00:00:03 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.20-a0-493-g19c8d8d (34) 00:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:02:56 03alexjurkiewicz02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/396 * 0.20-a0-494-gfb8558e: Change slow regeneration to a two level mutation 10(24 hours ago, 9 files, 51+ 44-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/fb8558ef656c 00:02:59 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:05:11 -!- laj1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:05:55 -!- Menche has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:06:20 -!- dondy has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:06:29 i think that PR is ready to go now 00:06:42 bit scared since it's my first PR that affects save/load 00:07:16 -!- laj1 has joined ##crawl-dev 00:11:50 -!- guillaume__ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:12:21 i'm scared too 00:14:04 when have i ever led you astray 00:14:06 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:16:05 that time you told him to jump in the volcano and that the burst of air coming out would take him to safety 00:16:49 the time you told him to charge the bull, since that will show dominance and make it run away 00:17:33 and that entire time you both were stuck in the pudding factory 00:19:06 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 00:24:28 getting stuck in a pudding factory is the punishment for getting stuck in the pudding factory 00:25:03 good ref 00:26:00 t-shirt idea: I git that reference 00:33:55 -!- lunkers has joined ##crawl-dev 00:35:18 -!- GraemeLion has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:41:38 -!- vale_ has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 00:43:33 -!- mong has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:44:33 -!- xnavy__ is now known as xnavy 00:47:33 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 00:50:15 -!- Twinge has joined ##crawl-dev 00:52:06 -!- Pleasingfungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.93 [Firefox 50.1.0/20161208153507]] 00:56:02 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: magistern] 01:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:03:59 -!- Harudoku has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:06:11 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 01:07:36 -!- HellTiger_NB has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:16:45 -!- cait is now known as yesno 01:19:12 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.20-a0-493-g19c8d8d (34) 01:33:58 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 01:35:02 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 01:36:06 -!- hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:38:27 -!- geekosaur has quit [Excess Flood] 01:39:35 -!- geekosaur has joined ##crawl-dev 01:40:57 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:47:35 -!- asdu has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:51:44 -!- timvisher has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:56:15 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.20-a0-493-g19c8d8d 02:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:09:26 -!- diazepan has quit [Quit: diazepan] 02:10:35 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:11:30 -!- lunkers has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:12:37 -!- aditya has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:14:07 -!- ololoev has quit [Client Quit] 02:20:29 -!- bgiannan has joined ##crawl-dev 02:22:24 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 02:23:52 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 02:24:08 -!- Lasty has quit [Client Quit] 02:25:44 -!- bgiannan has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:26:18 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:35:45 -!- ololoev has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:38:08 -!- timvisher has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:38:49 -!- bgiannan has joined ##crawl-dev 02:40:36 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:48:39 -!- purge has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:52:44 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.20-a0-493-g19c8d8d 02:56:04 -!- Dixie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:03:08 -!- SteelNeuron has joined ##crawl-dev 03:03:16 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:03:39 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 03:03:42 !messages 03:03:43 No messages for SteelNeuron. 03:12:42 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.20-a0-493-g19c8d8d (34) 03:12:59 -!- bgiannan has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:15:02 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:15:06 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:16:14 -!- Furril has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 03:16:58 -!- timvisher has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:22:51 -!- voker57 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:24:38 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 03:38:42 -!- coledot has quit [Quit: coledot] 03:42:42 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:50:25 -!- timvisher has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:50:44 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:59:26 -!- omnia has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 04:00:09 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:00:34 -!- removeelyvilon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:04:44 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 04:06:55 -!- Lasty has quit [Client Quit] 04:14:10 -!