00:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00:10 -!- exant has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:00:13 drac scorchers 00:00:19 looks like the only two to have both are dracs and az 00:00:20 also, how would having both make LOS-without-direct-path *more* dangerous than LOS? 00:00:25 azrael 00:00:41 Pleasingfungus: that's a boolean error in my speech 00:00:48 ah, i wondered 00:01:50 i mean, the spells don't really interact. they basically have the same effect they do when given out individually: smitey hellfire makes it more dangerous to be in LOS of a monster, and non-smitey hellfire makes it more dangerous to be in LOF 00:02:12 !lg * zot current 00:02:13 837. demenzo the Slayer (L27 OgHu of Okawaru), blasted by a Brimstone Fiend (damnation) (summoned by an ancient lich) on Zot:5 (hall_of_Zot) on 2017-02-08 03:42:16, with 613104 points after 77780 turns and 4:52:09. 00:02:20 !lg * zot current s=cikiller% 00:02:21 837 games for * (zot current): 210x an orb of fire (25.09%), 112x an Orb Guardian (13.38%), 58x a draconian (6.93%), 52x an ancient lich (6.21%), 39x a golden dragon (4.66%), 36x a pandemonium lord (4.30%), 35x a death cob (4.18%), 35x an electric golem (4.18%), 29x a storm dragon (3.46%), 24x a draconian monk (2.87%), 20x a quicksilver dragon (2.39%), 19x a draconian annihilator (2.27%), 19x a cu... 00:02:32 man 00:02:43 quicksilvers doing more work than the fancy draconians 00:02:53 !lg * zot !zot:5 current s=cikiller% 00:02:55 389 games for * (zot !zot:5 current): 64x an orb of fire (16.45%), 35x a draconian (9.00%), 34x a golden dragon (8.74%), 26x a death cob (6.68%), 23x a pandemonium lord (5.91%), 21x a storm dragon (5.40%), 19x a draconian monk (4.88%), 18x a quicksilver dragon (4.63%), 15x an electric golem (3.86%), 14x a curse toe (3.60%), 13x Tiamat (3.34%), 12x a draconian annihilator (3.08%), 10x a tentacled m... 00:03:06 it's me, Fancy Drac 00:03:13 fair warning: i am VERY fancy 00:03:26 do you have a scarf instead of a cloak?! 00:03:37 oh crap. one of my commits has a submodule change in it. How do I get rid of that 00:03:37 hrm 00:03:52 wipe the repo 00:03:54 start over from scratch 00:04:05 CanOfWorms: good new unique idea 00:04:16 -!- WalrusKing has quit [Read error: No route to host] 00:04:44 !lg * current gid!=$(!lm * current orb s=gid fmt:"${.}" join:"|") zot s=cikiller% 00:05:05 pf: you know... there *is* an existing drac unique with a scarf in the tile... 00:05:05 :) 00:05:11 Argument list too long - /home/tecumseh/fun/henzell/commands/listgame.rb gammafunk gammafunk \!lg\ \*\ current\ gid\!\=100P\:cxc\:20161028233350S\|532ks\:cwz\:20161124065324S\|5589\:cwz\:20161105102951S\|72323send\:cbro\:20161006233643S\|9to\:cao\:20161119023742S\|AAAAA\:cue\:20161016173650S\|AAA\:cwz\:20161006042105S\|AAA\:cwz\:20161009103945S\|AAA\:cwz\:20161012034702S\|AAA\:cwz\:20161017135951S... 00:05:15 whoa 00:05:17 at least, I think I left the scarf in the tile 00:05:19 don't lie to me Sequell 00:05:24 !source bai_suzhen.png 00:05:25 Can't find bai_suzhen.png. 00:05:28 CanOfWorms: well, you can kiss that one goodbai! 00:05:36 !source bai-suzhen.png 00:05:37 Can't find bai-suzhen.png. 00:05:46 i thought about giving bai a scarf, but it doesn't work 00:05:50 nevermind, I didn't add the scarf in the final tile 00:05:51 the scarf would get wet in the rain 00:05:55 lmao 00:07:13 New branch created: pull/445 (2 commits) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/445 00:07:13 03alexjurkiewicz02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/445 * 0.20-a0-610-g70a9f21: Add chequers_guarded_unrand_ignorance 10(2 hours ago, 2 files, 24+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/70a9f21cfa6a 00:07:13 03alexjurkiewicz02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/445 * 0.20-a0-611-g6305214: Add chequers_guarded_unrand_mark_of_the_dragon 10(12 minutes ago, 1 file, 26+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6305214f6a92 00:07:16 * alexjurkiewicz kicks Cheibriados 00:07:29 mask 00:07:31 someday i need to rewrite dragon mask's description 00:07:36 i've had that on my todo list for literally years 00:07:39 the lore... 00:08:06 -!- laj1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:08:06 A strange blue mask made of hard, flexible leather, resembling a dragon's visage. 00:08:30 salamander hide armour is also very boring, but MarvinPA vetoed my extremely good description for it nearly 3 years ago, and i'm still sulking 00:09:11 Foiled by Sequell again, alas 00:09:44 we really need to add orb as a logfile/milestone field 00:09:49 like how runes are 00:10:13 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.20-a0-611-g5ffda9c (34) 00:12:26 beware the orb cost 00:12:33 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:12:50 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:12:50 make sure you add the field as uorbs=1 so you have forwards compatibility to when you add the overworld 00:14:33 lol 00:14:37 Most salamander bodies are consigned to the lava from which they sprang. Rarely, though, salamanders instead preserve the skins of those that passed. Judging by the runes and decorations on this hide, it most likely belonged to a respected warrior or priest - perhaps even a king. 00:14:44 "kind of weird" 00:14:55 armour of the salamander king 00:15:22 i think the last sentence is a little clunky/off, but i like the conceit 00:15:28 of course, i would 00:15:53 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 00:15:58 I like it too 00:16:15 why are salamanders put into lava when they die? they can swim in lava. that's like fish burying a dead fish in the sea 00:16:26 "possibly" insetad of "perhaps" could make it sound better maybe?? but I think it's a minor wash either way 00:16:52 you put dead things somewhere they aren't normally. in other words, dead salamanders are obviously placed into deep water tiles 00:16:59 lol 00:17:09 i mean, we bury humans in the earth that we walk on 00:17:15 and someone was just going on about "gammafunk-length" descriptions 00:17:17 salamanders swim on the surface, they don't submerge 00:17:20 wow! 00:17:24 the koreans made sexy erolcha 00:17:26 gammafunk: it's three sentences. 00:17:33 03alexjurkiewicz02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/445 * 0.20-a0-612-g443eeca: typo 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/443eecad08f5 00:17:35 oh god 00:17:35 CanOfWorms: I've seen that one 00:17:35 it's not sexy 00:17:42 yeah I should have prefaced it with 00:17:43 "sexy" 00:17:45 good sir, i challenge you, no, i INSIST you find evidence in crawl's lore that salamanders do not submerge 00:18:09 they don't have the actual, mechanical submerge effect. 00:18:20 it's canon, baby 00:18:55 😑 00:20:03 -!- laj1 has joined ##crawl-dev 00:20:32 Brannock: maybe... "The runes and decorations on this hide suggest it once belonged to a respected warrior or priest - perhaps even a king." 00:20:57 dropping that 'judging by' 00:21:01 yeah, remove first-person uncertainty would help 00:21:11 turns it into evaluation instead of puzzlement 00:21:39 feels more consistent with the rest of the desc 00:22:02 -!- Kuprin has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:22:28 also, "consigned to the lava" could be "consigned to the fiery depths" instead, if we wanted to handle a certain 'chequers' objections 00:22:45 https://www.reddit.com/r/dcss/comments/5spfx9/i_need_to_see_how_much_damage_i_deal/ 00:22:45 ^ minmay alt 00:22:52 it's convergence! 00:23:05 heh 00:23:18 "consigned to the fiery depths" 00:23:27 confirmed that salamanders go to gehenna when they die =p 00:24:09 -!- WalrusKing has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:25:58 i mean 00:26:00 that's literally already canon 00:26:04 or was, at some point 00:26:20 Pleasingfungus: please take none of the above objections seriously 00:26:22 i forget if the other salamanders got kicked out of Geh when firebrands were removed... 00:26:28 don't think so 00:26:33 but I haven't been to geh in a while 00:27:29 you're missing out. it's lovely this time of year 00:28:39 that would require me to like 00:28:47 reach depths on one of my characters 00:28:59 or lair! 00:29:00 although I do have a misu ready to go extended 00:29:01 =p 00:29:01 rip 00:29:08 misu!? 00:29:12 yeah 00:29:16 that's not how you spell miso 00:29:19 classic power combo 00:29:20 fun build 00:29:27 got summon forest and went nuts 00:29:33 that and shadow creatures 00:29:37 the summoning synergises with the, uh... headbutt... 00:29:47 the summoning synergizes with chei. 00:30:14 although in that case, it was more the whip of distortion that synergized with chei 00:30:16 and you can slouch the shit out of your own summons! 00:30:35 it's just a shame that summon forest is complete garbage in shoals 00:30:45 can't place trees on water.... 00:30:52 heh 00:31:06 i'm sure that's a decent spell but i've never managed to get much use out of it 00:31:21 it's significantly better now that it can generate trees in metal and stone 00:31:32 go into a relatively small room, watch the trees shred everything 00:31:37 ah 00:31:42 that does seem a lot better 00:31:51 instead of it forcing you to use it in open areas 00:31:52 also you can kite monsters around a tree 00:33:04 -!- laj1 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:33:26 and it's even more effective than doing it without summon forest! 00:37:22 -!- destroythecore has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:40:29 speaking of power creep: should we buff sword of power? 00:40:33 i hear it's bad 00:42:19 ??sword of power 00:42:19 sword of power[1/1]: This great sword's plusses depend on your current hitpoints. Its enchantment is your HP / 10, going from +0 to +27. 00:42:29 jokes? 00:42:43 270 hp is rare to get 00:42:51 a +20 great sword is probably pretty okay imo 00:43:28 what if you take damage, though 00:43:33 you could change it so the % is based on %hp (so 100%hp = +27) 00:43:45 i wonder why it caps at 27 right now. Og nerf 00:43:54 do you actually wonder 00:43:59 also, getting major bonus damage from berserk would be great fun 00:44:00 it might be better now that riposte exists 00:44:42 now is the time for my EV-based sword of power fighter! 00:45:06 still has to compete with branded greatswords, though 00:45:15 what's bad about the sword of power? 00:45:16 riposte was in 0.19, right? 00:45:20 27 is good 00:45:20 it's strong when I've used it 00:46:01 people were complaining about it somewhere at some point 00:46:10 because "EV-based sword of power fighter" is probably the singular niche where HE is better than the alternatives 00:46:11 i don't believe you 00:46:12 well that's an open-and-shut case 00:46:12 although maybe HO 00:46:19 lol 00:46:20 just because of the more hp issue 00:46:36 heh 00:46:42 those people 00:46:44 always complaining 00:46:45 somewhere 00:48:10 should clearly bring back its original great feature 00:48:12 %git 8fbba2656916b25242509a2dfad55f1951874889 00:48:12 07MarvinPA02 * 0.12-a0-123-g8fbba26: Cap the Sword of Power at +27, linear growth instead of stepped down 10(4 years, 6 months ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8fbba2656916 00:48:16 weird stepdowns! 00:48:33 heh 00:48:33 i love stepdowns 00:48:40 can never have too many weird stepdowns! 00:48:55 that's probably what those people were complaining about 00:49:13 i remembered changing it but was thinking it actually used to be percentage-based, turns out of course it was much more complicated instead 00:49:14 way too easy to predict the enchantment it'll have on it now 00:49:21 hah 00:54:38 the description could probably be a little less obtuse 00:55:50 spriggan knife description still makes me laugh 00:57:26 imo that's pretty much its only redeeming feature 00:57:38 but i agree it's v. good 00:58:15 harsh, but fair 00:58:38 i suppose also being crawl's last remaining knife is also good 00:58:55 gosh, knives used to be a real thing.... 00:59:00 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.20-a0-612-g95306a3: Mark Talos's description for removal 10(32 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/95306a38cc27 00:59:06 but every character has a knife! 00:59:23 is there a grass tile? 00:59:31 ??spriggan's knife 00:59:31 spriggan's knife[1/1]: The +7 Spriggan's Knife {MR+ EV+4 Dex+4 Stlth++}. This knife was made by Spriggans, or for Spriggans, or possibly from Spriggans. Anyway, it's in some way associated with those fey folk. Actually a dagger. 00:59:35 i feel like there was one that was used in forest 00:59:39 when forest was a thing 00:59:45 dang. it's just a dagger? what a rip off 00:59:53 why doesn't the enchantress sometimes wield this 01:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:00:06 she already gets faerie scales? 01:00:21 for the contribs gitorious update, do I just need to change it in each of the contrib config files? 01:00:37 a grep finds them in the FETCH_HEAD files too 01:02:11 MarvinPA: i've actually legit used the spriggan knife for most of the game on a couple of guys 01:02:23 -!- laj1 has joined ##crawl-dev 01:03:09 -!- hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:03:14 ??git 01:03:15 git[1/2]: Readonly: git clone https://github.com/crawl/crawl.git Web interface: https://github.com/crawl/crawl 01:04:04 ??rebuild 01:04:04 rebuild[1/2]: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rebuild/ http://underhound.eu:81/rebuild/ http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/rebuild/ http://crawl.xtahua.com/rebuild/ https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/rebuild/ Bug |amethyst or Nap.Kin for CDO. Use your powers wisely. 01:05:37 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 01:06:47 what's the best way to clear up issues with des files not getting properly cleared? 01:07:15 (i.e. hellmonk's issue with food.des still existing in the installed folder, but it being removed from the repo)? 