00:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00:09 convince whoever runs cbro to host it 00:00:10 but I would need a better way to play it...I guess just playing locally 00:00:25 also wait a few weeks so I can remove a bunch more shit 00:00:27 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.20-a0-256-gabb291d (34) 00:00:52 <|amethyst> hellmonk: you might have more luck making that happen if you called him "johnstein" instead of "whoever" :) 00:01:06 ty fam 00:02:02 :c 00:02:36 but |amethyst is correct! 00:02:48 ??hellcraw 00:02:49 hellcraw ~ hellcrawl[1/1]: A meme fork developed by hellmonk. Features: less experience. Unfeatures: everything tavern hates. Playable on {cpo}. 00:03:33 -!- Taraiph has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:04:39 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 00:04:42 it would be trivial to host if there was a PR for it in the crawl/crawl repo. but that's probably not ideal 00:05:14 I wonder if I added the hellcrawl remote if the update scripts would Just Work 00:05:26 feel like it wouldn't since 00:05:47 I don't call him johnstein, I call him by his steam name: xXxM@X1Mum0verK1llS3rv3rL0rd0m3g@27xXx 00:05:59 wondering if if the scripts assume only an origin remote 00:06:20 I imagine it'd be set up like how you did for council god, no? 00:06:45 if it were a regular PR yea 00:07:00 oh, I see 00:07:19 yeah, I guess you'd just want to use a more normal setup but not use the official repo 00:07:38 I can't imagine it's too hard to do that with the dgl setup, but I'm not familiar with that part 00:08:10 hellmonk: also, since johnstein is busy managing so many things already, and since hellcrawl is a meme fork 00:08:17 you could ask the meme server admin to host it 00:08:24 ??cjr 00:08:24 cjr[1/2]: https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks:8081/ Hosted in Montreal by Zibudo (admin@jorgrun.rocks) and Grammus. SSH login info: https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/console.html. 00:08:30 ahh, good idea 00:08:36 he might be interesting in learning how to do that 00:08:45 then I can buff jorgrun to 30 hd to convince him 00:08:58 now you're thinking like a RogueLike Designer 00:10:13 PleasingFungus: have you considered swapping transferrance and idealise unlock order 00:10:16 oops 00:10:19 no 00:11:29 We're looping! 00:28:57 ??dgamelaunch-config 00:28:57 I don't have a page labeled dgamelaunch-config in my learndb. 00:31:11 -!- panicbit has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:34:14 hmm it might work 00:39:28 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 00:45:08 -!- Pacra_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:45:09 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:45:15 -!- haltingproblem has quit [Quit: haltingproblem] 01:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:03:20 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 01:05:05 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.93 [Firefox 50.0.1/20161123182536]] 01:05:55 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 01:06:10 -!- haltingproblem has quit [Quit: haltingproblem] 01:06:11 !tell marvinpa "...to deal up to 21 cold damage if any damage is dealt' sounds like a logic puzzle. 01:06:12 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let marvinpa know. 01:06:22 or a paradox, possibly 01:07:53 -!- _Jordan_ has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 01:09:18 -!- Xiberia has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 01:10:19 PleasingFungus: thanks to you and neil for fixing that save 01:10:40 sadly, i lost the 15 runing and high score, but better than quitting anyways 01:16:43 nothing is bettern than quitting, WalkerBoh 01:16:49 *better 01:16:55 you quit to win. big. 01:16:55 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 01:17:34 !hs gammafunk boring 01:17:35 1565. gammafunk the Demonologist (L27 HEIE of Sif Muna), quit the game on D:1 on 2014-02-22 20:26:26, with 941018 points after 49424 turns and 12:08:34. 01:17:38 like a boss 01:20:51 -!- WalrusKing has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:22:40 if anyone enjoys programming exercises, http://adventofcode.com/2016 has started. my solutions will be at https://github.com/amalloy/advent-of-code-2016 if anyone is interested in reading them 01:26:36 -!- hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:28:47 amalloy: neat 01:32:33 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:36:23 -!- aegolden has joined ##crawl-dev 01:44:34 -!- bgiannan1 has joined ##crawl-dev 02:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:01:38 %git :/Don't 02:01:38 07Brannock02 * 0.20-a0-242-gffcfc1b: Don't let killing blows wake sleeping characters 10(31 hours ago, 1 file, 5+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ffcfc1b5ab43 02:01:46 %git :/down-weight 02:01:46 07gammafunk02 * 0.20-a0-226-gc242636: Don't down-weight a vault and make most of its monsters non-patrolling 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 3+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c242636bd148 02:02:00 !kw lairtemple2 vlong>=0.20-a0-226-gc242636 02:02:01 Defined keyword: lairtemple2 => vlong>=0.20-a0-226-gc242636 02:02:10 !lairendkills lairtemple2 02:02:10 Lair End kills (lairtemple2): evil_forest (20.00%), hangedman_lair_in_review (20.00%), minmay_lair_end_enchanted_forest (20.00%), minmay_lair_end_frog_pond (20.00%), wormcave (20.00%) 02:02:21 need to make orcendkills now 02:04:45 -!- bgiannan has quit [Disconnected by services] 02:04:52 -!- bgiannan1 is now known as bgiannan 02:05:10 -!- bgiannan_ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:06:09 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.93 [Firefox 50.0.1/20161123182536]] 02:14:29 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:20:24 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 02:26:29 -!- geekosaur has quit [Excess Flood] 02:28:38 -!- ig0rbit has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:28:48 -!- geekosaur has joined ##crawl-dev 02:28:55 -!- Zxpr1jk has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:32:06 -!- Patashu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:40:04 -!- SteelNeuron has joined ##crawl-dev 02:40:13 !messages 02:40:14 No messages for SteelNeuron. 02:40:58 -!- bgiannan has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:46:48 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:57:42 -!- aegolden has quit [Quit: aegolden] 03:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:03:23 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 03:05:03 -!- twelwe has joined ##crawl-dev 03:05:37 any late night chat vibes? 03:06:03 I imagine this chat is primarily US right? 03:06:14 I'm drinking my morning coffee :) 03:06:45 -!- aegolden has joined ##crawl-dev 03:07:11 do you know that i don`t normally drink coffe at all, but right now i am. i have lots and lots lots of it a whole cup 03:07:49 twelwe: Turning it into code? 03:08:12 sister, i don`t turn anything into code 03:08:43 thought you were developing the tloc god? Or did I get that mixed up? 03:08:46 about the hardest thing i can do is press the button to make my highlight test bold 03:09:06 chequers is doing the code. you can help if you want! 03:09:26 you will get alot whole of credit. i just make some ideas 03:09:56 oh! I see :) 03:10:25 if you can see, this is a message for you: there are open spots to make the tloc god all coded up 03:10:44 Sounds tempting. I don't want to spread myself too thin working on two gods (and I'm already testing many people's patience!) but I'll take a look at the code when IJC is fully finished 03:11:47 make it happen 03:15:59 -!- aditya has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 03:25:05 Experimental (councilgod-PR) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.20-a0-253-g212d612 03:25:58 -!- kramin has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:26:10 -!- valrus has quit [Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. 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* current o=-% 08:11:30 Orc End kills (current o=-%): 2x grunt_orc_community_house_3 (0.21%), 5x grunt_orc_community_big_house_2 (0.52%), 6x grunt_orc_community_big_house_1 (0.63%), 19x kennysheep_orc_mage_school (1.99%), 31x st_orc_town (3.24%), 32x st_orc_mages (3.34%), 40x st_orc_elflike (4.18%), 49x st_orc_ogre_mass (5.12%), 54x pubby_orc_utopia (5.64%), 58x grunt_orc_community_town_hall (6.06%), 59x grunt_orc_tribal... 08:11:46 oh 08:19:11 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:21:05 !orcendkills * current 08:21:07 Orc End kills (* current): 138x grunt_orc_garden (14.42%), 91x pf_orc_diabolical (9.51%), 85x st_orc_congregation (8.88%), 84x st_orc_pillars (8.78%), 72x grunt_orc_cross (7.52%), 72x st_orc_open (7.52%), 71x grunt_orc_community_town_hall (7.42%), 60x st_orc_rangers (6.27%), 59x grunt_orc_tribal_feast (6.17%), 54x pubby_orc_utopia (5.64%), 49x st_orc_ogre_mass (5.12%), 40x st_orc_elflike (4.18%), ... 08:21:09 there we go 08:22:37 !tell PleasingFungus For a list of orc end vaults in 0.19+ by % of kills they get, see: !orcendkills * current 08:22:38 gammafunk: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 08:23:39 that's not adjusted for any vault weight though 08:24:01 pubbies would be near the top if you multiply the kill% by two 08:24:21 and it's the only one with half-weight 08:27:23 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:27:36 !lg * current orc-end 08:27:38 957. newuser the Brawler (L14 GhBe of Trog), slain by an orc warrior (a +0 glaive) (kmap: pf_orc_diabolical) on Orc:2 on 2016-12-01 11:46:44, with 60084 points after 19095 turns and 0:44:45. 08:28:35 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 08:33:22 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 08:35:03 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:40:55 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:45:48 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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Use !messages to read them. 11:49:23 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 11:49:48 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:52:21 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:54:16 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 11:57:01 -!- myp has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:01:45 -!- LexAckson__ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:04:00 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 12:04:34 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.20-a0-256-gabb291d (34) 12:05:20 -!- LexAckson_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:21:11 -!- stickyfingers has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:27:14 -!- haltingproblem has quit [Quit: haltingproblem] 12:27:39 -!- aditya has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:31:26 -!- nikheizen has joined ##crawl-dev 12:34:10 -!- dtsund has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:34:57 -!- adelrune has joined ##crawl-dev 12:46:42 -!- nikheizen has quit [Quit: leaving] 12:54:19 -!- duvessa has joined ##crawl-dev 12:54:33 obsidian axe doesnt work with jumping spider blinking 12:54:38 You cannot move away from something! 12:55:40 nice 12:58:58 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 13:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:04:51 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 13:08:25 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 13:08:38 -!