00:00:01 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00:06 kin will probably get to cdo soon 00:00:15 -!- AltReality has quit [Quit: Shame on us, doomed from the start, May God have mercy on our dirty little hearts. Shame on us, for what we've done, and all we ever were, just zeros and ones.] 00:00:28 !cmd &versions 00:00:29 Command: &versions => .echo $(join ", " (map (fn (src) (concat $src ": " (=version.query $src $*))) (serverlist))) 00:00:35 !fn serverlist 00:00:36 !fn serverlist () (list CAO CBRO CDO CPO CSZO CUE CWZ CXC LLD) 00:01:04 !fn serverlist () (list CAO CBRO CDO CJR CPO CUE CWZ CXC LLD) 00:01:04 Redefined function: !fn serverlist () (list CAO CBRO CDO CJR CPO CUE CWZ CXC LLD) (was: !fn serverlist () (list CAO CBRO CDO CPO CSZO CUE CWZ CXC LLD)) 00:01:06 &versions cv=0.19-a 00:01:12 CAO: 0.19-b1-4-gd8a0a2a, CBRO: 0.19-b1-4-gd8a0a2a, CDO: 0.19-a0-1937-g70ed36a, CJR: 0.19-a0-1782-g81ad427, CPO: 0.19-b1-3-g7dea586, CUE: 0.19-a0-1920-g83281cb, CWZ: 0.19-b1-3-g7dea586, CXC: 0.19-b1-4-gd8a0a2a, LLD: 0.19-b1-3-g7dea586 00:01:19 yeah, and cjr 00:02:05 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 00:02:21 oh, cue has 0.19 now 00:03:50 just not the latest yet 00:04:23 sequell doesn't have the logfiles for it yet 00:05:23 ah, yeah 00:05:49 hey guys, it worked perfectly 00:05:52 thanks for the help 00:06:32 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:06:50 !servertats 0.18 00:07:07 !serverstats 0.18 00:07:10 292175 games for * (0.18): 108490x cao [3555], 69240x cbro [2474], 40912x cue [1379], 37289x cxc [1106], 17164x cwz [692], 9116x cjr [417], 5463x cpo [341], 2642x lld [117], 1859x cdo [83] 00:07:34 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:08:39 -!- sneakyness has joined ##crawl-dev 00:11:10 welp, I still have no idea how to fix this 00:13:40 !fix hellcrawl 00:16:05 finally, I've found stair_info, my long search for data is over 00:16:12 hrm 00:16:30 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:16:47 seems like it might be wise to turn passages of golubria into actual features 00:17:03 maybe it doesn't matter, since traps are a type of feature already 00:17:25 actual features? 00:17:34 <3 PoG 00:22:53 -!- Yezarul has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:27:04 fucking gcc reeeeeee 00:33:05 -!- PsyMar has quit [Quit: witty quit message goes here] 00:47:29 gcc no re 00:49:52 -!- dxc has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:52:30 maybe I will remove the gcc compiler tests from travis, surely this is the best solution 00:56:51 gcc is just a natural antibiotic we use to stave off infection from harmful forks 00:58:36 lol 00:59:08 gammafunk comin in w/ the slam, but how's it gonna feel when we super slam your team in the crawl tourney 00:59:55 sorry but any team with minmay on it is surely more punishment than any victory can be worth 01:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:00:05 how much elf pictures do you want to get in PM? 01:00:08 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.20-a0-4-gd166d5d (34) 01:00:30 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:00:33 we actually haven't formed any teams yet 01:00:36 ??reserved_clan_names 01:00:36 reserved clan names[1/22]: Quiescent Sporulation [who do you think?] 01:00:40 ??reserved_clan_names[22 01:00:40 reserved clan names[22/22]: Beat Your Unavoidable Deaths Drum [gammafunk] 01:00:57 I really like this one as a basis but it need work I guess 01:01:07 Stable (0.19) branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.19-b1-5-gdc9fa9d 01:02:37 -!- arianwen has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 01:03:25 this reminds me, I should fix the nem choice pool 01:03:32 !nwon 22 28 01:03:39 !cmd !nwon 01:03:39 Command: !nwon => =nwon.nodefs ${1:-$(=nwon.n)} ${2:-12} 01:03:56 -!- DevlanMud has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:04:37 126 combos won at most 22 times: CeAE CeCj CeEE CeEn CeFE CeIE CeSu CeTm CeVM CeWz DDAE DDAK DDCj DDEn DDIE DDSk DDWz DEAK DEAr DECK DEGl DEHu DESk DETm DEWn DEWr DgSu DrAM FeAK FeNe FoAE FoCj FoEn FoFE FoIE FoNe FoSu FoTm FoWr FoWz GhAE GhAs GhBe GhCj GhEn GhSu GhVM GhWz GrEn GrNe HaAE HaEE HaEn HaFE HaIE HaSu HaVM HaWz HEAr HEEE HETm HEVM HOCj HOEE HOEn HOIE HOSu HOTm HOWz HuEn KoAE KoEE KoIE Ko... 01:04:39 elliptic: for the nem choice pool, you historically never did anything special to exclude previous nem choice chars? 01:05:02 elliptic: I saw some conditions for chars that haven't been won in a tournament in the various nchoice commands. 01:05:19 I guess I should make that a tell 01:05:41 !tell elliptic for the nem choice pool, you historically never did anything special to exclude previous nem choice chars? 01:05:41 gammafunk: OK, I'll let elliptic know. 01:05:50 !tell elliptic I saw some conditions for chars that haven't been won in a tournament in the various nchoice commands. 01:05:50 gammafunk: OK, I'll let elliptic know. 01:06:04 !nwon 21 28 01:06:38 I guess for most nem choice chars that get picked, they get enough wins in that t for them to be excluded 01:06:58 104 combos won at most 21 times: CeAE CeCj CeEE CeEn CeFE CeIE CeSu CeTm CeVM DDAE DDAK DDCj DDEn DDIE DDSk DDWz DEAK DEAr DECK DEGl DEHu DESk DETm DEWr DgSu FeAK FeNe FoAE FoCj FoEn FoFE FoIE FoNe FoSu FoTm FoWr FoWz GhAE GhAs GhCj GhEn GhSu GhVM GrEn GrNe HaAE HaEn HaFE HaSu HaVM HEEE HETm HEVM HOCj HOEE HOEn HOIE HOSu HOTm HOWz KoAE KoEE KoIE KoTm KoVM KoWz MfAE MfCj MfEE MiVM MuAK MuEn OgCj Og... 01:06:59 but some only get a couple wins; I guess you can argue it's fine to include them again in that case 01:07:35 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 01:08:35 hrm 01:10:43 -!- Ultraviolent4 has quit [Client Quit] 01:15:19 PleasingFungus, Gell's Lesser Beckoning? 01:15:44 -!- protopulse has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:15:54 do you remember what i said the last time you suggested that 01:16:00 oh I suggested this already 01:16:01 my mistake 01:16:09 also no I do not 01:17:12 no one remembers anything...memory is just an illusion 01:17:19 -!- Dracunos-m has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:18:32 i didn't hate it or anything, but i'd originally added the 'lesser' as an alternative to a caster name; not sure how much it adds to have both 01:18:50 seems like just more confusion, if 'gell's' becomes ambiguous 01:18:53 Lehudib's Spear 01:18:57 confusion? inconvenience? w/e 01:19:16 maybe if gell ever gets a wizlab 01:19:22 until then, probably easier to just leave it be 01:20:33 -!- aaaa has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:21:27 the right fix is to just make the spell be the wizard's full name 01:21:36 which is Gell "Lesser" Beckoning 01:26:50 -!- hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:30:34 -!- mong has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:34:41 -!- fearitself has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:39:53 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 01:41:25 -!- Menche has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:45:18 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 49.0.2/20161019084923]] 01:52:03 -!- Furril has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:52:55 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:53:57 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:00:50 -!- Roarke has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:03:52 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:05:05 -!- aditya has joined ##crawl-dev 02:13:01 FR: killer klown unique named shakes 02:13:23 patches... 02:13:49 heh 02:14:03 shakes the clown was a bad movie with bobcat goldthwait 02:14:16 that came out around the same time as killer klowns from outer space 02:19:19 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.20-a0-4-gd166d5d (34) 02:31:05 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:40:18 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 02:43:11 -!- aditya has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:43:31 -!- destrovel has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:51:29 -!- geekosaur has quit [Excess Flood] 02:52:33 -!- Brannock has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 02:53:46 -!- geekosaur has joined ##crawl-dev 02:56:12 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.20-a0-4-gd166d5d 02:57:17 -!- Walker_Z has joined ##crawl-dev 03:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:01:12 -!- Walker_Z is now known as WalkerBoh 03:01:41 -!- Idolo has quit [] 03:03:50 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:05:27 -!- Telnaior has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:05:36 -!- Telnaior_ is now known as Telnaior 03:06:29 -!- DDFi has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:11:44 Stable (0.19) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.19-b1-5-gdc9fa9d 03:14:40 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.20-a0-4-gd166d5d (34) 03:17:28 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:18:25 -!- Zxpr1jk has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:24:35 -!- ololoev has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:24:39 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:27:22 -!- ololoev has quit [Client Quit] 03:32:51 -!- Patashu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 03:34:29 -!- keszocze has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 03:35:12 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:36:05 -!- Zxpr1jk has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:36:05 -!- Bcadren has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:36:33 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:40:18 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 03:41:41 !lg * t0.18 s=name x=+sum(dur) 03:41:50 75764 games for * (t0.18): 60x Yermak [7d+21:07:02], 11x svendre [6d+11:42:25], 214x Kellhus [6d+2:11:23], 117x Enish [6d+0:44:20], 8x Nebukadnezar [5d+23:38:16], 153x Ultraviolent4 [5d+23:33:36], 151x LostInTranslocation [5d+20:00:01], 331x Fandango [5d+18:16:48], 137x Esekla [5d+13:39:24], 86x CALLOUS [5d+9:33:35], 204x spelunker [5d+8:15:47], 164x platinum [5d+4:49:22], 39x Rubinko [4d+20:03:32... 03:42:35 do the tourney scripts reward time investment too much? I actually can't think of a way that could be changed really... 03:43:28 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:43:47 it has been reduced already with diminishing returns 03:48:15 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Quit: I like to rock] 03:52:38 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.20-a0-4-gd166d5d 03:55:28 I don't think you could ever really eliminate the advantage of a player who can play as much as they want 03:55:53 the advantage is huge 03:56:03 !lg . t0.18 03:56:04 6. johnstein the Skirmisher (L9 DsGl of Okawaru), blasted by a gargoyle (stone arrow) on D:7 on 2016-05-21 08:37:18, with 3712 points after 9383 turns and 0:31:13. 03:56:07 well it's less than it used to be 03:56:12 !gamesby . t0.18 03:56:13 johnstein (t0.18) has played 6 games, between 2016-05-08 02:26:01 and 2016-05-21 08:37:18, won 0, high score 158680, total score 205913, total turns 90790, play-time/day 0:39:28, total time 9:12:36. 03:56:17 depending on how much of an advantage we mean 03:56:23 NINE WHOLE HOURS! 03:56:28 !gamesby . t0.17 03:56:28 johnstein (t0.17) has played 4 games, between 2015-11-07 04:19:32 and 2015-11-22 19:23:42, won 2 (50.0%), high score 2711103, total score 4475192, total turns 230480, play-time/day 1:53:36, total time 1d+6:17:49. 03:56:33 !gamesby . t0.16 03:56:34 johnstein (t0.16) has played 5 games, between 2015-03-13 20:29:46 and 2015-03-29 07:15:09, won 3 (60.0%), high score 2725450, total score 6736737, total turns 280566, play-time/day 2:09:24, total time 1d+12:39:54. 03:56:40 !gamesby . t0.15 03:56:40 johnstein (t0.15) has played 7 games, between 2014-08-30 23:59:22 and 2014-09-14 18:24:31, won 1 (14.3%), high score 1432695, total score 2176447, total turns 246644, play-time/day 1:53:05, total time 1d+6:09:21. 03:56:49 !gamesby . t0.14 03:56:50 johnstein (t0.14) has played 15 games, between 2014-04-12 01:00:59 and 2014-04-27 19:19:00, won 0, high score 488150, total score 903548, total turns 215330, play-time/day 1:39:16, total time 1d+2:28:26. 03:57:00 !gamesby . t0.13 03:57:01 johnstein (t0.13) has played 4 games, between 2013-10-12 03:33:20 and 2013-10-25 05:07:51, won 1 (25.0%), high score 2115770, total score 2117545, total turns 151312, play-time/day 1:41:51, total time 23:45:54. 03:57:04 would probably be better to do that with an s query, johnstein 03:57:08 yea 03:57:13 but it's 1am 03:57:19 heh 03:57:40 !lg johnstein t x=sum(dur) s=cv o=cv 03:57:40 No games for johnstein (t). 03:57:44 !lg johnstein tall x=sum(dur) s=cv o=cv 03:57:45 88 games for johnstein (tall): 6x 0.18 [9:12:36], 4x 0.17 [1d+6:17:49], 5x 0.16 [1d+12:39:54], 7x 0.15 [1d+6:09:21], 15x 0.14 [1d+2:28:26], 4x 0.13 [23:45:54], 24x 0.12 [1d+7:29:32], 23x 0.11 [1d+12:18:51] 03:57:51 not that hard to do it 03:57:51 ty! 03:58:09 I always forget about 'o=' 03:58:21 and didn't know about tall 03:58:40 tall is pretty handy to know 03:59:00 !lg devteamnp tall x=sum(dur) s=cv o=cv cv>=0.15 03:59:01 2322 games for devteamnp (tall cv>=0.15): 556x 0.18 [17d+1:57:33], 432x 0.17 [17d+19:39:31], 4x 0.17-a [0:59:47], 398x 0.16 [18d+1:10:11], 2x 0.16-a [0:27:21], 930x 0.15 [20d+5:59:35] 03:59:17 hrm 03:59:28 !lg admins tall x=sum(dur) s=cv o=cv 03:59:29 4682 games for admins (tall): 675x 0.18 [11d+16:41:28], 389x 0.17 [12d+1:55:32], 77x 0.17-a [4:42:57], 411x 0.16 [10d+13:42:50], 6x 0.16-a [5:44:25], 491x 0.15 [12d+18:48:57], 244x 0.14 [9d+12:51:36], 297x 0.13 [6d+2:25:26], 560x 0.12 [13d+5:58:01], 485x 0.11 [13d+11:04:15], 542x 0.10 [2d+23:11:24], 426x 0.9 [5d+0:22:28], 21x 0.8 [2d+11:31:01], 58x 0.7 [2d+0:36:24] 03:59:46 !lg devteamnp tall x=sum(dur) s=regexp_replace(cv, '-a', '') o=regexp_replace(cv, '-a', '') cv>=0.15 03:59:46 !lg admins tall x=sum(dur) s=cv o=cv cv>=0.15 03:59:47 2322 games for devteamnp (tall cv>=0.15): 556x 0.18 [17d+1:57:33], 436x 0.17 [17d+20:39:18], 400x 0.16 [18d+1:37:32], 930x 0.15 [20d+5:59:35] 03:59:48 2049 games for admins (tall cv>=0.15): 675x 0.18 [11d+16:41:28], 389x 0.17 [12d+1:55:32], 77x 0.17-a [4:42:57], 411x 0.16 [10d+13:42:50], 6x 0.16-a [5:44:25], 491x 0.15 [12d+18:48:57] 04:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:00:25 not all that different for devs going back to 0.15 04:02:02 !gamesby * tall x=sum(dur) s=cv o=cv 04:02:14 * (tall) has played 753819 games, between 2008-08-01 00:14:04 and 2016-05-22 19:59:52, won 9627 (1.3%), high score 74467661, total score 54401042678, total turns 4579240897, play-time/day 5d+11:58:08, total time 42y+352d+7:24:20. 04:02:26 !gamesby * !kids tall x=sum(dur) s=cv o=cv 04:02:26 No keyword 'kids' 04:18:47 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 04:42:34 -!- epsilonhalbe has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:43:17 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 04:48:02 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:02:22 -!- squidcat has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:02:23 !nwon 22 28 ce 05:02:27 !nwon 22 28 fo 05:02:33 !nwon 22 28 fe-- 05:02:35 10 combos (ce) won at most 22 times: CeAE CeCj CeEE CeEn CeFE CeIE CeSu CeTm CeVM CeWz 05:02:41 2 combos (fe--) won at most 22 times: FeAK FeNe 05:02:46 wow 05:02:48 10 combos (fo) won at most 22 times: FoAE FoCj FoEn FoFE FoIE FoNe FoSu FoTm FoWr FoWz 05:03:39 !nwon 22 28 mu 05:03:40 -!- MakMorn has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:03:48 3 combos (mu) won at most 22 times: MuAK MuAM MuEn 05:04:44 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 05:05:51 !nwon 22 28 su 05:05:58 8 combos (su) won at most 22 times: CeSu DgSu FoSu GhSu HaSu HOSu SpSu VSSu 05:06:32 !nwon 22 28 na 05:06:34 All combos (na) have been won at least 23 times! 05:06:38 wow 05:07:22 !nwon 22 28 og 05:07:30 3 combos (og) won at most 22 times: OgCj OgEE OgVM 05:08:43 -!- waat has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 05:12:20 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 05:16:58 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 05:17:19 -!- _Jordan_ has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 05:21:36 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:30:21 !help !nwon 05:30:22 No help for !nwon (you could add help with !learn add !help:!nwon ) 05:30:27 !help nwon 05:30:27 No help for !nwon (you could add help with !learn add !help:!nwon ) 05:31:08 What are the numbers supposed to be? min/max amount of times won? 05:32:57 second is an xl cutoff 05:33:10 set to 28 so we just see wins 05:33:30 I forget how that even works 05:33:54 !nwon 23 29 !tall 05:34:04 er 05:34:06 w/e 05:35:24 90s limit exceeded: killed !nwon 23 29 !tall 06:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:11:44 -!- Jafet has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:29:12 -!- insecticide9 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:34:05 -!- Ge0ff has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:40:10 -!- Jafet has joined ##crawl-dev 07:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:07:34 -!- mibe_ is now known as mibe 07:11:45 -!- bgiannan has joined ##crawl-dev 07:12:16 -!- bgiannan_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:23:23 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 07:24:27 -!- eb_ has quit [] 07:35:32 -!- PsyMar has quit [Client Quit] 07:36:50 -!- ees has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:42:04 -!- kdrnic has joined ##crawl-dev 07:47:59 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 07:57:55 -!- Telnaior has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:00:15 -!- Patashu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 08:00:15 -!- desolator has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:16:59 gammafunk: if you mean something to prevent the same combo from being chosen in nchoice two tourneys in a row then no, I never did anything special to stop that 08:17:17 yeah, ok 08:17:27 gammafunk: the code you are seeing is probably just the code to prevent it from picking an nchoice that has already been won in the current tourney? 08:17:38 ah, that would make sense 08:17:53 !nwon 23 28 sp 08:17:56 also new !nwon tech 08:18:00 8 combos (sp) won at most 23 times: SpAE SpAK SpAM SpIE SpMo SpNe SpSu SpTm 08:18:07 probably poorly done but it works 08:18:34 !nwon 23 28 mu 08:18:43 3 combos (mu) won at most 23 times: MuAK MuAM MuEn 08:18:51 needs more Mu 08:18:59 !nwon 23 28 ds 08:19:01 All combos (ds) have been won at least 24 times! 08:19:17 gammafunk: good addition to the command 08:19:35 !nwon 23 28 am 08:19:42 8 combos (am) won at most 23 times: DDAM DrAM MuAM OpAM SpAM TeAM VpAM VSAM 08:20:04 !nwon 10 28 08:20:12 5 combos won at most 10 times: CeIE DDAE FoNe GhSu TeEn 08:20:31 !nwon 9 28 08:20:39 4 combos won at most 9 times: CeIE DDAE FoNe TeEn 08:20:56 it's proof of the popularity of Su 08:21:15 -!- Odds has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:21:22 what are the nemelex choice requirements? 08:21:37 well they're probably going to be nwon 22 this time 08:22:00 I need to re-make the set stored on dobrazupa because I tried to do the command manually 08:22:27 gammafunk: but yeah, if you want to manually remove combos that were nchoices last tourney that sounds reasonable 08:22:30 !kw nchoice 08:22:31 Keyword: nchoice => OgAE|GhEE|huen|FoIE|DDSu|DEAM|VpVM|KoMo|OpSk|MfFE|HEEn|MuEE|sphu|TeTm|HaWz|CeNe|FeWr|CeAr|VSCj|FoVM|OgSu|GhAK|GrAM|KoCj|VpTm|MiCj|HaNe|SpFE|DEWn|TeEn|HOAE|TrSk|ophu|DrAM|DEGl|HESu|MuAK 08:22:44 !nwon 22 28 !nchoice 08:22:44 yeah, it wouldn't be too hard to do 08:22:51 right, can do with the command even 08:23:02 yeah, since we still have the kw for last tourney's nchoices 08:23:45 well, assuming that this command doesn't just time out 08:24:02 117 combos (!nchoice) won at most 22 times: CeAE CeCj CeEE CeEn CeFE CeIE CeSu CeTm CeVM CeWz DDAE DDAK DDCj DDEn DDIE DDSk DDWz DEAK DEAr DECK DEHu DESk DETm DEWr DgSu FeAK FeNe FoAE FoCj FoEn FoFE FoNe FoSu FoTm FoWr FoWz GhAE GhAs GhBe GhCj GhEn GhSu GhVM GhWz GrEn GrNe HaAE HaEE HaEn HaFE HaIE HaSu HaVM HEAr HEEE HETm HEVM HOCj HOEE HOEn HOIE HOSu HOTm HOWz KoAE KoEE KoIE KoTm KoVM KoWr KoWz M... 08:24:07 there's also the tragedy of denying HESu for nem choice to consider 08:24:18 I never worried about this in the past because it happened automatically almost all the time 08:24:33 -!- XVar has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:24:37 because there was a smaller range of how many times combos had been won 08:24:47 yeah, most choices will self-remove since they'll get won as a result of the choice 08:24:53 but some won't 08:25:08 now that there are some that have been won 9 times and some that have been won 22 times, yeah 08:46:04 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 08:49:12 -!- XVar has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:49:31 !lg !bot t0.18 x=cdist(name) / nchoice 08:49:46 6705/75430 games for bot (t0.18): cdist(name)=459/2813 (16.32%) 08:52:51 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:53:20 -!- Kenran has joined ##crawl-dev 08:56:17 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:57:11 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 09:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:01:06 !lg !bot t0.18 !boring x=cdist(name) / nchoice 09:01:21 6027/68718 games for bot (t0.18 !boring): cdist(name)=431/2759 (15.62%) 09:01:28 -!- Tungsten has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:03:35 !lm !bot t0.18 !boring x=cdist(name) br.enter / noun=swamp|snake|spider|shoals|vaults|slime|abyss|tomb|geh|coc|tar|dis|pan 09:04:35 Stable (0.19) branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.19-b1-5-gdc9fa9d 09:05:06 90s limit exceeded: killed !lm !bot t0.18 !boring x=cdist(name) br.enter / noun=swamp|snake|spider|shoals|vaults|slime|abyss|tomb|geh|coc|tar|dis|pan 09:09:11 -!- Kenran has quit [Quit: leaving] 09:27:08 !lg !bot t0.18 !boring x=cdist(name) / nchoice 09:27:19 !lm !bot t0.18 !boring x=cdist(name) br.enter / noun=swamp|snake|spider|shoals|vaults|slime|abyss|tomb|geh|coc|tar|dis|pan 09:27:52 6027/68718 games for bot (t0.18 !boring): cdist(name)=431/2759 (15.62%) 09:27:54 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:28:50 90s limit exceeded: killed !lm !bot t0.18 !boring x=cdist(name) br.enter / noun=swamp|snake|spider|shoals|vaults|slime|abyss|tomb|geh|coc|tar|dis|pan 09:32:03 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 09:33:46 -!- bannakaffalatta has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 09:35:49 -!- Dracunos-m has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:42:54 !lm !bot t0.18 !boring x=cdist(name) br.enter / lg:urune>=1 09:43:37 !lg !bot t0.18 !boring x=cdist(name) / urune>=1 09:43:42 41473/76189 milestones for bot (t0.18 !boring br.enter): cdist(name)=974/2052 (47.47%) 09:44:09 3251/68718 games for bot (t0.18 !boring): cdist(name)=909/2759 (32.95%) 09:55:41 -!- Dracunos has joined ##crawl-dev 10:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:00:03 -!- Dracunos7 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:06:40 -!- Dracunos-m has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 10:07:53 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:21:12 -!- FiftyNine12837 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:23:06 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:32:58 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:34:16 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 10:39:08 -!- Patashu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:39:37 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 10:47:48 -!- nikheizen has joined ##crawl-dev 11:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:16:19 -!- desolator has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:22:55 -!- Ge0ff has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:24:47 -!- Bammboo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:27:27 -!- Nattefrost1 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 11:32:44 -!- Brannock has joined ##crawl-dev 11:37:02 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 11:42:33 -!- oooos has quit [Client Quit] 11:45:38 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:46:39 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 11:48:19 -!- Keskitalo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:52:36 -!- DevlanMud has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:53:54 Since when do we have date-dependent welcome messages? Feels like Nethack :) 11:54:04 haha 11:54:07 glad you're enjoying! 11:54:57 I guess it's a good test for survey announcements =) 11:55:38 i think putting survey announcements in the welcome message would be... a little excessive 11:55:53 plan was to put them up on the servers + at the top of the main menu in local versions 11:56:11 ah, fine as well 11:56:26 in any case, they should disappear after some time (how long: one months, two, six?) 11:56:50 proper greeting: "Citizen, did you take part in the survey? Poll or death!" 11:57:44 i was leaning toward one release 11:57:48 so six months or so 12:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:07:27 sounds good 12:09:47 -!- kdrnic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:10:18 -!- eb_mobile has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:11:41 -!- destrovel has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:15:53 -!- edgefigaro has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:33:44 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 12:34:27 -!- aditya has joined ##crawl-dev 12:36:08 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:39:41 -!- manman has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:48:08 -!- aditya has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:49:38 -!- protopulse has joined ##crawl-dev 12:54:08 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 13:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:01:52 Stable (0.19) branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.19-b1-5-gdc9fa9d 13:03:05 -!- eb_mobile has joined ##crawl-dev 13:05:01 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:06:21 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.20-a0-4-gd166d5d (34) 13:07:22 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 13:07:47 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 13:10:35 o my... 13:10:37 i think i broke crawl 13:10:38 http://imgur.com/a/cAmI2 13:10:52 oh 13:10:54 rebuild again 13:11:07 yea 13:11:07 sometimes the tiles get messed up and require another rebuild. old bug 13:11:16 those are all plants btw 13:11:17 haha 13:11:21 ok ill give it another shot 13:13:06 -!- LexAckson_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:13:22 yep fixed 13:13:29 pretty amusing bug 13:15:40 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:16:26 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:21:16 -!- Taraiph has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:25:00 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:26:17 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 13:26:41 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:34:30 -!- dxc has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:38:09 -!- murtidash has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:41:18 -!- Bammboo has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:43:46 -!- protopulse has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:53:04 -!- protopulse has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:53:38 -!- protopulse has joined ##crawl-dev 13:55:27 -!- Yermak has joined ##crawl-dev 14:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:03:42 -!- bollsw_ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:05:47 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 14:05:56 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:07:05 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:08:34 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 14:10:06 -!- manman has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:13:57 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 14:16:42 -!- LexAckson__ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:17:23 -!- tsetse has quit [Client Quit] 14:20:36 -!- LexAckson_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:21:29 -!- Dracunos7 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:22:11 -!- nikitamog has joined ##crawl-dev 14:34:00 -!- epsilonhalbe has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:34:49 -!- helpme has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:36:46 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 14:40:52 -!- temp has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:41:14 -!- epsilonhalbe1 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:41:30 -!- insecticide9 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:58:49 -!- FunkyBomb has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:13:08 You start eating one of the 5 chunks of flesh. _You stop eating. You start eating one of the 5 chunks of flesh. _You stop eating. You start eating one of the 5 chunks of flesh. _You stop eating. 15:13:16 nice 15:13:27 i wonder how that happened 15:13:28 Game allows you to try to eat chunks while not hungry 15:13:35 hrm 15:13:41 Also turns pass 15:14:03 do you think it could be a bug? 15:14:10 i don't want to leap to conclusions, here. 15:14:18 It's definitely undesirable thing. 15:14:23 i'm kidding, it's a bug 15:14:30 this is the latest trunk? 15:14:42 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:14:58 0.19 15:15:01 beta 15:17:18 no real diff between em right now anyway 15:17:53 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:18:13 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 15:18:51 trivial to repro 15:18:54 good 15:21:26 is this an alright place to report a bug? 15:22:34 if you'd like, though mantis is also good 15:22:36 ??mantis 15:22:36 mantis[1/2]: To report bugs or submit new content like vaults, patches or tiles, go to: http://crawl.develz.org/mantis/main_page.php 15:22:47 ^ more likely to get fixed eventually, rather than just getting forgotten 15:22:51 not many people in the channel right now 15:23:24 ok ill try mantis if that's a better spot 15:23:40 hthanks 15:24:01 lemme know if you have any issues, though there shouldn't be 15:24:15 sure! 15:25:05 i remember having the issue "jeez, i don't want to make a mantis account" 15:26:34 haha yeah that's why i came here first, no big deal though 15:26:42 but you get access to so many valuable services, like the tavern! 15:26:50 who wouldn't want to post on tavern 15:27:02 2 for one! what a deal 15:27:35 btw is the trunk version on wordpress up to date? that's where i found the bug 15:28:03 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:28:37 -!- dtsund has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:28:49 -!- jefus- is now known as jefus 15:29:25 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:30:16 -!- eb_mobile has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:31:32 bollsw_: if you hit ?V, what's at the top? 15:31:42 in-game 15:32:02 0.19-a0-1937-g70ed36a 15:32:05 -!- eb_mobile has joined ##crawl-dev 15:32:46 %git 15:32:46 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.20-a0-4-gd166d5d: Fix unique hide inscriptions 10(22 hours ago, 1 file, 5+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d166d5d69897 15:32:50 hrm 15:32:56 %git stone_soup-0.19 15:32:56 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.19-b1-5-gdc9fa9d: Fix unique hide inscriptions 10(22 hours ago, 1 file, 5+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/dc9fa9dd2045 15:33:06 %git 70ed36a 15:33:06 07wheals02 * 0.19-b1: For trunk, make webtiles mouse control on by default. 10(6 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/70ed36aeb254 15:33:14 Should Trog worshippers be able to burn books through glass walls? Right now they're able and you don't even see the clouds because of the cloud change, books just disappear. 15:33:15 yeah, that's up to date 15:33:21 Yermak: bug! 15:33:53 ok cool, ill report it on mantis then. Thanks PF! 15:34:04 np. ty for reporting! 15:38:03 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 15:39:24 oh, good bug 15:39:31 hrm 15:40:19 haha yeah i don't think most use hexes with hep 15:40:25 or at least not discord 15:40:38 *most people 15:41:04 Quick question: how do I fix a given crawl version not getting rc-files for users logging in through webtiles 15:41:05 ? 15:41:59 Broken interactions with Hep ancestor and Discord spell 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10753 by bollsw 15:45:47 in future, i would like people to report all bugs at least one week before release. 15:46:52 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.20-a0-5-g34c0f31: Don't waste time failing to eat chunks (Yermak) 10(30 seconds ago, 1 file, 4+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/34c0f31769ba 15:47:41 -!- Kranix has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:48:04 sorry, wish I'd noticed it sooner 15:48:55 i'm kidding 15:48:59 not your fault! 15:49:02 just inconvenient 15:49:09 better than noticing tomorrow :P 15:49:12 -!- Kenran has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:50:21 haha yeah 15:50:35 hope it doesnt screw up the release 15:50:46 i'm sure it will. 15:50:54 but we've had worse 15:51:04 last release had a hotfix released like day of 15:51:20 can't be as bad as double damage 15:52:08 i missed that one, heard it was pretty epic though 15:52:17 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:52:38 https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2016/10/31/the-50-best-free-games-on-pc/27/ 15:52:46 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:52:56 27 of 52 15:53:19 does that link work? painstakingly typed by my own hands 15:53:33 ya 15:53:35 impressive! 15:53:43 would be nice if it mentioned that there's been development *since* 2003... 15:53:57 worth to mention on the blog? 15:53:59 -!- LexAckson_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:54:03 how rad we are? 15:54:24 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.20-a0-6-g5cb335a: Don't let trog burn books through glass (Yermak) 10(38 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5cb335a700f2 15:54:31 official 6 less rad than brogue 15:54:35 officially* 15:54:42 harsh, but fair 15:54:46 MarvinPA: I can get behind that 15:55:24 PleasingFungus: and with Linley's Crawl in development for 20 years? 15:56:05 rps needs to make an actual list that doesn't require 50 clicks... 15:57:36 -!- LexAckson__ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:57:55 CanOfWorms: ad impressions, my friend 15:58:28 sadly 15:58:53 then again, that's the strategy that clickbait sites use 15:59:37 !tell |amethyst Do you remember how to solve the issue of webtiles users not getting rc-files? 15:59:37 TZer0: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 16:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:04:53 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.20-a0-7-g11bd45b: Fix slime creature MHP display (Tux) 10(18 seconds ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/11bd45b90a41 16:05:40 TZer0: you edited init-webtiles 16:05:41 ? 16:05:47 Ah, right 16:05:49 Hold on 16:05:53 thanks 16:06:41 -!- nikheizen has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:06:49 Thanks! 16:07:17 !tell |amethyst nevermind, fixed! 16:07:18 TZer0: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 16:09:25 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.20-a0-6-g5cb335a (34) 16:10:13 -!- Kranix has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:19:21 -!- DevlanMud has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:19:46 -!- eb_mobile has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:20:45 -!- eb_mobile has joined ##crawl-dev 16:21:55 -!- aditya has joined ##crawl-dev 16:22:42 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.20-a0-8-g0e8e6b5: Fix discord/hep ancestor interaction (10753) 10(65 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0e8e6b5e25fb 16:23:14 03PleasingFungus02 07[stone_soup-0.19] * 0.19-b1-6-g3dbd641: Don't waste time failing to eat chunks (Yermak) 10(37 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3dbd641433f0 16:23:14 03PleasingFungus02 07[stone_soup-0.19] * 0.19-b1-7-g9061514: Don't let trog burn books through glass (Yermak) 10(29 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9061514c872c 16:23:14 03PleasingFungus02 07[stone_soup-0.19] * 0.19-b1-8-g38723a6: Fix slime creature MHP display (Tux) 10(19 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/38723a6cf4d6 16:23:16 -!- Kranix has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:28:07 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 49.0.2/20161019084923]] 16:31:48 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 16:34:00 -!- eb_mobile has quit [Quit: I quit] 16:34:22 -!- eb_mobile has joined ##crawl-dev 16:35:54 -!- LexAckson_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:39:30 -!- eb_mobile has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 16:39:40 -!- eb_mobile has joined ##crawl-dev 16:40:33 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 16:40:34 The build has errored. (master - 34c0f31 #7051 : Nicholas Feinberg): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/172095044 16:40:34 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 16:40:36 man, we lost to candy box 16:40:49 well, back to the drawing board, as Pakellas says 16:41:22 I guess losing to QWOP is maybe something to maybe be more concerned about 16:44:09 Think we're ready to tag 0.19.0? 16:44:53 Are you a bad enough dude to tag 0.19.0? 16:45:17 I never did merge that chequers pr 16:45:24 From a certain point of view 16:45:28 let me go do the non-contraversial part of that really quick 16:45:38 which PR? 16:47:01 -!- eb_mobile has quit [Quit: I quit] 16:47:22 -!- eb_mobile has joined ##crawl-dev 16:47:48 374 16:47:54 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 16:48:31 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 16:49:15 should just take me a min. 16:51:18 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:52:28 -!- THERetroGamerNY has quit [Quit: Be Blessed!] 16:52:51 -!- hbibi has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:55:32 -!- Patashu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 16:56:40 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 17:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:00:56 actually, there are still a few issues with this PR 17:01:05 I can commit this to trunk instead after I clean it up 17:01:09 -!- protopulse has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:01:25 Okay, I'll start compiling 0.19 for sanity testing 17:02:18 yeah, the instructions in the guide should be fine to follow after you've done that 17:02:43 oh, and I guess any final changelog stuff 17:02:51 -!- Zxpr1jk has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:03:54 I don't think changelog has anything that needs to be changed. The release date is already set, and the minor bugfixes PF has been doing don't seem to warrant being added to the feature list 17:04:03 Maybe I overlooked something 17:06:09 yeah, just mentioning it, but I see it does have the final release date 17:06:49 -!- Ge0ff has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:07:26 -!- Kellhus has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:09:11 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.20-a0-8-g0e8e6b5 (34) 17:09:43 apparentlY I need yacc installed 17:10:15 to make package-source 17:10:19 package-windows seems fine 17:10:45 Brannock: probably you can use pacman -S yacc 17:13:00 target not found 17:13:48 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 17:18:31 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 17:18:44 Brannock: the bison command doesn't exist for you? 17:19:12 hm, fireworks.rc crashes 17:19:39 doing sanity testing now on a build. gammafunk, bison command? 17:20:02 gammafunk, I'm very new to all this so I'm just learning as I go (part of why I wanted to help out with release/tournament, so I learn by doing) 17:21:03 I mean, you mention not having yacc, you got some kind of error when doing make package-source? 17:21:50 if [ -f ../../stone_soup-0.19-b1-8-g38723a6.tar.xz ]; then rm -f ../../stone_soup-0.19-b1-8-g38723a6.tar.xz; fi 17:21:50 if [ -f ../../stone_soup-0.19-b1-8-g38723a6.zip ]; then rm -f ../../stone_soup-0.19-b1-8-g38723a6.zip; fi 17:21:50 **** yacc is not installed, aborting. 17:21:50 make: *** [Makefile:1386: prebuildyacc] Error 1 17:22:17 also we probably should remove Dwarven Hall from wizmode &~ 17:22:21 unless there's a reason to keep it? 17:22:35 neat, Hall of Blades can still be accessed 17:23:09 Exiting it takes you into Vaults, but then you can't re-enter without wizmoding back in 17:23:11 PleasingFungus: are you going to fix the fireworks.rc crash soon? 17:23:21 Forest, too 17:23:29 Brannock: various branches have to still exist due to save compat, don't worry about it 17:23:41 gammafunk: well, if i can figure out what it is 17:23:53 I'm sending you my energy! 17:23:56 hahaha 17:24:05 i feel like spirit bombing the build might be unwise 17:24:09 though it would be a heck of a firework 17:24:11 well they could probably be hidden on the wizmode menus anyway, a bunch of still-existing things get special-casing there so they don't clutter it up 17:24:14 gammafunk: the question is whether they need to be accessible through wizmode travel 17:24:18 what mpa said ^ 17:24:33 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:24:36 I refuse to discuss any changes just before the tag!!! 17:24:43 Crawl is perfect. 17:24:55 fireworks.rc is very pretty. 17:25:11 like jellyform! that cyc thread about jelly race reminded me that that was once a thing 17:25:16 and what a weird thing it was 17:25:16 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:26:03 -!- aditya has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:26:10 Whoa, we have an ingame FAQ 17:26:13 -!- ElanMorin has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.5] 17:26:18 or well, i guess technically it wasn't ever an actual thing but still 17:26:20 Brannock: btw, is there a reason why we're tagging/releasing today instead of before the t? 17:26:20 "I've somehow ended up in a place called "Abyss." How do I get out of here?" 17:26:34 We usually wait a bit closer to the start of the actual tournament 17:26:47 and it seems we may have a bugfix or two we might want to make! 17:26:56 no particular reason other than special-date, but then someone told me that we normally start touranments on Fridays 17:27:07 also, didn't we already announce that today was the day? 17:27:09 i think you did 17:27:25 well sometimes game companies lie about their announcements 17:27:38 and we're *like* a game company 17:28:34 we're delaying 0.19 release, but pre-order now and get an exclusive sigmund skin! 17:28:37 New game, random character, save/load, dying, level gen, help screens all seem fine on windows 17:28:37 it is illegal to lie. 17:28:41 Anything else to check for? 17:28:45 %git 17:28:45 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.20-a0-8-g0e8e6b5: Fix discord/hep ancestor interaction (10753) 10(67 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0e8e6b5e25fb 17:28:52 well this build crashing concerns me a bit 17:28:58 MarvinPA: i feel like this is going to cause issues somehow 17:29:04 but the original issue is pretty bad 17:29:10 niche but bad 17:30:08 hmm 17:30:45 i saw the bugreport, yeah 17:31:30 Brannock: iirc the in-game FAQ is more like a never-asked questions 17:31:32 installed Bison, now 'make packages-source' gives me this: *** No rule to make target 'packages-source'. Stop. 17:31:52 sounds like you typed the wrong target name 17:32:03 oh, extra 's' 17:32:07 stupid error on my part 17:32:10 ss 17:32:16 can't repro the fireworks crash, ofc 17:32:20 does it affect anything other than ancestors? i don't really know all the implications of is_follower (and can't easily grep at the moment) 17:32:22 would be too easy otherwise 17:32:35 PleasingFungus: are you using the same seed? 17:32:43 using the same command-line invocation 17:32:45 which includes the seed 17:32:56 -!- Gaplan has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:33:12 that is just poop if you ask me 17:33:22 seems to be a clang-only issue 17:33:27 wonder if it's also recent gcc, let me try 17:33:30 MarvinPA: i don't *think* so 17:33:43 hrm. i'm suspicious of that passive_t::convert_orcs logic 17:33:53 but that's mostly unrelated 17:34:19 gammafunk: i am on clang! tried it on fulldebug & vanilla builds, no issues with either across multiple invocations (just in case) 17:34:24 hellmonk was reporting issues with that file too, remember? 17:34:26 i guess a maybe safer/hacky fix would maybe to make ancestors unaffected by discord, since they can already never be angered generally? 17:34:49 i was considering it 17:35:00 feels weird either way 17:35:02 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 17:35:29 right, I'm saying that it may be an issue with compiles more recenent with the gcc 4.7 travis uses for gcc 17:35:32 or is it 4.8 17:35:38 in any case I'm trying with recenter gcc 17:35:40 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 17:35:41 The build was broken. (master - 5cb335a #7052 : Nicholas Feinberg): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/172097347 17:35:41 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 17:36:20 i was looking through old changelogs for i forget what, and spotted it open at "* Differentiate Ha/Ko aptitudes: Kobolds are good at Summ/Necro/Hex, Halflings 17:36:21 at Charm/Tloc." 17:36:23 0.8! 17:36:40 newnewnewnewhalflings 17:37:31 other 0.8 highlights: * Removed spells: Bone Shards, Tame Beasts, Portal, Alter Self, Extension. 17:37:36 i had forgotten about bone shards........... 17:37:45 gammafunk, you might have to do the windows builds after all, I keep getting errors trying to make packages for either source or windows 17:38:04 Brannock: what errors? It seemed to be working ok for me 17:38:25 -!- nikitamog has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:38:52 how do I force compilation with clang again? 17:38:56 -!- danielguo94 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:39:10 i can't believe you would forget about bone shards. 17:39:22 what is cigotuvi's embrace if not an affectionate bone shards homage? 17:39:24 gammafunk http://pastebin.com/iX3XAFDG 17:39:33 that's the last chunk of my windows packaging before it errors out 17:41:35 Brannock: what's the command you used to do that make? 17:41:53 make package-windows LTO=y 17:42:04 I think you need to not use LTO 17:42:12 let's see 17:42:19 i'm glad to see that casting bone shards on orc skeletons angered beogh 17:42:38 does cigotuvi's embrace do that??? 17:42:50 wow, clang is slow 17:43:45 "const bool was_orc = (mons_genus(you.weapon()->plus) == MONS_ORC);" is also just a good line generally 17:44:03 rip "plus" meaning anything and everything 17:44:38 it still does, really 17:44:42 it's just rude to use it that way 17:44:48 ruder 17:44:50 -!- debo_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:45:13 -!- debo_ is now known as Guest57648 17:45:19 -!- Guest57648 has quit [Client Quit] 17:45:29 removing LTO seems to have made msys2 less angry, so there's that 17:45:36 oops, I forgot to -j5, this build might take a while 17:45:41 this same commit removed tame beasts which also has such good trivia 17:45:43 you can just ctrl-c it 17:45:54 Oh good idea 17:46:08 hounds and war dogs are easier to tame! and wargs are easier to tame if you're an orc! 17:46:14 but you can't tame any of those if you're a felid..... 17:46:20 well it doesn't crash for me under gcc or clang 17:47:00 "// 50% bonus for dogs" 17:47:08 excellent 17:47:43 MarvinPA: actually, cigo's probably *should* anger beogh 17:48:08 not a high priority tho :p 17:48:08 -!- removeelyvilon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:48:58 um sounds like a 0.19-blocker to me, totally ruining immersion 17:49:02 rip... 17:49:06 will have to add it in 0.19.1 17:51:47 I wonder why sometimes compilation starts at the 'a' files, other times it starts in the middle 17:52:13 it's based on whether the file has already been compiled 17:52:19 didn't you cancel in the middle of compilation 17:52:26 are we gonna release another 0.18? 17:52:30 I did, it started in the middle, then wrapped back and did the ones listed before the ones that it started on 17:52:30 another bugfix release 17:52:53 also I canceled it at like 'c' I think, not 'm' 17:53:07 doesn't seem to affect anything, just a curiosity 17:53:59 is there cherrypicked stuff waiting for a point release? 17:54:35 %git stone_soup-0.18 17:54:35 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.18.1-50-g88ac8fd: Fix xv (oops) 10(7 weeks ago, 3 files, 8+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/88ac8fda59d8 17:54:39 apparently 17:54:46 probably could grab some more too 17:55:01 if so seems probably reasonable, i don't remember if we've done that before on a new release 17:55:45 the pattern i remember is (a) initial release (b) hotfix release within a week or so [optional] (c) final bugfix release during the next version's release ("end of life") 17:56:21 Brannock: after you've made the package source, the windows zips, and the windows installer (there's a target for that one, hopefully ccache will speed up compilation for you), you just need to upload them 17:56:28 Brannock: then I can put them on CDO 17:56:37 yeah, that sounds about right 17:56:45 It ended up compiling files a second time 17:56:48 Then ended with an error 17:56:53 Brannock: er, sorry, you're just testing, you haven't pushed the tag yet 17:56:54 Right after version.o was being compiled 17:57:23 Brannock: pastebin that if you can 17:57:36 hrm 17:57:45 version.o is usually the last thing compiled 17:57:48 http://pastebin.com/WYwG44nE 17:57:50 so are we tagging/releasing tonight for real? or is this just testing and stuff 17:58:00 I can get the full output if you want, but it looks like it compiled the entire directory twice 17:58:09 MarvinPA, ideally out tonight, yeah 17:58:16 windows build seems fine, just having issues creating packages 17:58:22 makensis 17:58:25 is there a package for that 17:58:34 probably the mac build will straggle in later 17:58:37 judging from history 17:58:43 probably hopefully 17:58:45 I think there's a package for that one, let me see 17:58:52 we all need to get together and buy geekosaur a cake at some point 17:58:57 or some beers. or both 17:59:02 beer-infused cake 17:59:06 maybe TWO cakes. 17:59:06 or rum cake 18:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:00:11 a delicious apple pie 18:01:41 that can't be eaten without permission forms signed in triplicate or some attempt at an apple joke, i'm not sure where i was going with that 18:02:22 Brannock: pacman -S mingw-w64-x86_64-nsis 18:02:24 install dat 18:02:34 then we in there 18:03:58 in conclusion, i can't repro that fireworks crash 18:04:04 probably it's fine and nothing is wrong and everything is good forever. 18:04:05 !flip 18:04:06 (╯°□°)╯︵┻━┻ 18:04:14 -!- DevlanMud has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:04:26 sucks that our travis builds will be broken for a while 18:04:32 until it mysteriously unbreaks 18:04:35 I can't actually find the package now that it's finished building 18:04:46 pacman -S mingw-w64-x86_64-nsis 18:04:46 oh duh 18:04:48 I'm in tehw rong direcotry 18:04:49 you ran that? 18:05:01 oh yeah 18:05:03 I'm still in the original crawl repo, not the cloned one 18:05:06 it puts them in diff places 18:05:08 well not "original" 18:05:11 the zips go in the toplevel 18:05:18 but I think the exe for the install goes in the source dir? 18:05:26 it's weird that way 18:05:44 Brannock: you'll have to recompile these after you push the 0.19.0 tag though 18:05:47 just to be clear 18:05:49 oh good 18:06:02 recompilation should be fast though 18:06:02 looking at my is_follower() change. seems like it means that non-angel tso allies still get extra rCleansing even when they're hexed or discorded 18:07:09 oh, hm. fixes another subtle bug involving abandoning hep while the follower is non-friendly 18:08:49 does something with followers transiting between levels that i don't really understand (_is_religious_follower() in mon-transit.cc) 18:08:51 is that hexed as in ENCH_HEXED? (because that's the worst thing and i don't know if i even know what it really means) 18:08:56 yes 18:09:00 ench_hexed is "charmed by an enemy" 18:09:04 i assume it's "charmed- yes 18:09:08 it's a gruntism 18:10:08 from the days of ench split when the actual meanings of "hex" and "charm" were even more of a mystery than they are now... 18:11:29 or actually i think the amount of mystery is probably completely unchanged, it's just that nobody cares any more that invis is a hex 18:11:49 hexes are stabbing, charms are for being removed 18:11:51 duh 18:11:57 *are for 18:12:00 haha 18:12:31 ugh, another error when trying to make windows zips 18:12:37 http://pastebin.com/TnqMiVZU 18:12:38 bring it on 18:12:44 zip: command not found 18:12:46 it's either you or me make windows zips 18:12:47 that one's easy, at least 18:12:49 one of us has to die 18:13:06 roses are red, violets are blue, charms are dead, I hex you 18:13:19 Brannock: pacman -S zip 18:13:30 and while you're at it, pacman -S unzip 18:14:01 we've never done windows builds from msys2; on linux these would be installed already 18:14:11 I see 18:14:23 I really should set up a linux machine someday soon 18:14:30 you may get another error when it gets to making the xv files 18:14:42 er 18:14:44 is that xz 18:15:34 Brannock: if you do get an error, the package might be xz-utils 18:15:36 actually let me see 18:15:53 -!- eb_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:15:54 seems I have that one installed already 18:16:01 on my msys2 18:16:48 weird, it hangs when trying to install unzip 18:16:52 responds to ctrl-c fine 18:17:28 Actually it hangs on doing any command 18:18:11 welp, rip your computer 18:18:19 it was getting old anyways 18:18:30 -!- elliptic has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:19:22 Okay, fixed it (via magic) 18:20:44 Brannock: maybe you can upload the installer once you've built that, so I can try installing it on my system 18:20:55 Sure 18:20:59 or you can try on another system you have, whatever's more convenient for you 18:21:09 mine is a windows 10 VM 18:21:27 a windows 10 Venom Mage 18:21:30 All my devices are on 10. Not sure whether it's important to test on Win7/8? 18:21:41 would be nice 18:21:45 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:21:47 but I don't have one myself 18:21:57 I can also test in wine 18:22:05 which is *like* win7 18:22:09 (not really) 18:22:24 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 18:24:45 -!- tmass has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:25:37 -!- tmass has quit [Changing host] 18:31:08 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 18:31:09 The build was broken. (master - 11bd45b #7053 : Nicholas Feinberg): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/172100726 18:31:09 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 18:31:21 wow, thanks 18:33:14 Okay installer and zips are done 18:33:46 -!- Nino_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:33:59 Lemme get this onto my second device, brb 18:36:27 you broke the build, now you have to pay for it! 18:36:43 MarvinPA: i *think* the only notable change is that tso can now bless allies that are temporarily hostile 18:36:52 and that's fixable 18:37:07 -!- bannakaffalatta has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 18:37:55 hurrah for weird edge cases 18:38:24 and either way that's a much lesser problem than weird ancestor duplication i guess :P 18:41:00 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 18:44:22 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:44:28 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.20-a0-9-g62d82d9: Restrict blessings to currently-friendly followers 10(32 seconds ago, 1 file, 7+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/62d82d9a6e2a 18:45:10 03PleasingFungus02 07[stone_soup-0.19] * 0.19-b1-9-g64bc322: Fix discord/hep ancestor interaction (10753) 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/64bc3222c215 18:45:10 03PleasingFungus02 07[stone_soup-0.19] * 0.19-b1-10-gb5dbd88: Restrict blessings to currently-friendly followers 10(74 seconds ago, 1 file, 7+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b5dbd8884dfd 18:45:48 -!- scummos__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:48:05 local tiles works, but console just brings up the blinking underscore and nothing else when I run crawl.exe 18:48:12 installer works too, by the way 18:48:28 Brannock: how did you run it, from msys2? 18:48:38 if so you have to do start crawl.exe 18:48:40 from Windows Folder, I don't have msys2 on my second device 18:48:44 hrm 18:48:52 did you have another crawl running at the same time? 18:48:56 No 18:49:13 maybe try starting it from cmd.exe 18:49:20 start->run and type cmd 18:49:40 you have to cd to the dir with the executable 18:49:43 I tried console on my desktop and it took a while but now the menu is open 18:49:45 sounds like it's not crashing though 18:49:51 Nothing on laptop thus far 18:50:00 Nevermind, laptop has frozen 18:50:06 -!- danielguo94 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:50:16 yeah seems like it's building the des cache or something, but if there's an error, you'd see it from dos shell hopefully 18:50:21 oh 18:50:41 Tiles worked fine on laptop so it's not a sysreq issue (unless for some reason console is more intensive than tiles, which seems unlikely) 18:52:45 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:52:52 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:53:28 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 18:54:54 -!- PElf has joined ##crawl-dev 18:56:53 local tiles via installer closes immediately after opened, local console says "Save directory : "C:/Users/Isaac/AppData/Roaming/C:/msys64/crawl/saves" does not exist and I can't create it." 18:56:59 I think something went wrong during building 18:57:36 Unzipped local tiles works fine, unzipped local console locks up my laptop 18:59:11 gammafunk, you wanna just do the builds yourself? I feel like fixing this on my end is going to be more trouble than it's actually worth 19:00:00 -!- jdeeny has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:01:05 Brannock: uh oh 19:01:09 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 49.0.2/20161019084923]] 19:01:20 Brannock: you got that error from your other device? 19:02:02 Yeah 19:02:08 It works fine on my desktop 19:02:15 Actually, let me test the installer on desktop too 19:02:21 yeah that build isn't right, it has the wrong path somehow 19:02:31 it's trying to use an absolute path from your msys 19:02:47 Brannock: well, I can do the windows build, but are you going to tag? 19:02:55 Yep, reproduced installer console error on desktop 19:03:12 As well as tiles immediately closing 19:03:32 er, does any build work? you said it worked fine on your desktop 19:03:41 the zipped builds work fine 19:03:48 ah ok, just the installer 19:03:51 -!- graymark has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:04:01 Just start over on your side, I think. Especially since we have a few more commits to add 19:04:25 well no, you have to do the tag 19:04:57 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.20-a0-9-g62d82d9 (34) 19:05:17 -!- Dracunos has joined ##crawl-dev 19:05:34 just let me know when you've pushed the 0.19.0 tag and I'll start the builds up 19:05:41 -!- Dracunos-m has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:06:00 sounds like we just have a couple quirks to work out with msys2 and the installer, we can fix that later 19:08:26 -!- keszocze_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:09:12 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.20-a0-9-g62d82d9 (34) 19:09:41 Tag should be up now 19:10:12 %git stone_soup-0.19 19:10:12 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.19.0: Restrict blessings to currently-friendly followers 10(26 minutes ago, 1 file, 7+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b5dbd8884dfd 19:10:14 ok 19:10:22 Sorry for all the trouble 19:10:37 no worries 19:10:57 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 19:11:00 time to start up the build server 19:11:48 !tell geekosaur 0.19.0 is tagged if you'd like to put on your crown of thorns 19:11:49 gammafunk: OK, I'll let geekosaur know. 19:14:37 geekosaur singing as he tries to make the os x builds: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KR4DjYczINM 19:16:13 -!- jeefus has joined ##crawl-dev 19:19:45 -!- jefus has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:19:48 lol 19:20:27 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 19:21:45 gammafunk, ping me if you need anything. I'll grind through tournament setup tomorrow morning 19:21:55 cool 19:22:00 happy halloween! 19:22:04 same to you! 19:23:14 -!- hellmonk has joined ##crawl-dev 19:26:27 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 19:28:21 -!- Kranix has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 19:31:19 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:36:19 -!- ig0rbit has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:37:12 -!- DrKe has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:37:27 -!- DrKe has joined ##crawl-dev 19:43:30 !hs nahu 19:43:30 No games for nahu (sc<1000000000). 19:44:07 !hs * nahu 19:44:07 1588. eld the Cruiserweight Champion (L27 NaHu of Cheibriados), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2016-07-06 23:41:45, with 39290494 points after 37263 turns and 4:51:01. 19:44:12 that what you wanted? 19:45:27 yeah, thx, used wrong channel 19:46:56 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 19:48:53 -!- nikheizen has joined ##crawl-dev 19:49:37 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 19:52:10 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:53:28 -!- Yezarul has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:55:54 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:59:55 -!- insecticide9 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 20:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:04:30 oh hey, crawl's build is failing 20:06:20 and it's the same crash that's causing my builds to fail, except it's on the other compiler 20:06:34 fucking lel 20:06:38 -!- temp has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:13:13 -!- ythm has quit [Client Quit] 20:15:59 -!- pumpklynn is now known as lynn 20:17:16 -!- mong has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:18:25 -!- _Jordan_ has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 20:21:55 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 20:21:56 The build was broken. (stone_soup-0.19 - 38723a6 #7055 : Nicholas Feinberg): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/172106328 20:21:56 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 20:26:21 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:26:34 -!- cait_ is now known as cait 20:29:51 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 20:29:56 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 20:30:07 -!- arianwen has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 20:32:24 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:35:04 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 20:37:32 -!- AlphaQ_ has quit [Client Quit] 20:40:22 -!- AlphaQ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:40:38 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 20:41:38 -!- aditya has joined ##crawl-dev 20:45:19 hellmonk: great! means it's not your problem 20:45:27 yea 20:45:37 I think travis is haunted 20:47:49 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:52:22 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:54:08 you can blame PleasingFungus 20:54:59 s p o o k y 20:55:29 imo skeletons should radiate an aura of fear 20:55:42 -!- Undo has joined ##crawl-dev 21:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:05:02 -!- aditya has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:07:55 <|amethyst> re that travis error, it's a SIGTERM inside a message_window::more 21:07:55 |amethyst: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 21:08:02 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 21:08:21 ah. so it's really a timeout? 21:08:22 geekosaur: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 21:08:27 <|amethyst> yeah, I think so 21:08:36 ...yes, squeaky, I saw that already :p 21:15:12 Is it intentional that you don't get a "Save macros?" prompt when you use ^q? 21:16:50 Wait, it prompted someone else when they tried it. Odd. 21:17:57 -!- Undo has quit [Quit: Good night!] 21:28:26 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 21:30:56 https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2016/10/31/the-50-best-free-games-on-pc/27/ 21:31:36 yeah someone posted that earlier 21:32:00 ah, I didn't check the midday logs 21:32:20 congratulations 21:32:29 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 21:34:31 thanks 21:49:40 -!- adelrune has joined ##crawl-dev 21:52:24 -!- bollsw_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:52:29 -!- bollsw has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:59:49 -!- ZiBuDo has joined ##crawl-dev 22:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:00:17 heyo, What do I need to do for the tourney coming up? 22:01:30 -!- Ququman has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:04:12 what did dcss get last year? did it move up or down? 22:04:45 looks like RPS took down last year's article 22:04:57 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:05:02 https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2015/10/16/best-free-games-on-pc/ points to 2016 instead 22:05:12 ZiBuDo: add 0.19 to cjr, and we'll soon have a survey that would be nice to add to the lobby page 22:05:23 is 0.19.0 tagged? 22:05:24 ZiBuDo: let me know if you have trouble adding 0.19 22:05:26 yes 22:05:29 cool 22:05:40 but that's unrelated to cjr 22:07:02 32. Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup 22:07:04 https://web.archive.org/web/20151018155446/http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2015/10/16/best-free-games-on-pc/9/ 22:07:11 moving on up! 22:08:42 maybe we can beat Brogue with 0.20 22:08:48 got lots in the pipeline for that one 22:09:00 alright ill do it 2nite 22:09:07 FoghatOfWar (L12 DsFE) ASSERT(!cell_is_solid(ctarget)) in 'cloud.cc' at line 745 failed. (Volcano) 22:09:20 release \o/ 22:10:01 just remove food and you'll beat brogue for sure 22:10:02 wow, don't go super crazy wheals 22:10:28 just replace crawl with hellcrawl 22:10:32 I should do the annual dev team roundup 22:10:41 are any other devs already pledged to teams or otherwise not playing? 22:10:50 or, the inverse question, are devs looking for teams 22:11:25 and a third question, what would you bring to a team, what are your personal accomplishments, and tell us a bit about your hobbies 22:11:49 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 22:12:05 we're looking for capricorns, no geminis please 22:12:11 how about cancers? 22:12:13 <|amethyst> My hobbies include joining teams to subvert them from the inside 22:12:16 it's me, I'm the legendary Crab Dev 22:13:22 |amethyst title QUITOLOGIST 22:13:42 !lg neil t0.18 / boring 22:13:43 3/267 games for neil (t0.18): N=3/267 (1.12%) 22:13:47 oh, not that many last time 22:14:19 <|amethyst> Ecuador is a fine country, and I will not have you sullying the name of its capital city 22:14:29 haha 22:20:33 i'm up for being in a dev team 22:20:40 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:21:00 r??reserved clan names 22:21:01 reserved_clan_names[1/22]: Quiescent Sporulation [who do you think?] 22:21:04 r??reserved clan names 22:21:04 reserved_clan_names[12/22]: Fish for Cheap Surges [gammafunk] 22:21:42 dungeness craw 22:21:44 crawl* 22:22:02 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 22:22:03 The build passed. (0.19.0 - b5dbd88 #7058 : Nicholas Feinberg): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/172150975 22:22:03 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 22:22:38 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:25:27 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 22:26:01 -!- destroythecore has quit [Client Quit] 22:27:00 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 22:28:38 -!- Telnaior has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:30:01 -!- Vitna has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:30:06 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:30:33 * geekosaur briefly considers resurrecting dungeoness crabs >.> 22:33:23 ??crab rule 22:33:23 crab rule[1/1]: no more crabs. 22:34:27 gamma's turning into hellmonk 22:34:44 crabs are cool imo 22:35:13 replace the swamp with the crab broil 22:35:22 and then replace shoals with the clam bake 22:36:55 (this was an early d critter partially replacing worker ants. I stopped at the point where I realized I didn't know what-all needed to be done to implement a monster spell (sandblast)) 22:37:53 make them replace worms instead 22:38:00 worst most boringest early d monster 22:38:23 tempting. although worms are d1 and something that can cast sandblast perhaps shouldn't be that early 22:38:36 which is why I used the ant range 22:39:25 (earth's kinda ridic op even after checking ac 3 times...) 22:39:56 -!- Nino has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:40:02 how much damage is low hd sandblast compared to slug dart 22:40:11 actually I'd just cut worms now, since slug darts seem to fill the niche 22:40:17 er dart slugs 22:40:39 one more step to glorious harmony with hellcrawl :3 22:41:27 player sandblast even without rocks is one of the strongest l1 spells. *with* rocks (which I wasn't about to try to give puncrabs) it reliably takes out stuff that can't otherwise be touched 22:42:02 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:43:09 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:59:12 well there's nothing I'm aware of that can only be taken out with rock sandblast as far as L1 spells are concerned 23:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:02:21 not any more :) 23:02:46 back when the d:1 ood was an ogre, you could one-shot it pretty reliably 23:03:08 ogres are absolutely killable with other L1 spells 23:03:10 (not that that matters, I kited it a lot even without sandblast) 23:03:15 (or spells) 23:03:35 gammafunk, but if you still need a dev for the team I'd be happy to play 23:03:37 and on d:1 23:03:41 gammafunk, maybe then I can take a break from splatting endless DsEn 23:03:54 sure, I should figure out a team and get an rc going 23:04:18 "rev up those friars" is available since my team opted against it 23:04:39 let the memes flow through you 23:16:34 -!- Jorgrell has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:19:21 is Lasty gonna play this tournament? 23:20:28 Lasty usually plays on an AWBW team 23:20:34 wheals and PleasingFungus often play some 23:20:41 amalloy as well, but he may be busy this time 23:20:54 the key thing you need to lure in the best of the best 23:20:57 is the elite clan name 23:21:05 ??reserved_clan_names[$ 23:21:05 reserved clan names[22/22]: Beat Your Unavoidable Deaths Drum [gammafunk] 23:21:18 ??reserved_clan_names[$-1 23:21:18 I don't have a page labeled reserved_clan_names[$-1 in my learndb. 23:21:18 dan 23:21:18 g 23:21:18 ??reserved_clan_names[21 23:21:18 reserved clan names[21/22]: Nil And The Abyss [espais] 23:21:22 ??reserved_clan_names[20 23:21:22 reserved clan names[20/22]: Revenge of the -cTele from the Black Lagoon [minmay i guess] 23:21:27 ??reserved_clan_names[19 23:21:27 reserved clan names[19/22]: Nigel Pepper Cocytus 23:21:34 ??reserved_clan_names[18 23:21:34 reserved clan names[18/22]: As Slimes Are To Horses [PleasingFungus] 23:21:40 ??reserved_clan_names[17 23:21:41 reserved clan names[17/22]: Sexy Margery 2.0 [ontoclasm] 23:21:45 ??reserved_clan_names[16 23:21:45 reserved clan names[16/22]: BaBe got BaCK [gammafunk] 23:21:51 alas not meant to be 23:21:51 99 problems but abyss aint one, Hellfire Cant Melt Steel Golems, Lifes Abyss And Then You Die were my previous three clan names 23:22:17 it's always nice if the pun/reference is topical 23:22:28 for 0.19 23:22:40 Ban Blowguns - End Needles Violence was very good 23:22:41 but then again wizards without wizlabs was just because I liked it 23:22:48 yeah that's great 23:23:54 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:24:01 I vaguely recall a Sequell command to just send you all the numbered entries for a particular query 23:24:03 -!- tigertrap has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:24:05 without having to sequentially request it 23:24:11 yeah there's readall 23:24:20 but it will cut off outside of pm 23:24:26 very good 23:24:51 I'd like to register a complaint about salamander hide armour 23:24:58 Save BaBe got BaCK for 0.20 maybe 23:25:06 its just too mediocre to be worn, almost ever 23:25:11 ??salamander hide armour 23:25:11 salamander hide armour[1/1]: A +3 leather armour, rF++, evocable berserk. 23:25:12 salawhat 23:25:22 saladmander hide 23:25:29 evocable stickyflame, imo 23:25:34 saladmancer hide 23:25:36 oh it's just "a nice leather armour if you find it early" 23:25:43 what is this, KoL? 23:25:44 evokable zerk is nice but the rest is irrelevant during the part of the game where you want evokable zerk 23:25:51 it's nice for volcanos 23:25:57 and past that part, you aren't going to want +3 leather 23:26:08 I agree it needs a bit more zazz 23:26:11 Brannock, it is. so is random +2 chain mail of rF 23:26:12 and artefacts don't often spawn early 23:26:26 adding it to my list of things to look over 23:26:26 I don't get it, it's to be a chain mail now? 23:26:26 fr: change it to salamander scales 23:26:33 pretty sure chain mail has a different profile from leather armour 23:26:43 fine, +2 ring mail of rF 23:26:59 sure, but +2 ring mails of rF tend not to have evocable berserk 23:27:17 Brannock, not saying it has to be wyrmbane or gauntlets of war, just make it desirable to someone 23:27:33 right, its basically evokable zerk on bad armour 23:27:44 no 23:27:44 which is good in the part of the game where evokable zerk wins everything 23:27:46 it's not that 23:27:48 ??zhor 23:27:48 skin of zhor[1/1]: +4 animal skin with rC+++. 23:27:58 thats truly awful 23:27:59 that's claiming that all leather armour is bad to wear 23:28:02 whats the logic behind it having +zerk anyway, salamanders don't zerk in this game 23:28:06 which is not a good thing to claim 23:28:09 it makes you turn red, hellmonk 23:28:12 unless they find a zerk pot I guess 23:28:14 just like salamanders 23:28:20 lol 23:28:23 hellmonk, flavor reasons? your hot blood makes you angry etc 23:28:27 skin of zhor is fuckin awful as well 23:28:33 stinky!! 23:28:44 make skin of zhor give you ds style passive freeze 23:28:50 zhor isn't bad on a caster I guess 23:28:55 it's an armour that you will quite possibly outgrow, which is just fine, but saying it's "bad for everyone" is just outright wrong 23:28:56 2 more AC than a robe 23:29:07 skin of zhor is probably objectively worse against ice clouds than +2 rC plate is 23:29:10 if you wanted to make it more special, probably add something subtle 23:29:17 there are plenty of fixedarts that the player will outgrow, yeah 23:29:25 since evocable berserk is already really strong 23:29:32 these two are ones that the player will almost never pick up 23:29:46 well again this is just untrue 23:29:51 I wear rf+ leather on plenty of chars 23:29:55 unless, like, it's d:4 23:30:02 Sweet Xom and Hella Trog 23:30:03 and certainly for a while past d:4 23:30:04 another good one 23:30:11 probably too referential to qualify as Truly Good 23:30:38 WE WUZ PHARAOHS N SHIIIEEET <-- this seems borderline to me 23:30:52 heh is that the 4chan team? 23:30:55 seems like it 23:30:55 that's a vg clan name, what do you expect 23:31:01 borderline how? 23:31:03 seems fair, then 23:31:08 gammafunk, it's a reference to a racist meme 23:31:16 but... they went all in on mummies right? 23:31:22 "we wuz kangs" making fun of black people referencing african heritage 23:31:23 iirc 23:31:34 that kind of stuff is really hard to police 23:31:35 yeah 23:31:35 that was the mumo challenge only squad I think 23:31:42 http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.18/clans/heterosexualmale.html yes it was 23:31:48 we are not the yale hallowing costume commitee 23:31:54 *halloween 23:32:00 I wouldn't want us to be! 23:32:48 Quokka Flokka Flame, from 0.17, very good 23:33:21 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:36:43 i probably won't get a lot of t games in. i'm still recording shenzhen i/o, and then when i'm done with that i'm in the middle of a trunk game that was suspended for a week or two due to cao that i should finish first 23:37:20 now that he's a youtube A-list celebrity, amalloy doesn't need the dev team any more... 23:37:49 you'll be happy to hear that youtube thinks crawl is more interesting than shenzhen i/o 23:38:05 viewership is down quite a bit while i play this silly game 23:38:42 -!- jdeeny has joined ##crawl-dev 23:43:06 MiBe is a culture, not a costume 23:43:43 Brannock: you could test these win builds for me? 23:43:56 Sure, though it'll have to wait about a hour 23:44:01 Watching a movie with a friend 23:44:12 ok, I'll give them a go myself then, but I'll put the url here 23:47:29 actually I can take like 10 minutes to test them 23:47:56 -!- laularukyrumo has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:48:11 I'll try to get them uploaded, no worries if you're busy 23:48:22 my friend had to run out to get medicine for his wife 23:48:23 so I'm open :) 23:49:09 can someone fix buttlang so it doesn't change item letters to butt like "[butt] - ring of fire resistance [f] - ring of ice" when you are taking off a ring 23:49:45 that's the majority of the fun with buttlang 23:49:59 you can use < 23:50:01 my personal favorite is still butt,jager,grunt 23:50:16 wait 23:50:17 fairly inscrutable 23:50:24 < does left ring? 23:50:26 < selects left ring, > selects right ring 23:50:26 yes 23:50:29 wow 23:50:35 ty 23:50:38 yw 23:50:44 MIND BLOWN 23:50:49 what if octopode! 23:53:33 just hit << real fast 23:53:37 or <<<< 23:53:45 I'm sure that will work 23:53:46 wow, 12 minute download 23:54:05 guess I could have copied directly to cdo 23:56:38 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 23:57:43 much better 23:58:11 hrm, if I use my ssh key for cdo for the shared login 23:58:17 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 23:58:29 is there a way I can use that from another host without copying over the private key to that host? 23:59:00 ssh -a to the intermediate host 23:59:01 asking for a friend 23:59:24 after making sure ssh-agent is running on the local host 23:59:53 (-a proxies the connection to the local agent so the intermediate host can use it to access your local keystore)