01:07:35 I could just go and delete the file, but I seem to remember that not always working out well for me when I've run into it testing my own stuff 01:07:36 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 01:07:53 seems like I want to force clear the des cache and have it rebuild 01:08:26 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 01:09:38 when you say des files, do you mean the .des files checked into the repo? git should be taking care of deleting those for sure 01:10:11 in the install location in the chroot 01:10:15 in crawl-master I believe 01:10:15 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.20-a0-612-g95306a3 (34) 01:10:56 when you try to play hellcrawl on cbro, it's giving an error: /crawl-master/crawl-hellcrawl-cbro/data/dat/des/builder/food.des:254: unknown monster: "necrophage" 01:10:58 i'm a little surprised that we don't do a clean build every time a version is deployed 01:11:07 I thought we did 01:11:14 what do you mean a clean build? 01:11:45 like, remove anything generated by make, start over from something close to `git clean -df .` 01:12:06 and an empty install location 01:12:14 I don't remember this happening with trunk since don't des files get deleted occasionally? 01:12:56 well again, what would you mean by empty install location in the context of one of these servers 01:13:38 it might be possible to do a git clean before the rebuild if ccache is working properly 01:13:43 -!- bgiannan_ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:14:01 since recreating those files would be fast; otherwise rebuilds would be full rebuilds and take a lot longer 01:14:35 specifically doing clean from dat/ might work though 01:15:03 my ccache doesn't seem to work I think. since it looks like all files are being rebuilt 01:16:14 -!- JoeltCo has quit [Quit: Quitting] 01:18:05 -!- bgiannan_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:18:15 -!- laj1 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:18:32 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.20-a0-612-g95306a3 (34) 01:19:00 !tell |amethyst I think I fixed the glitch. thanks for the heads up 01:19:01 johnstein: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 01:20:13 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.20-a0-612-g95306a3 (34) 01:20:26 -!- laj1 has joined ##crawl-dev 01:20:33 -!- ebarrett_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:22:05 !tell hellmonk I got rid of food.des and things look like they are working. let me know if something is still screwed up 01:22:05 johnstein: OK, I'll let hellmonk know. 01:25:37 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 01:29:41 -!- grisha5 is now known as grisha5|AFK 01:34:10 is rmsl gone from the game or just out of the wz starting book? 01:35:58 gone gone, i think 01:36:10 unless scarves or amulet of air count 01:36:52 -!- nikheizen has joined ##crawl-dev 01:37:25 aw 01:37:33 scarves are going to give rmsl? 01:38:02 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:40:00 yes. it has already been declared 'OP' 01:41:12 I'm still not sure what is the...yeah I'm gonna say it....design space of scarves 01:42:33 he said it! gammafunk said it! 01:42:45 it's "trading ac for stuff", no? 01:43:08 sure, but artefact cloaks can do this 01:43:11 -!- filthy has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:43:16 I should go read the original commit before grumbling further 01:43:25 reading sucks!!! 01:43:42 :) 01:44:00 btw, we're almost halfway through a traditional release cycle 01:44:10 if i did my math right 01:44:15 %git 01:44:15 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.20-a0-612-g95306a3: Mark Talos's description for removal 10(46 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/95306a38cc27 01:44:21 %git 0.19.0 01:44:21 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.19.0: Restrict blessings to currently-friendly followers 10(3 months ago, 1 file, 7+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b5dbd8884dfd 01:44:22 in terms of time, not commits 01:44:27 in terms of both! 01:44:30 ah, really? 01:44:34 time flies 01:44:44 like a banana 01:44:55 hrm, commit-wise we seem a bit short of the usual 2k, not that it matters 01:45:45 hm 01:45:53 so scarves are going in the cloak slot? 01:46:31 yes 01:46:45 gammafunk: that's... that's what i was saying 01:46:55 what did you mean by "in terms of both"? 01:47:13 oh 01:47:26 pretend I read what you said 01:47:47 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:49:07 -!- grisha5|AFK is now known as grisha5 01:50:22 lol 01:51:23 -!- LordSloth has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 01:54:42 sigh... 01:54:44 gammadunked again. 01:55:16 anyway, if IJC gets merged in, we'll instantly be above 2k commits 01:55:20 so no worries on that count 01:57:57 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:59:18 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.20-a0-612-g95306a3 02:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:00:52 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:01:32 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:03:39 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:04:40 I guess I should have specified that scarves having rMsl needs to come with a reduction in rMsl's power 02:05:16 yeah 02:05:19 -!