00:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:05:12 that's our job 00:05:26 i've probably asked this before 00:05:45 but why did sword of the doom knight get axed? 00:05:50 I have achieved nirvana.... 00:05:52 https://puu.sh/sn8MN/d2f822a691.png 00:05:55 prozac elf: it was boring 00:06:05 lolol 00:06:08 nice 00:06:15 it's a pain branded great sword that prevents castiing 00:06:24 that's its only "gimmick" 00:06:30 ??doom knight 00:06:31 sword of the doom knight[1/1]: +13 great sword. Pain, -Cast, MR+. Perfect switch for a necromancer. 00:06:54 i liked it 00:07:05 zonguldrok was more in flavor, really 00:07:10 I think there's plenty of room for interesting unrands 00:07:26 although basically the only time i ever used necromancy for anything more than support was my first win 00:07:49 CanOfWorms, I am not sure what I'm supposed to be looking at in this screenshot. unless you mean the lining up of three enemies for Piercer to skew? 00:07:54 skewer? 00:08:02 I thought it would be cool if leech was a gsword and doom knight a dblade, but not really worth bringing it back for that 00:08:06 i did use doom knight a fair bit on one of my wins though 00:08:11 I'm qaz, with piercer, and the only space in my LOS is a straight line 00:08:22 I literally just hold tab to clear V:5 00:08:26 also I'm marked 00:08:26 granted, it was a very niche fixed art 00:08:30 not bad 00:08:36 so i can't argue too much 00:08:45 mark status actually isn't too bad if you can properly get yourself into position to exploit it 00:08:49 it's one of the best maluses in the game imho 00:08:52 well 00:09:01 in terms of having interesting gameplay decisions 00:09:01 qaz is pretty much like having mark anyway 00:09:03 =p 00:09:06 gong 00:09:06 BOUMMMMG! 00:09:09 heh 00:09:16 actually, it's not 00:09:28 mark, destroyer of vaults… 00:09:30 if you play a spen it's more noticeable 00:09:32 walls absorb a lot of qaz noise 00:09:38 how do you get 1600 arrows anyway 00:09:43 yaktaurs 00:09:45 centaurs 00:09:55 centaurs and elves 00:09:57 acquire ammo 00:09:59 Jafet: i had 2301 in a 3 rune game a couple days ago 00:10:05 I wonder how much progress lasty made on his ranged rework 00:10:08 i mean, i was mftm 00:10:22 and i had basically stopped casting sticks 2 snakes by the end of lair 00:10:31 would be nice to have that in for 0.20, especially with how many other major changes we have planned for the game's near-20th anniversary 00:10:41 but it's not hard to get a ton even if you're using them 00:11:24 -!- minmay has joined ##crawl-dev 00:11:41 man looking at old screenshots of this game really trips me out 00:11:44 all these memories 00:11:56 everything looks so different.. then you recognize the large shield model sprite 00:12:01 http://speed-new.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/245645634676546345.jpg 00:12:19 lol 00:12:34 wow 00:12:39 03elliptic02 07* 0.20-a0-78-ge188847: Make converting at a faded altar take a turn (qw). 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e18884774fcb 00:12:45 that's before i started playing even i'm pretty sure 00:12:51 unless that's -.8 00:12:55 I started in 0.2, so slightly after stone soup took off 00:12:57 and I don't remember this 00:13:12 03elliptic02 07[stone_soup-0.19] * 0.19.0-23-gf02e663: Make converting at a faded altar take a turn (qw). 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f02e663c5bdc 00:13:13 yeah, i started with 0.8 00:13:13 -!- Awod has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:13:27 i have no freakin clue what those red guys are though 00:13:31 hobgoblins 00:13:37 they look like hobgoblins but tehy're dressed like priests 00:13:43 hahaha 00:13:49 are those scythes? 00:13:58 funky looking spears? 00:14:11 ankuses, clearly 00:14:17 ahhh 00:14:19 lol 00:14:28 no man I'm fucking with you 00:14:34 spawning elephants on D:1? harsh... 00:14:38 the jpeg doesn't help 00:14:39 this is from a version long before ankuses were introduced 00:14:57 http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/flaggedportal.png very good 00:15:00 incidentally, as much as everyone likes to hate on tiles, crawl has some of the best looking tiles around 00:15:03 back before portals were codified 00:15:22 heh 00:15:23 ProzacElf, I've been playing a bunch of C:DDA and its tiles really do not compare to Crawl's 00:15:32 C:DDA? 00:15:38 Cataclysm Dark Days Ahead 00:15:41 zombie survival roguelike 00:15:43 oh 00:15:47 one of the better crafting systems I've ever seen 00:15:47 yeah, i've heard of it 00:15:49 never played it 00:15:52 jazz jackrabbit had great tiles 00:15:55 lol 00:16:25 heh, i tried to play nethack with a tileset once 00:16:35 i was just like "why did you even try?" 00:16:42 if this was the effort you gave 00:16:49 hey now 00:16:55 the incubus tile in nethack is fantastic 00:17:14 lol 00:17:19 that may be true 00:17:32 i didn't exhaustively catalog the tiles 00:17:41 crawl WISHES it had a 3 foot long demon cock 00:17:53 hahaha 00:18:10 i was about to ask if it involved a giant penis 00:18:22 we have eldritch tentacles............ 00:18:22 and yet i didn't even need to ask 00:18:51 i think the nethack tiles were supposed to look like a windows 3.1 game 00:19:16 in that regard they do pretty well 00:19:22 that may be 00:19:29 they do have that kind of feel 00:19:46 doomrl has decent tiles too 00:20:26 like yeah, they're really ugly, but the style is internally consistent and there aren't nonsensical proportions or anything 00:20:26 there are a couple of dwarf fortress tile sets that look nice, but they don't really achieve much beyond bogging down your machine 00:20:39 because they don't convey enough info 00:21:00 yeah, doomrl tiles aren't super pretty but they do their job very well 00:23:13 I'm not saying this out of nowhere either, note the nethack tiles have a total of 29 unique colours 00:27:13 I think undead having weird vulnerabilities long predates squaresoft games, actually 00:27:28 16 if you exclude the background colour and the greyscale versions that were added in 3.6 (are those used for statues or something) 00:27:50 undead having weird vulnerabilities predates the ottoman empire 00:28:01 using petrify with only a gargoyle in sight doesn't bring up the "you can't affect anything" prompt, and targetting it even implies that it will work 00:28:26 rchandra: petrify works on gargoyles, you just cant tell because its already a gargoyle 00:30:13 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:30:28 -!- _Jordan_ has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 00:30:33 wow 00:30:40 this zot oklob vault is pretty obnoxious 00:30:54 s/zot/ 00:30:58 -!- jfcaron has quit [Quit: jfcaron] 00:31:12 did you get acid_trip 00:31:24 !vault acid_trip 00:31:25 Can't find acid_trip. 00:31:28 saying s/zot/ like you've not made oklob vaults 00:31:29 !vault acid_trip_lemuel 00:31:30 Can't find acid_trip_lemuel. 00:31:33 lemuel_acid_trip 00:31:35 !vault lemuel_acid_trip 00:31:35 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/zot.des#L816 00:31:44 it's the one that just has a bunch of plants and they keep growing into oklobs 00:31:47 yeah 00:31:49 that one' sincredibly iconic 00:31:54 well 00:31:55 it's not acid trip 00:31:55 and I will vigorously campaign against removal 00:31:56 there are two 00:32:05 there's acid trip, with all acid stuff 00:32:07 this one has no threats other than oklob plants 00:32:14 then they're the oklob growing vault 00:32:15 and a massive amount of plants 00:32:18 that one is a vault i legitimately do not understand the purpose of 00:32:20 yes, it's probablythat second one 00:33:28 -!- Poncheis has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:33:30 !lg * recent zot !zot:5 kmap!= s=kmap% 00:33:32 294 games for * (recent zot !zot:5 kmap!=): 38x hall_of_Zot (12.93%), 26x hangedman_zot_vaults_quadrants (8.84%), 21x lemuel_acid_trip (7.14%), 21x uniq_tiamat (7.14%), 19x evilmike_ambush (6.46%), 17x lemuel_lake_of_fire (5.78%), 12x grunt_deathspiral_small (4.08%), 11x door_vault (3.74%), 9x lemuel_firehouse (3.06%), 9x grunt_zot_stairs_mandelzot (3.06%), 5x minmay_elemental_castle (1.70%), 5x l... 00:33:35 dammit 00:33:49 !lg * recent zot !zot:5 kmap!= kmap!=hall_of_zot s=kmap% 00:33:49 gammafunk, the challenge hasb een bestowed 00:33:49 256 games for * (recent zot !zot:5 kmap!= kmap!=hall_of_zot): 26x hangedman_zot_vaults_quadrants (10.16%), 21x uniq_tiamat (8.20%), 21x lemuel_acid_trip (8.20%), 19x evilmike_ambush (7.42%), 17x lemuel_lake_of_fire (6.64%), 12x grunt_deathspiral_small (4.69%), 11x door_vault (4.30%), 9x grunt_zot_stairs_mandelzot (3.52%), 9x lemuel_firehouse (3.52%), 5x minmay_elemental_castle (1.95%), 5x zot_mini... 00:34:02 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:34:03 can you create a lethal zot vault?? 00:34:28 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 00:34:41 no 00:34:46 it's a bit tough since I can't use "out of depth" things 00:34:59 how do people die in elemental castle 00:35:16 "mandelzot" is a great name 00:35:23 !vault minmay_elemental_castle 00:35:24 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/zot.des#L960 00:35:33 brannock: a zot vault with all 3 staircases, surrounded by orbs of fire 00:35:50 # 50% electricity, 25% fire, 25% ice 00:35:52 isn't that just lake of fire 00:35:55 already exists 00:35:56 finally, actual percentages 00:36:24 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:36:44 I'm going to hazard a guess that shard shrike was not a minmay addition to this vault 00:36:54 but that's probably how they die in it 00:36:55 that vault was made in 0.6 so you figure it out 00:37:14 it does seem like a lot more vaults creativity comes out in Lair than anywhere else deeper in the dungeon 00:37:28 Brannock: I don't think that's true 00:37:34 recently I mean 00:37:50 maybe I'm skewed from watching additions to Lair since I've been inducted 00:37:51 well, I think you might be conflating creativity with 'can kill you' 00:38:02 it's just way easier to kill people in Lair than it is later on 00:38:19 well I think a lot of the wizlabs and certain depths/zot vaults are extremely creative 00:38:24 and also way easer to kill them in earlier dungeon than it is in lair 00:38:28 they're just fairly older by this point 00:38:45 yeah you'd have to define what you mean by "creative", that's kind of hard to nail down, exactly 00:38:58 some would just say wizlabs are full of relatively ineffective gimmicks 00:39:19 acid trip, haunted forest, moon base are some of my faovriest hat come to mind right away 00:39:50 -!- FIQ has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 00:40:44 once I add better teleporters, you're going to love the creativity 00:40:46 just love it 00:40:55 and minmay will want to use it in all his vaults, of course 00:40:57 i still cant believe ampersand singles was a real thing in the 80s. i thought it was a top 10 joke of mine 00:41:06 a teleporter in every coctagon, just wait 00:41:27 watery temple and that one in depths 00:41:32 with all the spriggan air mages on the water 00:41:40 i forget, did someone add minmay_titanic at any point 00:41:47 !vault minmay_titanic 00:41:48 Can't find minmay_titanic. 00:41:58 gammafunk_depths_water_palace 00:42:09 after that lair end I have to forbid myself from making any more water vaults 00:42:24 gammafunk, you should instead focus on making wizlab cloud mage better 00:42:36 well, that's actually one of the cooler ones! 00:42:48 it's very cool but could be more challenging 00:42:53 I like cloud mage a lot 00:42:54 actually 00:42:58 yeah they probably could all be that 00:43:00 I think hellbinder is probably the worst wizlab 00:43:01 more challenging, I mean 00:43:15 hrm 00:43:29 desolation shows up the same likelihood as wizlab? 00:43:52 !lm * vlong>=0.19-b1 s=cv 00:43:57 828917 milestones for * (vlong>=0.19-b1): 565278x 0.19, 221099x 0.20-a, 42540x 0.19-a 00:44:08 !lm * vlong>=0.19-b1 cv<=0.19 s=cv 00:44:08 830 thousand seems like a lot 00:44:10 607818 milestones for * (vlong>=0.19-b1 cv<=0.19): 565278x 0.19, 42540x 0.19-a 00:44:14 how many times has crawl been played? 00:44:20 millions 00:44:28 if you count online only 00:44:43 there's a historical playerbase of like 50 to 70 thousand? 00:44:44 definitely a good amount of times 00:45:04 !lm * vlong>=0.19-b1 cv<=0.19 s=cv br.enter=wizlab|desolation s=noun% 00:45:05 Too many grouping terms (extra: s=noun%) 00:45:16 !lm * vlong>=0.19-b1 cv<=0.19 br.enter=wizlab|desolation s=noun% 00:45:23 1155 milestones for * (vlong>=0.19-b1 cv<=0.19 br.enter=wizlab|desolation): 724x WizLab (62.68%), 431x Desolation (37.32%) 00:45:34 hrm, I wonder if it places less frequently 00:45:44 -!- destroythecore has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:46:26 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:47:33 -!- rchandra has left ##crawl-dev 00:54:36 wow 00:54:42 I had an amazing zot 5 death 00:55:51 should have drank cancellation 00:56:16 ..you died? 00:56:19 !lg wormsofcan 00:56:20 51. wormsofcan the Grand Gadgeteer (L27 KoHu of Pakellas), escaped with the Orb and 6 runes on 2016-09-21 22:19:37, with 3058795 points after 116233 turns and 8:13:16. 00:56:25 gammafunk: indeed 00:56:27 rip 00:56:32 there goes your splatratio 00:56:39 teleported into a lung, confused 00:57:04 !lg canofworms 00:57:05 152. wormsofcant the End of an Era (L27 DrAE of Qazlal), mangled by a death cob on Zot:5 (hall_of_Zot) on 2016-11-19 05:54:31, with 708758 points after 96036 turns and 5:58:53. 00:57:12 !lg canofworms -tv:<2 00:57:13 152. wormsofcant, XL27 DrAE, T:96036 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 00:57:15 oh hey, it works 00:57:17 whoo 00:57:27 doh 00:57:36 hrm 00:57:41 !lg canofworms -ttyrec 00:57:43 152. wormsofcant, XL27 DrAE, T:96036: https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/ttyrec/wormsofcant/ 2016-11-18.07:19:39.ttyrec.bz2 2016-11-18.07:21:01.ttyrec.bz2 2016-11-18.08:06:26.ttyrec.bz2 2016-11-18.08:07:24.ttyrec.bz2 2016-11-18.20:21:34.ttyrec.bz2 2016-11-18.20:24:40.ttyrec.bz2 2016-11-18.20:27:20.ttyrec.bz2 2016-11-18.20:33:32.ttyrec.bz2 2016-11-18.20:50:55.ttyrec.bz2 2016-11-19.02:34:02.ttyrec 2016-11-... 00:57:57 !lm canofworms zot -ttyrec 00:57:58 111. wormsofcant, XL27 DrAE, T:95995 (milestone): https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/ttyrec/wormsofcant/2016-11-19.05:11:10.ttyrec 00:58:21 ZiBuDo: wormsofcant is getting 404 on ttyrec urls 00:58:28 ZiBuDo: for 0.19 on cjr 00:58:34 .splatratio 00:58:35 % of xl17 chars killed recentish: 1/7x wormsofcan [14.29%], 12/34x wormsofcant [35.29%] 00:58:49 !lg 00:58:50 152. wormsofcant the End of an Era (L27 DrAE of Qazlal), mangled by a death cob on Zot:5 (hall_of_Zot) on 2016-11-19 05:54:31, with 708758 points after 96036 turns and 5:58:53. 00:59:05 0.19 got all the servers updated a few hours ago, thankfully 00:59:11 now we can see proper tstats 01:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:01:54 -!- sooheon has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:02:28 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:02:46 -!- Idolo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:05:46 -!- Kalir has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:07:11 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 01:09:55 Stable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19.0-23-gf02e663 (34) 01:10:05 Stable (0.19) branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19.0-23-gf02e663 01:11:37 !tell ZiBuDo: wormsofcant is getting 404 on ttyrec urls, which you can see from his recent DrAE^Qaz 01:11:38 Sorry gammafunk, I don't know who zibudo: is. 01:11:42 !tell ZiBuDo wormsofcant is getting 404 on ttyrec urls, which you can see from his recent DrAE^Qaz 01:11:42 gammafunk: OK, I'll let zibudo know. 01:17:26 -!- PsyMar has quit [Quit: witty quit message goes here] 01:18:28 for ash.... ashen... for that curse god, is it the same to curse two handed as it is shield + wep? 01:19:44 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.20-a0-78-ge188847 (34) 01:20:07 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.20-a0-78-ge188847 (34) 01:24:15 ok 01:24:15 ZiBuDo: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 01:24:20 !messages 01:24:20 (1/1) gammafunk said (12m 38s ago): wormsofcant is getting 404 on ttyrec urls, which you can see from his recent DrAE^Qaz 01:25:54 hmm 01:26:03 looks like dowan and duvessa still talk even if you petrify them... 01:26:23 https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/ttyrec/ 01:26:31 is that not working? 01:26:35 https://puu.sh/snbXX/60342575e0.png 01:27:23 -!- Cacophony has quit [Quit: oh no am scare] 01:27:29 gammafunk: https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/ttyrec/ is this broken 404? 01:27:58 no that base url is fine 01:28:07 !lm canofworms zot -ttyrec 01:28:08 111. wormsofcant, XL27 DrAE, T:95995 (milestone): https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/ttyrec/wormsofcant/2016-11-19.05:11:10.ttyrec 01:28:09 what is the 404 on? 01:28:14 on that 01:28:22 that worked for me ? 01:28:31 oh, it didn't at the time 01:28:37 yea gotta wait an hour 01:28:40 i think 01:28:42 oh, an hour? 01:28:42 for it to compress 01:28:50 yea around that time 01:28:53 hrm, I see 01:29:06 i dont let it dl w/o compression 01:29:07 is it some kind of crontab or something? 01:29:13 i think this was a thing before 01:29:25 and this is just a different manifestation of the same cause 01:29:37 yeah, it's a little unfortunate to have to wait so long, but as long as they're eventually availble 01:30:00 i could update the script time 01:30:16 yeah, I dunno what other servers do 01:30:43 yea this was just the regular old gruide settings 01:30:57 they probably just allow uncompressed download, or something 01:31:10 which if you don't want that for bandwidth reasons, we'll just have to wait 01:31:22 !lg canofworms 01:31:23 152. wormsofcant the End of an Era (L27 DrAE of Qazlal), mangled by a death cob on Zot:5 (hall_of_Zot) on 2016-11-19 05:54:31, with 708758 points after 96036 turns and 5:58:53. 01:31:31 !lg canofworms -tv:<2 01:31:32 152. wormsofcant, XL27 DrAE, T:96036 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 01:31:42 weird 01:31:56 oh, it thinks the ttyrec is corrupted on footv 01:32:12 that might be since it doesn't have a gz extension, or something 01:32:29 !lm . cbro -ttyrec 01:32:31 1484. gammafunk, XL19 DrCK, T:51650 (milestone): http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/ttyrec/gammafunk/2016-11-19.00:19:47.ttyrec 01:32:47 yeah, I bet cbro gzips them later 01:32:50 !lm . muwz -ttryec 01:32:51 Unknown option: ttryec 01:32:56 !lm . muwz -ttyrec 01:32:56 No milestones for gammafunk (muwz). 01:33:10 !lm . muvm -ttyrec 01:33:11 24. gammafunk, XL15 MuVM, T:34877 (milestone): http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/ttyrec/gammafunk/2016-11-18.00:25:39.ttyrec.bz2 01:33:17 yeah 01:33:52 ZiBuDo: could you make the urls have an extension based on how they're compressed? 01:34:04 e.g. .gz or .bz2 based on whichever they are 01:34:08 I think that would fix footv 01:35:34 me too 01:36:07 hmm 01:36:39 so mine dont work if u add the .bz2 01:37:21 gammafunk: i think they do tho? am i wrong? 01:37:26 https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/ttyrec/Belmerrick/2016-11-12.06:13:54.ttyrec.bz2 01:37:37 ZiBuDo: oh, but sequell is seeing the sans-bz2 urls 01:37:47 so that sounds like a thing we need to change in sequell, maybe 01:37:50 let me go check out the config 01:38:08 lemme know if i need to change anything 01:38:12 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 01:40:43 ok, thanks 01:42:18 -!- mong has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:42:34 -!- twelwe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:45:42 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:46:22 speaking of server-specific stuff, is this on my side or the server side? In my browser, cszo/cao morgues are opened as utf-8 while cjr/cbro morgues are opened as western 01:46:40 !lg * t gr-- cao -log 01:46:43 1056. nithck, XL4 GrMo, T:2344: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/nithck/morgue-nithck-20161119-062154.txt 01:46:45 !lg * t gr-- cbro -log 01:46:48 2012. GlenndL, XL5 GrGl, T:1526: http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/GlenndL/morgue-GlenndL-20161119-064434.txt 01:48:17 -!- windowmaker has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:48:22 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Changing host] 01:48:46 that's probably something that needs changing in apache 01:48:50 on cbro/cjr's side 01:49:23 what's up? 01:49:40 oh. that's something |amethyst always tells me I need to do 01:49:44 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 01:51:33 gammafunk: ahh thanks 01:52:08 gammafunk, compress-ttyrecs script runs a few times a day 01:52:30 yeah 01:52:36 but you still server uncompressed 01:52:38 *serve 01:52:53 cjr does not, I think for bandwidth reasons? 01:53:07 although I doubt it's all that much bandwidth in the end 01:53:13 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:53:39 oh, maybe it's also something about how cjr does storage, not sure 01:53:49 it just means you need to wait a while to be able to watch your ttyrecs on cjr 01:56:09 oh. weird. yea, I only serve what's there, either compressed or uncompressed. it was kind of annoying to set that up if I recall correctly 01:56:52 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.20-a0-78-ge188847 01:57:20 gammafunk, http://pastebin.com/EXvrxNrR 01:57:32 I think that's the relevant bit 01:58:03 ??dgl[2 01:58:03 dgl[2/4]: https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:server:setting_up_dgamelaunch_and_webtiles 01:58:40 and looks like that info is in the setup 01:59:08 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Changing host] 02:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:01:51 -!- sooheon has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:03:28 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:04:05 -!- protopulse has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:06:01 johnstein: that's the part that rewrites to .bz2 if the file is missing, yeah 02:06:46 ZiBuDo: do you have the blurb johnstein mentioned above in your apache config? 02:06:50 or are you doing that another way 02:07:11 if you issued a rewrite like that...I dunno if that changes the url so that footv would see it 02:07:40 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 02:08:34 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:08:37 -!- Pacra_ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:10:58 -!- Kenran has joined ##crawl-dev 02:12:21 gammafunk: yea 02:12:32 i can check tomorrow 02:12:39 i gotta go to bed atm, but it might be it 02:25:34 -!- mong has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:26:23 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 02:31:52 -!- Pacra_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:32:11 -!- Pacra_ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:38:05 -!- ZiBuDo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:46:29 It 02:46:35 probably shouldn't be possible for iron giants to throw orbs of destruction 02:54:00 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.20-a0-78-ge188847 02:54:56 they're pretty swol tho 02:55:51 -!- bgiannan_ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:58:45 iron grenadiers 02:59:20 just add a vault with iron giants and orb spiders 03:00:02 -!- Zxpr1jk has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:01:56 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:05:22 -!- _Jordan_ has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 03:09:28 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 03:22:19 Stable (0.19) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.19.0-23-gf02e663 03:23:18 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 03:28:18 -!- Poncheis has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:29:52 -!- vale_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:33:06 !time 03:33:06 Time: Nov 19, 2016, 08:33:05 AM, UTC. The 2016 0.19 tournament ends in 1 day, 11 hours, 26 minutes and 54 seconds. 03:35:16 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.20-a0-78-ge188847 (34) 03:36:20 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:45:32 03gammafunk02 07* 0.20-a0-79-ge854f58: Clean up some ecumenical altar vaults 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 14+ 12-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e854f580fb17 03:46:20 Brannock: just walked into LOS of 4 dream sheep and a komodo dragon on lair:$. went from 106/106 to 28/106 in one turn. thought you'd be pleased 03:51:20 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:58:29 you owe it to him to lose the final 28 hp 04:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:02:02 sadly i am ^fedhas 04:02:07 so it is impossible to die 04:04:26 -!- Poncheis has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:09:29 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.20-a0-79-ge854f58 (34) 04:10:58 -!- bgiannan_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:17:25 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 04:19:06 -!- scotchmint has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:19:47 -!- Pacra_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:20:07 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 04:20:51 -!- Luca_Blight has quit [] 04:30:34 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:35:40 -!- Ge0ff has quit [Client Quit] 04:35:45 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 04:38:19 !lairendkills t lairtemple 04:38:21 Lair End kills (t lairtemple): 58x gammafunk_lair_ancient_temple (19.59%), 54x evil_forest (18.24%), 36x cheibrodos_lair_end_hotspot (12.16%), 27x evilmike_catoblepas_cave (9.12%), 23x hangedman_lair_tendril_chambers (7.77%), 19x wormcave (6.42%), 18x grunt_lair_end_beastmaster (6.08%), 17x minmay_lair_end_enchanted_forest (5.74%), 15x minmay_lair_end_frog_pond (5.07%), 14x guppyfry_lair_end_drago... 04:38:40 !lg * t kmap~~ancient_temple s=cikiller% 04:38:41 58 games for * (t kmap~~ancient_temple): 14x a hydra (24.14%), 8x a dire elephant (13.79%), 7x a wind drake (12.07%), 7x a rime drake (12.07%), 6x a komodo dragon (10.34%), 6x a manticore (10.34%), 4x a harpy (6.90%), 3x a hornet (5.17%), 2x a spiny frog (3.45%), a sea snake (1.72%) 04:57:27 -!- Beef-Takeout has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:25:01 -!- bgiannan_ has joined ##crawl-dev 05:37:39 -!- sooheon has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:40:26 -!- joy1999 has quit [Quit: Http://www.ZeroIRC.NET ¢Æ Zero IRC ¢Æ Ver 2.9G] 05:52:43 -!- bgiannan_ has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 06:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:10:57 wind drakes killing things -- something's not right 06:25:03 -!- Patashu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 06:25:16 !nchoice 06:25:18 Time for a new nchoice! It will appear shortly on the tournament website (if it hasn't yet). Type "=nemelex XXXX" to update !nchoice with the new combo, where XXXX should be replaced by the new combo. 06:25:28 !kw nchoice 06:25:29 Keyword: nchoice => OpWr|HEAr|KoIE|DDAE|CeVM|HOWz|GrEn|GhCj|FeAK|VSSu|DEHu|VpAK|HaSu|TeAM|SpMo|FoCj|MfEE|TrVM|DDSk|HaFE|VSAM|HOTm|GhBe|SpAE|DECK|DDIE|TeAK|VpEE 06:25:36 =nemelex FoNe 06:25:38 Defined keyword: nchoice => OpWr|HEAr|KoIE|DDAE|CeVM|HOWz|GrEn|GhCj|FeAK|VSSu|DEHu|VpAK|HaSu|TeAM|SpMo|FoCj|MfEE|TrVM|DDSk|HaFE|VSAM|HOTm|GhBe|SpAE|DECK|DDIE|TeAK|VpEE|FoNe 06:31:43 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 06:33:25 -!- Lasty has quit [Client Quit] 06:37:15 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 06:39:48 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:40:45 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 06:50:44 -!- frd has quit [Quit: leaving] 06:58:01 -!- bgiannan_ has joined ##crawl-dev 06:58:36 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:02:28 -!- TuxQmoob has quit 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spell library, and now the thread is of course just about trog book burning 08:05:27 MarvinPA: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 08:06:17 -!- MarvinPA_ has quit [Client Quit] 08:06:52 -!- nezrel| has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:11:26 -!- bgiannan has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 08:15:42 Stable (0.19) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.19.0-23-gf02e663 08:17:22 -!- ilyak has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 08:17:28 New branch created: better_badforms (11 commits) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/tree/better_badforms 08:17:28 03MarvinPA02 07[better_badforms] * 0.20-a0-74-g0f7b4a5: Don't make wispform sometimes move unreliably 10(3 days ago, 1 file, 0+ 14-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0f7b4a532a69 08:17:28 03MarvinPA02 07[better_badforms] * 0.20-a0-75-g89c51e0: Remove porcupine form 10(2 days ago, 9 files, 24+ 17-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/89c51e092264 08:17:28 03MarvinPA02 07[better_badforms] * 0.20-a0-76-gaa6bf2c: Simplify batform melee attacks 10(2 days ago, 4 files, 1+ 18-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/aa6bf2c414e4 08:17:28 03MarvinPA02 07[better_badforms] * 0.20-a0-77-gaddb059: Don't allow Vampires to be batformed by polymorph effects 10(2 days ago, 2 files, 11+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/addb0590f5cb 08:17:28 03MarvinPA02 07[better_badforms] * 0.20-a0-78-gb9f6b68: Make non-weapon-wielding badforms consistently use XL instead of UC for attacks 10(2 days ago, 2 files, 3+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b9f6b68c714e 08:17:28 03MarvinPA02 07[better_badforms] * 0.20-a0-79-g8bc594b: Remove the small chance of hostile polymorph picking a "good" form 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 5+ 12-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8bc594b5f283 08:17:28 03MarvinPA02 07[better_badforms] * 0.20-a0-80-gccbfc69: De-duplicate some spellcasting checks 10(2 days ago, 3 files, 24+ 20-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ccbfc69ad8f2 08:17:28 03MarvinPA02 07[better_badforms] * 0.20-a0-81-g02055b5: Let wispform evoke (non-wand) evokables 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 0+ 7-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/02055b5e5e34 08:17:28 03MarvinPA02 07[better_badforms] * 0.20-a0-82-gab10212: Tweak a transformation message 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ab102124f41a 08:17:28 03MarvinPA02 07[better_badforms] * 0.20-a0-83-gabc24aa: Let fungus form wear all helmets 10(15 hours ago, 1 file, 0+ 16-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/abc24aae8b7d 08:17:28 03MarvinPA02 07[better_badforms] * 0.20-a0-84-gb157db6: Add form descriptions to status lookup (?/T) 10(2 days ago, 3 files, 202+ 23-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b157db6782e9 08:23:48 -!- CrawlWall has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:36:08 03MarvinPA02 07[better_badforms] * 0.20-a0-85-g0461457: Add missing appendage description 10(49 seconds ago, 2 files, 25+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0461457f5c7f 08:38:38 it's a commitnado 08:55:27 the terrifying result of "hey, i guess someone should document what all the forms do somewhere" 08:56:35 @??komodo dragon 08:56:35 komodo dragon (04l) | Spd: 10 (swim: 60%) | HD: 8 | HP: 33-52 | AC/EV: 7/8 | Dam: 34 | amphibious, cold-blooded | Res: 06magic(40), 12drown | XP: 360 | Sz: Large | Int: animal. 08:58:28 -!- bgiannan_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:04:05 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 09:04:06 The build passed. (better_badforms - b157db6 #7185 : Chris Campbell): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/177257993 09:04:06 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 09:10:31 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:15:20 -!- bgiannan_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:22:25 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 09:25:27 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:26:12 -!- protopulse has joined ##crawl-dev 09:31:19 -!- insecticide17 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:32:19 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 09:34:30 -!- Lasty has quit [Client Quit] 09:39:03 -!- Patashu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:42:35 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 09:42:36 The build passed. (better_badforms - 0461457 #7186 : Chris Campbell): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/177260167 09:42:36 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 09:44:01 <|amethyst> hm 09:45:30 <|amethyst> I just gained a level in the middle of autoexplore with explore_delay = -1, and the view wasn't redrawn so the view area is black 09:48:49 <|amethyst> also, the chunk eating time change seems like a significant ghoul buff? 09:51:35 -!- Bammboo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:53:59 -!- bgiannan_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:54:38 -!- ilyak has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:56:26 -!- SteelNeuron has joined ##crawl-dev 10:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:00:05 -!- bgiannan_ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:12:45 I didn't know chunk eating time was changed, what was the change? 10:13:06 <|amethyst> %git cff654f 10:13:06 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.19-a0-1907-gcff654f: Make chunks take 1 turn to eat (minmay) 10(4 weeks ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/cff654f3ffea 10:13:09 eating chunks in combat on a ghoul used to be pretty bad so buffing that seems okay 10:13:28 <|amethyst> it's nice now because there's no delay 10:13:38 <|amethyst> so you get the HP before monsters swing 10:13:46 it is very good yeah 10:13:48 <|amethyst> they're essentially curing potions 10:13:53 it feels weird to me that some food takes more than 1 turn though 10:14:15 since it means that even if you have tons of rations, you will want to make sure you have chunks on hand for speedy eating 10:14:17 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 10:14:23 <|amethyst> yeah, IMO that should go now, chunks were the ones where it was important to be slow 10:14:44 <|amethyst> then we can condense the list the pizza, bread, meat, fruit 10:14:49 <|amethyst> s/the p/to p/ 10:15:12 yeah that would be good too 10:15:17 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:15:27 add a beef jerky pizza flavour :p 10:15:58 -!- Lasty has quit [Client Quit] 10:17:26 <|amethyst> actually, what about 10:17:29 <|amethyst> just rations and chunks 10:17:45 <|amethyst> 1. herbivores get more nutrition from rations, can't eat chunks 10:18:15 <|amethyst> 2. carnivores get half nutrition from rations (rather than only being able to eat half of them), and extra from chunks as now 10:18:23 there is fedhas and spriggans to think about of course 10:18:27 <|amethyst> 3. fedhas uses rations 10:19:33 <|amethyst> hm, maybe herbivores should not get more nutrition from rations, since this would double the number of spawned rations that they can eat 10:20:40 something like that sounds reasonable, but we should probably still do the simpler reduction (to bread meat pizza fruit or bread meat honey fruit) first 10:20:55 -!- Pacra_ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:20:58 <|amethyst> we could keep flavor by having rations get different descriptions 10:21:03 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:21:13 <|amethyst> so a "pizza" or "honeycomb" would just be a vault-renamed ration 10:21:22 <|amethyst> or "tomato" 10:21:35 how would stacking work with those? 10:21:47 <|amethyst> they'd just become "food" or "ration" when they stack 10:21:56 <|amethyst> or when the stack merge rather 10:21:59 I guess that works 10:22:06 <|amethyst> s/ck/cks/ 10:22:44 <|amethyst> that's not strictly necessary, but lets us avoid losing flavour in those vaults 10:22:56 <|amethyst> mouthfeel, one might say 10:23:25 |amethyst: the vaults would still need other alterations to avoid giving out a lot more food, of course 10:23:37 <|amethyst> yeah, numbers would have to change 10:24:09 <|amethyst> ooh 10:24:21 <|amethyst> I think someone suggested this before, but goldify it 10:24:55 <|amethyst> food plus:200 name:beef_jerky 10:25:03 hm 10:25:07 <|amethyst> and your stack is something like food {3500} 10:25:17 so when you eat, does it use a fixed amount of nutrition each time? 10:25:36 <|amethyst> probably a ration's worth, yeah, other than chunks 10:25:57 <|amethyst> I guess that's a bit radical, and it's weird if chunks are still discrete 10:26:24 I mean, chunks being discrete makes sense given the word "chunk" :) 10:26:51 <|amethyst> :) 10:27:25 actually, could make chunks goldified too and work the same way maybe 10:27:30 just as a separate stack 10:27:50 <|amethyst> b - food juice 10:27:54 <|amethyst> c - corpse slurry 10:28:03 and monsters that leave behind several chunks currently would just leave one larger piece of perishable food 10:28:52 <|amethyst> of course, the implementation details wrt timed rotting are a pain 10:29:11 <|amethyst> OTOH it would probably end up simpler than the current stack timed rotting code 10:30:04 <|amethyst> I guess rotting could just be an exponential decay and then the math works out fine 10:30:31 could also simplify things by making it impossible to drop food/chunks (and make them not take up a slot) 10:31:22 and then make chopping a corpse just put the food directly into your supply 10:32:10 <|amethyst> and then in 0.27 we make hunger deduct directly from the food pool 10:32:46 <|amethyst> or in 0.20, you know 10:32:51 <|amethyst> :) 10:33:21 doing that would be pretty similar to removing hunger altogether I think 10:33:30 unless other changes were made at the same time 10:34:29 <|amethyst> I guess that's the step that removes any tactical aspect food has 10:34:42 <|amethyst> and food's strategic aspect is minimal 10:34:56 yeah 10:35:01 in 0.40 hunger will be removed entirely, and it will be praised as a progressive move worthy of the year 2024 10:36:26 crawl devs will get flamed for removing depth and flavour from the game 10:36:29 on reddit 10:41:28 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 10:41:38 !tell gammafunk imo, Dispel Undead is a *much* better **remove** target than Control 10:41:38 PleasingFungus: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 10:41:39 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 10:42:31 !tell marvinpa lmao. tavern is good 10:42:32 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let marvinpa know. 10:42:58 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 10:50:47 -!- graymark has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:53:40 -!- Alcopop has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:54:07 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.20-a0-80-g14a9077: Improve grand finale's fail check 10(17 hours ago, 3 files, 5+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/14a9077f4140 10:55:20 PleasingFungus: that commit reminds me that grand finale doesn't give any message if you try to use it on a monster flying over deep water/lava, it just silently fails 10:55:47 -!- scummos__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:57:32 hm, nice 10:58:39 (this confused me for a solid two minutes at one point when trying to teach qw to play usk) 10:58:43 hahah 10:58:52 wow, mpa removed woodys 10:59:03 ps im 12 10:59:35 also he removed the fungus cap joke! i went to so much effort for that... 10:59:41 *mushroom cap 11:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:00:30 !tell MarvinPA god bless you for your dragon form lua work 11:00:30 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let marvinpa know. 11:01:31 i thought "phew i've finally finished and covered all the cases" at least 3 separate times when doing that 11:01:31 MarvinPA: You have 6 messages. Use !messages to read them. 11:01:36 wow help 11:02:42 lol 11:05:27 <|amethyst> btw, has anyone else noticed an inability to load old saves? 11:05:36 <|amethyst> I know some users were having that problem 11:05:40 <|amethyst> with transfers 11:06:10 <|amethyst> ah 11:07:04 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:07:46 <|amethyst> unmarshall_level_vault_placements 11:08:05 <|amethyst> I guess this is related to the thing that invalidated the des cache 11:08:46 -!- FIQ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:09:04 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:09:18 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.20-a0-80-g14a9077 (34) 11:10:29 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:11:09 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 11:11:10 -!- Pacra_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:11:15 !tell kramin cool, i see it does runes now yeah. dunno how you have branch milestones set up currently but could maybe just do branch end for zot/vaults/slime/hells/tomb, and branch entry for the unique panlord floors? should probably be some kind of zig reporting too, maybe just entry but not any individual floors (and exit if exiting from zig:27)? 11:11:16 MarvinPA_: OK, I'll let kramin know. 11:11:30 -!- MarvinPA_ is now known as MarvinPA 11:11:39 !lg * status~~flay 11:11:42 1190. Kenran the Executioner (L24 HOFi of Okawaru), blasted by a storm dragon (bolt of lightning) on Depths:3 (cheibrodos_leafed_vault) on 2016-11-19 10:23:00, with 440208 points after 53168 turns and 2:07:45. 11:11:53 |amethyst: oh, are there more issues? 11:12:05 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: yeah, but it's an easy fix 11:12:11 good! 11:16:28 wow, pain card level 2 does exactly 5 damage to the player 11:17:02 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:17:33 !lg * recent / nemelex 11:17:35 8979/1652096 games for * (recent): N=8979/1652096 (0.54%) 11:17:38 !lg * recent god!= / nemelex 11:17:43 8979/670404 games for * (recent god!=): N=8979/670404 (1.34%) 11:17:52 !lg * recent god!= won / nemelex 11:17:54 197/14989 games for * (recent god!= won): N=197/14989 (1.31%) 11:18:04 man, someone should've reported this stuff 11:18:15 i guess people just kind of expect nem to be a mess... 11:18:39 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:20:29 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: oh, never mind 11:20:39 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: I hadn't gotten your fix yet :) 11:20:42 :) 11:20:55 it would be nice if our marshalling code was a little less fragile 11:20:56 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: so I made exactly the same commit, but with a much longer commit message 11:20:57 somehow 11:21:05 lmao 11:21:08 i want to see the message! 11:21:21 <|amethyst> well, not exactly the same, because I cast the unmarshall to void 11:21:59 do you get warnings otherwise? 11:22:07 <|amethyst> no, but 11:22:15 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:22:46 <|amethyst> IMO better to explicitly say "I know it's returning something, and I'm throwing that thing away" 11:22:50 -!- bgiannan_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:23:10 v0v 11:23:11 possible! 11:23:44 <|amethyst> Unbreak save compat. 11:23:44 <|amethyst> 0.20-a0-69-ga43205b changed how map_chance was marshalled, and 11:23:44 <|amethyst> invalidated the .des cache to avoid having to deal with data marshalled 11:23:44 <|amethyst> before the change. Unfortunately, level_vaults is marshalled with 11:23:44 <|amethyst> TAG_LEVEL, and contains mapdefs itself, so those games were failing 11:23:47 <|amethyst> to load. 11:24:08 <|amethyst> since you asked 11:24:09 heh. i was expecting, like, paragraphs 11:24:18 <|amethyst> just one :) 11:24:28 see, the difference between you and me is that you understood what was going on 11:24:34 whereas i only knew how to fix it 11:25:06 where's that djikstra quote... 11:25:44 <|amethyst> ??devteam[intellectual 11:25:45 devteam[14/27]: They rather get their substitute for intellectual satisfaction from not quite understanding what they are doing in their daring irresponsibility and from the subsequent excitement of chasing the bugs they should not have introduced in the first place. –E. Dijkstra 11:26:28 <|amethyst> I guess better would be 11:26:38 <|amethyst> ?/irresponsibility 11:26:39 Matching entries (1): devteam[14]: They rather get their substitute for intellectual satisfaction from not quite understanding what they are doing in their daring irresponsibility and from the subsequent excitement of chasing the bugs they should not have introduced in the first place. –E. Dijkstra 11:27:29 heh 11:27:33 yes, that's it 11:28:00 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:38:57 New branch created: nemenem (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/tree/nemenem 11:38:57 03PleasingFungus02 07[nemenem] * 0.20-a0-81-g86a53aa: Pain card level 2 rework 10(8 minutes ago, 3 files, 55+ 53-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/86a53aa21780 11:44:14 oops 11:46:39 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:50:54 03PleasingFungus02 07[nemenem] * 0.20-a0-81-gdfe6016: Pain card level 2 rework 10(20 minutes ago, 3 files, 55+ 53-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/dfe60166dfb0 11:50:54 03PleasingFungus02 07[nemenem] * 0.20-a0-82-gb7d4799: Improve Elixir card messaging 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 7+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b7d479984d7f 11:50:59 -!- bgiannan_ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:54:35 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 11:55:28 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 11:55:29 The build has errored. (nemenem - 86a53aa #7188 : Nicholas Feinberg): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/177285183 11:55:29 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 11:56:25 -!- Lasty has quit [Client Quit] 11:57:55 -!- twelwe has joined ##crawl-dev 11:58:00 ready! 12:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:01:07 might also make sense to remove the mp restore from wild magic 12:01:17 since it seems both tangential and mostly irrelevant 12:01:41 is it still worthwhile to add things to the dev wiki? looking at the revisions list it looks pretty abandonned 12:03:05 Stable (0.19) branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.19.0-23-gf02e663 12:05:20 uh 12:05:24 when you're a gargoyle 12:05:41 and you fly over deep water and press a i to end the flight 12:05:44 it says it'd be fatal 12:06:00 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.93 [Firefox 50.0/20161104212021]] 12:06:37 maybe change the message to it being not fatal but a bad idea 12:07:08 <|amethyst> #firstworldproblems 12:07:29 i do that twenty times a game 12:07:58 does your name come from that 12:08:17 yeah, badly mispelled twenty 12:08:47 but i`m a conservationist and so didn`t make another account on account of the global crisis 12:16:17 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.20-a0-80-g14a9077 (34) 12:17:42 -!- adelrune has joined ##crawl-dev 12:29:04 -!- vale_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:31:58 -!- ZiBuDo has joined ##crawl-dev 12:32:32 -!- bgiannan_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:37:27 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 12:38:27 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 12:38:28 The build passed. (nemenem - b7d4799 #7189 : Nicholas Feinberg): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/177286748 12:38:28 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 12:41:27 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 12:46:03 -!- Lasty has quit [Client Quit] 12:47:36 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:47:40 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:57:51 03PabloMansanet02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/387 * 0.20-a0-79-gc9687d1: Steel Dragonfly Technique rebalance + Projection range 10(3 minutes ago, 3 files, 7+ 7-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c9687d1f7a95 12:57:51 03PabloMansanet02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/387 * 0.20-a0-81-ge57c867: Merge branch 'council_god' of https://github.com/PabloMansanet/crawl into council_god 10(3 minutes ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e57c867f64b2 13:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:04:21 -!- tortuga118 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:10:03 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:10:16 a battleaxe of chopping comes into view. ashenzari warns you: it is a battleaxe of chopping 13:12:24 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:15:43 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 13:17:38 -!- Zxpr1jk has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:23:47 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Client Quit] 13:27:37 -!- agolden has joined ##crawl-dev 13:28:18 -!- agolden has quit [Client Quit] 13:32:08 -!- Ge0ff has quit [Client Quit] 13:38:12 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 13:49:13 -!- sooheon has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:49:20 03PabloMansanet02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/387 * 0.20-a0-82-gfc367e1: Slight rebalance 10(3 minutes ago, 2 files, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/fc367e1eb13b 13:49:38 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 13:51:21 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:52:24 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:52:41 -!- vale_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:53:13 -!- d72 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:57:55 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 14:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:01:31 -!- SteelNeuron has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:02:26 -!- Zeor has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:11:18 !tell pleasingfungus i've used wild magic for the mp! powerful zig techs etc (but yes i wouldn't really argue against removing it) 14:11:18 MarvinPA_: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 14:14:53 !tell pleasingfungus also i had been vaguely intending to swap the elixir card back out for some version of the alchemist card, since elixir is a super boring effect (and really powerful), maybe i can finish that up and contribute to yet-another-nemelex-branch 14:14:53 MarvinPA_: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 14:15:07 -!- MarvinPA_ is now known as MarvinPA 14:19:22 -!- Bammboo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:23:32 hmm, what things deal holy damage other than pearl dragon breath 14:23:53 i guess just seraphs with cleansing flame? 14:26:31 -!- d72 has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 14:36:18 -!- bgiannan_ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:40:09 -!- M-bbigras has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:40:52 -!- bgiannan_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:42:34 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 14:44:35 -!- tuxella has joined ##crawl-dev 14:47:33 -!- tuxella has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:47:40 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:48:12 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 14:55:14 -!- sgun__ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:02:06 MarvinPA: the clouds in that dumb tso altar vault 15:02:28 haha tricked you, holy clouds don't deal holy damage 15:02:36 why would you think that would be the case! 15:03:21 (but pearl dragon breath impact does) 15:04:29 but yeah i adjusted clouds, since those do deal proper holy damage in the clean-up-the-terrifying-mess-that-is-holy-damage branch 15:06:36 -!- Kalir has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:07:39 03MarvinPA02 07[holy_simplification] * 0.20-a0-51-ge243e23: Reword TSO's DID_SEE_MONSTER conduct 10(4 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e243e233a0f5 15:07:39 03MarvinPA02 07[holy_simplification] * 0.20-a0-52-g9aa9734: Further simplify TSO's stabbing conduct 10(4 days ago, 4 files, 3+ 19-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9aa9734267f1 15:07:39 03MarvinPA02 07[holy_simplification] * 0.20-a0-53-g217cf19: Use a passive_t for TSO's stabbing prevention 10(3 hours ago, 4 files, 8+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/217cf19f8688 15:07:39 03MarvinPA02 07[holy_simplification] * 0.20-a0-54-g2da4846: Remove TSO's poison conduct 10(4 days ago, 8 files, 1+ 67-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2da48460b4fd 15:07:39 03MarvinPA02 07[holy_simplification] * 0.20-a0-55-gbbdbcc0: Adjust holy damage for resistance changes 10(37 minutes ago, 2 files, 3+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/bbdbcc0ce980 15:11:49 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:12:41 -!- bgiannan_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:15:26 -!- Ququman_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:19:12 -!- Ququman has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:21:32 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 15:31:44 -!- bgiannan_ has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 15:33:37 when are the chat vibes gonna groove? 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(new build script on tap, fixed for non-git usage) 17:34:43 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 17:37:43 -!- dtsund has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:37:58 -!- bgiannan_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:39:04 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 17:39:24 -!- agolden has joined ##crawl-dev 17:42:01 -!- Kellhus has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:42:47 -!- Jiharo has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:42:55 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 17:43:06 =dump 17:43:06 No where information for CanOfWorms. 17:43:17 damn you, jorgrell!!! 17:43:19 anyway 17:43:21 I have a randart whose name is X 17:43:41 is that a borges name or is there a bug with the name generator? 17:44:22 https://puu.sh/snRin/7cbf37b6de.png 17:45:06 that is one of several hardcoded randart names 17:45:37 I figured 17:46:00 the x stands for XTREME 17:46:13 -!- agolden has quit [Quit: agolden] 17:49:42 -!- LordSloth has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 17:50:11 right, https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/database/rand_wpn.txt#L1584 17:52:59 -!- _Jordan_ has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 18:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:04:21 What's the syntax of formatted_string ? is there a way to define the background color of the text ? 18:08:32 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 18:11:12 -!- Pacra_ has quit [Read error: No route to host] 18:11:24 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 18:13:49 -!- nikitamog has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 18:14:55 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 18:15:30 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.20-a0-80-g14a9077 (34) 18:15:46 CanOfWorms: X has gotten bug reports before 18:15:46 PleasingFungus: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 18:16:37 bgiannan_: i don't think the syntax is formally defined; it's just text. leaving out closing tags will cause a bunch of warnings in play. there's no background colour support 18:16:46 why do you want to change the background colour of text? 18:17:13 !tell PleasingFungus imo both are pretty bad spells, just in different ways. Would be nice if someone could dream up something to replace both at once, I guess 18:17:13 gammafunk: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 18:17:14 gammafunk: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 18:17:19 !messages 18:17:19 (1/1) PleasingFungus said (7h 35m 40s ago): imo, Dispel Undead is a *much* better **remove** target than Control 18:17:21 !messages 18:17:22 (1/1) gammafunk said (8s ago): imo both are pretty bad spells, just in different ways. Would be nice if someone could dream up something to replace both at once, I guess 18:17:26 ty sequell 18:17:30 dangit 18:17:44 i personally enjoy using control undead, but one generally enjoys using OP spells, i suppose :P 18:17:44 !tell gammafunk imo shut up 18:17:45 gammafunk: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 18:17:49 !tell gammafunk no don't!!! 18:17:49 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 18:17:57 -!- bgiannan_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:21:16 mon-ench.cc:246:65: error: chosen constructor is explicit in copy-initialization 18:21:17 unwind_var enchants(enchantments, {}); 18:21:54 trying to build on 10.8 with 10.7 SDK, clang from 3.4 18:22:37 +------------------------- 18:22:49 -!- nikheizen has joined ##crawl-dev 18:23:59 @??entropy weaver simulacrum 18:23:59 entropy weaver simulacrum (12Z) | Spd: 10 | HD: 13 | HP: 31-44 | AC/EV: 5/8 | Dam: 1312(cold:13-38), 1312(cold:13-38), 1312(cold:13-38), 1312(cold:13-38) | 07undead, evil, unbreathing | Res: 06magic(17), 12cold+++, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 04fire, 08cleanse++ | XP: 335 | Sz: Medium | Int: brainless. 18:26:12 !lg * t killer=ignacio 18:26:13 No games for * (t killer=ignacio). 18:26:19 !lg * t ikiller=murray 18:26:20 No games for * (t ikiller=murray). 18:26:34 !lg * tall ikiller=murray 18:26:35 4. cerealjynx the Prestidigitator (L17 MiMo of Cheibriados), slain by a shadow wraith (summoned by Murray) on Lair:8 (evil_forest) on 2014-09-09 21:55:20, with 162435 points after 19246 turns and 1:16:30. 18:26:44 !lg * tall killer=ignacio 18:26:45 3. flaco the Metallomancer (L27 HuEE of Ashenzari), slain by Ignacio (a +3,+4 executioner's axe of pain) in Pandemonium on 2013-05-19 21:44:26, with 748602 points after 94398 turns and 10:17:23. 18:26:48 lmao 18:30:11 PR died to ignacio on one of his early Te speedrun attempts 18:30:20 was kind of funny 18:30:36 earlier meaning well before his recent return 18:30:52 !lg purplered splat ikiller=uniq s=ikiller 18:30:53 9 games for purplered (splat ikiller=uniq): 2x Mara, 2x Boris, Aizul, Asmodeus, Ignacio, Saint Roka, Antaeus 18:31:24 dang 18:35:52 -!- G-Flex has joined ##crawl-dev 18:36:31 !kw hell 18:36:32 Built-in: hell => place=hell 18:36:48 there's a kw for some of these 18:36:51 !kw hell-branch 18:36:52 No keyword 'hell-branch' 18:37:05 !kw hells 18:37:06 Keyword: hells => place=tar|dis|geh|coc 18:37:08 thx 18:37:11 np 18:37:27 !lg * t ikiller=uniq br=pan|hell|tar|coc|geh|dis|tomb s=cikiller% 18:37:41 30 games for * (t ikiller=uniq br=pan|hell|tar|coc|geh|dis|tomb): 9x Antaeus (30.00%), 6x Cerebov (20.00%), 3x Lom Lobon (10.00%), 2x Asmodeus (6.67%), 2x Mnoleg (6.67%), 2x Dispater (6.67%), 2x Gloorx Vloq (6.67%), Jory (3.33%), Geryon (3.33%), Detz (3.33%), Zinodo (3.33%) 18:37:54 good one detz 18:38:10 !lg * current ikiller=uniq br=pan|hell|tar|coc|geh|dis|tomb s=cikiller% 18:38:13 332 games for * (current ikiller=uniq br=pan|hell|tar|coc|geh|dis|tomb): 85x Antaeus (25.60%), 42x Cerebov (12.65%), 42x Gloorx Vloq (12.65%), 41x Lom Lobon (12.35%), 36x Mnoleg (10.84%), 22x Asmodeus (6.63%), 14x Ereshkigal (4.22%), 13x Geryon (3.92%), 9x Dispater (2.71%), 6x Mennas (1.81%), 2x Ignacio (0.60%), 2x Boris (0.60%), Ekyzure (0.30%), Tuchukoe (0.30%), Detz (0.30%), Semoyseh (0.30%), E... 18:38:49 -!- jfcaron has quit [Quit: jfcaron] 18:39:15 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 18:40:00 -!- Kenran has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:40:37 -!- Kranix has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 18:44:53 -!- kdrnic has joined ##crawl-dev 18:46:37 -!- kdrnic__ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:47:23 -!- kdrnic_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:48:12 @??rime drake 18:48:12 rime drake (02k) | Spd: 12 | HD: 6 | HP: 27-39 | AC/EV: 3/12 | Dam: 8 | fly | Res: 06magic(20), 02cold | XP: 373 | Sp: flash freeze (3d13) [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath] | Sz: Large | Int: animal. 18:48:22 fire drake (04k) | Spd: 12 | HD: 6 | HP: 23-42 | AC/EV: 3/12 | Dam: 8 | fly | Res: 06magic(20), 05fire | XP: 337 | Sp: fire breath (3d12) [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath] | Sz: Large | Int: animal. 18:48:22 %0.16?fire drake 18:48:25 @??wind drake 18:48:26 wind drake (00k) | Spd: 12 | HD: 8 | HP: 51-73 | AC/EV: 3/12 | Dam: 12 | fly | Res: 06magic(40) | XP: 285 | Sp: wind blast [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath], airstrike (0-26) [11!AM, 06!sil], deflect missiles [11!AM, 06!sil] | Sz: Large | Int: animal. 18:48:28 -!- insecticide18 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:49:40 -!- kdrnic has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:50:06 -!- kdrnic has joined ##crawl-dev 18:52:05 -!- kdrnic__ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:53:43 -!- kdrnic_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:55:11 -!- kdrnic has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:59:24 0.19.0 build error on 10.8 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10791 by geekosaur 19:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:01:02 !seen geekosaur 19:01:02 I last saw geekosaur at Sat Nov 19 23:21:54 2016 UTC (39m 7s ago) saying 'trying to build on 10.8 with 10.7 SDK, clang from 3.4' on ##crawl-dev. 19:01:25 yes? 19:01:43 might be able to fix that one 19:03:19 (XXX: scary code...) 19:04:38 geekosaur: try http://sprunge.us/CaSh ? 19:04:43 i swear to god i did not choose that url 19:05:39 sprunge brought to you by gozag 19:05:59 certainly an omen... but of what? 19:10:01 also I still have yet to deal with the Apple certificate mess, speaking of greedy 19:11:57 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:12:44 lol 19:13:42 the new changes to petrification stabbing make it 19:13:43 really good 19:13:56 I daresay that EE might be a better stabber background than En... 19:14:23 that didn't work, btw. I'm trying again with it rephrased as a normal constructor 19:14:39 (the same error but now on the initializer for no_enchants) 19:16:39 that worked 19:17:07 + mon_enchant_list no_enchants({}); 19:17:24 well, it compiled. will need to try to test it and see if it cores... 19:17:47 (if I can figure out how) 19:17:59 sweet 19:18:05 just run the tests, obv! 19:19:07 -!- jeefus has joined ##crawl-dev 19:22:37 -!- jefus has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:24:12 welp. 19:24:17 ? 19:24:23 fake_pty doesn't build on OS X, it doesn't have pty.h 19:24:31 fake_pty? 19:24:35 (the compile otherwise succeeded) 19:24:45 used by the test harness so it can capture the curses output 19:24:52 hrm 19:25:08 could just start the game up yourself and poke around at random? 19:25:10 that's pretty traditional. 19:26:33 <|amethyst> justr mon_enchant_list no_enchants; should be fine 19:26:47 <|amethyst> hm 19:28:31 -!- Ququman_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:28:37 <|amethyst> actually, why not just unwind_var enchants(enchantments, {}); 19:28:55 isn't that what it was 19:29:00 <|amethyst> oh 19:29:22 yes, that's what causes clang 3.4 to throw an error 19:29:26 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17264067/chosen-constructor-is-explicit-in-copy-initialization-error-with-clang-4-2 was the requisite SO post that i used to vaguely guess at a solution 19:29:37 also, this turns out to be some special case for flayed ghosts... 19:29:43 yep 19:29:49 -!- kdrnic has joined ##crawl-dev 19:29:56 <|amethyst> what's the error exactly? 19:30:06 !bug 10791 19:30:07 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10791 19:30:08 ^ 19:30:17 -!- agolden has joined ##crawl-dev 19:30:43 -!- waat has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:31:10 <|amethyst> what about unwind_var enchants(enchantments, mon_enchant_list{}> then 19:31:59 let's see how many times we can get geekosaur to recompile the same code 19:32:15 -!- kdrnic_ has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 19:32:25 better than trying to figure out how to test this... 19:33:06 (flayed ghost, did &l27, made a wand of enslavement based on nearby code, MR defeat chance 15%, ok not happening now what :/ ) 19:33:09 -!- Ladykiller70 has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 19:34:21 i mean 19:34:23 we can test it 19:34:42 gimme a sec, i did this before 19:35:33 works 19:35:51 (&Snecromancy 27, &@ 72 72 72, &zcontrol undead) 19:37:26 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:37:45 |amethyst's version also worked 19:37:50 sweet 19:37:55 sounds like you're good 19:38:49 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.20-a0-81-g6e69d53: Fix OS X 10.8 compilation (10791) 10(16 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6e69d53a0fe8 19:39:17 03PleasingFungus02 07[stone_soup-0.19] * 0.19.0-24-gb05acd6: Fix OS X 10.8 compilation (10791) 10(44 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b05acd603a6c 19:39:26 -!- agolden has quit [Quit: agolden] 19:44:48 meanwhile it's a good night to hack; cold, windy, occasional bouts of thundersnow 19:45:14 where's my global warming, obama!!! 19:45:31 !firestorm PleasingFungus 19:45:31 gammafunk points at PleasingFungus and mumbles some strange words. A raging storm of fire appears! The great blast of fire engulfs PleasingFungus! 19:45:48 considering this is the first snow of the season and that used to come a month earlier... 19:45:53 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:46:19 ...guess he's defunk-t 19:46:37 ha! jokes on you, we don't even get snow! 19:46:45 ps what's rain 19:47:10 what the snow belt gets when it's warm out <.< 19:48:13 * geekosaur is actually just outside the lake effect snow belt. which is probably for the best. 19:51:31 -!- Kellhus has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:54:01 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 19:54:45 -!- protopulse has left ##crawl-dev 19:54:45 hm, is there an inscription that will help me with not casting without wielding my stat stick? 19:54:56 i have two weapons, one for tabbing and one for casting 19:55:08 i have !a on the stat stick, but I need like a !c on the other one 19:57:54 doesn't look like it 19:58:20 shouldn't such an inscription be called -Cast 19:58:48 -!- agolden has joined ##crawl-dev 20:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:00:12 all inscriptions seem to be single letter 20:01:02 -!- kdrnic_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:02:28 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 20:03:05 -!- kdrnic has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:04:13 -!- agolden has quit [Quit: agolden] 20:07:52 -!- Wolpertinger has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:08:34 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 20:09:14 -!- iFurril has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:09:20 Stable (0.19) branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19.0-24-gb05acd6 20:13:27 -!- iFurril has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:14:53 -!- jwinterm has quit [Changing host] 20:15:21 -!- iFurril has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:16:43 -!- adelrune has joined ##crawl-dev 20:18:29 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.20-a0-81-g6e69d53 (34) 20:18:31 chequers: does !z work 20:20:45 -!- agolden has joined ##crawl-dev 20:21:31 -!- iFurril has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:22:53 -!- insecticide18 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:23:43 cephied0 (L16 HOCK) ASSERT(in_non_diamond_int(r.start)) in 'ray.cc' at line 217 failed. (Snake:4) 20:24:57 -!- sooheon has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 20:25:51 i`m gonna try it now 20:25:55 right now 20:25:58 ok here goes! 20:25:59 !z 20:27:44 -!- Pacra_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:27:51 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:28:02 good lock twelwe 20:28:07 -!- agolden has quit [Quit: agolden] 20:33:16 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:33:46 -!- ilyak has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:41:33 -!- scummos__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:49:54 -!- DALuke has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:57:09 -!- Patashu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 20:58:05 !lg . nemelex won 20:58:06 1. PleasingFungus the Evocator (L27 HaAr of Nemelex Xobeh), escaped with the Orb and 5 runes on 2014-03-30 19:56:22, with 2541260 points after 101717 turns and 12:41:01. 20:58:16 that was like 20:58:19 six nemelexes ago, probably 20:58:56 &watch rast 20:58:56 Rast: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 20:58:57 http://crawl.akrasiac.org:8080/#watch-rast 20:59:06 if it didn't involve a portable altar, it's modern nem :p 20:59:07 Is this ^ a desired result from teleporting on zot:5 ? 20:59:14 !messages 20:59:14 (1/1) regret-index said (2d 11h 35m 34s ago): D:6 is pretty much the cut-off point for me bothering to nerf early oods for being early, and D:6 9s have a bunch of other appearances. cross_stitches might be large and open and directly-exposing of a monster group, but compare with e.g. grunt_potential, kb_rosetta, or the silly minmay_three_doors 20:59:43 -!- Lasty has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:59:48 Rast: nope 20:59:55 congrats on joining the aquarium tho 21:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:00:03 walls are stone also, so the normal ways of destroying them dont work 21:00:39 good thing i have perma flight and not temporary huh 21:01:07 yeah, you're really not supposed to be in there 21:01:09 wow, long message log 21:01:17 -!- Bammboo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:01:41 sorry, i teleported out and kept playing 21:01:45 i saw it 21:01:59 what rcfile option are you using to get so many messages? 21:02:02 should be default for webtiles, imo 21:02:12 what do you mean so many messages...? 21:02:17 long message log? 21:02:19 at the bottom left? 21:02:31 oh, um, sec 21:02:45 i play console so i have no idea how it looks in webtiles 21:02:58 hm, i guess it looks kind of tiny on 1024x768.... 21:03:02 i forget if people still use that 21:03:30 -!- Lasty1 has joined ##crawl-dev 21:03:45 msg_max_height = 20 21:03:49 i think that's what is doing it 21:04:08 sick 21:07:53 !tell gammafunk got a final win for bcb 21:07:53 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 21:12:00 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:12:09 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 21:14:31 -!- Patashu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 21:15:29 -!- Xiberia has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 21:18:11 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 21:22:59 -!- sooheon has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:24:16 -!- LordSloth has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 21:24:29 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 21:26:11 -!- iFurril has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:28:09 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 21:29:53 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:41:43 elite ownage 21:42:01 i`m ff freakin gonna win, team 21:48:09 !locate twelwe 21:48:10 twelwe was last seen on CAO (twelwe, L24 GhMo of Ashenzari). 21:48:52 i have to win, i carrot or cannot leave or let the team down 21:49:25 i believe in u 21:50:00 !time 21:50:01 Time: Nov 20, 2016, 02:50:00 AM, UTC. The 2016 0.19 tournament ends in 17 hours, 9 minutes and 59 seconds. 21:52:00 omg i thought i had until the 22nd 21:52:19 fuck this west coast time, it messes with me in the most unholy ways 21:53:32 a day behind dubai 21:53:47 i will ever get 15 runes, ever 21:55:02 -!- MarvinPA_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:03:15 -!- stickythighs has quit [Client Quit] 22:10:44 -!- droogie has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:12:21 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 22:19:06 -!- Mixolyde has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:20:41 finally ascended that vampire... 22:22:31 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 22:38:52 -!- Lasty1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:40:07 -!- _Jordan_ has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 22:40:29 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 22:45:15 -!- sooheon has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:51:49 &versions 22:51:55 CAO: 0.20-a0-80-g14a9077, CBRO: 0.20-a0-78-ge188847, CDO: none, CJR: 0.19.0-24-gb05acd6, CPO: 0.19.0, CUE: 0.20-a0-80-g14a9077, CWZ: 0.20-a0-2-g2b0e13a, CXC: 0.20-a0-77-g476458c, LLD: 0.19.0-23-gf02e663 22:52:00 !tstats 22:52:55 Stats after 16 days (t): 3109 players, 983 runers, 508 winners, 1356 wins, 76272 games, winrate 1.78%, total player time 4y+58d+11:32:02. 22:53:23 3109! 22:53:31 !tstats 0.18 22:53:38 Stats after 0.18 days (t): 361 players, 26 runers, 12 winners, 12 wins, 1189 games, winrate 1.01%, total player time 14d+16:06:39. 22:53:45 !tstats t0.18 22:53:50 Stats after t0.18 days (t): 0 players, 0 runers, 0 winners, 0 wins, 0 games, winrate NaN, total player time 0. 22:53:54 Hrm 22:54:19 !tstats 18 t0.18 22:55:49 90s limit exceeded: killed !tstats 18 t0.18 22:59:38 "This scratches an itch." 22:59:38 gammafunk: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 22:59:38 _You resist. You are blasted with fire. 22:59:55 xom blasting me with fire and I got the resist message before the fire message 23:00:06 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:06:07 -!- rossi_ has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.6] 23:07:22 xom just letting you know that he checks your rF before blasting you 23:07:25 very polite 23:07:55 !tstats 16 t0.18 23:08:55 Stats after 16 days (t0.18): 2759 players, 913 runers, 479 winners, 1358 wins, 68718 games, winrate 1.98%, total player time 4y+49d+1:09:53. 23:09:18 !tstats 16 t0.17 23:10:23 Stats after 16 days (t0.17): 2835 players, 993 runers, 533 winners, 1400 wins, 74048 games, winrate 1.89%, total player time 4y+242d+18:06:16. 23:20:52 arazyal (L4 DsVM) ASSERT(in_non_diamond_int(r.start)) in 'ray.cc' at line 217 failed. (D:3) 23:22:32 -!- ZiBuDo has joined ##crawl-dev 23:23:26 -!- LordSloth has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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