00:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00:26 hm. I cloned the branch directly. should I have instead cloned crawl/master and then checked out my branch from there? 00:00:50 possibly. but what are you trying to do, exactly? 00:00:59 -!- dondy has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.5] 00:01:52 you should haved if you want to cherrypick commits from master branch, yes 00:02:06 otherwise it won't have the commit you are trying to pick 00:02:59 (but you should be able to "git fetch origin master" to fix that) 00:07:17 ok, one sec, it was all in separate folders before 00:07:24 re cloning 00:08:52 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 00:10:32 gloves of punching or gloves of boxing 00:10:32 or neither 00:10:54 I'm trying to cherry pick commits from crawl/master into yrmvgh/unremove-elves 00:11:09 I have an idea floating around for an unrand glove that confuses enemies you punch, but I'm kinda against a basic ego that boosts your unarmed damage because, if you play an unarmed character, then it's a blatantly obvious decision what to wear if you can find it 00:11:10 I know how that sounds! I'm not one of those "angry that the devs removed something" players 00:11:22 and honestlY I'm not sure that that unrand idea is even a good one in the first place 00:11:48 removing them was a fine decision, I don't even play elves generally, am doing this as a learning experience 00:12:15 you don't need to justify yourself to us :) but I think what you want to do is fork at just before the HE removal, then cherry pick everything after HE removal 00:12:20 I'm not a git expert though 00:12:25 hm, well what if the gloves were a spell, instead? 00:12:32 confusing touch! 00:12:38 alternatively, you can just create a fork that unremoves high elves, by writing your own commit 00:12:41 :P 00:12:46 I did the latter already 00:12:51 ah, what are you trying to grab then? 00:13:29 and that fork even compiles! but now, I want to figure out how to merge upstream changes that have happened since I made my commit 00:13:57 cherry-pick seemed like the way to go 00:14:20 wouldn't rebase work better? 00:14:25 assuming the commit is a direct revert of the HE removal 00:14:29 rebase would preserve that commit 00:15:02 well alright 00:15:13 yeah maybe it would be better, you tell me haha. but I didn't revert, I couldn't figure out how. I manually moved around or deleted all the little "if major version == 34" things, and such 00:15:26 -!- Pleasingfungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.93 [Firefox 51.0.1/20170125094131]] 00:15:41 i don't think unarmed gloves characters that don't transmute are all that common, and gloves of archery are in a similar boat 00:15:41 restored the manual.reST text, etc 00:15:45 but this saves me drawing an icon 00:15:59 find the commit hash for the HE removal then do 00:16:03 $ git revert 00:19:00 hrm. I'd lose a bunch of other stuff if I backtracked that far 00:19:12 I'll read the docs on rebase, thanks for the tip 00:19:23 %git :/high elves 00:19:23 Could not find commit :/high elves (git returned 128) 00:19:28 %git :/High Elves 00:19:28 07gammafunk02 {MarvinPA} * 0.20-a0-295-gab3cf41: Remove High Elves 10(5 months ago, 29 files, 54+ 164-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ab3cf41a3731 00:24:42 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 00:29:05 -!- lobf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:29:21 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 00:30:23 -!- WalrusKing has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:31:57 Stable (0.19) branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.19.4-8-ga85b6b9 00:34:08 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 00:35:00 ah 00:35:09 people reading my excellent commit messages again 00:35:10 very good 00:36:37 03Brannock02 07[scarf] * 0.20-a0-586-gd8dc35b: Comment 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d8dc35bc5e96 00:37:49 -!- AngelaSmythe has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:40:55 -!- Kuprin has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:48:59 -!- eb has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:50:42 good use of 'arm' 00:50:57 arm being short for armour 00:51:05 arm type: leg 00:51:08 as opposed to eq_ 00:55:10 -!- scwizard has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:56:25 -!- maxrmk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:58:42 given the removal of poisonous cloud and the abolition of ignite poison blowing up poisonous enemies I see little reason for this spell to exist 01:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:00:06 toxic radiance -> ignite, maybe? 