00:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00:22 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.20-a0-151-g755e310 (34) 00:02:21 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:10:17 -!- minmay has joined ##crawl-dev 00:10:23 -!- destroythecore has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:10:39 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 00:10:50 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 00:12:09 -!- Lasty has quit [Client Quit] 00:12:23 heh, i just noticed that the council god is generating quick blades of speed 00:12:34 i'm thinking that should probably be disallowed 00:19:01 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:21:35 -!- valrus has quit [Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 00:22:35 -!- introsp3ctive_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:24:32 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 00:24:39 !tell chequers we were *not* blocked on the in-game notification, we were blocked on you putting up a post on the blog announcing the survey!!! 00:24:39 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let chequers know. 00:24:55 !tell chequers the in-game notification has a branch! i showed you it!!!!!! 00:24:55 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let chequers know. 00:25:57 ProzacElf: maybe allow at really high piety? or you mean never allow ever? 00:26:22 well, speed is normally not allowed at all on qblades, is it? 00:26:52 yeah 00:27:06 it's generating a lot of speed weapons period at 5* piety. but i'm not totally sure that's a problem 00:27:16 oh, it is allowed on qblades? 00:27:24 it is not 00:27:26 i was agreeing with you 00:28:08 oh 00:28:09 heh 00:29:11 !tell dpeg i changed my mind. i think gozag need piety decay 00:29:12 Rast: OK, I'll let dpeg know. 00:29:29 also dblades of speed for that matter 00:29:40 and some other ones that wouldn't ordinarily be able to get the brand 00:30:01 i mean, if that's just a benefit of the god, cool 00:30:23 !tell dpeg with normal gods, dawdling trades piety for xp. with gozag it just means more of both, unless you run out of food, which would require extreme amounts of wasting time. 00:30:24 Rast: OK, I'll let dpeg know. 00:31:50 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 00:33:54 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 00:35:30 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.93 [Firefox 50.0/20161104212021]] 00:36:01 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:36:27 !tell pleasingfungus i can't access the blog system, how could that be blocked on me? 00:36:28 chequers: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 00:41:30 he just really wanted to use some exclamation points 00:43:35 :( 00:44:01 !tell pleasingfungus also, i told everyone I was away the few days when tourney started! I was at a destination wedding!! 00:44:01 chequers: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 00:44:02 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 00:47:00 hey, does council god let you use bows/crossbows? 00:51:39 -!- asdu has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:52:35 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 00:53:04 ooh I didn't know there wasn't a qb^speed. for some reason I thought I had that once 00:55:04 -!- Krakhan|2 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:57:37 -!- AltReality has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:59:02 yo I think Ieoh Jian is slightly OP 01:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:01:03 %git 3c1ee9c 01:01:03 07MarvinPA02 * 0.19-a0-1090-g3c1ee9c: Rework various negative energy checks 10(4 months ago, 10 files, 127+ 105-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3c1ee9c4ceed 01:01:55 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 01:02:30 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:04:20 -!- Harudoku has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:04:29 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 01:09:10 -!- Kalir has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:09:35 -!- jfcaron has quit [Quit: jfcaron] 01:09:42 -!- GiantOwl is now known as Kalir 01:09:43 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 01:12:38 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 01:13:22 -!- Kadarus_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:21:44 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:24:49 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 01:25:54 -!- sooheon has joined ##crawl-dev 01:27:38 hey devs, thanks as always for your work. the latest trunk has very blue everything, is this intended or a side-effect of the curses rendering refactor? http://imgur.com/a/p5thk 01:28:15 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 01:31:20 sooheon: they were talking about that earlier, i think it is indeed a side-effect 01:31:24 and will presumably get fixed 01:31:35 thank you! 01:33:06 sooheon: see the followign rc to fix 01:33:18 &rc johnny0 trunk cbro 01:33:20 http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/rcfiles/crawl-git/johnnyzero.rc 01:33:40 sooheon: depending on your terminal, those five settings you see at the top 01:33:58 will restore the use of grey instead of blue 01:34:53 ok thanks. so it's turning off the brighten background--i should turn this back on once the feature gets fixed in trunk? 01:35:11 is this a new feature that 01:35:25 is this a new feature that'll make the dungeon prettier like brogue? or literally just refactoring 01:39:25 so clock_gettime is definitely borked for things built with the Mac OS 10.12 SDK and running on earlier versions of Mac OS X, just as geekasaur warned, but is clock_gettime actually used in crawl? 01:40:06 -!- Xiberia has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 01:40:29 (of course even if it’s not something else could be broken, how annoying) 01:44:56 sooheon: it's mostly about doing something reasonable for older terminals 01:45:13 there have been plans to add support for more colors in crawl but nothing has happened so far 01:46:11 this looks like n78291.rc heh 01:46:21 !seen n78291 01:46:21 I last saw N78291 at Sat Nov 29 06:48:05 2014 UTC (about 1y 51w 2d 23h 58m 10s ago) quitting, saying 'Quit: null'. 01:48:51 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 01:50:12 -!- ldf_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:51:54 ??mass confusion 01:51:54 mass confusion[1/2]: Level 6 Hexes. Tries to confuse all monsters in LOS. Unlike Alistairs, it works on the undead, poison resistant, and pretty much everyone else - but checks MR. Removed in 0.18. 01:52:18 ??phase shift 01:52:18 phase shift[1/1]: A L5 Translocations spell that gives you +8 EV while active. Removed in 0.18. 02:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:00:27 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 02:02:11 -!- Lasty has quit [Client Quit] 02:03:37 hrm, now my light colors aren't bolden any more 02:03:40 wonder why that is 02:04:54 moose (L9 HOGl) ERROR: range check error (-1 / 35) (D:3) 02:05:37 johnny0: for some reason, in my vte terminal the light colors are no longer bold 02:06:58 yeah, if I set use_extended_colors=true, I lose bold light color text 02:08:24 -!- draeath has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:09:35 it seems I have to have TERM=xterm to get bold with light colors 02:12:35 gammafunk: very random question about rcfiles, is there some editor tool (vi/emacs) to create those comment text boxes for section headers? What would i search to find that 02:13:11 -!- dtsundere has joined ##crawl-dev 02:15:51 -!- bgiannan_ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:18:58 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:21:13 it's not really a "box" so much as a single line with a bunch of #s, and then one # in front of every other line. you can get the former by holding down # for a while, and the latter is something that editors do offer (ie, write the text without #s, then put a # in front of each line all at once) 02:22:34 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 02:24:54 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:26:53 amalloy: yeah i was just struck with laziness. i thought there'd be something like select and then M-x surround-with-# 02:27:10 sooheon: try M-; 02:27:15 to preface with # 02:28:04 ah yeah i am aware of that. also the prepending/appending # to 3 lines at at a time thing too 02:28:58 -!- Awod has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 02:29:05 btw, what are the possible color names? i tried like darkyellow, and it doesn't recognize, though darkgrey exists 02:30:36 nvm i guess it's just the ansi colors, i thought with allow_extended_colors it'd try to make others too 02:31:36 -!- Patashu__ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:32:43 Turn loss while using unavailable commands(which normally should be working) 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10812 by kimnosuk 02:32:43 LogicNinja (L11 MiMo) ASSERT(in_bounds(mg.pos)) in 'mon-place.cc' at line 3235 failed. (D:12) 02:34:37 -!- DDFi has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:35:41 -!- LordSloth has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 02:41:33 -!- bgiannan has quit [Disconnected by services] 02:41:59 -!- bgiannan has joined ##crawl-dev 02:42:14 -!- bgiannan has quit [Disconnected by services] 02:42:25 -!- bgiannan_ is now known as bgiannan 02:42:38 -!- bgiannan_ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:45:27 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 02:50:47 sooheon: heh, yeah, I copy the other section headers and just edit them, but like amalloy says there are some editor tricks to help 02:56:26 -!- muravey has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 02:58:37 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 02:59:35 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 03:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:02:31 -!- Zeor1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:02:51 -!- bgiannan has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:03:38 -!- geekosaur has quit [Excess Flood] 03:03:46 -!- n1k has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:04:30 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:05:29 -!- geekosaur has joined ##crawl-dev 03:05:38 -!- ZiBuDo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:06:09 -!- n1 has joined ##crawl-dev 03:08:18 -!- sooheon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:12:53 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.20-a0-151-g755e310 (34) 03:18:23 -!- _Jordan_ has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 03:19:51 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 03:20:34 -!- bgiannan has joined ##crawl-dev 03:23:19 PlatinumSpider (L9 DsMo) ASSERT(in_bounds(mg.pos)) in 'mon-place.cc' at line 3235 failed. (D:8) 03:27:30 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:30:20 -!- SteelNeuron has joined ##crawl-dev 03:39:00 ticket flood by Yermak - all good? 03:42:06 yeah, those were legit 03:42:24 Napkin: I was wondering, we've been getting a ton of botnet spam on tavern 03:42:31 we've been removing/banning, but they keep coming 03:42:52 this user zxc and another one that's korean 03:42:59 the zxc one is chinese text spam 03:43:29 uhoh 03:45:34 mmhh.. sucky 03:50:00 Hello Napkin :) 03:50:07 Hey Eino :) 03:50:13 what's up? 03:51:03 Man, the tournament tends to just whizz by for me.. I started two games in total. I think my achievements consist of killing Sigmund. 03:51:06 Which isn't that bad really. 03:52:30 Napkin: It's very nice.. I attended a house-warming party on Saturday and saw some dear friends I haven't seen in a good while, and I'm still feeling constantly happy about that, it's weird 03:53:40 hehe, i recently had a class reunion and saw people I hadn't seen for damn 20 years 03:53:54 i get what you mean :D 03:54:19 Nice :D nice to know it's not just me being strande :D 03:54:24 stran-ge 03:54:47 I've had a classmate talk about class reunion and now it sounds like a great idea. 03:57:23 i was fun and actually relaxing 03:57:40 -!- muravey has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 03:58:33 -!- agolden has quit [Quit: agolden] 03:59:24 I think that since I'm getting older (and probably everyone else too does, but) I'm much more socially relaxed than I used to be, and that helps making these occasions (even) more enjoyable. 04:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:00:21 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:01:38 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 04:06:51 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 04:06:56 -!- jfcaron has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:15:30 -!- dtsundere has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:17:00 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 04:17:16 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 04:19:46 -!- bgiannan has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:20:31 -!- aditya has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:20:38 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:22:20 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 04:30:16 -!- Kadarus_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:30:42 -!- muravey has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 04:31:21 -!- Brannock has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:31:46 -!- Brannock has joined ##crawl-dev 04:34:06 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 04:34:46 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 04:35:10 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 04:43:21 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 04:44:53 -!- geekosaur has quit [Excess Flood] 04:45:05 -!- Lasty has quit [Client Quit] 04:46:01 Brannock: Were you going to write a tournament summary post at some point? You can look back at the previous ones and use the same format and set of things to hilight. 04:46:10 !tell Brannock Were you going to write a tournament summary post at some point? You can look back at the previous ones and use the same format and set of things to hilight. 04:46:11 gammafunk: OK, I'll let brannock know. 04:46:59 !tell Brannock Another aspect of the release is doing the point release after the tournament, 0.19.1 would need any commits we want to cherry-pick from trunk (this should mostly already be done, but some may be missing), then it can be tagged 04:46:59 gammafunk: OK, I'll let brannock know. 04:47:40 -!- muravey has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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(www.adiirc.com)] 08:31:43 -!- Harudoku_ is now known as Harudoku 08:34:11 I should try to set up Mac OS X building on my work mac, don't know when I can get to that though 08:35:12 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:38:56 -!- iceiceice has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 08:40:37 -!- iceiceice has quit [Changing host] 08:44:56 -!- waat has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:48:34 -!- nikheizen has joined ##crawl-dev 08:51:04 -!- Lasty_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:53:18 -!- Lasty_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:03:34 -!- SteelNeuron has joined ##crawl-dev 09:03:56 -!- jfcaron has quit [Quit: jfcaron] 09:06:38 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:06:44 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:07:05 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:12:32 -!- strat has quit [Client Quit] 09:22:03 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 09:22:58 -!- bgiannan has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:23:12 -!- Harudoku has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:23:18 -!- ololoev has quit [Client Quit] 09:24:13 -!- Lasty has quit [Client Quit] 09:24:24 -!- jfcaron has quit [Quit: jfcaron] 09:26:57 03PabloMansanet02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/387 * 0.20-a0-192-g2587977: Allow firing through Ieoh Jian weapons 10(in the future, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2587977fdc89 09:26:57 03PabloMansanet02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/387 * 0.20-a0-193-g7b9906a: Always liquify with Steel Dragonfly Technique, but with variable dice. 10(in the future, 2 files, 8+ 8-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7b9906a235cc 09:31:03 -!- iceiceice has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 09:38:10 -!- dtsund has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:39:11 -!- Patashu__ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:45:10 -!- nezrel has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:54:19 gammafunk, I finished up the tournament post on Sunday, you can review it on wordpress if you like. Just waiting on johnstein's graphs before I post it 09:54:19 Brannock: You have 3 messages. Use !messages to read them. 09:58:34 Brannock: I pulled data yesterday. I'll try to plot it in the next day or so 09:58:48 cool :) 10:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:17:50 -!- Bammboo has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:32:20 -!- nikheizen has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:33:21 gammafunk: the colors are being set directly with no character attributes with a 16+ color terminfo+terminal. The xterm terminfo only has eight colors so you're back to the terminal-specific bolding behavior for bright foreground colors 10:36:59 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:38:51 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 10:38:56 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 10:40:33 gammafunk: this may let you get more use out of something like friend_brand=bold in direct 16-color mode 10:40:37 -!- Lasty has quit [Client Quit] 10:47:07 -!- n1k has joined ##crawl-dev 10:48:01 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:48:18 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 10:48:57 -!- Shinino_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:49:14 -!- twelwe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:49:56 -!- n1 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:53:55 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.20-a0-153-g8e82014: Simplify holy damage 10(2 weeks ago, 13 files, 57+ 69-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8e82014a759a 10:53:55 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.20-a0-154-ge92b557: Simplify TSO's stabbing conduct 10(10 days ago, 24 files, 60+ 105-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e92b5572ce78 10:53:55 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.20-a0-155-g66c1950: Reword TSO's DID_SEE_MONSTER conduct 10(7 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/66c19504ab24 10:53:55 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.20-a0-156-gc6e9da2: Remove TSO's poison conduct 10(7 days ago, 8 files, 1+ 67-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c6e9da29ea2c 10:53:55 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.20-a0-157-g958a910: Adjust holy damage for resistance changes 10(3 days ago, 2 files, 3+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/958a910997bd 10:56:41 -!- LexAckson__ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:57:56 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:00:56 Djon (L10 HOFi) ASSERT(succ) in 'religion.cc' at line 4009 failed. (D:7) 11:05:05 -!- jfcaron has quit [Quit: jfcaron] 11:07:27 !crashlog 11:07:28 15816. Djon, XL10 HOFi, T:5564 (milestone): http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/Djon/crash-Djon-20161122-160045.txt 11:07:43 -!- scummos__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:07:50 ah 11:08:58 !tell SteelNeuron 15816. Djon, XL10 HOFi, T:5564 (milestone): http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/Djon/crash-Djon-20161122-160045.txt 11:08:58 MarvinPA: OK, I'll let steelneuron know. 11:09:16 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.20-a0-157-g958a910 (34) 11:12:52 MarvinPa: Ah, goddammit 11:12:53 SteelNeuron: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 11:12:59 that's because I don't have penance yet, right? 11:13:01 !messages 11:13:01 (1/2) johnstein said (12h 57m 35s ago): ok, council god is up on cbro. I didn't get the auto-PR figured out and don't really have time to dig in, so you'll have to bug a dev to keep the councilgod branch up to date when you update. 11:13:59 looks like it at a glance, should probably just add a do-nothing penance 11:14:07 Yup... I hadn't tested abandoning IJC yet :/ 11:14:11 will have a patch in a few hours 11:17:02 -!- valrus_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:18:55 -!- SteelNeuron has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:22:20 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 11:23:49 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:24:03 -!- Lasty has quit [Client Quit] 11:36:27 -!- Harudoku has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:38:18 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 11:41:07 -!- Lasty has quit [Client Quit] 11:49:39 03wheals02 07* 0.20-a0-158-g33a96a6: Remove more poison conduct code. 10(58 seconds ago, 1 file, 0+ 13-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/33a96a662357 12:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:00:45 -!- LexAckson_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:00:50 -!- LexAckson_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:01:49 -!- LexAckson_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:03:44 -!- LexAckson__ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:05:52 -!- chcl3 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:09:17 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.20-a0-158-g33a96a6 (34) 12:13:51 -!- ilyak has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:15:47 -!- chcl3 has quit [Read error: No route to host] 12:17:24 -!- THERetroGamerNY has quit [Quit: Be Blessed!] 12:22:03 -!- Grammus has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:22:52 -!- SteelNeuron has joined ##crawl-dev 12:24:16 -!- Kenran has joined ##crawl-dev 12:28:44 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.20-a0-158-g33a96a6 (34) 12:31:09 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 12:33:16 -!- chcl3 has quit [Read error: No route to host] 12:37:50 -!- chcl3 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:39:34 -!- Calamarain has quit [Read error: No route to host] 12:43:23 -!- ZiBuDo has joined ##crawl-dev 12:49:42 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 12:51:14 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:58:25 -!- jfcaron has quit [Quit: jfcaron] 12:59:46 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 13:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:20:11 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:21:34 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 13:23:10 -!- muravey has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 13:29:37 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 13:31:54 I wonder if we should change spell_is_direct_explosion to a SPFLAG 13:32:02 !source spell_is_direct_explosion 13:32:02 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/spl-util.cc#L439 13:32:48 I guess it wouldn't change much either way 13:37:16 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 13:38:59 -!- Lasty has quit [Client Quit] 13:40:13 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 13:43:03 03PabloMansanet02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/387 * 0.20-a0-194-geff612a: More expressive martial mastery explanation 10(55 minutes ago, 2 files, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/eff612a41966 13:43:03 03PabloMansanet02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/387 * 0.20-a0-195-ge44f0d0: Fix crash when abandoning IJC 10(55 minutes ago, 1 file, 7+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e44f0d04e0d2 13:43:03 03PabloMansanet02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/387 * 0.20-a0-196-g6352e03: Steel Dragonfly fixes and buffs 10(4 minutes ago, 5 files, 11+ 7-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6352e031bcf0 13:44:53 |amethyst: I really don't know. I can change the default rendering assumptions back to pre-merge values if the clash with blue is too severe. The problem then becomes: how does a user with a terminal where these assumptions don't hold up 1. immediately realize it and 2. quickly drop to safer assumptions to get the text visible 13:46:09 -!- muravey has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 13:46:50 14crawl0 - if you don't see "crawl" to the left, press to enter safe mode 13:47:59 whoops, that was supposed to be lightgrey following text, but something in that vein, perhaps more obvious 13:53:24 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:53:44 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 13:54:41 MarvinPA: btw, i tested examining obsidian statues in debug console (in addition to testing tiles), and it still crashes 13:54:41 PleasingFungus: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 13:54:48 so i really don't know how it works for you 13:54:58 huh 13:55:06 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 13:55:46 that is extremely confusing, yeah 13:55:49 !tell chequers the last i'd heard, you said that you were going to write a post announcing the survey with translations into two languages, and then i didn't hear anything more. i'd be happy to post something if you send it to me. 13:55:49 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let chequers know. 13:57:25 -!- kdrnic has joined ##crawl-dev 13:58:33 oh, hmm! i do get a crash when examining plain "statue" (and those do in fact have a 20 damage attack, also) 13:58:44 the statues were alive all along.. 13:59:22 i guess because those are always meant to be placed by vaults and have a weapon, or something? 13:59:47 hm, now obsidian statue works for me 13:59:48 also, yeah 13:59:50 hrm 13:59:52 well, that's easy enough to fix 14:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:00:18 or if they're not given a weapon to not have an attack, i guess 14:00:22 statues are weird 14:01:52 Could anyone with commit access give me a hand and merge the council god PR branch into the council god official branch? There's a crash-stopping bug fix in :) 14:03:12 oh 14:03:19 the 'statue' monster uses the obsidian statue tile 14:03:22 that's probably what was confusing me 14:03:40 03PabloMansanet02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/387 * 0.20-a0-197-g2f985b9: Ability level change + no firewood whacking 10(4 minutes ago, 3 files, 5+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2f985b9debac 14:04:12 aha 14:04:21 i guess that's also usually redefined too in vaults, yeah 14:04:28 tiles_unreasons! 14:04:40 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.20-a0-159-g157c32f: Fix a statue xv crash 10(54 seconds ago, 2 files, 9+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/157c32f57bb9 14:06:42 |amethyst: for example, https://www.getlucked.com/crawl/img/wrong_bold_assumption_background_selection.png doesn't look immediately wrong unless you know that all backgrounds are supposed to be visible. Similarly for out-of-range stuff: https://www.getlucked.com/crawl/img/wrong_bold_assumption_out_of_los.png 14:20:03 MarvinPA: do you have strong feelings about https://github.com/amalloy/crawl/commit/c1f6e6a3454a0a7d1ec9f6eebe210c5d7b96af7b vs https://github.com/amalloy/crawl/commit/d81c93b416eebdd4559ae24ddcd0b2bf7fdb3249 ? 14:21:22 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 14:23:17 that refactor is... interesting 14:26:47 -!- NeremWorld has quit [] 14:26:58 what do you find interesting? 14:29:05 it's very dense 14:29:12 i'm trying to decide how readable i find it 14:31:58 for me the least excellent thing about the refactor is it's not so easy to convince yourself that the die() is unreachable 14:32:13 (i put it in there to make it clear that it *is* unreachable) 14:32:55 the only way you could reach it is if applying monster resistance caused an original damage amount of 0 to become non-zero, which is imposisble because it's multiplicative scaling 14:33:20 er, even then you'd never get there, actually 14:37:59 -!- twelwe has joined ##crawl-dev 14:38:35 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:41:33 -!- ebering has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:44:22 Got a PR for the quick fix on the experimental branch: https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/406 . PleasingFungus maybe? :) 14:44:44 When Travis is done with it ofc 14:45:56 New branch created: pull/406 (78 commits) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/406 14:46:00 03PabloMansanet02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/406 * 0.19-a0-1850-g57e476e: Initial Ieoh Jian commit 10(6 weeks ago, 1 file, 9+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/57e476ee098f 14:46:00 03PabloMansanet02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/406 * 0.19-a0-1851-ge16f018: WIP Ieoh Jian shell 10(6 weeks ago, 10 files, 30924+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e16f018a01c0 14:46:00 03PabloMansanet02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/406 * 0.19-a0-1852-gb297530: Ieoh Jian shell 10(6 weeks ago, 11 files, 43+ 7-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b297530d2015 14:46:00 03PabloMansanet02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/406 * 0.19-a0-1853-gd23be47: Ieoh Jian improves cross-training and knocks your weapons away on joining 10(6 weeks ago, 7 files, 83+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d23be47bc46a 14:46:00 03PabloMansanet02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/406 * 0.19-a0-1854-g0358434: Initializing the collection 10(6 weeks ago, 5 files, 45+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0358434eae36 14:46:00 03PabloMansanet02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/406 * 0.19-a0-1855-g055b1ab: Weapon manifestation 10(5 weeks ago, 24 files, 9180+ 95-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/055b1abd2576 14:46:00 03PabloMansanet02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/406 * 0.19-a0-1856-g94c1238: Improve weapon selection algorithm and move everything to hash table 10(5 weeks ago, 12 files, 99+ 64-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/94c1238bb365 14:46:00 03PabloMansanet02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/406 * 0.19-a0-1857-gb0c943f: Killing off weapons when the council loses interest 10(5 weeks ago, 6 files, 27+ 7-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b0c943f94da2 14:46:00 03PabloMansanet02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/406 * 0.19-a0-1858-gc7117b2: Backoff 10(5 weeks ago, 11 files, 95+ 33-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c7117b253957 14:46:00 03PabloMansanet02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/406 * 0.19-a0-1859-gcad85f8: Spawning and despawning 10(5 weeks ago, 12 files, 253+ 87-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/cad85f8171d6 14:46:00 ... and 68 more commits 14:48:27 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 14:49:04 quick fix, 78 commits. seems legit 14:49:05 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 14:49:54 03PabloMansanet02 07[councilgod] * 0.20-a0-192-g2587977: Allow firing through Ieoh Jian weapons 10(3 hours ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2587977fdc89 14:49:54 03PabloMansanet02 07[councilgod] * 0.20-a0-193-g7b9906a: Always liquify with Steel Dragonfly Technique, but with variable dice. 10(3 hours ago, 2 files, 8+ 8-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7b9906a235cc 14:49:54 03PabloMansanet02 07[councilgod] * 0.20-a0-194-geff612a: More expressive martial mastery explanation 10(2 hours ago, 2 files, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/eff612a41966 14:49:54 03PabloMansanet02 07[councilgod] * 0.20-a0-195-ge44f0d0: Fix crash when abandoning IJC 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 7+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e44f0d04e0d2 14:49:54 03PabloMansanet02 07[councilgod] * 0.20-a0-196-g6352e03: Steel Dragonfly fixes and buffs 10(70 minutes ago, 5 files, 11+ 7-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6352e031bcf0 14:49:54 03PabloMansanet02 07[councilgod] * 0.20-a0-197-g2f985b9: Ability level change + no firewood whacking 10(50 minutes ago, 3 files, 5+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2f985b9debac 14:50:17 Cheers :) 14:50:48 -!- muravey has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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15:09:32 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hun_and_po 15:09:39 oh neat 15:10:07 * geekosaur is going to be pulling and rebuilding a lot over the next few days... 15:10:44 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:11:05 MarvinPA, won't removing that code in spl-cast make it a large buff to savecompat hats? 15:11:31 probably doesn't matter as there's like, maybe one player right now with a Hat of the High Council who will transfer their save? 15:11:36 huh? 15:11:37 oh 15:11:41 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.20-a0-176-g858dfd8: Remove a High Council vault 10(31 seconds ago, 1 file, 0+ 25-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/858dfd8c5951 15:11:47 sure 15:12:20 probably should've ifdef'd it i guess yeah 15:12:51 MarvinPA: resending a message from earlier since you recently touched this code: do you have strong feelings about https://github.com/amalloy/crawl/commit/c1f6e6a3454a0a7d1ec9f6eebe210c5d7b96af7b vs https://github.com/amalloy/crawl/commit/d81c93b416eebdd4559ae24ddcd0b2bf7fdb3249 ? 15:13:36 MarvinPA: does this mean etheric cage will be made into something beneficial 15:14:31 oh yeah, i did see that earlier - not really, i think i pretty much just copied similar handling for other beams 15:14:34 oh also imo make that vault have robe of folly instead 15:14:41 lol 15:14:50 im serious 15:15:08 yeah, I'm laughing at the thought of a player fighting through that vault only to find that thing 15:15:08 eventually we will have a vault for every unrand! 15:15:12 an unrandart in every pot 15:15:22 robe of folly is really good though... 15:15:26 okay. i'll commit the dense version, so PF can come to grips with his ability to appreciate dense code 15:15:56 it's not that dense, imo 15:17:03 03amalloy02 {Alan Malloy} 07* 0.20-a0-177-ga5c5602: Refactor messaging for holy damage scaling 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 8+ 17-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a5c56027066e 15:17:21 i think some people are just afraid of chained ?: operators 15:17:35 but it's just a weird syntax for (cond) 15:18:23 -!- ilyak has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:18:40 I wonder why chei communicates your full name 15:18:44 i think that broke compilation 15:18:50 uh-oh 15:19:14 rip 15:19:31 i forgot that step 15:19:38 haven't built on this machine yet 15:19:52 oh, presumably because it's trying to do simple_monster_message(*mons, die("asdf")) which isn't a thing 15:20:37 and here I am compiling my branch half a dozen times to check various things and make tweaks 15:20:47 oh, it committed using my @google email address, is why i got the {} syntax. gotta fix my gitconfig 15:21:12 oh hey, how's the new job going? 15:22:29 hm that guarded_unrand vault reminds me that i guess no_pickup in vaults doesn't do anything now? 15:22:43 oh nevermind i'm thinking jellies 15:22:53 -!- Kenran has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:23:37 Brannock: pretty great tbh. the company culture is awsome, the perks are great, there's a lot of stuff to learn 15:24:14 and it's nice to be back in the bay area 15:25:07 MarvinPA: I freakin' wish 15:25:31 03amalloy02 07* 0.20-a0-178-g172aa85: Fix compilation - gotta have compatible return types 10(22 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/172aa85be1df 15:26:00 MarvinPA: ^ fixes the compilation error in beam.cc but libunix.cc fails to compile for me right now 15:26:16 was gonna say worked here but I managed to pull just after you committed the fix 15:26:32 libunix.cc is fine but I'm on Linux 15:26:36 so am i 15:27:09 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 15:27:34 geekosaur: here's my gcc --version - do we expect it to work? gcc (Ubuntu 4.8.4-2ubuntu1~14.04.3) 4.8.4 15:28:00 oh, no idea, I do clang 3.6 on mint 15:28:20 it looks like the problem is probably failing to include some header? https://gist.github.com/anonymous/0bd568cc23ed34f43966876da8956ad0 15:28:30 -!- bgiannan has joined ##crawl-dev 15:29:06 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.20-a0-179-ga951d0f: Replace High Council with Folly in a guarded unrand vault instead (minmay) 10(13 minutes ago, 1 file, 25+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a951d0f65d22 15:29:17 either missing ncurses include or getting the non-wchar one 15:29:26 although I thought they had unified them... 15:29:31 (on debian/ubuntu) 15:29:44 hm, works for me on newer gcc (6.2.0) 15:31:49 oh i recognise that error though, i did have that in the past and it was a weird ncurses thing 15:32:22 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10298 possibly this? 15:32:38 i guess i probably updated something without realising and that fixed it 15:34:53 -!- bgiannan has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:36:30 -!- bgiannan has joined ##crawl-dev 15:38:22 -!- Cheibrodos has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:42:25 -!- ldf has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:42:55 -!- _Jordan_ has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 15:48:29 -!- Guaxinim has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:53:38 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 16:00:07 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:03:50 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:06:30 -!- Shinino_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:07:07 -!- Patashu__ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 16:09:19 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.20-a0-179-ga951d0f (34) 16:10:26 i should probably be compiling on some VM rather than on my real google workstation anyway, and maybe the VM won't have the problem 16:13:38 -!- ilyak has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 16:14:46 <|amethyst> amalloy: do you have libncursesw5-dev installed? 16:15:50 aha, that's what it was. i had libncurses5-dev, but not libncursesw5-dev 16:17:19 all builds and runs fine now 16:18:09 ??mottled 16:18:09 I don't have a page labeled mottled in my learndb. 16:18:12 ??mottled draconian 16:18:12 mottled draconian[1/1]: A form of draconians that can spit sticky flame (range 1, can splash onto adjacent monsters). Player character gets +1 aptitude in Fire Magic. Also has sticky flame resistance at xl 7. 16:18:36 !learn edit mottled draconian s/7./7. Removed in 0.20./ 16:18:37 mottled draconian[1/1]: A form of draconians that can spit sticky flame (range 1, can splash onto adjacent monsters). Player character gets +1 aptitude in Fire Magic. Also has sticky flame resistance at xl 7. Removed in 0.20. 16:18:56 <|amethyst> hmm 16:19:01 <|amethyst> ??black draconian 16:19:02 black draconian[1/1]: A form of draconian that is able to shoot lightning. The player race's breath sneezes lightning bolts and explosions in random directions. 2 Air Magic aptitude, and -2 Earth Magic aptitude. Resists electricity at XL 7, and gains permanent flight at XL 14. 16:19:22 <|amethyst> !learn edit mottled_draconian[1] s/form of draconians/form of draconian/ 16:19:22 mottled draconian[1/1]: A form of draconian that can spit sticky flame (range 1, can splash onto adjacent monsters). Player character gets +1 aptitude in Fire Magic. Also has sticky flame resistance at xl 7. Removed in 0.20. 16:19:25 <|amethyst> !learn edit red_draconian[1] s/form of draconians/form of draconian/ 16:19:25 red draconian[1/1]: A form of draconian with a fiery breath that leaves a flame cloud. Player character gets +2! aptitude in Fire magic, and -2 in Ice magic. Resists fire at xl 7. In dragon form they get rF++, rC-. 16:19:39 <|amethyst> !learn edit white_draconian[1] s/form of draconians/form of draconian/ 16:19:39 white draconian[1/1]: A form of draconian with a frost breath that ignores AC and knocks back flying targets. Player character gets +2! aptitude in Ice magic, and -2 in Fire magic. Resists cold at xl 7. In dragon form they get rC++, rF-. 16:19:43 -!- ElanMorin has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.6] 16:19:56 <|amethyst> !learn edit yellow_draconian[1] s/form of draconians/form of draconian/ 16:19:56 yellow draconian[1/1]: A form of draconian that can spit acid (which has halved cooldown compared to most other breath weapons, and corrodes armour.) Player character gets no unique aptitudes. Gains rCorr at XL 7. Gets an acidic bite at XL 14. 16:20:30 <|amethyst> !learn edit purple_draconian[1] s/form of draconians/form of draconian/ 16:20:30 purple draconian[1/1]: A form of draconian that has an affinity for spellcasting. Player character gets +1 aptitude in Spellcasting/Charms/Hexes/Evocations, and higher magic resistance than other draconians. Breath weapon is a bolt that dispels buffs. 16:20:33 <|amethyst> !learn edit pale_draconian[1] s/form of draconians/form of draconian/ 16:20:33 pale draconian[1/1]: A form of draconian that is able to breathe steam. Player character gets +1 aptitude in Air and Fire magic, +1 aptitude in evocations, and steam resistance. 16:20:54 !learn edit yellow_draconian[1] s/$/ In 0.20, their acid spit is short range and splashes./ 16:20:55 yellow draconian[1/1]: A form of draconian that can spit acid (which has halved cooldown compared to most other breath weapons, and corrodes armour.) Player character gets no unique aptitudes. Gains rCorr at XL 7. Gets an acidic bite at XL 14. In 0.20, their acid spit is short range and splashes. 16:22:23 !learn edit draconian_zealot s/$/Removed in 0.20./ 16:22:23 draconian zealot[1/1]: One of the higher priority nonbase draconians: amongside the tweaked orc high priest spell set (twisted instead of animate), also has hellfire burst.Removed in 0.20. 16:22:33 <|amethyst> Brannock: hm, I'd put that closer to the front without the "In 0.20", then at the end say "Prior to 0.20, ..." 16:22:34 !learn edit draconian_zealot s/t.R/t. R/ 16:22:35 draconian zealot[1/1]: One of the higher priority nonbase draconians: amongside the tweaked orc high priest spell set (twisted instead of animate), also has hellfire burst. Removed in 0.20. 16:22:38 Hmm, maybe 16:22:46 is sequell meant to be for latest release, or current trunk? 16:22:50 learndb, I mean 16:23:15 <|amethyst> hm 16:23:57 <|amethyst> !lg * today s=cv 16:23:57 No keyword 'today' 16:23:59 !learn add draconian_stormcaller Smites, summons drakes, and casts Upheaval on the player. 16:23:59 draconian stormcaller[1/1]: Smites, summons drakes, and casts Upheaval on the player. 16:24:10 no one bothered making a draconian caller entry, eh 16:24:11 <|amethyst> !lg * rstart>20161021 s=cv 16:24:12 9363 games for * (rstart>20161021): 6006x 0.19, 3179x 0.20-a, 132x 0.18, 25x 0.17, 6x 0.14, 4x 0.13, 4x 0.15, 3x 0.16, 3x 0.10, 0.19-a 16:24:28 <|amethyst> !lg * rstart>20160519 rstart<20160619 s=cv 16:24:30 127473 games for * (rstart>20160519 rstart<20160619): 87452x 0.19-a, 38700x 0.18, 857x 0.17, 107x 0.16, 104x 0.15, 81x 0.13, 76x 0.12, 43x 0.14, 23x 0.10, 16x 0.11, 13x 0.20-a, 16:25:19 <|amethyst> looks like in normal times (not a couple days after the tournament) there are more online trunk players than stable 16:25:29 <|amethyst> so I'd go for trunk in Sequell 16:25:33 I don't know how many offline players access learndb... 16:25:53 <|amethyst> My guess is that more of those use the wiki 16:25:56 <|amethyst> because it is easier to find in google 16:26:01 probably, yeah 16:26:21 <|amethyst> of course... 16:26:37 <|amethyst> the wiki page for Draconian starts with: Version 0.13: This article may not be up to date for the latest stable release of Crawl. 16:26:40 lol 16:27:22 <|amethyst> not sure how much they were changed from 0.13 to 0.19 though 16:27:44 <|amethyst> I do have an account and can edit things, but that's meh 16:28:29 <|amethyst> If I wanted to revise documentation all day, I'd certainly ask to be paid for it :) 16:29:17 <|amethyst> most pages seem to be up-to-date for 0.18, though they might be wrong in places 16:29:53 <|amethyst> and some are updated/verified for 0.19 already 16:30:20 <|amethyst> oh, that reminds me 16:30:45 <|amethyst> The Kiku page is wrong (says you'll always get Animate Dead) 16:31:02 <|amethyst> I guess I'll edit that 16:35:09 someone has to 16:35:21 SteelNeuron, https://www.reddit.com/r/dcss/comments/5eb4o2/new_high_council_branch_on_berotato/ some feedback on Ieoh Jian 16:36:11 SteelNeuron: what are I's active abilities, btw 16:36:15 and what color do they talk in 16:39:23 hmm, I don't know about I speaking in red 16:40:16 ontoclasm, abilities: Project Weapon (throw weapon at enemy and animate it), Recall Weapon (bring it back), Steel Dragonfly Technique (throw *all* the weapons floatin garound you) 16:40:23 SteelNeuron, I think "Steel Dragonfly Technique" is too purple 16:40:49 <|amethyst> Sounds like a martial arts anime :/ 16:41:22 <|amethyst> OTOH, I guess that's kind of the god's theme? 16:41:38 It is. I'm still unsure about it 16:41:44 It feels like a god that easily overwhelms the rest of the player's build 16:41:47 I'm testing it out right now 16:41:55 Will have better feedback once I actually use it 16:42:19 Ieoh Jian also has a *lot* of passives 16:42:44 <|amethyst> do dragonflies actually gang up on larger opponents? 16:43:07 <|amethyst> Steel Swarm might be just as evocative 16:43:13 <|amethyst> and certainly shorter 16:43:20 All combat skills crosstrain at a very high rate, you'll occasionally manifest animated weapons, each weapon type has an unique passive attack type (lunge, whirlwind, etc), switching weapons leaves a "distracting afterimage" of yourself, you can hit pressure points as you attack while moving... 16:43:24 that's on top of the 3 activated abilities 16:44:14 you switch and auto-wield animated weapons that you walk onto 16:44:22 <|amethyst> hm, what are the conducts? 16:44:30 killing things 16:44:34 <|amethyst> I mean 16:44:41 <|amethyst> is there anything you're prevented from doing? 16:44:44 Nope 16:45:08 shields 16:45:16 the cross-training and instant weapon swapping is a neat idea 16:45:21 unsure about everything else, and there's a lot of it 16:45:47 yeah this sounds like way too much stuff, frankly 16:45:58 consider that your average existing god has like 16:46:02 3, maybe 4 Things 16:46:11 <|amethyst> more than that 16:46:17 at least it'll be easy to cut IJC down 16:46:30 to the truly good stuff 16:46:46 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 16:46:47 The build has errored. (master - fa64ebb #7221 : Isaac Sloat): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/178087907 16:46:47 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 16:46:49 nemelex georg, who has 10,000 things, is an outlier adn should not have been counted 16:47:10 I did a fulldebug compile locally and it went fine 16:47:11 weird 16:47:13 let's see what's wrong 16:47:33 <|amethyst> it's probably a test failure 16:48:03 <|amethyst> yeah, crashed in random_draconian_job when placing a monster 16:48:06 damnit 16:48:32 weird, I specifically tested the shit out of that 16:48:43 <|amethyst> hm 16:48:56 locally I'm looking at Zot monster lists and I don't see mottled or zealots/callers anywhere 16:49:03 is it ignoring some conditions and placing them anyway? 16:49:14 <|amethyst> hm, two different crashes it seems 16:49:45 <|amethyst> hm 16:49:47 <|amethyst> a band maybe? 16:50:16 <|amethyst> these actually might be the same crash, one of them (the gcc one) seems to have a truncated crash dump 16:50:52 bands look fine to me in mon-place 16:51:02 <|amethyst> oh 16:51:03 at least, I don't see anything that would call an invalid monster placement 16:51:07 <|amethyst> random_draconian_monster_species 16:51:11 j - the amulet of Vitality (around neck) {Regen+ HP+15} 16:51:13 <|amethyst> const int num_drac = MONS_LAST_SPAWNED_DRACONIAN - MONS_FIRST_BASE_DRACONIAN + 1; 16:51:13 yeyeyeyeyeye 16:51:19 ...wrong chat 16:51:22 :) 16:51:27 forgive my idiocy 16:51:45 |amethyst, there's some weird enum stuff that I had to work around, I used the same strategy back when I removed putrid Ds/chaos champions 16:51:47 -!- sooheon has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:52:24 <|amethyst> oh, I see, the while loop 16:53:36 the build seems to have been fine for when I did it with Ds 16:53:38 but not for Dr? 16:54:11 <|amethyst> Brannock: oh, look at the next function, random_draconian_job 16:54:13 -!- bgiannan has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:54:28 <|amethyst> Brannock: is that really supposed to pick from the same range as random_draconian_monster_species ? 16:54:42 haha 16:54:43 fuck 16:54:46 <|amethyst> Brannock: also, how do you feel about: 16:54:57 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 16:55:10 <|amethyst> Brannock: instead of hardcoding 1, writing const int skip_drac = MONS_MOTTLED_DRACONIAN - MONS_FIRST_BASE_DRACONIAN; 16:55:21 that is much more understandable 16:55:33 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 16:55:53 <|amethyst> Brannock: or, another way to do it 16:55:58 what determines whether i grab a council weapon 16:56:05 <|amethyst> Brannock: which would be more extensible: 16:56:05 can i grab a council weapon to get rid of this cursed -3 long sword 16:56:32 <|amethyst> Brannock: check whether the monster type in question has mons_species(type) == MONS_PROGRAM_BUG 16:56:59 <|amethyst> Brannock: might be simpler to use random_range() too rather than subtracting and re-adding 16:57:44 how would random_range be used? 16:58:01 <|amethyst> Brannock: the "species == program bug" check is also what tags.cc does when deciding whether to turn a monster into a ghost, so could be abstracted into a function is_axed_monster() 16:58:27 Ah, good catch 16:58:37 I'll try to write that function 16:58:48 <|amethyst> Brannock: int drac_type = random_range(MONS_FIRST_BASE_DRACONIAN, MONS_LAST_SPAWNED_DRACONIAN); 16:59:53 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:00:23 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 17:01:08 <|amethyst> oh, I guess that should be "mons_class_is_axed" for consistency... not that we're consistent exactly 17:01:27 <|amethyst> mons_is_foo might take a monster_type, might take a const monster&, or might have overloads for both 17:01:57 who in the world put LAST_NONBASE_DEMONSPAWN before LAST_DEMONSPAWN, but LAST_NONBASE_DRACONIAN *after* LAST_DRACONIAN 17:02:24 <|amethyst> possible two different people 17:02:34 I wonder if it'd break anything if I swapped that 17:02:37 Brannock: it doesn't matter 17:02:41 <|amethyst> it would not 17:02:48 <|amethyst> actually, I would even consider 17:02:55 <|amethyst> MONS_LAST_NONBASE_DEMONSPAWN = MONS_BLACK_SUN, 17:03:05 <|amethyst> MONS_LAST_DEMONSPAWN = MONS_LAST_NONBASE_DEMONSPAWN, 17:03:19 Yeah, that's good 17:03:24 <|amethyst> not certain which way is clearer 17:03:57 |amethyst: i prefer your suggestion not because it's clearer, but because it's less prone to accidents if another demonspawn type is added 17:04:03 I agree 17:04:09 although i guess that would cause save compat weirdness either way 17:04:54 hopefully more demonspawn types are not a thing that are likely to happen any time soon :P 17:05:12 wow, negative much... 17:05:47 that reminds me, what do y'all think of https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=22332 17:06:16 Brannock: looks like you didn't add a tracer? 17:06:27 upheaval is smite 17:06:29 minmay: seems reasonable to me 17:06:34 Brannock: you still need a tracer. 17:06:43 -!- jehoesefat has quit [Client Quit] 17:06:51 the tracer flag was so it'd go to the function that checked if it was safe to cast it, ie doesn't blast allies 17:06:53 er, not the part where people think monstrous ds is bad (it isn't) but the part where it's silly that they get claws every time and this isn't clear to unspoiled players 17:07:14 lemme fix the refactor stuff then I'll get on looking at tracers 17:07:19 ah, hm 17:07:29 right, ok 17:07:32 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 17:07:39 have you tested to make sure that they do look out for allies before firing? 17:07:48