00:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00:20 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 00:00:24 -!- adelrune has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:00:44 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.20-a0-38-g7d30548 (34) 00:01:05 -!- simmarine_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:01:38 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 00:02:45 Stable (0.19) branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.19.0-16-g73b5abf 00:09:35 -!- Gilihad has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:10:44 http://i.imgur.com/4yWzteu.png if only there was some more elegant way to access spellbooks 00:11:05 -!- nicolae- has left ##crawl-dev 00:11:48 -!- FunkyBomb has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:13:54 Doesnty: you can put them on one space you know 00:14:00 and then stand on them and press M 00:14:02 i know 00:14:05 i'm watching people 00:14:06 to get a list of every spell in the stack 00:14:09 ohh 00:14:13 well then uh 00:14:24 need Kappa 00:14:27 clearly that is the most efficient organization possible 00:14:29 so we know :P 00:14:37 sry 00:14:59 btw 00:15:11 is announcements spam better now 00:15:20 well 00:15:36 I'm not in control of jorgrell/eksell 00:15:37 but I reduce Kramell's a lot 00:15:42 *reduced 00:17:18 a while ago it was nice to see that it was handling almost all of the messages but there were still too many 00:17:21 for me anyway 00:17:28 i'll un-ignore him for a bit 00:20:11 at the moment jorgrell's the chattiest bot 00:21:38 but in any case, I'd say ignoring is kind of the point: if you ignore the server bots, you can't query them either. if you ignore kramell when things are spammy/busy, you're not losing functionality 00:22:09 -!- Zxpr2jk has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:22:22 yeah i really do appreciate that aspect 00:22:27 i query sequell a lot 00:22:42 there was also talk of moving much of the botspam to ##crawl-announce. that actually seems slightly risky to me (especially during tourney; I'm imagining kramell getting autokicked a lot :) 00:22:59 -!- eraservedd has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:23:40 well, sequell was never an announce bot. but sequell relays some queries to the server bots, and there are other occasionally useful commands for querying your (or someone else's) active game state instead of just the latest milestone 00:23:42 ideally Kramell posts enough that it's informative without anyone feeling the need to ignore it 00:27:14 -!- agolden has joined ##crawl-dev 00:27:36 -!- adibis has joined ##crawl-dev 00:30:08 is there a rule that we don’t do unrandarts based on real-world mythologies? I notice that there’s no exalibur, mjolnir, shield of achilles, that sort of thing. 00:31:59 agolden: i dunno that it's a rule but most of those things have appeared in a million other games 00:33:37 -!- hpp3 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:35:24 -!- twelwe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:37:52 there's an aversion to cliched fantasy/tolkeinism 00:38:11 got it 00:40:00 -!- nimitz has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:41:46 and for this reason, remove halflings 00:48:17 They delve into the Dungeon because of their instinctive 00:48:17 love of twisting passageways. 00:48:23 might be the worst lore out of all species 00:48:35 minotaurs? 00:48:57 -!- destroythecore has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:52:04 yeah 00:54:06 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:01:53 remove kobolds, because crawl is not d&d 01:01:55 keep halflings 01:03:27 !lm bcb 01:03:29 394. [2016-11-10 05:29:45] gammafunk the Destroyer (L13 MuVM of Hepliaklqana) reached level 6 of the Lair of Beasts on turn 26105. (Lair:6) 01:03:32 MUMMIES 01:03:46 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 01:04:00 -!- adibis has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:04:30 !lm . ancestor 01:04:31 1. [2016-11-10 03:35:44] gammafunk the Stinger (L8 MuVM of Hepliaklqana) remembered their ancestor Woat voted Trump as a hexer on turn 10443. 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It will appear shortly on the tournament website (if it hasn't yet). Type "=nemelex XXXX" to update !nchoice with the new combo, where XXXX should be replaced by the new combo. 04:20:29 =nemelex HaSu 04:20:32 Defined keyword: nchoice => OpWr|HEAr|KoIE|DDAE|CeVM|HOWz|GrEn|GhCj|FeAK|VSSu|DEHu|VpAK|HaSu 04:20:36 !nchoice 04:20:40 HaSu: 0 wins || joy1999: CWZ, L12 Spear-Bearer of Kikubaaqudgha || slitherrr: CBRO, L5 Vandal of Dithmenos 04:23:17 -!- Guest74046 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:23:30 -!- MadCoyote has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:25:05 -!- M-bbigras has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:33:45 -!- joy19999 is now known as joy1999 04:36:21 -!- SteelNeuron has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:38:11 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:47:14 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 04:48:26 -!- madatmemes has joined ##crawl-dev 04:48:55 -!- bhaak has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:49:20 -!- Dingo has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:49:37 -!- Azzkikr has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:49:43 -!- bhaak has joined ##crawl-dev 04:54:49 -!- panicbit has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:14:51 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:29:46 -!- antsan has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:47:32 -!- insecticide12 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:50:06 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:00:13 -!- omarax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:03:40 -!- mopl has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:16:08 -!- jefus- has joined ##crawl-dev 06:18:37 -!- Timinator has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:18:48 -!- debo_ has joined ##crawl-dev 06:19:00 -!- Timinator has quit [Client Quit] 06:19:12 -!- debo_ is now known as Guest85777 06:19:56 -!- jeefus has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 06:22:58 -!- Guest85777 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:28:55 -!- ees has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:54:54 -!- TuxQmoob has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:54:57 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:55:05 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Changing host] 06:55:36 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 07:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:00:21 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:02:55 New branch created: pull/392 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/392 07:02:55 03AndSDev02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/392 * 0.20-a0-39-gb9ea769: WebTiles. Show unvisited areas on minimap. Fix #389. 10(9 minutes ago, 1 file, 19+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b9ea7690d3f6 07:15:27 -!- Patashu__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:15:27 -!- wheals_ has joined ##crawl-dev 07:15:27 -!- crate has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:15:28 -!- Zekka_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:16:40 -!- us17 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:17:24 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 07:18:23 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:19:44 -!- madatmemes has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:29:44 -!- madatmemes has joined ##crawl-dev 07:39:15 -!- Zekka_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:39:27 -!- crate has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:43:21 -!- wheals_ is now known as wheals 07:49:20 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 07:54:55 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:57:31 -!- CrazyArbalest has quit [Client Quit] 07:58:51 -!- Patashu__ has joined ##crawl-dev 08:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:00:13 -!- Ge0ff has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:08:36 -!- _Jordan_ has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 08:16:19 Stable (0.19) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.19.0-16-g73b5abf 08:19:02 -!- debo_ has joined ##crawl-dev 08:19:25 -!- debo_ is now known as Guest34419 08:20:08 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:23:19 -!- Guest34419 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:43:10 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:43:29 sicily (L3 DDBe) ERROR in 'bitary.h' at line 62: bit vector range error: 192 / 16 (D:2) 08:44:04 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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I got 152 entries in the span of 9 turns :D 13:56:25 -!- jefus has quit [Client Quit] 13:56:57 -!- jefus has joined ##crawl-dev 13:57:07 oh, i blame mpa 13:57:58 fwiw tile_full_screen still works here 13:58:20 oh, hm, no it doesn't 13:58:24 splash screen is fullscreen 13:58:31 game got tiled by window manager 13:58:45 !tell MarvinPA "Killed a starspawn tentacle segment" is now showing up in notes after those tentacle danger changes. one of us should probably fix that 13:58:45 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let marvinpa know. 13:58:45 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:59:56 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 14:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:11:39 03PleasingFungus02 07[stone_soup-0.19] * 0.19.0-17-g07987d3: Revert tentacle threat changes 10(2 minutes ago, 2 files, 2+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/07987d31bd40 14:11:53 -!- SteelNeuron has joined ##crawl-dev 14:13:38 Stable (0.19) branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.19.0-17-g07987d3 14:14:33 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:14:38 -!- sooheon has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:14:59 Stable (0.19) branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.19.0-17-g07987d3 14:15:17 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 14:20:01 -!- insecticide12 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:22:56 -!- adelrune has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:27:48 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.20-a0-39-g8de2fe2: Don't make notes for tentacles (ElanMorin) 10(29 seconds ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8de2fe206d36 14:29:18 Stable (0.19) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.19.0-17-g07987d3 14:30:29 -!- ElanMorin has left ##crawl-dev 14:30:55 -!- dtsund has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:36:28 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:57:36 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:03:35 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 15:03:43 -!- Kalir has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:05:39 -!- agolden has quit [Quit: agolden] 15:06:54 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 15:09:35 Stable (0.19) branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19.0-17-g07987d3 15:12:25 -!- kdrnic has joined ##crawl-dev 15:16:27 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 15:16:40 !tmie 15:16:43 !time 15:16:43 Time: Nov 10, 2016, 08:16:43 PM, UTC. The 2016 0.19 tournament ends in 9 days, 23 hours, 43 minutes and 16 seconds. 15:18:27 -!- ebarrett_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:18:52 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.20-a0-39-g8de2fe2 (34) 15:19:45 -!- MisterMentat has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:22:05 -!- Shinino has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:24:50 -!- Findleman has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:25:18 -!- agolden has joined ##crawl-dev 15:26:23 -!- agolden has quit [Client Quit] 15:26:47 -!- adelrune has joined ##crawl-dev 15:27:33 -!- DevlanMud has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 15:37:28 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 49.0.2/20161019084923]] 15:51:56 -!- bgiannan1 has joined ##crawl-dev 15:52:19 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 15:53:37 -!- Patashu__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:56:25 -!- Ge0ff has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:59:57 -!- bgiannan1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:05:47 !nchoice 16:05:47 gammafunk: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 16:05:48 Time for a new nchoice! It will appear shortly on the tournament website (if it hasn't yet). Type "=nemelex XXXX" to update !nchoice with the new combo, where XXXX should be replaced by the new combo. 16:05:57 =nemelex TeAM 16:06:00 Defined keyword: nchoice => OpWr|HEAr|KoIE|DDAE|CeVM|HOWz|GrEn|GhCj|FeAK|VSSu|DEHu|VpAK|HaSu|TeAM 16:06:15 !nchoice 16:06:19 TeAM: 0 wins || Dynast: CBRO, L7 Bolt Thrower of Nemelex Xobeh || howech: CBRO, L1 Ducker of No God 16:06:27 of course Dynast 16:10:43 03PabloMansanet02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/387 * 0.20-a0-68-g8cf6af4: Fix bug triggering extra martial attacks 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8cf6af4029c5 16:10:45 hmm 16:11:03 koboldina has some duplicate games listed on her player page 16:11:07 http://crawl.akrasiac.org/scoring/players/koboldina.html 16:11:11 93-96 16:13:34 CanOfWorms: known issue, cao scoring db will be rebuilt after t 16:13:41 ah 16:13:51 cjr had 0.19 logfile that was incorrectly linked the trunk one 16:13:59 <|amethyst> maybe not immediately after t, but sometime 16:14:02 good ol cjr 16:14:13 <|amethyst> it takes a day or two, so 16:14:27 -!- adibis has joined ##crawl-dev 16:14:44 <|amethyst> !lm * 1 rstart~~2013 16:14:50 <|amethyst> hm 16:14:56 &versions 0.19 16:15:06 <|amethyst> !lm * 16:15:07 CAO: 0.19.0-17-g07987d3, CBRO: 0.19.0-17-g07987d3, CDO: none, CJR: none, CPO: 0.19.0, CUE: none, CWZ: 0.19.0-2-gae57169, CXC: 0.19.0-17-g07987d3, LLD: 0.19.0-9-gfd783f2 16:15:14 1/2713442. [2007-04-09 01:44:37] Sigurd the Charm-Maker (L5 HECr) entered the Ecumenical Temple on turn 4821. (Temple) 16:15:19 27062536. [2016-11-10 21:15:01] chemotherapy the Ducker (L1 DsGl) began the quest for the Orb on turn 0. (D:1) 16:15:27 at this rate we may not see 0.19 in sequell until after tourney 16:15:28 -!- escu has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:16:19 <|amethyst> !lm * 13531268 16:16:36 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:16:39 Chequers broke sequell? 16:17:49 90s limit exceeded: killed !lm * 13531268 16:18:00 <|amethyst> hm 16:18:27 <|amethyst> !lm * rstart>=2013 16:18:44 22347959. [2016-11-10 21:17:04] Qqwix the Cleaver (L9 MiGl of Ru) killed Duvessa on turn 6505. (D:7) 16:18:50 <|amethyst> !lm * rstart>=2012 16:18:57 <|amethyst> oh, oop 16:19:03 <|amethyst> !lm * rstart>=2014 16:19:08 24304436. [2016-11-10 21:19:03] herpmino the Severer (L16 DDAr of Makhleb) entered the Elven Halls on turn 29797. (Orc:2) 16:19:23 19720853. [2016-11-10 21:19:03] herpmino the Severer (L16 DDAr of Makhleb) entered the Elven Halls on turn 29797. (Orc:2) 16:19:27 <|amethyst> !lm * rstart>=2015 16:19:38 14426640. [2016-11-10 21:19:03] herpmino the Severer (L16 DDAr of Makhleb) entered the Elven Halls on turn 29797. (Orc:2) 16:19:47 -!- Zxpr1jk has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:19:47 <|amethyst> !lm * rstart>=20150201 16:19:48 -!- OrphineM has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:19:59 13585674. [2016-11-10 21:19:03] herpmino the Severer (L16 DDAr of Makhleb) entered the Elven Halls on turn 29797. (Orc:2) 16:20:14 <|amethyst> !lm * rstart>=20150215 16:20:25 13267704. [2016-11-10 21:19:03] herpmino the Severer (L16 DDAr of Makhleb) entered the Elven Halls on turn 29797. (Orc:2) 16:20:33 <|amethyst> !lm * rstart>=20150202 16:20:44 13569972. [2016-11-10 21:19:03] herpmino the Severer (L16 DDAr of Makhleb) entered the Elven Halls on turn 29797. (Orc:2) 16:20:52 <|amethyst> !lm * rstart>=20150204 16:21:03 13535167. [2016-11-10 21:19:03] herpmino the Severer (L16 DDAr of Makhleb) entered the Elven Halls on turn 29797. (Orc:2) 16:22:16 <|amethyst> There have been approximately as many milestones after Feb 4, 2015 as there were before then 16:22:21 <|amethyst> s/after/since/ 16:22:57 <|amethyst> err, March 4 16:23:32 -!- Kalir has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:24:08 <|amethyst> so as many in the past 20 months as in the 95-ish months before that 16:24:50 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:24:52 -!- kdrnic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:25:52 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 16:27:07 -!- escu has joined ##crawl-dev 16:27:41 when did milestones for starting a game become a thing 16:29:08 !lm * begin 1 16:29:15 !lm * begin 1 x=cv,vlong 16:29:58 1/3545755. [2014-01-24 22:35:33] qwqw the Shield-Bearer (L1 HuFi) began the quest for the Orb on turn 0. (D:1) 16:30:02 <|amethyst> ah, good point 16:30:04 1/3545760. [2014-01-24 22:35:33] [cv=0.14-a;vlong=] qwqw the Shield-Bearer (L1 HuFi) began the quest for the Orb on turn 0. (D:1) 16:30:05 <|amethyst> !lm * / begin 16:30:12 3545760/27062881 milestones for *: N=3545760/27062881 (13.10%) 16:32:40 -!- madatmemes has joined ##crawl-dev 16:43:57 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 16:45:01 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 16:46:01 -!- adelrune has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:49:21 -!- Awod has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:54:02 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 16:54:59 -!- ElanMorin has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.5] 16:58:27 -!- Bammboo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:59:23 whoever came up with the shoals vault that's like a volcano with a bunch of fire crabs and has a ton of avatars around it is pretty devious 17:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:00:13 ....windows 10 deleted a thing i drew, excellent 17:00:34 by auto-restarting 17:00:40 -!- Jetnerd has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:00:48 -!- Kalir has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:00:52 -!- GiantOwl is now known as Kalir 17:00:52 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 17:01:36 Hey ontoclasm :) got any tips for drawing crawl tiles? Any particular pixel art tutorials to follow? 17:02:58 -!- Bammboo00 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:03:04 hm 17:03:34 %git b8068419c75 17:03:34 07reaverb02 * 0.17-a0-1663-gb806841: Remove the M_FLEES 10(1 year, 3 months ago, 5 files, 4+ 29-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b8068419c757 17:03:47 SteelNeuron: how new are you to pixel art? 17:04:04 a good basic guide might be http://makegames.tumblr.com/post/42648699708/pixel-art-tutorial 17:04:05 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 17:04:08 Completely 17:04:14 anything written by derek yu is excellent 17:04:18 I know what dithering is and that I should be careful when drawing curves 17:04:21 that's about it haha 17:04:36 Thanks, that looks good :) 17:04:43 gammafunk: ? 17:04:51 how dare you question me! 17:05:00 a good first Thing to Try 17:05:09 is to pixel a sphere that looks properly spherical 17:05:48 try doing it with maybe 5 colors, and choose the colors carefully so as to have a good color ramp 17:06:07 -!- adibis has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:06:28 I will try some general stuff first, but having Crawl tiles as a goal, is there anything particular I'd have to keep in mind? 17:06:30 pf, did you see my extremely good monster interaction I mentioned yesterday 17:06:44 "The cherub sings a powerful hymn. The profane servitor goes into a battle-frenzy!" 17:06:49 Any dos or dont's for colour schemes that will or won't work for crawl? 17:06:54 well, crawl has* a sort of "house style" as it were 17:07:19 CanOfWorms: did see that 17:07:22 monsters should be bright, sharply shaded, and ~70% saturated usually 17:07:28 @??profane servitor 17:07:28 profane servitor (05A) | Spd: 15 | HD: 18 | HP: 125-177 | AC/EV: 10/20 | Dam: 2505(vampiric), 1013(drain) | 07undead, 10items, 10doors, fighter, evil, see invisible, fly, unbreathing | Res: 06magic(140), 02cold, 10elec, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 08cleanse, 13torm | XP: 3870 | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 17:07:37 hrm 17:07:40 ah, genus 17:07:51 items are a little darker and less saturated, and terrain even less so 17:08:03 !tell MarvinPA i fixed it 17:08:03 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let marvinpa know. 17:08:53 oh finally 17:08:55 the famine is over 17:08:56 .gfgk 17:08:58 124. Konquest the Severer (L15 GrBe of Trog), slain by a stone giant in WizLab (wizlab_lehudib) on 2016-11-10 19:26:38, with 67662 points after 18585 turns and 0:29:43. 17:09:01 .gfgk x=src 17:09:02 124. [src=cbro] Konquest the Severer (L15 GrBe of Trog), slain by a stone giant in WizLab (wizlab_lehudib) on 2016-11-10 19:26:38, with 67662 points after 18585 turns and 0:29:43. 17:09:02 lol 17:09:28 i would say the nagas are a good set of things to look at in terms of color etc. 17:09:38 i made them recently and they're some of my favorites 17:09:45 PleasingFungus: my twitch vod of hep is on my twitch videos page if you want to learn how to play the god you designed optimally 17:09:51 merfolk i made around the same time 17:09:55 I dominated the late game 17:10:01 -!- adelrune has joined ##crawl-dev 17:10:18 by which I mean I almost died to a fire dragon I couldn't kill for armour I didn't need 17:10:24 tiles by canofworms and roctavian are also excellent 17:10:28 Thanks ontoclasm, that will be a good place to start :) 17:10:29 you dumb hexer didn't hex it! 17:10:53 Woat voted Trump had one job to do, and he didn't do it 17:10:54 I needed an excuse to learn some pixel art, so I will see if I can get some practice and work on the tiles for my god idea, then maybe make a tile for an unrandart or something 17:11:11 if you want, i can point you to some tiles that... would be very easy to improve on 17:11:12 xD 17:11:14 yeah that looks like a nice little tutorial 17:11:21 I keep meaning to get into doing pixel art 17:11:34 since CanOfWorms apparently doesn't love me enough to give me a fancy new sif altar 17:11:37 I may have to do it myself... 17:11:39 derek yu is an excellent pixel artist 17:11:42 please do! 17:11:59 can gammafunk craft a tile more marvelous than pf's howler monkey? 17:12:06 he did all the spelunky art for new/old spelunky (in addition to designing the game), right? 17:12:12 another person to look at for good examples and tutorials is arne 17:12:15 not sure about the new art 17:12:25 03PabloMansanet02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/387 * 0.20-a0-69-g7330e93: Reduce pressure point chance + add piety cost to weapon projection 10(4 minutes ago, 2 files, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7330e93ce535 17:12:28 maybe he had some help for new spelunky, but regardless the art in both games is great 17:12:28 but he did the pixel art for old spelunky 17:12:28 i've done a lot of tiles at this point 17:12:28 A style of pixel art I really like it's Duelyst's, although it's more about the aniamtions I guess 17:12:28 also doomrl is derek yu 17:12:29 not any good ones, but there's a few still around 17:13:06 gammafunk: should've taken battlemage :) 17:13:15 there are a lot of good piel artists 17:13:17 *pixel 17:13:19 ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7DbtPfhtJk ) 17:13:20 abysswolf 17:13:20 well I was mu, and I wanted to survive 17:13:22 jinn 17:13:25 woat did good work in early game 17:13:32 http://ahruon.tumblr.com/ < abysswolf 17:13:48 http://jinndevil.tumblr.com/ < jinn 17:16:20 SteelNeuron: oh one thing 17:16:39 some artists use dithering all the time but in crawl we largely don't 17:16:51 i only dither to create texture, e.g. for chainmail 17:17:28 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:17:36 to combat banding, i add structure instead 17:18:28 do you have a favorite tile of yours that you've done, ontoclasm? 17:18:38 is it the wasp one that I see you using on tavern? 17:18:59 yeah, the wasp is one of my favorites 17:19:15 hmm, i'd have to think 17:20:04 i love my TRL 17:20:07 TRJ* 17:20:25 it's good 17:21:46 !lg twelwe t ru 17:21:47 1. twelwe the Grappler (L9 GhMo of Ru), slain by Urug (a +4 demon trident) on D:11 on 2016-11-09 21:43:22, with 2385 points after 8360 turns and 0:29:04. 17:21:55 !log twelwe t ru 17:21:56 1. twelwe, XL9 GhMo, T:8360: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/twelwe/morgue-twelwe-20161109-214322.txt 17:22:10 !tell twelwe the freed slave was hostile to you because you'd sacrificed love 17:22:10 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let twelwe know. 17:24:49 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest92808 17:25:01 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 17:26:26 -!- bannakaffalatta has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 17:27:17 I'm trying to think what my favorite tile is 17:27:37 I have a huge weak spot for weapons 17:27:53 your favorite tile is The Original Greatsling Tile. 17:28:02 also, please make artefact tiles for ranged weapons. 17:28:18 I like the shadow imp tile from last year 17:28:33 You couldn't see it, so it was like an extra fun challenge 17:28:52 I also really like the altars 17:28:57 Hep's is really mysterious 17:29:29 specifically for: fustibali, hunting slings and triple crossbows 17:29:34 since those only have normal and ego tiles 17:29:57 -!- PsiRedEye22 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 17:30:11 oh, i really like the arga tile too 17:30:27 and arbalests 17:33:47 In any case, good night and thanks for the pixel art stuff 17:34:13 o/ 17:34:19 -!- SteelNeuron has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:43:49 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:49:00 -!- Kranix has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 17:51:49 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Quit: I like to rock] 17:55:23 -!- anubisbafoobis has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:05:05 -!- THERetroGamerNY has quit [Quit: Be Blessed!] 18:06:22 -!- LordSloth has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 18:13:26 amalloy: PleasingFungus: are either of you willing to do interum OS X builds (unsigned) for 0.19? I think geekosaur is still planning to work on signed ones, but it's been a while after the release, so it might be nice to go ahead and get something usable for OS X people 18:13:28 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.20-a0-39-g8de2fe2 (34) 18:14:22 * geekosaur has actually had two almost reasonable days in a row, has been catching up on stuff, and hopes to at least get the build env up tonight sometime 18:14:29 oh, great, thanks geekosaur 18:14:32 that said, interim builds might be a good idea 18:14:35 oh, ok 18:14:38 that's great too! 18:14:54 since I almost always end up losing a couple days to the build env bitrotting somehow (thanks Apple) 18:15:01 thapple 18:15:33 and I still have to deal with the damned certs, although I can at least do that while working on the build env and getting initial builds done, since signing has to happen afterward on a different OS than the build 18:15:55 (because 10.7/10.8 can't make signatures that work on 10.10+) 18:16:25 and the build has to be on an older os for compatibility, iirc? 18:16:34 i wonder how many people still run older os xs 18:16:53 oh, does that have to be the case for it to work in older OS? 18:17:23 yeah I don't know what build under what OS works with previous OS 18:17:33 I don't have access to any OS X machines anyhow 18:18:04 https://www.intego.com/mac-security-blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/OSX-Market-Share-Supported-Bleeding.png 18:18:07 it's easy to make releasable zips under OS X, just a different make target 18:18:08 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:18:35 and you can make it from a clone in a different dir 18:18:46 so if any OS X people want to step up and do a build, just let me know... 18:19:30 -!- idwe has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:19:31 v0v 18:19:32 maybe later 18:20:56 a given xcode version only works with limited number of os x versions, and only provides sdks for a slightly larger number of os x versions. moving sdks to different xcode versions may or may not work 18:22:13 c++11 limits us to 10.7 and later as 10.6 and earlier don't have c++11 support. (this matters for e.g. local tiles. there's a fairly heavyweight way to get console builds for 10.5/10.6, but sdl needs native gui interfaces that are not available in a c++11 compatible form on those versions) 18:23:46 additionally it's nearly impossible to find 10.7 in an installable form, and 10.6 and earlier need special VM hacks to run, so 10.8 is the effective minimum for doing builds. luckly its xcode supports 10.7 sdk, so it can build for 10.7 and later 18:23:53 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 18:24:51 (note that this may not last forever; 10.13 may not be capable of running things built for pre-10.10 --- this was rumored for 10.12 but didn't actually happen. so at some point in the future we'll need 2 mac builds) 18:26:29 but v1 signatures made on os x < 10.10 are not considered valid on 10.10 and up, which want v2 signatures, so I have to build on 10.8 for 10.7 and then sign on 10.11 (I am not installing 10.12, except maybe in a VM if I need it) 18:29:22 one other potential complication: I will need to revoke my existing certs to get new ones. this means that 10.10+ will consider anything signed with them to be invalid, if checking is enabled. but I am not that worried about this, because Apple screwing up my certs means that we go from things signed with them not working for many to them not working for anyone... 18:29:55 is there any particular reason why we need to keep supporting arbitrarily old versions of os x? 18:30:18 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:30:44 geekosaur: is 10.12 really bad in some way? 18:30:49 I haven't used the OS in a long time 18:31:08 because people want them? macports is still supporting back to 10.3 in many cases, and while homebrew itself doesn't put too much effort into backward compat, they do have the tigerbrew spinoff 18:31:20 not sure if the last I used was Lion or Yosemite 18:31:38 -!- scummos__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:31:44 or...whatever is after Lion...I think it was Lion anyhow 18:31:58 mostly, 10.12 complicates some things I do for work 18:32:28 and apple screwed up the back compat so I can't build for 10.11 from it (and xcode 8 for 10.11 has the same screwup and can't build properly for 10.11 either! siigh) 18:41:30 -!- Ge0ff has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:42:56 geekosaur: ignoring signing issues for a second, could someone on 10.10-10.12 build for 10.9 and up? 18:43:09 just in terms of making a build that would get up 10.9 and up 18:44:17 they would have to pull a 10.9 SDK out of an older xcode, and there's no guarantee the old SDK would work with the new xcode 18:44:24 hrm 18:44:38 in particular xcode 8 seems to have broken multiple SDKs, see earlier comment about 10.11 builds 18:44:46 if we only supported 10.10 and up, would that be easier (again for an interum build) 18:44:47 and nothing older than xcode 8 will work on 10.12 18:44:49 -!- Guest92808 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:45:20 for 10.10 you'd want to use 10.11 as a build OS, with xcode 7.x for the 10.10 SDK 18:46:35 I see, so any potential xcode builder is likely to need to install and older xcode than the current one of their OS 18:47:17 -!- PsiRedEye22 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:47:51 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:49:04 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:51:37 in my case it's just carefully fail to upgrade it :) 18:51:51 since apple wants to push a buggy xcode 8 onto my 10.11 box 18:56:34 geekosaur: oh, is it actually difficult to have both installed at the same time, or to downgrade if only one can be installed at a time? 18:56:46 -!- Isvaffel has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:57:11 in theory you can use xcode-select with multiple versions. in practice it's one of those things apple has tended to break and not notice :/ 19:00:01 -!- adelrune has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:01:04 if you have multiple SDKs in your xcode, it's relatively easy to select between them (export MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET=) 19:01:53 -!- eb_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:02:23 you should have my build script for 10.8 already, it uses that to select the 10.7 SDK for builds 19:03:17 -!- DevlanMud has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:07:39 oh shit 19:07:44 we forgot to add an icon for fungal bloom 19:07:55 we = i 19:08:11 displeasing...! 19:08:38 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:11:25 how ironic 19:11:32 would you like me to make one 19:12:33 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 19:16:45 ??fungal bloom 19:16:46 I don't have a page labeled fungal_bloom in my learndb. 19:16:49 doesn't exist! 19:17:56 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:18:45 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 19:18:46 -!- Ququman has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:19:07 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 19:19:12 -!- Ququman has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:20:10 -!- MarvinPA_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:23:52 -!- FunkyBomb has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 19:25:08 -!- Cimanyd has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:25:21 gammafunk, you seem to be in a better mood lately, what happened 19:25:30 the what now? 19:25:32 I'm going to need a lot more salt from you 19:25:38 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 19:25:48 You just seem more jovial 19:25:55 I don't get it 19:26:09 doesn't seem like anyone has really been keeping up with curating the learndb 19:26:09 w/r/t the lack of fungal bloom entry 19:26:11 is this the setup of a joke 19:26:39 And then PF said.. 'Cuz I'm a FUN GUY, get it!'! *rimshot* 19:26:58 !lg * t s=god% 19:27:16 Dracunos: I think you just haven't spent much time about here 19:27:24 27169 games for * (t): 14435x (53.13%), 3297x Trog (12.14%), 1591x Okawaru (5.86%), 1160x Lugonu (4.27%), 677x Vehumet (2.49%), 662x Makhleb (2.44%), 587x Xom (2.16%), 522x Cheibriados (1.92%), 462x Uskayaw (1.70%), 440x Gozag (1.62%), 422x Hepliaklqana (1.55%), 376x The Shining One (1.38%), 343x Sif Muna (1.26%), 314x Dithmenos (1.16%), 306x Qazlal (1.13%), 302x Ashenzari (1.11%), 261x Ru (0.96%)... 19:27:27 Maybe I annoyed you more when we first met 19:27:32 And now you're used to the annoyance 19:27:35 I think just nobody plays fedhas 19:27:50 well we weren't even talking just now, hence my confusion 19:28:15 Well, it's not important anyway. As long as we are good friends I'm happy 19:28:16 you just like to pop in and out at various times Dracunos 19:28:35 gammafunk has a cyclical snark cycle 19:28:36 trust me conversations look even weirder than they normally are when you do that 19:28:51 I am suspicious we're experiencing a low snark week after Trump was elected though, hmm..... 19:28:56 haha 19:29:01 I'd say that this has been an extremely typical day of gammafunk in crawl-dev chat 19:29:13 You're saying my perspective is skewed by constantly popping in mid-gamma-conversation? 19:29:25 I dunno! but it was certainly out of the blue! 19:29:40 gammaversation 19:29:47 recall most of us have been polluting this channel for years now 19:30:17 I think I started annoying people back in 2013 19:30:19 maybe 2012 19:30:30 chequers only began annoying people in...2015? 19:30:38 Yeah, I was annoying people in other places at the time 19:30:40 but even for him it's been well over a year 19:30:49 -!- insecticide13 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:31:18 He said you have a snark cycle, though, what did he mean by that 19:31:26 He probably is just trying to start something 19:31:30 sometimes gammafunk is nice, sometimes gammafunk is nasty 19:31:32 there's not really a cycle 19:31:50 I can't think of any regular in this channel who does that, in fact 19:32:01 yes, i don't think it follows a regular pattern 19:33:22 -!- adelrune has joined ##crawl-dev 19:33:26 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 19:33:41 ProzacElf, nobody ever does :/ sometimes I'll catch something in backlog and update learndb 19:33:49 -!- twelwe has joined ##crawl-dev 19:33:54 ready 19:33:54 twelwe: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 19:34:04 !messages 19:34:04 (1/1) PleasingFungus said (2h 11m 54s ago): the freed slave was hostile to you because you'd sacrificed love 19:34:35 never again thank friend 19:34:48 thanks 19:35:19 with Ru 19:35:23 you get the orb 19:35:27 you ascend 19:35:34 but you are always haunted 19:35:40 was it worth the sacrifice? 19:36:10 fr: Sacrifice ORB 19:36:53 the orb grants you wishes when you ascend, one of the first things Ru people do is wish for their arm back 19:37:27 rookie mistake 19:37:35 everyone knows you wish for more wishes 19:37:39 first 19:37:42 <|amethyst> Unfortunately it's an asshole genie orb 19:38:05 gives you your dead arm back XD 19:38:07 <|amethyst> so you sprout a new arm growing out of the middle of your back 19:38:09 <|amethyst> or that 19:38:23 fine, I'm happy being Trogdor 19:38:33 just give me some consumate vs and I'm good 19:38:46 <|amethyst> @??vampire lord 19:38:46 unknown monster: "vampire lord" 19:39:00 remember the grunt patch for those? 19:39:03 <|amethyst> @??jory 19:39:03 Jory (04V) | Spd: 10 | HD: 18 | HP: 151-213 | AC/EV: 19/12 | Dam: 40, 1505(vampiric) | 07undead, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, evil, spellcaster, see invisible, unbreathing | Res: 06magic(160), 02cold, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08cleanse++ | XP: 3966 | Sp: vampiric draining (4-42), crystal spear (3d37), mesmerise, blink close | Sz: Medium | Int: human... 19:39:03 I might still have it somewhere 19:39:15 <|amethyst> @??jory name:the_Consummate n_suf 19:39:15 Jory the Consummate (04V) | Spd: 10 | HD: 18 | HP: 151-213 | AC/EV: 19/12 | Dam: 40, 1505(vampiric) | 07undead, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, evil, spellcaster, see invisible, unbreathing | Res: 06magic(160), 02cold, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08cleanse++ | XP: 3966 | Sp: vampiric draining (4-42), crystal spear (3d37), mesmerise, blink close | Sz: Mediu.. 19:39:48 geekosaur: yeah, i'm not volunteering for the job but some of it seems to have gotten way out of date 19:40:07 the wiki? 19:40:16 <|amethyst> learndb 19:40:26 yeah ldb is following... 19:40:46 well if you see an entry that needs updating...just update it! 19:41:17 <|amethyst> what if I see an entry that needs updated? 19:41:35 just upstart it! 19:41:44 <|amethyst> ITYM systemd 19:42:09 sorry, was busy configuring my XFree86, what were you saying? 19:42:16 ??ac 19:42:16 armour[1/4]: AC reduces incoming damage from most sources by 1d(AC+1)-1. This occurs before resistances. This can reduce it to 0. You might still get poisoned, banished etc. though. Some electric attacks (such as shock, lightning bolt, electric eel blasts) only check half of your AC. Impact damage from poison spells checks ac, the poison damage itself does not. 19:42:24 ??armour skill 19:42:24 armour skill[1/2]: Armour skill reduces the penalties associated with heavy armours, and increases the effectiveness of your armour by 1/22nd of its base value per level of skill. 19:42:31 ??armour skill[2 19:42:31 armour skill[2/2]: The flat EV penalty of a piece of armour is reduced by Armour skill. See {encumbrance rating}. 19:42:40 <|amethyst> ??aevp 19:42:40 aevp[1/2]: Adjusted body armour evasion penalty. Affects spell success, melee and missile accuracy. Its value is [(2/5) * er^2 / (str+3)] * [45 - armour_skill]/45. 19:42:41 <|amethyst> ??aevp[2] 19:42:41 aevp[2/2]: Calculator: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SgY-b12lecR1EHb7uopTqFP0E3FDr5_MsTHrwA0Z5MY/ 19:42:57 -!- taqueso has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:42:58 yeah that stuff is all out of date pretty sure 19:43:06 anything to do with EV 19:43:13 <|amethyst> ? 19:43:22 <|amethyst> has EV changed recently? 19:43:31 um 19:43:31 yeah you're going to have to be more specific than "that stuff" 19:43:38 ok 19:43:55 I believe there was a change since I made my !ev command 19:43:58 !help !ev 19:43:59 !ev: Usage: !ev . e.g. !ev Mi 20 20 18 15 15 19:44:11 no, I'm not certain 19:44:39 that was a long time ago 19:44:50 <|amethyst> it would be helpful if learndb entries carried a date of last modification 19:45:03 it would, yeah 19:45:10 if you could query that, but not see it by default 19:45:24 maybe nick of last modifier and also date 19:45:40 !help !aevp 19:45:41 !aevp: Usage: !aevp . Returns the aevp (armour EV penalty) 19:45:53 !cmd !aevp 19:45:54 Command: !aevp => .echo ER=$1, str=$2, armour skill=$3 : -$(int (/ (* (/ (* (/ 2 5.0) (** $1 2)) (+ $2 3)) (- 45 $3)) 45.0)) EV 19:46:05 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest40807 19:46:18 this bit might be right 19:47:01 !cmd !ev 19:47:02 Command: !ev => .echo Race: $1 str: $2 dex: $3 ER: $4 dodging: $5 armour: $6 => EV: $(int (evscale (+ 10 (+ (=evbonus.sizefactor $(lower $1)) (- (max (- (=dodgebonus $1 $3 $5) (=armourdodgepenalty $1 $4 $2)) 0) (=aevp $4 $2 $6)))))) 19:47:18 ah 19:47:38 there was a change with how EV scales with dodging based on ER or something, wasn't there? 19:48:06 <|amethyst> hm 19:48:16 so higher ER means lower slope? instead of an old method where you'd train dodging for ages before you got any EV 19:48:17 <|amethyst> there was a change to use a smooth stepdown 19:48:25 and then it would go up at the same rate 19:48:26 <|amethyst> oh, that long ago 19:49:06