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GCC 7 is certainly new enough to know about std::function. my two guesses are (1) somehow the 'using namespace std;' doesn't get processed before this line is encountered; (2) the flags passed to gcc cause it to compile against some old version of the c++ standard? 08:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:01:45 -!- geekosaur has quit [Excess Flood] 08:04:35 <|amethyst> amalloy: (3) isn't being #included 08:04:42 -!- geekosaur has joined ##crawl-dev 08:05:08 <|amethyst> amalloy: it probably works elsewhere because some other header pulls in 08:07:12 that looks like the flags are right so it doesn't sound like (2) 08:07:26 looks like a namespace issue to me 08:13:13 -!- us17 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:13:56 -!- EuphOria has quit [Quit: EuphOria] 08:18:51 |amethyst: but why does it work for other compilers? 08:19:17 regardless of compiler there should be the same set of headers included 08:19:29 <|amethyst> amalloy: because some other libstdc++ header happens to #include so we get it indirectly 08:19:39 <|amethyst> amalloy: and that was probably cleaned up in version 7 08:19:40 ah, i see 08:19:42 -!- bannakaffalatta has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:20:20 so it's not an #include in *our* code that's different, but rather one in the library code that we were getting by accident 08:20:31 <|amethyst> yeah, that's my suspicion 08:20:39 <|amethyst> we definitely don't #include it anywhere near enough 08:20:56 well if you need any more wrong diagnoses let me know 08:21:42 <|amethyst> it looks like the following need #include : describe.h game-options.h invent.h item-use.h libutil.h mon-info.h mon-util.h monster.h randbook.h spl-util.h artefact.cc attack.cc describe.cc directn.cc invent.cc item-use.cc mon-cast.cc mon-place.cc randbook.cc terrain.cc xom.cc 08:22:04 <|amethyst> probably some of those could live without it because they include one of the .h files I listed 08:22:25 <|amethyst> e.g. item-use.cc includes item-use.h 08:22:37 <|amethyst> and lots of them include mon-util.h directly or indirectly 08:23:42 <|amethyst> "simplest" fix is to #include it in AppHdr.h, but that would pay for parsing in every single translation unit 08:40:35 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 08:49:47 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:53:39 -!- adelrune has joined ##crawl-dev 08:56:16 -!- Menche has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:56:51 -!- ololoev has quit [Client Quit] 08:59:40 |amethyst: otoh if we do the targeted fixes you suggest, we will run into the issue again next time someone uses without including it, because it will work in whatever version of libstdc++ is currently used 09:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:02:47 -!- waat has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:04:07 <|amethyst> amalloy: hm, I wonder if we can get travis to do a g++ 7 build in addition to 4.7 09:04:19 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 09:05:58 -!- Lasty has quit [Client Quit] 09:07:26 that, combined with your targeted fixes, sounds like a good idea to me if we can do it 09:08:27 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 09:09:40 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 09:15:37 "Done, amalloy is now a DGL admin." 09:15:47 thanks Medar 09:18:23 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 09:26:16 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 09:28:38 -!- eb has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:30:57 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:39:31 -!- rumflump has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:47:14 -!- neunon has quit [Quit: ZNC - 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Relative to what) 12:23:59 Yes, I agree 12:24:15 i think it would be pretty straightforward to add, gammafunk 12:24:21 But if I was new I could be misled to think that the game expresses its times in a scale of "short, relatively short, relatively long, long"... 12:24:25 do it for me, alexjurkiewicz 12:24:30 relatively choko 12:24:30 god damn it 12:24:35 almost entirely choko 12:24:37 go it for me, amalloy 12:24:46 your best friend and favorite twitch streamer 12:24:55 sorry, you can't re-delegate. alexjurkiewicz is assigned now and forever 12:26:24 -!- geekosaur has quit [Excess Flood] 12:26:43 -!- geekosaur has joined ##crawl-dev 12:27:52 i'll see what i can do though 12:32:14 MarvinPA: Did you read my message last night btw? 12:32:59 yeah, haven't looked at the changes yet though 12:33:53 No worries. I'm honestly glad that you've been critical. It often rubs me the wrong way at first but every time it has been an improvement. 12:34:07 I would've left the god as it were, but I realized that ability really didn't fit 12:34:13 so thanks for that 12:37:18 gammafunk: do you know how i can test monster spec parsing/lookup locally? 12:38:07 hrm 12:38:15 I think...isn't it a binary that reads from stdin? 12:38:38 -!- HarryHood has quit [Client Quit] 12:38:44 so you could < $(echo @??blah) or whatever the syntax is 12:38:47 or just put it in a file 12:38:52 maybe it reads from the command line 12:39:02 yeah but where is the binary 12:39:03 I'm not sure which you're asking me, how to make it or how to run it 12:39:08 oh 12:39:14 maybe i'll just use &m 12:39:19 to create an enslaved xtahua 12:40:45 amalloy: it's in util/monster 12:40:59 that's a folder, the binary would be in there I think 12:41:27 not sure if that's where it ends up, but monster-main.cc is in there 12:42:44 -!- dondy has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 12:46:06 yes, &m is good enough to show my code is being run but getting incorrect answers 12:50:13 -!- Boatshow has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:58:04 New branch created: enslaved-monster-parsing (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/tree/enslaved-monster-parsing 12:58:04 03amalloy02 07[enslaved-monster-parsing] * 0.20-a0-542-g861a440: WIP on parsing 'enslaved xtahua' 10(39 seconds ago, 1 file, 14+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/861a4404fdad 12:58:19 gammafunk: i gotta go, but ^ is a useful starting point. it parses "enslaved xtahua" and creates an xtahua with MF_ENSLAVED_SOUL set, but apparently that is not enough to actually make it be enslaved 12:58:38 -!- simmarine_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:58:39 ok, I can take a look later, thanks 13:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:00:34 -!- Bammboo has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:01:08 -!- Harudoku has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:01:33 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 13:01:34 -!- simmarine has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:02:33 -!- Bammboobies_ is now known as Bammboo 13:04:48 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:04:58 -!- Bammboobies has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:07:45 -!- Elyvilon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:08:21 it should be a spectral thing as well as having the enslaved flag, right? that'd just create an xtahua with the flag 13:08:37 and then i think stuff like spells gets special-cased to be given to them, too 13:09:27 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.20-a0-549-g403078a (34) 13:10:48 -!- adelrune has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:10:50 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 13:13:28 -!- simmarine_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:16:17 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:20:49 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:29:14 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 13:29:17 -!- SurpriseTRex_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:31:08 -!- adelrune has joined ##crawl-dev 13:31:41 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 13:32:10 -!- eb_mobile has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:33:52 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:36:11 -!- bannakaffalatta has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:36:50 -!- kroki_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:39:08 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 13:40:35 -!- dondy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:41:08 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 13:44:39 -!- jeefus has joined ##crawl-dev 13:45:39 -!- Kranix has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:45:43 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 13:45:44 The build passed. 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Yet 17:21:53 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 17:22:01 -!- MgDark_ is now known as MgDark 17:22:18 Anyway lemme figure out how to de-mangle my git thread, run a few tests to make sure the fix works (I don't doubt it does), then ti's going in 17:22:40 cool, thanks for dealing with it 17:22:52 I needed to get back into the flow and decided to start by looking over the PRs :) 17:23:18 -!- SurpriseTRex_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:29:07 -!- XVar has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:29:21 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 17:29:27 -!- MgDark_ is now known as MgDark 17:30:57 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 17:32:35 -!- noyes is now known as Dracunos 17:33:33 -!- flappity has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:35:44 hmm 17:36:28 -!- Kranix has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 17:36:32 i wonder if there should be a yes/no prompt for walking next to acid walls. but i kind of think it would be more annoying for players familiar with the mechanic than it would be helpful for new players 17:36:49 it would be very annoying I think 17:36:49 the message is enough 17:37:01 you could probably do a yesno for if you're below some amount of health 17:37:11 "Your next step may kill you. Step anyway?" 17:37:27 but that seems a bit handholdy 17:37:52 <|amethyst> Brannock: IMO losing recursion doesn't necessarily mean losing that mechanic 17:38:17 <|amethyst> Brannock: it just means you have to explicitly take that into account up front 17:38:20 I guess you could implement it differently 17:38:20 Yeah 17:39:07 can you set up a yes/no prompt in the rc? 17:39:27 or is it a "yes, with a lot of lua magic, but no otherwise" type of thing? 17:40:11 <|amethyst> probably "partially, with a lot of lua magic" 17:40:22 <|amethyst> e.g. you could write a wrapper around the movement commands 17:40:43 <|amethyst> but then what about other ways of repositioning yourself 17:41:12 03advil02 {Brannock} 07* 0.20-a0-550-gf70bbbc: Fix for pain bond and aux attacks (10472) 10(7 days ago, 3 files, 23+ 7-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f70bbbcf307f 17:41:56 heh 17:42:02 i'm not going to worry about it 17:42:10 i was just curious 17:42:36 Thanks Brannock! 17:43:45 I'm interested in trying to figure out other obscure bugs if anyone has suggestions 17:44:12 hmm, let me go over my todo 17:44:22 there was one I worked on months back that I threw up my hands at 17:45:41 advil, https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10599 17:46:04 I'm not sure what desirable behavior would be in this case, though 17:46:11 might not even be a bug, really 17:46:13 sounds interesting 17:46:28 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10596 and https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10314 are bugs 17:47:02 that seems.....odd 17:47:08 the first one i mean 17:47:33 I'm not sure if it's a bug but I kept getting slept and woken instantly on the same turn when testing dream sheep back in August 17:47:47 So unless players were carefully reading message logs, they'd just suddenly take a ton of damage 17:48:00 Maybe a way to clear that up is to color the sleep message or something 17:48:19 I suppose one possible behavior might be a more after the damage 17:48:22 yeah 17:48:50 -!- Jetnerd has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:57:09 does noise wake up players 17:57:50 iirc yes 17:57:56 <|amethyst> yes 17:58:08 <|amethyst> !source _actor_apply_noise 17:58:09 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/shout.cc#L40 17:58:11 <|amethyst> the first if there 17:58:18 <|amethyst> err, the first branch of the if 17:58:30 <|amethyst> and 17:58:34 <|amethyst> !source player::check_awaken 17:58:35 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/player.cc#L7381 17:59:14 new dream sheep counter: fulminant prism 17:59:25 I believe you suggested exactly that a few months ago 18:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:00:13 -!- laj1 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:01:59 maybe I did 18:02:27 what would the feeling be on replacing delayed fireball with a new level 7 or 8 fire/conjuration spell 18:03:08 -!