00:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:01:59 nooo 00:02:03 what's wrong with crystal??? 00:02:17 absolutely nothing! 00:02:23 there. fine. we're good 00:02:25 great crystal statue... 00:02:30 |amethyst: did you get my tell about when we should branch 00:02:35 i feel like the time approaches... 00:02:42 CanOfWorms: get this: 00:02:44 GREATER crystal statue 00:02:47 !!! 00:02:51 new unique 00:03:13 I assume your branch pun primed 00:03:24 oh god, i always forget 00:03:36 brannock's the one who's making the branch, anyway 00:03:49 since he wants to learn the ropes 00:03:49 Oh good 00:04:29 so, do you have your branch pun primed 00:04:38 branch pun? 00:05:20 hmm 00:05:24 %git 3a7184 00:05:24 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.18-b1: Reduce wield message ambiguity (10369, Naruni) 10(6 months ago, 1 file, 27+ 12-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3a7184276089 00:05:42 well, see these examples: 00:05:43 http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=tag;h=aa27ed16cb8cfe8bcbeba62e31809ff1977779f9 00:05:49 http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=tag;h=65e2ed4a97132fa38f7f9a95a12a3d2c5e20c32b 00:06:08 those aren't great :( 00:06:12 http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=tag;h=4d8d932ad77da50558349aa8f9364f6872b14ff8 00:06:14 yeah 00:06:19 that one is good though 00:06:32 http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=tag;h=bb788967b4be3e31f14194ac4e332ca29abd3ad8 00:06:52 http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=tag;h=b51cdb488d59f6d2661fde0cc13fc58a0b84368d my favorite 00:07:09 -!- adelrune has joined ##crawl-dev 00:07:30 http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=tag;h=2bec13831d860979d6e7a5ef580615f76108a8b1 is another classic 00:07:57 though i guess both of those are trunk branches, not stable 00:08:14 I will consider this carefully, a high branch has been set for me 00:08:16 -!- hellmonk has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:08:30 considering the evidence, it's not very high at all :p 00:10:34 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-1937-g70ed36a (34) 00:11:09 The big 2-0 needs something suitable for it 00:11:20 I don't envy the person who has to think up something for 0.27 00:11:59 the big thing for 0.27 is easy 00:12:02 just remove crawl in 0.27 00:12:11 0.20 though, thats hard 00:12:13 the fabled Final Version 00:13:47 remove trog 00:14:05 -!- panicbit has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:14:51 you could remove gargoyles and/or Mi and/or HO, that'd probably get almost as much cack as MD removal and be a nice parallel to 0.10 00:16:06 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 49.0.2/20161019084923]] 00:18:26 oops 00:18:35 wasn't supposed to remove PleasingFungus until 0.21 00:20:21 -!- jeefus has joined ##crawl-dev 00:20:36 -!- destroythecore has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:23:41 -!- adelrune has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:23:49 -!- jefus has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:31:28 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.19-a0-1937-g70ed36a (34) 00:33:10 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:33:25 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:34:23 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest93648 00:37:55 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:38:40 -!- Guest93648 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:42:48 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 00:55:08 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:04:00 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:04:23 -!- Awod has quit [] 01:16:09 -!- kdrnic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:16:20 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 01:18:32 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: magistern] 01:19:51 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 01:20:04 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-1937-g70ed36a (34) 01:28:27 maybe for 0.20 you should link to crawl-nude 01:29:54 when is crawl 1.0 01:29:54 dungeon crawl xxx 01:31:28 Kramin: 2027 01:31:40 ontoclasm: i hope you actually downloaded crawl-nude i actually put a lot of work into it 01:34:42 a masterpiece 01:35:12 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest20149 01:38:02 -!