01:00:06 isn't it still good for accelerating otr 01:01:58 I mean, toxic radi is good in lair on its own, no ignite needed. in vaults, the ignite is nice but you should have access to better spells by then. in s-branch you're likely to run into enemies resistant 01:02:18 my main beef with ignite poison is i've never had cause to use it 01:02:30 because it's not in any starting book 01:03:12 it's in book of fire which does nothing to help it 01:03:15 I've only ever used it before the nerf in spider 01:03:25 now I wouldn't bother learning it ever 01:03:27 and book of alchemy which also does nothing to help it 01:03:33 ??book of alchemy 01:03:34 book of alchemy[1/1]: Sublimation of Blood, Condensation Shield, Alistair's Intoxication, Petrify, Ignite Poison, Irradiate (in 0.16+) 01:03:37 this book is very very niche 01:03:45 book of alchemy is really bad in general yeah 01:03:50 from a player pov anyway 01:03:51 by the time you find it most of the spells aren't worth learning 01:04:02 ??yara's violent unraveling 01:04:02 yara's violent unraveling ~ yara's violent unravelling[1/2]: A Level 5 Hexes/Transmutations spell that dispels all enchantments (dispellable effects) on the target; if there were any, causes a radius-1 explosion that damages and malmutates everything within. Found in the Books of Hindrance and Enchantments. 01:04:16 tempted to move it from enchantments into alchemy 01:04:33 !tell PleasingFungus yara's moved from enchantments -> alchemy? 01:04:34 Brannock: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 01:04:35 yeah put all the irrelevant spells in one plac 01:04:51 take sub blood out of alchemy while your at it 01:04:57 nah 01:05:06 that's the one generally useful spell in the book though 01:05:15 my point :P 01:07:37 ??book of alchemy 01:07:37 book of alchemy[1/1]: Sublimation of Blood, Condensation Shield, Alistair's Intoxication, Petrify, Ignite Poison, Irradiate (in 0.16+) 01:09:14 !learn edit book_of_alchemy s/Conden[^,]*, // 01:09:16 book of alchemy[1/1]: Sublimation of Blood, Alistair's Intoxication, Petrify, Ignite Poison, Irradiate (in 0.16+) 01:09:30 !learn edit book_of_alchemy s/ \(in.*// 01:09:31 book of alchemy[1/1]: Sublimation of Blood, Alistair's Intoxication, Petrify, Ignite Poison, Irradiate 01:10:32 Stable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19.4-8-ga85b6b9 (34) 01:14:29 -!- eb_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:16:54 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:17:15 -!- wheals has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:17:39 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 01:18:08 -!- Kintak has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:22:30 !source beam.cc:5785 01:22:30 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/beam.cc#L5785 01:23:06 is it ok if i change this assert to ex_size >= 0? radius 0 explosions are quite convenient for ignition 01:24:02 chaos reigns 01:24:03 go ahead 01:24:08 if something blows up we'll fix it 01:24:24 I already tested it 01:25:15 <|amethyst> oh, I thought it would have radius 1 01:25:28 there might be some beam flavour that messes up radius 0 explosions but the general case seems to work fine 01:25:32 slightly figured out how to cherry-pick a commit from crawl/master, not quite there yet though: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23939470/ 01:25:54 |amethyst: it's what it looks like to the player, but to communicate that it won't hit the player, I "shape" the explosion around players/allies 01:26:22 similar to what devastator does 01:26:30 it's a fire spell that won't hurt the player? 01:26:44 except devastator doesn't shape the visual explosion and my implementation does 01:27:31 Doesnty: not very common for players to hurt themselves with flame tongue, throw flame, conjure flame, sticky flame, bolt of magma, ignite poison, bolt of fire, or ring of flames 01:27:59 there are uses of conjure flame that involve hurting yourself 01:28:15 idk i like playing with fire 01:28:19 I'd be fine with letting it hurt allies but if you let it hurt the player then you have to step away from adjacent monsters all the time, which is gross 01:28:21 w/inner flame, fireball, and fire storm 01:28:30 uh 01:28:42 ok 01:28:52 I don't want to add spells that are a pain in the ass to use 01:30:38 I might just duplicate some explosion code instead of using radius 0 explosions to avoid unnecessary redraws 01:31:11 <|amethyst> explode_delay is more of a pain than the redraws 01:32:06 <|amethyst> I guess you could just set that to 0 in the beam 01:32:28 yeah that's what it does right now 01:47:46 -!- wheals_ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:50:42 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:51:06 -!- Kintak has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:54:01 New branch created: pull/441 (4 commits) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/441 01:54:01 03Doesnt02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/441 * 0.20-a0-578-g94175f0: Add punching brand. 10(72 minutes ago, 10 files, 34+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/94175f0de90d 01:54:01 03Doesnt02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/441 * 0.20-a0-579-gcd13aa3: Fix text 10(65 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 8-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/cd13aa3c676f 01:54:01 03Doesnt02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/441 * 0.20-a0-580-gea24ecc: Rename punching to boxing 10(42 minutes ago, 11 files, 11+ 11-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ea24ecc71b57 01:54:01 03Doesnt02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/441 * 0.20-a0-581-g1996369: Add temp. boxing sprite 10(19 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/19963699e74e 01:58:49 -!- Ratatosk has joined ##crawl-dev 01:59:00 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.20-a0-578-gd12c374 01:59:16 -!- Ratatosk has quit [Client Quit] 02:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:02:47 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:03:05 -!- Perryman has quit [Client Quit] 02:03:21 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 02:05:40 -!- wheals_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:21:14 |amethyst: I wonder if we could just use subdirs on the release folder on CDO to help organize past releases 02:21:23 and let the Apache directory listing do the rest 02:21:50 I suppose we'd need help from 'kin to make a folder for each release, but that shouldn't be too bad 02:22:05 rather than this massive file listing 02:22:18 I don't think that would break anything if those urls changed 02:23:21 and I think you can hyperlink the directory listing to get reverse sort so that e.g. 0.19 is listed is 0.18, not that this is terribly important 02:23:43 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 02:23:44 -!- rumflump has quit [Quit: rumflump] 02:31:55 -!- rumflump has joined ##crawl-dev 02:33:13 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:45:16 -!- Enthusiasm has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:46:51 -!- Patashu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:53:44 -!- Amnesiac has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:54:44 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.20-a0-578-gd12c374 02:55:11 -!- PoopBridge has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:56:11 -!- Furril has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:57:33 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:57:38 -!- hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:00:00 so if you had a scarf of levitation it would basically strangle you 03:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:00:10 *shower thought* 03:01:12 -!- SteelNeuron has joined ##crawl-dev 03:04:36 -!- ArseElementalist has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:06:17 Replace Delayed Fireball with new spell: Ignition 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10931 by minmay 03:08:06 minmay: you don't want to mess with github? 03:08:18 looks fun 03:09:35 gammafunk: Do you have a stream schedule? 03:10:26 SteelNeuron: I have a rough schedule of playing dcss once a week, but I've delayed my recent stream 03:10:47 No problem :) just wanted to make sure I don't miss the IJC one 03:10:52 Or to watch them in general tbh 03:11:05 gammafunk: oops i forgot 03:11:16 It will probably be within next couple of days, but it starts at 5:30-8:30pm usually and I have to ascend my current char (which will take an hour maybe) 03:11:27 what timezone? 03:11:47 SteelNeuron: I'll try to ping when I start IJC, if you're in channel 03:11:54 US Central 03:13:22 and yeah if you miss it, there will be VODs, not that watching those are as good as responding to questions live 03:13:25 Hmm... I'm afraid I'll have to catch the VOD 03:13:37 Well, I can try... But that's like 3 AM over here 03:13:47 well, I'm sure I'll have questions and can ask you after I'm done 03:14:00 I'll definitely watch the VOD and have answers if I can make it live ;) 03:14:04 can't 03:16:05 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:21:46 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:23:13 Stable (0.19) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.19.4-8-ga85b6b9 03:24:11 -!- meff` has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:35:32 -!- LordSloth has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 03:40:05 -!- laj1 has joined ##crawl-dev 03:52:22 -!- Yermak has joined ##crawl-dev 03:55:34 PlatinumSpider (L2 DECj) ASSERT(nargs > 0) in 'macro.cc' at line 1502 failed. (D:1) 04:00:51 PlatinumSpider (L2 DECj) ASSERT(nargs > 0) in 'macro.cc' at line 1502 failed. (D:1) 04:05:33 Lightning rod will never recharge if you use not all charges. This is stupid. 04:07:20 PlatinumSpider (L3 DECj) ASSERT(nargs > 0) in 'macro.cc' at line 1502 failed. (D:2) 04:09:07 !crash PlatinumSpider 04:09:08 9. PlatinumSpider, XL13 FeMo, T:27498 (milestone): http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/PlatinumSpider/crash-PlatinumSpider-20170131-134020.txt 04:09:24 hm. That's corruption from an older version 04:09:48 -!- epsik has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:13:29 PlatinumSpider (L4 DECj) ASSERT(nargs > 0) in 'macro.cc' at line 1502 failed. (D:2) 04:15:40 PlatinumSpider (L4 DECj) ASSERT(nargs > 0) in 'macro.cc' at line 1502 failed. (D:3) 04:19:52 -!