- ElanMorin has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.6] 13:16:17 -!- chcl3 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:22:54 -!- FatShack has quit [Quit: Quit] 13:23:07 -!- Pacra_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:23:31 -!- Pacra_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:25:22 -!- thionite has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:33:00 how can the character tell that xom is smirking anyway 13:34:33 -!- Bammboo has quit [Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client ( http://www.androirc.com )] 13:34:39 -!- Bammboobies is now known as Bammboo 13:35:15 -!- Bammboo is now known as Bammboobies 13:36:40 it seems like a pretty safe bet, tbh 13:37:50 xom is inscrutable... 13:39:19 i assume smirks go over the same ineffable channel as how you can tell that god accepts your kill, or is exalted by your worship 13:40:29 i just assume that whenever i step on a rat okawaru says "I ACCEPT YOUR KILL" 13:40:50 AN HONOURABLE VICTORY 13:40:55 but the xom message suggests i can see xom's hot smirking body 13:41:04 it's like a cheshire cat situation 13:43:02 -!- Bammboobies has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:44:21 -!- Bammboo has quit [Client Quit] 13:53:16 -!- haltingproblem has quit [Quit: haltingproblem] 13:53:33 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 13:58:16 -!- Kalir has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:06:35 -!- adelrune has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:08:04 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:11:23 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:11:37 -!- cait_ is now known as cait 14:12:14 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:14:09 -!- Kenran has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:14:51 -!- Kenran has joined ##crawl-dev 14:15:51 -!- GiantOwl is now known as Kalir 14:15:52 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 14:15:56 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:17:54 -!- haltingproblem has quit [Client Quit] 14:19:20 -!- chcl3 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:20:05 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:21:27 -!- jfcaron has quit [Quit: jfcaron] 14:24:22 -!- cait_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:25:01 -!- adelrune has joined ##crawl-dev 14:25:14 -!- Kalir has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:25:49 -!- Kalir|3 is now known as Kalir 14:25:50 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 14:26:45 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 14:27:01 -!- GiantOwl has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:31:18 !nick greatermummyoneshotters 14:31:18 Mapping greatermummyoneshotters => mikee jeanjacques elliptic nomi magicmarker loguno raskol minmay mibe 14:32:53 -!- dtsund has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:37:05 -!- Fernando-Basso has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 14:47:08 -!- bgiannan_ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:52:54 -!- vermi- is now known as vermifax 14:54:58 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 14:57:30 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 14:57:31 -!- chcl3 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:02:23 -!- haltingproblem has quit [Quit: haltingproblem] 15:02:43 does white drac breath still ignore ac 15:04:29 doubt it 15:04:59 oh, maybe it does? 15:05:57 yeah it does 15:06:01 wtf 15:07:24 %git 86cb59e4b 15:07:24 07wheals02 * 0.16-a0-1876-g86cb59e: Don't base behavior on beam names. 10(2 years, 1 month ago, 14 files, 246+ 225-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/86cb59e4bad0 15:07:46 hm? 15:08:00 was trying to figure out where the AC_NONE thing came from before that commit 15:08:03 found it eventually 15:08:09 sorry for the ping 15:09:21 %git fb18bd47a 15:09:21 07kilobyte02 * 0.11-a0-2389-gfb18bd4: Simplify and sanitize beam AC code, allow beams with proportional AC rule. 10(4 years, 5 months ago, 3 files, 64+ 52-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/fb18bd47a21d 15:10:23 yes that explains why i almost died to a white drac with 85 ac 15:10:48 found it 15:10:49 %git b45f3dca4 15:10:49 07N7829102 {due} * 0.8.0-a0-1967-gb45f3dc: Properly apply N78291's Draconian patch. 10(6 years ago, 22 files, 226+ 89-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b45f3dca40ce 15:11:07 which, i guess, is not a huge surprise 15:11:10 i know why it was added originally but i was told it was removed, by some liar 15:11:18 -!- SteelNeuron has joined ##crawl-dev 15:11:19 i honestly thought it was! 15:11:24 i'll do that now, that's dumb 15:11:42 also it still knocks back flying creatures which is wtf 15:11:44 @??white draconian 15:11:45 white draconian (00d) | Spd: 10 | HD: 14 | HP: 74-111 | AC/EV: 9/10 | Dam: 20 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, cold-blooded | Res: 06magic(40), 02cold | XP: 1228 | Sp: chilling breath (3d18) [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath] | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 15:14:11 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.20-a0-257-gcba8977: Make monster white drac breath check AC (minmay) 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/cba89770fa38 15:14:17 -!- THERetroGamerNY has quit [Quit: Be Blessed!] 15:14:20 duvessa: thought: could make it just knockback everyone (if it's interesting for it to knockback anyone) 15:15:40 -!- haltingproblem has quit [Quit: haltingproblem] 15:16:24 -!- Bammboobies has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:16:40 (it's not interesting for it to knockback anyone) 15:17:15 like if you think knockback is interesting somehow it's already on wind drakes and force lance, which are infinitely less surprising 15:17:31 -!- duvessa has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:19:16 i feel like the reasoning was, like 15:19:26 if you're flying, big impacts can knock you back 15:19:37 and then that was applied specifically to white dracs, because it was just one guy's patch 15:19:46 and then it was never generalized or removed and eventually ossified into deep crawl lore 15:21:34 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.20-a0-258-gf5ffb0e: Update Chilling Breath description 10(12 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f5ffb0e6d319 15:25:05 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 15:30:53 PleasingFungus: now that chilling breath checks AC, make freeze check AC 15:31:08 oh shit. a slippery slope... 15:31:43 slippery... with frost??? 15:34:41 -!- haltingproblem has quit [Quit: haltingproblem] 15:37:28 -!- Taraiph has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:39:10 -!- Bammboo has quit [Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client ( http://www.androirc.com )] 15:39:18 -!- Bammboobies is now known as Bammboo 15:39:59 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 15:43:31 I'm not touching the newer releases util they bring back the ability to eat poisonous chunks (so most likely never). That was the worst change in a sea of bad changes. 15:44:11 still not simplified enough, please remove more content 15:44:17 Still, I don't think any QoL changes helped pure casters and that's pretty much the only thing I play. Certainly not enough to offset shit like stasis and rmut being gone now. Add to that a slew of annoying little changes like ignite poison becoming way less useful and... ehh, I think I'll stay where I am. 15:45:00 -!- bgiannan has quit [Disconnected by services] 15:45:12 -!- bgiannan_ is now known as bgiannan 15:45:19 I was wondering the other day 15:45:25 -!- bgiannan_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:45:26 and this is a genuine question, not a veiled opinion 15:45:43 What was wrong with throwing bad potions? I understand that bottling corpses was bad for a variety of reasons 15:46:19 But I wasn't around for the discussion on what made the potion throwing bad on itself 15:48:22 lots of special case code to handle remote potion effects, I think 15:48:56 possibly a different core design would make it less problematic, but good luck redesigning crawl for that 15:49:04 -!- Fernando-Basso has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:49:34 -!- jfcaron has quit [Quit: jfcaron] 15:51:38 -!- aditya has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:53:38 -!- Patashu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:54:55 SteelNeuron: also, useless items should be useless 15:55:09 not 99% useless except for this one dumb trick so that you have to carry them around 15:55:44 -!- adelrune has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 15:56:04 the problem there is that dropping an item in crawl is rarely a real sacrifice, since time doesn't matter and you can always travel back to earlier levels. brogue has a tighter inventory and a much tighter clock, so weird situational item interactions make a lot more sense 15:56:56 %git 54df5be6b9d9bdd40a116d0b4ddd192871e8adb2 15:56:56 07MarvinPA02 * 0.12-a0-128-g54df5be: Remove Evaporate and Fulsome Distillation, and the book of Stalking 10(4 years, 3 months ago, 26 files, 53+ 598-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/54df5be6b9d9 16:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:01:24 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:01:25 -!- Kenran has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:04:29 ontoclasm: i feel like if you can throw potions of confusion they're not 99% useless, they're actually a highly useful consumable, so that doesn't really apply 16:05:09 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:05:32 -!- smips has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:06:13 amalloy: well, i meant in the sense that if you -don't- know evaporate 16:06:33 you -still- have to collect all the confusion potions, because what if maybe in the future you do learn it? 16:06:43 ^f 16:07:14 and if you do know evaporate, then you now have a super-common consumable that does something extremely powerful for no cost 16:07:31 (because you can manufacture them with FD) 16:07:35 likr 16:07:46 a consumable that is a confusion grenade is fine 16:08:41 the problem was that, if and on ly if you knew these two spells, you could pull infinite numbers of free confusion grenades out of corpses 16:08:56 not to mention miasma grenades 16:09:23 ontoclasm: SteelNeuron's question began with "if distill didn't exist," 16:09:26 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.20-a0-258-gf5ffb0e (34) 16:09:56 my vague feeling is that, at the time, evaporate & distill were considered a linked pair, and not much thought was put into removing one but not the other 16:10:02 but you'd have to ask MarvinPA or someone else who was around at the time 16:10:14 evaporate without distill is just a spell that lets you use a consumable 16:10:23 which i mean... i guess? 16:10:46 it's not dysfunctional the way distill was but it's still weird 16:10:49 -!- kdrnic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:10:54 if you want confusion grenades, make confusion grenades 16:11:05 we were talking about "potion throwing", which is actually a thing i think i tried to do as a new player 16:11:17 i understand 16:11:36 if you want the confusion grenades to be called "potion of confusion" that's fine too 16:11:52 i wonder if it'd be more interesting if an evaporate spell turned good potions into damage effects 16:11:54 but why does there need to be a spell gating the use of this one consumable 16:11:55 hard to balance 16:12:12 like, turn curing into steam, turn heal wounds into, idk, negative energy 16:12:12 -!- adelrune has joined ##crawl-dev 16:12:50 agreed, having a spell to control the effect is silly, and paired with another spell to generate unlimited ammo even worse, but the effect itself doesn't seem that bad 16:14:10 well sure 16:14:14 the effect is Mephitic Cloud 16:14:26 except when it's super corpse rot 64 16:14:27 mephitic cloud the consumable is fine 16:14:42 i guess i've lost track of what we're discussing 16:14:44 ...super corpse rot the consumable strikes me as pretty broken 16:14:55 degeneration potion still exists :)_ 16:15:51 -!- sneakyness has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:17:36 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 16:17:36 exactly 1k responses 16:17:40 for en 16:17:48 we should have announced a raffle 16:18:04 i could give them the special surprise i promised for the lava snake corpse pic 16:18:40 chequers: nice! Do you know about jp/kr? 16:18:40 dpeg: You have 3 messages. Use !messages to read them. 16:19:19 chequers: also, are the old replies from before tournament still in the database? (I.e. do I have to fill the form again?) 16:19:31 -!- Ge0ff has quit [Client Quit] 16:22:25 iirc chequers said at the time that he was going to toss those out 16:22:30 after i filled it in 16:22:34 then he complained about my responses 16:22:41 some people are just too picky. 16:23:31 PleasingFungus: didn't you give the correct answers? I thought we had that settled, PF! 16:23:57 dpeg: you see this is the problem with over eager self-selecting beta testers 16:23:58 I decided to mix things up. Instead of giving the right answers, I gave the wrong ones, instead. 16:24:06 !lg . x=${tdam/mhp} 16:24:07 1940. [tdam/mhp=0] chequers the Severer (L11 HONe of Kikubaaqudgha), blasted by an electric eel (bolt of electricity) on Lair:1 on 2016-12-01 06:31:39, with 11283 points after 24626 turns and 0:40:16. 16:24:16 why doesn't this work ^ 16:25:03 chequers: last survey had 3.5k responses, IIRC. This time you will have more :) 16:25:48 the rate is slowing, so i am not sure 16:26:05 the online/offline split is still 60/40, which suggests there's still a large untapped offline audience 16:27:14 chequers: someone should repeatedly mention the survey on various forums 16:27:26 guess I can do it on SA 16:27:55 reddit is taken caren of, and someone else has to do tavern... I am sure there are plenty of other places 16:29:01 !lg chequers x=${tdam*1.0/mhp} 16:29:01 1940. [tdam*1.0/mhp=0.14] chequers the Severer (L11 HONe of Kikubaaqudgha), blasted by an electric eel (bolt of electricity) on Lair:1 on 2016-12-01 06:31:39, with 11283 points after 24626 turns and 0:40:16. 16:29:12 you've used too much python :) 16:31:24 -!- sneakyness has joined ##crawl-dev 16:40:25 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 16:44:59 -!- Kranix has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 16:46:17 -!- bgiannan has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:46:31 -!- SteelNeuron has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:47:29 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:50:23 the last survey also ran for nearly a year 16:50:28 this one has been open for.. a week? 16:50:31 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 16:51:31 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 16:53:03 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 16:54:27 Brannock: yeah, that's why I am confident the turnout will be bigger this time (even if it only runs for half a year. 16:55:51 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 17:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:05:36 -!- werevolvo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:10:06 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 17:12:32 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 17:12:42 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 17:35:28 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:35:41 -!- Quilel has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 17:37:46 -!- Tarara has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:40:25 -!- kdrnic has joined ##crawl-dev 17:44:37 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:45:12 There is a tavern thread about TSO divine SH not being coloured blue anymore. Is this true/known/fixed? 17:45:36 -!- adelrune has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:47:21 haven't heard about it 17:47:38 it's blue locally 17:47:39 just tried it, still blue 17:47:50 could it be a webtiles issue? 17:48:02 alternately, console colour issue 17:48:07 which seems more likely 17:50:43 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 17:52:32 -!- LexAckson__ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:57:35 -!- scummos__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:01:09 PleasingFungus: alright, so I assume it'll get sorted with time. 18:01:37 i mean, we can't reproduce it 18:01:39 so i'd want more info 18:01:44 otherwise nothing's gonna happen with it 18:04:36 -!- jfcaron has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:04:45 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.20-a0-258-gf5ffb0e (34) 18:06:49 !lg removeelyvilon x=tiles 18:06:50 812. [tiles=true] removeelyvilon the Stinger (L4 DrTm of Uskayaw), mangled by Crazy Yiuf (a +4 quarterstaff of chaos) on D:2 on 2016-12-01 20:13:00, with 114 points after 2869 turns and 0:05:02. 18:07:12 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 18:07:13 %git 8ce114c4a87bc4fd1c3d9135a32617f6eeb77e24 18:07:13 07MarvinPA02 * 0.19-a0-1678-g8ce114c: Update webtiles HUD highlighting (#10695) 10(10 weeks ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8ce114c4a87b 18:10:33 didn't have time to play at all since tournament :( 18:13:53 dpeg: my single tournament game is still going 18:14:16 !lm . x=cv 18:14:18 7720. [2016-12-01 08:18:27] [cv=0.19] amalloy the Fencer (L21 FoCj of Fedhas) found a decaying rune of Zot on turn 60804. (Swamp:4) 18:14:19 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 18:20:38 amalloy: planting seeds methodically, one by one? :) 18:21:47 -!- Smello has quit [Quit: Bye!] 18:23:40 -!- haltingproblem has quit [Quit: haltingproblem] 18:27:17 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:28:13 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 18:29:43 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:30:36 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 18:43:13 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:44:57 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:45:45 !lg * kmap~~ancient_temple -tv:<2:channel=at 18:45:46 287. firemonkey, XL14 DsGl, T:21332 requested for at: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 18:46:09 oh my 18:46:16 those new console options with footv 18:47:07 johnny0: you mentioned to me how ttyrec is in fact interacting with the new console options you made, did you have a suggestion for how we can fix that? 18:48:13 !lg . -tv 18:48:14 235. johnstein, XL27 MfSk, T:123473 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 18:48:41 haha 18:48:48 this is actually a dream sheep kill 18:48:55 Brannock: thanks for the free map kills 18:49:10 Brannock: you should watch that TV I queued up 18:49:19 although you've probably watched a lot of TVs like this already 18:49:20 watchin 18:49:33 but the Brannock-PleasingFungus(-gammafunk) synergy 18:49:41 oh it's dead 18:49:46 !lg * kmap~~ancient_temple -tv:<2:channel=at 18:49:47 287. firemonkey, XL14 DsGl, T:21332 requested for at: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 18:49:52 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/tileweb.cc#L644-L649 18:49:54 choose the at channel 18:49:58 yeah it was idle 18:49:59 I had to re-request it 18:50:02 PleasingFungus: check out that link and the mpa commit 18:50:37 dream sheep recently taught me that sleep multiplies damage received 18:50:57 yeah, that's a thing you want to remember! 18:51:04 i don't know that there's any way the player is supposed to know that ahead of time 18:51:10 even ?/Tsleep doesn't tell you 18:51:17 oh, it should! 18:51:17 it probably should 18:51:25 not that i ever read it 18:51:47 back when I first introduced dream sheep I was considering reducing sleep damage multiplier from 2.5x to 2x, but then they seemed to stabilize and no one complains about them much 18:51:50 wow the selective butchering 18:52:06 Brannock: i got hit by a komodo dragon for like...70 damage? 18:52:22 there's one guy who really hates dream sheep because he got killed by mighted Donald in Shoals after being put to sleep 18:52:26 @??komodo dragon 18:52:26 komodo dragon (04l) | Spd: 10 (swim: 60%) | HD: 8 | HP: 33-52 | AC/EV: 7/8 | Dam: 34 | amphibious, cold-blooded | Res: 06magic(40), 12drown | XP: 360 | Sz: Large | Int: animal. 18:52:29 <|amethyst> only melee damage, right? 18:52:30 he took 95~? damage 18:52:31 yeah 18:52:37 it doesn't multiply ranged, and sleep doesn't reduce your defenses 18:52:49 !lg * status~~sleep 18:52:51 25. Tux the Zephyrmancer (L13 TeAE of Vehumet), slain by a dream sheep on Lair:5 (lab_entry_generic) on 2016-11-30 20:43:22, with 22502 points after 17387 turns and 1:21:03. 18:53:01 still only one official kill-while-slept 18:53:04 <|amethyst> hm 18:53:13 anyhow that player was playing carefully right up until they decided to let all the sheep be in LOS 18:53:18 haha, yeah 18:53:34 I think one thing about dream sheep sleep is that players just assume it's beam-based and/or checks MR 18:53:44 they are assuming something, at least 18:54:08 !lg * recent max=dam x=dam,status 18:54:10 981166. [dam=164;status=confused,mighty,resistant,petrified,protected from physical damage,constricted,repel missiles,drained] FlamingLnfernal the Hoplite (L21 MiGl of Qazlal), blasted by ObaWulf's ghost (Shatter) on Vaults:5 (vaults_vault) on 2016-10-29 08:01:23, with 397700 points after 44254 turns and 2:30:29. 18:54:12 since it's not a spell they can only glean how it works from the monster description, I uess? 18:54:17 *guess 18:54:20 no, it's a spell 18:54:25 oh 18:54:30 that's good then 18:54:49 %git 42bdecdf9 18:54:49 07Brannock02 {amalloy} * 0.19-a0-1286-g42bdecd: Make dream dust a proper monspell 10(3 months ago, 7 files, 114+ 125-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/42bdecdf9f6d 18:55:04 that one took some creativity 18:55:08 <|amethyst> The spell description is not exactly clear about it 18:55:10 I should probably do the same for starcursed screaming 18:55:19 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 18:55:21 <|amethyst> "Overwhelms the target with soporific dream dust, putting them to sleep. Additional dream sheep will increase the strength and duration of this effect." 18:55:21 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:55:22 yeah, better wording would help 18:55:23 but that one's trickier to do as a monspell since there's a shared cooldown 18:55:44 for starcursed masses? 18:55:46 yeah 18:55:49 didn't even realize that had a cooldown 18:56:03 and I'm guessing there's no status they get during this cooldown 18:56:08 right 18:56:11 -!- mibe has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:56:16 mon-abil.cc is a dark and shadowy place 18:56:23 though ti's gotten much brighter in the past year or so 18:56:35 there is _nothing_ wrong with monster AI or spells 18:56:45 ...and beam.cc is a masterpiece... 18:57:18 monster spells are a lot better since Grunt did that slot rework, and the description stuff is also way better 18:57:52 btf, for this teleporter rework thing I keep talking about but haven't actually done but totally am doing (I'll show you all) 18:58:40 my current thought is that the teleporter will require use of > or < (accepting either), take a normal turn to use, and will swap any monster at the destination with the player 18:58:49 gammafunk: i need to try searching the ##crawl-dev logs again, i wasn't able to find the conversation about the webtiles pty i was thinking of 18:59:24 johnny0: yeah, you can enter your name as a filter, it should find it, since you don't talk all that much (compared to, say, myself) :) 18:59:42 re the teleporter, it will not allow monsters (whether hostile or allied/neutral) to do the swap behaviour 18:59:57 and any allies will autotravel with you like how they do for stairs 19:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:00:08 the idea being they should behave like stairs as much as possible 19:00:27 so no "mysterious monster blocking use of the portal", just like you'd never be blocked by a monster when taking stairs 19:00:34 and allies will travel with you through the teleporter 19:00:46 <|amethyst> hm 19:01:05 |amethyst brought up how if it works with autotravel we might need to have them place hatches, but I'm hoping to avoid this 19:01:06 <|amethyst> most allies don't follow you across stairs 19:01:17 |amethyst: yeah, but this is within-level 19:01:29 I guess you could extend those rules 19:01:39 to these as well, which I wouldn't have a problem with 19:01:45 but for perma-allies they deffo should 19:01:57 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 19:02:13 gammafunk: ahh good idea -- i'm worried i was a silent party in the conversation i'm thinking of, but i'll try out that search 19:02:37 johnny0: you were the one who noticed that footv was doing this at first, so yeah I think you should show up 19:05:40 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 19:14:16 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:17:19 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 19:17:56 -!- Pacra_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:19:01 -!- jeefus has joined ##crawl-dev 19:20:44 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Quit: MaxFrost] 19:22:44 -!- jefus- has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:30:05 -!- FunkyGnoll has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:35:15 -!- Alcopop has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:42:50 -!- Jafet has quit [Quit: Jafet] 19:48:43 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 19:59:00 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 20:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:01:54 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.20-a0-259-gc929cd2: Fix webtiles Divine Shield highlight (johnny0) 10(47 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c929cd22f6b1 20:03:45 PleasingFungus: yay 20:05:41 -!- hellmonk has joined ##crawl-dev 20:05:48 thank johnny0, he did all the legwork 20:08:55 johnny0: thanks for the legs! 20:26:37 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:32:07 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 20:33:10 .gfgk -tv 20:33:11 128. DunwichHorror, XL24 HOFi, T:77206 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 20:33:27 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 20:33:39 johnny0: failed to fetch url? 20:33:46 .gfgk !cpo -tv 20:33:47 123. ololoev, XL25 DEEE, T:28239 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 20:34:04 ooh, that's nice! 20:34:30 looks like my terminal <3 20:34:41 only thing missing is the special wall glyphs 20:35:38 -!- Harudoku has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:35:39 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 20:39:53 -!- DevlanMud has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:41:09 -!- kdrnic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:52:37 -!- haltingproblem has quit [Quit: haltingproblem] 20:53:50 gammafunk: https://github.com/greensnark/dcss_tv/blob/master/CSplat/Ttyrec.pm#L430 21:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:05:26 -!- _Jordan_ has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 21:08:34 -!- HarryHood has joined ##crawl-dev 21:09:17 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.20-a0-259-gc929cd2 (34) 21:10:20 johnny0: I see, although you could just not do the wall substitutions 21:10:46 I guess this is done so there's a common reference for glyphs? 21:19:45 i think that and to be friendly to fonts without block elements and the like 21:20:49 anyway, the link is just like the shalott tv link, only with 256-color support 21:21:11 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 21:27:26 -!- anubisbafoobis has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:28:46 oh, font support is also a thing I guess 21:30:52 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 21:31:19 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 21:32:21 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:41:00 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 21:46:07 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:48:54 -!- HarryHood has quit [Quit: Bye] 21:50:46 -!- qguv has quit [Excess Flood] 21:51:06 -!- gressup_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:52:50 do the korean servers not have ttyrecs? 21:53:28 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:53:35 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 21:57:41 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:58:17 -!- jfcaron has quit [Quit: jfcaron] 21:58:27 !lg * cwz -ttyrec 21:58:27 521790. frostgod, XL1 MuCj, T:90: Can't find ttyrec 22:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:01:49 -!- haltingproblem has quit [Quit: haltingproblem] 22:15:52 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:23:15 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 22:23:51 -!- stonar has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:25:45 -!- dtsund has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:27:59 -!- aditya has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:31:30 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Client Quit] 22:36:06 -!- elmdor has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:39:20 All this change talk is making me glad I only play 0.12.2. Then again I'm a weirdo who likes e.g. brown chunks. 22:39:58 is this the SA thread 22:40:03 or the reddit thread 22:40:04 possible 22:40:43 also, why is zap-data inconsistent about using dicedef vs calcdice 22:40:57 mostly monsters versus players 22:41:03 i think one of those is only used by monsters 22:41:04 IMB and dazzling spray for example use calcdice 22:41:15 but throw flame, magic dart, and a buch of other spells use dicedef 22:41:17 this is for player damage 22:41:20 hrm 22:41:25 to cause confusion and bugs 22:41:28 lol 22:42:31 someone could try to standardize, but that would 100% certainly cause new bugs 22:42:43 haha 22:43:08 but yes this confusion has led to the wiki stating that dazzling spray does 22:43:10 2d20 damage 22:43:16 when it actually does 2d10 22:43:35 well, before it got nerfed to 2d9 22:43:40 lol 22:44:10 someone on reddit gave oghu as an example of a background with a frustrating start 22:44:21 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:44:31 ...if you try to kill literally everything with large rocks...? 22:44:41 what thread are you guys reading 22:45:14 probably this one: https://www.reddit.com/r/dcss/comments/5fn0yr/new_player_how_i_got_addicted_to_the_game_but_now/ 22:45:22 no, I'm reading the survey thread 22:45:27 another gem: "Food is completely necessary for this type of game that's so magic heavy. Without food, so many spell penalties would be minimal. Though I agree it could be reeled back a little bit" 22:45:30 also, paging minmay to https://www.reddit.com/r/dcss/comments/5fklp1/question_evade_vs_protection/ . i'm very leery of basically every response to that one 22:45:42 hmm, can't find the reference to oghu 22:46:08 -!- nikheizen has joined ##crawl-dev 22:47:27 its a response to watwork's comment about the earlygame being tedious 22:48:43 The reason MiBe is recommend for new players is Trog has the strongest super early game, and oka has the better mid game. 22:48:55 I like that one too 22:49:03 where's drke's meme tier list when you need it 22:49:21 well I guess oka is stronger once you're 14 runes in and casting ddoor with oka 22:49:28 can't do that with trog 22:49:34 -!- haltingproblem has quit [Quit: haltingproblem] 22:50:33 lol 22:54:37 hellmonk: you can do that with trog 22:54:44 just expect loss of god abilities 22:54:47 lol 22:54:57 not going to lie 22:55:16 CanOfWorms: bit hard to train your necro high enough... 22:55:25 I actually tried learning some spells on trogite once just to see how they'd react 22:55:27 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 22:55:45 I didn't realize memorizing a spell would put me in penance 22:55:46 lol 22:55:56 survived it though!!! 22:56:45 -!- chcl3 has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 23:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:07:09 -!- DevlanMud has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:12:48 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 23:14:09 -!- Xiberia has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 23:21:13 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 23:24:02 minmay: I got your damn the_grid vault and I can't get into the other grids 23:24:12 it's all transparent stone 23:24:41 fix it!!!! 23:25:45 wait it's actually cut off? that shouldn't happen 23:26:10 PleasingFungus: yes everything on reddit is terrible 23:26:11 minmay: spectate me on cbro 23:26:30 CanOfWorms is saying the top-right grid is messing it up 23:26:35 left 23:26:35 hm 23:26:36 top left 23:26:40 the vault that got placed 23:26:41 er top left 23:26:42 yes, that one doesn't follow the rules I laid out 23:26:44 is blocked the doors 23:26:49 *blocking 23:26:57 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:27:12 oh actually I guess this one is my fault 23:27:17 it's minmay_the_grid_zigzag_pyramid 23:27:38 -!- Wolpertinger has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:28:27 the specific problem is the "spiral" versions of the main vaults 23:29:02 they were added as an afterthought without regard to the fact that they would produce islands 23:29:56 yeah, if you can submit an updated vault, I can merge it later 23:30:01 AFTER my now-ruined game finishes 23:30:52 just get lrd and deconstruct it out you big baby 23:31:49 it does appear that zigzag_pyramid is the only subvault that actually causes this to happen, however 23:32:19 so if you just replace the ' ' in the top row of that vault with a '.' everything will work fine again 23:33:21 http://pastebin.com/G5kqM4D3 literally a one character change 23:34:13 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 23:37:20 minmay: rip... 23:39:09 -!- _Jordan_ has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 23:45:20 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:45:30 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 23:48:03 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:48:30 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev