00:00:10 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:03:31 Here: Bai Suzhen the spectral storm dragon (friendly, umbra, disembodied soul) 00:03:45 should you get bai suzhen as a storm dragon or as a draconian? 00:04:18 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.20-a0-222-gb69ddcd (34) 00:04:49 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:09:58 isn't the conceit/story that the storm dragon is her natural form? 00:12:45 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:13:16 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 00:13:19 -!- destroythecore has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:13:35 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:13:48 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 00:17:22 -!- valrus has quit [Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. 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ZZZzzz…] 00:52:28 geekosaur, what do you think my natural form is 00:52:53 elf spittle? 00:56:58 -!- CrawlWall has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:58:13 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 00:58:37 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:59:42 -!- Lasty has quit [Client Quit] 01:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:01:08 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 01:02:10 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:02:52 -!- Lasty has quit [Client Quit] 01:04:15 is there a way to !lg games in orbrun? 01:04:37 in orbrun? 01:04:42 lg is for completed games 01:04:49 so it depends on what you mean by that 01:04:58 games that ended without a win where the player had the orb? 01:05:17 !lm * orb !won 01:05:23 1884. [2016-11-29 02:36:05] quayzong the Cryomancer (L27 DrSu of Ashenzari) found the Orb of Zot! (Zot:5) 01:05:29 and then you can get the gid from that 01:05:32 !lm * orb !won x=gid 01:05:33 1884. [2016-11-29 02:36:05] [game_key=quayzong:cjr:20161027002954S] quayzong the Cryomancer (L27 DrSu of Ashenzari) found the Orb of Zot! (Zot:5) 01:06:05 !lm * orb !won x=gid fmt:"$x[0]" 01:06:07 quayzong:cjr:20161027002954S 01:06:14 !lg * gid=$(!lm * orb !won x=gid fmt:"$x[0]") 01:06:16 1. quayzong the Cryomancer (L27 DrSu of Ashenzari), slain by Fede the pandemonium lord on Zot:4 on 2016-11-29 02:39:30, with 764268 points after 109594 turns and 11:57:20. 01:07:11 if you want a list, just use !lm * orb and possibly s=gid 01:07:16 yeah, i was wondering how many orb runs failed 01:07:27 !lm * orb recentish / !won 01:07:27 i guess i can do it with lm 01:07:28 645/16388 milestones for * (orb recentish): N=645/16388 (3.94%) 01:07:52 why don't the games show 'orb' in status? 01:09:51 -!- bgiannan_ is now known as bgiannan 01:11:27 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 01:13:25 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:14:27 -!- flibbers has joined ##crawl-dev 01:15:42 -!- _Jordan_ has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 01:15:50 hi folks, I found a thread where this linux error: "crawl : Depends: libstdc++6" caused gammafunk to write "Sorry about that! I built the packages relative to utopic instead of trusty (apparently forgot the lesson learned when releasing 0.16.0). The 0.16.2 packages have been rebuilt relative to trusty and reuploaded to the repository" 01:16:11 it's happening again - do packages need to be rebuilt relative to trusty? 01:20:20 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:20:27 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 01:21:25 flibbers: you might !tell gammafunk that 01:21:34 since i dunno if he's around 01:21:39 ok thanks 01:22:43 !tell gammafunk Hello. I found a thread where this linux error: "crawl : Depends: libstdc++6" caused you to write "Sorry about that! I built the packages relative to utopic instead of trusty (apparently forgot the lesson learned when releasing 0.16.0). The 0.16.2 packages have been rebuilt relative to trusty and reuploaded to the repository" 01:22:43 flibbers: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 01:22:57 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:23:01 !tell gammafunk it's happening again. Do packages need to be rebuilt relative to trusty? 01:23:01 flibbers: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 01:24:08 -!- jfcaron has quit [Quit: jfcaron] 01:24:10 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:32:51 03regret-index02 07* 0.20-a0-223-g066d66b: Nerf ushabti miasma spam, fix up tomb fodder sets again 10(3 minutes ago, 2 files, 10+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/066d66bcbfdf 01:36:19 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 01:45:25 -!- asdu has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:51:48 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:52:11 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 01:53:38 -!- notme has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:59:02 -!- twelwe has joined ##crawl-dev 01:59:04 yes.... i made it 01:59:24 reward me with good chat vibes, dev channel 02:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:01:30 flibbers: no, it didn't happen again, I've built the packages relative to the current debian stable 02:01:30 gammafunk: You have 3 messages. Use !messages to read them. 02:01:41 so it was intentional 02:02:09 -!- WalrusKing has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:03:05 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 02:03:06 !read gammafunk message 02:03:09 this means that if you have a pretty old system without that recent of libstdc++6, you'll need to either compile yourself ormake packages yourself 02:03:30 probably just compiling yourself is easiest; it's pretty easy to compile crawl on linux 02:04:46 or you could upgrade your system! 02:08:45 it isn`t that easy 02:09:19 yes! 02:09:20 do it 02:09:28 throw the acer away 02:10:18 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.20-a0-223-g066d66b (34) 02:10:40 gammafunk, thanks for the reply. I'm running fully updated linux mint 0.17 (long-term support edition, supported until 2019). I was able to update to DCSS 0.18 without any problems, but 0.19 gave me that error. 02:11:01 hrm, which libstdc++6 do you have installed? 02:12:04 one day, real soon, i`m gonna get the rig booted again and play all my favorite games!!!!!! 02:12:54 i`m gonna play spelunky and assassin creed and bcadren`s dungeon swim: fish soup 02:12:57 flibbers: I think this is the same OS you ran back when that problem happened before, it's just that we've finally moved to building based on the current debian stable 02:13:32 flibbers: I couldn't get packages to build on the previous debian stable, so I was using ubuntu as a base, but the current debian stable has been out for quite some time now 02:13:49 libstdc++6:amd64/trusty-security 4.8.4-2ubuntu1~14.04.3 uptodate 02:14:27 thanks for looking at this, gammafunk 02:15:07 flibbers: yeah, so what's happened is that your OS is just a bit too old for us to support 02:15:10 gammafunk: the previous thread was found from a google search, I've never had this happen before, 02:15:43 flibbers: 0.18 was build from ubuntu I think, so with 0.19 we've finally made the switch 02:15:52 a bit too old... wtf is with ppl and old op systems 02:15:59 your libstdc++6 is basically just a bit too old for our package 02:16:10 and I'm not going to go back to making the packages based on ubuntu 14 02:16:15 upgrade already brother original 02:16:21 that's too bad, this is the current stable long-term-support version of linux mint :( 02:16:42 flibbers: long-term-support means that linux mint people support your packages 02:16:47 linax? try a windows 02:16:58 it doesn't mean that upstream people's package support that system for as long as linux mint says 02:17:06 ok, thanks 02:17:07 any package you install from linux mint will be supported, of course 02:17:24 I'll have to reinstall then 02:17:33 or only play online 02:17:44 well you can compile crawl pretty easilly 02:18:01 gammafunk when i ditch the acer there will be a swell mic to co-host your streams in a hostile takeover 02:18:20 I have a small HDD with the operating systme on it, so it takes a few extra steps to figure out how to make the git cache go onto an external drive 02:18:38 er, git repository, whatever it's called 02:18:58 I'll figure it out some time 02:19:08 yeah, let us know if you need help with compiling 02:19:20 you can also force-upgrade that libstdc++6 package 02:19:36 not sure what that might do to your system though 02:20:07 *shudder* 02:20:29 well have rap battles 02:21:33 you don't have my secret stream techniques 02:21:34 -!- tksquared_ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 02:21:37 and search optimizations 02:21:50 you can't compete with professionals 02:23:49 -!- toalpaz has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:25:16 -!- flibbers has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:25:25 i`m gonna come up with some right now. i`ll hbe back, ha ha ha......... 02:25:32 -!- twelwe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:29:57 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:32:35 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 02:32:54 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: leaving] 02:34:20 -!- Lasty has quit [Client Quit] 02:39:57 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 02:46:19 -!- Patashu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:55:15 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:59:28 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:10:21 -!- aegolden has joined ##crawl-dev 03:10:41 Experimental (councilgod-PR) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.20-a0-240-ge06127d 03:16:11 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.20-a0-223-g066d66b (34) 03:16:47 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:17:56 fr: high level octopodes can “masquarade as scenery” (no movement, stealth level = 27, none of the lignification resistances, but you can still blink and teleport). It would be good flavor since octopi in the wild are fantastically good at doing that. Gameplay-wise, octopodes are insanely squishy already and could use an extra survival trick or two. 03:20:22 -!- Suga_H has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:22:20 on a more serious note, I’ve got PRs up (https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/415 and https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/414) that address these two issues: https://github.com/crawl/crawl/issues/391 and https://github.com/crawl/crawl/issues/412. 03:29:22 -!- cosmonaut has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:31:04 v evokes whatever you're wielding, or acts as V if you're wielding nothing 03:31:11 so in the old days of wielding decks, v evoked them 03:32:06 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 03:34:41 -!- protopulse has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:35:02 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:38:00 amalloy: yes, the bug was just related to the tool tip text if I understand correctly. 03:38:28 you said you "noticed that you cannot use v to evoke decks as you could on .18" 03:38:29 like, actually left clicking the deck in inventory did evoke, not attempt (and fail) to wield. 03:38:39 oh, that's not your issue 03:38:47 they're your PRs 03:38:50 yes 03:39:00 i was answering a question from one of the issues 03:39:05 oh yea 03:41:28 03aegolden02 07* 0.20-a0-215-gc881eda: Remove special case for tiles tool tip for cards (fixes #391) 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 0+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c881eda5b100 03:41:28 03amalloy02 {GitHub} 07* 0.20-a0-225-g410101a: Merge pull request #415 from aegolden/FixCardToolTip 10(6 seconds ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/410101a4ab1e 03:44:27 amalloy: thanks! 04:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:01:58 -!- aditya has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 04:07:22 -!- FunkyBomb has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 04:07:59 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:09:31 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.20-a0-225-g410101a (34) 04:10:30 -!- bug_sniper has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 04:14:26 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 04:16:09 -!- Lasty has quit [Client Quit] 04:19:07 !lg * kmap~~ancient_temple s=cikiller% 04:19:08 283 games for * (kmap~~ancient_temple): 68x a hydra (24.03%), 39x a dire elephant (13.78%), 36x a komodo dragon (12.72%), 27x a rime drake (9.54%), 25x a wind drake (8.83%), 16x a manticore (5.65%), 14x a sea snake (4.95%), 11x a spiny frog (3.89%), 11x a harpy (3.89%), 9x an elephant (3.18%), 7x a wyvern (2.47%), 6x a polar bear (2.12%), 6x a hornet (2.12%), 3x a wasp (1.06%), 2x a griffon (0.71%... 04:24:08 -!- DrKe has joined ##crawl-dev 04:24:11 -!- Ge0ff has quit [Client Quit] 04:31:53 -!- Brannock_ has joined ##crawl-dev 04:34:17 -!- Brannock has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:53:13 -!- johlstei__ has joined ##crawl-dev 04:54:39 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 04:56:30 -!- johlstei_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:59:33 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:07:23 -!- SteelNeuron has joined ##crawl-dev 05:07:37 !messages 05:07:38 No messages for SteelNeuron. 05:13:46 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:14:23 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 05:23:20 -!- aegolden has quit [Quit: aegolden] 05:41:25 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 05:45:07 -!- Lasty has quit [Client Quit] 05:46:17 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:50:35 03MarvinPA02 07[nemelex_wrath] * 0.20-a0-224-gcd07209: Update Nemelex wrath description 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 13+ 13-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/cd07209ba8dd 06:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:08:47 -!- Tungsten has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:41:17 hm 06:41:44 can you actually trigger a blade trap that has been already revealed? I'm moving over one repeteadly and I only get the "blade swings past you" message, even though I have almost no EV 06:42:24 -!- _Jordan_ has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 06:42:55 nevermind, I should look at the code before asking questions ;) 06:45:06 <|amethyst> random2limit is weird 06:47:42 <|amethyst> but with even 5 or 6 evasion you're likely to avoid the trap most of the time 06:48:06 <|amethyst> s/most/almost all/ 06:49:37 I see 06:49:44 It's fine though, suits what I need 06:50:17 <|amethyst> hm, and of course the formula for monster evasion is completely different 06:56:36 -!- Patashu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 07:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:18:16 03PabloMansanet02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/413 * 0.20-a0-241-g4efeeb1: message tweaks and feedback link 10(70 minutes ago, 3 files, 6+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4efeeb178537 07:18:16 03PabloMansanet02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/413 * 0.20-a0-242-g94230bd: Ieoh Jian wrath 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 84+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/94230bdaeeb1 07:18:18 Having a Pain branded weapon in inventory should enable Necromancy skill for training availability. 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10833 by Implojin 07:19:02 -!- jeefus has joined ##crawl-dev 07:22:09 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 07:22:36 -!- jefus has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 07:27:53 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:59:11 03gammafunk02 07* 0.20-a0-226-gc242636: Don't down-weight a vault and make most of its monsters non-patrolling 10(58 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c242636bd148 08:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:09:17 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.20-a0-226-gc242636 (34) 08:09:33 03PabloMansanet02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/413 * 0.20-a0-243-gad5a720: Fix Singing Sword crash and use animated weapon marker for combat active weapons 10(3 minutes ago, 4 files, 7+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ad5a720e410f 08:16:20 -!- Yermak has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:27:12 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 08:32:54 -!- ontoclasm1 has joined ##crawl-dev 08:36:12 -!- WalrusKing has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:43:28 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:45:49 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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(master - c242636 #7297 : gammafunk): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/179752405 08:49:45 -!- 32NAAPB19 has left ##crawl-dev 08:50:17 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:02:33 -!- haltingproblem has quit [Quit: haltingproblem] 09:04:28 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:08:29 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:09:38 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 09:10:17 -!- ontoclasm1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:16:58 -!- Cryp71c_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:19:57 -!- adelrune has joined ##crawl-dev 09:20:17 -!- Zxpr1jk has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 09:26:42 -!- jfcaron has quit [Quit: jfcaron] 09:30:53 -!- toalpaz has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:39:15 -!- Patashu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:39:31 -!- chcl3 has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 09:45:42 -!- haltingproblem has quit [Quit: haltingproblem] 09:46:32 -!- dtsund has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:57:01 -!- Lasty_ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:04:42 -!- bencryption has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:15:12 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.20-a0-227-g7ac7cdc: Fix vault warden description (#10816) 10(66 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7ac7cdc2490b 10:18:25 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 10:23:34 -!- aegolden has joined ##crawl-dev 10:24:27 in what range does tension move? What amount of tension would be "high tension"? 10:24:29 ??tension 10:24:29 tension[1/3]: dangerousness of everything in LOS, checks # of monsters, monster experience value, monster hp (almost-dead monsters are of little threat), monster enchantments (confusion, haste, berserk, might, etc.), player current hp, whether you're in the abyss (*3/2 tension) 10:25:26 !messages 10:25:27 No messages for aegolden. 10:27:51 -!- Reverie has joined ##crawl-dev 10:30:58 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 10:38:17 -!- wheals_ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:39:59 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:43:04 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 10:43:07 steelneuron: what are you trying to use tension for? 10:43:48 To modulate wrath and divine help based on how dangerous the situation is 10:44:15 I need a ballpark estimate of the scale :) 10:44:35 judging by similar effects to what I want to do, it seems to range between 0 and 25-30 10:44:39 why do you think it's capped? 10:45:16 Well, I didn't assume it was capped but I imagine someone must've made the decision "at tension X, this is a high tension situation" that I can reuse 10:45:31 check xom.cc 10:45:54 alternately, the demonic guardian mutation (in, i believe, mutation.cc?) 10:46:14 thanks! I'll read the demonic mutation. xom.cc is where I got the 0-25 range from :) 10:52:40 -!- valrus_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:53:55 currently chei wrath uses tension and it's not good, not sure i would recommend using it for other wraths 10:54:39 could be that it's just chei in particular that's badly implemented though, but either way that is a thing to look at for what not to do i guess 10:54:58 -!- Concrocotta has quit [Quit: Ciao] 10:56:00 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: magistern] 10:56:01 tension isn't a mechanic that anyone really understands or maintains 10:57:00 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.6] 10:58:57 -!- Zekka_ has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 11:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:02:13 -!- panicbit2 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:03:46 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:05:51 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 11:05:52 The build passed. 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You only get this kind of help if you're in a really bad spot 14:37:51 MarvinPA: I don't mind it being too precise, I just want to prevent it happening in trivial combat scenarios :) 14:38:11 03PabloMansanet02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/413 * 0.20-a0-244-g4348703: Divine weapons 10(5 hours ago, 2 files, 91+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/43487031df0e 14:38:11 03PabloMansanet02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/413 * 0.20-a0-245-gc922ff1: Placeholder tiles for divine weapons 10(4 hours ago, 7 files, 6+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c922ff1648bb 14:38:11 03PabloMansanet02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/413 * 0.20-a0-246-g2813547: Divine weapons are haloed 10(3 hours ago, 6 files, 68+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2813547cc2ba 14:38:11 03PabloMansanet02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/413 * 0.20-a0-247-g7bdfbb2: Increase divine weapon permanency 10(2 hours ago, 2 files, 56+ 15-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7bdfbb20d726 14:38:11 03PabloMansanet02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/413 * 0.20-a0-248-g30109f1: Momentum effect 10(2 hours ago, 5 files, 42+ 21-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/30109f106ebb 14:38:11 03PabloMansanet02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/413 * 0.20-a0-249-g7896e2e: Implement stealing and enhanced wrath due to theft 10(6 minutes ago, 12 files, 145+ 26-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7896e2ee74a5 14:44:19 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 14:52:06 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:54:13 -!- bgiannan_ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:56:35 SteelNeuron: looks like the overnight update worked 14:56:52 yeah :) 14:56:54 well. assuming the game isn't honked up 14:56:56 hm 14:57:01 not for these last commits, you mean, right? 14:57:06 !messages 14:57:06 (1/1) saitcho said (1d 22h 31m 40s ago): thanks a ton 14:57:12 because I'm not seeing these last changes 14:58:10 unless someone rebuilt today, the current game being served should be up to date as of last night around midnight PST 14:58:35 I was just saying that since I didn't get any pings today, looks like things are ok 14:59:27 Oh, I see :) yup, it seems like everything is working okay 15:00:02 I just pushed a massive set of changes though so I'd appreciate it if you could hit rebuild now as a one off, so I can make sure nothing breaks horribly before going to sleep and to work 15:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:00:28 from now on I'll only do bugfixes and minor tweaks, so it should be smooth sailing 15:02:51 what's this about divine weapons? 15:04:01 Brannock: Something a bit more out-there that I wanted to throw into the test branch as it's still experimental 15:04:14 is this the IJC capstone ability? 15:04:33 a set of unrands sort of like the fae armor (i.e. they don't represent a unique unrand, but more like a class of things) 15:04:51 they're basically mundane weapons but with further than +9 enchant level, and a special property that makes them hit hard after you move 15:05:04 and you only ever get those as allies when tension is high and you have enough invo 15:05:13 -!- yogidabear has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:06:02 in parallel to this, there's the feature that was discussed from the first iteration of the god, which is being able to steal a weapon on abandonment, and suffer a worse wrath 15:06:12 and of course not being able to rejoin until you drop it 15:07:31 mmmm, i see that this is getting yet more complex! 15:08:17 MarvinPA: All this was on the original design discussion :) Just didn't get around to implement it in one go 15:08:30 MarvinPA: If it's too bad in practice, we can go back to the earlier version 15:09:59 I think super weapons are workable, but not sure how I feel about stealing a weapon... 15:10:04 feels nethacky 15:10:15 otoh we do let players get capstone gifts from gods then abandon them 15:10:21 trog, oka, kiku 15:10:23 -!- jfcaron has quit [Quit: jfcaron] 15:11:07 Yeah the way I justify it to myself is that it's pretty much abandoning with a god gift 15:11:36 Interface wise, it's easy to see because you get a second ability called "Steal And Renounce" below "Renounce Religion" so it's not like it's too spoilery 15:20:14 capstone gifts from trog and oka? 15:20:49 I think Brannock meant getting normal trog gifts and then abandoning 15:21:16 oh ok 15:21:24 abandoning with a +13 exec axe of antimagic is better than anything you could get in this case (and without the extra wrath) so I'm not concerned about this bit balance wise 15:25:13 -!- wheals__ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:25:42 -!- wheals_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:29:28 -!- halv has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 15:30:18 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 15:40:03 03PabloMansanet02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/413 * 0.20-a0-250-g5a49c73: Fix integer rounding 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5a49c737362b 15:41:04 ??rebuild 15:41:04 rebuild[1/2]: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rebuild/ http://underhound.eu:81/rebuild/ http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/rebuild/ http://crawl.xtahua.com/rebuild/ https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/rebuild/ Bug |amethyst or Nap.Kin for CDO. Use your powers wisely. 15:42:15 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 15:47:34 -!- ig0rbit has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 15:51:59 -!- Reverie has joined ##crawl-dev 15:52:42 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.20-a0-228-g74fa834: Don't make noise affect mesmerisation/fear 10(81 minutes ago, 5 files, 6+ 43-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/74fa83487b9e 15:52:42 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.20-a0-229-ge6e0e65: Adjust some cloud/terrain interactions 10(36 minutes ago, 3 files, 8+ 36-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e6e0e65fc82d 15:54:21 -!- Patashu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 15:55:36 -!- halv has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:58:14 Experimental (councilgod-PR) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.20-a0-250-g5a49c73 16:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:02:41 -!- dxy77 has quit [Client Quit] 16:03:06 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 16:04:45 -!- Lasty has quit [Client Quit] 16:07:40 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 16:09:22 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.20-a0-229-ge6e0e65 (34) 16:25:34 -!- nikitamog has joined ##crawl-dev 16:34:58 -!- Kenran has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:37:11 -!- Reverie has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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I didn't realize it was considered "hidden" 17:54:01 some dev won a powered by death Ds recently so probably wanted to close 288 17:54:11 that was me 17:54:17 I won 2 or 3 PBD in the tournament 17:54:29 oh. I see PF mentioned that already too. 17:54:44 well, i mentioned it in a silly way 17:54:49 having anecdotal evidence is useful for My Side 17:55:05 insofar as there are sides to have 17:55:13 actually now that I've gotten to play PBD several times, let me look at 288 17:55:24 and I mentioned it semi-seriously. I try to be a voice in here for the less-experienced players 17:55:37 chequers, fwiw I found the mutation to be weak at 1-2 but absurdly strong at high levels 17:55:44 to the point I was otabbing through postgame 17:56:09 (uskayaw helped with that, certainly) 17:56:15 yeah. I've always struggled with how to balance pbd. If it was a single level mutation it would probably be totally balanced 17:56:40 and this looks like it makes it even more skewed towards pbd3 17:56:45 ya 17:56:56 !lg . ds urune=15 log 17:56:57 1. brannock, XL27 DsEn, T:112902: https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/morgue/brannock/morgue-brannock-20161114-163448.txt 17:57:17 combination of great gear, wyrmbane, PBD, uskayaw and I just literally held down tab until everything was dead 17:57:22 so hard to blame PBD for that 17:57:27 !lg . ds log 17:57:28 290. brannock, XL13 DsAE, T:30142: https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/morgue/brannock/morgue-brannock-20161126-022103.txt 17:57:30 -!- jfcaron has quit [Quit: jfcaron] 17:57:32 oops 17:57:34 !lg . ds log won 17:57:35 19. brannock, XL27 DsVM, T:89950: https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/morgue/brannock/morgue-brannock-20161118-200655.txt 17:57:48 that win is like all the best muts 17:57:49 That one didn't go postgame and had worse gear, but similar experience from PBD 18:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:01:17 -!- Svitkona has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:01:57 so given my recent experience I'm going to tentatively veto 288 as it triples the ceiling for how strong PBD can be 18:02:05 duration of PBD, that is 18:02:16 anyone else have opinions? 18:03:03 -!- aditya has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:03:23 Sweetruy1997 (L1 DsGl) ERROR: short read while reading save (D:1) 18:03:28 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.20-a0-230-g53ab4a8: Simplify ink cloud special cases 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 10-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/53ab4a8f0a97 18:03:28 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.20-a0-231-g7dccb13: Remove fast dissipation for opaque non-LOS clouds 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7dccb135217e 18:03:28 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.20-a0-232-g867de38: Make 'spreading flames' non-opaque 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/867de38edaff 18:03:43 the last time i merged a chequers pbd pr, i regretted it 18:04:01 i don't trust my own judgement on the matter! 18:04:53 i'm happy to close it then 18:05:01 8 to go! 18:05:07 i'm torn on the axe/polearm thing 18:05:12 it's sort of neat to have a signal outside 18:05:29 it is 18:05:31 and i don't think the weight skewing is a huge deal 18:08:03 #417 seems potentially reasonable 18:08:43 !seen geekosaur 18:08:43 I last saw geekosaur at Tue Nov 29 05:09:58 2016 UTC (17h 58m 37s ago) saying 'isn't the conceit/story that the storm dragon is her natural form?' on ##crawl-dev. 18:08:45 hm? 18:08:50 was looking at #400 18:08:51 * geekosaur is only about half here... 18:08:52 -!- scummos__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:08:57 no worries, non-urgent 18:09:24 -!- DevlanMud has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 18:09:48 if that's an OS X build ticket, as far as I am concerned I am no longer involved 18:10:16 I am decommissioning the Mac so I can replace it with something less obnoxious 18:11:11 03chequers02 {PleasingFungus} 07* 0.20-a0-233-g355e7a9: Add the orb status light whenever in Zot 10(3 weeks ago, 2 files, 11+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/355e7a9f3051 18:11:17 haha 18:11:18 fair enough! 18:11:24 thank you again for all the trouble you've gone through for us 18:11:37 i feel bad it's caused you so many headaches! 18:13:51 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 18:15:34 -!- Lasty has quit [Client Quit] 18:15:50 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.20-a0-229-ge6e0e65 (34) 18:16:51 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 18:17:44 03aegolden02 {PleasingFungus} 07* 0.20-a0-234-gaebe036: Change Mac OS X build arguments 10(12 days ago, 1 file, 5+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/aebe03603bdc 18:17:44 03aegolden02 {PleasingFungus} 07* 0.20-a0-235-g78c6870: Remove logic related to trying to find oldest available Mac OS X SDK 10(12 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 67-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/78c68709658e 18:17:44 03aegolden02 {PleasingFungus} 07* 0.20-a0-236-g5d318e2: Simplify Mac OS X build instructions in INSTALL.txt 10(12 days ago, 1 file, 4+ 8-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5d318e29fcef 18:17:44 03aegolden02 {PleasingFungus} 07* 0.20-a0-237-gf5c78d3: Rename APPLE_GCC to APPLE_PLATFORM 10(9 days ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f5c78d351635 18:17:51 thanks PleasingFungus 18:18:38 03aegolden02 07* 0.20-a0-211-g454d93f: Prevent Makefile from blowing away the prefix and chroot_prefix 10(3 days ago, 1 file, 0+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/454d93fa4532 18:18:38 03PleasingFungus02 {GitHub} 07* 0.20-a0-239-gf5528ca: Merge pull request #414 from aegolden/FixMakefilePrefix 10(8 seconds ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f5528cac8301 18:20:25 hello 18:20:29 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:20:31 I heard there were trap changes planned 18:20:43 and something about a doom clock 18:20:52 ask lasty 18:21:18 tabstorm: it's a speculative plan/branch 18:21:24 that I haven't started on yet 18:21:34 crawl 4.2 18:21:44 Oh.. i was going to suggest you try Infra Arcana 18:21:52 it has a level-by-level clock type system 18:22:09 Unfortunately it has many other bad/annoying features.. but it at least gets that one right, and does not have a food clock 18:22:34 Basically you have X time to get to the downstair.. and if you are too slow you can pick up the equivalent of mutations, or have other bad effects 18:23:18 background chaos??? 18:23:38 feature request: prevent worshipping a god on the orb run 18:23:54 chequers: why 18:23:56 so i am not tempted to lie in my stats 18:24:02 I guess? 18:24:09 in game it is called "insanity" 18:24:20 Using consumables and seeing certain enemies increases your insanity, too 18:25:00 it is listed as X%/Y%, when X hits 100 you get some kind of bad effect and Y -> Y +5, if Y gets to 100 you lose the game 18:25:16 @??ooze 18:25:16 ooze (15J) | Spd: 10 | HD: 3 | HP: 9-14 | AC/EV: 1/3 | Dam: 5 | see invisible, unbreathing | Res: 06magic(20), 03poison, 08acid+++, 08blind, 12drown | XP: 6 | Sz: little | Int: brainless. 18:25:25 This does not really happen unless you are playing really bad... but if you were playing really bad you would have died long before you reached 100 insanity 18:25:27 @??quokka 18:25:27 quokka (00r) | Spd: 12 | HD: 1 | HP: 4-7 | AC/EV: 2/13 | Dam: 5 | XP: 2 | Sz: little | Int: animal. 18:25:36 is there anything distinctive about ooze? 18:25:42 they dont even have rn like jellies 18:26:11 chequers: seems like a silly reason to add a special case, and annoying for interactions with orbrun shenanigans - e.g. someone accidentally gets excommunicated when orbrunning tomb, or wants to switch gods for orbrun zigs, or something else 18:26:16 neither of those are high priorities ofc 18:26:48 but neither is discouraging you from a very, very specific action 18:27:05 oozes used to be slow, but right now they're just a d:1 rpois enemy 18:27:29 fair enough re orbrun 18:29:08 -!- Pacra_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:29:27 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:30:36 tabstorm: I don't like the idea of having a binary "you made it or not" timer per floor -- I prefer the tension of "if I linger a little more, I'm starting to risk worse situations later" 18:30:48 I like the ambiguity and judgment calls 18:30:59 tho I'm sure that'd drive players like Sandman nuts 18:31:15 Well fought! If necessary, rest up with [5], the continue downwards with [>]. 18:31:18 typo in the tutorial 18:31:48 in 'tutorial3 downstairs' message 18:31:52 if someone would like to fix it without a pr 18:31:55 I'll get on that 18:32:01 I'm doing another fix right now anyway 18:32:31 oh 18:32:33 i just made a commit 18:32:37 np 18:33:02 anyone in here currently that understands ouch.cc? 18:33:13 I'm pretty sure my fix will work but it might have some weird interactions (testing right now) that I'm unsure about 18:33:55 wow, the ratskin cloak is in the tutorial 18:33:58 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:34:00 PleasingFungus: say, did you ever poke at making a goldified-ammo-Q-menu? 18:34:03 with a message about how randarts can have special properties 18:34:12 how about a randart that's actually special -.- 18:34:12 chequers: "or not" 18:34:28 I'd be fine w/ just removing ratskin cloak 18:34:36 +1 18:34:46 put like the ring of shadows 18:34:50 03aegolden02 {PleasingFungus} 07* 0.20-a0-240-g409887a: Add a symlink to init.txt for Mac OS X users 10(6 weeks ago, 1 file, 28+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/409887acc9b9 18:34:50 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.20-a0-241-ge0d8a1c: Fix the tutorial typo (chequers) 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e0d8a1c72db0 18:35:04 THE tutorial typo... 18:35:07 Lasty: no. i've been doing very little on crawl lately 18:35:16 PleasingFungus: ah, me too 18:35:17 Brannock: see, it's the word 'the' 18:35:21 o/ 18:35:22 haha 18:35:46 PleasingFungus: but how am I supposed to get anything done if you won't do it for me? :p 18:36:34 Okay I fixed the player waking up when dying, and it successfully wakes up felid players who die THEN are reincarnated 18:36:37 a fine question 18:36:37 but my fix has a weird side effect 18:36:49 the player will wake up if they take damage that is reduced to 0 by spirit shield 18:37:06 that seems not ieal 18:37:07 Oh, I think that's actually how it works right now 18:37:08 ideal 18:37:09 never mind 18:37:24 the damage check (and awakening) is before the spirit shield reduction check 18:37:34 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 18:38:44 i mean, spirit shield doesn't mean you don't take damage 18:38:49 just some of it goes to mp instead of hp 18:38:51 no? 18:39:02 right 18:39:06 watching newbies follow the tutorial is VERY interesting 18:39:08 join me in my campaign for mp/hp equality 18:39:09 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: he's checking "is the amount of damage greater than the player's HP?" 18:39:15 <|amethyst> to see whether you will die 18:39:19 !source ouch.cc:855 18:39:20 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/ouch.cc#L855 18:39:22 is the relevant line 18:39:25 oh, |amethyst ! my man 18:39:31 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 18:39:32 did you see our pings the other day re the horrible pan save bug 18:39:38 panzot 18:39:40 <|amethyst> nope 18:39:42 I added in '&& dam < you.hp' to that check 18:39:53 so if dam = you.hp (or greater) then the player doesn't wake up 18:39:53 !bug 10821 18:39:54 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10821 18:40:06 so we can track sleeping status for kills 18:40:06 ^ trying to figure out how to rescue these two saves 18:40:18 like, here's a cool ui twist 18:40:25 the tutorial suggest dropping an amulet with d 18:40:26 I tested spirit shield, felids, regular deaths, everything seems fine to me... 18:40:30 not sure what else to test for 18:40:36 so this person presses d, then realises they have to press 'n' for the amulet, and then... what? 18:40:41 heh 18:40:46 they first pressed escape 18:40:55 then it didn't work, so they went back and THEN pressed enter 18:41:01 problem solving... 18:41:07 not immediately obvious that it's multiselect, i guess 18:41:10 hrm 18:41:30 haha, we display "press _ for help" at the top at all times 18:41:32 in that menu 18:41:38 but: the help never mentions pressing enter, as far as i can see 18:41:49 maybe d could become single drop by default, with an option for multi-drop mode 18:41:55 ehh 18:42:08 would that involve moving multidrop to D? 18:42:10 I like D behavior 18:42:18 (drops the most recent pickup) 18:42:22 that's a good idea, d is single-drop, D is multi-drop 18:42:33 haha 18:42:39 i like current D too, but I think the current d behaviour is annoying 18:42:42 *d for drop last, obviously 18:42:47 chequers, another problem with d being singledrop is you might misfire and drop something you didn't intend to 18:42:55 or maybe, the tutorial should show how to drop via i->letter->d 18:43:12 though i was thinking D as single-drop and d as multi 18:43:22 it should show all inventory interaction through i rather than the other keys :) 18:43:55 hah 18:43:59 they quaffed two potions of might in a row 18:44:06 because obviously, that makes you twice as mighty 18:44:09 -!- Ququman has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:44:21 it would in some games! 18:44:38 this final tutorial battle is pretty rough 18:45:15 !source god_protects_from_harm 18:45:15 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/religion.cc#L3928 18:45:39 elyvilon_lifesaving() should probably return an enum 18:45:47 huh, harm protection nullifies all the damage you'd take 18:45:52 didn't know that 18:46:25 newbies hoovering dungeon loot is probably ok 18:46:59 yeah, they all do that 18:47:01 they'll learn 18:47:06