- Dixie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:27:04 PlatinumSpider (L5 DECj) ASSERT(nargs > 0) in 'macro.cc' at line 1502 failed. (D:4) 04:27:33 PlatinumSpider (L5 DECj) ASSERT(nargs > 0) in 'macro.cc' at line 1502 failed. (D:4) 04:30:55 PlatinumSpider (L6 DECj) ASSERT(nargs > 0) in 'macro.cc' at line 1502 failed. (D:4) 04:32:42 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 04:33:06 -!- _yeeve has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:34:05 -!- zhiyi has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:34:09 PlatinumSpider (L6 DECj) ASSERT(nargs > 0) in 'macro.cc' at line 1502 failed. (D:4) 04:34:15 -!- zhiyi has joined ##crawl-dev 04:37:31 -!- Bloaxor has joined ##crawl-dev 04:40:36 PlatinumSpider (L7 DECj) ASSERT(nargs > 0) in 'macro.cc' at line 1502 failed. (D:6) 04:40:49 -!- Bloax has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 04:40:54 PlatinumSpider (L7 DECj) ASSERT(nargs > 0) in 'macro.cc' at line 1502 failed. (D:6) 04:41:14 PlatinumSpider (L7 DECj) ASSERT(nargs > 0) in 'macro.cc' at line 1502 failed. (D:6) 04:41:34 PlatinumSpider (L7 DECj) ASSERT(nargs > 0) in 'macro.cc' at line 1502 failed. (D:6) 04:42:06 PlatinumSpider (L7 DECj) ASSERT(nargs > 0) in 'macro.cc' at line 1502 failed. (D:6) 04:42:26 PlatinumSpider (L7 DECj) ASSERT(nargs > 0) in 'macro.cc' at line 1502 failed. (D:6) 04:42:48 PlatinumSpider (L7 DECj) ASSERT(nargs > 0) in 'macro.cc' at line 1502 failed. (D:6) 04:43:33 PlatinumSpider (L7 DECj) ASSERT(nargs > 0) in 'macro.cc' at line 1502 failed. (D:6) 04:43:56 PlatinumSpider (L7 DECj) ASSERT(nargs > 0) in 'macro.cc' at line 1502 failed. (D:6) 04:44:20 PlatinumSpider (L7 DECj) ASSERT(nargs > 0) in 'macro.cc' at line 1502 failed. (D:6) 04:44:37 holy batspam 04:48:55 huh the yellow mouse box in webtiles isn't lined up with my actual mouse 04:49:07 like it's scaled to half from the top right 04:49:30 if I put my mouse in the top right they line up 04:49:42 if I put it in the bottom left the yellow box is in the centre 04:49:48 I mean 04:49:52 switch left and right 04:50:08 not that I use a mouse :P 04:50:57 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:53:15 PlatinumSpider (L7 DECj) ASSERT(nargs > 0) in 'macro.cc' at line 1502 failed. (D:6) 04:53:35 PlatinumSpider (L7 DECj) ASSERT(nargs > 0) in 'macro.cc' at line 1502 failed. (D:6) 04:53:51 PlatinumSpider (L7 DECj) ASSERT(nargs > 0) in 'macro.cc' at line 1502 failed. (D:6) 04:55:07 -!- eb has quit [] 04:58:12 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 04:58:30 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/99797890309840896/278101993225191424/crawl.png 04:58:45 here figured out how to include the mouse in a screenshot 04:58:55 mouse is near centre of screen 04:58:56 PlatinumSpider (L8 DECj) ASSERT(nargs > 0) in 'macro.cc' at line 1502 failed. (D:6) 04:59:38 PlatinumSpider (L8 DECj) ASSERT(nargs > 0) in 'macro.cc' at line 1502 failed. (D:6) 04:59:55 PlatinumSpider (L8 DECj) ASSERT(nargs > 0) in 'macro.cc' at line 1502 failed. (D:6) 05:00:16 PlatinumSpider (L8 DECj) ASSERT(nargs > 0) in 'macro.cc' at line 1502 failed. (D:6) 05:00:37 PlatinumSpider (L8 DECj) ASSERT(nargs > 0) in 'macro.cc' at line 1502 failed. (D:6) 05:01:04 PlatinumSpider (L8 DECj) ASSERT(nargs > 0) in 'macro.cc' at line 1502 failed. (D:6) 05:01:41 PlatinumSpider (L8 DECj) ASSERT(nargs > 0) in 'macro.cc' at line 1502 failed. (D:6) 05:01:59 God, PlatinumSpider is determined to carry on with that game :) 05:02:05 maybe someone should tell hellmonk 05:02:18 PlatinumSpider (L8 DECj) ASSERT(nargs > 0) in 'macro.cc' at line 1502 failed. (D:6) 05:02:33 PlatinumSpider (L8 DECj) ASSERT(nargs > 0) in 'macro.cc' at line 1502 failed. (D:6) 05:02:45 ah, is he playing hellcrawl 05:02:50 PlatinumSpider (L8 DECj) ASSERT(nargs > 0) in 'macro.cc' at line 1502 failed. (D:6) 05:03:03 PlatinumSpider (L8 DECj) ASSERT(nargs > 0) in 'macro.cc' at line 1502 failed. (D:6) 05:03:25 PlatinumSpider (L8 DECj) ASSERT(nargs > 0) in 'macro.cc' at line 1502 failed. (D:6) 05:03:43 PlatinumSpider (L8 DECj) ASSERT(nargs > 0) in 'macro.cc' at line 1502 failed. (D:6) 05:04:11 PlatinumSpider (L8 DECj) ASSERT(nargs > 0) in 'macro.cc' at line 1502 failed. (D:6) 05:04:35 PlatinumSpider (L8 DECj) ASSERT(nargs > 0) in 'macro.cc' at line 1502 failed. (D:6) 05:06:01 yep he is 05:06:26 It's weird though, when I try to look at his crash log I only see an old council god one 05:06:35 But this crash he's getting is from casting searing ray on hellcrawl 05:11:28 -!- eb_mobile has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:20:28 -!- Ratatosk has joined ##crawl-dev 05:23:11 Kramin: are you on a mac? 05:25:20 yes 05:26:05 -!- zhiyi has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:26:08 I can’t reproduce the same issue but there seems to be something wrong witht the mouse in chrome in fullscreen 05:26:30 -!- zhiyi has joined ##crawl-dev 05:27:32 also happens when not in fullscreen 05:27:56 could just be a chrome thing 05:28:41 mac does some 2x scaling thing for legacy app support which may have something to do with it? 05:28:58 like for apps which would look really small on retina 05:29:20 wouldn't think that would affect chrome but idk 05:29:44 ah that might be it My machine is legacy enough 05:30:06 but it doesn’t seem to be a crawl issue as far as I can tell 05:30:35 do you have a retina display? 05:31:20 I just know that my display is 2560x1600 but e.g. most games see it as a 1280x800 display 05:32:02 no pre retina 05:32:21 the scaling seems to be exactly halving from the top left so I just have a hunch this is relevant somehow 05:33:12 -!- zhiyi has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:34:11 -!- zhiyi has joined ##crawl-dev 05:34:26 huh 05:34:51 if (ftype == DNGN_ENTER_SHOP || feat_is_altar(ftype)) 05:34:51 { 05:34:51 if (you.berserk()) 05:34:51 canned_msg(MSG_TOO_BERSERK); 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you need to either apply 5dbd49c8dc, or else change the call in cast_searing_ray to insert_commands(msg, CMD_WAIT, 0); 08:13:58 |amethyst: OK, I'll let hellmonk know. 08:15:56 Stable (0.19) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.19.4-8-ga85b6b9 08:17:10 -!- zhiyi has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:17:55 -!- zhiyi has joined ##crawl-dev 08:30:09 -!- Ratatosk has quit [Quit: Ratatosk] 08:34:34 -!- eb has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:34:47 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:38:44 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:42:45 -!- TuxQmoob has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:47:31 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:47:46 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Changing host] 08:48:05 -!- Ratatosk has joined ##crawl-dev 08:57:47 -!- bannakaf_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:05:44 unrand idea: A sling that gives bullets pierce and ricochet (like Shock zapping) but with much longer range 09:05:49 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 09:08:41 -!- HellTiger_NB has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:09:44 -!- Lasty has quit [Client Quit] 09:18:10 -!- zhiyi has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:18:56 -!- zhiyi has joined ##crawl-dev 09:22:44 -!- grisha5 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:24:30 -!- Ratatosk has quit [Quit: Ratatosk] 09:34:26 -!- Ratatosk has joined ##crawl-dev 09:36:05 -!- Bloaxor has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 09:41:27 -!- myp has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:41:34 -!- us17 has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 09:48:10 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 09:54:39 -!- RBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:59:31 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 10:00:05 -!- _yee has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:08:02 -!- nikheizen has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:08:11 -!- Ratatosk has quit [Quit: Ratatosk] 10:09:15 -!- PKrockin has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:13:26 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:16:13 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Changing host] 10:19:33 -!- zhiyi has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:19:58 -!- zhiyi has joined ##crawl-dev 10:40:32 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:47:35 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 10:50:58 -!- adelrune has joined ##crawl-dev 10:55:55 -!- Xenobreeder has joined ##crawl-dev 10:56:24 -!- atrodo has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 10:59:05 -!- zhiyi has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:59:13 -!- zhiyi has joined ##crawl-dev 11:09:14 -!- bannakaffalatta has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 11:10:46 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 11:12:41 -!- Pleasingfungus has joined ##crawl-dev 11:25:04 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:25:25 -!- MgDark_ is now known as MgDark 11:25:58 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 11:31:28 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:31:35 -!- MgDark_ is now known as MgDark 11:36:26 -!- yesno has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:39:10 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:44:09 -!- zhiyi has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:44:54 -!- zhiyi has joined ##crawl-dev 11:47:09 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:54:02 -!- zhiyi has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:54:04 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:54:09 -!- zhiyi has joined ##crawl-dev 11:56:03 -!- adelrune has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:58:09 -!- beatdown has quit [Quit: Severed corpses make good fucks.] 12:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:00:39 -!- sanka has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:05:47 -!