00:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00:19 -!- adelrune has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:00:40 the other thing that goes wrong is not on sierra, it's on 10.11/el cap with xcode 8 00:01:16 where you have to download the 10.11 xcode 7 command line tools and install them over the ones xcode 8 installed, because xcode 8 installs the 10.12 tools and they use a syscall not present on 10.11 00:01:21 "Gavin Higham Every time you install a point-release update of macOS, Apple's Clang compiler changes its header and library search paths to look in some internal folder inside the Xcode package. This means that, even though you can see your libraries and headers clear as day in /usr/local/, Clang won't find them. You have to run the esoteric "xcode-select --install" command to make it work... 00:01:23 ...again. Since Apple's point releases happen maybe yearly, there's just enough time for me to forget about this problem before experiencing it again." 00:01:41 (and, damn it, Apple released 8.1 and it did the same damn thing) 00:02:10 -!- G-Flex has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:02:45 bet that linux wanker hates freebsd too, for that matter 00:03:01 ??? 00:03:03 (official freebsd policy NO /usr/local IN DEFAULTS, PERIOD) 00:03:30 it's *linux* that came up with that, and linux idiots that wouldn't know a reproducible build from Adam that think it's a good idea 00:03:37 -!- G-Flex has joined ##crawl-dev 00:04:26 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:05:32 harsh 00:05:37 why yes, please do include all random stuff I might have installed from god knows where any time I try to build something known to work *in an Apple environment*. if it gets broken by an incompatible overriding package, clearly everyone's fault but mine for insisting that all my random installed crap be visible at all times 00:06:30 one man's bug is another man's feature. -- enrico dandolo 00:06:50 and the third man's support nightmare 00:06:57 ask homebrew support folks about that oen 00:08:01 I suspect at this point they're deeply regretting using /usr/local 00:08:05 oops 00:08:12 i wonder if a blind monster/unique would work 00:08:34 probably not 00:08:38 not because of this, but because people install random crap that *overwrites* homebrew installed stuff, and wonder why hb promptly broke 00:08:43 blind with olgreb's toxic radiance, disjunction... 00:08:53 tornado? 00:09:04 haha 00:09:20 ozo's fridge too, presumably 00:09:54 -!- DevlanMud has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:10:46 -!- nikheizen has quit [Quit: leaving] 00:10:48 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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Medea1221, XL19 GrEE, T:57107 (milestone): http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/Medea1221/crash-Medea1221-20161102-050029.txt 01:01:44 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 01:01:52 oh. v0.18? 01:02:27 -!- Dracunos has quit [] 01:05:53 0.18.1, they went downstairs and found a shop whose name is apparently invalid/NULL pointer 01:07:04 that's my favorite bookstore 01:07:46 and the vault list just shows "shop" 01:10:22 ok, that means nothing 01:11:51 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:12:08 !tell nicolae- I got your changing station shop on like zot:3, and the only usesful thing, a single bene mut, gave me a useless passove map mutation. I'm leaving a 2 out of 5 star Yelp review. 01:12:09 gammafunk: OK, I'll let nicolae- know. 01:12:22 good customer service, just a bad product 01:16:50 maybe passive mapping should be a one or two level mutation 01:17:10 Brannock: we're getting pretty close to t, have you been workign on tourney db stuff at all? 01:17:18 There's not much to do, but we deffo need to test 01:17:26 and I'm not sure if I've forgotten about anything 01:18:33 I need to upload banners and test, I think that's about it 01:19:33 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 01:20:31 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 01:20:43 -!- Codrus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:21:33 I'm going to add some of the servers with 0.19 01:21:41 to the crontab and the test script 01:21:46 -!- Cimanyd has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:21:53 &versions 0.19 01:22:00 CAO: 0.19.0, CBRO: 0.19.0, CDO: none, CJR: none, CPO: 0.19.0, CUE: none, CWZ: none, CXC: 0.19.0, LLD: none 01:22:38 %git stone_soup-0.19 01:22:38 07|amethyst02 * 0.19.0-1-g5985abe: Use correct zap info for meph targetter (10754). 10(10 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5985abecae6b 01:22:42 &versions vlong~~0.19-b|0.19.0 01:22:54 -!- hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:22:54 CAO: 0.19.0, CBRO: 0.19.0, CDO: 0.19-a0-1920-g83281cb, CJR: 0.19-a0-1920-g83281cb, CPO: 0.19.0, CUE: 0.19-a0-1920-g83281cb, CWZ: 0.19-b1-3-g7dea586, CXC: 0.19.0, LLD: 0.19-b1-5-gdc9fa9d 01:23:55 ok cue is there but isn't in sequell 01:24:00 -!- rchandra has left ##crawl-dev 01:24:57 https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/morgue/spooked.html 01:27:03 wat 01:27:04 looks like cjr's files are also up 01:31:48 gammafunk, I just added that spooky music to the cbro lobby! thanks for the idea! 01:31:58 oh no... 01:32:00 * johnstein adding it to cao's lobby too 01:32:30 this is not my fault 01:32:34 I did not want this future 01:33:54 -!- _Jordan_ has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 01:35:09 I've considered trying to spruce up the lobby though. it's pretty boring 01:35:47 FR: when you mouseover a name of a player in the lobby, tooltip/popup mini-version of the live game 01:36:11 it's 2016, I'm sure html5 can do that sort of stuff 01:36:27 sure, deffo possible to do stuff 01:36:38 someone just needs to write the js for it 01:49:21 well with the current implementation of the game display, probably not, since it's canvas 01:49:30 so AIUI you can't resize the display 01:50:32 <|amethyst> also, how long does it usually take to start watching a game? 01:50:56 <|amethyst> you'd have that much lag on mouseovers as your client connects to that game 01:51:30 <|amethyst> which could be asynchronous, so not necessarily lagging the whole lobby, but it's probably at least a second or two before the popup would appear 01:51:56 <|amethyst> I'm not sure why scaling would be a problem though 01:52:54 <|amethyst> it already rescales when you resize the window 01:53:45 <|amethyst> oh, err 01:53:57 <|amethyst> the tile animation settings still have problems 01:54:45 <|amethyst> I have tile_realtime_anim = true tile_water_anim = true tile_misc_anim = true and things like trees are changing their tiles 01:59:33 <|amethyst> hm 01:59:40 <|amethyst> tile_water_anim seems to be the problem 02:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:02:28 <|amethyst> if (base_bg >= dngn.DNGN_LAVA && base_bg < dngn.DNGN_ENTER_ZOT_CLOSED) 02:02:32 <|amethyst> return options.get("tile_water_anim"); 02:02:33 <|amethyst> I think that range is wrong 02:03:09 hah 02:03:19 I remember we talked about these options a while back 02:03:24 <|amethyst> particularly since those aren't even from the same enum 02:03:32 some of them seemed dubious 02:04:19 <|amethyst> I think that needs to be FLOOR_MAX instead of DNGN_ENTER_ZOT_CLOSED 02:05:20 <|amethyst> oh, hey, hotpatching that in fixed it 02:07:08 <|amethyst> oh 02:07:13 <|amethyst> %git 078e12a4 02:07:13 07|amethyst02 * 0.15-a0-1730-g078e12a: Don't animate stone walls etc. (edlothiol, #8740) 10(2 years, 4 months ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/078e12a44c75 02:07:23 <|amethyst> I already fixed that... just in local tiles, not webtiles 02:08:50 -!- Lasty has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:09:56 -!- AngelaSmythe has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:10:34 what do realtime animations do again? 02:10:44 <|amethyst> what it sounds like 02:11:04 <|amethyst> it makes animations (torches) happen even when you're sitting still and not taking actions 02:11:15 <|amethyst> s/torches/e.g. of &/ 02:11:38 I see 02:13:58 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 02:14:10 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. 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You can still get stat drained? 04:31:36 Then maybe I removed too much in my config file -.- 04:32:18 yes, just the sustain abilities effect was removed, not stat draining in general 04:33:16 brain worm, Norris, orange crystal statue etc. No problems anymore? 04:33:18 O.o 04:33:24 oh 04:33:27 right, not stat draining* 04:33:40 !lg * cikiller~~Spellbinder 2 -tv 04:33:42 2/4. Sientara, XL8 GrFi, T:4111 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 04:34:17 03Medar02 {GitHub} 07* 0.20-a0-13-gf589edf: Remove res_statdrain mention from docs. (Mattias) 10(5 seconds ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f589edfedb06 04:35:20 namnharef (L4 HEFE) (D:2) 04:35:20 ololoev (L1 DEFE) (D:2) 04:35:20 Goblin1989 (L2 DsWn) (D:1) 04:35:21 Soeti (L9 OpVM) (D:7) 04:35:22 horredgrones (L18 VSFi) (Shoals:3) 04:35:23 tsouns (L11 KoHu) (D:10) 04:35:27 Webtiles server restarted. 04:35:38 ??eksell 04:35:39 Eksell[1/1]: The {CXC} announcement bot, which uses | as a prefix. 04:35:55 just removing the (beta) from 0.19 04:36:00 Ugh, my git is broken somehow, all git projects... it won't detect changes in files O.o 04:36:45 that's actually impressive 04:41:24 labyrinth exit is supposed to generate near the center right? yesterday i watched a game where it had generated right next to the border of the lab. bug or just unlucky? 04:49:22 if the exit is supposed to be near the center thats news to me 04:49:54 -!- sneakyness has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 04:51:33 -!- Ge0ff has quit [Client Quit] 04:52:43 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 05:00:06 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:00:16 yeah youre right. i just checked dgn-labyrinth.cc and it picks a random point 05:09:33 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.20-a0-13-gf589edf (34) 05:15:32 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:17:03 -!- TuxQmob has joined ##crawl-dev 05:18:36 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 05:21:36 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 05:21:38 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 05:24:12 -!- tmass has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:35:13 -!- Mekire has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:45:39 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:46:26 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:02:17 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Quit: I like to rock] 06:08:02 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:08:56 -!- insecticide10 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:38:07 escu: yeah, exits can indeed be along the border of the map, and although it'll still have the metal->stone->rock radiating pattern, those can be harder to find 06:38:28 -!- Reverie has joined ##crawl-dev 06:39:11 -!- Reverie has left ##crawl-dev 06:41:36 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:42:26 -!- Ladykiller70 has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 06:43:47 it took them 6k turns to find the exit :/ 06:44:15 if you use good tactics, you can cut down that time 06:44:19 using dig and teleport 06:44:59 yea 06:45:07 but yeah most devs here aren't very happy with the state of labs 06:45:53 -!- insecticide10 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:46:43 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:50:34 /info 07:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:00:05 -!- pantaril has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:05:32 -!- Twinge has joined ##crawl-dev 07:06:18 -!- kdrnic has joined ##crawl-dev 07:16:12 -!- jefus- has joined ##crawl-dev 07:20:08 -!- jeefus has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 07:27:36 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:35:35 -!- Ringbingers has quit [] 07:36:02 -!- waat has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 07:37:48 -!- gressup has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:40:24 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:42:33 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:48:29 -!- crate has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:53:32 -!- Furril has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:54:56 -!- Zekka has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:57:59 -!- ig0rb1t has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:58:16 -!- ig0rbit has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:01:18 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:02:28 -!- waat has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:11:08 -!- Furril has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:12:22 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:13:02 -!- Patashu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 08:15:24 Screen gets flipped when I run the game 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10755 by conein 08:16:33 -!- kdrnic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:20:32 Screen gets flipped when I run the game 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10756 by conein 08:36:20 doesn't sound ideal 08:37:11 just need to start it 4 times 08:37:49 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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We're fine. We're all fine here now, thank you. How are you? 11:10:20 (stupid colloquy pasting formatting) 11:10:33 Haha no I didn't :) I'm not that crazy just yet 11:10:53 Yeah I added my ctags file by mistake... 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Older versions: Orc:4, Lair:4, Shoals:3, Slime:-5, Crypt:-3, Tomb:-10, Everything Else:0. 11:35:09 ambient noise[2/2]: Shoals and Desolation have +6 ambient noise; Slime, Crypt, and Tomb have -6. Older versions: Orc:4, Lair:4, Shoals:3, Slime:-5, Crypt:-3, Tomb:-10, Everything Else:0. 11:35:44 ??ambient noise 11:35:44 ambient noise[1/2]: An opaque mechanic - Every time a noise is made, reduces (if positive) or increases (if negative) the noise amount by anywhere from 0 to the value (rolling 3 times and taking the average). Noises travel further in tomb and not as far in shoals on average, for example. 11:35:55 heh, doesn't mention the stealth effects 11:41:44 Who is in charge of pixel art for tiles? It always felt very coherent and consistent to me, for a community project with so many contributors 11:42:02 Is it curated by someone? Or even always done by the same person? 11:45:50 nope and nope 11:46:16 ontoclasm is as close as you'll get for curation, but we've had a bunch of art contributors and no one with control over it 11:47:24 PleasingFungus: The next changelog line is missing * now 11:47:31 I see. I'd love an excuse to learn pixel art anyway 11:48:09 sure, contributions are welcome! 11:49:05 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.20-a0-15-g26ddc15: * (Medar) 10(69 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/26ddc1578821 11:52:09 -!- adibis has joined ##crawl-dev 11:54:21 rchandra, did your game ever sort itself out? I don't see a game by you running 11:56:46 johnstein: it's on cjr 11:58:09 ah ooops 11:58:28 sorry. I misread. good luck 11:58:34 thanks 12:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:00:35 I might be visiting your land, not sure if cbro or cao is my better backup 12:02:09 I thought we stopped generating consumables in stacks, e.g. "3 scrolls of identify". Is this bollocks, or did we revert such a change? 12:04:06 bollocks 12:04:12 sorry 12:04:16 iirc the change was to allow all types to come in stacks, so that if you found 3 stack it still might be acquirement 12:04:21 ya 12:05:31 -!- Morg0th has quit [Quit: leaving] 12:09:23 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.20-a0-15-g26ddc15 (34) 12:13:05 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 12:17:31 -!- rchandra has left ##crawl-dev 12:19:24 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:19:25 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:19:30 -!- TuxQmob has joined ##crawl-dev 12:19:31 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Changing host] 12:19:31 -!- TuxQmob has joined ##crawl-dev 12:20:21 -!- SteelNeuron has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:21:47 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 12:26:18 -!- adibis has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:33:02 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:33:02 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: 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https://vpscp.ramnode.com/graphs/__client/__5105/5105-load-cdc971dcb8f34978cea084092cb0348a5f15c14ede1da6ff76d52c2d8123fbc26156ea9c58c9a113212f224cee24629eaf10486d03c6411529c2f71b-31536000.png 13:03:09 going to be a rough first few days of the tourney I think. but should stabilize I hope 13:03:24 ^vps 13:03:24 CBRO disk usage=75% (135GB) | RAM usage=40% (4GB)| uptime/CPU= 13:03:24 up 719 days, 22:22, 3 users, load average: 1.70, 1.20, 0.93 (4 Cores) 13:04:51 -!- TuxQmoob has joined ##crawl-dev 13:04:51 -!- TuxQmoob has quit [Changing host] 13:04:51 -!- TuxQmoob has joined ##crawl-dev 13:04:52 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:06:27 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.20-a0-15-g26ddc15 (34) 13:10:01 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:10:02 -!- TuxQmoob has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:10:09 -!- Atomic_2yYCn has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:10:11 -!- TuxQmob has joined ##crawl-dev 13:10:11 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Changing host] 13:10:11 -!- TuxQmob has joined ##crawl-dev 13:11:57 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 13:15:20 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:15:20 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:15:27 -!- TuxQmob has joined ##crawl-dev 13:16:20 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 13:20:08 -!- SteelNeuron has joined ##crawl-dev 13:20:45 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:20:45 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:20:54 -!- TuxQmob has joined ##crawl-dev 13:22:25 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 13:26:05 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:26:06 -!- TuxQmoob has joined ##crawl-dev 13:27:51 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:33:03 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 13:37:08 Lua error in volcano 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10757 by jejorda2 13:41:58 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 13:44:38 -!- dwightdl has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:45:09 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:47:25 -!- Poncheis has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:51:22 -!- Kaishin_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:51:41 Guess I'll post this here as well. 13:51:42 https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=22032 13:51:51 Proposition to make charm buffs permanent. 13:59:24 Kaishin_: I am not a fan of permanent spell effects. 13:59:51 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 14:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:00:08 does anyone know what happened to https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/161963307517870080/243413384802992128/Untitled.png 14:00:27 rcfile? 14:00:53 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:01:16 Kaishin_: also I don't post on the forum anymore, so if you're curious about my opinion, you'd have to ask here. 14:01:43 isn't that what they just did? 14:02:06 PleasingFungus: possibly, I'd need a reply to know for sure :) 14:02:13 pf: do you know the rc option off the top of your head? 14:02:17 :p 14:02:24 CanOfWorms: i'd have to skim through options_guide 14:02:33 hmm, alright 14:02:35 I'll have a look myself 14:03:24 tile_layout_priority, possibly 14:04:11 -!- Odds has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:07:58 looks like that just separates the tab from the group 14:08:07 hm 14:08:14 do they have anything in their rcfile? 14:08:21 also, platform? version? 14:08:55 they just posted the screenshot and aren't responding right now 14:09:32 they said they downloaded the newest version of dcss so it's probably the 0.19 build 14:10:03 anyway I have to get going 14:10:08 I'll have to figure this out later :v 14:10:18 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 14:17:41 -!- Amnesiac has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:21:06 -!- SteelNeuron has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:23:21 New branch created: pull/388 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/388 14:23:21 03argonaut02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/388 * 0.20-a0-14-g2ab476d: Maxwell's thermic engine, a flaming and freezing sword. 10(16 minutes ago, 3 files, 54+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2ab476de06ff 14:23:42 someone rename argonaut to maxwell 14:26:21 -!- smee has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:28:58 dpeg: Sorry, I had to go do stuff. Back now. I would like your opinion. Why do you not like permabuffs? 14:29:59 -!- Kranix has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 14:30:21 -!- insecticide10 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:31:19 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 14:33:40 dpeg: Also my proposition cannot be put here so for you to see it you'd at least need to visit the forum post. 14:33:57 this margin is too small to contain it... 14:34:07 -!- SteelNeuron has joined ##crawl-dev 14:34:55 -!- koboldina has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:35:18 -!- Ge0ff_ has quit [Client Quit] 14:35:22 -!- Ge0ff has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 14:36:36 ^vps 14:36:36 CBRO disk usage=75% (135GB) | RAM usage=43% (4GB)| uptime/CPU= 14:36:35 up 719 days, 23:55, 5 users, load average: 2.32, 2.40, 2.20 (4 Cores) 14:38:16 -!- Atomic_2yYCn has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:50:10 -!- sneakyness has joined ##crawl-dev 14:50:36 -!- Atomic_2yYCn has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:50:50 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 14:53:39 -!- Odds has joined ##crawl-dev 14:57:33 -!- ddubois has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:02:59 people who are very upset about the loss of dg sustab baffle me 15:03:24 it's so small, and it's not even been around that long... it's not some Grand Old Crawl Tradition. 15:04:22 I've played a few Dg of late, and I had no idea :-) 15:04:30 sustab is just not a big deal 15:05:25 -!- epsilonhalbe has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:05:51 ya 15:05:54 people just hate removals... 15:07:00 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 15:07:48 -!- TrogBro has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:07:48 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:08:43 -!- Lasty has quit [Client Quit] 15:11:28 aaaaah this autoexplore code makes no damn sense. so many functions called in different places for really different reasons. 15:11:35 welcome... to crawlcode... 15:11:52 :-) 15:12:27 At least you guys have experience with the codebase :) I feel like I came out of a mushroom trip that lasted the past four weeks 15:12:43 hah... this is my first dive into it to 15:13:29 What are you working on? 15:13:57 Trying to improve autoexplore. First (easyish) change makes it safer and slower by exploring near downstairs. 15:14:05 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:14:17 I'm now trying to make it safer in other ways, like revealing only a few squares at a time 15:14:24 cool 15:14:51 I sometimes wish we had selectable algorithms for autoexplore. Hug the walls, minimize distance to upstairs, maximize area discovered... 15:14:57 But it would probably be quite complicated haha 15:15:09 so, I've got a version with a flag for exploring near upstairs 15:15:10 do you want to spend your time micromanaging that, as a player? 15:15:14 @ SteelNeuron 15:15:17 https://github.com/CrawlOdds/crawl/tree/explore_from_stairs 15:15:22 To be fair I probably wouldn't 15:15:25 haha 15:15:39 i personally want to spend as little time thinking about autoexplore in-game as possible 15:15:44 but yeah, I'd probably want it set to a "good" value and never think about, as a player 15:15:47 But if it's exposed to me in a friendly, non spoilery way, like "careful explore" or something 15:15:48 the whole reason i turn it on is so i don't have to micromanage exploration! 15:16:19 -!- Atomic_2yYCn has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:16:40 my thinking is that if you are autoexploring, you aren't playing for turncount. you probably care about winning. let's make it a bit safer. 15:16:44 Kaishin_: (had dinner with the family). Permanent effects should come from items, or gods, or mutations. Particularly spells are always about MP management, which is the opposite of permanent effects. (Note that spells like Alter Self got removed for this reason.) 15:16:51 (tbd if anyone agrees with me :-) ) 15:17:20 I wouldn't mind tweaking autoexplore, but it should not happen through options. 15:17:27 dpeg: there's definitely MP management in my suggestion 15:17:42 If a new algorithm is slower but safer, then we either take it wholesale or not. 15:17:56 https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=22032 15:18:03 just reposting 15:18:20 but long story short you lose an amount of max MP equal to twice the spell level so long as the buff is active. 15:18:44 consider searching tavern/elsewhere for the many, many times that has been suggested and rejected before 15:19:07 -!- THERetroGamerNY has quit [Quit: Be Blessed!] 15:19:34 Kaishin_: there's a recent-ish thread by Psieye on the topic, where I said a lot about it. 15:19:55 Something like this system could probably work, but I'm confident that it's not what we want our spells to look like. 15:20:05 dpeg: fair enough. I'm certainly not wedded to options; I bet no-one changes autoexplore options anyway. 15:20:17 Kaishin_: please don't be discouraged! we love to hear suggestions from players - it's just that charms reform in particular is very, very well-trodden ground. 15:20:33 that's fine, but I would urge you guys to read my proposal first 15:20:40 can't make informed decisions without knowing the facts 15:21:36 Kaishin_: I just read it 15:21:46 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 49.0.2/20161019084923]] 15:22:04 Kaishin_: please have a look at the Psieye thread. It is exactly about this topic :) 15:22:56 -!- Atomic_2yYCn has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:23:06 oh, that thing 15:23:29 I read a decent chunk of that topic and just assumed they hadn't thought of my idea. 15:24:52 Yeah, that happens :) I remember, years ago, proposing a god based on doors, thinking I was being super original 15:25:01 03PabloMansanet02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/387 * 0.20-a0-56-gc532f7c: Refactor weapon tier table, to make it more robust. If the weapon type enum is updated, this won't break horribly anymore 10(61 seconds ago, 1 file, 101+ 101-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c532f7c5a751 15:25:04 turned out there were like 4 door god suggestions already 15:26:53 SteelNeuron: it *is* a cool idea, tho : 15:26:55 :) 15:27:33 Yeah... Doors are everywhere! If it isn't a god, I'd love to see an unrandart that interacts with them somehow 15:28:47 Alright... I'm embarking in my first actual game (non wizard) with the council god. Wish me luck 15:30:43 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:33:08 -!- Atomic_2yYCn has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:33:53 SteelNeuron: good luck! 15:36:11 -!- dwightdl has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:37:51 well I haven't seen too many suggestions for permabuffs 15:38:16 I don't suppose there's any way this could get passed? 15:39:39 -!- ktgrey has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:40:29 -!- Atomic_2yYCn has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:42:16 -!- ktgrey has joined ##crawl-dev 15:45:27 -!- Atomic_2yYCn has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:47:25 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:50:29 -!- Atomic_2yYCn has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:50:52 Can't wait for you guys to try this... I'm having so much fun. It's ridiculously overpowered though 15:50:57 I need to tone it down 15:52:45 -!- DevlanMud has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:54:58 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:55:21 -!- jefus- is now known as jefus 15:55:32 that thermic engine fixedart looks neat 15:58:07 -!- lunahex has joined ##crawl-dev 15:58:19 -!- lunahex has quit [Client Quit] 15:59:46 -!- luna1 has joined ##crawl-dev 16:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:01:00 03PabloMansanet02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/387 * 0.20-a0-57-gf270792: Fix wielded weapon not updating after IJC swap 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f270792cac50 16:02:15 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 16:03:24 -!- nikheizen has joined ##crawl-dev 16:03:45 -!- Atomic_2yYCn has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:04:06 -!- _Jordan_ has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 16:04:18 -!- rainwizard has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:07:06 Hey before I start racking my brain here does anyone know why the web socket connection from web tiles might be closing after almost no time? Like 2 minutes. Otherwise it works fine and it's only when idle. The configuration has idle timeout set to like 50 minutes. Fwiw I have an nginx reverse proxy set to forward a subdomain to the correct place 16:08:39 NAT timeout somewhere 16:09:23 ...or NAT table overflow; the network I'm currently on (not under my control, sigh) overflows its NAT table within 5 seconds at peak times :/ 16:09:33 * geekosaur does IRC over cellmodem 16:09:55 That sounds like the opposite of fun 16:12:21 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:13:34 -!- Atomic_2yYCn has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:15:52 geekosaur: you use mosh, right? 16:16:00 -!- adibis has joined ##crawl-dev 16:16:09 no 16:16:28 do yourself a favor https://mosh.org/ 16:16:29 I just play offline, and if I need a stable outside connection I route it over the $$$ cellmodem :/ 16:16:48 the network here is ... well, the NAT timeout is the least of its problems 16:17:12 there's also the periodic 80%+ packet loss because the router is overloaded 16:17:17 and other such "fun" 16:17:43 that sounds exciting 16:17:48 -!- Kaishin_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:17:55 I've had better connectivity in the shadow of Mt. Everest. Where on earth are you? 16:18:04 -!- Menche has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:18:12 a cheap motel 16:18:18 'nuff said 16:18:49 also acceptable is "an embassy in London" 16:18:50 (even the good hotels generally have network that would embarrass anyone else...) 16:19:31 I'm in a hotel in South Carolina. The internet isn't great, but it's passable 16:21:34 03PabloMansanet02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/387 * 0.20-a0-58-g3955ba7: Fix a variety of bugs that happen when you attempt to grab a weapon from the air while your pack is full 10(3 minutes ago, 2 files, 11+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3955ba7c7b34 16:22:55 -!- Atomic_2yYCn has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:28:22 -!- Thraspic has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:29:06 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:31:53 -!- dwightdl has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 16:37:17 -!- mibert has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:38:33 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 16:39:19 -!- mittak has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.6] 16:43:29 -!- xnavy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:47:31 -!- Tboli has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:53:23 -!- HellTiger_NB has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:55:02 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 16:55:19 -!- Patashu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:57:34 03PabloMansanet02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/387 * 0.20-a0-58-ga1ce679: Fix a variety of bugs that happen when you attempt to grab a weapon from the air while your pack is full 10(39 minutes ago, 3 files, 16+ 7-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a1ce679e5f57 17:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:03:24 -!- gressup has quit [Client Quit] 17:07:34 -!- dwightdl has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 17:09:12 -!- Atomic_2yYCn has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:19:45 -!- _Jordan_ has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 17:26:48 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 17:28:35 -!- adibis has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:30:27 -!- Ge0ff has quit [Client Quit] 17:32:25 -!- ElanMorin has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.5] 17:35:05 -!- Thraspic has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:37:31 SteelNeuron: Recommend you make your commit titles (first line of message) no more than 72 chars 17:37:54 SteelNeuron: this helps your commit messages more readable and displayable 17:38:51 It's good to have a shortened title like that, and if you need to explain more, put it in the commit message body (make a new line after the first line (commit title) and have lines not longer than 74 chars each after that) 17:39:24 http://chris.beams.io/posts/git-commit/ 17:39:26 -!- Shinino has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:40:17 Gotcha, thanks :) 17:40:34 Will we be able to see the tournament overview before friday? 17:40:39 should be done tonight 17:40:43 so yes 17:40:45 Wonderful. 17:40:56 yeah I need to do some more things there 17:41:03 Will the scripts to check clans and what-not be active as well? 17:41:20 yep 17:41:21 -!- Kenran has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:41:38 also the tournment will run on VR 17:41:51 Yay, we finally have VR support! 17:42:05 yes, sponsored by Facebook 17:42:09 when you die in crawl VR, you die in real life... 17:42:11 the ultimate roguelike 17:42:12 dang 17:42:30 felid players discover they now have multiple lives irl 17:42:37 society is thrown into chaos 17:42:51 -!- jerkstore has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:44:49 yes, but they also lose a life when they stumble 17:46:06 -!- Cheibrodos has joined ##crawl-dev 17:46:44 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:46:47 -!- Atomic_2yYCn has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:48:25 Anyone know how to break lines when defining monster equipment? http://pastebin.com/Z4S3a01J 17:48:47 see: llines 6 and 7 17:48:49 -!- vev has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:49:10 does that not work? 17:54:08 03PabloMansanet02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/387 * 0.20-a0-59-g05c40d2: Fix Dragonfly view update bug 10(60 seconds ago, 2 files, 3+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/05c40d2106c8 17:56:14 It works, but its ugly as hell 17:57:02 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 18:00:02 I thought that was the git bot commenting. 18:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:00:55 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:01:05 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:02:05 -!- Cheibrodos has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:03:00 Haha yep, thought the same 18:05:19 you can just break it around 80 chars 18:05:37 you can indent it differently on the next line to show that it's not a new monster def 18:06:03 it should at least have the same indent as the start of your first line of the monster def 18:06:05 <|amethyst> IMO use Lua and put those repeated parts (the weapon defs) into string variables 18:06:19 <|amethyst> also, it's weird that you have exactly the same monster choice on Y and 3 18:06:20 yes 18:06:23 was going to say that next 18:06:44 wrt using lua 18:08:02 |amethyst: yeah, it is, but at the same time it's hard to use both MONS and KMONS sometimes 18:08:17 I'd probably just use all KMONS from 3 onwards 18:08:27 or maybe just all KMONS 18:09:02 the weird part is if you need a kmons for your 3 monster, I think that messes up the subsequent uses of MONS in terms of numbering 18:09:33 03PabloMansanet02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/387 * 0.20-a0-60-gbbbd854: Fix cross-trained skills not applying to pressure point striking 10(4 minutes ago, 5 files, 8+ 8-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/bbbd854b00c8 18:09:36 so that what you would want as your 4th MONS will now be 3rd if you move 3 to a KMONS 18:10:08 <|amethyst> In this particular case, I would consider doing something like: SUBST: Y = 3 as the last subst 18:10:14 <|amethyst> then removing the KMONS on Y 18:10:24 ah, yeah, if it can just be removed that's good 18:10:43 <|amethyst> likewise SUBST: U = 4 18:11:03 <|amethyst> the liches do need a KMONS since they're standing on an item 18:11:22 -!- Thraspic has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:11:25 cute vault idea 18:11:28 <|amethyst> oh, I see 18:11:42 <|amethyst> TU are like that because they have different tiles from 34 18:12:38 <|amethyst> hm, I wonder if FTILE works like KMASK or like KPROP in terms of whether it applies after all substitutions or in the middle 18:14:26 -!- Nino has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:15:11 gammafunk, I can't figure out how to upload the banners to the tourney server :\ 18:15:22 is there a specific command? 18:15:23 oh, you can use scp 18:15:30 you should have scp from msys2 18:15:39 or you can use a windows-based file copying prog 18:15:45 not sure what is most popular these days 18:15:50 syntax for scp is 18:16:06 I think I used a program when I had to move files into my school's CS servers, but I'd rather learn how to do it properly now 18:16:15 scp @dobrazupa.org: 18:16:44 where is what you want to copy, is the login on dobrazupa.org that we use, and after colon is the relative path from home dir 18:16:55 you can just ommit path, but you want the colon at least 18:16:59 it will end up in the home dir 18:17:11 but you can specify the full relative path to send it to the exact dir you want 18:17:19 Thank you 18:17:21 but that should work from your msys2 command line, yeah 18:17:28 do you use putty? 18:17:41 that has a file copy prog, doesn't it? or maybe not 18:18:17 putty is just a shell with text commands 18:18:18 ah, seems there's "pscp" for windows command line 18:18:45 Brannock: there's pscp from the same group that does putty 18:18:51 ah, nice 18:18:53 but if you're ok with using msys2, just use scp 18:18:55 I'll look into it after I finish up tournament stuff 18:18:56 yeah 18:19:24 and yeah there are nice graphical programs, all of which would support scp 18:20:10 you can also email it to |amethyst with a subject line of "Put these files on your server to increase sporulation ten-fold!" 18:20:14 he'd find that irresistable 18:20:21 haha 18:20:50 -!- removeelyvilon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:21:02 okay banners are go 18:21:12 I need to eat something badly to get my blood sugar back up then I can run the tests 18:21:26 yeah, before you do that though, let me do a couple updates 18:22:22 hrm, how do I trim leading whitespace in vim without an s// command, I wonder 18:23:44 <|amethyst> what's wrong with s if you want to substitute? 18:24:22 |amethyst: emacs had this nice command for it 18:24:35 <|amethyst> you could do 0d^ 18:24:36 remove all leading whitespace from given line 18:24:46 <|amethyst> or in the command line :%norm 0d^ 18:24:53 or maybe it was a general "reduce whitespace" command 18:25:02 it's been a while since I used emacs! 18:25:02 <|amethyst> << 18:25:07 <|amethyst> to remove one level of indent 18:25:12 yeah, I use that a lot 18:25:27 haven't heard of %norm, will check that out 18:25:37 I still have terrible vim-foo 18:25:43 <|amethyst> :norm just runs a normal-mode command from the command line 18:26:06 <|amethyst> so :%norm 0d^ means "go to each line (%) and act as though you pressed 0d^ in normal mode" 18:26:12 ah, neat 18:26:47 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 18:27:17 so that would break all active game streaks, but I don't think there are any good ones active at present 18:27:29 s/game/win/ 18:28:33 johnstein: is the 0.19 tournament team script something you could enable? 18:28:39 teams-0.19.sh 18:28:49 from http://crawl.akrasiac.org/cgi-bin/teams-0.19 18:29:33 hrm, the 0.18 one seems to take a long time to load 18:29:51 at http://crawl.akrasiac.org/cgi-bin/teams-0.18 18:30:10 -!- MakMorn has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:30:53 gammafunk, zzxc has a 33 win streak active and NicuTudor has 21 wins going 18:30:58 just looking at top 10 list on CAO 18:31:49 -!- Ququman has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:32:01 my message was carefully timed according to a certain person joining the channel 18:32:16 oh I have join notifications off, whoops 18:33:06 -!- smee has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:33:27 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 18:35:08 <|amethyst> btw, the most recent roguelike radio has interviews with zxc and Demise 18:35:19 <|amethyst> http://www.roguelikeradio.com/2016/10/episode-128-how-to-be-good-at-roguelikes.html 18:35:29 <|amethyst> s/interviews with/a panel including/ 18:36:19 -!- ig0rbit has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:37:32 good at roguelikes...I hope demise gives the tip "Don't watch my weapon tutorial video" LMAO 18:38:14