00:00:02 yeah 00:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00:08 especially #1 00:00:10 !source haste_player 00:00:11 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/player.cc#L4742 00:00:24 i'm thinking about Tele status f.e 00:00:49 i mean, you can overcome those by having a "don't actually print anything" setting, and then printing manually in all cases for that duration, just like the existing stuff works 00:00:57 but i don't know how clean that is 00:01:25 yeah, another argument to you.increase_duration 00:02:44 New branch created: pull/399 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/399 00:02:44 03chequers02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/399 * 0.20-a0-62-g244acc8: Improve Xom form spell casting 10(87 minutes ago, 7 files, 45+ 40-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/244acc8cbf5f 00:02:57 why Tele? all existing ways to tele are handled in one place anyway now, right? 00:03:20 I was thinking of no_tele_reason, which I guess is slightly different 00:03:55 -!- simmarine_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:04:20 -!- simmarine_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:05:10 I appreciate the 'crawl contributor' tag on github, whoever added it, but please capitalise to help my OCD self 00:07:53 03chequers02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/399 * 0.20-a0-62-g517b122: Improve Xom form spell casting 10(2 hours ago, 7 files, 47+ 40-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/517b122d36ba 00:09:36 what tag is that? 00:10:11 -!- vale_ has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 00:11:44 if you open the pr and look at my name 00:13:15 yes, i have done these things but don't see anything interesting 00:13:38 i wonder if it's because i'm not signed into github. weird that they'd only display tags like that to logged-in users 00:17:36 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/174032098166964224/249040365418577923/Screen_Shot_2016-11-18_at_4.17.14_pm.png 00:18:43 scoreboard has an API now :) 00:18:52 you can pull a list of all wins for a player 00:19:25 what would you want capitalized? that looks right to me 00:20:29 Crawl contributor 00:20:35 you are a contributor to crawl, the github repo 00:20:39 the repo name isn't Crawl 00:20:42 devs are 'Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup development team member' 00:21:01 huh 00:21:04 it's the beginning of a sentence :) 00:21:15 it's not a sentence 00:21:20 sentences have verbs 00:21:25 but it does seem inconsistent 00:22:26 i'll see if i can figure out (a) how to get past my github 2FA on all this new hardware, and (b) how to make it consistent 00:22:51 -!- destroythecore has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:23:28 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:26:38 sentences have verbs 00:26:42 prescriptivist scum 00:27:16 so, these tags are added by github on its own. you are a contributor to the repo named "crawl/crawl", so you are a "crawl contributor". devs are members of the github organization https://github.com/crawl, which owns the repo and *also* has the official longname of "Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup development team" 00:28:00 i think that's what's up, anyway 00:28:36 you can see the same thing in other repos, eg https://github.com/crawl/dcss_tourney/pull/1 00:28:42 -!- twelwe has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:29:43 interesting 00:29:47 if this is all deeply unsatisfying to you, you could petition to change the official name of either the repo or the org, but neither of those seems likely 00:30:21 I'll live :) 00:31:46 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.20-a0-71-g11d6418 (34) 00:32:18 -!- sooheon has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:33:11 -!- _Jordan_ has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 00:33:46 Stable (0.19) branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.19.0-22-gd96e5fe 00:37:30 -!- Wehk has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 00:38:48 -!- asdu has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:49:43 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 01:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:00:40 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 01:02:22 -!- Lasty has quit [Client Quit] 01:03:19 -!- tswett has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:03:42 -!- Warrigal has joined ##crawl-dev 01:04:50 -!- sooheon has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:06:27 -!- simmarine_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:08:59 !learn edit nemelex_xobeh[1] s/.$/ in 0.18-/ 01:08:59 nemelex xobeh[1/4]: The gambling god. In return for exploring, you get decks of cards, as well as abilities that let you manipulate the decks in your favor. Nemelex abilities use evocations instead of invocations in 0.18- 01:10:01 Stable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19.0-22-gd96e5fe (34) 01:10:01 -!- Rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 01:10:50 -!- Cimanyd has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:13:54 -!- Rast has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:17:38 -!- Cimanyd has quit [Client Quit] 01:18:38 -!- illusionary has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:20:03 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.20-a0-71-g11d6418 (34) 01:26:43 -!- sneakyness has joined ##crawl-dev 01:27:48 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 01:31:28 -!- sneakyness has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:32:25 -!- Beef-Takeout has quit [Quit: Bye] 01:33:25 !lg . splat recentish ikiller=uniq 01:33:25 No games for gammafunk (splat recentish ikiller=uniq). 01:36:46 !lg . xl>=10 recentish ikiller=uniq 01:36:47 14. gammafunk the Severer (L11 MiBe of Trog), mangled by Rupert (a +4 great mace of crushing) on Lair:4 on 2016-04-04 00:27:10, with 13953 points after 5510 turns and 0:42:30. 01:36:53 !lg . xl>=10 recentish ikiller=uniq !gfspeed 01:36:55 1. gammafunk the Carver (L13 HaAr of Pakellas), blasted by Josephine (ghostly fireball) on Lair:5 on 2015-11-26 04:54:09, with 25650 points after 26392 turns and 2:02:27. 01:41:50 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:50:03 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 01:52:13 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:56:37 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.20-a0-71-g11d6418 02:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:01:15 -!- Poncheis has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:02:18 -!- namad7 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:06:55 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 02:11:23 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. 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Most projects give up and do autoconf or rely on Xcode or Visual Studio or something. 03:41:04 -!- sneakyness has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:41:18 well autoconf or a proper build system would be better, I think 03:41:31 obviously we can't use those last two and maintain three different builds 03:41:41 but I think autoconf could work 03:42:10 on windows we support building from msys2 or cygwin, both of which would support autoconf 03:42:17 and os x would support it as well 03:42:26 -!- ythm has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:42:41 but yeah, thanks for that PR, I'll take a look at merge that 03:42:59 np! 03:43:19 -!- Patashu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 03:45:49 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 04:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:00:05 -!- mong has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:10:57 -!- Japex_ has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 04:13:23 -!- Zekka has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:15:06 -!- adibis has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:15:50 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 04:27:49 superterranean (L16 DECj) ERROR: short read while reading save (Elf:1) 04:28:25 superterranean (L16 DECj) ERROR: short read while reading save (Elf:1) 04:36:05 superterranean (L16 DECj) ERROR: short read while reading save (Elf:1) 04:37:12 -!- sneakyness has joined ##crawl-dev 04:41:45 -!- sneakyness has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:44:49 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 04:46:57 -!- Lasty has quit [Client Quit] 04:48:00 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:55:00 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 04:59:03 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 05:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:02:14 -!- Lasty has quit [Client Quit] 05:04:13 -!- rchandra has left ##crawl-dev 05:04:22 -!- insecticide15 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 05:05:15 uh oh 05:06:09 !crash superterranean 05:06:11 8. superterranean, XL16 DECj, T:30983 (milestone): http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/superterranean/crash-superterranean-20161118-093554.txt 05:06:34 weird, why did that happen 05:07:30 %git 05:07:30 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.20-a0-71-g11d6418: Fix Degeneration card messages 10(7 hours ago, 1 file, 18+ 17-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/11d64188ad1b 05:07:42 %git HEAD~1 05:07:42 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.20-a0-70-gb95951f: Reduce Xom cleave duration 10x 10(8 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b95951f8b530 05:09:12 gammafunk (L4 DESu) ERROR: short read while reading save (D:5) 05:09:22 -!- valrus has quit [Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 05:09:28 gammafunk (L4 DESu) ERROR: short read while reading save (D:5) 05:12:12 &versions 05:12:30 -!- sooheon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:12:31 CAO: 0.20-a0-65-g2948d44, CBRO: 0.20-a0-61-ga1b20b4, CDO: 0.20-a0-71-g11d6418, CJR: 0.20-a0-71-g11d6418, CPO: 0.20-a0-71-g11d6418, CUE: 0.20-a0-68-g2fb812e, CWZ: 0.20-a0-2-g2b0e13a, CXC: 0.20-a0-71-g11d6418, LLD: 0.20-a0 05:15:59 games aren't transfering in trunk because the des cache isn't getting invalidated for some reason (it did when testing locally) 05:16:39 I have to go now, but if anyone is around they can either fix that or revert that commit of mine until I can figure out why that's happening 05:17:48 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 05:19:09 some details: the error is happening when the idx cache is being read (which it shouldn't be, since the cache should be discarded) and map_chance is unmarshalling only chance and not unmarshelling priority just before that, which causes a crash in later unmarshalling (I think) 05:23:12 -!- XVar has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 05:27:08 -!- bgiannan_ has joined ##crawl-dev 05:28:32 Just had a really wierd crash: upon entering D:2, i had several --more-- messages saying all the Pan rune were in sight and then the game crashed 05:28:40 didn't find any crash report 05:29:34 it's the mac tile build that was uploaded yesterday 05:31:13 and when i relaunch the game i back at the start of the same game with the same seed 05:32:17 no crash report window popped up when the game crashed? 05:43:02 none 05:43:09 no morgue either 05:43:35 bgiannan_: it doesn’t particularly sound like a platform specific issue to me, what with the pan rune messages, maybe you can repro it since you’ve got the same seed? 05:44:02 i tried but it didn't happen again 05:44:10 :( 05:45:29 -!- insecticide15 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 05:47:41 New branch created: pull/401 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/401 05:47:41 03chequers02 {GitHub} 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/401 * 0.19-a0-140-g269afac: Change stat ring range to +/-3 to 6 10(26 seconds ago, 1 file, 6+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/269afac182cd 05:48:15 bgiannan_: it sounds like an issue gammafunk was describign above due to des cache invalidating 05:48:52 fwiw if you see it again i would quit the game rather than trying to --more-- through it if you don't want to risk the game not counting 05:49:42 chequers: was gammafunk’s issue on trunk or 0.19 though? the build bgiannan_ is using was made from the stone-soup-0.19 branch. 05:50:13 -!- bgiannan_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:50:31 good point 06:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:04:50 -!- vale_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:05:36 -!- aegolden has quit [Quit: aegolden] 06:13:26 New branch created: pull/402 (2 commits) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/402 06:13:26 03chequers02 {GitHub} 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/402 * 0.19-a0-140-g3c1d0ce: Unify deep elf knight spellbooks 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 10-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3c1d0ce7083e 06:13:26 03chequers02 {GitHub} 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/402 * 0.19-a0-141-g27d7b40: Remove second spellbook from deep elf knights 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/27d7b402cad3 06:14:57 -!- Ge0ff has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:15:04 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Client Quit] 06:24:21 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 06:26:02 -!- Lasty has quit [Client Quit] 06:39:12 -!- sneakyness has joined ##crawl-dev 06:39:30 anyone know what depths des this is? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/99797890309840896/249136196767186954/map.png it was a blast 06:39:36 full of caustic shrikes and other baddies 06:39:38 -!- miserium has joined ##crawl-dev 06:39:46 i can't see it in depths 06:41:19 Something appears to have broken the nightly android build. I'm getting this: http://pastebin.com/raw/NsJJkRUV 06:42:35 or variable/large* 06:42:37 <|amethyst> %git a43205b7 06:42:37 07gammafunk02 * 0.20-a0-69-ga43205b: Remove priority from map CHANCE specifications 10(2 days ago, 9 files, 73+ 118-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a43205b74715 06:43:04 <|amethyst> didn't update prebuilt/ 06:43:31 -!- sneakyness has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:43:48 <|amethyst> miserium: simplest thing you can do is install 'bison' and rebuild 06:44:44 <|amethyst> miserium: or 06:47:49 so what changed? I don't see any commits from yesterday that should have messed with this 06:48:37 while I build the nightlies, I can't say I'm all up on the intricacies of the actual crawl source. Why would I have to install bison now? 06:49:34 <|amethyst> miserium: the commit I quoted changes the map parser (by removing the priority field of CHANCE:) 06:50:08 <|amethyst> miserium: bison (the GNU version of "yacc") is the program to converts the parser in util/levcomp.ypp into C++ code 06:50:23 <|amethyst> miserium: we ship a copy of the generated C++ code so that people don't need yacc or bison 06:50:37 <|amethyst> miserium: but gammafunk forgot to update that when he changed the .ypp file 06:50:58 03|amethyst02 07* 0.20-a0-72-gc6c1bd8: Update prebuilt yaccage. 10(3 minutes ago, 2 files, 332+ 354-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c6c1bd8ccea3 06:51:03 <|amethyst> miserium: the commit that's about to show up fixes that 06:51:17 <|amethyst> miserium: so if you update one more time, you shouldn't need to install it 06:51:25 <|amethyst> s/install it/install yacc/ 06:51:32 K - I'll kick off the build again now 06:54:34 -!- chcl3 has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 06:56:35 -!- Ge0ff has quit [Client Quit] 06:57:55 -!- Dracunos_ is now known as Dracunos 07:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:04:37 -!- Ge0ff has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:08:38 -!- bgiannan_ has joined ##crawl-dev 07:09:24 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.20-a0-72-gc6c1bd8 (34) 07:09:46 -!- Dracunos_ is now known as Dracunos7 07:10:04 -!- Dracunos7 is now known as Dracunos72 07:10:19 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:12:02 -!- jefus has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:21:08 -!- jefus has joined ##crawl-dev 07:31:27 |amethyst: well I have to head out but it looks like it's still building so it'll probably be fine. Thanks for the help and the explanation! 07:31:56 -!- miserium has quit [] 07:39:38 -!- sneakyness has joined ##crawl-dev 07:42:04 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 07:42:58 teo (L2 TeCj) ASSERT(len >= 0) in 'tags.cc' at line 836 failed. 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(D:13) 08:33:46 ktulu8bugs (L16 FoEE) ASSERT(len >= 0) in 'tags.cc' at line 836 failed. (D:13) 08:34:11 ktulu8bugs (L16 FoEE) ASSERT(len >= 0) in 'tags.cc' at line 836 failed. (D:13) 08:38:12 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:40:47 -!- sneakyness has joined ##crawl-dev 08:42:27 -!- sneakyness has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:42:56 -!- sneakyness has joined ##crawl-dev 08:58:05 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:00:59 ktulu8bugs (L16 FoEE) ASSERT(len >= 0) in 'tags.cc' at line 836 failed. (D:13) 09:01:43 ktulu8bugs (L16 FoEE) ASSERT(len >= 0) in 'tags.cc' at line 836 failed. (D:13) 09:08:12 -!- chance672_ has quit [Client Quit] 09:08:33 -!- sneakyness has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 09:08:38 -!- waat has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:12:08 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:19:12 ktulu8bugs (L16 FoEE) ASSERT(len >= 0) in 'tags.cc' at line 836 failed. (D:13) 09:29:27 -!- bgiannan_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:31:50 -!- sneakyness has joined ##crawl-dev 09:35:28 FrankyJ (L11 DsGl) ERROR in 'mapdef.cc' at line 455: ASSERT failed: h of 228 out of range 0 (0) .. GYM + 1 (71) (Lair:1) 09:35:51 FrankyJ (L11 DsGl) ERROR in 'mapdef.cc' at line 455: ASSERT failed: h of 228 out of range 0 (0) .. GYM + 1 (71) (Lair:1) 09:39:04 -!- Patashu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:48:37 Enthusiasm (L11 DECj) (D:10) 09:48:54 Enthusiasm (L11 DECj) (D:10) 09:49:18 Enthusiasm (L11 DECj) (D:10) 09:49:33 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:51:43 Enthusiasm (L11 DECj) (D:10) 10:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:01:35 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Client Quit] 10:07:24 -!- ig0rbit has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:08:12 deifeln (L13 MiFi) ERROR: short read while reading save (Lair:6) 10:14:52 -!- Patashu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 10:16:34 deifeln (L13 MiFi) ERROR: short read while reading save (Lair:6) 10:17:33 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 10:22:49 superterranean (L16 DECj) ERROR: short read while reading save (Elf:1) 10:28:38 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 10:28:57 !crashlog Superterranean 10:28:58 9. superterranean, XL16 DECj, T:30983 (milestone): http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/superterranean/crash-superterranean-20161118-152239.txt 10:30:26 -!- Isvaffel has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:30:48 FrankyJ (L11 DsGl) ERROR in 'mapdef.cc' at line 455: ASSERT failed: h of 228 out of range 0 (0) .. GYM + 1 (71) (Lair:1) 10:30:59 oh, good, it's a recent change. 10:31:07 oh, gammafunk broke it 10:32:02 ... 10:42:51 -!- LexAckson_ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:43:09 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:48:44 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:48:50 Aak (L11 DrBe) ERROR in 'mapdef.cc' at line 455: ASSERT failed: h of 167 out of range 0 (0) .. GYM + 1 (71) (Lair:1) 10:49:16 Aak (L11 DrBe) ERROR in 'mapdef.cc' at line 455: ASSERT failed: h of 167 out of range 0 (0) .. GYM + 1 (71) (Lair:1) 10:51:08 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.20-a0-73-g65ed1cb: Fix save compat for all saves 10(45 seconds ago, 1 file, 4+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/65ed1cb72bfa 10:55:11 !tell gammafunk at least you broke trunk during t - minimal impact! :P 10:55:12 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 10:55:54 !time 10:55:54 Time: Nov 18, 2016, 03:55:54 PM, UTC. The 2016 0.19 tournament ends in 2 days, 4 hours, 4 minutes and 5 seconds. 10:55:59 !nchoice 10:56:00 Time for a new nchoice! It will appear shortly on the tournament website (if it hasn't yet). Type "=nemelex XXXX" to update !nchoice with the new combo, where XXXX should be replaced by the new combo. 10:56:02 there's no !time 10:56:11 =nemelex VpEE 10:56:13 Defined keyword: nchoice => OpWr|HEAr|KoIE|DDAE|CeVM|HOWz|GrEn|GhCj|FeAK|VSSu|DEHu|VpAK|HaSu|TeAM|SpMo|FoCj|MfEE|TrVM|DDSk|HaFE|VSAM|HOTm|GhBe|SpAE|DECK|DDIE|TeAK|VpEE 10:56:23 wait shit actually that isn't much time. i should win 10:56:23 or splat again like an idiot (again) 10:56:25 either or 10:56:26 2 days and 6 hours to go 10:56:33 i've splatted a LOT of good chars this t. 10:56:33 -!- Galewind has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:56:39 !splatratio . t 10:56:40 No games for PleasingFungus (t recentish !gfspeed !boring xl>=17). 10:56:42 hm 10:56:53 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.20-a0-73-g65ed1cb (34) 10:57:27 I should finish up my VM before the tournament ends yeah 10:57:33 got distracted by job search and CDDA 10:57:53 it'll be nice to actually get back working on Crawl 10:57:58 this month off has left me stir-crazy 10:58:06 :P 10:58:10 the curse of t 10:58:27 sometimes we've had month-long feature-freezes (plus the two weeks of t). half again as long! 10:59:02 geez 11:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:00:31 teo (L2 TeCj) ASSERT(len >= 0) in 'tags.cc' at line 836 failed. (D:1) 11:03:42 superterranean (L16 DECj) ERROR: short read while reading save (Elf:1) 11:05:56 !lm teo x=src 11:05:57 1578. [2016-11-18 16:00:31] [src=cjr] teo the Conjurer (L2 TeCj) ASSERT(len >= 0) in 'tags.cc' at line 836 failed on turn 754. (D:1) 11:06:07 !lm teo x=vlong 11:06:08 1578. [2016-11-18 16:00:31] [vlong=0.20-a0-72-gc6c1bd8] teo the Conjurer (L2 TeCj) ASSERT(len >= 0) in 'tags.cc' at line 836 failed on turn 754. (D:1) 11:06:09 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.20-a0-73-g65ed1cb (34) 11:06:15 teo (L2 TeCj) ASSERT(len >= 0) in 'tags.cc' at line 836 failed. (D:1) 11:06:44 %git 11:06:44 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.20-a0-73-g65ed1cb: Fix save compat for all saves 10(16 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/65ed1cb72bfa 11:06:50 rip 11:08:20 !crashlog teo 11:08:20 3. teo, XL2 TeCj, T:754 (milestone): https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/morgue/teo/crash-teo-20161118-160614.txt 11:09:24 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.20-a0-73-g65ed1cb (34) 11:11:21 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 11:16:06 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 11:18:33 teo (L2 TeCj) ASSERT(len >= 0) in 'tags.cc' at line 836 failed. (D:1) 11:20:05 !lm teo x=vlong 11:20:06 1580. [2016-11-18 16:18:32] [vlong=0.20-a0-72-gc6c1bd8] teo the Conjurer (L2 TeCj) ASSERT(len >= 0) in 'tags.cc' at line 836 failed on turn 754. (D:1) 11:21:07 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.20-a0-73-g65ed1cb (34) 11:27:35 -!- nezrel has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:28:48 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:30:33 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Changing host] 11:34:48 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 11:36:05 -!- ZiBuDo has joined ##crawl-dev 11:46:21 -!- chcl3 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:53:03 -!- SteelNeuron has joined ##crawl-dev 11:55:47 -!- TAS_2012v has joined ##crawl-dev 11:56:02 -!- andrew_ has quit [Client Quit] 11:59:38 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:59:47 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 12:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:02:06 Stable (0.19) branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.19.0-22-gd96e5fe 12:02:33 -!- illusion-znc is now known as illusionary 12:06:20 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:07:23 -!- phyphor has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:09:11 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 12:09:30 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 12:13:56 -!- fearitself_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:18:05 -!- agolden has joined ##crawl-dev 12:24:46 -!- Cimanyd has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:24:51 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 12:29:22 -!- bgiannan_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:29:23 -!- TAS_2012v has quit [] 12:29:56 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 12:31:01 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 12:33:36 -!- bgiannan_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:33:47 ok, something is really wrong here. git checkouts fail when it tries to pull the fonts submodule :( 12:43:29 !gamesby . t 12:43:30 No games for amalloy (t). 12:43:42 wow rip. doesn't include stats for my one active game. 100% winrate tho 12:43:44 -!- sooheon has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 12:43:55 &versions 12:44:14 CAO: 0.20-a0-65-g2948d44, CBRO: 0.20-a0-73-g65ed1cb, CDO: 0.20-a0-71-g11d6418, CJR: 0.20-a0-73-g65ed1cb, CPO: 0.20-a0-71-g11d6418, CUE: 0.20-a0-68-g2fb812e, CWZ: 0.20-a0-2-g2b0e13a, CXC: 0.20-a0-73-g65ed1cb, LLD: 0.20-a0 12:44:36 !gamesby . t 12:44:37 No games for Brannock (t). 12:44:38 weird 12:44:51 oh I see 12:45:22 &versions 0.19 12:45:30 CAO: 0.19.0-22-gd96e5fe, CBRO: 0.19.0-22-gd96e5fe, CDO: none, CJR: none, CPO: 0.19.0, CUE: none, CWZ: 0.19.0-2-gae57169, CXC: 0.19.0-22-gd96e5fe, LLD: 0.19.0-19-g8c6edcc 12:45:37 -!- insecticide17 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:47:12 -!- TAS_2012v has joined ##crawl-dev 12:48:25 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 12:49:28 -!- chcl3 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:51:03 -!- adelrune has joined ##crawl-dev 12:53:58 -!- jfcaron has quit [Quit: jfcaron] 12:55:21 -!- smee has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:57:01 -!- Xiberia has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 12:59:31 -!- chcl3 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:07:47 -!- Bammboo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:09:32 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:11:34 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Quit: I like to rock] 13:14:36 -!- SteelNeuron has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:17:34 it is really silly that I'm seeing adders in D:12 13:18:06 -!- stickyfingers has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:18:47 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 13:19:43 -!- agolden has quit [Quit: agolden] 13:19:47 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 13:23:20 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:24:14 -!- chcl3 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:25:00 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:25:05 -!- insecticide17 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:26:39 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:27:26 !lg * killer~~adder D:12 13:27:27 11. ooparts the Shield-Bearer (L1 FoFi), succumbed to an adder's poison on D:12 on 2016-04-21 10:08:44, with 0 points after 186 turns and 0:01:03. 13:27:31 11? impressive 13:30:01 -!- bgiannan_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:34:40 -!- bgiannan_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:39:34 -!- jfcaron has quit [Quit: jfcaron] 13:45:42 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 13:45:46 -!- jfcaron has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 13:45:46 -!- jfcaron_ is now known as jfcaron 13:48:37 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:49:01 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 13:58:50 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:03:36 -!- smee has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:04:11 -!- insecticide17 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:07:51 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 14:15:27 -!- _Jordan_ has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 14:19:28 -!- rchandra has joined ##crawl-dev 14:20:01 PleasingFungus: i made further form discoveries that i'm sure you'll appreciate 14:20:09 i'm excited already 14:20:11 which is that dragon form special cases are the very worst thing 14:20:37 50/50 chance i wrote the code you're annoyed by 14:20:44 and then forgot it all... 14:21:06 haha, i think you're innocent of this! in particular i'm thinking of white dracs getting rC++ rF-, and the pain of including that in descs 14:21:17 haha 14:21:22 there's already a big lua thing in the desc so i can just make that bigger and messier maybe 14:21:39 yes... embrace the dark side... 14:22:32 oh hm and i guess all dracs also get rpois 14:22:42 so that probably needs a green drac-specific special case too! 14:23:31 if you rename fire dragon back to dragon, you could get rid of them all and have everybody just become 'dragon' 14:23:33 -!- Bammboo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:23:59 i strongly suspect the dragon form changes predated 'fire dragon' 14:24:08 :P 14:24:45 -!- frd has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:24:54 iirc there used to be a special-case for white drac only, then other dracs keeping their colour and breath came not long after the drac rework 14:25:18 so yeah, long-predates fire dragons 14:25:26 it's still a valid excuse 14:26:17 i mean to be fair it's not called "fire dragon form" so you could probably argue that it does in fact transform you into a nonspecific "dragon" and get rid of the resistances/breath entirely 14:26:21 since those are hardly the appeal 14:26:22 turning you into a random dragon would be fun too but probably bad 14:26:43 recasting heaven 14:28:27 -!- adelrune has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:28:39 wyvern form 14:33:19 -!- jfcaron has quit [Quit: jfcaron] 14:37:19 -!- irandms has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:42:32 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 14:43:42 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:52:22 -!- Kalir has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 14:52:25 -!- Awod has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 14:53:42 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 14:53:52 -!- bgiannan_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:03:18 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 15:06:01 -!- smee has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:07:09 and I deliver unto devteam my final win of T0.19 15:08:45 Brannock: congrats! 15:09:03 idle thought while ascending: guaranteed panlord/seraph on D:1? 15:09:15 feels like many orb runs fizzle out 15:09:48 Brannock: some of them don't, the tension is good enough :) 15:10:11 i've had a lot of good ones lately 15:10:26 by good i mean spooky 15:12:42 PleasingFungus: yes, I had teeth-gnawing (spelling?) orb runs, too 15:13:01 -!- Cryp71c has joined ##crawl-dev 15:13:04 PleasingFungus: also very nice to see you work on damage feedback! 15:13:20 :) 15:13:45 spelling is fine but i'm not sure 'teeth-gnawing' is a real phrase 15:13:48 gnashing, maybe? 15:14:44 gnawing = chewing on (you're eating teeth), gnashing = grinding against each-other 15:19:25 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 15:20:39 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 15:20:57 -!- sooheon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:21:03 ah, gnashing, thx 15:21:19 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: perhaps if you gnash your teeth enough, some of them fall out and then you can gnaw on them 15:21:49 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: of course, as you gnaw on teeth, sometimes they will slip and your (still intact) teeth will grind together 15:21:50 PleasingFungus: I was wondering whether perhaps we could give the most verbose feedback in Ctrl-P and abbreviated feedback in messages? (Not sure this is even possible.) Only if too many messages would become two-liners in the new system. 15:22:01 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: if you model these two competing processes mathematically, 15:22:12 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: you arrive at the gnash equilibrium 15:22:16 booo 15:22:24 dpeg: i definitely feel like our combat messages are too verbose 15:22:32 PleasingFungus: needs more !!!!! 15:22:34 :) 15:22:35 way too much text being thrown at the player all the time 15:22:37 haha 15:22:48 I love the exclamation marks. 15:23:03 short, and to the (exclamation!) point 15:23:31 also, very secret 15:23:50 spoilers for sure... 15:26:47 -!- chcl3 has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 15:28:07 PleasingFungus: I thought about indicating "killability" of monsters (i.e. in how many turns this guy can kill you) in the monster list. Do you think that might be feasible? 15:28:39 <|amethyst> hm 15:28:42 mmmaybe? idk how helpful it'd be 15:28:44 <|amethyst> do you account for slow player turns? 15:29:17 PleasingFungus: or maybe just an indicator (like * after the name) for "this guy can kill you with its next action!" 15:29:19 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 15:29:30 <|amethyst> e.g. if it says "it can kill you in 2 turns", and you take a 13-aut swing and the monster gets two attacks and kills you, players might be annoyed 15:29:59 |amethyst: I'd only count single actions 15:31:34 what does paralysis count as 15:34:21 -!- THERetroGamerNY has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 15:34:32 -!- protopulse has joined ##crawl-dev 15:34:55 -!- insecticide17 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 15:35:52 guess I'll leave it that :) I think it could help players to develop a better intitution for monster damage 15:36:43 idk. i'm being reflexively negative; it could be fine (if we could find some way to reasonably communicate it to the player!) i worry that we'd only be able to indicate some subset of monster attack types (e.g. not starcursed masses), and you'd have a lot of ui and code burden for little benefit 15:36:46 idk tho 15:37:06 i tend to be anti-change by default, so i don't trust my judgement here 15:37:09 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.93 [Firefox 49.0.2/20161019084923]] 15:38:49 <|amethyst> My thought is that by phrasing it as "can kill you in two actions" or such, we are implicitly making a promise that it can't kill you in one action, and unless we're 1. very clear about what we mean by an action, and 2. correct in our calculations (including things like starcursed screams, spells, etc), we might break that promise sometime 15:38:56 <|amethyst> s 15:39:42 <|amethyst> But maybe adding a small-print footnote is good enough :) 15:39:49 !tell Lasty Uskayaw's Line Pass does not adequately communicate why it won't work sometimes -- such as invisible opponent, or gap in the line. Hearing a couple complaints about the lack of a message 15:39:49 Brannock: OK, I'll let lasty know. 15:40:08 !tell Lasty also Grand Finale at low Invo chances sometimes doesn't tell you when it fizzles, iirc 15:40:08 Brannock: OK, I'll let lasty know. 15:41:17 re: damage feedback, maybe 'action' is the wrong way to go around it? "Can kill you in two blows" or something that specifically cites the physical attack 15:41:19 would there be problems if the monster is wielding a weapon? 15:41:43 like if a monster is wielding a +X weapon would we have to start revealing that 15:41:44 <|amethyst> presumably you'd include weapon, attack flavour, brand, and staff bonus damage 15:41:48 <|amethyst> ah 15:41:55 -!- bgiannan_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:42:25 <|amethyst> I'd assume +0 unless you know the enchantment, but I guess there are arguments for using +9 (or +12) instead 15:42:49 I remember I fought an ijyb with a +9 club once 15:42:52 Brannock: yes, this would be better than actions, I think 15:43:08 <|amethyst> Brannock: would have to decide what to do about monsters with multi-attacks 15:43:10 anyway, just a random idea because PF actually started something on damage feedback 15:43:38 <|amethyst> Brannock: e.g. does an ettin's attack action count as one blow or two? 15:44:17 <|amethyst> Brannock: but I think you're right that it's better than "action" or such 15:44:26 <|amethyst> Brannock: and means we don't have to worry about spells yet :) 15:44:39 the attack is a single action in itself, so I'd count both blows as one "attack" 15:44:39 or is it? 15:44:59 <|amethyst> it is a single action, so I would call it one "attack", but the example wording you used said "blows" 15:45:27 <|amethyst> but I guess there's nothing wrong with "in two attacks" 15:45:43 !tell Lasty After my second Uskayaw win I think U is one of the strongest gods in the game, especially after midgame. I expect to see Usk become a strong alternative to TSO for "go-to postgame god". Mass paralysis and Pain Bond *significantly* softens nasty crowds, and are especially helpful in open areas (frequent in V:$, Depths, Zot, Hell). 15:45:44 Brannock: OK, I'll let lasty know. 15:46:34 <|amethyst> !lg Brannock won usk -log 15:46:35 No games for Brannock (won usk). 15:46:38 CJR 15:46:46 <|amethyst> what kind of Invo was that? 15:46:58 27 for both games. The scaling is so good 15:47:04 Ds apt helps, certainly 15:47:38 <|amethyst> a god that encourages you to get 27 invocations??? 15:47:41 <|amethyst> heresy! 15:48:05 The other thing is Stomp is guaranteed damage, which helps significantly for finishing off low-health opponents without risking missing and such. I'd frequently stomp to seal a kill 15:48:29 <|amethyst> ??stomp 15:48:29 stomp[1/1]: Uskayaw * power. Damages all monsters around the player. Damage is monster_current_hp / 6 + 2d(2 + Invo/2). 15:48:47 <|amethyst> um 15:48:55 <|amethyst> that sounds a bit good... 15:49:39 <|amethyst> oh, current, not max, so not quite as good as I was thinking, but still 15:49:50 <|amethyst> maybe I should actually use Stomp when I play Usk :) 15:49:57 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:50:02 it's very good, and it reducing your piety also helps for getting multiple paralyses off 15:50:18 even early on it helps a lot against killer bee packs 15:50:51 <|amethyst> I haven't gotten a good feel for when you get paralyse 15:50:58 <|amethyst> I should probably read the code, but 15:52:46 Brannock: are you sure about the multiple paralyse? 15:53:10 -!- kdrnic has joined ##crawl-dev 15:55:02 oh, tested it out, and it looks like it's not related to current piety, but rather piety gain I think? 15:55:06 I should probably just look at the code instead 15:55:33 Brannock: I think I've seen Lasty make comments how this is taken care of... 15:56:59 I'm pretty sure reducing piety to trigger paralysis again isn't supposed to be a thing, yeah 15:57:05 it isn't 15:57:45 iirc there's just some random duration timeout and if you are still above the necessary piety when the timeout runs out then you get another paralysis, or something like that 15:57:55 !source godpassive.cc:1426 15:57:55 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/godpassive.cc#L1426 15:57:57 yes, elliptic 15:58:01 yeah that's correct 15:58:27 not very obvious from the player perspective so I mistakenly attributed it to piety gain/loss 15:58:32 that happens a lot 15:58:53 Brannock: btw I agree that usk's current balance is such that it is especially strong in lategame 15:58:58 i would phrase it differently: as soon as you are both above the piety breakpoint and past the timeout, you get paralysis 15:59:23 which has the effect that most of the time it activates when you cross *** for the first time, because you're usually not on cooldown at that point 15:59:48 but you maximise the amount of paralysis by staying at or above ***, not by dipping back below it 15:59:55 yes 16:00:05 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:00:09 and, of course, resetting your piety via Grand Finale takes a few turns to build enough piety to paralyse again, and the timer will have ran out by then 16:01:35 well, not necessarily 16:01:50 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 16:02:06 the timer is fairly long 16:03:35 dpeg: I think "this guy can kill you with its next action!" is pretty misleading for some monsters 16:03:53 @??the lernaean hydra 16:03:53 the Lernaean hydra (08D) | Spd: 10 (swim: 60%) | HD: 30 | HP: 120-172 | AC/EV: 0/5 | Dam: 18 per head | amphibious, cold-blooded, regen | Res: 06magic(120), 03poison, 12drown | Chunks: 14noxious | XP: 5250 | Sz: Giant | Int: animal. 16:05:14 this will almost always say that even at full health (unless you have a lot of HP and GDR both) 16:05:24 even if it isn't that dangerous to a lot of characters 16:05:43 this monster has an x% chance to kill you now 16:06:09 that starts to get pretty hard to compute accurately 16:06:46 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 16:07:33 the code claims the timer is at least 30 turns (300 aut plus 0-200) but I was able to trigger a second paralyse in 16 turns 16:08:05 since you're such a good customer 16:09:59 Brannock: hm, yes, this code in _handle_uskayaw_time is confusing 16:10:13 !source _handle_uskayaw_time 16:10:13 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/player-reacts.cc#L424 16:10:57 that does not look like a fixed time minimum to me 16:11:04 yeah 16:11:23 it looks like it just gets more likely to happen as the timer approaches 0 16:11:44 but you could get paralysis on two consecutive turns? 16:18:10 IMO this code would be simpler and have a similar effect if it just replaced 300 + random2(201) by random2(501) or so and removed the x_chance_in_y in _handle_uskayaw_time 16:18:33 and maybe there should be some small fixed time minimum anyway 16:21:49 -!- twelwe has joined ##crawl-dev 16:21:53 ready 16:22:25 set 16:22:30 -!- sooheon has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 16:22:31 elliptic: yes, possibly. Short of giving percentages (which I am against), I couldn't up with something better to indicate imminent danger. 16:23:40 the current code also rewards taking fast actions - for instance if the timer is at 400 and you take a 10 aut action then it has a 2% chance of triggering, but if instead you take two 5 aut actions then it has a 2.2% chance of triggering on one of the two actions 16:23:57 not a large effect, but I don't see any reason to do things this way 16:24:27 -!- _Jordan_ has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 16:26:10 hmm 16:26:26 !tell elliptic look at _handle_uskayaw_time again at some point 16:26:26 elliptic: OK, I'll let elliptic know. 16:26:36 http://puu.sh/smLR8/fa6a9b6aeb.png 16:26:43 do qaz clouds have the ability to do this?! 16:27:16 -!- ElanMorin has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.6] 16:27:44 lightning is weird like that 16:27:44 elliptic: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 16:28:38 -!- Poncheis has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 16:29:53 !read elliptic message 16:30:02 god damn it still doesnt work 16:30:04 secret qaz strats... 16:34:17 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:37:27 -!- Cryp71c has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:46:15 what's the command for tournament statistics? 16:47:49 dpeg: we're missing some servers in Sequell still, I believe 16:47:49 gammafunk: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 16:47:56 &versions 0.19 16:48:05 CAO: 0.19.0-22-gd96e5fe, CBRO: 0.19.0-22-gd96e5fe, CDO: none, CJR: none, CPO: 0.19.0, CUE: none, CWZ: 0.19.0-2-gae57169, CXC: 0.19.0-22-gd96e5fe, LLD: 0.19.0-19-g8c6edcc 16:48:13 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:48:30 gammafunk: will they be ready by Sunday? 16:49:29 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 16:49:51 PleasingFungus: weird, when I was testing locally that inf reader had only the minor version of the current crawl 16:50:20 that was how I initially tried to do compat but 16:50:28 dpeg: greensnark is the only one who can add them to sequell, I think (we should really set up some better way of doing this one of these days) 16:50:53 dpeg: it doesn't affect actual scoring from the t scripts, just from sequell 16:50:58 !source _load_map_cache 16:50:58 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/maps.cc#L1317 16:51:11 !source _load_map_index 16:51:11 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/maps.cc#L1253 16:51:17 gammafunk: it means that we can't admire !tstats output though! 16:51:34 oh yes, it's sad that we don't have it! 16:51:34 elliptic: shall I mail the green snark? 16:51:56 gammafunk: it only does have the minor version of the current crawl, afaik 16:51:57 but it doesn't prevent scoring for players (or tournament organizers) 16:52:01 oh 16:52:05 turnout seems to have been increased a bit 16:52:06 nvm i misunderstood you 16:52:26 yeah, like at https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/maps.cc#L1280 16:52:31 it's initialized with that 16:52:38 so there's something I just don't understand 16:52:51 dpeg: I don't know whether other people have already done so or whether people have just been trying to ping him on irc 16:53:14 I've been trying to ping him during the t, yeah 16:53:31 dpeg: an email would be good, maybe I should have tried that as well 16:54:34 next t, consider making sure key people are not on vacation first >.> 16:55:11 elliptic: mail sent 16:55:12 unlikely 16:55:29 technically we don't need sequell to run the tournament 16:55:33 next t: make sure the survey is ready :) 16:55:40 !seen chequers 16:55:40 I last saw chequers at Fri Nov 18 11:42:35 2016 UTC (10h 13m 4s ago) saying 'or variable/large*' on ##crawl-dev. 16:55:57 dpeg: next t dpeg will volunteer to make all of this happen 16:56:21 gammafunk: if for some reason you want to make sure there's no tournament, then that's a pretty good plan! 16:56:53 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:57:27 !lg * t0.18 / won 16:57:39 1361/75764 games for * (t0.18): N=1361/75764 (1.80%) 16:57:39 dpeg: if you don't participate in the management, you don't get to complain! 16:57:41 !lg * t0.17 / won 16:57:54 1403/87997 games for * (t0.17): N=1403/87997 (1.59%) 16:58:02