok for SEA? 00:17:59 CPO it is then 00:18:05 CPO is all better 00:18:13 wasn't there someone in, like, thailand? asking for a server the other day? 00:18:14 yea and cwz and lld and cpo are all pretty available 00:18:32 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 00:18:40 I think in some of those countries, nothing will do much unless it's in their country 00:18:44 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 00:18:52 man, it'll be interesting when Africa gets full internet linkage and games/networks start having to deal with Ghana/Somalia/South Africa locations 00:19:01 -!- woodjrx has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:19:01 Kyzrati was saying how servers really need to be in taiwan to help with latency 00:19:02 That continent's very dark atm 00:19:21 Same for India, really 00:20:01 fr: make india a continent 00:20:05 SUB 00:23:10 -!- DrKe has joined ##crawl-dev 00:23:31 Anyways, cheers guys for fixing that. I went and died in a volcano 00:24:05 teamwork! 00:24:07 thanks for reporting, glad that showed up before I went to sleep :-) 00:24:17 collaboration! 00:24:31 -!- woodjrx has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:25:19 minmay, you're a few million years late for that :p 00:28:45 born too late to explore pangaea, born too early to explore the galaxy, born just in time to dream about cuddling with DCSS uniques 00:30:21 -!- orbisvicis has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:30:21 +Yeah! 00:30:25 -!- rumflump has joined ##crawl-dev 00:31:35 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.20-a0-680-g5c496f5 (34) 00:31:39 DONT JUST YEAH IT 00:32:21 I've read enough scifi to know that exploring the galaxy would be absolutely horrifying to our early 21st century minds 00:32:37 (ob https://xkcd.com/1449/) 00:33:18 exploring the galaxy, unless you don't mind staying in the outer system, will be too slow for anyone to deal with 00:33:23 FTL's the *easy* part 00:33:37 it's the technology we'll come up with that's the scary part 00:37:08 -!- woodjrx has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:39:45 -!- Awod has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:44:06 -!- sneakyness has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:44:43 -!- sneakyness has joined ##crawl-dev 00:50:09 -!- destroythecore has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:10:13 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.20-a0-681-gf83e07f (34) 01:20:00 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.20-a0-681-gf83e07f (34) 01:31:49 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 01:38:12 -!- sneakyness has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:38:45 -!- sneakyness has joined ##crawl-dev 01:46:21 -!- Pleasingfungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.93 [Firefox 51.0.1/20170125094131]] 01:46:21 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:48:18 -!- bgiannan_ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:48:23 -!- laj1 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:49:51 Mini-map is off the screen 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10943 by nubinia 01:50:19 -!- laj1 has joined ##crawl-dev 01:50:53 -!- JoeltCo has quit [Quit: Quitting] 01:54:25 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:56:34 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.20-a0-681-gf83e07f 02:00:11 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:10:17 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:11:11 -!- laj1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:12:20 -!- laj1 has joined ##crawl-dev 02:14:41 -!- Enthusiasm has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:18:26 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 02:26:38 -!- waat has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:34:23 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 02:35:49 -!- laj1 has quit [Read error: No route to host] 02:36:11 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:40:12 -!- laj1 has joined ##crawl-dev 02:44:18 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 02:50:02 -!- laj1 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:52:02 -!- laj1 has joined ##crawl-dev 02:54:02 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.20-a0-681-gf83e07f 02:56:01 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:56:29 -!- DrKe has joined ##crawl-dev 02:58:41 -!- bgiannan_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:00:41 -!- ArseElementalist has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:05:27 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 03:07:22 -!- laj1 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:10:34 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 03:23:19 Experimental (councilgod-PR) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.20-a0-680-g4833209 03:36:34 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.20-a0-681-gf83e07f (34) 03:41:15 -!- mong has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.4] 03:41:54 -!- LordSloth has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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I just want to ask, do you plan some kind of buff for the Trog? 06:10:56 It seems to me that the Trog is designed to be the ultimate non-magical melee god. 06:13:51 But it looks like Okawaru, Makhleb and TSO work better. Especially for 15 runes. And they do not limit the player to use magic. 06:18:25 I'm not sure what you can do with it, but I would suggest to replace the Trog's Hand with some passive bonus(MR, +Regen, RF, RC,RPoison, RElec, etc). 06:19:37 Trog's Hand is expensive and not very effective. 06:22:29 You can compensate Trog's power with the fact that Trog will have a chance to instantly kill the renegade. 06:24:30 And I could offer to get the artifact weapons immediately as a gift after burning artifact books. 06:26:51 I think something like this can make Trog the best choice for the non-magic 15 runes run. 06:30:34 -!- mibe has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:35:20 Today, the Trog is the 3-runes-rush-god. 06:36:33 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:40:32 Trog is a kind of a cheat, because he does not provide the true barbaric power instead of magic. 06:44:25 Besides, his wrath is more dangerous compared to Okawaru or TSO. 06:46:43 But I have to go, thank you for your attention! I hope you read this. 06:47:27 -!- oops has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:56:13 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:58:02 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:58:26 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 07:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:04:24 -!- Suga_H has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:12:42 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 07:13:19 -!- Fixer has joined ##crawl-dev 07:14:56 -!- Patashu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:18:11 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 07:22:56 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:26:08 re: ijc stuff in backlog, i definitely do think the cardinal-only bit of lunge isn't great, would be nice (but probably tricky-ish) to fix that somehow 07:27:03 MarvinPA: I considered making it work in knight's move too 07:27:09 but it breaks the symmetry in a somewhat annoying way 07:27:37 unless I want it to be AoE too, but then I'm concerned about it being too strong 07:28:34 could reduce the damage bonus proportionally in those cases, although then it gets more complicated again... 07:28:46 Is there any argument towards why the cardinal restriction is bad? 07:28:55 I think it forces you to reposition, I'm personally okay with it 07:29:05 and it's intuitive, attack in a straight line 07:32:05 it's not like the repositioning is an actually interesting restriction, it just very arbitrarily forces you to kite and approach things in certain specific ways 07:32:45 and there's no good reason for those types of movement to be functionally better 07:34:18 similar to the reasoning for changing to squarelos, where you'd always want to approach monsters on a diagonal for stabbing, or on a cardinal for ranged attacks 07:34:25 (under circlelos) 07:44:27 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:44:51 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 07:50:46 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:55:25 <|amethyst> oh, I had thought lunge worked on the diagonal 08:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:00:23 -!- Pacra_ has joined ##crawl-dev 08:00:28 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:01:54 <|amethyst> confusing headline of the day "Japan Unveils Next-Generation, Pascal-Based AI Supercomputer" 08:10:06 |amethyst: it does work on diagonals yeah, i had the wrong wording there initially - the problem is it not working on in-between stuff (ie monster is a knight's-move from you, so you have to kite it a sqaure to get it to be lined up right) 08:10:25 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:11:03 so then the potential problem with fixing that is that each lunge has 3 potential target squares instead of 1 08:13:03 <|amethyst> MarvinPA: ah... I don't think that's worse than, say, not being able to bizap a monster who's in a hallway with you by aiming at the wall at a 22.5� angle 08:13:10 re: the problem with repositioning 08:13:13 it can be interesting ocasionally 08:13:29 because if you can't lunge at the present moment, it's possible you can wall jump and then lunge 08:13:44 or whilwind against something and lunge aftewards 08:14:06 <|amethyst> MarvinPA: crawl is played on a grid, and (with all due respect to IOOD) it's not a huge sin to admit that in the mechanics 08:14:07 I don't know, I feel that having a more straight forward lunge would lead to less situations like this, although I admit for simple cases (i.e. one enemy) it's often solved by taking a diagonal step back 08:14:43 (I just realized how misleading "straight forward" is in this context, I meant the knight's move compatible lunge) 08:15:28 -!- SketchFile has quit [Quit: peace] 08:18:00 <|amethyst> and, yeah, it would pretty much have to be AOE, unless you made the attack itself require a second button press 08:19:02 <|amethyst> SteelNeuron: btw, have you played Brogue and/or Sil? 08:19:25 I haven't gotten around to it yet! I've been reading the Sil manual lately though to see how it handled some things 08:19:27 it might be that the current behaviour is still simpler overall anyway, yeah 08:19:29 It was an interesting read 08:19:45 What I took inspiration from was mostly Crypt of the Necrodancer actually :) 08:20:02 <|amethyst> I like the sil manual because it tells you how to play Sil with your tabletop RPG group 08:20:18 <|amethyst> not directly, but it gives you all the dice rolls :) 08:20:24 <|amethyst> just need a monster manual 08:20:51 as long as you have lots of d9s lying around :P 08:20:57 -!- Alarkh has joined ##crawl-dev 08:22:51 Hi there, i'm not sure if you have already seen that, but there is a graphic bug (map no more showing) on tiles trunk, maybe due to the change in layout with the new noise bar (which i like a lot :) ) 08:23:00 <|amethyst> %git 08:23:00 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.20-a0-681-gf83e07f: Fix webtiles, hopefully (advil) 10(8 hours ago, 1 file, 0+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f83e07ff5564 08:23:04 <|amethyst> Alarkh: which server? 08:23:14 xtahua 08:23:22 <|amethyst> &versions 08:23:32 CAO: 0.20-a0-672-gd6c3c51, CBRO: 0.20-a0-681-gf83e07f, CDO: 0.20-a0-681-gf83e07f, CJR: 0.20-a0-681-gf83e07f, CPO: 0.20-a0-680-g5c496f5, CUE: 0.20-a0-641-g673355a, CWZ: none, CXC: 0.20-a0-680-g5c496f5, LLD: 0.20-a0-618-gbb8d3ca 08:23:49 <|amethyst> Alarkh: rebuilding now, let's see if that fixes it 08:24:17 that was fast, thanks :o 08:24:34 <|amethyst> Alarkh: well, it will take a little while for the rebuild to finish 08:25:09 All of this has made me want to start work on a personal roguelike project :) 08:25:10 (i mean your reaction time to launch a new build) 08:25:16 <|amethyst> Alarkh: :) 08:26:07 -!- johnny0 has quit [Quit: leaving] 08:26:27 -!- johnny0 has joined ##crawl-dev 08:28:54 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.20-a0-681-gf83e07f (34) 08:29:54 -!- jeefus has joined ##crawl-dev 08:31:01 <|amethyst> Alarkh: try it now, and make sure you transfer your game to the latest version when it asks 08:32:54 -!- waat has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 08:33:40 -!- jefus- has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:34:10 |amethyst: That's good now for the map, though i was a bit surprised by the gold displayed on top right (near "Mummy of Gozag"). Is it intended/not that important/still a bug ? 08:34:43 And gold is still displayed here i mean 08:36:23 <|amethyst> Alarkh: it's intentional that it shows there under Gozag 08:37:07 Alarkh: it's in place of piety 08:37:16 <|amethyst> since the noise meter replaced the usual gold display 08:37:35 I was thinking that it could be reformatted somehow for the piety slot, I just stuck with the way it was formatted in its original position 08:37:50 oh ok 08:38:10 other characters just won't see gold on the HUD any more 08:38:24 i see 08:38:30 so I guess on a new character it would be a little clearer since it would show up when you join gozag 08:45:16 oh also, that bugfix just removes a spurious "" from game.html so I'm not sure it even needs a save transfer 08:46:10 although I guess maybe that's part of the save? I have no idea how that works 08:47:06 in fact, I guess it must be, or changes to the javascript would really screw things up for trunk players 08:47:08 never mind 08:47:24 -!- HeithinnGrasida has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:47:46 -!- HeithinnGrasida has joined ##crawl-dev 08:49:07 -!- geoffrax has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:49:32 On a different subject, I was thinking about an "autoattack until something happens" macro/option : the idea would be to keep on auto-attacking until i take damage, a new monsters appears, etc. 08:49:37 1) Can that be done with macros 2) if that can't be done with macros, could it be accepted in crawl ? It is maybe getting to close to a bot, i'm not sure about crawl philosophy on that one. 08:49:39 <|amethyst> advil: the binary gets rebuilt because the new git revision causes a change to version.h 08:50:02 |amethyst: but how does it store versions for game.html / player.js etc? 08:50:17 <|amethyst> advil: each version has its own directory 08:50:20 ohh 08:50:29 that uh does make perfect sense now that you say it 08:50:45 lots of directories though 08:50:50 <|amethyst> Alarkh: it could be done with a macro plus lua 08:50:55 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:50:57 it sounds like something you could do in lua, i don't think it would be included as a standard autofight feature 08:51:00 -!- bgiannan_ has joined ##crawl-dev 08:51:50 <|amethyst> advil: there's a cron job to remove directories that don't contain any saves, but yeah, it does build up 08:52:18 Ok thanks 08:53:00 <|amethyst> advil: CAO has 1475 such directories for trunk 08:54:01 so maybe like 1G of builds? I guess they are probably smaller than my build directory 08:54:25 <|amethyst> advil: more than 1G because the binaries are huge 08:56:34 hmm, it looks something weird broke with redrawing god titles on abandonment 08:56:57 abandoning some gods (but not others?) doesn't redraw them 08:57:19 hm, is it transient (fixed by clearing the screen somehow)? 08:57:31 yes, the problem is just not redrawing when you take the action 08:57:57 tso, zin, gozag don't redraw at a glance, but chei does 08:58:09 got to head out for a bit though, will try and look into it some more later 08:58:12 <|amethyst> abandoning chei changes your stats 08:58:16 maybe more "you.update_title" needed? I added it in places 08:58:19 <|amethyst> which is presumably why that causes a redraw? 