00:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00:22 sigh 00:02:02 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 00:02:32 these bees are killer! 00:03:00 not the bees... 00:03:58 FR: give bees rSmoke- 00:07:03 -!- Dingbhatt has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:07:58 !rng sif not_sif 00:07:58 The RNG chooses: sif. 00:08:11 sorry usk 00:08:18 hrm 00:08:25 su of usk sounds kind of interesting 00:08:29 might try that sometime 00:08:49 oh, but does usk not grant piety for ally damage? 00:08:52 it probably doesn't 00:09:31 !nchoice 00:09:35 man 00:09:35 HOWz: 0 wins || bluepin: CWZ, L1 Magician of No God || Poncheis: CAO, L1 Magician of No God || Valmet: CWZ, L1 Magician of No God 00:09:37 now HOWZ 00:09:47 talk about nem choice picking chars I've played 00:09:50 HOWz is gonna max out really fast 00:09:56 !lg . howz 00:09:57 4. gammafunk the Infernalist (L27 HOWz of Sif Muna), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2016-08-02 01:17:04, with 10282328 points after 165135 turns and 21:52:58. 00:10:10 !lg . opwr 00:10:11 No games for gammafunk (opwr). 00:10:17 whaaat 00:10:28 usk does not give any piety for allies, no 00:10:32 dang 00:10:37 I asked lasty about it previously because I was thinking necromancer 00:10:53 it would probably be pretty cray cray 00:16:02 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:17:37 -!- agolden has joined ##crawl-dev 00:20:19 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 00:23:53 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 00:24:52 fr shooting a launcher of velocity makes the animation play faster 00:26:55 -!- Dracunos has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 00:28:34 -!- adelrune has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:34:16 -!- Dracunos has joined ##crawl-dev 00:34:27 lol 00:34:49 I do feel that launcher animation is a bit slow 00:34:52 gammafunk: should sif muna have a message for "...will now begin gifting spellbooks", or something like that? 00:35:05 a 5* 00:35:32 -!- cosmonaut has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:38:05 PleasingFungus: seems reasonable 00:38:23 i don't remember how trog/oka gifting works 00:38:35 I don't think you get messages 00:38:48 ya but like 00:38:51 for tog the gifting starts...also at 5*? 00:38:55 do they start at some hard piety breakpoint? 00:38:56 ya 00:39:23 tog is Trog's little brother 00:39:27 so cute! 00:40:13 seems like tog should gift only clothing 00:40:36 fuck 00:40:40 not sure what i should've done there 00:40:42 @??nessos 00:40:42 Nessos (06c) | Spd: 15 | HD: 9 | HP: 61-85 | AC/EV: 8/7 | Dam: 16 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, archer, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(20) | XP: 1325 | Sp: blink range, haste | Sz: Large | Int: human. 00:40:46 hexed 00:40:47 oops 00:40:51 c'est la vie 00:41:03 nessowned... 00:42:30 well, fifth time's the charm. 00:45:39 hrm 00:45:50 !tell lasty this wn started with a bow, arrows, and 0 bows skill 00:45:51 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let lasty know. 00:46:11 !messages 00:46:11 No messages for ZiBuDo. 00:46:52 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 00:48:36 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:49:00 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 00:56:28 "Can you avoid Jivya's wrath by getting the mutations/stats you need, killing TRJ, and then abandoning him?" 00:56:36 nope 00:56:36 !send ZiBuDo some messages 00:56:36 johnstein: You have 3 messages. Use !messages to read them. 00:56:37 Sending some messages to ZiBuDo. 00:56:39 he sticks around until wrath ends 00:56:51 +++9e6 00:56:54 ^ cat 00:57:08 good fishbone 00:57:49 -!- Dracunos has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 00:57:58 !tv pleasingfungus killer~~nessos 00:57:59 1. PleasingFungus, XL12 HuSu, T:14174 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 00:58:36 -!- Dracunos has joined ##crawl-dev 00:58:59 rough luck 00:59:07 not sure what I'd have done there either 00:59:19 continue reading teleportation, maybe? 00:59:27 still leaves you vulnerable to arrows 00:59:29 cat didn't hang you up right :p 01:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:00:37 cat yawned, stretched backward onto the numpad and hit a bunch of keys, then returned to resting directly adjacent to the keyboard. 01:01:09 -!- Poncheis has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 48.0.2/20160823121617]] 01:01:15 this is an improvement over the standard situation, in which he rests with his paws pressed firmly onto whatever key seems appealing to him. usually space. 01:02:10 pf: want a funnier wn story? 01:02:25 I started a huwn, got a book with beastly appendage and passwall 01:02:29 my spell skills were 01:02:33 1 conj 0 tmut 0 earth 01:02:39 -!- destrovel has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:02:45 good 01:05:16 ugh, autoeat eats chunks even wh.+ 01:05:23 mrow 01:05:40 ile gourmand is still warming up 01:07:41 yep :/ 01:09:26 &versions 0.19 01:09:31 CAO: 0.19.0-2-gae57169, CBRO: 0.19.0-2-gae57169, CDO: none, CJR: none, CPO: 0.19.0, CUE: none, CWZ: 0.19.0-2-gae57169, CXC: 0.19.0-2-gae57169, LLD: 0.19.0-2-gae57169 01:10:31 -!- Dracunos_ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:19:52 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:24:25 !source dat/des/portals/bailey.des 01:24:26 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/portals/bailey.des 01:24:42 !vault bailey_polearm_1 01:24:43 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/portals/bailey.des#L712 01:24:48 ^ this is a really, really bad map 01:24:56 (a) autoexplore happily walks you past orcs 01:25:16 (b) ranged weapons make it really easy to slaughter all enemies without retaliation, up to and including the 'final boss' 01:25:24 (c) if you use flight to get onto the center island, you can get stuck there 01:28:15 there are several bailies with the flight issue 01:28:25 -!- agolden has quit [Quit: agolden] 01:28:37 flight shouldn't be strategicly relevant anyway 01:29:44 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:30:24 Rast--: yeah, there are several; this is just the one i just went through 01:32:48 -!- Dracunos_ has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 01:34:19 ugh 01:34:21 !lairendkills t 01:34:23 Lair End kills (t): 8x evil_forest (26.67%), 5x gammafunk_lair_ancient_temple (16.67%), 3x wormcave (10.00%), 3x hangedman_lair_tendril_chambers (10.00%), 2x guppyfry_lair_end_dragon (6.67%), 2x (6.67%), 2x evilmike_catoblepas_cave (6.67%), minmay_lair_end_enchanted_forest (3.33%), cheibrodos_lair_end_hotspot (3.33%), hangedman_lair_caniforms_friends (3.33%), minmay_lair_end_frog_pond (3.33%), gru... 01:34:27 !tell lasty please remove ranged already, it sucks so much 01:34:29 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let lasty know. 01:34:41 but it's strong!!! 01:34:54 !lairendkills t o=-% 01:34:56 Lair End kills (t o=-%): grunt_lair_end_beastmaster (3.33%), minmay_lair_end_frog_pond (3.33%), hangedman_lair_caniforms_friends (3.33%), cheibrodos_lair_end_hotspot (3.33%), minmay_lair_end_enchanted_forest (3.33%), 2x (6.67%), 2x evilmike_catoblepas_cave (6.67%), 2x guppyfry_lair_end_dragon (6.67%), 3x hangedman_lair_tendril_chambers (10.00%), 3x wormcave (10.00%), 5x gammafunk_lair_ancient_temp... 01:35:07 !lairendkills * current 01:35:16 but it's not fun 01:35:19 Lair End kills (* current): 375x evil_forest (16.84%), 236x evilmike_catoblepas_cave (10.60%), 215x grunt_lair_end_beastmaster (9.65%), 191x gammafunk_lair_ancient_temple (8.58%), 180x (8.08%), 169x hangedman_lair_tendril_chambers (7.59%), 157x guppyfry_lair_end_dragon (7.05%), 157x minmay_lair_end_frog_pond (7.05%), 152x hangedman_lair_in_review (6.83%), 152x minmay_lair_end_enchanted_forest (6.8... 01:35:32 what's a thing that's the opposite of fun 01:35:59 time's up it's ranged 01:36:03 -!- Yermak has joined ##crawl-dev 01:36:12 some would say: summons! 01:36:19 and I guess allies in general 01:36:44 Legends say.....BORING! 01:37:01 good quote for arrows 01:37:58 ugh 01:38:32 i performed the gammafunk manuever 01:38:54 -!- Dracunos_ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:41:04 !lg . 01:41:05 470. PleasingFungus the Slinger (L12 HaWn of Uskayaw), quit the game on Lair:1 on 2016-11-06 05:38:04, with 12039 points after 12840 turns and 0:48:24. 01:41:21 ... 01:41:25 ranged 01:41:27 sucks 01:41:31 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: i'm out!] 01:41:44 ....Halflings did it again 01:42:03 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:42:04 -!- Dracunos_ is now known as Dracunos 01:44:26 -!- rchandra has joined ##crawl-dev 01:47:41 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:47:55 -!- destroythecore has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:59:06 -!- DevlanMud has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:01:11 why did giant cockroach stay a giant? 01:01:52 we couldn't figure out a good name for them, and "cockroach" made them sound too trivial 01:02:01 and I think giant cockroaches are the only prefix giant remaining in the game 01:02:09 so it seems fine to just have one remaining example, as a memoir :) 01:02:09 challenge accepted 01:02:35 the closest we came were uhh "rhinoceros cockroach" which was too threatening-sounding for what they aer 01:02:41 or "hissing cockroach", not quite right 01:03:38 the problem wasn't truly that "giant" as a prefix was problematic, it was that there were like eight examples of enemies all sharing that prefix, on top of "giants" also actually being their own enemy class 01:03:57 so between all of the above there were like 14 giants in the game total 01:03:58 -!- Cimanyd has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:04:03 cockroach seems Ok, just put in the description that it's big 01:04:23 or.. how about large cockroach 01:04:30 greater cockroach, imo 01:04:41 there is no lesser coackroach so no IMO 01:04:43 direroach 01:05:56 orb of cockroach 01:06:53 man, I've been banished so often this game due to having basically no source of mr it's funny 01:06:53 <|amethyst> guardian cockroach 01:07:10 cockroach lord 01:07:16 cocklord? 01:07:26 <|amethyst> cockworm 01:07:37 I concede 01:07:41 I can't defeat 'cockworm' 01:08:44 !time 01:08:45 Time: Nov 06, 2016, 06:08:44 AM, UTC. The 2016 0.19 tournament ends in 14 days, 13 hours, 51 minutes and 15 seconds. 01:08:56 taildb.py doing pretty good this tourney 01:09:21 Gozag Or Go Home taking a very surprising lead 01:09:34 I haven't heard of any of these players except removeelyvilon 01:10:01 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:10:07 it's just early tournament numbers 01:10:09 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 01:10:22 Sure, but following the changes is exciting! 01:10:38 Once people sort out and start trying to grab less-won combos is the real challenge 01:10:43 well early on the main factors are the number of wins you can get and the value of those wins 01:10:45 since they all add up 01:10:49 I have high hopes for acid kimchi 01:11:15 later on once the score stepdown and species/background/gods restrict your options nem choices and streaks start mattering 01:11:22 Eublepharis macularius is doing very well for being only 2 people 01:12:01 well, one of their members is yermak so 01:12:09 I think charly is the other one 01:12:19 both high level players 01:12:25 -!- Dracunos_ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:12:43 -!- kdrnic__ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:13:38 I wonder how many times I've been banished this game so far 01:13:44 !banish CanOfWorms 01:13:45 Brannock casts a spell. CanOfWorms is cast into 4chan! 01:13:53 noooo 01:14:21 9 times 01:14:22 nice 01:14:55 -!- Dracunos- has joined ##crawl-dev 01:15:46 -!- Dracunos- is now known as Dracunos 01:16:01 NICE 01:16:08 two cloak prizes in elf 01:16:14 1 randart +0 mr cloak 01:16:20 1 regular +0 mr cloak 01:16:33 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:16:34 the randart would have been unquestionably better back in itemdest days 01:16:44 rip old corrosion.. 01:18:09 -!- Dracunos_ has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 01:18:25 -!- Idolo has quit [] 01:18:33 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Read error: No route to host] 01:18:55 -!- Dracunos_ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:19:42 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.20-a0-19-gd4fea00 (34) 01:19:50 hmm 01:19:55 why is trj mindless but dissolution isn't 01:20:15 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:20:16 -!- Dracunos_ is now known as Dracunos 01:20:20 dissolution is a human 01:20:21 dissolution was an actual sentient being before being corrupted into slime 01:20:25 trj is just a jelly 01:20:26 There is a solver and its name is desolver! 01:20:26 *was 01:20:34 I thought trj was supposed to be the physical avatar of a god 01:20:36 no 01:20:39 *disolver 01:20:45 then why does jiyva die if trj dies 01:20:47 dissolver? 01:20:49 trj's just a very gelatinous slime 01:20:53 that follows trj 01:21:02 how can he follow trj w/o being intelligent 01:21:08 uh 01:21:11 er I mean 01:21:13 jiyva* 01:21:16 it's like a disney movie 01:21:18 amorphous intelligence 01:21:20 the animals are smart 01:21:26 and have human concerns 01:21:28 he hates anyone who can hold logical thought........... 01:21:30 koboldina: you could probably ask that about real life 01:21:40 also if dissolution follows jiyva why does jiyva die if dissolution is alive and trj isn't 01:21:42 -!- hellmonk has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:21:49 that's just code silliness 01:22:05 we *could* require the player to kill dissolution too 01:22:09 do you *really* want to farm slime just to kill Jiyva 01:22:10 or maybe rotate trj with dissolution 01:22:11 !recur !motto 3 There is a solver and its name is desolver! 01:22:12 TTTIASAINIDTIASAINIDTIASAINIDTTIASAINIDTIASAINIDTIASAINIDTTIASAINIDTIASAINIDTIASAINID! T-TTIASAINIDTIASAINIDTIASAINID!! T-T-TIASAINID!!! T-T-T-There!!! I-I-I-Is!!! A-A-A-A!!! S-S-S-Solver!!! A-A-A-And!!! I-I-I-Its!!! N-N-N-Name!!! I-I-I-Is!!! D-D-D-Desolver!!!! T-T-There!! I-I-Is!! A-A-A!! S-S-Solver!! A-A-And!! I-I-Its!! N-N-Name!! I-I-Is!! D-D-Desolver!!!! T-T-THERE!! I-I-IS!! A-A-A!! S-S-SOLVER... 01:22:15 brannock: yes 01:22:23 okay, I can't reglyph specific undeads, but can i reglyph ALL derived skeletons? 01:22:32 powerful 01:22:58 don't let koboldina pudding farm 01:23:07 she doesn't need nice things 01:23:15 honestly this is just a scheme for you guys to make trj intelligent so I can enslave soul it with yred 01:23:34 I think it would lose af_acid 01:23:37 hence not be very good 01:23:39 if you did that the spewing jellies would hate you anyway 01:23:46 jsut like if you phantom mirror trj 01:23:46 and it wouldn't spawn jerries either 01:23:53 what if it spewed friendly spectral jellies 01:23:58 ~flavor~ 01:23:59 again 01:24:03 on the topic of nice things 01:24:06 (spectral jellies don't exist yes I know) 01:24:10 an apology, by gammafunk 01:24:17 look at this little guy, 骨 01:24:23 nice 01:24:34 ツ 01:24:36 ??nice things 01:24:36 I don't have a page labeled nice_things in my learndb. 01:24:39 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:24:44 mon glyph += skeleton:骨 doesn't work 01:24:46 ??bad things 01:24:46 I don't have a page labeled bad_things in my learndb. 01:24:48 !learn add nice_things you can't have nice things. 01:24:49 nice things[1/1]: you can't have nice things. 01:25:12 lol is that the kanji for bone 01:25:17 nice things?? 01:25:17 you can't have nice things. 01:25:19 good 01:25:25 koboldina: it's a radical 01:25:36 radicals are based off actual words, though 01:25:43 I think it's about the width 01:25:48 of the unicode char 01:25:50 double-width don't work 01:25:51 oh 01:26:05 but yes 01:26:09 it's the character for bone, apparently 01:26:26 -!- Dracunos_ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:26:41 a shift-jis roguelike could be pretty interesting, since you can use the actual characters for monsters 01:26:49 the perfect skeleton glyph 01:26:57 see: InCaveAd 01:27:06 (which I think uses it) 01:28:35 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:29:08 whoo 01:29:13 -!- _Jordan_ has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 01:29:20 blinkmolation trj 01:29:40 -!- Dracunos_ is now known as Dracunos 01:29:51 -!- Lordarticus has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:31:02 -!- Lordarticus has quit [Client Quit] 01:41:16 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:46:46 canofworms: sounds like the next kanji learning app 01:47:19 -!- agolden has joined ##crawl-dev 01:47:40 nice, I have a friendly oof 01:47:55 oh 01:47:59 CanOfWorms, gozag? 01:48:00 my bad 01:48:05 allied oof 01:48:07 friendly alich 01:48:08 rast: yes 01:48:12 I saved up 10k gold for the ascension 01:48:35 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:48:43 i think gozag might be the overall strongest god that isnt just raw pre-lair power like trog 01:50:40 nice 01:50:44 https://puu.sh/s89Sa/b5f9b4a20f.png 01:50:47 oof dance party 01:50:59 two allies and 3 neutrals duking it out 01:51:23 whoops 01:51:27 accidentally called a merchant in zot:5 01:51:31 I'm just going to make it food 01:52:40 every time I think "oh I could use gozag on this char" 01:52:45 I end up picking something else 01:53:03 wise 01:54:35 AW 01:54:37 YEAH 01:54:43 friendly pan lord ascension buddy 01:56:30 -!- valrus has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 01:57:12 alright 01:57:15 grgl ascended 01:57:23 let's see where the points are now 01:57:44 looks like tesu is up for big points 01:58:22 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.20-a0-19-gd4fea00 01:58:52 sif muna... also up for big points!!! 01:59:21 !nchoice 01:59:22 Time for a new nchoice! It will appear shortly on the tournament website (if it hasn't yet). Type "=nemelex XXXX" to update !nchoice with the new combo, where XXXX should be replaced by the new combo. 01:59:25 dang 01:59:41 =nemelex GrEn 01:59:44 Defined keyword: nchoice => OpWr|HEAr|KoIE|DDAE|CeVM|HOWz|GrEn 02:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:04:03 !tell regret-index Yeah I figured that out, but it turns out the command is not really fixable wrt jungle book since it summarizes by kmap%; I'll have to see later if some regexp_replace() magic can help, but I doubt it 02:04:03 gammafunk: OK, I'll let regret-index know. 02:04:21 !lg . gr won 02:04:22 2. gammafunk the Slayer (L25 GrWn of Ru), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2016-01-31 17:42:57, with 1754318 points after 62443 turns and 5:39:39. 02:04:28 !lg . en won 02:04:29 4. gammafunk the Imperceptible (L25 DEEn of Zin), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2016-05-17 04:30:55, with 1449072 points after 88567 turns and 7:01:42. 02:04:38 ah, not bad but I probably won't get to it in time 02:05:28 heh: https://www.reddit.com/r/roguelikes/comments/5b4t04/dcss_cant_find_stairs_to_lair_7/ 02:05:56 is it important that protection do nothing if you miss 02:06:22 it seems kind of weird that it be specifically bad vs evasive stuff like blink frogs 02:06:28 because you didn't hit so you don't get ac 02:07:58 well most brands do nothing if you miss 02:08:50 i'm told the change was to discourage swapping 02:09:09 but if it's supposed to fail on a miss then it's 02:09:13 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 02:09:14 even more of a nerf to a bad brand 02:09:20 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:09:34 since not only do you have to be in melee, you have to make a roll to get better ac 02:09:51 I don't think your assessment of its strength is correct 02:10:03 possibly not 02:10:27 clearly -dev perogative is to disencourage swapping of items at all costs, including sensible mechanic design 02:10:45 what's +dev peroagtive? 02:10:51 *perogative 02:10:58 honestly i don't know why it changed and that's just the most rational explanation i can figure out 02:11:31 gammafunk: prioritize swapping, tolkeinize everything, add Lightli etc. 02:11:43 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 02:11:44 ping 02:12:02 nikheizen: I read that as "tokenize" at first 02:12:33 it's actually "Tolkien" but I make the Tolkein mistake all the time 02:12:42 every monster is unique in pluscrawl 02:13:12 pluscrawl sounds like a crawl that never removed anything 02:13:34 changed, yes, but never removed 02:13:39 I think the gist of the change was to prevent the protection ego from being behaving more like a pure ARTP thing (AC+N specifically) 02:13:42 and more like a weapon ego 02:13:53 you have to use the weapon to use the ego 02:14:08 but it makes pretty good sense that a weapon ego is only triggered when it actually hits something 02:14:09 yeah, previously I just wielded prot weapons on mages for the +5 AC bonus if I didn't have an enhancer staff or the like yet 02:14:25 it feels very weak to me 02:14:31 it comes on flails 02:14:35 which miss a lot 02:14:37 people specifically underestimated prot weapon ego in the past, and probably do so for this one as well, but that's more of a "strength issue" 02:14:56 so it's protection vs things that are low-EV 02:15:00 well I guess flails are bad if they miss alot! 02:15:02 @??ghost crab 02:15:02 ghost crab (15t) | Spd: 10 | HD: 9 | HP: 48-68 | AC/EV: 9/6 | Dam: 2013(drain), 1513(drain) | natural, 07undead, amphibious, evil, unbreathing | Res: 06magic(40), 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08cleanse++ | Chunks: 14noxious | XP: 949 | Sp: spectral cloud [11!AM, 06!sil] | Sz: small | Int: animal. 02:15:13 so this thing is natural and undead 02:15:20 that means that a shapeshifter can polymorph into it 02:15:36 and then polymorph into something else 02:15:46 and then? 02:16:02 eli5 02:16:24 -!- koboldina has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:16:42 if you zap polymorph at a shapeshifter that is a ghost crab 02:16:46 it is unaffected 02:16:49 because undead can't be polymorphed 02:16:57 dang 02:16:59 and then it polymorphs anyway despite being undead 02:17:02 because it's a shapeshifter 02:17:13 wheals: ^ 02:17:18 that's kind of weird 02:17:21 I'm blaming you! 02:17:26 maybe ghost crabs shouldn't be natural? 02:17:27 that change was ebering though, I think 02:17:29 that sounds like an oversight 02:17:37 nothing should have dual holiness yes 02:17:49 wow....an ebering-induced bug....related to crabs.... 02:17:50 (granted, polymorphing is still better than the alternative) 02:17:57 -!- nikheizen has quit [Quit: leaving] 02:18:03 (because given sufficient time otherwise all shapeshifters would be stuck as ghost crabs forever) 02:19:02 \lim_n\to\infty p_n = ghost crab 02:19:12 -!- Patashu__ has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 02:19:57 -!- n1 is now known as n1ki 02:21:15 i have a song called n1k1 02:21:51 must hurt real bad that ZiBuDo didn't put up any of your jorgrun midis 02:22:01 real bad... 02:22:10 they aren't midis you pleb 02:22:19 er...mod files...or 02:22:41 and as long as he listens to Windows'95 Remix it's good 02:23:18 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iXswPVGmqY 02:23:19 speed doesn't get slower if you miss right 02:23:33 it obviously does no damage on a miss but 02:23:47 it still swings at the fast speed 02:23:49 vorpal does less damage if you miss 02:24:43 vamp doesn't heal you as much upon miss 02:24:53 wow this remix is weird 02:24:58 is this the same as your mod 02:25:46 no, this http://cowmuffins.net/stuff/windows'95%20remix.it.mp3 02:26:27 -!- DDFi has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:34:21 nice 02:34:27 I hope this doesn't become horrifying 02:34:57 lol 02:35:31 this needs to be on youtube if it isn't already 02:35:43 it's pretty good 02:36:01 -!- rchandra has left ##crawl-dev 02:36:22 -!- ythm has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:38:52 -!- agolden has quit [Quit: agolden] 02:39:19 minmay: does this song have a license? 02:42:53 the license on mod songs is always "i ripped a bunch of samples so trying to enforce copyright would be a bad idea" 02:43:49 sorry minmay :/ i've been busy and want to add it to the site when i rework it 02:44:02 don't be sorry 02:44:08 am canadian have to 02:44:12 xD 02:44:16 damn... 02:44:35 is that a nono for u gammafunk 02:44:39 can we not date anymore? 02:44:53 amazing that chrome doesn't warn me about viruses when I visit that home page ^_^ 02:45:08 -!- jackrogers has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:45:12 xD 02:45:27 it broke upgrading so i want to rework it anyways 02:45:40 did the console watching get fixed? 02:45:47 half n half 02:45:48 I should go test it 02:46:06 it wont list all games for some reason 02:46:11 even tho i reset memory location 02:46:30 but it lets you watch them 02:46:37 ZiBuDo: woah, it lists them in triplicate! 02:46:43 that too 02:47:04 does seem to work though yeah 02:47:06 ZiBuDo, you probably dont want to add *all* the songs 02:47:25 minmay, ill try then give up and compromise 02:48:05 can confirm the windows 95 remix is good 02:49:04 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:49:06 donald probably shouldn't generate in slime and immediately die to the walls before the player ever sees him 02:50:00 lol 02:50:02 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 02:50:36 -!- FIQ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:50:54 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 02:53:58 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.20-a0-19-gd4fea00 02:54:50 -!- adibis has joined ##crawl-dev 02:57:57 -!- DDFi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:01:14 -!- FIQ has joined ##crawl-dev 03:04:53 -!- ZiBuDo has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:16:29 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:25:26 -!- Leszczynek has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 03:31:25 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 03:31:30 -!- adibis has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:32:00 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 03:34:34 -!- danielguo94 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:44:59 -!- agolden has joined ##crawl-dev 03:49:01 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:49:01 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:49:15 -!- TuxQmob has joined ##crawl-dev 03:49:15 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Changing host] 03:49:15 -!- TuxQmob has joined ##crawl-dev 03:49:29 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:49:41 -!- TuxQmob has joined ##crawl-dev 03:50:28 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 03:55:04 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:55:19 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 03:55:31 -!- Zxpr1jk has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:55:33 -!- TuxQmob has joined ##crawl-dev 03:55:39 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Changing host] 03:55:39 -!- TuxQmob has joined ##crawl-dev 04:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:07:44 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 04:07:57 -!- ees has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:09:35 -!- shmup has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:09:38 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:10:56 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:13:59 -!- shmup has joined ##crawl-dev 04:15:13 -!- Patashu__ has joined ##crawl-dev 04:20:54 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 04:20:56 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 04:23:59 -!- agolden has quit [Quit: agolden] 04:24:05 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 04:29:22 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:31:45 -!- bannakaffalatta has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:36:32 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 04:38:16 -!- agolden has joined ##crawl-dev 04:44:50 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 04:45:38 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:49:49 -!- agolden has quit [Quit: agolden] 04:49:56 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:50:43 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:02:34 -!- vale_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:05:39 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 05:10:34 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:13:52 -!- ees has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:17:43 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:19:07 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:21:38 -!- FunkyBomb has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:26:29 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 05:31:21 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:42:11 -!- sysice has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:47:17 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 05:51:30 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:52:06 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:53:19 -!- AltReality has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:08:05 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 06:09:09 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:13:02 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:16:01 -!- Dingo has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:16:08 -!- jefus- has joined ##crawl-dev 06:18:37 * chequers yawns 06:18:43 hows the t going 06:19:38 -!- jeefus has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:27:41 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:28:53 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 06:30:20 flyleaff (L6 FoFi) ASSERT(!crawl_state.prev_cmd_keys.empty()) in 'main.cc' at line 3775 failed. (D:3) 06:33:43 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:38:02 -!- MadCoyote has quit [Read error: Network is unreachable] 06:48:55 -!- ees has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:49:44 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 06:52:11 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:54:49 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:59:28 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:04:04 -!- Patashu__ has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 07:05:28 -!- Roarke has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:06:33 -!- tmass has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:10:30 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 07:15:45 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:17:58 -!- neunon has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:18:18 !nchoice 07:18:22 GrEn: 0 wins || sdynet: CWZ, L17 Fighter of No God || AllRandomAllDemise: CPO, L16 Tortoise of Hepliaklqana || araganzar: CBRO, L10 Jinx of Hepliaklqana || thatJJthatGod: CWZ, L1 Sneak of No God 07:19:49 -!- neunon has joined ##crawl-dev 07:31:20 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 07:34:25 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:35:42 !tell pleasingfungus yeah, I've seen that before w/ wanderers. I think when it's picking skills to gift on, it doesn't necessarily get ones it gives skill to. 07:35:42 Lasty: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 07:36:05 !tell pleasingfungus I was never sure if that was intentional or a bug, so I left it alone. 07:36:06 Lasty: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 07:36:17 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:36:22 !tell pleasingfungus Yep, ranged is the worst. Glad I can count on your help with ranged reform. 07:36:22 Lasty: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 07:52:09 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 07:56:23 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 07:56:46 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:00:19 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 08:05:33 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:09:37 !kw nchoice 08:09:37 Keyword: nchoice => OpWr|HEAr|KoIE|DDAE|CeVM|HOWz|GrEn 08:10:01 we're moving at a rate of roughly 3 per day 08:10:03 pretty good pace 08:11:23 -!- miek_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:11:51 03Eino Kewlskitalo02 07* 0.20-a0-20-gc069335: Fix 'slightlycontaminated' 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c069335b0ecd 08:11:57 but how's our player count? 08:11:57 -!- Datul has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:14:33 Aha, forgot to --amend --reset-author 08:18:07 03Keskitalo02 07[stone_soup-0.19] * 0.19.0-3-gb12abaa: Fix 'slightlycontaminated' 10(15 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b12abaadc791 08:19:26 Happy to get my contribution to 0.20 in this early! 08:20:21 now time to rest on your laurels :) 08:21:01 Lasty: untill we get 0.19 in sequell on all servers, we can't know 08:21:09 &versions 0.19 08:21:16 CAO: 0.19.0-2-gae57169, CBRO: 0.19.0-2-gae57169, CDO: none, CJR: none, CPO: 0.19.0, CUE: none, CWZ: 0.19.0-2-gae57169, CXC: 0.19.0-2-gae57169, LLD: 0.19.0-2-gae57169 08:21:41 and cwz has to be properly expanded to include games that were beta version 08:21:56 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 08:21:56 the t scripts are still counting though 08:21:56 ah, I didn't realize we were still distributing it 08:22:06 distributing? 08:22:20 trying to get 0.19 distributed across all the servers 08:22:27 oh, it's actually on them 08:22:31 but not in sequell 08:22:33 ah! 08:22:47 Lasty: also hilarious that PF played another Halfling and quit it because of ranged! 08:22:53 makes sense to me 08:23:17 My hyper TeAs 8 types of throwing ammo in inventory, and that's after intentionally ditching 3 types 08:23:26 hah 08:23:40 every time I tell myself "I'll do a ranged char finally" 08:23:46 I find some excuse to stop using it 08:24:00 there are sweet spots for it 08:24:06 extended would be one for me 08:24:11 oh my god 08:24:17 doing extended with ranged is so painful 08:24:25 well with the right type of char 08:24:27 it's v. helpful 08:24:33 I don't mean 100% ranged 08:24:36 oh, it's crazy helpful! It's incredibly strong! 08:24:39 It's just also awful! 08:25:06 I had a HasK in extended that I kind of killed out of sheer frustration due to earlier build decisions 08:25:15 and some less than optimal use of zin 08:25:28 having some ranged woudl have helped that char 08:25:38 then again I could have just gotten my dang shield and used zin a bit better 08:25:56 didn't get my usual tlocs, just had passage, but I didn't use it with zin's abils 08:26:33 might do a run like that again some time 08:26:49 passage is pretty fab 08:26:52 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:26:56 Zin's abilities are pretty fab too 08:27:40 yeah they do work pretty well, I switched to zin after tso and the run was better, since my char was just still too low on escape options 08:27:55 but even after spamming them a ton it was frustrating in hell 08:28:05 I can believe it 08:28:15 I started cutting corners in dis and was miserable 08:28:32 just think how much fun it could have been if you had also been picking up ammo the whole time 08:28:59 -!- Ge0ff has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:29:51 you might have a point there 08:30:44 Hopefully I can leverage all the bad will toward ranged into getting some help with ranged reform, since I'm not very good at the complicated stuff. :p 08:31:59 make a shadow creatures launcher and I may be tempted 08:32:05 you're on 08:32:20 Piranha Launcher 08:32:24 dang 08:32:33 -!- DDFi has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:32:43 release it during shark week for more publicity 08:32:53 guess it'd have to be a shark launcher then 08:32:59 also good 08:33:34 mu had a transmutations proposal that was "Shark's Maw", your head turns into a shark head 08:33:34 !tell pleasingfungus Riposte + throwing secret tech is pretty amazing 08:33:34 Lasty: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 08:33:35 Is it so now that you only find cards through Nemelex? Nem's Powers description says "“They will quickly find that the effects of cards will be more powerful for them" which sounds off. 08:33:51 Keskitalo: yeah, only through decks that nem gifts 08:33:58 gammafunk: sounds like 1/6th of hydra form 08:34:08 Lasty: yes, mu was ahead of his time 08:35:07 dang 08:35:09 !hs * t 08:35:10 7770. PurpleRed the Archmage (L27 DECj of Vehumet), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2016-11-06 12:51:09, with 50943672 points after 28540 turns and 10:09:50. 08:35:17 I'll just change it to "The effects of the cards will be more powerful with higher piety." 08:35:26 not close to his WR, but pretty cool all the same 08:36:28 mu = PurpleRed? 08:36:44 or did I misunderstand you there 08:39:02 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 08:40:14 Lasty: mu is the crawl dev and vault designer 08:40:21 made some sprints and famous vaults 08:40:31 cig's wizlab 08:40:58 Lasty: but I was joking how mu proposed this hydraform-like thing before PF made it 08:41:25 since this was an ancient transmutations planning page on the doku wiki 08:41:30 gammafunk: I just got confused by the "not close to his WR, but pretty cool all the same" remark -- I thought it was part of the same conversation 08:41:35 the rest I followed :p 08:41:37 oh, sorry 08:41:45 yeah PR has a 19k new all-time WR 08:41:48 with DECj 08:41:54 yeah, I saw that 08:41:59 Sweet run 08:42:09 so he just won another DECJ in the t, only 28k but that's still pretty deng fast 08:42:14 And I love that it was so different from the advice hegemony :D 08:42:34 03Keskitalo02 07[stone_soup-0.19] * 0.19.0-4-g80905fd: Since Nemelex has become the only source of cards, adjust the god's powers description accordingly. 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/80905fd4d3b5 08:42:36 -!- _Jordan_ has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 08:42:43 03Keskitalo02 07* 0.20-a0-21-g7876e6c: Since Nemelex has become the only source of cards, adjust the god's powers description accordingly. 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7876e6c996a9 08:42:49 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 08:42:55 I'm on *fire* today. 08:43:07 yeah, v. different approach from the previous best wins as well, to say nothing of how it compared to casual strats 08:44:50 ??hellfire 08:44:50 damnation[1/5]: 3x3 explosion used by certain high level demons and priests. 3d20 damage, requires line of fire, not affected by rF or AC. Some monsters (notably hellions) get damnation burst which is smite targetted and 3d15. For the card, see {exile_card}. 08:44:54 oh right, renamed 08:45:16 damnation is the best ranged weapon right now 08:45:20 since the ammo always mulches 08:45:38 yeah damnation is fun 08:45:42 grunt did good with that one 08:45:56 I've not used it myself, but have seen it in games 08:46:32 no nem choice has been fully won yet, interesting 08:46:38 opwr is close though 08:46:48 howz was won lightning-fast 08:47:24 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:47:28 that makes sense to me 08:47:37 OpWr is a surprising "almost full" 08:49:09 3rd most high scores...neil 08:49:28 !!! 08:49:38 including his epic KoEE 08:49:46 died on d:1 08:49:47 to a bat 08:49:49 8 poitns 08:49:52 *points 08:50:30 lol 08:50:50 That's not really a high score is it? 08:51:06 yeah, that's what neil does 08:51:22 plays really fast and dies, does new char 08:51:31 since no one else has played, he has high score 08:52:01 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 08:57:11 huh, spiders can drown 08:57:27 oh, if there's no adjacent wall to cling to 08:57:33 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 08:59:19 rip spider 08:59:32 !gamesby bcb 08:59:33 bcb has played 7 games, between 2016-11-05 17:00:13 and 2016-11-06 05:38:04, won 0, high score 12039, total score 24841, total turns 36807, play-time/day 1:04:38, total time 2:09:17. 08:59:42 0 wins...tragic 09:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:03:35 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 09:07:45 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:08:42 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:09:27 Stable (0.19) branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19.0-4-g80905fd 09:10:01 I've never sacrificed a hand before... scary. 09:12:01 hmm, does sac love affect tukima's dance? I can still learn it 09:14:16 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:15:48 iirc the monster loses the weapon but then it comes after yo 09:15:48 u 09:18:36 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.20-a0-21-g7876e6c (34) 09:20:47 <|amethyst> hm 09:20:55 <|amethyst> the c alphashop has a "cutlass" 09:22:36 <|amethyst> don't know if it's intentional or not, but if so it should probably have a tile, and maybe a nonzero price 09:22:44 <|amethyst> https://www.reddit.com/r/dcss/comments/5bf2v3/is_this_a_bug/ 09:23:28 I don't think it should have a cutlass 09:23:36 looks like an oversight 09:23:47 it's easy to forget to check for lowercase when replacing something 09:24:25 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 09:24:53 <|amethyst> it was added here 09:24:56 <|amethyst> %git 2caaceb7 09:24:56 07regret-index02 * 0.19-a0-129-g2caaceb: nicolae- vaults- (10069, 10388) 10(6 months ago, 9 files, 880+ 174-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2caaceb77f76 09:25:12 <|amethyst> which is well after cutlass stopped existing outside the captain's 09:25:41 <|amethyst> I guess that might have been based on an older version then missed when merging 09:25:49 yeah, seems like it 09:26:07 I'd just remove it, since cutlasses don't exist. 09:26:13 except for the captain's 09:26:36 -!- ig0rbit has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:28:27 Didn't we briefly have saber renamed to cutlasses? 09:28:40 <|amethyst> yes, but that was longer ago than 6 months 09:29:15 ah 09:29:21 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:29:27 03|amethyst02 07* 0.20-a0-22-g9fff63e: Cut lass. 10(75 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9fff63e36bb7 09:29:38 heh 09:30:00 03|amethyst02 07[stone_soup-0.19] * 0.19.0-5-g39d4d98: Cut lass. 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/39d4d989b591 09:31:52 should have been cut less. Or cut loss. 09:32:07 don't show MarvinPA that! 09:32:19 he can never know... 09:32:52 -!- jwinterm has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:38:44 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:39:00 -!- Patashu__ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:41:24 oh cool 'p' now works for firing, now my spell quickcast macros won't either waste turns (very bad) on non-targeted spells, or require an extra keypress to exit 'f' firing menu 09:41:34 only downside is "unknown command" cluttering up message log, but I'l llive 09:41:57 Huh, now I get "Your target is gone" 09:42:27 there goes that short-lived fantasy 09:45:13 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 09:47:34 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 09:50:16 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:53:02 -!- keszocze has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 10:00:19 -!- omarax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:06:00 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 10:09:16 Stable (0.19) branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19.0-5-g39d4d98 10:11:00 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:12:51 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 10:16:26 -!- snux has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:18:26 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.20-a0-22-g9fff63e (34) 10:24:41 -!- Sorbius has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:25:50 -!- kdrnic has joined ##crawl-dev 10:26:52 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 10:27:29 -!- nimitz has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:28:09 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:31:02 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:31:45 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:31:50 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 10:33:51 !lg * t0.18 / win 10:34:02 1361/75764 games for * (t0.18): N=1361/75764 (1.80%) 10:34:11 !lg * t0.17 / win 10:34:23 1403/87997 games for * (t0.17): N=1403/87997 (1.59%) 10:34:38 the current 2% will probably drop a bit as the tournament continues 10:36:52 -!- jehoesefat has quit [Client Quit] 10:38:26 !lg * t0.16 / win 10:38:38 1804/97853 games for * (t0.16): N=1804/97853 (1.84%) 10:38:55 huh 10:41:01 -!- anthems has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:41:30 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:47:36 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 10:52:01 -!- shummie has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:52:26 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:00:02 -!- omarax_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:04:32 -!- kdrnic has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:06:22 -!- kdrnic has joined ##crawl-dev 11:06:36 Brannock: iirc that was the case for previous tourneys 11:06:36 PleasingFungus: You have 5 messages. Use !messages to read them. 11:07:01 !tell marvinpa ah, good to know! that's something, at least 11:07:02 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let marvinpa know. 11:07:10 !tell marvinpa re autoeat, gourmand 11:07:10 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let marvinpa know. 11:08:26 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 11:10:00 Beargit (L14 HuIE) ASSERT(in_non_diamond_int(r.start)) in 'ray.cc' at line 217 failed. (Lair:6) 11:10:37 I'm curious if 0.19 will dip below 0.18 or end up around the same level 11:10:50 but 1 out of every 20 games being a winner, given players putting in effort, seems like a good spot 11:11:04 Er, not 20 11:11:07 50 11:11:18 bit of dyslexia kicking in 11:13:24 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:13:28 -!- Pacra_ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:13:30 -!- kdrnic_ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:14:41 -!- kdrnic has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:15:02 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:29:13 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 11:34:11 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:37:20 -!- Alcopop has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:38:35 razgard (L17 HaHu) ASSERT(in_non_diamond_int(r.start)) in 'ray.cc' at line 217 failed. (Spider:3) 11:39:13 -!- scummos__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:46:53 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:49:22 !vault volcano_lake 11:49:22 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/portals/volcano.des#L781 11:49:25 ^ this seems to be broken 11:50:01 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 11:50:07 it has a chance of just not generating any path at all 11:53:37 probably because there are two 'u's and no 'r' 11:53:41 !tell gammafunk i had a dream last night that donald trump did a rally in DCSS and died to a juggernaut on the way out 11:53:42 minmay: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 11:54:10 but had he at least gotten the orb first? 11:55:00 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:55:10 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 11:56:18 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.20-a0-23-g8907a59: Fix volcano_lake 10(50 seconds ago, 1 file, 10+ 10-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8907a59c6660 11:56:40 03PleasingFungus02 07[stone_soup-0.19] * 0.19.0-6-g94aa616: Remove an incorrect changelog entry 10(4 days ago, 1 file, 0+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/94aa61687eaa 11:56:40 03PleasingFungus02 07[stone_soup-0.19] * 0.19.0-7-g529c597: Fix volcano_lake 10(72 seconds ago, 1 file, 10+ 10-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/529c5971e39d 12:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:01:50 Stable (0.19) branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.19.0-7-g529c597 12:02:59 -!- n1ki is now known as n1 12:06:47 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.20-a0-23-g8907a59 (34) 12:09:23 Stable (0.19) branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19.0-7-g529c597 12:10:47 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 12:15:48 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:17:16 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:18:36 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.20-a0-23-g8907a59 (34) 12:25:02 -!- THERetroGamerNY has quit [Quit: Be Blessed!] 12:30:03 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 12:31:11 -!- vale_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:31:35 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 12:34:24 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:36:49 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:37:03 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 12:40:20 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 12:40:53 -!- sysice has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:43:50 -!- Zxpr1jk has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:46:59 -!- Pacra_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:47:24 -!- Pacra_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:50:35 -!- SteelNeuron has joined ##crawl-dev 12:51:48 Brannock: the higher 0.19 winrate is probably due to amulet of harm 12:52:23 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 12:52:27 You take off the amulet of harm. The game's difficulty is drained! 12:52:34 haha 12:52:35 there's some command to find the % of t wins some # of days after the start 12:52:38 so you can compare like for like 12:52:41 i forget what though 12:53:28 -!- jehoesefat has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:53:45 PleasingFungus: so, did your amazing experience w/ the halfling motivate you to want to help rebuild the (q)uiver menu around goldified ammo? 12:53:48 -!- FiftyNine has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:54:06 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 12:54:13 i could poke at it 12:54:30 is there a branch 12:54:36 !!! <-- exclamation marks of joy 12:54:41 PleasingFungus: yeah, ranged_reform 12:54:47 i am not promising anything 12:55:08 what exactly needs doing? just rewriting quiver.cc or w/e? 12:55:14 yeah, basically 12:55:25 and then making launchers wieldable, but that scares me less 12:55:48 The current branch is one commit before goldified ammo. I have a semi-complete commit for it locally, but the quiver part is pretty confused. 12:56:43 is it one gold per ammo or what? 12:57:24 -!- geekosaur has quit [Excess Flood] 12:57:30 Brannock: it's abstracting ammo into non-items 12:57:32 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:57:35 just character properties 12:57:40 ohh 12:57:41 -!- Ge0ff has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:57:44 yeah, gotchu 12:58:23 the branch already has all ammo brands removed, and also blowguns, so it's easy to abstract 12:58:23 -!- geekosaur has joined ##crawl-dev 13:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:00:20 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 13:04:16 related to the ghost crab bug 13:04:25 I just polymorphed an oklob into a death cob 13:04:30 "bug" tho imo 13:05:00 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:05:12 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:05:19 we had a big discussion about that the other day 13:05:59 I think I had intended that when I wrote the patch and even said so in the patch note 13:09:38 it's a lil weird that you can poly something into a death cob but not poly a death cob 13:12:38 -!- nikheizen has joined ##crawl-dev 13:14:15 yeah I hadn't thought about that too deeply I don't think 13:16:16 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 13:20:24 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:20:57 I agree that it's weird 13:21:07 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 13:21:08 imo it should have to be a 100% holiness match 13:24:40 -!- LordSloth has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 13:24:44 Lasty: Are you keeping slings 13:24:48 -!- ZiBuDo has joined ##crawl-dev 13:25:10 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 13:26:08 Lightli: in draft one, yes. Eventually I think it might be good to remove them. 13:26:14 -!- ZiBuDo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:26:17 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:26:22 how come? 13:26:57 -!- FiftyNine has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:27:53 -!- ZiBuDo has joined ##crawl-dev 13:34:22 -!- FiftyNine has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:34:47 -!- tollymain has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 13:37:56 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:41:30 -!- koboldina has joined ##crawl-dev 13:42:11 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 13:46:34 hey do any of you guys know if summons damage do/should increase usk piety? 13:47:30 someone earlier said they didn't 13:47:50 aw 13:48:02 my dream of sitting behind a wall of summons and instagibbing things occasionally: ruined 13:48:17 lol 13:48:18 some dance 13:48:58 that's the nodding-head-in-time "dance" 13:51:26 I mean I'm making other things dance 13:51:28 usk should be happy about that 13:51:38 I'm like a dance coordinator 13:54:46 -!- charly_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:00:05 -!- LordSloth has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 14:00:05 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:00:19 -!- FiftyNine has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 14:00:46 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:03:11 PleasingFungus: i started looking into the holy beam distinctions and i'm regretting it heavily 14:03:15 lmao 14:03:20 highlights? 14:04:00 SPELL_HOLY_BREATH deals BEAM_HOLY damage on impact, but creates CLOUD_HOLY_FLAMES (which deal BEAM_HOLY_FLAME damage) 14:04:27 cleansing flame obviously deals BEAM_HOLY damage (which is called "holy energy") 14:04:36 and, of course, BEAM_HOLY_FLAME is called "cleansing flame" 14:04:45 i'm glad of it 14:07:00 ...and this is *after* holy damage was cleaned up a bit... 14:07:38 i'm not actually sure what the difference between BEAM_HOLY and BEAM_HOLY_FLAME even is 14:07:54 i think res_holy_energy makes you immune to both 14:08:26 -!- knickermancer has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:09:06 BEAM_HOLY_FLAME applies fire conducts 14:09:16 yes, also djinn are immune to holy flame 14:09:16 and djinn are immune to it (lol) 14:09:20 haha 14:09:22 o/ 14:09:27 \o 14:10:09 i think holy flames don't actually deal extra damage if you're evil??? 14:10:11 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 14:10:22 nice 14:10:22 just on impact 14:11:24 hm, i can't see anything that would make holy flames resisted by anything. i assume i'm missing something 14:11:35 !source actor_cloud_immune 14:11:36 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/cloud.cc#L853 14:11:49 ah, i was just looking at the beam type 14:11:52 technically true, but nothing uses the beam except for the clouds 14:11:57 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 14:12:24 -!- Pacra_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:13:42 -!- OrphineM_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:14:34 do i still need autosacrifice in my rc for fedhas? 14:14:45 autosacrifice is gone 14:15:03 ah okay so this stuff is dead lines 14:15:30 (oh wait how does toadstooling work now that p is gone) 14:15:53 it's an ability if you want them immediately, otherwise you just get piety when it happens naturally (or when you leave the level) 14:15:57 it happens automatically whenever they rot away or you leave the floor, or you can invoke it manually with an (a)bility 14:15:59 damn it 14:16:11 :) 14:16:14 is this revenge for the djinn thing 14:16:19 heh 14:16:26 PF: ty 14:16:31 Lightli: how come which? 14:16:50 how come you're considering sling removal 14:16:56 mpa: ty2 14:17:30 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 14:19:05 Lightli: because it might make sense to consolidate all ranged weapons into one skill, and if so, there's no real need for slings to exist, and it would be nice to consolidate ammo into "ammo" or "shafts" or something, which slings manifestly do not fire 14:19:29 at least keep Punk 14:19:43 (also I thought the point of slings was to be the one-handed ranged weapon) 14:20:38 consolidate all ammo into bullets. boom! 14:21:31 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.20-a0-24-g884808d: Don't scream at non-monsters (minmay) 10(36 seconds ago, 1 file, 3+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/884808d5b052 14:21:49 03PleasingFungus02 07[stone_soup-0.19] * 0.19.0-8-g38d8155: Don't scream at non-monsters (minmay) 10(54 seconds ago, 1 file, 3+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/38d8155a56f0 14:22:06 MarvinPA: what do you think about removing the banishment XP penalty? 14:22:10 it's sort of a weird way to balance an ability 14:24:24 -!- Dingo has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:25:15 hmm, i dunno 14:25:45 would you remove it from pacification too? and slimify? 14:26:47 maybe! they're all slightly different cases 14:26:48 i guess it's kinda mechanically weird but it doesn't seem like an unreasonable thing to me 14:26:56 03PabloMansanet02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/387 * 0.20-a0-62-g977c42b: Tone down flying weapon damage and precision 10(5 minutes ago, 2 files, 7+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/977c42baf4a5 14:27:09 what's your reasoning for it? 14:27:14 for banishment, i guess 14:28:14 -!- simmarine_ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:29:26 -!- simmarine has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:29:39 i guess just that you maybe shouldn't get the full benefits for killing things with a relatively spammable instant kill 14:30:06 could be fine to replace it with a higher piety cost, although that would play kinda differently 14:30:45 i mean, you're already losing out on any loot they had 14:31:48 true, i don't think that's very much of a concern most of the time though 14:31:59 the hat of gastronok... 14:32:07 hrm 14:32:36 !messages 14:32:36 No messages for ZiBuDo. 14:32:47 i think the gameplay result is sort of neat, in that you can do dangerous things (eg lair rune vaults) earlier but do get a noticeably lower reward for it 14:32:55 -!- adibis has joined ##crawl-dev 14:33:12 it just feels weird to me in that we're asking players to weigh xp vs tactical advantage, which we don't usually do - kills with heroism on don't give you reduced xp 14:33:16 etc etc 14:33:23 i'm not sure it's bad, it's just odd 14:33:28 do we actually communicate it to the player? 14:33:42 ah, in the abil description 14:33:51 yeah, although not for the brand probably 14:33:53 so not for distortion weapons - 14:33:55 yeah 14:35:40 I have to ask: was the interface for self-targeting wands changed? 14:35:51 does . target the @? 14:38:27 i'm not aware of changes 14:40:16 -!- Charmandara has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:40:20 I need to test again, with a character that's not about to win. 14:40:32 lol 14:40:36 -!- adibis has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:42:57 dpeg: Vv.Y will target you, yes 14:43:03 -!- nikitamog has joined ##crawl-dev 14:45:49 -!- Lantell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:45:59 -!- Lantell has joined ##crawl-dev 14:46:36 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. 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It worked well and was a lot of fun! 14:58:39 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 15:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:00:45 -!- Tux[Qyou] is now known as Tux[Qnope] 15:01:32 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:04:19 -!- Tux[Qnope] is now known as Tux[Qlies] 15:04:34 -!- Tux[Qlies] is now known as Tux[Qyou] 15:06:07 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 15:07:41 -!- gomie has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:09:28 Stable (0.19) branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19.0-8-g38d8155 15:10:12 -!- miek_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:10:29 -!- FiftyNine has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:10:49 I polymorphed Psyche into a centaur but she's still casting but none of her spells show up on her x-v 15:10:51 that's a bug right? 15:11:04 -!- OrphineM has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:13:25 ya 15:13:32 -!- johlstei has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:14:46 !source piety_breakpoint 15:14:47 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/religion.cc#L4223 15:15:13 -!- FiftyNine has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:15:25 SteelNeuron: impressive! 15:15:40 dpeg_ thanks :) 15:16:08 Sorry if I jumped the shark a little, I know things are busy at the moment so nobody has had time to comment on my PR, but I wanted to get it on the forums in case someone wants to take a look 15:16:35 No hurry though, I know the tournament is everyone's priority now! It would be mine too if I didn't suck 15:17:51 we generally don't merge new features until t is over. what pr is this? 15:17:56 SteelNeuron: I hope council god makes it to a server where I can play it (i.e.: console). This reads cool and fun! 15:18:43 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.20-a0-24-g884808d (34) 15:18:47 dpeg_: I talked to johnstein about that, he'll give me a hand after the tournament :) although the ease of doing that will depend on whether it is possible to open a branch on the main repo. Fingers crossed 15:19:02 * dpeg_ crossfingers too 15:19:15 PleasingFungus it's just a branch for a god that we've been discussing and that had generally good feedback (and quite a few changes since its inception three years ago haha) 15:19:18 yea, it's doable without an official branch, but that goes on dbro 15:19:34 and dbro has been kinda neglected lately. better exposure on cbro 15:19:40 PleasingFungus: years ago, there were tournaments where people would push big commits right after release :) 15:19:46 lol 15:20:18 so trunk people only played stable for the tournament, and complained noisily :) 15:21:06 Haha 15:21:11 FR: disable all non-0.19 versions during tournament to force people to play the new version 15:21:14 I should actually look into participating on the tournament... 15:21:24 I already disable experimentals. the others would be easy! 15:22:11 johnstein: also disable Sprints. "Nothing but tournament for you!" 15:22:38 a reasonable approach, surely 15:23:08 uninstall steam from the user's computer and set their browser homepage to webtiles 15:26:20 -!- scummos__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:29:01 any news on sequell updating? 15:32:03 -!- dpeg_ has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 15:32:14 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 15:34:17 PleasingFungus: did you see this? https://www.reddit.com/r/dcss/comments/5bg9y7/it_was_just_a_prank_lets_make_up_okay/ 15:34:17 gammafunk: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 15:34:47 gammafunk: has to become a feature! 15:35:50 it's actually my fault 15:36:09 since before only robin could throw I think; I didn't add a valid check 15:36:42 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 15:37:11 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.20-a0-25-ge6c2eab: Adjust some ability descriptions 10(41 minutes ago, 2 files, 13+ 19-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e6c2eab8a3f5 15:37:11 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.20-a0-26-g154eb2c: Remove the unused OPER_ID 10(40 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/154eb2c0c90f 15:37:15 03MarvinPA02 07[stone_soup-0.19] * 0.19.0-9-gfd783f2: Adjust some ability descriptions 10(41 minutes ago, 2 files, 13+ 19-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/fd783f2ec9d8 15:40:22 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:50:00 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 15:50:05 -!- Patashu__ has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 15:51:12 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Client Quit] 15:51:34 johnstein: docker-crawl is currently not working at all I'd say. In the middle of rewriting it completely. 15:53:38 -!- hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:56:59 gammafunk: oh, that's good! 15:57:16 -!- danielguo94 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:06:18 Mattias: cool! looking forward to trying it 16:06:18 hoping it could be what powers cbro mk2 16:09:24 Stable (0.19) branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19.0-9-gfd783f2 16:11:10 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 16:17:38 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 16:18:41 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.20-a0-26-g154eb2c (34) 16:22:22 <|amethyst> I like that the clan "Tlon Uqbar Orbis Zotii" has a member named "funes" 16:28:26 -!- AlphaQ_ has quit [Client Quit] 16:30:42 -!- harambe has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:31:25 -!- AlphaQ has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 16:31:29 -!- CacoS has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:31:49 -!- Kenran has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:34:05 -!- ElanMorin has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.5] 16:35:33 -!- dippn has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:35:46 -!- OrphineM has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:36:51 -!- KaKa has joined ##crawl-dev 16:37:54 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:37:57 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:38:29 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 16:39:15 -!- nikheizen has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:40:50 kaka, actually I meant *ask* in here, not just join the channel 16:41:02 (password reset, I don't know what server or etc.) 16:41:03 can the shadow mimic ripostes? 16:41:33 Yeah, sorry about that, http://crawl.akrasiac.org/scoring/players/kaka.html this is the account on akrasiac, i guess 16:42:20 Forgot my password and would like to recover it 16:42:22 !seen chequers 16:42:22 I last saw chequers at Sun Nov 6 11:18:43 2016 UTC (10h 23m 38s ago) saying 'hows the t going' on ##crawl-dev. 16:45:48 -!- slitherrr has joined ##crawl-dev 16:45:51 .ocs 16:45:52 106. Medar the Conqueror (L27 GrGl of The Shining One), blasted by a starcursed mass (accursed screaming) (summoned by an orange crystal statue) on Abyss:5 (doesnt_abyss_rune_brain_food) on 2016-11-06 18:29:06, with 1106926 points after 82501 turns and 4:56:05. 16:46:06 <|amethyst> KaKa: sec 16:46:08 Doesnty: nice dev kill (assuming you're doesnt) 16:46:17 not sure how intentional the behavior is, but i managed to see an instance where a convoker finished its convocation in between my swing and its death, which was kinda weird 16:46:18 whuh 16:46:24 oh nice 16:47:24 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 16:48:39 You could see 28 starcursed masses, 16:49:00 <|amethyst> KaKa: okay, email sent 16:49:02 Doesnty: there's probably space for some more 16:49:17 that's why he died 16:49:27 ...went over 27.... 16:49:27 yeah 16:49:37 was he brainless? 16:49:43 .ocs x=int,str,dex 16:49:44 106. [int=9;str=31;dex=16] Medar the Conqueror (L27 GrGl of The Shining One), blasted by a starcursed mass (accursed screaming) (summoned by an orange crystal statue) on Abyss:5 (doesnt_abyss_rune_brain_food) on 2016-11-06 18:29:06, with 1106926 points after 82501 turns and 4:56:05. 16:49:44 ..no 16:49:48 9 (11) int 16:49:51 |amethyst: Gotit, Thanks for you time! 16:50:16 .ocs -tv:<2 16:50:17 106. Medar, XL27 GrGl, T:82501 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 16:51:15 hoboy 16:51:33 zerkitis from temp mut 16:52:03 .splatratio medar 16:52:04 % of xl17 chars killed recentish: 15/57x Medar [26.32%] 16:52:21 welp, lessoned learned about rushing into rune vaults, I'm sure 16:52:30 Friendly ancient zyme causes sickness 16:52:37 !tstats 16:52:44 Stats after 16 days (t): 1063 players, 306 runers, 142 winners, 206 wins, 8972 games, winrate 2.30%, total player time 186d+20:27:30. 16:52:56 !tstats 2 16:52:56 &versions 0.19 16:53:02 Stats after 2 days (t): 1042 players, 297 runers, 140 winners, 197 wins, 8558 games, winrate 2.30%, total player time 178d+21:42:12. 16:53:03 CAO: 0.19.0-7-g529c597, CBRO: 0.19.0-2-gae57169, CDO: none, CJR: none, CPO: 0.19.0, CUE: none, CWZ: 0.19.0-2-gae57169, CXC: 0.19.0-2-gae57169, LLD: 0.19.0-2-gae57169 16:53:06 johnstein: those aren't accurate 16:53:13 until we get all servers in sequell 16:53:18 ah yea 16:53:26 we're missing all of cjr, cdo, and many cwz games 16:53:37 !serverstats t 16:53:37 9773 games for * (t): 3866x cbro [478], 2355x cao [321], 2252x cxc [183], 739x cwz [72], 405x cpo [39], 156x lld [17] 16:53:38 and all of cue 16:53:58 yeah cwz should be closer to cao or cbro 16:54:18 missing at least 2/3 of its t games 16:54:19 guessing green snark has just been busy? 16:54:36 yeah, no word back 16:54:40 t scripts are processing everything though 16:55:12 we should ask if there's a way to add a backup. I have shalott access but only the crawl account 16:55:51 yeah, not sure sure if he can make sequell restartable for new config under that account or what 16:56:21 I doubt it. looks like a separate user account 16:56:39 we really need an infrastructures team 16:56:50 well it's certainly possible technically 16:57:00 |amethyst mentioned that long time ago. I think when cbro first showed up 16:57:17 I mean if he'd want that to happen, maybe he doesn't or can't for security reasons or whatnot 16:58:42 !tstats 2 t0.18 16:59:13 -!- KiT_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:59:33 Stats after 2 days (t0.18): 1109 players, 266 runers, 119 winners, 170 wins, 8558 games, winrate 1.99%, total player time 171d+14:29:07. 16:59:53 -!- adelrune has joined ##crawl-dev 17:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:01:33 -!- keszocze has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:02:47 !tstats 2 t0.18 !cjr !cue !cwz !cdo 17:03:27 seems that more games and more play time are a thing this t 17:03:27 gammafunk: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 17:03:36 Stats after 2 days (t0.18 !cjr !cue !cwz !cdo): 876 players, 210 runers, 98 winners, 142 wins, 6688 games, winrate 2.12%, total player time 136d+19:34:09. 17:04:07 !tell regret-index It's hard to keep all that straight! I try to add them to the right place, but the designations seem confusing still, even if they mostly make sense 17:04:07 gammafunk: OK, I'll let regret-index know. 17:04:11 !tstats 2 !cjr !cue !cwz !cdo 17:04:16 Stats after 2 days (!cjr !cue !cwz !cdo): 5 players, 0 runers, 0 winners, 0 wins, 29 games, winrate 0.00%, total player time 3:44:25. 17:04:27 you forgot to add t 17:04:31 oops 17:04:34 if you add args, it no longer assumes just t 17:04:53 !tstats 2 t !cjr !cue !cwz !cdo 17:04:54 Stats after 2 days (t !cjr !cue !cwz !cdo): 974 players, 267 runers, 125 winners, 179 wins, 7882 games, winrate 2.27%, total player time 168d+11:03:55. 17:05:17 yea. slightly more players and wins 17:05:24 win rate goes up, power spiral, gotta nerf 17:05:29 yeah, but it might be when the t is held 17:05:54 well. we haven't found this tourney's melee bug yet 17:06:14 * dpeg blames it on Hepliaqlkana 17:06:14 * Sequell also blames it on Hepliaqlkana 17:06:21 this t's melee bug will be that there is no melee bug 17:06:35 !tstats 2 !cjr !cue !cwz !cdo t0.17 17:07:15 t0.17 was held just two days later in 2015 17:07:24 two days later than this one 17:07:27 Stats after 2 days (!cjr !cue !cwz !cdo t0.17): 1131 players, 269 runers, 135 winners, 193 wins, 10115 games, winrate 1.91%, total player time 201d+13:03:26. 17:08:03 t0.18 already had slightly lower turnout than t0.17 17:08:15 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 17:08:34 yeah, but I wanted to compare tournaments held at the same time of year 17:09:21 the largest portion of the difference between spring t and fall t is due to when it's held 17:10:47 yes, I understand 17:12:03 what's that thing to turn durations into ints 17:12:44 we see a seasonal difference? 17:13:08 spring just isn't a popular crawling time? 17:13:23 .echo $(pduration "168d+11:03:55") 17:13:23 14555035 17:13:37 .echo $(pduration "201d+13:03:26") 17:13:38 17413406 17:13:48 johnstein: people go for picnics and merry fornication in spring, but in fall they'll play crawl 17:13:51 actually, wrong numbers 17:14:27 .echo $(pduration 171d+14:29:07) 17:14:27 14826547 17:15:00 .echo $(pduration 201d+13:03:26) / $(pduration 171d+14:29:07) 17:15:01 17413406 / 14826547 17:15:11 .echo !calc $(pduration 201d+13:03:26) / $(pduration 171d+14:29:07) 17:15:11 !calc 17413406 / 14826547 17:15:14 !calc $(pduration 201d+13:03:26) / $(pduration 171d+14:29:07) 17:15:15 1 17:15:16 hrm 17:15:44 !calc $(float (pduration 201d+13:03:26) / $(pduration 171d+14:29:07) 17:15:45 Broken query near ' 201d+13:03:26) / 14826547$ fmt:"${x[0]}"' 17:15:51 !calc $(float (pduration 201d+13:03:26)) / $(pduration 171d+14:29:07) 17:15:52 1.17 17:16:06 !calc $(float (pduration 201d+13:03:26)) / $(float (pduration 171d+14:29:07)) 17:16:07 1.17 17:16:09 ok good 17:16:22 er 17:17:06 !calc $(float (pduration 171d+14:29:07)) / (pduration 201d+13:03:26) 17:17:06 Broken query near 'd+13:03:26)$ fmt:"${x[0]}"' 17:17:34 !calc $(float (pduration 171d+14:29:07)) / $(pduration 201d+13:03:26) 17:17:35 0.85 17:18:16 !calc $(float (pduration 171d+14:29:07)) / $(pduration 201d+13:03:26) * $(pduration 168d+11:03:55) 17:18:17 12392803.02 17:19:21 .echo $(fduration 12392803.02) 17:19:21 143d+10:26:43 17:19:42 -!- mrdesaussure has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:21:10 so even with a crude adjustment for season it's still slightly up from 0.18 17:21:39 gammafunk: we're also tapping into the Asian markets much more efficiently now 17:21:55 ...mostly due to talented advertisers like you! 17:22:14 as long as you don't think that's actually true! 17:22:22 yeah, gfunk isn't talented :) 17:22:31 yeah neither of those are true 17:22:40 !send gammafunk talent 17:22:41 Sending talent to gammafunk. 17:22:51 but this one is true: rchandra has terrible taste in glyphs 17:22:56 mmm 17:23:01 I need to fight PFs claims 17:23:12 -!- SteelNeuron has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:24:01 gammafunk: I'm telling this to everyone I meet: "Have you heard about this gammafunk guy? He's taking Korea by storm." 17:24:11 also, adders are the banes of my felids 17:24:18 dpeg: exclude them 17:24:34 -!- adelrune has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:24:38 and remember that doors kill adders! 17:24:52 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:24:59 fr: cats can't door 17:25:54 my cat can door 17:27:00 !nchoice 17:27:01 every cat my family has had could use doors, except two. the two males. 17:27:06 GhCj: 0 wins || zkyp: CXC, L21 Hoplite of Ru || Beholder179: CXC, L17 Brawler of Yredelemnul || staplegun: CBRO, L16 Warrior of Hepliaklqana || Orph: CAO, L15 Bludgeoner of Trog || Leszczynek: CXC, L11 Grappler of Nemelex Xobeh || derrpe: CAO, L1 Conjurer of No God 17:27:15 they're smart enought to know that there's no point 17:27:25 =nemelex FeAK 17:27:27 Defined keyword: nchoice => OpWr|HEAr|KoIE|DDAE|CeVM|HOWz|GrEn|GhCj 17:27:32 oh right 17:27:44 !kw nchoice OpWr|HEAr|KoIE|DDAE|CeVM|HOWz|GrEn|GhCj|FeAK 17:27:45 Defined keyword: nchoice => OpWr|HEAr|KoIE|DDAE|CeVM|HOWz|GrEn|GhCj|FeAK 17:30:35 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:31:18 -!- KaKa has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:35:44 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:38:21 -!- Kranix has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 17:38:57 ^status 17:38:57 111 Crawlers. CBRO disk usage=80% (135GB) | RAM usage=78% (4GB)| uptime/CPU= 17:38:57 up 724 days, 3:57, 9 users, load average: 3.08, 3.13, 3.06 (4 Cores) http://status.berotato.org 17:39:17 dpeg: hi 17:39:23 still holding together! 17:40:16 johnstein: keep it up 17:41:04 with increasing the number of websocket connections, I haven't heard of any websocket complaints like last tourney. but I think now it's possible to actually run out of RAM 17:41:10 but looks like we haven't yet 17:41:33 chequers: hi! Do you have any plans for the scoring page? 17:41:34 crawl needs a major equipment manufacturer sponsorship or something 17:41:41 CPO has been about 2x busier during t 17:42:03 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:42:05 !lg * month cbro s=day(start) -graph:area 17:42:06 47513 games for * (month cbro): https://shalott.org/graphs/1d51df183f81ce11046e7b6d5e5178a0151746eb.html 17:42:29 !kw t 17:42:30 Built-in: t => start>='2016-11-04 20:00:00' time<'2016-11-20 20:00:00' cv=0.19 explbr= 17:42:52 !lg * month cbro s=day(start) start>='2016-10-01 20:00:00' -graph:area 17:42:54 47339 games for * (month cbro start>='2016-10-01 20:00:00'): https://shalott.org/graphs/2a390e15e9404f3d41afc5ccb2afe565f0f6b8dd.html 17:43:13 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:43:20 !lg * month s=day(start),src start>='2016-10-01 20:00:00' -graph:area 17:43:22 149372 games for * (month start>='2016-10-01 20:00:00'): https://shalott.org/graphs/58b07bb9af5979222daec422c2012b6d8f08d2c9.html 17:51:38 -!- slitherrr has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:04:04 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:05:11 -!- nikitamog has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 18:11:43 Friendly ancient zyme causes sickness 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10769 by Yermak 18:12:55 !lg * won 1 18:12:56 1/48956. greensnark the Annihilator (L27 TeAE of Vehumet), escaped with the Orb and 4 runes on 2006-12-28 15:26:49, with 1238285 points after 140676 turns and 1d+1:50:33. 18:14:54 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 18:15:37 -!- Cacophony has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:15:58 Friendly ancient zyme 18:16:03 now there's a situation that happens often 18:16:08 -!- jeefus has joined ##crawl-dev 18:16:21 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.20-a0-26-g154eb2c (34) 18:18:36 chequers: ten years 18:19:53 -!- jefus- has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:25:45 -!- nikheizen has joined ##crawl-dev 18:25:46 you should blog post about it on the 10 year anniversary 18:26:01 get blade to do a special guest post analysing it 18:26:08 that's a good idea, i'm going to PM about it 18:26:11 !seen blade- 18:26:11 I last saw Blade- at Sun Oct 16 01:13:19 2016 UTC (3w 22h 12m 51s ago) quitting, saying 'Quit: Lost terminal'. 18:26:14 !seen blade 18:26:14 I last saw Blade at Sat Feb 13 09:16:03 2016 UTC (38w 1d 14h 10m 10s ago) quitting, saying 'Ping timeout: 252 seconds'. 18:28:21 -!- Yermak has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:31:42 will monsters just not step into a web if it's the only thing blocking a corridor? 18:34:41 -!- whoami_ has quit [Client Quit] 18:35:11 i've definitely seen monsters move into webs without being forced to 18:35:25 chequers: indeed, cool idea! 18:46:05 -!- Cacophony has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:52:51 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 19:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:06:01 -!- Cacophony has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:06:11 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:10:18 -!- Ququman has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:12:04 -!- removeelyvilon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:12:51 -!- Lantell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:13:00 -!- Lantell has joined ##crawl-dev 19:13:43 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:14:53 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:15:38 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:20:29 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:22:27 -!- jehoesefat has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:25:02 -!- Lantell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:25:11 -!- Lantell has joined ##crawl-dev 19:26:23 -!- Cacophony has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:29:12 !nchoice 19:29:15 FeAK: 0 wins || No FeAK games in progress. 19:29:23 dubious... 19:29:48 rip nchoice 19:29:58 you finally found a combo nobody will attempt 19:30:59 sorry, turns out the europeans are crazy enough to play feak 19:31:28 I'm too lazy to check cdo, since that has to be over console 19:31:40 super feak? 19:31:41 but yeah it looks like literally one game 19:31:44 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:31:47 bh: are you playing this t? 19:34:00 Shopping list price incorrect 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10770 by rjaguar3 19:34:10 man, no good kills so far for me 19:37:18 here is a summary of feak https://vine.co/v/iZ36jgYUlrm 19:38:05 cats don't urinate like that 19:44:31 !lg dpeg op 19:44:32 786. dpeg the Insei (L5 OpTm), blasted by Izlij's ghost (orb of energy) on D:4 on 2016-11-03 09:04:21, with 122 points after 2924 turns and 0:04:13. 19:44:40 hrm 19:44:42 !lg dpeg t won 19:44:43 No games for dpeg (t won). 19:44:48 oh right 19:45:26 dpeg: glad that your transmutopode worked out 19:45:51 !lg . won !gfspeed 19:45:53 66. gammafunk the Brawler (L27 TrGl of Uskayaw), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2016-11-02 03:32:59, with 1581940 points after 83822 turns and 8:04:19. 19:45:55 !lg . won !gfspeed s =char 19:45:55 66 games for gammafunk (won !gfspeed): 2x SpEn, 2x OpTm, OpDK, DDGl, DDHe, DEAs, DEEn, DgEE, DgWn, DrMo, DrNe, DrTm, DsDK, DsFi, DsNe, FeCj, FeCK, FoAK, FoVM, GhEE, GhMo, GrDK, GrWn, HaAM, HaAr, HaCj, HECK, HEFi, HEWr, HOAs, HOFE, HOWz, HuNe, HuSk, HuSu, KoAr, KoEn, KoHu, KoMo, MfSk, MfWz, MuGl, MuIE, NaAE, NaVM, NaWn, OgAK, OgAr, CeAr, OpSu, VSCj, BaNe, SpHu, SpWr, TeAE, TeFE, TrCK, TrGl, TrHu, T... 19:46:02 oh, I also won spen twice 19:46:24 was going to say that oddly optm was the only casual char I won twice 19:48:01 -!- tksquared has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:50:10 gammafunk: playing FeAK but it's hard :) 19:50:12 !lm . 19:50:16 15401. [2016-11-03 09:00:06] dpeg the Insei (L1 OpTm) began the quest for the Orb on turn 0. (D:1) 19:50:36 -!- squidcat has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:50:36 -!- ythm has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:50:51 cdo not in sequell for 0.19 19:50:57 yes 19:51:06 but yeah, felid melee you have to use your move speed to run away from things that are scary at first 19:51:21 ak does help tho 19:51:54 dpeg: if you keep doing melee, again transmutations are good with felid for the same reasons as op, even more so since you have no sh 19:52:40 yes 19:52:45 dragon cat is even nicer since you don't sacrifice sh, but statue cat also works very well 19:53:20 I only played/won a Fe very recently, in my attempt to become greaterdpeg after all 19:53:26 it was a lot more fun than I expected 19:53:29 and blade cat is a nice upgrade from normal cat 19:54:48 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 19:55:47 my Sewer map has a bug :( 19:55:52 and I gave one life in it 19:56:16 no shallow water path... 19:59:19 probably an area with nothing in it? 20:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:01:06 -!- Cacophony has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:03:40 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:04:03 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 20:09:45 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 20:16:10 -!- insecticide10 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:19:16 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 20:19:52 webtiles chat quote: NhorianScum: Im pretty sure hep just exists to make tavern shut up about fedhas mushroooms 20:19:58 I hadn't considered that tbh 20:20:17 about them being the most powerful early god thing or w/e? 20:20:20 yeah 20:20:43 so 20:20:46 your plan has been exposed! 20:21:10 -!- Cacophony has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:22:46 plan... 20:23:04 gammafunk: are you streaming? 20:23:12 looking like tomorrow 20:23:16 sorry can 20:23:21 don't you ever stream? 20:23:34 geeze, the amount of techno/voice sampling 20:23:38 in a CanOfWorms stream 20:23:40 every time I go to the bathroom 20:24:00 !nchoice 20:24:03 FeAK: 0 wins || No FeAK games in progress. 20:24:11 what if tomorrow FeAK is still nem choice 20:24:35 feak out, I guess 20:24:36 there is a significant chance of this! 20:24:49 but I won feck! I shouldn't have to play felids again after that! 20:25:16 play dgne instead 20:25:25 or mune 20:25:25 they're the most valuable combo right now! 20:25:47 I think my first win should be nem choice, but maybe I'll look at the table 20:25:55 or do a chat vote or something 20:26:25 clan name: When lesser beckoning goes horribly wrong 20:26:46 is that a reference to something? 20:26:57 shame my tesu died to a freak black mamba bite 20:27:09 there are no freak black mamab bites! 20:27:14 it was worth TWO HUNDRED POINTS 20:27:24 well the black mamba took off like half my health 20:27:47 you got to treat those fast lair things with great respect 20:27:56 but you should never die to one (esp as a Su) 20:28:02 I thought I brought you up right, CanOfWorms 20:28:37 now dying to a vampiric leech... 20:28:45 sorry, what are they now 20:28:48 it was right next to me when I went down stairs 20:28:50 tyrant leach 20:28:53 *leech 20:28:59 and I burned my last tp running away from an anaconda 20:29:06 in lair?! 20:29:15 surprisingly 20:29:36 rupert was probably warning me to just leave lair and explore D... 20:29:55 well tesu should feel a lot like desu 20:30:20 you got to really take care with things due to ache pees 20:30:38 !lg . !gfspeed lair !boring 20:30:40 25. gammafunk the Cruncher (L11 DEWn of Fedhas), slain by a blink frog on Lair:1 on 2016-05-19 01:53:27, with 12467 points after 20849 turns and 1:15:49. 20:30:48 is sequell fixed with cjr yet btw 20:30:49 !lg 20:30:50 132. wormsofcan the Grand Gadgeteer (L27 KoHu of Pakellas), escaped with the Orb and 6 runes on 2016-09-21 22:19:37, with 3058795 points after 116233 turns and 8:13:16. 20:30:53 nope 20:30:55 newp 20:31:08 !lg . !gfspeed lair !boring -2 20:31:09 24/25. gammafunk the Cruncher (L11 DEWn of Fedhas), slain by a spiny frog on Lair:3 on 2016-05-19 00:26:46, with 15094 points after 21572 turns and 1:24:09. 20:31:14 er 20:31:18 lol 20:31:37 I probably really hated those chars 20:31:40 !lg . !gfspeed lair !boring -3 20:31:41 23/25. gammafunk the Bludgeoner (L12 OgAK of Lugonu), slain by an eight-headed hydra on Lair:1 (patterned_corridor) on 2016-02-01 06:11:39, with 14466 points after 18746 turns and 0:50:42. 20:31:57 yeah that was just "let's see what happens when I try to banish it" 20:31:59 !lg . !gfspeed lair !boring -4 20:32:00 22/25. gammafunk the Spear-Bearer (L11 FoAM of Yredelemnul), slain by a blink frog (kmap: grunt_megastairs_1) on Lair:2 on 2016-02-01 04:54:18, with 10724 points after 19715 turns and 1:37:33. 20:32:10 ug, foam was the worst 20:32:14 !lg . !gfspeed lair !boring -5 20:32:15 21/25. gammafunk the Carver (L13 HaAr of Pakellas), blasted by Josephine (ghostly fireball) on Lair:5 on 2015-11-26 04:54:09, with 25650 points after 26392 turns and 2:02:27. 20:32:22 oh yeah, I remember that 20:33:18 looks like this dg may be rodding it up 20:34:59 ??pakellas[3 20:34:59 pakellas[3/3]: Rods out for Pakellas :( 20:38:55 such a nifty slogan 20:40:51 I wonder if it was sewer_minmay_w 20:40:51 |amethyst: a funny thing about the tourney pages, they make all the internal links absolute so even if you use https all links are http 20:41:37 -!- Dunwich has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:41:54 it is 20:47:29 hark, I've fixed the bug but I forgot username *and* password for github :( 20:48:54 -!- protopulse has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:49:13 dpeg: https://github.com/dpeg 20:49:14 -!- protopulse has joined ##crawl-dev 20:49:17 ^ username 20:49:28 thanks, a very good first step :) 20:49:36 :) 20:50:01 as self-flagellation, I'll add a vault of my own. once I sort out this mess 20:51:02 03dpeg02 07* 0.20-a0-27-g03dcb65: Fix minmay_sewer_w. 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/03dcb65de53f 20:51:10 I was only one letter off with the password, not bad. 20:51:16 heh 21:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:02:45 -!- LordSloth has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 21:07:39 -!- johlstei has joined ##crawl-dev 21:09:15 finally found my temple in game!!! 21:09:21 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.20-a0-27-g03dcb65 (34) 21:09:35 %git fc0b937 21:09:35 07chequers02 * 0.18-a0-159-gfc0b937: Temple vault: Sunken Temple 10(12 months ago, 1 file, 72+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/fc0b937750d1 21:10:17 just 1 year... 21:10:36 chequers: what's one year for an eternal game? 21:12:00 -!- anthems has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:13:36 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:15:49 New branch created: gift_notifications (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/tree/gift_notifications 21:15:49 03PleasingFungus02 07[gift_notifications] * 0.20-a0-25-g56c8bc5: Message for god gift piety breakpoints 10(43 seconds ago, 1 file, 10+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/56c8bc537f0f 21:20:55 yes please 21:21:26 not insanely happy about the messages 21:21:34 !seen koboldina 21:21:34 I last saw koboldina at Mon Nov 7 02:07:12 2016 UTC (14m 21s ago) saying 'apparently lerny can be killed just by spamming 400 cbls' on ##crawl. 21:21:39 oh, that's true 21:24:52 hm 21:24:53 !seen marvinpa 21:24:54 I last saw MarvinPA at Sun Nov 6 22:42:02 2016 UTC (3h 42m 51s ago) quitting, saying 'Quit: Leaving'. 21:24:58 w/e 21:25:34 does anyone have opinions on the thing where uniques, specifically, keep their spells if they're polymorphed directly into a human-intelligence monster that doesn't have any spells of its own, but not if they got polymorphed to something else earlier? 21:25:46 i kind of feel like removing it 21:25:52 since it's the most special case secret thing in the world 21:26:34 !source orb_limits_translocation 21:26:35 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/orb.cc#L82 21:27:13 PleasingFungus: what about allowing all forms of uniques to cast? 21:27:23 heh 21:27:28 r-i just said the exact same thing 21:27:39 it feels weird to privilege uniques 21:27:57 like, why should uniques get to keep casting when other monsters lose their spells? 21:28:05 -!- dpeg_ has joined ##crawl-dev 21:28:05 being able to poly certain uniques so they stop being annoying is really important for my game enjoyment 21:28:09 they're not normally 'special' otherwise, beyond a few hidden things (more likely to show up in abyss) 21:28:16 also, what chequers said, ofc 21:28:21 idk if you got my last message 21:28:25 no, sorry 21:28:32 but uniques continuing to keep their spells feels cool, and the real problem I described is that sonja fucking sucks 21:28:33 [18:27] PleasingFungus r-i just said the exact same thing 21:28:34 but I note that I am alone... as usual 21:28:34 hi pleasingfungus 21:28:35 [18:27] PleasingFungus it feels weird to privilege uniques 21:28:36 [18:27] PleasingFungus like, why should uniques get to keep casting when other monsters lose their spells? 21:28:48 (r-i said the same thing as you, dpeg, did) 21:28:53 were you looking for me 21:28:56 ha, not alone, we move together! 21:28:59 i'm looking into the sonja thing 21:29:02 er 21:29:04 the psyche thing 21:29:08 psyche -> centaur 21:29:17 for more information I polymorphed her into a boggart and then a centaur 21:29:22 and while she was a boggart she kept her spells 21:29:28 and they were properly showing up on x-v 21:29:35 PleasingFungus: my thinking is that uniques don't need to be unduly nerfed from polymorph, and I think it's cool if they keep their spells even if animals 21:29:53 what does it mean to be 'unduly nerfed' 21:29:59 dpeg_ how are you making the necessary auditory sounds to cast spells if you are a bear 21:30:04 I want unique buff 21:30:06 it feels like poly wouldn't be doing much of anything to them if they keep their spells 21:30:20 koboldina: off the virtue of being a *unique* bear 21:30:27 do unique bears have human vocal coords 21:30:29 PleasingFungus: sounds good to me 21:30:54 seems really bad to me 21:31:24 you might as well remove poly wand entirely if you take away their usefulness vs uniques 21:31:24 i just don't like this idea of uniques being 'special' in having these special rules for keeping their spells. it's not something they do otherwise 21:31:25 realism-infected design :) 21:31:35 koboldina: don't be hyperbolic, please. 21:31:43 !seen hyperbolic 21:31:44 I last saw hyperbolic at Tue Nov 1 15:33:48 2016 UTC (5d 10h 57m 55s ago) joining the channel. 21:31:46 haha 21:31:48 well what other tactical situation would poly be useful in? 21:31:55 it's good against electric eels 21:31:57 koboldina: adders 21:31:59 other than like... I guess spell-less uniques with lots of armor and weapons, like urug 21:32:09 or sonja! 21:32:13 yes 21:32:32 man... poly is sooo spoilery. You have to memorise MR of everything. I never realised eels were a good target 21:32:38 uh 21:32:39 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:32:42 the HD, surely? 21:32:44 PleasingFungus: seriously, I don't mind either way, I just find a tiny bit cheap to disable spellcasting uniques by /poly (rather than ?silence, say) 21:32:45 MR is displayed... 21:33:03 poly is such a mixed bag anyway I mean you're taking a risk every time you use it because you might end up creating something that's worse for you even w/o the spells 21:33:06 dpeg_: cheaper than disablign them with /para? 21:33:13 or /confuse, etc 21:33:17 yes 21:33:23 nah 21:33:35 there are also really only a couple spellcasting uniques with low enough MR that poly even comes into play 21:33:38 anyway, i'm all for making uniques special, as long as it's consistent 21:33:43 chequers: +1 21:33:43 I can think of like two 21:33:43 it sounds funny 21:33:45 erica and psyche 21:33:55 sonja, maurice 21:34:00 nessos 21:34:03 oh right I forgot sonja blinks 21:34:05 consistency is the important one, so if you, PF, consistentify in either direction, it'll be good 21:34:17 +1 21:34:22 if you polymorph maurice into a bear does he keep af_steal 21:34:26 is he a kleptobear 21:34:34 sure thing 21:34:46 ^ implement keltpbears pls PleasingFungus 21:35:02 I poly'd an oklob and got a death cob 21:35:03 i'm for making uniques *individually* special 21:35:03 the unbearable kelt-wearing kleptobear 21:35:12 I also poly'd another one and got a thorn hunter 21:35:14 not for making the class of all uniques distinct from other monsters, as a class 21:35:16 btw totally unrelated but torpor snails can apparently give slow status to orbs of electricity and I think that's probably a bug? 21:35:18 if that makes any sense 21:35:29 PleasingFungus: it makes sense 21:35:30 koboldina: you mean ball lightning 21:35:38 also that seems fine to me 21:35:39 yes 21:35:47 no, koboldina is playing hellcrawl where orb spiders are electric orb spiders 21:35:49 ball lightnings are supposed to be hexable? 21:36:05 it's not a hex 21:36:09 it doesn't check mr or hd 21:36:18 wouldn't that be like slowing an orb of destro tho 21:36:19 PleasingFungus: thanks for the feedback on #390, I stole a tavern idea instead 21:36:26 03chequers02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/390 * 0.20-a0-17-gaa6c977: Add the orb status light whenever in Zot 10(11 minutes ago, 3 files, 12+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/aa6c97708628 21:36:37 koboldina: i also don't have a strong feeling with that 21:36:53 oh ok 21:37:18 man, i could have sworn i added a description of orb status 21:37:20 btw, is there any dev playing hellcrawl? 21:37:27 not i 21:37:30 anyone familiar with what this is doing in dgamelaunch-config? REVISION="$(git-do rev-parse HEAD | cut -c 1-10)" 21:37:30 (in update-crawl-trunk-build.sh) 21:37:34 not me either 21:37:43 PleasingFungus: i've used status help more than all other help combined 21:37:44 would be cool to have a dev-style review of the fork 21:37:45 it's supposed to get the version, but for dbro, it's getting an old one 21:37:50 speaking of cbl because I'm being forced to use it in this game, it feels extra extra dangerous to the caster ever since the relec nerf 21:38:00 PleasingFungus: I just wish it was more discoverable. In the bright future the help will be tooltips, of course 21:38:08 so even though I pull origin master and confirm I've got the latest, rebuilding is giving me a different one 21:38:19 PleasingFungus: did you see my comment on your interface question for ?/T 21:38:28 dpeg_: i did not! on the plan? 21:38:32 yes 21:38:35 ??0.20 plan 21:38:35 I don't have a page labeled 0.20_plan in my learndb. 21:38:37 ??dev plan 21:38:37 I don't have a page labeled dev_plan in my learndb. 21:38:40 ??development plan 21:38:40 I don't have a page labeled development_plan in my learndb. 21:38:42 ??plan 21:38:42 plan[1/1]: https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:planning:release_plans 21:38:42 i give up 21:38:44 feh 21:38:47 haha 21:38:53 KISS 21:38:59 but I can say it here: imo, ?/T should offer . (and perhaps also T) to list all current status effects 21:39:00 oh, i just noticed the general TODO 21:39:08 oh, . 21:39:13 could do that 21:39:16 like we do with Ctrl-F 21:39:17 %git 03dcb65de5 21:39:17 07dpeg02 * 0.20-a0-27-g03dcb65: Fix minmay_sewer_w. 10(55 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/03dcb65de53f 21:39:23 oooooh 21:39:31 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.20-a0-28-gcc13513: Remove an obscure poly special case 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 17-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/cc13513f7dd3 21:39:37 johnstein: is there a problem? 21:39:45 people were committing, so I thought I might as well 21:39:54 dpeg_: sorry, what does . do in ctrl-f? it doesn't seem to be a special case 21:40:03 lists content of current level 21:40:04 Damnit, obscure special cases are what make games fun 21:40:07 .. lists contents of all levels 21:40:08 dpeg_, it's just me forgetting that dbro is a hobbled install 21:40:10 johnstein, git pull --tags 21:40:12 I forgot to pull tags 21:40:14 yea 21:40:17 !learn addMerge Elf and Crypt !!!!! !!! !!!! !!! 21:40:17 it seems like ctrl-f enter does the same thing 21:40:18 I don't know about !learn addMerge. 21:40:19 hm 21:40:23 oops 21:40:25 oh, nevermind 21:40:27 huh 21:40:28 who knew 21:40:36 chequers: I'm not convinced about merge, I'm partial to roulette 21:40:37 somehow for cbro, that's not an issue 21:40:43 but I must have wired up dbro wrong 21:40:46 somehow 21:40:48 (b/C I think current Elf is mighty fine, I often do it just for fun) 21:40:51 ionce you've pulled them once, they are kept up to date 21:40:51 -!- fatkid has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:40:52 three-way roulette with crypt could be fun 21:41:04 geekosaur, yea. I should know this since I screw that up at work sometimes too 21:41:13 PleasingFungus: there is "interactive context-sensitive help" Ctrl-F ? :) 21:41:39 sorry, say again? 21:41:49 chequers: addition of the free-roaming dancing weapons and the elementals, plus the elf monster changes was Really Good imo 21:42:11 PleasingFungus: in the philosophy section, we boast about in-game help... Ctrl-F has such help, explaining in particular . and .. 21:42:47 * geekosaur finds that if he's going to track anything for more than occasional hacks, git pull --all is a good idea first time 21:42:56 it doesn't seem very interactive or context-sensitive 21:43:08 then it just works from that point on, tags, remote branches, whatever 21:43:18 of course not but we use the words, like it was an advertisement 21:43:42 !tell regret-index is this yours? could you put it on gdrive and share it? https://68.media.tumblr.com/6c4f9377fc2e2c6b2340d09e17beb7b3/tumblr_oey4rfdXaN1ufap85o1_1280.png 21:43:43 chequers: OK, I'll let regret-index know. 21:43:47 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 21:44:16 deep elf death priest <-- ban 4+ word names 21:44:45 this sounds like a piece of art 21:44:45 not as long as 21:44:45 deep elf master archer 21:44:47 geekosaur, sounds like the key part is pulling the new tags at least once 21:44:50 (I am glad this is English not German) 21:45:12 Dunkelelftodespriester 21:45:27 Dunkelelfmeisterbogenschuetze 21:45:28 yes, but then I want a remote branch at some point and ... 21:45:42 so just make it get the whole thing once and keep it up to date from that point on 21:45:52 dunk -> deep? 21:46:06 dunkel = dark 21:46:15 ahh 21:46:16 I am not sure if Tief = deep sounds so well in German 21:46:23 fair! 21:46:33 there's also the word Schwarzelf, literally "black elf" 21:46:34 bogenschuetze... 'bow shoot' -> archer? 21:46:37 yes! 21:46:40 sweet 21:46:43 deep elf sniper 21:46:57 -!- regret-index has joined ##crawl-dev 21:47:05 regret-index: sorry for flaking on you 21:47:12 connection's bad as always 21:47:42 I kind of think it was a mistake for demonspawn classes to not use the word "demonspawn"... 21:47:42 regret-index: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 21:48:02 what is the best way to import some other branch's floor colour/tile into a vault? 21:48:09 putrid demonspawn black sun 21:48:17 I said kind of! 21:48:25 PleasingFungus: plus allow permutations 21:48:29 look at what the orc/spider invasion vaults do? 21:48:41 ah, good call 21:48:48 chequers, I'll upload an updated mon-pick-data.h spreadsheetification after the tourney 21:48:50 Very Cold Bad Man, Very Scary Bad Man, Very Evil Bad Man, Very Sick Bad Man 21:48:58 regret-index: 👍 21:49:01 Bad Individual Of Unspecified Gender 21:49:16 which will also incidentally include the cryptelf thing because that's where I was doing it. 21:49:26 yes, *Bad Child is better for 'spawn' anyway 21:49:36 heh 21:49:38 offspring rather than child? 21:49:54 (since I'm shifting hells after the tourney, much to pf's chargin) 21:50:04 https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/5b/d3/fd/5bd3fd2e10eb55ea394ccc278278e1e4.png <- new demonspawn glyph 21:50:34 http://orig11.deviantart.net/ed14/f/2014/291/7/0/the_offspring_band_logo_by_staindfan-d83aqwe.png alternate option (minmay style?) 21:50:44 no elf ears 21:51:01 new monster: hell shifter 21:51:25 hmm 21:51:40 just noticed lorekeeper is a lot easier when there's two floors missing 21:51:47 *two floors of lair 21:52:26 @??red draconian shifter name:red_draconian_hellshifter n_rpl spells:dimensional_anchor.20.priest;call_down_damnation.20.priest;blink_range.20.priest 21:52:26 Unknown spell name: 'dimensional anchor' in 'dimensional_anchor.20.priest;call_down_damnation.20.priest;blink_range.20.priest' 21:52:44 kleh 21:52:51 @??red draconian shifter name:red_draconian_hellshifter n_rpl spells:dimension_anchor.20.priest;call_down_damnation.20.priest;blink_range.20.priest 21:52:51 red draconian hellshifter (11q) | Spd: 10 | HD: 16 | HP: 78-112 | AC/EV: 9/16 | Dam: 15 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, priest, evil, cold-blooded | Res: 06magic(40), 05fire | Vul: 08cleanse | XP: 1766 | Sp: dimension anchor [11!AM], call down damnation (3d15) [11!AM], blink range [11!AM] | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 21:53:04 !remove rCleanse 21:53:05 03chequers ⛐ 0.19-a0-2005-g26a81ba: Remove rCleanse 10(in the future, 1 files, 600+ 352-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/commit.png?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=26a81ba 21:53:19 when you shift into hell, hell shifts back into you... 21:53:39 chequers, do you also want me to actually finish writing up my assertions for cryptelf, or can that wait until after bosch / gauntlet / my starting of the great vault review 21:54:34 I was only really planning on outlining why, since I've already got a bloody large enough hump to cross over as stands regarding pushing hell-pan roulette forward 21:54:38 regret-index: don't do it on my behalf 21:54:48 noted. 21:54:49 %git ab0e3274d569d1cdea4010f4ed1d4b24cd3804e9 21:54:49 07jpeg02 * 0.6.0-a0-102-gab0e327: Apply r10031 to trunk. 10(7 years ago, 2 files, 67+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ab0e3274d569 21:55:02 I really like a lot of the crypt ending layouts 21:55:03 really dislike most of the elf ones 21:55:17 polymorphinh uniques keeping spells, 0.6-0.20 21:55:25 chequers: what?! 21:55:38 lasted longer than many temporary things 21:56:00 elf endings are boring, or perhaps just the tileset is 21:56:06 crypt has cool encompass layout 21:56:19 i think there are cool elfendings 21:56:28 hrm 21:56:36 perpetual luring problem, I guess, though the few elf ends that float instead of lean to a side are good 21:56:44 there's that one where you lure and split up the elfs 21:56:46 i did elf castle last time 21:57:21 chequers: I don't see how you can assess vault quality through tiles! 21:57:47 my plan for the both of those is to make shell subvaults for the floating elf ends, then take all the other elf end vaults, gently slightly nerf the elf residents, then slam them in as subvaults for the crypt encompass vaults 21:58:13 just outright replacing the climax. give cryptelf even more incentives by having 100k experience at the end. 21:58:54 KITEM: 1 = quad damage 21:59:16 I'm probably overly conservative here. Perhaps it'll end up well! 21:59:41 I am worried because I like playing Elf a lot more than playing Crypt, and I fear that the mix might change that to the worse. 22:00:15 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:00:41 I do not have enough faith in the project to actually want to do it myself. I just threw together http://pastie.org/10957248 when I was inspired weeks ago and that's nowhere near proposal stage of editing 22:01:51 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 22:03:18 -!- Dracunos is now known as dracadmin 22:04:04 -!- dracadmin is now known as Dracunos 22:06:38 interesting 22:09:23 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.20-a0-28-gcc13513 (34) 22:09:56 * regret-index shrugs. 22:10:00 chequers: this is certainly a personal matter, but I like the encompassing vaults a lot less, they feel quite scripted to me 22:10:19 death's head goes out of its way to randomize away from such 22:10:32 (this is why I made this tiny Crypt:$ vault to counteract bobbens' vaults :) 22:10:45 cryptofortress, quadcrypt, not so much, I suppose 22:11:38 regret-index: I always added randomisation back then 22:12:13 not smart enough or modern enough to last however many years those old crypt ends have been around, perhaps :P 22:12:42 otoh, I never had a problem with the static layout of Tomb 22:13:36 most of the endings for elf and crypt are mostly static IMO 22:13:50 -!- Taraiph has joined ##crawl-dev 22:13:57 but at least with the crypt ones like fortress, you move through the level. In elf endings, you stay in the entry hallway only 22:13:57 hi? 22:14:12 Taraiph: hallo 22:15:00 I was wondering how I could support the development of crawl 22:15:05 03dpeg02 07* 0.20-a0-29-g41cc41e: Add two flavour vaults to Pan. 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 37+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/41cc41e0000d 22:15:12 because despite my utter hatred of the game I love it a lot 22:15:16 Taraiph: in many ways... 22:15:25 elf.des has quite a few interesting ones re: entry hallways, really, but there are sooooo many old elf endings they're easily drowned out 22:15:45 making tiles, vaults, speech, bug fixes, coding patches 22:16:03 shit I have no coding ability 22:16:19 you only need coding ability for 1/6 of those things :) 22:16:20 the standard "tense, repetitive luring to a central hallway" has at least some token effort to be avoided in, say, noodle_elf_gasket 22:16:22 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 22:16:23 The build passed. (gift_notifications - 56c8bc5 #7095 : Nicholas Feinberg): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/173785542 22:16:23 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 22:16:44 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 22:16:52 alright then. 22:16:59 what's "speech"? 22:17:19 speech lines, for uniques 22:17:40 speech might be a bit of an outdated suggestion, I think 22:17:43 _hex, _curves, 22:17:46 and ghosts, and singing sword etc 22:18:02 chequers: why? I think that's an area where good content should always be added. 22:18:05 we could use entire dialogue rewrites for blandly bloodthirsty uniques :P 22:18:11 regret-index: i'll have to take you word for it, if I've played those endings I didn't even remember them in amongst the single tile corridors 22:18:21 I can try my hand at that regret 22:18:25 where do I start 22:18:31 * dpeg_ made a double tile corridor elf end 22:18:47 pick a small niche unique with boring lore and go wild! 22:18:49 perhaps an interim effort could be made just for revising entrances of elf end vaults 22:18:52 Urug or Blork 22:19:33 perhaps a better question would be HOW do I start 22:19:47 Taraiph: do you have access to the source? 22:19:48 !source dat 22:19:48 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat 22:20:19 Taraiph: you can submit modifications to this file: https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/database/monspeak.txt 22:20:38 you might be able to guess the syntax just by reading it 22:20:47 chequers: isn't there a header explaining it? 22:21:13 see monster_speech.txt in the 22:21:14 # docs/develop/ directory. 22:21:20 ah! 22:21:24 yeah, that's useful for learning all the @tags@ especially 22:21:25 dpeg: ...I'm not in the greatest of states at the moment, so I can't exactly think about what happens when you put enter_zot in pan, but probably "bad things". 22:21:42 hm, I tried it 22:22:02 probably all that happens is going back out of zot will take you to the depths entrance 22:22:13 -!- johlstei_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:22:42 -!- Tarara has joined ##crawl-dev 22:22:56 my talons will resculpt that clay in later days, I guess. 22:23:00 -!- regret-index has left ##crawl-dev 22:23:52 what the fuck was that 22:24:36 a dev 22:24:37 -!- Adeon_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:24:58 chequers: ah, didn't test that 22:25:29 -!- Zekka_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:25:29 -!- Taraiph has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:25:29 -!- xnavy has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:25:29 -!- Adeon has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:25:57 -!- johlstei has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:25:57 -!- jerkstore has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:26:31 -!- mong has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:26:48 -!- Tarara is now known as Taraiph 22:27:30 the devs speak in tongues 22:27:39 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 22:27:53 chequers: yes, this allows to go Pan --> Zot --> Depths, don't think there's a problem with that 22:28:01 it seems like shadows can't repost 22:28:17 bug or feature? 22:29:57 also, could someone check (just have a quick look) if I got this tiles stuff right? I cannot test it. 22:30:28 &L*dpeg_guardians_barracks 22:31:49 -!- charly_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:37:34 riposte? 22:37:39 what do you mean, shadows? 22:37:41 @ ebering 22:38:07 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 22:38:09 !nchoice 22:38:12 FeAK: 0 wins || ssteam: LLD, L9 Gouger of Lugonu 22:38:21 nice gouger, ssteam 22:46:01 wow we're going to have that around for a while 22:46:19 PleasingFungus: I am also XL 9! 22:47:44 oh geeze. you all added new gods and I don't know how to play crawl anymore 22:48:38 just cast Haste and you'll be ok 22:48:51 oh. wait nm 22:49:08 * johnstein hasn't played the new gods 22:49:09 ??Uskayaw 22:49:10 uskayaw[1/6]: God of ecstatic dance. Piety raises very quickly as you deal damage and drops very quickly over time. *: Stomp for AOE damage. **: Teleport through a line of creatures, confusing them. ***: on reaching this piety level, briefly paralyze all enemies in LOS. ****: On reaching this piety level, monsters share damage. *****: Telefrag any monster in LOS. 22:49:19 I'm hearing lots of good things though 22:49:26 bh: what is "new" for you? 22:49:40 PleasingFungus: Dithmenos shadow mimic 22:50:08 why should shadow mimic be able to riposte 22:50:45 because the shadow mimics *everything* 22:51:06 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 22:54:15 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:54:28 also because riposte is supposed to be just like a normal attack but weaker and the shadow mimics normal attacks 22:54:55 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:59:20 it's not an attack you initiate 22:59:29 it's not like a spell or a bumb 22:59:31 *bump 22:59:35 it's like minotaur horns 23:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:00:55 -!- Poncheis has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:03:14 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 23:04:54 -!- Lasty has quit [Client Quit] 23:08:20 hrm. I just got a crash message on save 23:08:29 it seemed to save, though 23:09:24 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.20-a0-29-g41cc41e (34) 23:09:37 i've seen that a lot lately 23:18:16 -!- fatkid has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:20:32 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 23:23:28 wait, does call merchant have a hunger cost 23:24:16 the a menu is pretty much disabled when you're starving 23:24:19 same as spellcasting 23:24:27 regardless of whether any given spell or ability has a hunger cost 23:24:47 lmao, some guy is saying that he cant call food merchant because he's starving. 23:24:54 that's wonderful 23:29:42 -!- anthems has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:29:56 gammafunk, I stumble across the finish line to deliver you a winstreak 23:30:02 nice 23:30:05 that was one of the hardest games I've played 23:30:11 an almost complete absence of loot 23:30:19 my last t I had a two-win nem streak as well 23:30:20 ended up having to repeatedly purple myself to scrape together stuff 23:30:22 starting from first game 23:30:43 I nearly died in lung with 3 orb guardians on me, 17 HP, and self-silenced 23:30:49 forgot to buff up before fighting 23:30:55 wow 23:30:58 !lm bcb 23:30:59 57. [2016-11-07 04:16:11] PleasingFungus the Jinx (L14 SpEn of Ru) killed Urug on turn 22902. (D:13) 23:31:05 we have a spen 23:31:10 excellent 23:31:16 what a sweet HuNe 23:31:37 two ru games 23:31:37 I fucked up my build really badly and tried to get freezing cloud online (unwisely) and wasted a lot of xp 23:31:38 that reminds me 23:31:47 have you ever seen a deep elf elementalist cast freezing cloud? 23:31:47 what is this, a Lasty convention? 23:31:54 yeah...I think? 23:31:55 I xv'd them and noticed it's in their spell list 23:31:55 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:31:59 but I don't think I've ever seen them cast it 23:32:01 @??deep elf elementalist 23:32:01 deep elf elementalist (04e) | Spd: 10 | HD: 14 | HP: 54-71 | AC/EV: 1/12 | Dam: 12 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(120) | XP: 1561 | Sp: freezing cloud (2d24), fireball (3d23), awaken earth (42d1), repel missiles, haste | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 23:32:09 they probably don't use it super a lot 23:32:12 all th eother elves 23:32:16 @??earth elemental 23:32:16 earth elemental (07E) | Spd: 6 | HD: 6 | HP: 34-53 | AC/EV: 14/4 | Dam: 40 | 11non-living, unbreathing | Res: 13magic(immune), 04fire+++, 12cold+++, 11elec+++, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | XP: 84 | Sz: Big | Int: brainless. 23:32:24 I think those are immune to fcloud 23:32:36 not sure though 23:32:36 11 weight to use fcloud 23:32:41 11 for al their spells except awaken earth which is 44 23:32:46 honestly seems not a great spell for them 23:32:55 cold, fire, earth, air 23:32:58 not sure what you'd replace it with 23:33:07 fridge is out because of all the other elves 23:33:10 probably bolt of cold would be reasonable 23:33:17 seems kind of boring 23:33:18 not exciting but they don't have a bolt spell 23:33:25 annihilators and mages and such already do it 23:33:31 bolt of cold? 23:33:34 mages maybe 23:33:37 annih don't I think 23:33:41 @??deep elf anihilator 23:33:41 unknown monster: "deep elf anihilator" 23:33:44 @??deep elf annihilator 23:33:44 deep elf annihilator (12e) | Spd: 10 | HD: 15 | HP: 51-81 | AC/EV: 1/12 | Dam: 12 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(120) | XP: 1259 | Sp: b.lightning (3d20), poison arrow (3d22), iron shot (3d28), crystal spear (3d34), blink | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 23:33:48 yeah they have light 23:33:50 -!- DevlanMud has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 23:33:53 knights have throw icicle, mages have bolt of cold 23:33:55 but mages probably do 23:34:14 I mean, the problem with elementalists is that only one of their spells is really notable 23:34:21 that's mostly a result of weights 23:34:29 no, I don't think so 23:34:43 oh I misread you 23:34:57 well awaken earth IS used very frequently, and it is the only spell that really stands out 23:35:08 yeah that spell is most of why they exist 23:35:10 but it does solve the killhole problem very nicely, so probably they're fine 23:35:31 many would contest that very nicely description, but they do a thing 23:35:41 monsters that don't do a thing often get removed 23:35:55 before elems, I'd frequently clear elf early via killhole and gather loot before going into S-branches 23:35:56 so everyone...please....DO A THING 23:36:20 of course, minocheis tend to make strategy skew weirdly 23:36:20 well you can still killhole effectively in elf, and there are some weird behaviours from that spell 23:36:51 deep elf shatterers 23:36:51 damn it, was I really the second hune 23:36:53 is what we need 23:36:56 I was the first when I started yesterday 23:37:09 but you have hs 23:37:18 not for long, with only 4 runes and a high turncount 23:37:28 man that game was grueling 23:37:44 Oh I disagree, unless you mean alltime 23:37:44 unlikely another hune will be won 23:37:46 in the t 23:37:52 but it is possible! 23:37:52 you think? 23:37:56 sure 23:37:57 ne is a pretty strong start 23:38:04 and hu is worth a lot of points and will remain so 23:38:17 ne isn't all that popular, hu is one of the less popular species 23:38:28 and only a fairly small fraction of people look at points 23:38:38 aw it only got two million 23:38:45 i can't get politician banner from beating that 23:38:52 I was able to take desu high score in a couple ts 23:38:54 without winning 23:39:30 it'd be neat to see though 23:39:30 hrm 23:39:42 !lg * t0.18 won s=char 23:39:47 I actually considered lear's hauberk that game because of a sheer lack of options 23:39:48 1361 games for * (t0.18 won): 85x MiFi, 85x MiBe, 53x GrFi, 36x HOFi, 31x HOGl, 26x DDFi, 25x GrBe, 20x TrMo, 19x MiGl, 18x FoFi, 16x DsGl, 15x GrGl, 14x SpEn, 13x VSMo, 13x DsFi, 13x GhMo, 12x MfGl, 11x GrEE, 10x GhAK, 10x DrTm, 9x CeNe, 9x KoMo, 9x DECj, 9x OgAE, 9x VpEn, 9x OgSu, 9x TeTm, 9x MiCj, 8x HEEn, 8x HOBe, 8x GhEE, 8x GrAM, 8x MfFE, 8x DDSu, 8x VSCj, 8x FoIE, 8x DsBe, 8x CeAr, 8x GrMo,... 23:39:51 but it's just not very good 23:39:58 it's essentially +9 chainmail and +2 all auxes 23:40:05 nice if you can find it early I guess 23:40:05 yeah, see all those people 23:40:07 winning mifi 23:40:14 people don't bother optimizing points for the most part 23:40:48 a lot of those repeats are nem choices, which is kind of score optimization in some ways 23:40:51 hrm 23:41:12 nice, OpWr and KoIE are cleared now 23:41:18 !nchoice 23:41:21 FeAK: 0 wins || ssteam: LLD, L10 Gouger of Lugonu 23:41:27 -!- kdrnic_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:41:40 !lg * t0.18 won s=char -graph 23:41:47 1361 games for * (t0.18 won): https://shalott.org/graphs/43e6bd1ec67b37fac0bacc2afbade8f99821e4da.html 23:41:53 !lg * t0.19 score>1000000 min=score 23:41:54 248. functor the Archmage (L27 DEFE of Vehumet), mangled by a Tzitzimitl (called by a doom hound) on Tar:6 on 2016-11-06 22:40:45, with 1051141 points after 140625 turns and 9:41:51. 23:42:03 time for an easy combo 23:42:24 good doom hound summon 23:42:38 140k is easily beatable 23:43:10 -!- eraservedd has quit [Client Quit] 23:43:12 the scoring makes it much more efficient to streak than it is to optimize scores 23:44:52 it's an extra 100 per streak (unless I misread the rules), whereas a Dg win right now is 235 points 23:45:19 though not breaking a streak does have long-term value, obviously 23:45:25 so you want to lean towards safer starts 23:47:44 the streak bonus is only as long as your longest streak 23:48:01 so if you lose a game it's best to move to a high-value race i think? 23:48:10 Doesnty: yes 23:48:38 !nchoice 23:48:42 FeAK: 0 wins || ssteam: LLD, L10 Gouger of Lugonu || LaularuKyrumo: CAO, L3 Sneak of Lugonu 23:48:43 dpeg_, what do you think of gozag's popularity? 23:48:54 this list misses my FeAK on CDO =) 23:48:57 !lg * t s=god 23:48:58 11318 games for * (t): 5768x, 1587x Trog, 658x Okawaru, 365x Lugonu, 280x Vehumet, 277x Makhleb, 241x Cheibriados, 223x Hepliaklqana, 210x Gozag, 204x Uskayaw, 199x Xom, 192x The Shining One, 159x Dithmenos, 142x Sif Muna, 140x Qazlal, 124x Ru, 115x Ashenzari, 89x Beogh, 69x Yredelemnul, 69x Kikubaaqudgha, 66x Nemelex Xobeh, 50x Zin, 42x Elyvilon, 32x Fedhas, 17x Jiyva 23:49:09 I'm a little surprised; I wasn't under the impression that the playerbase particularly liked gozag, but he's one of the more-won gods here in this t 23:49:11 -!- Judedude has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:49:12 Brannock: he seems to be a lot more popular than I thought... some people actually like Gozag 23:49:22 i find gozag really fun 23:49:24 inflated because he removes food imo 23:49:30 :b 23:49:37 it's a bit 'push your luck' style play, where you try to minimise potion petition so you can afford more shops 23:50:06 chequers: sure. But the first potion set is also an emergency option available right away. 23:50:24 seems like Gozag's shed the reputation G had back when he was first released and was very fiddly 23:50:25 Fedhas so unpopular... 23:50:29 speaking of fiddly 23:50:42 !kw nchoice-0.18 OgAE|GhEE|HuEn|FoIE|DDSu|DEAM|VpVM|KoMo|OpSk|MfFE|HEEn|MuEE|SpHu|TeTm|HaWz|CeNe|FeWr|CeAr|VSCj|FoVM|OgSu|GhAK|GrAM|KoCj|VpTm|MiCj|HaNe|SpFE|DEWn|TeEn|HOAE|TrSk|OpHu|DrAM|DEGl|HESu|MuAK 23:50:43 Defined keyword: nchoice-0.18 => OgAE|GhEE|HuEn|FoIE|DDSu|DEAM|VpVM|KoMo|OpSk|MfFE|HEEn|MuEE|SpHu|TeTm|HaWz|CeNe|FeWr|CeAr|VSCj|FoVM|OgSu|GhAK|GrAM|KoCj|VpTm|MiCj|HaNe|SpFE|DEWn|TeEn|HOAE|TrSk|OpHu|DrAM|DEGl|HESu|MuAK 23:51:00 !lg * t0.18 won !nchoice-0.18 s=char 23:51:07 1130 games for * (t0.18 won !nchoice-0.18): 85x MiFi, 85x MiBe, 53x GrFi, 36x HOFi, 31x HOGl, 26x DDFi, 25x GrBe, 20x TrMo, 19x MiGl, 18x FoFi, 16x DsGl, 15x GrGl, 14x SpEn, 13x VSMo, 13x DsFi, 13x GhMo, 12x MfGl, 11x GrEE, 10x DrTm, 9x DECj, 9x VpEn, 8x HOBe, 8x DsBe, 8x GrMo, 7x DDBe, 7x MiMo, 7x DrFE, 7x VSFi, 7x DsAK, 7x DsMo, 7x DEWz, 7x DDAr, 7x HaAs, 7x DEFE, 6x OgBe, 6x MfSk, 6x DsWn, 5x H... 23:51:10 !lg * t0.18 won !nchoice-0.18 s=char -graph 23:51:16 1130 games for * (t0.18 won !nchoice-0.18): https://shalott.org/graphs/3e3c3ddd5b533b1f9d0847f92279968dc8ca95ae.html 23:51:32 Brannock: yes, I'm happy about that. There's still things I'd like to change about G but they're not urgent, and I hope we'll get there indirectly. 23:52:06 !lg * t0.18 won !nchoice-0.18 s=char / ?: N>1 23:52:07 Broken query near '?: N>1' 23:52:26 exactly as many MiFi as MiBe winners 23:52:27 very neat 23:53:23 surprised that kiku is so low 23:53:35 or that Fedhas is below Ely 23:53:46 Lightli: Kikubaaqudgha always had a bad rep. 23:53:58 that's...like the exact opposite of what everyone says 23:53:59 spidersack webs are permanent now 23:54:01 this is odd 23:54:41 Chei so far up <3 <3 23:56:02 weren't they always?...or do they just not get destoryed somehow 23:58:29 Lightli, Kiku is one of these gods that gets approved of in tavern discussions because of consistency and power, but many people just seem to prefer playing with gods that more visibly increase player power 23:58:42 which is their right, of course 23:58:57 <|amethyst> %git 873440f 23:58:57 07andreas02 {MarvinPA} * 0.19-a0-697-g873440f: Player can no longer tear web trap on escape 10(5 months ago, 1 file, 14+ 10-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/873440fa0a05 23:59:03 <|amethyst> %git 8fa7b83 23:59:03 07MarvinPA02 * 0.19-a0-698-g8fa7b83: Don't let monsters destroy webs either 10(5 months ago, 3 files, 3+ 31-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8fa7b833c1c4