- Ratatosk has joined ##crawl-dev 04:23:29 -!- timvisher has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:29:45 -!- Ge0ff has quit [Client Quit] 04:32:27 -!- Ratatosk has left ##crawl-dev 04:35:39 -!- Dark-Jedi has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:49:01 -!- timvisher has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:04:47 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:15:59 -!- timvisher has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:20:44 -!- Idolo has quit [] 05:36:26 -!- bel has joined ##crawl-dev 05:36:59 -!- bel has quit [Client Quit] 05:41:05 -!- matp has quit [Quit: ZZzzzZz...] 05:42:07 -!- laj1 is now known as bel 05:46:43 Anyone know what code I should be looking at for handling portal vaults? I want to pregenerate the level which spawns Ice Cave (say), but not actually start the timer before I visit the level. 06:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:05:40 -!- bel has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:07:49 -!- bel has joined ##crawl-dev 06:12:58 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:28:15 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 06:29:12 -!- bonghitz has quit [Client Quit] 06:30:28 -!- doy has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 06:32:02 -!- doy has joined ##crawl-dev 06:36:15 -!- bel has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 06:36:39 -!- laj1 has joined ##crawl-dev 06:38:58 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 06:57:27 -!- timvisher has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:06:01 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 07:10:08 -!- Lasty has quit [Client Quit] 07:19:50 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 07:22:25 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 07:24:08 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:29:22 -!- timvisher has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:34:22 IIRC there was a playable Imp with teleportitis and shoutitis some time ago 07:34:31 any idea what happened to it? Seemed interesting 07:50:24 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 07:52:43 Interesting idea by ion_frigate: every random mutation source has a 50% chance of increasing the level of an existing (level 1 or 2) mutation (if any) or else acts as now. 07:53:28 Sounds good but a bit spoilery 07:54:08 I'd be all for it, if it could be conveyed in the interface (potions of mut mentioning that they tend to exacerbate your current mutation) 08:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:03:19 -!- timvisher has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:03:33 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:16:43 -!- Telnaior has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:21:49 SteelNeuron: we can explain the effect in the item description, that's not a problem 08:25:50 !tell bel in a general sense i assume you'd need to separate the handling for creating a level vs the player visiting it for the first time (see just_created_level in files.cc) 08:25:51 MarvinPA: OK, I'll let bel know. 08:26:47 -!- timvisher has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:27:31 !tell bel for portal vaults specifically, i think look at dat/dlua/lm_timed.lua, and the way they're activated with the entered_level dgnevent (would presumably need a new type of lua dgnevent there) 08:27:32 MarvinPA: OK, I'll let bel know. 08:29:40 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: magistern] 08:35:55 dpeg: unless there aren't any implications I can't think of, I like it 08:36:26 SteelNeuron: yes, I'll try to keep it in mind 08:36:49 I like shallow and deep random mechanics. Not sure if my characterization makes any sense 08:37:15 -!- ontoclasm1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:37:18 I like when there are many possible branches of something but you only see one, in one playthrough 08:37:39 and that mutation change would roughly go in that direction 08:44:53 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 08:46:10 -!- wheals_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:50:05 -!- snapek has quit [Quit: brb] 08:51:16 -!- laj1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:53:18 -!- laj1 has joined ##crawl-dev 08:53:20 -!- timvisher has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:55:33 -!- bgiannan has joined ##crawl-dev 09:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:04:38 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 09:05:35 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 09:09:30 -!- Lasty has quit [Client Quit] 09:10:00 -!- yeeve has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:21:59 -!- SteelNeuron has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:24:46 -!- M-bbigras has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:29:48 -!- timvisher has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:34:20 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: magistern] 09:36:58 -!- nixor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:37:05 -!- sooheon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:50:45 -!- Shard1697_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:51:55 -!- bgiannan1 has joined ##crawl-dev 09:52:36 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:53:55 -!- bgiannan has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:56:10 -!- bgiannan1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:58:23 -!- timvisher has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:11:31 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: magistern] 10:18:29 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 10:18:48 -!- magistern has quit [Client Quit] 10:28:34 -!- Dark-Jedi has quit [Quit: If it breaks, you get to keep both backports.] 10:30:43 -!- timvisher has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:33:23 -!- SteelNeuron has joined ##crawl-dev 10:38:57 -!- wheals_ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:41:33 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:52:20 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 10:55:11 -!- timvisher has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:01:25 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:04:36 -!- AngelaSmythe has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:11:42 -!- Cryp71c has joined ##crawl-dev 11:25:12 -!- timvisher has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:26:31 -!- Elsi has joined ##crawl-dev 11:26:57 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 11:29:36 -!- Lasty has quit [Client Quit] 11:37:15 -!- Taraiph has quit [Quit: To Be Continued...] 11:43:10 -!- SteelNeuron has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:48:31 -!- SteelNeuron has joined ##crawl-dev 11:51:14 -!- timvisher has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:05:35 -!- laj1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:05:40 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.20-a0-493-g19c8d8d (34) 12:07:58 -!- laj1 has joined ##crawl-dev 12:09:03 -!- Ratatosk has quit [Quit: Ratatosk] 12:16:22 -!- timvisher has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:18:57 -!- laj1 has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 12:24:36 "Throwing is the skill for all things hurled without a launcher: tomahawks, javelins, tomahawks, nets, etc." 12:24:47 the manual is v. good 12:25:10 someone sedded a removal, I see 12:26:19 tomahawks are twice as important 12:27:13 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:29:11 -!- Shard1697_ is now known as Shard1697 12:29:27 -!- GraemeLion has joined ##crawl-dev 12:32:51 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.20-a0-494-gf50ee04: Update some skill descs in the manual 10(87 seconds ago, 1 file, 6+ 8-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f50ee04efdd4 12:41:30 -!- stickyfingers has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:41:36 -!- lukano is now known as snapek 12:41:51 -!- timvisher has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:48:51 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 12:49:47 -!- nikheizen has quit [Quit: leaving] 12:53:43 -!- bgiannan1 has joined ##crawl-dev 12:55:31 -!- adibis has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:56:24 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 12:57:42 -!- adelrune has joined ##crawl-dev 12:58:11 -!- bgiannan1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:58:55 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:02:48 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:04:57 -!- timvisher has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:07:48 xnavy (L20 FoFi) ASSERT(!you.turn_is_over) in 'state.cc' at line 186 failed. (Shoals:4) 13:08:42 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 13:09:30 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.20-a0-494-gf50ee04 (34) 13:16:47 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:17:08 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 13:17:24 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:18:36 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 13:21:28 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 13:21:28 The build has errored. (master - f50ee04 #7576 : Chris Campbell): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/192431090 13:21:28 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 13:25:08 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 13:26:20 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:34:52 -!- timvisher has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:36:28 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:50:43 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:06:32 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 14:06:50 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 14:08:55 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 14:10:54 -!- lobf has quit [Client Quit] 14:11:20 -!- sooheon has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:14:38 MarvinPA, blowguns removal when? 14:14:55 (to be followed up with s/needle/dart/ ) 14:21:56 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 14:24:46 -!- Stonar has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:25:28 -!- lobf has quit [Client Quit] 14:42:06 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:48:48 -!- 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[Changing host] 17:11:19 -!- timvisher has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:16:59 the interface really has improved considerably 17:17:12 it's just something you don't notice as much if you play a lot 17:17:20 because it's mostly been incremental improvement 17:30:38 -!- begemot has quit [Client Quit] 17:31:08 -!- adelrune has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:31:11 you can !tv old games though 17:31:53 (or remember them, if you're me at least. current interface much nicer than the 4.1beta I started with!) 17:31:57 er, alpha 17:35:47 -!- adelrune has joined ##crawl-dev 17:36:05 -!- deepdwarfbro has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:37:17 -!- timvisher has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:38:02 -!- Krakhan has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:38:23 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 17:39:02 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:41:19 -!- adelrune has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 17:43:31 sure, but it's not something i particularly notice unless i watch an old game or whatever 17:44:01 i'm also shocked by how much better the tiles look when i fire up an older version 17:46:01 -!- adibis has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:51:32 yeah. some of the tiles I didn't love at first are now clearly better 17:51:42 maybe it's mostly power of familiarity 17:53:04 -!- Kranix has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 17:55:41 -!- scummos| has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 17:59:02 -!- scummos| has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:00:36 -!- timvisher has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:03:30 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.20-a0-494-gf50ee04 (34) 18:06:27 that's some of it i'm sure 18:06:41 a lot of them just look objectively better, even if i didn't like them at first though 18:06:43 like ugly things 18:06:57 i always had a soft spot for the old roly-poly tiles 18:07:04 that looked like a cthulhu stuffed animal 18:07:18 but the newer ones are just legitimately better 18:10:12 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 18:12:19 -!- wheals_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:26:02 oh I haven't tried tiles, I was talking about console 18:28:36 -!- timvisher has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:29:57 -!- Ququman has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:37:02 well, the interface improvements affected both 18:37:16 i was just mentioning that the tiles have gotten way better over the same time period 18:42:41 -!- HellTiger_NB has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:43:56 -!- Jarlyk2 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:44:00 casmith789_: many thanks =) If you have ideas for further improvements, always tell us! 18:45:01 alexjurkiewicz: scoreboard is giving me an SSL warning in chrome 18:45:37 -!- Dixie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:45:37 You cannot visit scoreboard.crawl.develz.org right now because the website uses HSTS. Network errors and attacks are usually temporary, so this page will probably work later. 18:45:43 scoreboard.crawl.develz.org normally uses encryption to protect your information. When Google Chrome tried to connect to scoreboard.crawl.develz.org this time, the website sent back unusual and incorrect credentials. This may happen when an attacker is trying to pretend to be scoreboard.crawl.develz.org, or a Wi-Fi sign-in screen has interrupted the connection. Your information is still secure 18:45:49 because Google Chrome stopped the connection before any data was exchanged. 18:46:29 -!- Pacra_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:46:36 -!- scummos__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:47:45 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 18:50:52 yeah something's wrong with it I can see 18:51:17 the certificate has expired 18:51:23 -!- removeelyvilon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:53:49 -!- AreBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 18:54:27 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 18:56:53 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 18:57:25 -!- Barfbag has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:58:29 -!- Smello has quit [Quit: Bye!] 18:59:28 -!- lion_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:02:38 -!- Menche has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:05:56 -!- dondy has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.5] 19:13:59 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:15:31 i defeated lets encrypt in single combat and claim my site back from the jaws of "victim of overly enthusiastic security for amateur website" 19:24:42 ^ probably a hacked irc account 19:25:18 lowercase I 19:25:19 probably 19:29:59 man, don't tell me you think I'm someone who capitalises the start of every irc chat line and puts a full stop at the end 19:30:12 i bet you think i sign my forum posts 19:32:35 but you do capitalise your Is 19:32:37 yeah. some of the tiles I didn't love at first are now clearly better 19:32:41 or was that an imposter 19:33:13 <|amethyst> when it begins a sentence, the capitalisation toggles back off 19:33:52 such complicated rules 19:39:35 -!- diazepan has quit [Quit: diazepan] 19:40:06 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 19:42:00 yes, I use capitalisation in a sentence, since that's good grammer 19:42:12 but capitalising the start of a line is just inflating the importance of my messages 19:44:37 -!- asdu has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:54:18 -!- nono_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:55:25 -!- timvisher has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:57:26 -!- nixor has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:58:14 -!- Pleasingfungus has joined ##crawl-dev 20:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:10:25 -!- Fixer has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 20:13:44 Pleasingfungus: Tell pleasing to step up w trunk changes btw 20:13:51 ??? 20:13:52 Half the entries 20:13:52 Are retarded as all shit 20:13:53 And dont tell me anything 20:13:56 --Demise 20:14:03 good. 20:14:08 lol, where did he send you that 20:14:15 on his smurf discord 20:16:08 i do wonder if i should try to include justifications for changes in the trunk posts 20:16:12 -!- adelrune has joined ##crawl-dev 20:16:22 so that the complaints are slightly less repetitive and more diverse 20:16:53 Pleasingfungus: yeah, demise was going on about how disint is redundant now, but didn't know about specific wand range changes 20:16:57 and that's your fault!!!!!!! 20:17:11 111111 20:17:13 !!! 20:17:24 i considered writing up more details, but then i fell asleep 20:17:32 patches welcome. 20:17:38 if confuse and para still have full range he has a point 20:17:45 but disint is low-tier so shrug 20:18:15 His mid and late game strategy is based on disint 20:18:16 i do kind of like how now disint is basically there to explode grinder =p 20:18:24 @??sonja 20:18:24 Sonja (05K) | Spd: 14 | HD: 6 | HP: 26-35 | AC/EV: 2/24 | Dam: 9, 5, 5 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(10) | Chunks: 14noxious | XP: 808 | Sp: blink, teleport self [04emergency] | Sz: small | Int: human. 20:18:30 imo ^ 20:18:31 oh yeah, and her 20:18:36 -!- Kalir has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:19:51 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 20:25:30 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 20:26:11 I thought confuse/para was there to explode the low MR uniques, so then you can go up and newstab them 20:27:22 disint was already redundant; i'm not sure it makes sense to say it's more redundant now 20:27:41 why would you explode a ballerina 20:29:39 disint had niche use for removing walls 20:30:01 which it lost 20:35:40 -!- hellmonk has joined ##crawl-dev 20:39:06 -!- Pleasingfungus has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:39:31 -!- timvisher has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:41:09 -!- laj1 has joined ##crawl-dev 20:41:54 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 20:43:09 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 20:46:32 -!- Pleasingfungus has joined ##crawl-dev 20:57:00 Lasty: disint was better for killholes than /digging imo 20:57:10 yeah, totally 20:57:14 which is why it had to go 21:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:01:13 what's next, you monsters?! 21:02:00 yeah 21:02:09 I have no idea how you killhole with digging 21:02:13 *alone 21:02:44 you just deal with the possibility of someone being behind you 21:02:53 or summon something to stand there 21:03:20 no one consulted me for these changes! they've ruined my gammafunk.rc menu and glyph wand colors! 21:03:28 now I have to go back to square one... 21:06:40 -!- Tickenest has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:08:55 hm 21:09:03 gammafunk: do you know if the guy commenting in the wordpress comments with github links is from tavern? 21:09:06 it seems like a response to that one thread 21:09:17 Pleasingfungus: he's from the discord, actually 21:09:22 oh, really! 21:09:26 er, demise's 21:09:40 we were chatting and demise was variously demanding that you do more work with those updates 21:09:47 I was explaining that this is not reasonable of him 21:09:56 haha 21:10:09 but then it progressed into some kind of reasonable discussion, and said person (who was more reasonable than demise), did that 21:10:12 so I approved it 21:11:13 nice 21:11:35 i go through the git log when making these anyway, so maybe i'll dump relevant links into a big pile at the end 21:11:44 yeah 21:11:48 not much work, certainly much less work than properly formatting them 21:11:55 even that might help 21:12:06 right, as I expling to demise.dotcom 21:12:12 actually formatting commit links takes time 21:12:15 *explained 21:12:40 oh but "Implying PleasingFungus didn't read them already lul", gammafunk! 21:12:48 idgi 21:12:53 you read them already, so that's like having a formatted link! 21:13:03 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:13:10 i think you've been ingesting too many memes. 21:13:17 this is all way over my head... 21:13:36 people assuming that doing things takes 0 time 21:13:41 I'm also kinda here >.> 21:13:43 chequers (?) helped me write up some earlier posts, though in that case he did the aggregation and i did the formatting and editing... i guess in principle someone could do the opposite 21:14:05 -!- timvisher has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:14:05 GraemeLion: hello! thanks for writing up the links! 21:14:08 or posting em up, whatever 21:14:30 No problem :D I mean after that "phasing out races" tavern thing, I figured I'd do something helpful >.> 21:14:48 yeah, as I explained someone could go through those posts and give links + some extra details (like "these specific wands have these ranges now") 21:14:55 i skimmed that thread and it was pretty funny 21:15:03 but i guess maybe less fun to try to post in seriously 21:15:32 Shard1697 was making some good points in there about it being a bit tricky to go from front page to dev reasoning... direct commit links help there, to some extent 21:16:13 probably the best thing we have is front page -> trunk update posts 21:16:24 yeah, but those don't currently offer any reasoning 21:16:29 those are listed on front page; presumably anyone interested in trunk already gets these posts 21:16:31 so maybe i should change that 21:16:51 yeah, I mean as always that'd be great, and I could help edit in some details 21:17:09 just not sure how to do that in the wordpress format 21:17:31 -!- nikheizen has joined ##crawl-dev 21:17:38 wrt people going through trunk posts, it all depends what people (people probably = GraemeLion ) feel up to. if they (he) wanted to, he could do that, or could just submit his own trunk changes post every couple of weeks (and i or someone else would go through and edit it and do the important work of adding dumb jokes) 21:18:07 or i could just keep doin it. no skin off my bones 21:18:09 I could potentially look into that. 21:18:28 yeah, the wordpress is just all in html 21:18:55