00:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:01:36 mace of the thing 00:01:48 good for when you are trapped in antarctica 00:03:02 -!- nino_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:12:06 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:13:26 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.20-a0-303-g575bbf7 (34) 00:16:18 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:19:30 -!- twelwe has joined ##crawl-dev 00:23:47 aw, earth elementals don't have a bodybuilder pose anymore? 00:24:04 nope 00:24:08 all the elementals became sneks 00:24:14 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Changing host] 00:27:05 if i butcher a pile of corpses and somehow say no to the first or any number of them, and choose (a)ll, the first skipped corpses do not get butchered. is this intentional? 00:27:08 -!- aditya has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:27:46 sounds like it 00:28:29 could it say (a)ll for the first and rem(a)ining for the rest? 00:28:34 probably 00:31:04 this code is really something, though 00:31:09 i don't trust myself to change it properly 00:34:43 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 00:43:14 -!- Pleasingfungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.93 [Firefox 50.0.2/20161129173726]] 00:45:02 -!- kdrnic has joined ##crawl-dev 00:45:59 -!- destroythecore has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:52:14 oh dang 00:52:26 !tell pleasingfungus http://www.bemurkled.ca/visual_art/ some more fanart... 00:52:26 CanOfWorms: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 00:55:42 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: Reality is an illusion, the universe is a hologram, buy gold, BYE] 00:55:49 -!- hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:57:50 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:57:56 -!- Harudoku has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:59:46 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Changing host] 01:00:06 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:04:04 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:04:58 -!- Elsi has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:06:34 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:07:00 -!- Patashu has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:07:14 -!- Elsi has joined ##crawl-dev 01:08:43 is that pic safe for kids? 01:08:57 this is a question for canofworms 01:10:37 it;s safe for everyone 01:14:58 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 01:18:16 -!- tsujin has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:20:27 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.20-a0-303-g575bbf7 (34) 01:27:38 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 01:29:42 -!- bel1 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:40:45 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Changing host] 01:40:53 -!- mong has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:45:26 -!- saty has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:52:33 -!- chan20 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:53:27 -!- bel1_ has quit [Client Quit] 01:55:16 -!- bel1_ has quit [Client Quit] 01:56:48 -!- bel1_ has quit [Client Quit] 01:57:52 -!- WalrusKing has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:58:21 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.20-a0-303-g575bbf7 02:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:04:38 -!- valrus has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:17:33 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:19:41 -!- bgiannan1 has joined ##crawl-dev 02:32:05 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 02:37:20 -!- slothparty has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:37:22 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 02:39:55 -!- SteelNeuron has joined ##crawl-dev 02:39:59 !messages 02:39:59 No messages for SteelNeuron. 02:41:45 -!- bgiannan1 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:51:00 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:53:22 OOD monster spawn went crazy 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10850 by papilio 02:54:39 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.20-a0-303-g575bbf7 03:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:15:39 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:20:16 -!- neunon has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 03:22:10 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:23:33 -!- neunon has joined ##crawl-dev 03:25:48 Experimental (councilgod-PR) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.20-a0-446-gdbb5916 03:27:34 -!- kdrnic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:35:49 !messages 03:35:50 No messages for TZer0. 03:41:33 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.20-a0-303-g575bbf7 (34) 03:52:07 -!- _Jordan_ has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 04:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:08:44 -!