- nikheizen has quit [Quit: leaving] 02:05:28 i was joking earlier, and then i started to think about it a bit more 02:05:40 then i got distracted by dumb jokes (very important) 02:05:51 but if you compare amulet of air... 02:07:32 -!- laj1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:09:24 -!- waat has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:09:59 -!- Pleasingfungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.93 [Firefox 51.0.1/20170125094131]] 02:15:10 -!- laj1 has joined ##crawl-dev 02:16:52 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:17:15 -!- sfogarty has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:21:51 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.20-a0-613-g92415a4: Remove some obsolete RMsl handling 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 13-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/92415a46a5aa 02:22:28 oh no 02:22:44 "permanant" :( 02:23:05 wait 02:24:04 for some reason that looked completely wrong but i guess it is not 02:24:11 -!- Blazinghbnd has joined ##crawl-dev 02:27:21 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:30:25 -!- Enthusiasm has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:34:51 -!- Patashu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:35:21 -!- Pacra_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:35:44 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 02:42:46 -!- wheals_ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:44:09 -!- laj1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:44:56 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:45:24 huh? 02:45:36 it's spelled "permanEnt" 02:46:18 -!- laj1 has joined ##crawl-dev 02:47:00 -!- ArseElementalist has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:47:49 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:53:33 -!- laj1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:55:10 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.20-a0-613-g92415a4 02:59:03 -!- laj1 has joined ##crawl-dev 02:59:29 -!- myp has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 03:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:06:41 -!- laj1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:07:16 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 03:08:49 -!- laj1 has joined ##crawl-dev 03:10:15 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.20-a0-613-g92415a4 (34) 03:11:04 -!- dubst3pp4 has quit [Quit: Ĝis la revido!] 03:14:02 -!- ebarrett_ has quit [Client Quit] 03:14:48 -!- SteelNeuron has joined ##crawl-dev 03:16:29 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:16:35 -!- laj1 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:17:11 -!- eb_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:22:40 Thought experiment: What if Lair and Orc were mutually exclusive? (And they had the same lair portals) 03:22:59 Lair gives more exp and permafood, orc more gear and money, so your build does depend to some extent in that choice 03:23:03 Experimental (councilgod-PR) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.20-a0-645-g1049240 03:23:13 would you also cram slime and elf into all of them? 03:23:28 it would be a bit crammed, that's right, but does it really matter? 03:23:55 they could be moved to D:15 03:24:33 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:24:59 i guess it doesn't really matter 03:25:07 i kind of like having both in the game though 03:25:21 they feel like milestones 03:25:39 also, ime, orc will fuck your ass up if you haven't gotten the xp from lair 03:27:45 Orc would need rebalancing that's for sure. 03:28:03 I find Lair a bit boring, that's one part of it, but it also feels like anything you put at that point in the game probably would be 03:28:24 so maybe two or three options that dictate how later stages of the game will progress could be interesting 03:28:35 XL11... Okay, what does my character need? I get one choice. 03:29:13 -!- laj1 has joined ##crawl-dev 03:36:11 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.20-a0-613-g92415a4 (34) 03:46:01 it might be interesting 03:49:06 !messages 03:49:07 (1/3) |amethyst said (7h 41m 38s ago): to fix trunk builds on CUE, need to edit the submodule git configs and/or the .git/config to change gitorious URLs to github 03:49:09 !messages 03:49:10 (1/2) |amethyst said (7h 40m 51s ago): under crawl-build/crawl-git-repository/ one to two of .git/modules/crawl-ref/source/contrib/sqlite/config .git/config and/or crawl-ref/source/contrib/sqlite/.git/config 03:49:12 !messages 03:49:12 (1/1) |amethyst said (7h 35m 1s ago): probably a good idea to change all the submodules, not just sqlite, but that's the one that's breaking it at the moment 03:53:35 Oh, Gitorious is gone 03:53:54 just fixed that myself 03:54:40 in .git/modules/ I did: find . -name "config"|xargs sed -i 's/gitorious.org/github.com/' 03:55:08 my .git/config was already correct 03:55:22 Yeah, that's what I'm fixing now. 03:58:03 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:59:10 -!- Blazinghbnd has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:04:24 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 04:04:25 The build has errored. 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quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:49:44 Lesser Beckoning shouldn't offer adjacent monsters as targets (and shouldn't cycle through them). 09:58:20 -!- sgun__ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:06:09 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:34:05 -!- PyrintomiesNYJ is now known as vinski[BKN] 10:44:05 -!- zhiyi has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:44:35 -!- zhiyi has joined ##crawl-dev 10:56:41 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:10:31 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:15:02 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 11:18:30 -!- LexAckson_ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:29:11 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 11:33:10 -!- SteelNeuron has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:38:06 -!- Pleasingfungus has joined ##crawl-dev 11:38:11 @??titan 11:38:11 titan (06C) | Spd: 10 | HD: 20 | HP: 84-126 | AC/EV: 10/3 | Dam: 55 | 10doors, fighter, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(180), 11elec+++, 12drown | XP: 2586 | Sp: b.lightning (3d24), minor healing (2d10+3), airstrike (0-50) | Sz: Giant | Int: human. 11:41:20 -!- Amnesiac has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:43:38 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:49:49 -!- Ryblade has quit [Quit: proof i need to eat ^] 11:52:22 -!- Alarkh has joined ##crawl-dev 11:52:23 -!- Bcadren has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:54:04 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 11:55:17 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 12:00:08 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:02:10 -!- Alarkh has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:06:40 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 12:12:06 -!- laj1 has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 12:13:16 -!- zhiyi has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:13:38 -!- zhiyi has joined ##crawl-dev 12:22:45 -!- Amnesiac has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:24:31 -!- TuxQmoob has quit [Changing host] 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12:36:54 i think -6 is just too steep for non-chei characters 12:37:02 !stats ogfi 12:37:07 !stats nafi 12:37:09 Starting stats for OgFi: Str 19 Int 9 Dex 8. Stat gain: s/3 12:37:17 Starting stats for NaFi: Str 18 Int 8 Dex 10. Stat gain: sid/4 12:37:18 yeah probably 12:37:22 also that command is surprisingly slow 12:37:44 odd indeed 12:42:20 "particularly sly, conniving thief, however," has perhaps too many commas 12:42:25 mountain dwarf meta references...... 12:42:26 got tripped up while reading 12:42:46 perhaps 12:42:51 the vitality one reads sort of awkwardly to me generally 12:42:57 on the whole I like these, though! 12:43:02 i think i might be trying to do too many things with the vit amulet desc 12:43:11 I like tying Vitality to Borgnjor 12:43:14 sly, conniving thief is from maurice's description 12:43:15 i don't think it needs to mention being stolen at all, yeah 12:43:46 "After losing it, she was forced to turn to blacker arts." 12:43:51 Bit of hint at Necromut 12:44:02 Maybe not 12:44:20 imo it's better just as a revivication joke/ref 12:44:34 the whole point is: who does +hp help more than someone who's been abusing borg's... 12:45:12 yeah 12:45:17 I realized that after I made the suggestion 12:51:01 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 12:52:33 03alexjurkiewicz02 {Brannock} 07* 0.20-a0-614-gf0b4e37: Add chequers_guarded_unrand_ignorance 10(18 minutes ago, 1 file, 23+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f0b4e372af6c 12:52:33 03alexjurkiewicz02 {Brannock} 07* 0.20-a0-615-gf59e5ab: Add chequers_guarded_unrand_mask_of_the_dragon 10(13 hours ago, 1 file, 26+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f59e5ab63d09 12:52:33 03Brannock02 07* 0.20-a0-616-gad7b6bd: Make Ignorance slightly less ignorant 10(58 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ad7b6bdbfb07 12:53:37 is dyrovepreva supposed to be an antaeus reference? if so it doesn't really match up with his existing desc 12:55:19 although reading it, antaeus's description sort of makes no sense anyway 12:55:47 he challenged the queen to single combat, and that's a thing that was okay and allowed? but then he won and that's a crime, actually 12:55:59 'jealous' should be 'envious' 12:58:28 MarvinPA: no, not intended as a ref 12:58:42 titans are just naturally warlike 12:59:19 i don't remember my exact reasoning wrt the single combat thing; i think the most reasonable reading is that they aren't supposed to be duels to the death 12:59:34 Brannock: i think jealous is fine there 12:59:44 you could also read them as not being allowed at all, and just something he did. just calling her out in the titan street, you know 13:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:00:05 -!- Mu_ has quit [Quit: Defecator, may everything turn out okay so that you can leave this place.] 13:00:45 if i say "hey fight me", you fight me, and i kill you, i'm probably going to jail 13:00:53 he was once a hero, and not only does he envy the titan queen (he wishes he could be king or something), he is jealous (unhappy that anyone else gets the recognition) 13:00:55 jealousy is fearing losing/sharing something or someone. envious is desiring someone/something that you don't have. just a pet peeve of mine, don't mind me. 13:01:03 oh 13:01:07 yeah in that case that makes sense 13:02:03 i was thinking that a queen probably doesn't wander around such that people can just say "hey fight me" and nobody steps in to say "actually, you can't just fight the queen" 13:02:14 but maybe that's what titans do! 13:02:36 strides into the throne room, throws down a big ol' titan gauntlet 13:02:37 flexes a bit 13:02:43 everyone else too intimidated to say anything 13:02:44 titan sociology 13:03:05 re-reading that description, my problem with it is: commas 13:03:07 too many damn commas 13:03:32 my biggest complaint about the antaeus description is that "he was exiled and descended..." parses wrong on first glance, sounding like it means "he was...descended", but actually it's intended as "he (was exiled) and (descended)" 13:03:39 imo not enough commas. fight me 13:03:42 lol 13:03:58 For this crime, he was exiled, and descended into the Hells. 13:04:22 in seriousness i can't find a single comma i would condone removing 13:04:42 i guess "his might, Antaeus" could live without it 13:04:50 that last sentence just feels very... bumpy 13:05:03 Finding the inhabitants of that place no match for his might, Antaeus tore from its substance a fourth Hell, Cocytus, a realm born of frozen spite. 13:05:18 idk 13:05:56 just s/cocytus, // maybe? only one fewer comma but still progress! 13:07:20 that also makes the rhyme stand out more, desc poetry 13:07:43 03PleasingFungus02 07[unrand_lore] * 0.20-a0-614-gb1149fa: Remove a sly, conniving reference 10(86 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b1149faa6989 13:07:44 i always forget that rhyme exists 13:07:44 hm 13:08:38 ...tore from its substance the fourth Hell, a realm born of frozen spite. <- ? not sure about this one 13:08:56 i think if you want to emphasize that rhyme you need to remove actual words between the two stanzas, not just futz with punctuation 13:09:25 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.20-a0-616-gad7b6bd (34) 13:09:35 i assumed the rhyme was just accidental and don't think it actually needs more emphasis really :P 13:09:42 ya 13:10:21 while we're around and talking: any thoughts about maybe nerfing rmsl? it's quite strong for an ego 13:10:32 also i think the mountain dwarf thing is still too much but other than that the rest seem okay. i'd definitely drop the "but as their race slowly dwindled..." 13:10:51 i can honestly drop the entire arga change, that was pure self-indulgence 13:11:02 i'll never get tired of mountain dwarf jokes 13:12:29 still more boring unrand descs on the list... autumn katana and piercer are both very bland 13:12:32 esp piercer 13:14:13 -!- Dixie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:18:36 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.20-a0-617-g89cf17a: Add Unrand Lore 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 26+ 10-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/89cf17aeb242 13:18:50 oh yeah, i forgot to mention 13:18:53 spicy 13:19:15 the problem with dyslexia's new description is: the resists/effects it grants are ones titans already have 13:19:32 i just like the idea of a 'crown' that's actually a giant's ring... 13:19:42 maybe the titan just wanted a pretty hat 13:19:46 and everyoen else was envious 13:19:54 and the hat absorbed the titan's powers 13:20:04