- exant has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:03:16 depends on what the spell is, maybe 18:03:33 imo delayed fireball is not very exciting, but I rarely play characters who can/want to use it in the first place 18:03:45 I guess what I'm really asking is "are people attached to delayed fireball" 18:04:00 because it's problematic in the same way rmsl/dmsl is 18:04:24 and it's literally a copy of fireball but with that problem added 18:07:41 -!- Ququman has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:09:06 found it; november 22nd 18:09:12 when you came up with anti-sheep bomb tech 18:09:16 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.20-a0-550-gf70bbbc (34) 18:09:19 I'm not personally attached to delayball 18:09:22 dunno about other devs 18:09:32 fire magic already has a Lot of conj/fire spells 18:13:55 -!- ddubois has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:14:20 Brannock, advil: thanks for the fix on that. I do like recursion on pain bond, but if it's too much trouble I'm sure we could preserve the effect without doing the calculations that way 18:14:53 -!- Alarkh has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:15:45 I like that densely packed crowds are much more affected 18:15:54 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.20-a0-550-gf70bbbc (34) 18:17:25 no problem, it was interesting 18:23:13 Brannock: re 10596 (paperdoll issue) that may have gone away, or there were more specific conditions; I can't replicate it for 0.19.4 or trunk (OS X) 18:23:51 there have been some changes to the menu code since then, so maybe it was fixed 18:25:36 hmm, let me try that with my local trunk 18:25:53 -!- Dracunos has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:26:03 cant reproduce in local 18:26:06 guess it's fixed..? 18:26:08 (also I had no idea that menu existed or even what it does /console player) 18:26:16 -!- Dracunos_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:26:31 -!- Dracunos_ is now known as Dracunos 18:26:36 it lets you edit your character tiles and such 18:26:51 -!- matp has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:27:44 -!- bgiannan_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:28:55 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 18:28:56 The build has errored. (master - f70bbbc #7689 : advil): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/197470866 18:28:56 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 18:30:18 -!- scummos__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:30:29 doesn't look like a real error 18:30:32 yeah 18:30:59 I guess travis creates an entire build environment each time it runs? 18:32:20 -!- bgiannan_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:33:18 yes 18:33:24 and every so often has network glitches 18:33:39 "repeatable builds" 18:38:03 -!- apocdual has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:47:31 -!- Euph0ria has joined ##crawl-dev 18:48:57 Good day all. I have a question... Would contributions to crawl-related artwork be something a person could contribute to the project? 18:50:52 -!- Guest44239 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:51:05 -!- Basil is now known as Guest78592 18:51:41 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:52:14 -!- Cerpin has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:52:30 I enjoy the opening screen artwork, and the game kind of inspires imaginations as to what a creature may look like, or how a battle, or spell, or weapon may look, as well. 18:54:13 -!- Cerpin has joined ##crawl-dev 18:55:36 -!- Guest78592 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:56:29 Brannock: I was thinking of replacing delayed fireball with something ignition-like 18:57:14 Euph0ria, yes, absolutely. The more artists the merrier. ontoclasm/CanOfWorms/roctavian are our current (variously active) artists 18:57:26 minmay, line of explosions? 18:57:28 could be interesting 18:57:47 Brannock: probably to differentiate it from bolt of fire it would "ignite" everything onscreen or something 18:58:23 what about fire storm? 18:58:47 a second LOS nuke seems a bit much 18:58:53 well, fire storm isn't LOS 18:58:56 but a huge area 18:59:28 Brannock: That's great. Any specification that need to be met? (image size/ratio/color palette, etc) And where do I send the images? 19:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:00:21 the important property of ignition is that it's better when multiple monsters are adjacent to each other, since they get hit with multiple explosions each that way 19:00:31 I'm the wrong person to ask here; ontoclasm would be better whenever he gets back 19:01:05 hitting everything in LOS seems like the most unique non-stupid targeter, in the context of fire magic, since fireball and fire storm are already balls and bolt of fire is already a bolt 19:01:42 I forget, are ignition explosions 1 tile or 2 tile range? 19:01:47 1 19:01:49 fireball range 19:01:59 obviously you could change that though 19:02:44 solid concept imo 19:03:12 and it helps smooth out the escalation curve that Fire Magic takes 19:03:52 it does kind of steal design space from refrig, but i wanna do to yaktaur packs etc. what refrig does to krakens 19:05:14 yeah, the only reason I mention a replacement for delayed fireball is that it actually needs a replacement because ring of flames isn't a real spell so it'd have a gap at levels 7 and 8 19:05:57 -!- twelwe has joined ##crawl-dev 19:06:07 ignition: the level 8 forbidden single-school fire spell 19:09:53 -!- Kalir has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 19:20:29 -!- Pacra_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:28:07 I'd love to see more bolts turn into other things 19:29:45 I've been toying with the idea of a ranged DOT spell that deals damage to the target and monsters around the target -- maybe "crown of flies" or something to replace bolt of draining. Still thinking it through. 19:43:13 -!- filthy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:46:11 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:51:08 -!- hellmonk has joined ##crawl-dev 19:55:48 -!- Fixer has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:56:00 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:56:21 -!- Enthusiasm has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 19:56:26 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 19:58:50 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:05:45 -!- SurpriseTRex__ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:19:39 so, current design: level 8 fire spell, a radius 2 fireball explodes on top of all hostile monsters in LOS. if a monster was on a square when the spell was cast, that square gets a fireball, even if the monster died in the middle of the spell from another fireball 20:20:07 the fireballs don't hurt the caster but do hurt friendly monsters 20:22:00 that last part is kind of icky but if you let the fireballs hit the caster then it's a pain in the ass to use (and could do potentially absurd amounts of damage to the caster) 20:22:07 y tho 20:22:23 possibly radius 1 fireballs are better; my main concern is that the spell is probably too good in ziggurats 20:22:30 is this going to lead to the holy meme grail, firestorm removal???? 20:22:32 hellmonk: replacing delayed fireball 20:22:36 ah 20:22:57 because "fireball merged with rmsl" is not a good look 20:23:27 and people will whine if it doesn't get replaced with something since fire will have no real level 7 or 8 spells 20:24:25 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 20:26:53 Ring of Flames! 20:26:54 to be fair, it does have ring of fire, and ice has literally nothing at L7/8. Unless I'm forgetting something. 20:27:13 I addressed that earlier 20:27:16 ring of flames isn't a real spell 20:27:41 ice has simulacrum which is a level 7/8 spell masquerading as level 6 20:27:57 but yeah I'd also be happy with removing delayed fireball and not replacing it 20:28:16 I suspect that patch wouldn't be accepted though 20:30:40 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 20:35:07 what's wrong with ring of flames? 20:35:31 I'd be fine w/ that too. 20:39:13 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:45:42 -!- geekosaur has quit [Excess Flood] 20:47:01 so is this worth implementing 20:47:20 imo yes 20:47:38 it's flashy, it fixes a design problem with another spell, players will love it 20:47:46 -!- geekosaur has joined ##crawl-dev 20:47:53 well thats 1 pro and 2 cons 20:49:34 zing 20:50:02 one concern I do have is it overlaps with Qazlal's Disaster Zone 20:50:11 But I guess it doesn't leave behind terrain or use multiple types 20:50:19 and it also works slightly differently 20:50:25 does disaster zone depend on the monsters in LOS? 20:50:27 no 20:50:37 I was just thinking in terms of "lots of 3x3 explosions on screen" 20:50:39 seems like it has more overlap with refrigeration then 20:50:48 fr: actually rename disaster area to disaster zone 20:50:56 ??qazlal[2 20:50:56 qazlal[2/8]: While worshipping Qazlal at least one * of piety, the storm surrounding you makes noise every turn. The amount of noise grows as you gain piety, reaching the same volume as fireball at max. 20:51:00 ??qazlal[1 20:51:00 qazlal[1/8]: The violent god of natural disasters. Gives SH, temporary resists, RMsl, and clouds surrounding you in a small radius (and immunity to all clouds). See also {upheaval}, {disaster area}, and {elemental force}. 20:51:07 level 9 necromancy/earth spell: death metal disaster zone 20:51:16 \m/ 20:51:42 wasn't elemental force removed? 20:51:43 sorry 20:51:43 that's 20:51:45 ??elemental force 20:51:46 elemental force[1/1]: Qazlal's 3* ability. Spawns friendly elementals from your clouds, hostile elementals from clouds created by monsters and neutral elementals from other clouds. Higher invo gives more elementals. 20:51:46 \m/(°□°)\m/ 20:52:18 Brannock: no 20:52:31 I wasn't aware of anyone asking to remove it 20:52:43 unless I'm totally wrong, which is possible! 20:53:02 oh I got mixed up with the resistance gift I think 20:53:19 ah, yeah, that was indeed removed 20:53:26 gammafunk: is there like, a slightly larger or smaller somewhere in unicode 20:53:31 -!- Taraiph has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:53:37 man, I really wish there was 20:53:47 if you find out more symbols like that, let me no 20:53:50 new level 7 fire spell: sanic fire, it fires something but faster than normal (0.5 turns instead of a full turn) 20:54:00 !flip $(!flip) 20:54:01 (╯°□°)╯︵┻━┻︶╭(o□o╭) 20:54:04 u can figure out the rest on ur own 20:54:07 because that just doesn't look right 20:54:31 I guess I want won that's just a lower vertical position 20:54:34 which is not what you asked 20:54:46 !lg * status~~sleep 20:54:49 129. LAYA the Eclecticist (L14 DECj of Vehumet), mangled by an elephant on Lair:4 on 2017-02-01 17:38:28, with 53162 points after 21221 turns and 1:06:59. 20:54:53 up to 129, nice 20:54:57 when was that added? 20:55:00 do you have the vlong? 20:55:07 should make a kw for it 20:55:15 or just the commit hash 20:55:18 hang on 20:55:35 %git ffcfc1b5ab43686db5a090ee26c2b5f28b1bba1b 20:55:35 07Brannock02 * 0.20-a0-242-gffcfc1b: Don't let killing blows wake sleeping characters 10(9 weeks ago, 1 file, 5+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ffcfc1b5ab43 20:55:50 gammafunk: if you're trying to recreate mecha santa then one of the eyes should be bigger than the other one https://youtu.be/h4u411bD980?t=14m35s 20:56:01 !kw countsheep vlong>=0.20-a0-242-gffcfc1b 20:56:02 Defined keyword: countsheep => vlong>=0.20-a0-242-gffcfc1b 20:56:08 well 20:56:15 that's gonna include Aizul and satyrs and player enchanters 20:56:32 like half the sleep deaths are actually from Enchanter ghosts 20:56:32 Brannock: sorry? 20:56:33 -!- MarvinPA_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:56:36 filter for branch location 20:56:54 oh you mean satyrs and such in shoals 20:57:02 yeah it can't track the source of the sleep 20:57:20 however that's something someone could add to sequell presumably 20:57:47 minmay: seems difficult to get that concept of santa in an ascii thing even if the eyes were the same size 20:58:28 !lg * countsheep lair / status~~sleep 20:58:33 70/4024 games for * (countsheep lair): N=70/4025 (1.74%) 20:58:53 Brannock: it's already giving you some info on how often players die to sheep 20:58:59 -!- matp has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:59:00 -!- dextar has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:59:17 even this is not correct since you can get to low HP from the effect and not die, only to die turns later 20:59:27 yes 20:59:37 !lg * countsheep lair / status~~sleep cikiller=dream_sheep 20:59:39 er 20:59:41 20/4025 games for * (countsheep lair): N=20/4025 (0.50%) 20:59:51 !lg * countsheep lair / (( status~~sleep || cikiller=dream_sheep )) 20:59:55 76/4025 games for * (countsheep lair): N=76/4025 (1.89%) 21:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:00:04 not bad 21:00:13 but that would be the basis of a kind of !sheepkills command 21:00:19 for lair only 21:00:57 I think for shoals, you could just look for sleep in general and maybe exclude aizul, since.... 21:01:00 hrm 21:01:03 @??faun 21:01:03 faun (03c) | Spd: 10 | HD: 10 | HP: 41-58 | AC/EV: 2/10 | Dam: 23 | 10items, 10doors, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(40) | XP: 536 | Sp: corona, confuse / corona, slow | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 21:01:04 what if they lured aizul to lair or got an En ghost 21:01:09 outlier 21:01:12 ah 21:01:15 we need to remove ghosts asap before they corrupt the statistics further 21:01:17 the en ghost is a good point actually 21:01:22 ghosts can get EH? 21:01:26 yes 21:01:32 most en ghosts, when they do kill player characters, tend to do it very early on 21:01:32 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:01:34 !lg * killer=bat place=sewer dam=2 21:01:35 No games for * (killer=bat place=sewer dam=2). 21:01:39 !lg * killer=megabat place=sewer dam=2 21:01:40 1. chalk the Poker (L5 MfCr), slain by a megabat in Sewer (sewer_big_baddie) on 2011-04-27 15:04:37, with 260 points after 2752 turns and 0:06:50. 21:01:42 -!- yesno has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:02:19 en ghosts do tend to be somewhat trivial, but a spriggan player ghost can kill players in lair 21:02:29 hrm, I say this but 21:02:50 it's hard to query by type of player ghost 21:02:51 !lg * countsheep status~~sleep -8 21:02:53 97/104. BlueFish the Ruffian (L4 TrMo), slain by arazyal's ghost on D:3 (evilmike_ruin_ashenzari) on 2017-01-30 05:05:39, with 131 points after 1960 turns and 0:05:18. 21:03:17 well I'm just putting two and two together, that they died while sleeping, and it was from a ghost, it's probably an enchanter ghost 21:03:24 I don't think you can directly query ghost combo? 21:04:14 the reasons to remove ghosts just keep piling up! 21:04:42 !lg * countsheep lair status~~sleep cikiller=player_ghost 21:04:45 2. obscenesensi the Severer (L11 MiFi of Okawaru), slain by huza's ghost on Lair:2 on 2016-12-31 07:19:05, with 13594 points after 10585 turns and 0:13:25. 21:04:53 !lg * countsheep lair status~~sleep cikiller=player_ghost -log 21:04:56 2. obscenesensi, XL11 MiFi, T:10585: http://webzook.net/soup/morgue/trunk/obscenesensi/morgue-obscenesensi-20161231-071905.txt 21:05:12 yeah, spen ghost 21:05:14 !lg * countsheep lair status~~sleep cikiller=player_ghost -log -2 21:05:17 1/2. krigyl, XL13 DECj, T:20953: http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/krigyl/morgue-krigyl-20161226-204826.txt 21:05:41 however that is not 21:05:58 !lg kurtz lair:4 kurtz nagl 21:05:59 No keyword 'kurtz' 21:06:07 oh my, is that an oneshot? 21:06:13 !lg kurtz lair:4 nagl 21:06:14 2. Kurtz the Fencer (L13 NaGl of Okawaru), slain by a death cob (kmap: minmay_lair_oklob_chamber) on Lair:4 on 2016-12-27 02:35:18, with 29102 points after 22777 turns and 0:43:26. 21:06:22 nicely done, minmay 21:06:31 !lg kurtz lair:4 nagl -log 21:06:32 2. Kurtz, XL13 NaGl, T:22777: http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/Kurtz/morgue-Kurtz-20161227-023518.txt 21:06:45 !tv krigyl decj lair:4 xl=13 21:06:46 1. krigyl, XL13 DECj, T:20953 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 21:06:52 !lg kurtz lair:4 nagl -log -2 21:06:53 1/2. Kurtz, XL13 NaGl, T:20412: http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/Kurtz/morgue-Kurtz-20161226-203806.txt 21:07:21 yeah that was sleep with melee ghost kill 21:07:39 potential problem with this ignition spell outside of zigs: haunt and summon butterflies 21:07:45 hence it was powerful dream sheep / player ghost synergy 21:07:49 oh man 21:07:51 solid death 21:08:00 -!- Enthusiasm has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 21:08:03 he saw one sheep, killed it, continued to fight the ghost even with knowing the herd was nearby 21:08:10 they're drawn by the noise, put him to sleep, the ghost squashes his skull 21:08:33 minmay, maybe make it only target permanents, not temporary monsters? 21:08:50 !lairendkills lairtemple2 21:08:52 Lair End kills (lairtemple2): 47x minmay_lair_end_frog_pond (13.70%), 47x cheibrodos_lair_end_hotspot (13.70%), 36x gammafunk_lair_ancient_temple (10.50%), 33x evilmike_catoblepas_cave (9.62%), 28x hangedman_lair_tendril_chambers (8.16%), 28x wormcave (8.16%), 27x grunt_lair_end_beastmaster (7.87%), 22x evil_forest (6.41%), 22x hangedman_lair_in_review (6.41%), 19x guppyfry_lair_end_dragon (5.54%)... 21:08:58 I'm slowly being restored to glory 21:08:59 wow, hotspot surging 21:09:19 yeah, this is post r-i changes (and my follow-up change to the change of ancient temple) 21:09:27 chei has a patch to adjust hotspot 21:09:39 but frog pond is the current champ pretty solidly now 21:10:11 assuming those hotspot changes nerf the vault some 21:10:24 frogpond's a really solid vault 21:10:35 I know that minmay heartilly agrees 21:10:42 clear theme, good monster variety, makes you think about how to approach it 21:10:43 good rewards 21:10:44 that's now how you spell that 21:10:56 people do like the loot of that vault, yeah 21:11:19 I knew that double-l was wrong, but I wrote heartilly anyways, not my fault 21:13:27 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Client Quit] 21:14:08 Rinoa Heartilly 21:15:33 !lg * countsheep lair / cikiller=catoblepas 21:15:36 80/4027 games for * (countsheep lair): N=80/4027 (1.99%) 21:15:48 pretty good 21:23:08 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:28:30 -!- Enthusiasm has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:37:00 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:43:01 -!- Boatshow_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:50:48 -!- Cryp71c has joined ##crawl-dev 21:58:11 -!- Ultraviolent4 has joined ##crawl-dev 21:58:46 -!- Boatshow has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:05:01 -!- yesno has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:13:20 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 22:13:28 Brannock: hm, I like being able to use it to explode enemy summoners though 22:14:12 oh that sounds fun 22:14:12 and checking whether monsters are summoned or not isn't fun in general 22:14:21 in tiles it's easier...... 22:14:22 otoh inner flame already has this problem 22:14:52 if a player wants to invest in three spell schools to make ignition better then I think it's okay 22:14:56 interactions are fun 22:15:17 probably I'll just go back to having it only target hostile monsters 22:15:35 that way you can't use butterflies, and haunt is expensive enough to not be that bad 22:15:51 ...wait, you can sac love and use butterflies, fuck 22:16:16 yeah, guess it has to not work on summons at all :( 22:16:47 someone going ru + butterfly + ignition combo is vanishingly rare that I think it's okay to allow that lol 22:16:59 you can't even cast butterflies under sac love 22:18:45 can't you use some other mechanism to anger the butterflies 22:19:11 butterfly (00b) | Spd: 25 | HD: 1 | HP: 1-2 | AC/EV: 0/25 | fly | Res: 06magic(10) | Vul: 09poison | XP: 0 | Sz: tiny | Int: brainless. 22:19:11 %??butterfly 22:19:23 mephitic cloud i guess 22:19:29 i don't think that does damage? 22:20:57 ok actually it both does damage and does not anger them 22:25:49 -!- PoopBridge has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:27:46 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:28:47 -!- bgiannan_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:31:10 -!- epsik has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:33:25 -!- bgiannan_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:38:45 -!- nocturnal_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:42:14 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 22:43:51 -!- Lasty has quit [Client Quit] 22:53:47 -!- simmarine_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:53:47 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:53:57 -!- matp has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:57:26 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:58:17 -!- adelrune has joined ##crawl-dev 22:59:57 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:01:04 03Floodkiller02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/426 * 0.20-a0-552-gc4e775b: Modify Cyno skill cost table. 10(7 minutes ago, 2 files, 12+ 12-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c4e775b4bbe1 23:04:28 -!- dondy has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:17:41 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:19:21 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:35:11 -!- feksclaus has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.7] 23:42:12 -!- filthy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:49:35 -!- geekosaur has quit [Excess Flood] 23:52:20 -!- geekosaur has joined ##crawl-dev