- aditya has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:12:33 uhhh 04:12:50 anyone with commit acces on? I broke the tile order for councilgod-PR by adding an unrand in the wrong place 04:13:05 can someone ??rebuild councilgod-PR pretty please? So no more saves get morphed into absurdity :) 04:15:42 03PabloMansanet02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/413 * 0.20-a0-447-g472b079: Fix tile order 10(in the future, 3 files, 23+ 23-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/472b0794a6ea 04:15:45 -!- twelwe has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:17:14 ??rebuild 04:17:14 rebuild[1/2]: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rebuild/ http://underhound.eu:81/rebuild/ http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/rebuild/ http://crawl.xtahua.com/rebuild/ https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/rebuild/ Bug |amethyst or Nap.Kin for CDO. Use your powers wisely. 04:17:41 -!- Zxpr1jk has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:18:22 cheers! 04:19:42 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:26:07 -!- darkschneider has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:26:34 -!- darkschneider has joined ##crawl-dev 04:31:28 -!- Telnaior has quit [Quit: Quit: Quit: Quit:] 04:33:16 Experimental (councilgod-PR) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.20-a0-447-g472b079 04:55:18 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:59:27 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:00:38 -!- chan20_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:15:22 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 05:19:12 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:24:45 -!- Thorbinator has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:28:37 -!- Cerpin has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:31:10 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 05:34:18 -!- saty has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:55:21 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:00:28 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:31:46 -!- MIC132 has joined ##crawl-dev 06:31:46 -!- MIC132 has quit [Client Quit] 06:32:46 -!- MIC132 has joined ##crawl-dev 06:50:09 03PabloMansanet02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/413 * 0.20-a0-448-g5ba7eaa: Add Sifu names 10(in the future, 5 files, 26+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5ba7eaaf7c31 06:53:00 -!- saty has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 06:54:10 -!- duralumin has quit [Client Quit] 06:58:21 what's a sifu 06:58:49 -!- Dracunos has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:59:47 -!- Dracunos has joined ##crawl-dev 07:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:01:51 -!- Cerpin has joined ##crawl-dev 07:10:09 escu: martial arts masters :) 07:10:25 Since the council god is, well, a council, thought it'd be flavourful to have different masters talk to you instead of "The Council says" 07:10:47 it comes with some hilarious situations too 07:11:19 Like "Sifu Cen Wei doesn't appreciate desertion!" "Sifu Sun Luban booms, "You treacherous mortal!"" 07:11:52 -!- saty has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:11:54 and they accept your kills in turn 07:15:42 ohh 07:16:25 -!- SteelNeuron has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:22:41 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:29:23 -!- bel1 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:35:33 -!- WangHW has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 07:44:10 -!- chan20 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:47:12 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:52:00 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:52:11 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Changing host] 07:53:59 -!- wheals__ has joined ##crawl-dev 08:00:00 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:07:43 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:16:21 -!- bgiannan1 has joined ##crawl-dev 08:23:09 -!- TuxQmoob has quit [Changing host] 08:23:09 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:25:27 -!- Ratatosk has quit [Quit: Ratatosk] 08:27:29 -!- MIC132 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:28:18 -!- SteelNeuron has joined ##crawl-dev 08:28:26 -!- saty has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 08:31:27 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:35:41 -!- WalrusKing has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 08:40:03 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 08:44:04 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 08:49:48 -!- bgiannan_ has joined ##crawl-dev 08:49:52 -!- bgiannan1 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 09:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:02:45 -!- M-bbigras has quit [Write error: Connection reset by peer] 09:13:18 is there a reason why "yesno()" would function differently in webtiles? 09:13:31 I do always get a prompt offline, but not in webtiles on the same situation 09:24:35 03PabloMansanet02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/413 * 0.20-a0-449-gcc82f17: Reduce flying weap number 10(in the future, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/cc82f1763cca 09:29:05 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:34:13 -!- bgiannan_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:39:01 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 10:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:00:37 03PabloMansanet02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/413 * 0.20-a0-450-g4cf9236: Shuffled ability piety levels for a more natural progression 10(in the future, 3 files, 7+ 7-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4cf923684f43 10:01:12 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 10:01:38 -!- Ge0ff has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:07:08 -!- Elsi has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:08:23 -!- M-bbigras has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:10:08 -!- Elsi has joined ##crawl-dev 10:15:16 !source yesno 10:15:17 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/prompt.cc#L50 10:20:46 -!- adelrune has joined ##crawl-dev 10:23:11 -!- ddubois has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:25:27 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:27:02 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 10:29:57 -!- WangHW has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 10:37:11 -!- Harudoku has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 10:45:34 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:46:26 -!- Kranix has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 10:49:39 -!- knu has quit [Quit: Reboot...] 10:51:40 -!- SteelNeuron has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:56:53 -!- LexAckson__ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:03:14 -!- valrus has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:04:31 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 11:16:42 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 11:26:48 -!- yuastnav has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:36:12 -!- Pleasingfungus has joined ##crawl-dev 11:39:00 suggestion from the roguelikes discord: it might be nice if we were more proactive about teleport closets, either by detecting them at level-gen or when teleporting (running pathing checks to stairs/portals) 11:39:00 Pleasingfungus: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 11:39:12 just droppin this here when no one's around, so it can be safely forgotten 11:43:50 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 11:46:14 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 11:46:46 -!- jefus- has joined ##crawl-dev 11:49:53 -!- kdrnic has joined ##crawl-dev 11:50:08 -!- kdrnic has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:50:27 -!- jeefus has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 11:51:09 -!- Pleasingfungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.93 [Firefox 50.0.2/20161129173726]] 12:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:01:41 -!- Kranix has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:01:57 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 12:11:52 -!- Grammus has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:13:21 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:14:09 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.20-a0-303-g575bbf7 (34) 12:15:53 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 12:18:06 -!- Menche has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:19:41 -!- _Jordan_ has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 12:28:36 -!- duralumin has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:28:39 ??giant club 12:28:39 giant club[1/2]: (maces & flails; -6 acc / 20 dam / 1.6 base delay / 0.7 min delay; two handed). A giant lump of wood. The only playable races that can wield giant clubs are Ogres and Trolls. 12:41:29 -!- anthems has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:43:20 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:44:50 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 12:45:08 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 13:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:05:58 -!- stickyfingers has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:15:19 -!- ByronJoh1son has joined ##crawl-dev 13:19:08 -!- ByronJohnson has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:20:18 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 13:21:43 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:23:06 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:23:44 -!- saty has quit [Quit: = ""] 13:28:13 -!- bel1 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:30:27 -!- cait has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:32:27 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:42:43 hourai (L10 FeBe) (D:9) 13:45:40 -!- adelrune has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:46:22 -!- adelrune has joined ##crawl-dev 14:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:08:35 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 14:18:17 -!- Cimanyd has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:19:20 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 14:32:17 -!- hyperbolic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:39:37 -!- Kite has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.5] 14:54:15 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 14:55:29 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:56:53 -!- oseph has quit [Quit: okbyebye] 15:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:00:20 -!- bgiannan_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:08:32 -!- Harudoku has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:13:54 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 15:19:47 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 15:20:33 gammafunk: you are very good at feeding the flames <3 15:21:20 dpeg: well the key is to not insult people directly, just respond to the idea (I like to quote bits of text without the original author's name mentioned) 15:21:54 and try to not derail a legitimate thread, of course, but cyc is never really that 15:22:43 gammafunk: and you know, of course, that this is what they *really* want :) 15:23:20 yes 15:23:42 I mean, let's face it, it's hard to resist the temptation to shitpost 15:23:42 so we can say that reddit is more concerned with HE whereas tavern is all about the Og GSC 15:23:58 gammafunk: absolutely, it brings out the best in everyone of us! 15:24:00 I actually didn't see a mega HE rant on reddit 15:24:25 there was one thread that was made about it, that must be what you mean 15:24:44 but yeah I think most of the tavern rancor was due to Og 15:24:46 there's some metacomplainery about "removes" 15:26:51 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 15:34:32 hey gammafunk do you have some time to help me out with some code? 15:34:40 I'm having trouble with vaults/entrances/Lua 15:35:27 -!- hyperbolic has joined ##crawl-dev 15:57:19 -!- bgiannan_ has quit [Read error: No route to host] 16:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:05:38 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:16:27 Brannock: what's up 16:19:20 http://pastebin.com/XH0bMZA3 I have a (messy) patch that's a first step towards implementing postgame roulette. I managed to get branch disabling going, but now both branches are disabled. I may be overlooking something. 16:19:26 sorry for the late reply, was shoveling snow 16:20:51 I think I did something wrong with vault tags, as I haven't been able to find anything else relevant in the C++ side of the code 16:21:07 <|amethyst> FR: the portal to hell/pan sits beneath the orb on Zot:5 16:22:45 |amethyst, CanOfWorms is being credited as x0_000 on s-z commit shortlog 16:22:59 %git :/speed 16:22:59 07CanOfWorms02 * 0.20-a0-302-geba3175: Don't leak speed brand when examining inventory 10(18 hours ago, 3 files, 9+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/eba3175d130d 16:23:09 hrm, maybe it doesn't use mailmap 16:23:32 !source .mailmap 16:23:32 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/contrib/sdl2-image/external/libwebp-0.3.0/.mailmap 16:23:38 wow, rip 16:24:41 brannock: yes, that's msys 16:24:58 <|amethyst> yeah, I suspect gitweb is just not using .mailmap 16:25:29 -!- CaptainFruitcake has joined ##crawl-dev 16:25:34 -!- wheals__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:26:03 <|amethyst> yeah, hence it using "Neil Moore" for my commits instead of |amethyst, etc 16:26:11 -!- darkschneider has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:26:23 I need to change the username I use when I commit with that... 16:26:25 -!- _Jordan_ has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 16:26:32 -!- darkschneider has joined ##crawl-dev 16:27:50 CanOfWorms: if the current settings for git aren't accurate in msys2, use got config --global user.name 16:27:54 s/got/git/ 16:28:02 and then git config --global user.email 16:28:16 gammafunk, I think Hell has some weird placement rules, but then why am I not getting any Pan entrances either? is the big thing I'm trying to figure out right now. also tag definition is needlessly obscure imho! 16:28:16 it will set and save those settings for all rpos 16:28:29 Brannock: yeah, I saw this function call you removed, was going to take a look 16:28:43 aha 16:28:44 !source _ensure_entry 16:28:44 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/tags.cc#L1060 16:28:53 the hell is worm a fruitcake now 16:29:02 got disconnected :v 16:29:05 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:29:08 I'm trying to get it so only one entrance shows up, instead of several sprinkled throughout Depths, and also pick only one of hell/pan 16:29:09 -!- CaptainFruitcake is now known as CanOfWorms 16:29:15 maybe multiple entrances into hell is cooler? 16:29:55 oh, is there a way to check if there's anyone playing a particular combo online 16:30:02 Brannock: I found the many portals always a bit confusing... 16:30:05 through sequell 16:30:08 -!- Kadarus has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:30:12 a single entrance each for hell/pan would be a good thing to change regardless of other stuff i think 16:30:19 Brannock: but I'm fine with the special portals, such as the Lair:$ one 16:30:19 and abyss 16:30:35 yeah, then we can use cooler entrances for them 16:30:49 MarvinPA: are you fine with additional entries from vaults? 16:30:57 also, thanks for reminding me that I need to disable the Hell-Lair entrance if Pan is chosen (and Pan-Orc if Hell) 16:31:06 yeah, i just mean depths placement specifically 16:31:55 perhaps this might lead to a minor Ctrl-O modification... but that should be the very last step 16:37:39 -!- DevlanMud has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:40:43 -!- Kramell has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:41:38 CanOfWorms: how do you mean a particular combo? 16:41:53 !lg gammafunk hesu 16:41:54 1135. gammafunk the Caller (L3 HESu), quit the game on D:4 on 2015-05-19 02:13:23, with 49 points after 728 turns and 0:05:21. 16:42:08 I think he meant currently playing 16:42:08 yeah 16:42:12 could use lm for that? 16:42:13 uh, yes 16:42:22 well not if you mean "playing right now" 16:42:26 I mean right now 16:42:29 yeah for that 16:42:32 chequers has a thing 16:42:51 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 16:43:26 ah, I saw that 16:43:27 cool 16:43:38 not sure if it's working now or not 16:43:44 but yeah something like that 16:44:08 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 16:44:21 oh I see, that function isn't what I needed 16:44:49 oh 16:44:51 there are two 16:44:53 er 16:45:30 oh ok, yeah 16:45:32 this makes sense 16:45:52 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 16:46:52 -!- Lasty has quit [Client Quit] 16:53:58 -!- hyperbolic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:54:10 -!- hyperbolic has joined ##crawl-dev 16:55:12 -!- Kalir is now known as GiantXom 16:56:11 -!- GiantXom is now known as Kalir 17:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:00:06 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 17:01:13 -!- JimmahDean has quit [] 17:01:14 -!- LexAckson__ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:06:30 -!- Pleasingfungus has joined ##crawl-dev 17:09:20 a thought: 17:09:49 we should post 'survey closing soon, get your votes in!' all over the place shortly before the next release 17:09:57 people love voting before it's too late 17:10:53 "answer this survey for a chance to reinstate high elves!" 17:11:23 gammafunk, what were you mulling over in that exchange there? 17:11:42 CanOfWorms: what, a 0% chance? 17:11:46 yes 17:11:51 http://r1gm.free.fr/Crawl/crawlSS_052_mutations.txt the 'demonic mutation' section in this is extremely good 17:12:00 we don't have to explicitly mention the odds!!! 17:12:04 :) 17:12:06 very crawlish 17:12:35 carefully manipulate your skill choices to optimize your ds muts 17:13:04 oh man, I remember these obscure skill build rules 17:13:08 they were terrible 17:13:37 way before my time 17:13:44 strong/weak - max level: 14 17:13:46 ice 17:13:48 *nice 17:13:51 Level 1: "You can channel magical energy from Hell." 17:13:53 dang 17:13:59 CanOfWorms: you could get em from potions! 17:14:17 however, it clearly should've maxed at 27 17:20:13 so many scales... 17:23:07 oh btw CanOfWorms, i couldn't find a reddit username to credit for https://www.reddit.com/r/dcss/comments/5ijepb/you_can_see_speed_brands_before_identifying_the/dbaaxjm/ - do you have one you'd like credited? 17:23:40 not at the moment, you can just link to the commit 17:23:55 yeah, i did 17:26:06 cool 17:28:29 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 17:40:36 -!- concrocotta has quit [Quit: Ciao] 17:46:04 -!- HuHu has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:53:18 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:55:09 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:56:26 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 17:57:59 -!- Kintak has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:58:05 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 18:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:07:53 -!- adelrune has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:09:53 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 18:10:01 -!- Kranix has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 18:10:02 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.20-a0-303-g575bbf7 (34) 18:21:17 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:27:21 -!- Pleasingfungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.93 [Firefox 50.0.2/20161129173726]] 18:31:16 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 19:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:02:26 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:06:52 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 19:15:48 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 19:18:32 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:22:47 stickyfingers (L20 OpEn) ASSERT((int)Buffer.size() == expanded_keys_left) in 'macro.cc' at line 544 failed. (D:14) 19:22:50 -!- adelrune has joined ##crawl-dev 19:31:20 !crashlog stickyfingers 19:31:21 19. stickyfingers, XL20 OpEn, T:53478 (milestone): http://crawl.xtahua.com/crawl/morgue/stickyfingers/crash-stickyfingers-20161217-002227.txt 19:32:07 -!- Cerpin has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:32:33 hmm, can't reproduce that 19:33:57 !locate stickyfingers 19:33:59 stickyfingers was last seen on CXC (stickyfingers, L20 OpEn of Fedhas). 19:34:00 -!- Cerpin has joined ##crawl-dev 19:34:16 -!- aditya has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:34:39 they're playing just fine. CXC though... let me try to reproduce this with some international chars 19:35:32 nope, still works fine 19:35:38 * Brannock shrugs 19:37:34 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 19:37:42 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 19:45:03 -!- snux has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:52:19 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:56:39 -!- _Jordan_ has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 20:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:01:49 -!- adelrune has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:16:46 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:19:29 -!- vev has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:41:23 -!- Danei_Prime is now known as Danei_IV_Epiphan 20:41:42 -!- Danei_IV_Epiphan is now known as DaneiIVEpiphanes 20:48:04 -!- gressup_ is now known as gressup 20:50:50 -!- doll has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 20:52:36 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 20:54:29 -!- Yermak has joined ##crawl-dev 20:56:17 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:58:29 -!- tsujin has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:59:50 -!- nikheizen has joined ##crawl-dev 21:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:06:47 -!- minmay has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:09:16 -!- minqmay has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 21:10:31 -!- concrocotta has quit [Quit: Ciao] 21:14:57 -!- DrKe has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:15:47 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 21:28:32 -!- yaknyasn is now known as test_nick_please 21:28:40 spl-goditem.cc and goditem.cc both existing is the worst 21:28:41 -!- test_nick_please is now known as yaknyasn 21:28:53 some day i will remember what is in which the first time i try 21:33:02 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:35:48 -!- minmay has joined ##crawl-dev 21:41:19 MarvinPA: just rename them to goditem1.cc and goditem2.cc 21:46:43 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:51:11 how difficult would it be to just merge the two? 21:51:25 I guess update all the includes and, what else? 21:53:51 well, they're for different things so shouldn't really be merged 21:55:12 goditem is for god conducts relating to items, spl-goditem is for "Pseudo spells triggered by gods and various items." 22:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:02:55 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 22:03:16 !tell canofworms https://api.crawl.project357.org/live/games?pretty=1 still in alpha, theoretically <5sec out of date 22:03:16 alexjurkiewicz: OK, I'll let canofworms know. 22:04:12 still soliciting Opinions on having spells from wands use the regular spell range incidentally 22:05:08 currently tending towards doing that and then bumping up the power boost from evo skill a bit more too 22:06:06 i think that plus handling zapping-while-confused is maybe the last thing to do for exciting wand->rod stuff to be maybe ready-ish 22:07:45 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:11:06 fr: wand->rod 22:11:45 oops yes, the other thing 22:15:35 anyway now that unidentified wands don't get zapped, using the spell range is fine 22:16:03 (assuming this includes removing random effects) 22:17:16 i have random effects all at los-range as currently reimplemented (or they could easily all be any other arbitrary range) 22:18:39 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:21:14 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 22:22:25 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 22:26:23 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 22:32:11 Wizmode: getting ring of protection from fire instead of just protection 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10851 by Yermak 22:38:01 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Quit: I like to rock] 22:44:03 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:45:05 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 22:46:28 -!- Lasty has quit [Client Quit] 22:47:10 I don't have a problem with wands using spell range 22:58:13 -!- Xenobreeder has joined ##crawl-dev 22:59:16 How do I reverse the recent colour scheme change, what's the option for it? It hurts my eyes. 23:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:00:55 ?/brightens 23:00:56 No matches. 23:01:14 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:01:14 &rc 23:01:23 http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/rcfiles/crawl-git/gammafunk.rc 23:02:03 bold_brightens_foreground=true 23:02:04 and 23:02:05 Thank! 23:02:12 Found and implemented already. 23:03:23 pray that someday someone comes up with *one* standard for color terminal behavior, so that the old defaults don't suck on OS X and the new ones don't blue you away 23:03:40 (oh, and I guess putty was none too happy about the old defaults either) 23:06:52 apparently people are too beholden to the 70s standards 23:07:21 gammafunk, no luck figuring out my patch? I think I'm gonna scrap it and start over because there's some really bizarre behavior going on with Depths and Hell/Pan placement 23:07:35 and I need to figure out what exactly it is 23:07:44 doing greps for BRANCH_VESTIBULE and BRANCH_PANDEMONIUM doesn't really solve it 23:07:47 so it's probably tag-related 23:08:29 the 70s had even fewer standards 23:09:48 every terminal manufacturer had their own idiosyncratic escapes and behaviors. see also: the terminfo database which was created to try to make sense of it 23:10:33 as a millennial I'm truly mystified that we're so deeply beholden to ancient standards for terminal colors 23:11:12 of course, I was never educated on the necessity of having only 16 colors 23:11:30 right now there is a half-standard: Windows ANSI.SYS. except not even modern Windows follows it fully, and there are no standards about how colors, bold, blink, etc. combine (because in old ANSI.SYS on CGA, bold selected the bright colors and background "bold" meant blink) 23:12:02 it's because the only color behavior you can depend on is what I just stated. DOS ANSI.SYS 23:12:10 anything else, anything goes 23:12:10 bleh 23:12:33 there has never been a true standard. there probably never will be one. 23:24:12 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 23:24:40 -!- WangHW has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:25:33 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:33:38 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:37:41 Brannock: well 16 colors is simple, that's how many colors you could even -display- 23:38:13 ofc, who knows why they didn't foresee that maybe more colors would be possible in future 23:38:16 or change it later 23:38:43 surely capability for evolution would have been built in, or at least accepted by the community 23:39:10 they weren't in the business of predicting the future, they were in the business of trying to guarantee a present baseline. this was driven by business requirements, which rarely think about anything but what is needed now 23:39:20 yeah 23:39:48 "do the easiest thing that works" is a good principle, but 23:39:58 it creates problems later sometimes 23:40:06 and the current mess with >16 colors, attributes with colors, etc. won't be standardized unless someone has a sufficient business need for them to be standardized 23:40:40 and again they will be standardized according to the immediate business need; if some future need requires something different, it will be up to someone with a business need then to do something about it 23:41:05 * Brannock expresses discontent yet acceptance/understanding 23:41:14 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 23:43:17 * geekosaur used to work in that environment. it's not great but it's understandable. business works by costs, overhead costs (for things such as this) are to be minimized, that means producing a minimal baseline now. nothing says don't add anything on top, but there will be no commonality in the addition 23:43:48 surely a business recognizes that short-term costs can be absorbed for long-term returns 23:44:01 (and, tbh, this is actually good. yes, one could add to X3.64 an extension. then a year from now someone comes up with an obviously better new way to do things... that doesn't fit the expansion spec.)( 23:44:15 (which happens in computer stuff ALL THE TIME) 23:45:14 also it's only a problem here because terminals are lagging wrt specifications... because who exactly uses them these days? 23:45:25 roguelike players. and...? 23:45:32 the people who do still aren't interested in 256 colors or bold vs. blink 23:45:36 SSH clients? 23:46:11 -!- Yermak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:46:12 willing to bet more people use remote desktop than ssh 23:46:17 heh, probably' 23:46:56 I guess it's just an issue of technology massively outpacing conventions, then? 23:47:25 and tech left behind (there is sadly a lot of truth to the joke about (web)tiles being the future), etc. 23:48:09 as technology simplifies, sophistication becomes standardized 23:48:11 tbh I'd probably use crawl webtiles more if it weren't basically a hack on top of the basic TUI interface 23:48:39 (inside the crawl codebase, which leads to some rather weird behaviors in the visible UI) 23:49:42 with 1149 open issues... yeah... 23:51:14 like a couple months ago someone (I think wheals) was trying to make an empty popup window not popup, and introduced a significant bug as a result --- basically because the code was still organized in a way that makes sense for console, and making part of the GUI wrapping optional resulted in state not being reset properly 23:52:02 er, GUI state not being reset 23:52:19 wow 23:52:40 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 23:52:53 rest assured I have my forehead in my palm trying to figure out how that'd happen 23:54:04 (in fact the GUI code also had to duplicate some game state cleanup, which also didn't happen. that was the X[ bug, if you were around for it) 23:54:46 -!- dondy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:55:25 -!- Krakhan|2 is now known as Krakhan 23:55:25 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 23:58:30 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev