00:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00:12 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.20-a0-259-gc929cd2 (34) 00:00:43 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 00:04:56 -!- Lasty has quit [Client Quit] 00:14:36 -!- haltingproblem has quit [Quit: haltingproblem] 00:24:00 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:29:44 -!- haltingproblem has quit [Client Quit] 00:32:54 !tell wheals thanks 00:32:55 chequers: OK, I'll let wheals know. 00:33:16 !lg chequers x=max(${tdam*1.0/mhp}) 00:33:16 Broken query near '{tdam*1.0/mhp})' 00:33:28 !lg chequers max=${tdam*1.0/mhp} x=tdam,mhp 00:33:29 1940. [tdam=36;mhp=16] chequers the Skirmisher (L1 OpAK of Lugonu), blasted by a black draconian (bolt of lightning) on Abyss:1 on 2014-10-08 00:35:19, with 0 points after 169 turns and 0:01:16. 00:33:41 -!- Taraiphette is now known as TarKILL 00:33:50 !lg chequers max=${tdam*1.0/mhp} x=tdam,mhp xl!=1 00:33:50 1722. [tdam=71;mhp=60] chequers the Basher (L11 GrMo of Qazlal), demolished by an eight-headed hydra simulacrum (kmap: serial_ice_g) on D:9 on 2014-11-01 03:22:06, with 7441 points after 8724 turns and 0:30:53. 00:34:02 !lg chequers max=${tdam*1.0/mhp} x=tdam,mhp xl!=1 tdam>=mhp 00:34:03 'mhp' is not an integer in 'tdam>=mhp' 00:34:13 !lg chequers max=${tdam*1.0/mhp} x=tdam,mhp xl!=1 ${tdam>=mhp} 00:34:13 9. [tdam=71;mhp=60] chequers the Basher (L11 GrMo of Qazlal), demolished by an eight-headed hydra simulacrum (kmap: serial_ice_g) on D:9 on 2014-11-01 03:22:06, with 7441 points after 8724 turns and 0:30:53. 00:34:19 !lg chequers max=${tdam*1.0/mhp} x=tdam,mhp xl!=1 ${tdam>=mhp} -2 00:34:20 8/9. [tdam=27;mhp=24] chequers the Skirmisher (L2 DsAK of Lugonu), mangled by Crazy Yiuf (a +2 quarterstaff of chaos) on D:2 (uniq_crazy_yiuf_cottage) on 2015-10-11 04:25:40, with 20 points after 1379 turns and 0:02:26. 00:34:30 !lg chequers max=${tdam*1.0/mhp} x=tdam,mhp xl!=1 ${tdam>=mhp} s=tdam 00:34:31 Extra fields (x=tdam,mhp) contain non-aggregates 00:34:37 !lg chequers max=${tdam*1.0/mhp} xl!=1 ${tdam>=mhp} s=tdam 00:34:38 9 games for chequers (xl!=1 ${tdam>=mhp}): 2x 27, 40, 28, 38, 25, 65, 71, 135 00:34:44 !lg chequers max=${tdam*1.0/mhp} xl!=1 ${tdam>=mhp} tdam=135 00:34:45 1. chequers the Brawler (L14 TrHu of Okawaru), slain by an eight-headed hydra on Lair:5 on 2015-10-17 00:08:55, with 48438 points after 17742 turns and 0:40:48. 00:36:41 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:39:28 -!- Pacra_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:39:30 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:42:58 -!- bgiannan has joined ##crawl-dev 00:44:44 -!- haltingproblem has quit [Quit: haltingproblem] 00:46:19 -!- chcl3 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:48:08 -!- Placid has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:50:54 -!- Telnaior has quit [Quit: Quit: Quit: Quit:] 00:56:48 -!- TarKILL is now known as Taraiph 01:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:00:17 -!- valrus has quit [Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. 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(www.adiirc.com)] 01:14:23 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 01:15:58 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 01:18:21 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 01:19:06 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.20-a0-259-gc929cd2 (34) 01:29:47 -!- protopulse has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:34:57 -!- bgiannan has quit [Disconnected by services] 01:35:00 -!- bgiannan_ is now known as bgiannan 01:35:25 -!- bgiannan_ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:39:40 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 01:42:46 -!- lion_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:43:42 -!- chcl3 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:45:15 -!- nikheizen has quit [Quit: leaving] 01:47:51 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:52:42 crawl law: the first piece of +0 aux armour you enchant is the first one you will replace 01:56:16 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.20-a0-259-gc929cd2 01:58:53 rast (L22 HaBe) (D (Sprint)) 01:59:09 nice 01:59:32 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 02:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:00:37 -!- myp has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:01:15 -!- Lasty has quit [Client Quit] 02:08:01 is the robe of vines meant to have a unique tile? 02:08:01 it doesn't in my game 02:08:20 -!- WalrusKing has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:08:22 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/99797890309840896/254141670646480896/Screen_Shot_2016-12-02_at_6.08.03_pm.png 02:08:33 ontoclasm: is this meant to be a unique tile? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/99797890309840896/254141670646480896/Screen_Shot_2016-12-02_at_6.08.03_pm.png 02:10:49 chequers: no 02:10:58 i guess still nobody's made a robe of vines tile 02:11:13 i uh, 02:11:19 wonder who could do that 02:11:28 * ontoclasm flickers and vanishes! 02:13:21 :) 02:19:34 -!- sooheon has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:28:38 -!- Patashu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:33:53 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 02:36:08 -!- aditya has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 02:39:17 -!- bug_sniper_ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:52:37 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.20-a0-259-gc929cd2 02:59:41 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 03:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:07:10 -!- SteelNeuron has joined ##crawl-dev 03:12:52 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.20-a0-259-gc929cd2 (34) 03:18:17 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:20:55 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 03:21:59 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:22:05 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Changing host] 03:39:26 -!- Hakkniv has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:42:14 -!- Pacra_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:42:37 -!- Pacra_ has joined ##crawl-dev 03:44:55 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:47:18 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:59:27 !tell pleasingfungus autofight leaves servants of whispers until after saltlings 03:59:27 chequers: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 04:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:04:01 -!- Zxpr1jk has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:09:26 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 04:11:44 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:17:19 !tell pleasingfungus since salt is currently a loot vault it feels weird spawning in elf specifically, since that feels like loot vault in loot vault 04:17:20 chequers: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 04:17:56 -!- IgnoremeK has quit [Client Quit] 04:21:35 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 04:22:05 -!- Bammboo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:23:21 -!- aditya has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:35:47 -!- Morg0th has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 04:36:51 -!- myfreeweb has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:37:08 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 04:38:58 -!- zeroDivisible has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:49:52 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 04:51:35 -!- Lasty has quit [Client Quit] 04:54:31 -!- Patashu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:07:22 -!- Patashu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 05:15:02 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 05:27:38 -!- Zekka_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:36:48 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:39:23 -!- kdrnic has joined ##crawl-dev 05:39:42 -!- buki has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:41:19 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Quit: Probably restarting if not leaving] 05:43:37 !lg * current hells s=br 05:43:38 166 games for * (current hells): 65x Dis, 48x Geh, 30x Coc, 23x Tar 05:44:06 !lm * current br.enter=dis|geh|coc|tar x=avg(xl) s=br 05:44:57 3270 milestones for * (current br.enter=dis|geh|coc|tar): 829x Dis [26.81], 828x Geh [26.82], 814x Tar [26.92], 799x Coc [26.91] 05:45:34 heh, so the death order is exaclty opposite branch entry order 05:56:22 !kw hells 05:56:22 Keyword: hells => place=tar|dis|geh|coc 05:56:53 !lm * current br.enter=dir|geh|coc|tar s=br o=% / lg:br=$noun 05:57:02 100/2443 milestones for * (current br.enter=dir|geh|coc|tar): 47/828x Geh [5.68%], 30/800x Coc [3.75%], 23/815x Tar [2.82%] 05:57:09 !lm * current br.enter=dis|geh|coc|tar s=br o=% / lg:br=$noun 05:57:13 165/3272 milestones for * (current br.enter=dis|geh|coc|tar): 65/829x Dis [7.84%], 47/828x Geh [5.68%], 30/800x Coc [3.75%], 23/815x Tar [2.82%] 05:57:40 those entry xls are very similar to each other, I think it's just that people are dying in dis due to monster differences 05:57:50 possible hell effects to a degree 05:57:57 since dis has petrification, but I bet that's not too much of it 05:58:11 !l * current dis !boring s=cikiller% 05:58:43 !lg * current dis !boring s=cikiller% 05:58:44 65 games for * (current dis !boring): 19x a Hell Sentinel (29.23%), 11x the effects of Hell (16.92%), 6x the Serpent of Hell (9.23%), 5x a hellion (7.69%), 4x Dispater (6.15%), 4x a Brimstone Fiend (6.15%), 3x a quicksilver dragon (4.62%), 3x an iron giant (4.62%), 2x an iron troll (3.08%), 2x the rage of Trog (3.08%), 2x an Ice Fiend (3.08%), a reaper (1.54%), an enchanted battleaxe (1.54%), a wa... 05:59:04 !lg * current geh !boring s=cikiller% 05:59:05 48 games for * (current geh !boring): 17x a Brimstone Fiend (35.42%), 8x a hellion (16.67%), 8x Asmodeus (16.67%), 7x the effects of Hell (14.58%), 3x the Serpent of Hell (6.25%), a smoke demon (2.08%), a lich (2.08%), a fire giant (2.08%), a balrug (2.08%), (2.08%) 05:59:13 main factor seems to be hellfire 05:59:22 or perhaps just hell sentinels 05:59:42 since those have hp, ac, all resistances, and iron shot 06:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:00:23 !lg * recent dis !boring s=cikiller% 06:00:24 328 games for * (recent dis !boring): 76x an iron giant (23.17%), 66x a Hell Sentinel (20.12%), 64x the effects of Hell (19.51%), 23x a Brimstone Fiend (7.01%), 20x a hellion (6.10%), 18x the Serpent of Hell (5.49%), 11x Dispater (3.35%), 10x an Ice Fiend (3.05%), 8x a reaper (2.44%), 8x (2.44%), 6x a war gargoyle (1.83%), 5x a quicksilver dragon (1.52%), 3x the rage of Trog (0.91%), 2x a player g... 06:00:33 -!