08:58:34 but only added it for gozag cases 08:59:34 <|amethyst> advil: (I'm trying to find out how big that directory is, but du is still running...) 08:59:39 heh 08:59:50 all the tvs? 08:59:57 <|amethyst> no, those are elsewhere 09:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:00:47 <|amethyst> it's just data files, webtiles game_data, saves, milestones/logs, and (in a different directory) binaries 09:01:24 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:01:31 <|amethyst> anything that's available for download is in different directories 09:02:06 <|amethyst> (morgues, ttyrecs, rcfiles) 09:02:26 sorry, redraw_title, not update_title 09:07:03 !!source religion.cc:2886 09:07:14 !source religion.cc:2886 09:07:15 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/religion.cc#L2886 09:08:24 <|amethyst> moving that down a line looks promising 09:08:26 !tell MarvinPA_ moving the redraw_screen() at religion.cc:2886 out of the #ifdef will fix excommunication, I'm not sure exactly why a redraw wouldn't happen (you.redraw_title is actually set) but it isn't happening 09:08:27 advil: OK, I'll let marvinpa_ know. 09:08:32 yeah |amethyst, just tested 09:09:05 it's a bit puzzling to me that that would be needed there 09:09:10 <|amethyst> advil: oh, that du finally finished 09:09:11 but _input ordering is sometimes puzzling 09:09:17 <|amethyst> 70G /chroot/crawl-master/ 09:09:17 <|amethyst> 33G /chroot/usr/games/ 09:09:17 <|amethyst> 102G total 09:09:20 oh wow 09:09:31 <|amethyst> CAO has been around the longest of all the servers 09:09:47 <|amethyst> though CDO might have more, because it had trunk before CAO did 09:10:15 so for each trunk cycle every build is saved then? 09:10:20 <|amethyst> and /usr/games would be about 10x bigger, but we went through and stripped the old trunk binaries when it was running low on disk space 09:10:31 <|amethyst> advil: they get deleted eventually if no one has a save under that version 09:10:55 <|amethyst> advil: but even one player who started a game and then quit playing is enough to keep the version around forever :) 09:11:38 heh, super long-term attack tech 09:18:59 -!- Basil is now known as Guest56359 09:19:02 -!- Dix has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:19:40 -!- laj1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:21:37 -!- laj1 has joined ##crawl-dev 09:25:02 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:32:14 -!- cmcbot has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:32:14 -!- Pacra_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:32:15 -!- Pacra__ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:43:52 -!- laj1 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:45:36 -!- laj1 has joined ##crawl-dev 09:47:36 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:54:47 !lg * cao 09:54:48 2367301. GetYeFlask the Cleaver (L8 MiMo of Makhleb), blasted by a steam dragon (ball of steam) on D:6 (kennysheep_steamy) on 2017-02-18 14:52:06, with 1666 points after 3684 turns and 0:06:07. 09:55:00 2.37M games 09:58:16 <|amethyst> gammafunk: checking number of theoretically-alive games 09:58:24 <|amethyst> gammafunk: might take a few minutes 09:58:33 heh, I like "theoretically alive" 09:59:02 <|amethyst> some of them are in directories for stable versions that are no longer offered on CAO 09:59:08 !lg * s=src 09:59:16 6875187 games for *: 2367304x cao, 1263784x cszo, 1044425x cdo, 592988x cwz, 538260x cbro, 403333x cue, 282427x cxc, 178317x ckr, 72829x cpo, 52037x cjr, 45519x lld, 24437x rhf, 9527x csn 09:59:25 <|amethyst> !lg * src=cao alive 09:59:26 Unknown field: verb 09:59:27 -!- laj1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:59:33 <|amethyst> oh right 09:59:38 <|amethyst> !lm * alive s=gid 09:59:40 <|amethyst> err 09:59:42 <|amethyst> !lm * alive x=gid 10:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:00:03 106531 milestones for * (alive): 1436x casual:cxc:20160513223020S, 959x aredel:cue:20160413120038S, 511x aredel:cue:20160506151926S, 483x Dusty:cbro:20161005230627S, 445x Crackermeal:cbro:20160926222405S, 391x veblen:cao:20160729211849S, 386x HonorKnight:cwz:20161116164819S, 346x mrmyers:cao:20160429004827S, 341x protopulse:cbro:20161002022412S, 327x An:cao:20160830175242S, 326x willhelm:cao:20170... 10:00:18 106531. [2017-02-18 14:58:34] [game_key=MrChinwatt:cao:20170118143718S] MrChinwatt the Zephyrmancer (L11 VSAE of Vehumet) left the Lair of Beasts on turn 8666. (Lair:1) 10:00:29 <|amethyst> lm * cao alive x=cdist(gid) 10:00:31 <|amethyst> !lm * cao alive x=cdist(gid) 10:00:46 31397 milestones for * (cao alive): cdist(game_key)=5522 10:01:31 -!- laj1 has joined ##crawl-dev 10:03:17 <|amethyst> 29265 .cs files 10:03:36 <|amethyst> that also includes sprint and zotdef 10:03:38 the excommunication redraw thing is coming from the noise meter stuff, but I haven't worked out how yet 10:05:23 <|amethyst> advil: btw, I just noticed this comment 10:05:28 <|amethyst> you.los_noise_last_turn = 0; // silence in death 10:05:29 <|amethyst> ♥ 10:05:33 :-) 10:08:24 -!- laj1 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 10:10:16 -!- laj1 has joined ##crawl-dev 10:12:02 oh I bet I got it 10:12:17 there was an else case that was implicitly relying on clear_to_end_of_line that I didn't spot 10:12:51 <|amethyst> ah, so it was being redrawn, but the old title wasn't being overwritten? 10:13:08 <|amethyst> in that case switching from one god (with a long title) to another should give a mix of both messages 10:13:13 <|amethyst> s/messages/titles/ 10:13:15 yeah 10:13:32 well not to the second 10:13:39 it's the GOD_NO_GOD case 10:13:42 <|amethyst> ah 10:13:59 I'm going to restructure that if so it's clearer 10:15:08 so the convention is "else" on its own line? 10:15:13 with braces 10:15:29 03|amethyst02 07* 0.20-a0-682-g666c526: Checkwhite for "French" spacing. 10(23 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/666c526d3eaa 10:15:35 <|amethyst> advil: yeah, braces in control structures always go on their own lines 10:16:23 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 10:16:42 -!- Pacra__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:17:21 <|amethyst> advil: also, if both the condition and the body fit onto a single line (each), drop the braces 10:17:40 <|amethyst> advil: so this 10:17:46 <|amethyst> else if (level < 1000) 10:17:46 <|amethyst> { 10:17:46 <|amethyst> noisecolour = RED; 10:17:46 <|amethyst> } else { 10:17:48 <|amethyst> noisecolour = LIGHTMAGENTA; 10:17:51 <|amethyst> } 10:17:53 <|amethyst> becomes this: 10:17:57 <|amethyst> else if (level < 1000) 10:17:57 <|amethyst> noisecolour = RED; 10:17:57 <|amethyst> else 10:17:59 <|amethyst> noisecolour = LIGHTMAGENTA; 10:18:06 ok -- yeah that one was because at some point I had more code in those conditions 10:18:18 I have been running unbrace/checkwhite 10:18:21 <|amethyst> yeah, I'm not entirely happy with that rule 10:18:33 <|amethyst> advil: yeah, I see that unbrace isn't catching the } else { stuff 10:18:55 <|amethyst> I might need to try to figure out that regexp again 10:19:09 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:19:17 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 10:19:40 <|amethyst> advil: also, if you're editing docs too, you probably want checkwhite -a 10:19:56 <|amethyst> advil: the -a tells it to check the whole repo, not just your current directory and subdirectories 10:20:00 ah 10:20:12 <|amethyst> unbrace also takes -a but that's less relevant 10:20:45 yeah, french spacing is not my thing by default 10:22:11 <|amethyst> Yeah, my commit messages all have ". ", and I have to remember to run checkwhite if I write a long comment or documentation :) 10:23:02 <|amethyst> I should look into trying to teach clang-format our style 10:23:24 <|amethyst> and/or say "screw it" and switch the style guide to whatever we can approximate with clang-format 10:24:28 -!- laj1 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:26:10 -!- laj1 has joined ##crawl-dev 10:27:06 <|amethyst> I learned to type right at the end of the time that double-spacing after full stop was standard practice in the US 10:27:39 <|amethyst> late 80s to early 90s 10:27:55 that's when I learned to type too 10:28:10 and as a practical matter I mostly write in latex which takes care of stuff like that for you anyways 10:31:28 wow, the line after that redraw screen bit is quite something 10:31:32 !source religion.cc:2890 10:31:33 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/religion.cc#L2890 10:31:48 2891, rather 10:32:02 MarvinPA_: I'm about to submit a PR to fix that 10:32:09 I had missed an implicit else case in output.cc 10:32:20 oh that is good 10:32:23 <|amethyst> advil: oh, and M-a and M-e I think still default to treating ". " without another space as not the end of a sentence 10:32:27 <|amethyst> advil: in emacs 10:32:32 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 10:32:38 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Client Quit] 10:32:41 -!- MarvinPA_ is now known as MarvinPA 10:33:17 MarvinPA: moving the redraw in religion would fix it but by masking a bug in output.cc 10:33:48 <|amethyst> advil: MarvinPA is pointing at something different 10:33:56 yeah, i was just appreciating the Evil hack 10:34:12 ok, just making sure, it was the line after the thing I linked earlier 10:34:23 <|amethyst> learned_something_new gets a god and piety as a coord_def 10:34:26 that's how i came across it :) 10:34:49 <|amethyst> hm, has that been on @crawlcode yet? 10:35:32 -!- laj1 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 10:35:40 <|amethyst> ah, yes, 14 Oct 2015 10:35:49 heh, nice 10:35:51 augh I did this in the wrong repo 10:36:26 <|amethyst> advil: remember the commit hash, reset, switch, and git cherry-pick 10:36:43 <|amethyst> oh, different repo, not just branch 10:36:54 yeah, clone of master instead of my fork, I'll just apply the patch 10:38:09 <|amethyst> advil: btw, if you make the patch with git format-patch and then apply it with git am, you can use "git am -3" to handle conflicts better 10:38:22 <|amethyst> not that you're likely to have conflicts 10:38:26 oh thanks, that's a good tip 10:38:51 <|amethyst> I think "git diff" and "git apply -3" work the same way 10:39:49 <|amethyst> but I guess that just has blob hashes, not commit hashes, so I don't know if it can deduce as much 10:41:55 -!- laj1 has joined ##crawl-dev 10:43:59 -!- Pacra_ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:44:16 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:46:33 New branch created: pull/462 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/462 10:46:33 03=advil02 {advil} 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/462 * 0.20-a0-682-g75061a1: Fix display on excommunication 10(15 minutes ago, 2 files, 19+ 11-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/75061a1b1ac1 10:46:51 oops, I messed up the author amend 10:46:56 let me fix that 10:46:58 wow, I really wanted to use the word "case" in that commit message 10:48:43 so many small things I missed 10:49:06 <|amethyst> l'esprit de l'escalier 10:50:06 -!- epsilonhalbe has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:51:43 03advil02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/462 * 0.20-a0-682-gf680874: Fix display on excommunication 10(20 minutes ago, 2 files, 19+ 11-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f68087443b3b 10:51:58 I realize the code guidelines recommend against nested ifs but the one this was replacing was rather confusing, so hopefully it's ok 10:53:24 it's fine for cases like that usually, yeah 10:53:26 <|amethyst> I think an if-else inside an if is fine 10:53:36 <|amethyst> or an if inside an if-else 10:53:50 <|amethyst> but just if inside if is unnecessary 10:53:55 https://www.reddit.com/r/dcss/comments/5ubmr8/the_effect_on_winrate_of_which_two_sbranches_you/ 10:54:02 oh heh, i was just working on the wizmode gold thing too 10:54:34 yeah, I spotted it while testing excommunication, probably doing the same things 10:55:21 -!- Pacra_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:55:25 -!- Pacra__ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:55:35 <|amethyst> Brannock: from a commenter: "My guess is a large portion of those players are Mummies, for whom Spider is a deathtrap" 10:55:48 <|amethyst> ah, yes, mummy, the most popular race in Crawl 10:55:52 haha 10:55:54 <|amethyst> easily 20% of all games 10:56:01 <|amethyst> !lg * cao / mummy 10:56:03 this graph is really weird 10:56:04 105819/2367325 games for * (cao): N=105819/2367325 (4.47%) 10:56:06 <|amethyst> !lg * / mummy 10:56:09 277502/6875279 games for *: N=277502/6875279 (4.04%) 10:56:16 it represents 11.9% as visually half as large as 12.8% 10:58:52 hm yeah those are tiny differences 10:58:52 -!- Pacra__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:59:04 -!- Pacra__ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:00:43 !lm * recentish br.enter=swamp|spider|snake|shoals urune=0 turns>15000 x=avg(xl) 11:01:08 I'd be rather surprised if any o f that survived significance testing 11:02:13 90s limit exceeded: killed !lm * recentish br.enter=swamp|spider|snake|shoals urune=0 turns>15000 x=avg(xl) 11:02:17 <|amethyst> probably "spider is easier than swamp" would :) 11:02:48 <|amethyst> err 11:02:51 !lm * br.enter=swamp|snake|spider|shoals xl>=13 xl<=18 urune=0 turns>15000 s=br o=% / lg:br=$noun 11:02:56 <|amethyst> "shoals is harder than swamp", rather 11:02:58 59770/275861 milestones for * (br.enter=swamp|snake|spider|shoals xl>=13 xl<=18 urune=0 turns>15000): 12747/47252x Shoals [26.98%], 17690/81104x Snake [21.81%], 12976/62193x Spider [20.86%], 16344/82359x Swamp [19.84%], 13/2953x Lair [0.44%] 11:03:21 !lm * br.enter=swamp|snake|spider|shoals xl>=15 xl<=20 urune=1 turns>15000 s=br o=% / lg:br=$noun 11:03:26 9941/90605 milestones for * (br.enter=swamp|snake|spider|shoals xl>=15 xl<=20 urune=1 turns>15000): 4083/31793x Shoals [12.84%], 2412/21537x Snake [11.20%], 1938/18792x Spider [10.31%], 1507/18465x Swamp [8.16%], 1/18x Lair [5.56%] 11:04:11 not sure why some of those have lair, but yeah, the answer will be much different if you look at first rune vs. second 11:05:13 <|amethyst> gammafunk: I think there was a brief time when br.enter got br=the old branch, and you had to look at the noun 11:05:21 I see 11:05:29 should just filter out lair if I do that query again 11:05:31 <|amethyst> !lm * br.enter=swamp|snake|spider|shoals xl>=13 xl<=18 urune=0 turns>15000 s=noun o=% / lg:br=$noun 11:05:38 59770/275861 milestones for * (br.enter=swamp|snake|spider|shoals xl>=13 xl<=18 urune=0 turns>15000): 12750/47264x Shoals [26.98%], 17691/81117x Snake [21.81%], 12984/65112x Spider [19.94%], 16345/82368x Swamp [19.84%] 11:06:11 or do that 11:06:27 also that's looking back for all versions 11:06:28 I guess what that graph must be representing (if anything) is that spider/shoals is a pair where it's not obvious which branch to do first, for the other pairs there's a clear better branch to do first 11:06:37 -!- laj1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:06:38 s/not/less 11:07:18 !lm * recentish br.enter=swamp|snake|spider|shoals xl>=13 xl<=18 urune=1|2 turns>15000 s=urune,noun o=% / lg:br=$noun 11:07:20 that doesn't really mesh with my subjective experience but then the effect size if there is one is still quite small 11:07:23 4387/34545 milestones for * (recentish br.enter=swamp|snake|spider|shoals xl>=13 xl<=18 urune=1|2 turns>15000): 40/281x 2 (15/84x Shoals [17.86%], 8/52x Swamp [15.38%], 11/80x Snake [13.75%], 6/65x Spider [9.23%]), 4347/34264x 1 (1655/11032x Shoals [15.00%], 1063/8272x Spider [12.85%], 1109/9185x Snake [12.07%], 520/5775x Swamp [9.00%]) 11:07:26 <|amethyst> advil: you could make the same argument for swamp/snake 11:07:36 er 11:07:40 oh point 11:07:41 <|amethyst> advil: since the alternative universes are the same 11:07:43 yeah 11:07:46 !lm * recentish br.enter=swamp|snake|spider|shoals xl>=13 xl<=18 urune=0|1 turns>15000 s=urune,noun o=% / lg:br=$noun 11:07:54 29661/137585 milestones for * (recentish br.enter=swamp|snake|spider|shoals xl>=13 xl<=18 urune=0|1 turns>15000): 25314/103321x 0 (5660/18012x Shoals [31.42%], 6398/26592x Snake [24.06%], 6350/27454x Spider [23.13%], 6906/31263x Swamp [22.09%]), 4347/34264x 1 (1655/11032x Shoals [15.00%], 1063/8272x Spider [12.85%], 1109/9185x Snake [12.07%], 520/5775x Swamp [9.00%]) 11:07:57 ah that's not right, I used different xl cutoffs 11:08:58 -!- laj1 has joined ##crawl-dev 11:09:30 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.20-a0-682-g666c526 (34) 11:10:08 looks like one difference between recent and non-recent is that spider is just edging out snake if you have a rune 11:10:16 probably we've buffed spider recently 11:10:27 shock wasps maybe 11:10:49 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.20-a0-683-gd0eeda6: Don't allow time step to have a 0 turn duration 10(12 minutes ago, 2 files, 17+ 17-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d0eeda606884 11:10:49 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.20-a0-684-g7852e39: Adjust colouring of Gozag gold display 10(10 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7852e39c3e2c 11:10:49 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.20-a0-685-gde5e835: Fix some wizmode gold change issues 10(10 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/de5e835706a6 11:10:49 03advil02 {MarvinPA} 07* 0.20-a0-686-gb4b6995: Fix display on excommunication 10(40 minutes ago, 1 file, 18+ 11-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b4b6995c454c 11:10:56 not sure when we added torpor snails 11:11:42 !lg * recentish spider urune<2 xl>=13 turns>15000 xl<=20 s=cikiller% 11:11:43 thanks MarvinPA 11:11:44 7643 games for * (recentish spider urune<2 xl>=13 turns>15000 xl<=20): 1202x a wolf spider (15.73%), 1036x an orb spider (13.55%), 599x a spark wasp (7.84%), 597x a redback (7.81%), 590x an emperor scorpion (7.72%), 520x an entropy weaver (6.80%), 440x a jumping spider (5.76%), 415x a ghost moth (5.43%), 336x a tarantella (4.40%), 229x a demonic crawler (3.00%), 178x Nikola (2.33%), 156x (2.04%), ... 11:11:56 no problem, thanks for the patch :) 11:12:09 %git :/[tT]orpor 11:12:09 07regret-index02 * 0.19-a0-1832-g8d6b64e: Adjust Lair's spawns and OOD table some more 10(4 months ago, 1 file, 31+ 29-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8d6b64ec74de 11:12:24 probably a good call on the gozag gold text, you may want to change it in webtiles too 11:13:20 %git 4d6b2eaccc 11:13:20 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.15-a0-1544-g4d6b2ea: Add torpor snails 10(2 years, 8 months ago, 13 files, 98+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4d6b2eaccc57 11:13:50 IIRC would need to change in style.css the color for #stats_gozag_gold 11:13:51 yeah, so it's probably mostly the wasps 11:14:00 I think those were 0.17? 11:14:21 %git fdd910a2a5e 11:14:21 07Grunt02 * 0.18-a0-142-gfdd910a: Spark wasps. 10(2 years, 2 months ago, 11 files, 47+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/fdd910a2a5e0 11:14:55 -!- laj1 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:14:56 these are never the explanations players come up with 11:15:18 but I guess it's common for players thinking about it to just go "well, what do I know that's different about shoals vs. swamp" 11:15:25 so they come up with things like shops 11:15:38 <|amethyst> I'd figure open spaces 11:15:51 -!- laj1 has joined ##crawl-dev 11:15:56 yeah level layout is big 11:16:10 <|amethyst> which works for both shoals vs swamp, and spider vs snake 11:16:23 i guess this css bit also colours the piety stars? imo i will leave this to someone who knows anything about how webtiles works 11:16:51 you can just break it into two, i will provide a sprunge 11:16:56 unless they just need splitting up i guess 11:17:06 is it undesirable to color both the same now? 11:17:15 yeah, if so, a separate style for each 11:17:20 it looks weird to me at least in console 11:17:35 MarvinPA: since you were just working on that code, I noticed at some point that there's a bit of overlap between what update_level does and what run_environment_effects does. Maybe just shoals tides but I didn't check carefully 11:17:36 specifically having the number coloured yellow, rather than grey 11:18:41 update_level is sort of a weird trimmed-down run_environment_effects iirc 11:19:20 since it's intended for when you were actually off the level entirely, and not all that stuff can work if you've been offlevel 11:19:43 yeah...the observation is that step from time uses both 11:21:06 yeah, to handle stuff that otherwise wouldn't take place i think 11:21:16 <|amethyst> advil: btw, does it make sense to move those colours from update_bar_noise to the css and set a element class instead? 11:21:44 because it's done in handle_time, but time step doesn't want to run other timed_effects 11:22:10 time travel is dangerous and messy 11:22:19 heh 11:22:30 so at least the code matches that appropriately! 11:22:37 |amethyst: it could, but my ajax isn't strong enough to get it right. Would definitely be more efficient to simplify what happens dynamically if possible 11:22:55 oh nevermind 11:23:01 yeah, what you suggest would probably be better 11:23:03 <|amethyst> advil: I was thinking fore from the point of view of tweakability 11:23:04 toggle classes 11:23:10 I was thinking of something more complciated 11:23:12 <|amethyst> advil: actually, I think we already have classes for text colours 11:23:45 <|amethyst> .colour_yellow .colour_lightgreen etc 11:24:27 these use background-color but same principle. That would be better. 11:25:07 this should be enough to change the gozag gold color: http://sprunge.us/LLEb 11:25:21 <|amethyst> ah, see for example stats_hp_bar_* in webserver/game_data/static/style.css 11:25:36 though now that |amethyst points it out, no idea why all those hard-coded things don't use the color classes! 11:25:53 <|amethyst> we don't have colour classes for background I think 11:26:02 <|amethyst> could add those 11:26:26 <|amethyst> oh wait 11:26:36 <|amethyst> there is .fg0 .bg0 but those only work inside of #game 11:28:08 I guess the djinn bar is the best point of comparison because it does actually change color 11:28:13 I have no idea how that css works though 11:28:42 the contam bar 11:29:27 <|amethyst> #stats_contamline[data-contam="2"] 11:29:32 attribute selectors, I guess 11:29:49 <|amethyst> yeah 11:32:11 and then just $("#stats_contamline").attr("data-contam", contam_level); is enough to change the color 11:32:17 that's neat, I wish I'd done it that way 11:34:41 I don't have the fortitude to do more webtiles testing right this moment, but maybe I'll try to clean some of that up later 11:34:51 <|amethyst> cool 11:35:40 -!- laj1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:35:46 -!- Pleasingfungus has joined ##crawl-dev 11:37:44 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.20-a0-687-g5abc3fc: Refactor get_noise_perception(), again 10(45 seconds ago, 1 file, 8+ 8-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5abc3fc28024 11:37:50 -!- laj1 has joined ##crawl-dev 11:37:55 the djinn bar is known for its fiery liquers 11:37:55 Pleasingfungus: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 11:38:17 <|amethyst> liquor or liqueur? 11:38:31 i was going for the second one but mostly just because i like the way it sounds 11:38:36 i hope that doesn't make you think less of me 11:42:38 <|amethyst> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_H_sVNgvf4 11:44:02 <|amethyst> Just realised that link doesn't actually credit the source, which is Kids in the Hall 11:44:07 ahhhh 11:44:34 i've liked their stuff 11:44:37 -!- laj1 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:45:21 oh, no, i was thinking of whitest kids u know 11:45:26 different comedy kids 11:45:45 <|amethyst> these are Canadians 11:45:50 typical... 11:46:31 -!- laj1 has joined ##crawl-dev 11:47:34 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEQOvyGbBtY like, this is classic 11:50:49 -!- laj1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:52:12 -!- PoopBridge has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:53:24 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:55:42 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 11:56:09 Pleasingfungus: that refactorization looks good! 11:56:20 will be easier to sync with spell casting noise levels if someone eventually wants to do that 11:56:56 heh 11:57:05 doing that would require more investigation of how the propagation algorithm behaves in practical cases than I've done 11:57:11 truthfully, i was just annoyed at 'noise' no longer being const... 11:57:15 haha 11:57:17 but added benefits sound nice :) 11:57:58 -!- bgiannan_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:02:42 -!- laj1 has joined ##crawl-dev 12:07:19 -!- laj1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:09:17 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.20-a0-687-g5abc3fc (34) 12:14:44 -!- SteelNeuron has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:19:12 -!- Pacra_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:19:12 -!- Pacra__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:19:22 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 12:20:03 -!- laj1 has joined ##crawl-dev 12:22:13 -!- AutofireII has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:24:52 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.20-a0-687-g5abc3fc (34) 12:24:52 -!- laj1 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:26:22 -!- Pacra_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:26:45 -!- laj1 has joined ##crawl-dev 12:26:46 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 12:33:44 -!- laj1 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:34:32 nice, apparently berserk recovery has been broken since slow changed from 2* to 1.5* 12:35:09 -!- hellmonk has joined ##crawl-dev 12:35:12 do i... buff trog??? 12:35:18 hm? 12:35:24 broken how? 12:35:33 exhaustion is meant to expire at the same time as slow 12:35:47 but instead, exhaustion gets a 2* duration multiplier and slow a 1.5* one 12:35:59 <|amethyst> I think that's fine 12:36:03 ahh 12:36:07 i guess it could have been intentional and no documentation was changed 12:36:28 making them expire at the same time means fewer 5 interruptions 12:36:29 could always increase the slow multiplier, unless that'd affect other things? 12:36:58 the slow multiplier is built-in to all slow durations 12:37:42 -!- laj1 has joined ##crawl-dev 12:38:28 there was a request for a trog buff in the backlog! clearly should change this and then apply the compensation of making trog wrath instakill you, as also requested in compensation 12:39:14 ...who was making these requests, exactly? 12:39:39