- Dixie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:10:25 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 12:10:32 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:12:32 -!- Lasty has quit [Client Quit] 12:13:24 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 12:14:03 -!- Menche has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:14:59 -!- adelrune has joined ##crawl-dev 12:22:36 Stable (0.19) branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.19.4-8-ga85b6b9 12:24:16 looking for a second opinion on #423 before I merge it 12:24:29 I went over the code and it looks solid, tested it and couldn't find any immediately obvious bugs/crashes 12:24:37 documentation game is strong 12:24:46 !pull 423 12:25:16 there's a couple questions in the pull about inversion of return values but I'm not sure what to do about these yet 12:25:21 i glanced over that at some point and didn't see any obvious problems, but that code all scares me 12:25:21 Pleasingfungus: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 12:25:44 you pinged me about yara's but i don't understand the reasoning 12:26:56 yara's seems to thematically fit alchemy better (don't ask me to justify this, gut feeling) and I think enchantments has plenty of good spells already 12:27:07 alchemy is kind of overlooked as a book 12:27:17 ??book of alchemy 12:27:17 book of alchemy[1/1]: Sublimation of Blood, Alistair's Intoxication, Petrify, Ignite Poison, Irradiate 12:27:19 ??book of enchantments 12:27:20 book of enchantments[1/1]: Cause Fear, Silence, Deflect Missiles, Haste, Discord. Also contained Tukima's Dance in 0.16 and earlier. 12:27:21 and it has multiple spells that would play nicely with yara 12:27:30 petrify and...? 12:27:40 or is that one out of date too 12:27:45 does irradiate not put a magical enchantment? 12:27:52 it does not 12:27:55 hm 12:27:57 you can't dispel malmutation 12:28:00 oh 12:28:04 that would be silly 12:28:26 as for 423 the code looks like it's just a thorough refactoring of the, probably ancient, equipping code 12:28:49 let me just go and try to equip everything to see if I can trip it up 12:28:49 !learn s book_of_enchantments[1 Cause Fear, Yara's Violent Unravelling, Silence, Deflect Missiles, Discord 12:28:49 book of enchantments[1/1]: Cause Fear, Yara's Violent Unravelling, Silence, Deflect Missiles, Discord 12:29:00 hm, actually.... 12:29:16 ah, yeah, that's in stable. good. 12:29:32 anyway, yara's doesn't really feel like alchemy to me 12:29:43 not a strong opinion, just my take 12:31:12 Doesnty, would gloves of boxing affect to offhand punches? 12:38:03 -!- zhiyi has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:38:27 -!- zhiyi has joined ##crawl-dev 12:39:19 -!- Kranix has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 12:40:33 Pleasingfungus, 423 has a merge commit. If I merge the PR will that merge commit show up in the master commit history? Or do I need to squash that myself locally with git before pushing? 12:41:39 have you edited 423 at all? 12:41:46 no 12:42:03 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/423/commits 12:42:19 i'll deal with it 12:42:28 rebase automatically deals with trivial merge commits 12:42:39 oh, right 12:42:44 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 12:45:26 oh, too late 12:45:30 you merged it 12:45:36 Sorry, I did? 12:45:46 %git 666c3b39d8cf1577947c06670ca06e8d313328e2 12:45:46 07Brannock02 {GitHub} * 0.20-a0-572-g666c3b3: Merge pull request #440 from jiocy/patch-2 10(23 hours ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/666c3b39d8cf 12:45:53 that's another one 12:46:05 oh, this is all tangled up 12:46:07 hold on, let me poke 12:46:20 that's 440, we want 423 12:46:43 423 has a merge commit inside it, 440 was just a clean commit that I merged directly 12:46:53 I wasn't sure if I merged 423 whether two merge commits would show up 12:47:06 03Colin Morris02 {PleasingFungus} 07* 0.20-a0-579-g160a424: Remove some spurious warnings on equip attempts. 10(5 weeks ago, 6 files, 230+ 87-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/160a424c5bda 12:47:12 the one inside the PR, and the merge commit that merges the PR 12:47:12 probably would, yes 12:47:13 not that it's the end of the world 12:47:30 you could test locally 12:50:47 testing minmay's patch now 12:50:54 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 12:54:35 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:56:18 haha, the ignition tile is quality. 12:56:22 much better than my scarf 13:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:00:35 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:00:43 -!- MgDark_ is now known as MgDark 13:02:09 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 13:02:29 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 13:02:41 ignition wipes out large crowds, this is very funny 13:02:48 animation could stand to be a tad longer 13:03:06 though I guess all the message spam accomplishes that anyway 13:05:05 -!- yesno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:06:14 I honestly think this is too strong right now 13:09:04 -!- adelrune has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:09:29 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.20-a0-579-g160a424 (34) 13:09:58 even without overlapping the effects, simply spending 3 more mana to fireball everything on screen is ridiculously effective. 13:10:11 on the other hand, level 8 spell. 13:11:54 I think this is much more powerful than Chain Lightning and Crystal Spear, though 13:13:34 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:14:43 yeah, chain lightning straight up doesn't measure up. you zap like 4 deep elven annihilators (at power 75) before it grounds out and it dosen't kill any of them. ignition will completely obliterate that crowd 13:15:14 I think maybe making it half power of a regular fireball would be fine 13:18:14 well, it should definitely be pretty substantially better than both of those spells against larger groups 13:18:38 since they're mainly for use against single targets, where this would be pretty useless in comparison 13:18:45 the thing is, against small groups it's still better than chain lightning. 3 elves die much more quickly to triple fireball than to chain lightning 13:18:52 I chopped damage into half and am testing this 13:23:42 chain lightning is a single-target damage spell 13:23:52 i was talking to people about this the other night 13:24:12 it does massive damage to single targets and weak damage to groups. hence, cast it against single targets, and use other spells against groups 13:24:18 even at half damage it's enormously effective against crowds 13:24:36 might make a couple further tweaks but I'll submit as a branch soon 13:25:03 also "3 more mana" is a misguided objection to power. higher level spells are supposed to be more effective per mp spend; fire storm is only 3 more mp than bolt of fire 13:25:42 Up to 20-25 times more effective? 13:26:03 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:26:14 -!- MgDark_ is now known as MgDark 13:26:43 sure 13:26:46 in the right circumstances 13:27:27 compare fire storm to bolt of fire, glaciate to bolt of cold 13:27:47 fireball to throw flame 13:29:04 definitely the fact that it requires multiple enemies to all be adjacent to even be worth casting seems like a pretty big deal, too 13:29:19 not all, but enough, but yeah 13:29:27 I might adjust power up a bit from half 13:29:38 oh neat, the abyss entrance animation in local tiles 13:29:39 I hadn't seen that before 13:29:44 remember: it's better for a new thing to be strong (and then tweaked downward) than weak (and never used) 13:30:52 the power spiral cost...... 13:30:57 lol 13:30:57 (but yes, i'd tend to agree) 13:31:01 Pleasingfungus: I don't agree with that 13:31:48 Brannock, gloves of boxing would actually affect all aux attacks as long as your weapon hand is empty 13:32:01 i need to tweak that because i didn't realize it until this morning 13:32:05 I was actually thinking the version in the patch was too weak, though 13:32:09 Doesnty, I was curious about offhand punch because boxing gloves would make wielding 1H + no shield an interesting decision 13:32:15 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 13:32:25 mhm 13:32:34 but I probably fight monsters one-on-one more often than most people 13:32:35 bring back the uc penalty for shields 13:32:36 logically it should only work for the main unarmed attack and any off-hand punch aux 13:32:53 minmay, most of my testing was in vaults/depths/elf. it's obviously weak when fighting 1-2 enemies only 13:32:57 but i will leave the decision to y'all 13:33:02 i am bad at judging aux value 13:33:03 i don't see the appeal at all for that ego 13:33:04 but it clears out a *ton* of chaff and can severely damage dangerous enemies if they're surrounded by friends 13:33:25 that seems good 13:33:39 nearly wiping out a full draconian pack with one cast at 75-80~ power 13:33:39 which isn't difficult to attain 13:33:51 (gloves of archery are not a good comparison imo because those also shouldn't be a thing probably) 13:34:06 lots of shit can wipe out draconian packs 13:34:17 i love em but they're not exactly the toughest enemies in zot 13:34:45 Brannock: I suggest you compare it to refrigeration instead of lower level fire spells 13:37:15 it's tempting to compare it to fireball since they both scale with power at the same rate (whereas ignition scales better than refrigeration) but refrigeration is the more similar spell 13:39:45 New branch created: ignite (2 commits) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/tree/ignite 13:39:45 03minmay02 {Brannock} 07[ignite] * 0.20-a0-579-g4b45f01: Replace Delayed Fireball with new spell: Ignition 10(11 hours ago, 22 files, 189+ 14-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4b45f010312a 13:39:45 03Brannock02 07[ignite] * 0.20-a0-580-g08c8310: Reduce Ignition's damage 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/08c8310071e6 13:39:52 other devs feel free to play around with this 13:40:03 after ~30 min of testing it has my seal of approval for experimentation in trunk 13:40:11 -!- eb_mobile has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:43:38 oh, i want to see the icon 13:43:50 hahaha 13:43:52 awesome 13:43:57 https://raw.githubusercontent.com/crawl/crawl/4b45f010312af682b850ee98a0cd3b68a0051595/crawl-ref/source/rltiles/gui/spells/fire/ignition.png 13:45:28 -!- equivobot has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:52:27 -!- Dixie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:55:31 <|amethyst> goodness gracious 13:55:45 <|amethyst> those balls of fire are great 13:57:19 03Brannock02 07[scarf] * 0.20-a0-580-gc018937: Introduce fashionable scarves 10(20 hours ago, 12 files, 42+ 8-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c0189372c79f 13:57:19 03Brannock02 07[scarf] * 0.20-a0-581-gb64e68d: Forget Repel Missiles 10(19 hours ago, 5 files, 1+ 15-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b64e68d460e7 13:57:19 03Brannock02 07[scarf] * 0.20-a0-582-g3d4f66d: Move Lightning Spire from Sky into Air 10(17 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3d4f66db6086 13:57:19 03Brannock02 07[scarf] * 0.20-a0-583-g475ca87: Introduce a new armour ego: Repulsion 10(17 hours ago, 13 files, 48+ 7-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/475ca87dadf2 13:57:19 03Brannock02 07[scarf] * 0.20-a0-584-g7da0003: Remove spirit shield from hats 10(17 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7da0003fcccd 13:57:21 Okay cleaned up my scarf branch and rewrote my commit messages 13:57:45 |amethyst: oh dear 13:58:08 <|amethyst> eh, I think it's fine, perverts will see whatever they want to see wherever they want to see it 13:58:27 the caster and their allies are protected from the balls 14:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:00:08 hm 14:00:16 do I need to block RMsl from showing up in randart books? 14:00:37 fuck i forgot to do that for delayed fireball 14:00:45 not if it's removed from all fixed books 14:00:50 oh, okay 14:00:52 oh i was wondering if that was enough 14:01:05 I think scarf branch is complete, then 14:01:19 <|amethyst> You might still want to mark it as removed, if you want people who already have such a book not to be able to memorise/cast it 14:01:33 I was looking into that but I didn't want to remove it from monsters entirely 14:01:40 and I think marking it as removed would have done that? 14:02:00 <|amethyst> ah, yes 14:02:10 <|amethyst> that said, I'm not sure monster rmsl needs to exist 14:02:14 <|amethyst> as a spell 14:02:45 <|amethyst> hm, didn't we have a monster flag for that? 14:02:47 could just be the enchantment if anything yeah 14:03:25 <|amethyst> oh, I guess it's not a flag currently 14:03:27 yeah it was changed from a constant thing to a spell 14:03:35 <|amethyst> it's "if they have the spell, they start with the enchantment" 14:07:50 -!- G-Flex has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:09:25 -!- G-Flex has joined ##crawl-dev 14:10:15 I'm ready to push scarves. Any more yeas/nays? 14:10:37 should probably have the same size range on scarves as cloaks 14:11:21 I figured smaller things would be able to wear a scarf more easily than a cloak, but I suppose it doesn't have any actual mechanical impact for tiny vs small, does it? 14:11:44 not until we add Ant-Men (not like formicids, they're literally ant-sized) 14:11:56 no tiny forms can wear cloaks, but also allowing one type of item but not another for a given slot is messy and bad and reminds me to remove it for fungusform 14:12:08 i thought you did remove it 14:12:18 also i can't believe you hate Mushroom Caps 14:12:19 MarvinPA: bring back mountain dwarves minotaurs cant wear helmets reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee 14:12:19 if i did, i did a bad job! 14:12:27 helmets are small-medium, hats are tiny-large 14:12:33 maybe i'm thinking of the time i removed it and then unremoved it 14:12:50 currently you can transform into a fungus with a helmet on and it stays (because fungus form doesn't meld the helmet slot) 14:12:50 hmmmmmm 14:12:54 but if you transform into a fungus and then try to put a helmet on, you can't (because you're tiny and helmets are too big) 14:12:59 that doesn't seem right at all 14:13:03 maybe i fucked up.... 14:13:22 yeah oops 14:13:24 %git b5556e9b5b396cb9684b6e4192c00af64c7c5ba8 14:13:24 07MarvinPA02 * 0.20-a0-117-gb5556e9: Let fungus form wear all helmets 10(3 months ago, 1 file, 0+ 16-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b5556e9b5b39 14:13:29 i failed... 14:13:34 oh. this IS your fault!!! 14:13:39 i feel better now 14:13:55 bucklers are little-medium, shields small-big, large shields medium-giant 14:14:12 still, I agree there's no real reason for scarves to have this inconsistency 14:15:01 any other changes needed? 14:16:12 rmsl looks like it ought to have some cleanup? since it can never expire now, for the player 14:17:21 yeah, looks like ablate_deflection is dead now? 14:17:28 well 14:17:29 only half of it 14:17:33 <|amethyst> did you remove D 14:17:35