- bgiannan has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.5] 06:00:35 iron giants are probably a lot less of a factor these days 06:00:47 -!- bgiannan has joined ##crawl-dev 06:04:55 -!- kdrnic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:24:09 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Quit: I like to rock] 07:00:01 -!- 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(www.adiirc.com)] 08:52:20 -!- _Jordan_ has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 08:53:15 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 08:53:29 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:54:30 !messages 08:54:31 (1/3) Rast said (1w 3d 8h 25m 20s ago): i changed my mind. i think gozag need piety decay 08:54:36 !messages 08:54:36 (1/2) Rast said (1w 3d 8h 24m 13s ago): with normal gods, dawdling trades piety for xp. with gozag it just means more of both, unless you run out of food, which would require extreme amounts of wasting time. 08:54:43 !messages 08:54:44 (1/1) rast said (1w 2d 8h 15m 28s ago): wandering in the abyss increases gozag join cost.... 08:54:53 !seen Rast 08:54:53 I last saw rast at Mon Nov 28 15:42:29 2016 UTC (3d 22h 12m 24s ago) quitting, saying 'Read error: Connection reset by peer'. 08:55:23 !tell Rast My main worry is that Gozag encourages chasing after every tiny monster (because gold is permanent piety, unlike other gods). 08:55:24 dpeg: OK, I'll let rast know. 08:55:55 !tell Rast But I also think this should be solved in a completely different way (those monsters should not exist, i.e. disappear). Thanks for feedback! 08:55:55 dpeg: OK, I'll let rast know. 08:56:34 !tell Rast Much more effective (for me) would be email. I'll try to ping you once/if we're both on ##crawl-dev. 08:56:34 dpeg: OK, I'll let rast know. 08:57:56 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 08:58:43 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:01:43 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 09:12:27 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 09:17:11 -!- chcl3 has quit [Client Quit] 09:24:13 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:26:30 -!- eggzz has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:34:43 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:39:25 -!- Patashu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:44:43 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.20-a0-260-gb24ad0c: Simplify handling of TSO, Makhleb, Trog allies on abandonment 10(29 minutes ago, 5 files, 22+ 81-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b24ad0cd3e5d 09:44:43 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.20-a0-261-gcb1eca7: Make Zin penance end sanctuary 10(29 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/cb1eca7a03e2 09:44:56 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 09:49:58 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 10:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:00:02 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 10:05:14 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 10:05:48 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:05:53 -!- sooheon has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:08:59 -!- TuxQmoob has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:09:25 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.20-a0-261-gcb1eca7 (34) 10:11:09 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:12:34 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:15:02 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 10:15:28 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 10:18:53 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:19:02 -!- Ladykiller69 has joined ##crawl-dev 10:19:15 fr: rename war gargoyles wargoyles 10:24:14 -!- kdrnic has joined ##crawl-dev 10:30:02 -!- jfunk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:30:39 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:32:48 -!- TuxQmooob has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:34:22 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Changing host] 10:36:46 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 10:37:06 -!- whig is now known as suncrab 10:37:10 -!- suncrab has joined ##crawl-dev 10:43:01 -!- sage1234 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:43:15 -!- sooheon has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:46:56 -!- Cryp71c has joined ##crawl-dev 11:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:04:46 -!- _Jordan_ has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 11:06:15 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 11:11:39 -!- chcl3 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 11:23:49 -!- Morg0th has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:27:35 -!- sooheon has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:31:23 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 11:31:56 -!- DevlanMud has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:34:03 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 11:34:25 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.93 [Firefox 50.0.1/20161123182536]] 11:42:27 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:44:02 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 11:46:28 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 11:48:36 -!- Kranix has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:48:36 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:52:09 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 12:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:00:10 -!- sooheon has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 12:00:31 -!- Xiberia has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 12:02:09 -!- THERetroGamerNY has quit [Quit: Be Blessed!] 12:05:09 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:08:37 -!- SteelNeuron has joined ##crawl-dev 12:13:05 did fedhas piety gain change along with the change to fedhas piety decay? i've got a fedhas guy with two runes and halfway done with vaults, and i've been wearing "faith for a big chunk of the game but i've still never hit ****** 12:14:18 -!- Ge0ff has quit [Client Quit] 12:15:14 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 12:15:39 -!- valrus_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:16:52 !messages 12:16:52 No messages for SteelNeuron. 12:18:35 -!- Pacra__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:18:59 -!- Pacra__ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:25:42 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.20-a0-261-gcb1eca7 (34) 12:32:16 -!- sooheon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:34:07 -!- duvessa has joined ##crawl-dev 12:34:20 is it intended that Js can go berserk now 12:36:16 -!- Kranix has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:36:16 -!- Harudoku has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:39:25 also why can Vp butcher corpses at all now that simulacum/sub.blood are fixed 12:40:05 Yackwabbit (L10 MiFi) ASSERT(verb_index < (int)ARRAYSZ(attack_types)) in 'mon-util.cc' at line 2068 failed. (D:8) 12:41:29 Yackwabbit (L10 MiFi) ASSERT(verb_index < (int)ARRAYSZ(attack_types)) in 'mon-util.cc' at line 2068 failed. (D:8) 12:41:43 -!- aditya has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:42:38 oh, I guess it's so that Vp can close doors, duh 12:56:31 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 13:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:05:28 -!- sooheon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:07:04 -!- Zekka_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:08:06 !seen Lasty 13:08:06 dpeg: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 13:08:06 I last saw Lasty at Fri Dec 2 15:15:28 2016 UTC (2h 52m 38s ago) joining the channel. 13:08:11 !messages 13:08:11 (1/2) johnny0 said (1h 47m 2s ago): Is it okay if another web-accessible telnet->termcast.develz.org site is advertised for testing (mainly to ##crawl-dev)? It's like the shalott.org/tv site, but with 256-color support. 13:09:05 johnny0: not sure why you ask me, but I don't see why another channel could be bad. 13:09:08 !messages 13:09:08 (1/1) johnny0 said (2m 53s ago): oh oops, i just realized i should have sent that to napkin -- probably good for you to know about too though 13:09:12 haha 13:12:06 -!- _Jordan_ has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 13:14:11 -!- adelrune has joined ##crawl-dev 13:21:01 -!- Danei_Prime has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:52:36 -!- chcl3 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:53:46 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:58:25 -!- frd has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:00:25 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:01:31 I never thought this would happen, but I've finally ended up with the mythical character where wild magic is detrimental 14:02:22 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 14:05:55 -!- mibe has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:06:48 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 14:06:52 !crashlog Yackwabbit 14:06:52 PleasingFungus: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 14:06:53 2. Yackwabbit, XL10 MiFi, T:5221 (milestone): http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/Yackwabbit/crash-Yackwabbit-20161202-174117.txt 14:07:03 amalloy: it did not 14:07:08 re fedhas piety gain 14:07:14 it's really hard to gain fedhas piety right now 14:07:18 in my experience 14:07:22 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 14:07:44 duvessa: mpa intentionally changed js to go berserk about... 6? 9? months back 14:08:00 %git 14:08:00 07MarvinPA02 * 0.20-a0-261-gcb1eca7: Make Zin penance end sanctuary 10(5 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/cb1eca7a03e2 14:08:04 hrm 14:08:25 !source dat/des/portals/volcano.dex 14:08:26 Can't find dat/des/portals/volcano.dex. 14:08:27 !source dat/des/portals/volcano.dex 14:08:28 Can't find dat/des/portals/volcano.dex. 14:08:31 @??charred statue 14:08:31 charred statue (158) | Spd: 10 (07stationary) | HD: 3 | HP: 12 | AC/EV: 12/1 | Dam: 20 | 11non-living, 10items, 10doors, master archer, unbreathing, 07vault | Res: 13magic(immune), 05fire++, 02cold++, 10elec, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | XP: 32 | Sp: throw flame (3d5) [06!sil] | Sz: Large | Int: human. 14:08:34 @??charred statue:spec 14:08:34 unknown monster: "charred statue:spec" 14:09:02 oh right that's a veh vault 14:12:14 PleasingFungus: it felt like there was a proper amount of fedhas piety early game - enough that i could keep up mushrooms but not if i wanted to get above like **.... - it's just that in the late game even light usage of god powers seems to be keeping me at like ****.. or *****. 14:14:36 idk! 14:14:40 clearly time to switch to J 14:15:15 -!- stickyfingers has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:15:36 that is coming real soon 14:15:42 i'm using up my fruits soon 14:16:02 but i felt like...man, if this were a tournament game, i wouldn't even be getting the F points. how dumb is that 14:18:39 lil dumb 14:19:07 i would completely believe that some f tweaking is appropriate, especially if it could somehow be tweaking for later fedhas and not early 14:19:26 since the meme is only about fedhas being overpowered initially, after all :) 14:19:31 -!- wheals has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:19:40 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 14:20:31 you could reduce the piety cost for reproduction/rain, leaving evolution as is. or you could increase piety gain rate,a nd increase cost of evolution to keep early game similar 14:22:08 -!- qguv has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:25:03 -!- Cryp71c has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:27:18 yeah, both seem plausible 14:27:58 -!- valrus_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:30:36 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:32:03 -!- adelrune has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:34:01 -!- Eronarn__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:34:02 -!- infrashortfoo_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:37:45 also, some kind of reminder that when you're fedhas you should be less keen to butcher corpses and eat fruit would be nice. every single fedhas game i forget 14:37:55 -!- Concrocotta has quit [Quit: Ciao] 14:37:58 lol 14:38:00 i have to rebind c to :are you sure????????????? 14:38:08 when i get to d:11 and realize i'm still at ...... 14:38:53 lol 14:44:41 how does autobutcher behave with fedhas, anyway? 14:48:12 -!- Ladykiller70 has joined ##crawl-dev 14:50:15 -!- THERetroGamerNY has quit [Quit: Be Blessed!] 14:51:18 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:53:11 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 14:56:59 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 14:59:30 -!- Eronarn__ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:02:17 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 15:13:40 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 15:13:51 amalloy: i believe it functions normally 15:14:03 which is one of the reasons it's not on by default right now 15:17:17 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 15:24:37 why does dispel undead not have an ALWAYS_HIT tohit function in zap-data.h 15:25:03 is it an enchantment in some weird corner case or somethng? 15:25:30 !source zap-data.h:502 15:25:30 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/zap-data.h#L502 15:25:39 tohit is a power multiplier for enchantments 15:25:39 MarvinPA: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 15:26:04 see also slow, agony, etc 15:26:05 (learn add crawlcode) 15:28:03 wow, dispel undead is an enchantment... 15:35:52 -!- aditya has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:42:12 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:45:10 -!- Zekka_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:46:56 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:59:39 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. 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And they're unhappy about lack of emails! 18:31:23 Times are changing 18:31:43 well, i think it's not so much a "times are changing" as novelty vs fatigue 18:32:04 amalloy: you should just forward all your email to dpeg's children! 18:32:10 wow 18:32:13 please don't 18:32:13 i accept 18:32:25 they're unspoiled and innocent 18:32:26 guess i have to stop sending amalloy nudes 18:32:33 where did you find amalloy nudes? 18:32:37 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 18:32:46 amalloy: aren't they all over the place? 18:32:51 no i meant my nudes 18:33:23 sadly the emails i am getting too many of are confidential work emails anyway. my personal account is fine 18:33:37 amalloy: where do you work? 18:33:48 google, as of pretty recently 18:34:05 man, so many of the crawlers I talk to on IRC are Googlers 18:34:13 <3 18:34:19 join us. resistance is futile 18:34:23 Do you ever work w/ moose or bh? 18:34:32 moose was trying to recruit me recently 18:34:35 it might work eventually 18:34:59 amalloy: just yesterday I read Keen's "The internet is not the answer". Familiar with the book? 18:35:05 i'm not, dpeg 18:35:09 you should! 18:35:27 Lasty1: i haven't, no. bh is on the other side of the country evidently, but i chatted with him a bit before i joined 18:35:37 don't know who moose is, either on irc or at google 18:35:55 it is very biased, but should be recommended reading for anyone working in one of the big digital companies, imo 18:37:42 amalloy: pfft, you don't know the handful of people I know at a company that employs tens of thousands? 18:37:42 -!- Harudoku has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 18:38:24 against all odds 18:42:10 dpeg: read both emails, and I like the idea a lot. I think it could be a very good mechanic. It doesn't appear to have any piece that motivates degenerate play, and it should limit some degenerate play. 18:44:11 dpeg: I'd like to bikeshed over the status change a bit -- not sure what the best vocab would be, but I'd prefer something that implies some scary process happened to them 18:44:20 terrible suggestion: "bezotted" 18:44:36 better suggestion: "monstrous", "mutated", "nightmare" 18:54:01 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 18:56:13 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:06:20 -!- chcl3 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:11:11 back 19:11:22 -!- Kenran has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:11:30 bezotted <3 19:11:39 extra bonus style points for containing "zot" :) 19:12:17 I thought of "angry" because it's short and sounds like "more dangerous" 19:12:25 "mutated" is misleading 19:13:38 also, a mental change, like "mad", "angry", "furious", "grim", "fierce" makes more sense for a monster that changes in sight of the player 19:16:06 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 19:16:17 dpeg: I was thinking of it reflecting a dungeon that is inherently full of malign force that would actively warp the creatures 19:16:22 otherwise, why aren't they always angry? 19:16:24 -!- Menche has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:17:39 dpeg: how much buffer is a bezotted monster? In a standard full-clear of a floor, how many bezotted monsters will a player encounter? 19:18:21 our choice 19:18:41 oh, and I think it might be feasible to allow iterations of the process 19:18:50 -!- chcl3 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:18:56 There are various applications of the mechanic I have in mind: 19:19:04 -!- sooheon has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:19:05 -!- jeefus has joined ##crawl-dev 19:19:56 (1) A replacement for energy randomisation: if a monster following you can randomly become faster, that solves pillar dancing. This change would be a player favourite :) 19:20:48 yeah, I can just picture the happy faces now 19:21:02 (2) A counter to luring: how strong is, again, our choice: if monsters are itching to bezot, (say, a monster following you for 30 turns has a 50% zo bezot), then it's a major change. 19:21:16 (3) A penalty for skipping levels. 19:21:41 Lasty1: if you think I should put this up somewhere, just tell me. I now have a bit of time to do that. 19:22:15 dpeg: yeah, I think this is worth CRDing 19:22:16 * dpeg also recalls that there were some things he wanted to put forward after the tournament -- but mind is blank :O 19:22:16 * Sequell also also recalls that there were some things he wanted to put forward after the tournament -- but mind is blank :O 19:22:31 If I had more time I'd put a branch together 19:22:41 -!- jefus- has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:24:05 btw, are damage numbers already on the trunk servers? 19:24:44 ah, I dimly recall: one point was about how to do traps Right (TM) 19:26:14 damage numbers? 19:26:27 PF has a branch where monster damage is shown 19:26:38 which imo is the single most relevant number we don't show right now 19:28:06 I always hoped we can suppress the number by indicating "this monster can kill you in one hit" but I got conviced otherwise 19:28:14 -!- Menche has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:28:29 oh ah 19:28:36 I thought he pushed it to trunk 19:30:57 it's in trunk 19:31:12 kinda wish it accounted for might/berserk 19:31:31 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:31:41 I guess all the other minor stuff I had in mind is on the planning page. Thank Brannock for planning page! 19:32:39 woo 19:33:29 <|amethyst> minmay: I suspect ignoring might/berserk is an oversight and that a bug report would lead to it being fixed 19:34:29 i don't think it's a bug, it doesn't account for a bunch of stuff 19:35:27 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:36:12 wow, I see xv damage and the new console colours for the first time 19:36:22 feels like an entirely new game :) 19:37:19 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 19:38:56 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:41:12 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:44:03 -!- MadCoyote is now known as FunkyBomb 19:44:38 I am fine with the new colours but is there a write-up about the new defaults etc.? 19:46:41 -!- hellmonk has joined ##crawl-dev 19:48:42 -!- Ladykiller70 has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 19:51:21 <|amethyst> afaik just the stuff in options.txt 19:51:54 has it been updated? 19:51:58 I am happy to read it :) 19:52:22 also, as a bog-standard linux user, how do I get to use 256 console colours? 19:52:53 <|amethyst> are you using the actual console, or a terminal emulator? 19:53:11 xterm, or what's called "shell" 19:53:11 <|amethyst> most X terminal emulators already support 256 colous 19:53:13 cool 19:53:38 this and diacrits, and we'll show those tilists!!!1! 19:53:42 <|amethyst> see the allow_extended_colours option for more info (you have to set your TERM) 19:53:54 yes, will read that in a moment 19:54:19 <|amethyst> I don't think you can actually use more than 16 colours unfortunately 19:54:22 Fun fact: I got into the devteam by creating and structuring options.txt :) 19:54:51 <|amethyst> but the option will let Crawl use 256colour stuff for e.g. bright blue, rather than doing just bold + blue 19:54:53 it would be awesome to use "bright X" vs "dark X" to show "seen"/"out of view" terrain 19:55:37 <|amethyst> you're going to have Crawl looking like Brogue before long... :) 19:55:45 no no, don't worry 19:55:56 you probably know my opinion about Brogue's aeshetics :) 19:57:54 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 20:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:01:20 -!- aditya has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.6] 20:08:43 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 20:15:35 -!- MIC132 has joined ##crawl-dev 20:15:47 -!- asdu has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:15:47 -!- MIC132 has quit [Client Quit] 20:26:51 -!- irctc011 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:38:46 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 20:42:42 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 20:43:12 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 20:46:19 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 20:47:51 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 20:58:19 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:58:56 -!- asdu has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:00:02 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 21:00:12 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:22:35 -!- chcl3 has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 21:24:46 -!- chcl3 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:28:27 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 21:41:54 -!- jbenedetto has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 21:52:59 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 21:53:11 -!- hellmonk has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:56:42 -!- sooheon has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 22:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:00:32 I've been working on kramell2.0 for ##crawl announcements 22:00:43 implemented a JSON based filter system 22:00:46 e.g. https://github.com/Kramin42/Crawl-Announcer/blob/master/fixtures/default_channels.yml 22:01:01 should be ready to use soon :) 22:01:31 see ##crawl-announcements to see it in action 22:17:00 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:22:56 -!- derail has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:27:36 -!- nefhilion has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:30:18 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 22:40:19 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 22:52:05 oh no, yml 22:53:08 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 22:54:28 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 22:55:03 -!- Pacra__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:55:08 greensnark would be proud 22:55:33 -!- MarvinPA_ has left ##crawl-dev 22:55:36 the actual filter is a JSON string in the yml file though :P 22:56:10 the yml file is just a default database contents file 22:57:55 Kramell2.0 is based on my new central crawl milestone service thing https://github.com/Kramin42/Crawl-PubSub 22:58:46 has an api for fetching events (milestones/logs) and you can connect via socketio to get a livestream of new events 22:59:10 chequers is hosting it at https://api.crawl.project357.org/ 23:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:00:17 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:00:59 average latency from person doing event to Kramell2.0 knowing about it hovers around 10 seconds 23:01:21 which is pretty good imo 23:04:22 -!- xnavy_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:07:30 !tell dpeg what is your opinion about Brogue's aesthetics? 23:07:31 Brannock: OK, I'll let dpeg know. 23:09:05 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 23:15:54 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:16:09 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 23:17:44 -!- valrus has quit [Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. 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