- Furril has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:39:41 -!- Guest20149 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:40:37 -!- Dingo_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:47:08 crawl-nude? How did you decide what gender the ungendered monsters are? 01:47:14 -!- MakMorn has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:47:31 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 01:48:08 chequers: all you need to do is download it and find out! 01:48:40 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 01:49:47 -!- eb_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:51:49 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:52:29 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 01:53:15 -!- PElf has joined ##crawl-dev 01:56:49 -!- staplegun has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:57:48 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-1937-g70ed36a 01:58:47 -!- Lasty1 has joined ##crawl-dev 02:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:00:47 -!- Lasty has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:10:51 -!- ZiBuDo has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:20:37 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:24:34 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest91396 02:25:23 -!- Brannock has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:27:17 -!- Guest91396 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:35:58 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:39:39 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:39:52 ??zxc 02:39:53 zxc[1/2]: Sometimes records crawl videos on https://www.youtube.com/user/kwrkrlz 02:39:56 ??zzxc 02:39:57 zzxc[1/2]: My 0.18+ Troll guide: TACTICS: Tab then eat things. Don't get surrounded. Use Throwing/Evocations vs hydras. Run away to regen HP. SKILLS: Priorities are Unarmed Combat > Fighting > Dodging. Train Shields in line with dodging when you find a shield, Armour if you find dragon armour, and 6-10 Invocations depending on god. Optional: Throwing, Evocations, early 2-4 spell skills. 02:40:09 dont you dare touch it 02:40:30 you can't watch it 24/7 02:40:47 I'll curse you for all of cogmindternity 02:40:55 programmers will come after you in your osleep 02:41:06 don't send me to that chute place 02:41:11 I'm not going back there or to the mines 02:41:13 ever. 02:41:13 that's your final resting place 02:43:47 -!- bencryption has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:45:45 -!- ProzacElf_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:48:24 -!- bencryption_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:49:32 "Do I use potion of experience immediately? I got it around XL14 but never ended up using it, feeling that I was strong enough not to need a boost and saving it for later." 02:49:45 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:50:35 where is this quote from 02:50:39 reddit 02:50:44 https://www.reddit.com/r/dcss/comments/59ftm2/more_questions/ 02:53:31 I wonder if adding "It is significantly more useful for inexperienced adventurers" is enough to convince people not to hoard it 02:55:15 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-1937-g70ed36a 02:57:26 -!- beogh has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:58:10 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 03:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:13:19 -!- ldf has joined ##crawl-dev 03:18:25 -!- ldf_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:21:05 hope you enjoy the +0.1 to 1 skill if you use it late game... 03:21:35 -!- mong has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:24:26 Unstable branch on 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06magic(40), 11elec+++ | Vul: 09poison | Chunks: 14noxious | XP: 1212 | Sp: blinkbolt (2d18) [06!sil] | Sz: tiny | Int: animal. 06:54:06 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest45600 07:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:09:58 -!- Guest45600 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:12:06 potion of make rest of the game easier 07:20:41 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 07:21:08 -!- Lasty1 is now known as Lasty 07:25:31 -!- ZiBuDo has joined ##crawl-dev 07:37:08 -!- ig0rbit has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:41:14 -!- ldf__ has joined ##crawl-dev 07:43:52 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:51:12 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 07:56:06 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest88401 07:56:50 -!- smltlk has joined ##crawl-dev 08:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:07:24 -!- Bammboo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:13:22 -!- Bammboo00 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 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I'm going to do 2013,2014,2015 now and they should be done by the time I get home from work. 08:20:34 johnstein: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 08:22:53 !tell |amethyst you can cd /chroot/dgldir/ttyrec, then xargs rm < /home/johnstein/ttyrec/200.txt to rm the files for each year (200, 2010, 2011, 2012 for now) 08:22:54 johnstein: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 08:23:32 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:24:58 -!- waat has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:28:51 -!- ldf__ has quit [Quit: ldf__] 08:31:04 -!- Patashu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:34:20 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:36:19 -!- Bammboo00 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:43:41 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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Use !messages to read them. 11:06:43 <|amethyst> %git f90497cc 11:06:43 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.18-a0-1618-gf90497c: Hellfire -> Damnation 10(7 months ago, 59 files, 182+ 206-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f90497cceb3f 11:07:00 <|amethyst> from the commit message: "Vehumet still suggests ending it all in hellfire, and still does not provide access to hellfire in any way. This is funny to me." 11:07:48 <|amethyst> johnstein: thanks, though I might not have time to do that for a little while 11:09:13 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 11:09:28 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 11:09:29 ok. we can also talk about longer term 11:09:50 about maybe me helping with cao longer term. 11:10:14 I'll let you know when everything is done. thanks 11:21:08 -!- Dracunos7 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:26:17 -!- Morg0th has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:33:21 -!- Cassieopeia has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:34:21 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:38:48 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:39:09 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 11:44:38 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 11:48:12 -!- Dracunos-m has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:51:55 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 11:59:03 -!- smltlk has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:09:22 -!- Brannock has joined ##crawl-dev 12:12:45 -!- Shinino has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:13:19 -!- Brannock has quit [Client Quit] 12:13:56 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 12:14:22 -!- Brannock has joined ##crawl-dev 12:20:20 -!- jefus- has joined ##crawl-dev 12:24:03 -!- jeefus has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:39:10 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 12:47:32 -!- hogsquash has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:59:46 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 13:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:02:12 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:03:59 Webtiles server stopped. 13:04:15 rcreutzb (L1 GrEE) (D:1) 13:04:24 -!- kuniqs has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:05:00 * geekosaur wonders how long that has been waiting to complete.. 13:05:15 <|amethyst> the game or webtiles stop 13:05:15 |amethyst: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 13:05:16 <|amethyst> ? 13:05:54 the webtiles stop 13:06:01 <|amethyst> only a couple of seconds 13:06:04 <|amethyst> I just did it 13:06:07 ah 13:06:29 * geekosaur had thought that webtiles was stopped ... over a week ago? but never actually finished stopping it... 13:06:31 <|amethyst> johnstein: thanks, about to rm now: 20{0,1[012]}.txt 13:06:55 <|amethyst> it might have broken without actually being terminated 13:06:59 <|amethyst> probably did if it couldn't create sockets 13:07:15 the lobby was still up for a long time, and people were occasionally managing to start games 13:07:33 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:08:04 <|amethyst> johnstein: do you have the ability to make varmin aware of the new locations of these files? 13:08:12 -!- epsilonhalbe has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:08:25 <|amethyst> johnstein: (also, they're not going into an auto-cleaned cache dir I hope :) 13:11:24 <|amethyst> johnstein: it's running now 13:16:54 -!- Kenran has joined ##crawl-dev 13:19:30 -!- CacoS is now known as CcS 13:27:42 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:37:53 -!- Dracunos7 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:39:58 -!- nikheizen has joined ##crawl-dev 13:49:23 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:50:26 gammafunk, how exactly should I connect to the tournament server? I tried to connect to it using MySQL shell and I'm getting a connection refused. Should I be using another way to connect into it? 13:50:38 -!- Xjs|moonshine has quit [Quit: ()] 13:52:24 oh, TTY does it fine 13:57:24 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Changing host] 13:57:29 !tell PleasingFungus i can't reproduce the issue with bolt-bounce preview and unexplored tiles, i think i'd need to see a test case map 13:57:30 wheals: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 13:57:34 -!- Wah has quit [Read error: No route to host] 13:57:43 1tell wheals rip 13:57:43 PleasingFungus: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 13:57:49 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 13:58:12 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 13:58:46 wheals: i pinged the original guy (darox) to see if he could give more info 14:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:00:44 -!- TuxQmoob has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:01:07 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:02:45 PleasingFungus, while I wait for gammafunk to show up to help out, do you mind helping me track down a couple bugs on a branch? 14:02:59 it would be my pleasure, old friend. 14:03:05 jolly ol chum 14:03:08 excellent 14:03:21 you have to say what the bugs are, tho 14:03:30 also the branch 14:03:39 2 bugs: 1. the game crashes on loading maps, I've gone over my vaults changes with a fine tooth comb but must be missing something. 2. rCorr armor property doesn't quite work and crashes the game when tested. 14:03:42 branch pushing soon 14:03:50 nice 14:04:11 the loading crash happened without any changes on my end, so I think it's a conflict with a commit that was pushed onto master 14:04:19 nice 14:05:52 New branch created: draconian-refocus (8 commits) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/tree/draconian-refocus 14:05:53 03Brannock02 07[draconian-refocus] * 0.19-a0-1934-gf401fc5: Remove mottled draconian monsters 10(4 weeks ago, 16 files, 27+ 61-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f401fc5c62a8 14:05:53 03Brannock02 07[draconian-refocus] * 0.19-a0-1935-g192b579: Remove mottled draconian species 10(4 weeks ago, 9 files, 10+ 29-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/192b579500f2 14:05:53 03Brannock02 07[draconian-refocus] * 0.19-a0-1936-gf35bf84: Remove ABIL_BREATHE_STICKY_FLAME 10(4 weeks ago, 12 files, 9+ 84-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f35bf84257e2 14:05:53 03Brannock02 07[draconian-refocus] * 0.19-a0-1937-g59e7dc0: Rework draconian acid breath 10(3 weeks ago, 13 files, 79+ 38-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/59e7dc02e733 14:05:53 03Brannock02 07[draconian-refocus] * 0.19-a0-1938-gb8561cb: Replace mottled dragons with acid dragons 10(13 days ago, 42 files, 89+ 99-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b8561cb94da4 14:05:53 03Brannock02 07[draconian-refocus] * 0.19-a0-1939-g1d55705: Remove a sticky flame resistance check 10(12 days ago, 1 file, 0+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1d5570543004 14:05:53 03Brannock02 07[draconian-refocus] * 0.19-a0-1940-g613a82d: Give rCorr to acid dragon scales 10(12 days ago, 7 files, 21+ 11-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/613a82dbbc4b 14:05:53 03Brannock02 07[draconian-refocus] * 0.19-a0-1941-g6543620: Turn player mottled into yellow draconians 10(8 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/654362011379 14:06:58 Oh, I forgot about the third "bug" - I need to figure out how to preserve save compatibility and I don't think I did a very good job of it, was meaning to revisit it then got distracted by other stuff 14:08:45 nice, this doesn't build 14:08:57 yeah I messed up tag-version.h 14:09:03 Add a comma after MOTTLED_REMOVAL on line 200 14:09:22 yeah yeah 14:10:26 imo, the save compat works better with a build that compiles 14:10:28 :P 14:10:39 likely 14:10:41 also, did you see the shrapnel branch? 14:10:46 Not yet 14:11:10 Ooh 14:11:37 Good combination with corrosion 14:11:44 heh 14:11:55 for when i push that corrosion hex 14:12:20 hadn't thought of that 14:12:41 I've been working with acid a bunch lately between Punk and this branch so it's on my mind 14:13:13 ah, nice segfault 14:13:30 03PleasingFungus02 07[draconian-refocus] * 0.19-a0-1942-g14b1804: Fix the build 10(12 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/14b18041b0cb 14:13:37 It's always on loading maps and I can't get a trace on it via cmd.exe so I was lost 14:13:51 i think "maybe firestorm yourself, who knows" is probably a pretty hard sell as far as spells go 14:14:14 Gargoyles would like it 14:14:28 also seems like it'd maybe be hard to communicate the mechanics, especially via the targeter? 14:17:12 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 14:17:13 The build failed. (draconian-refocus - 6543620 #7029 : Isaac Sloat): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/170856614 14:17:13 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 14:17:51 MarvinPA: well, it's relatively clear what's happening once you actually fire it... agreed the targeter isn't ideal 14:18:16 good ac makes it more usable (and i want to lower the damage to make ac more relevant) 14:18:54 a good amount of lategame monsters have decent amounts of AC 14:19:00 @??titan 14:19:00 titan (06C) | Spd: 10 | HD: 20 | HP: 84-126 | AC/EV: 10/3 | Dam: 55 | 10doors, fighter, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(180), 11elec+++, 12drown | XP: 2586 | Sp: b.lightning (3d24), minor healing (2d10+3), airstrike (0-50) | Sz: Giant | Int: human. 14:19:05 @??lich 14:19:05 lich (15L) | Spd: 10 | HD: 20 | HP: 64-95 | AC/EV: 10/10 | Dam: 1513(drain) | 07undead, 10doors, evil, spellcaster, see invisible, unbreathing | Res: 13magic(immune), 02cold++, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08cleanse++ | XP: 2954 | Sp: b.cold (3d29), force lance (3d22), sum.greater demon, slow, invisibility / b.corrosive (3d23), crystal spear (3d40), petrify, haste / .. 14:19:10 @??curse skull 14:19:10 curse skull (13z) | Spd: 15 | HD: 13 | HP: 41-61 | AC/EV: 35/3 | 07undead, evil, see invisible, fly, unbreathing | Res: 13magic(immune), 05fire++, 02cold++, 10elec, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08cleanse++ | XP: 1582 | Sp: sum.undead [06!sil], s.torment [06!sil] | Sz: tiny | Int: human. 14:19:19 @??juggernaut 14:19:19 juggernaut (09C) | Spd: 15 (atk: 450%) | HD: 20 | HP: 148-197 | AC/EV: 20/5 | Dam: 80, 40 | 10doors, fighter, see invisible | Res: 06magic(120), 12drown | XP: 7246 | Sz: Giant | Int: human. 14:19:31 @??titanic slime creature 14:19:31 titanic slime creature (03J) | Spd: 10 | HD: 11 | HP: 255-350 | AC/EV: 1/4 | Dam: 110 | amphibious, regen, unbreathing | Res: 06magic(40), 03poison, 12drown | XP: 1321 | Sz: Giant | Int: brainless. 14:19:35 heh 14:19:45 So you're looking at Fire Storm resisted by 24 to 30++ ac 14:19:51 Or less-than-Firestorm 14:20:05 yeah, firestorm damage was a mistake 14:20:18 i think the combination of unreliable and complicated isn't great (lrd is also already both of those things to varying extents, and less damage would make it more lrd-like) 14:20:28 Level 7 might be on the high end for it, compare iron shot or, yeah, lrd 14:20:40 otoh, area effect 14:20:55 well, it'll always hit the actual target 14:21:11 and i don't think it's hugely complicated 14:21:22 simpler than something like cbl, for example 14:22:37 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest13836 14:23:37 Fire Storm is, what, 7d30 damage? 14:23:43 ? 14:23:44 @??iron shot 14:23:44 unknown monster: "iron shot" 14:23:54 ??iron shot 14:23:54 iron shot[1/2]: A level 6 conj/earth single target attack spell, formerly known as Bolt of Iron. Has poor accuracy and range, but does a decent amount of non-elemental damage. It's found in the book of Earth and book of Power. 9d18 at full power. To-hit: 7+power/15. 14:23:54 it's 8d(5+pow) 14:24:00 well, not pow 14:24:05 5+something 14:24:34 ??varmin 14:24:34 varmin[1/2]: Varmin is the bot that reads !fight commands from the irc channel, see {!fight} 14:24:35 oh, 8d((5 +pow)/8) 14:24:55 |amethyst: since shalott already had a directory for cao I assumed any prep work was done 14:24:56 so 8d13 at 100 pow 14:26:02 -!- bencryption_ has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1] 14:26:04 one thought that i mentioned in the commit comment was to make the effect smaller (radius 1, offset 1), but that seemed less exciting/different... lots of radius 1 effects already (like lrd, most of the time!) 14:26:05 |amethyst: green snark implied that it Just Worked Automagically 14:26:36 |amethyst: ie when looking for ttyrecs it collects all the files from all the sources 14:26:52 another possibility would be to increase the range by 1, which would mean that you wouldn't always have a chance to hit yourself. would make it easier to hit offscreen targets, though 14:27:03 (though still unreliable + noisy) 14:27:17 !ttyrec . 14:27:20 231. johnstein, XL9 DsGl, T:9383: https://termcast.shalott.org/ttyrecs/crawl.berotato.org/ttyrec/johnstein/2016-05-21.08:04:53.ttyrec.bz2 14:27:45 how much do we care about handling offscreen interactions? 14:27:53 handling? 14:28:00 for damaging spells 14:28:03 !ttyrec * cao 14:28:07 2273592. xorpalm, XL12 DrWr, T:27709: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/xorpalm/ 2016-10-16.05:01:23.ttyrec.bz2 2016-10-17.02:53:58.ttyrec.bz2 2016-10-17.02:54:00.ttyrec.bz2 2016-10-17.02:54:03.ttyrec.bz2 2016-10-17.02:54:10.ttyrec.bz2 2016-10-17.02:54:12.ttyrec.bz2 2016-10-17.02:54:20.ttyrec.bz2 2016-10-17.02:54:22.ttyrec.bz2 2016-10-17.02:54:23.ttyrec.bz2 2016-10-17.02:54:24.ttyrec.bz2 2016-10-1... 14:28:18 like, is it something we actively try to avoid? 14:28:19 heh 14:28:36 !ttyrec * cao start<2008 14:28:46 85401. dlundy, XL1 HuWz, T:264: https://termcast.shalott.org/ttyrecs/crawl.akrasiac.org/ttyrec/dlundy/ 2007-12-08.02:17:30.ttyrec.bz2 2008-02-14.21:36:14.ttyrec.bz2 2008-07-08.21:39:31.ttyrec.bz2 14:29:21 !ttyrec * cao start<2012 14:29:23 i feel like we do, since it tends to encourage uninteresting, uninteractive battles with monsters that can't fight back. this was an issue with Singularity. we do allow it with a couple of things - fireball with range boost, fire storm, iirc. 14:29:34 896032. squid, XL7 FeCr, T:7929: https://termcast.shalott.org/ttyrecs/crawl.akrasiac.org/ttyrec/squid/ 2011-05-08.02:05:45.ttyrec.bz2 2011-06-06.06:11:33.ttyrec.bz2 2011-07-16.02:06:39.ttyrec.bz2 2011-08-28.00:18:38.ttyrec.bz2 2011-08-28.05:24:07.ttyrec.bz2 2011-09-01.10:05:00.ttyrec.bz2 2011-09-02.00:39:20.ttyrec.bz2 2011-09-02.00:40:38.ttyrec.bz2 2011-09-02.00:53:46.ttyrec.bz2 2011-09-02.00:54:2... 14:29:44 *we do try to avoid offscreen -ranged attacks 14:29:47 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 14:29:53 nightstalker makes this a bit more complicated 14:30:24 darkness, robe of night, 14:31:15 it's not something we're going to be able to avoid completely without rules changes 14:31:24 anyway I think there's potential there but I'm worried it overlaps with iron shot and LRD 14:31:31 iron shot? 14:31:54 clearly iron shot doesn't hit multiple enemies 14:34:12 anyway, just initial impressions. I'd have to play with the spell to give you real feedback 14:34:18 Were you able to get any clues on the segfault? 14:34:39 i'm bisecting 14:34:49 What is that? 14:34:54 other than the obvious definition of 'bisect' 14:35:32 https://git-scm.com/docs/git-bisect except i'm not bothering to use the actual command 14:35:47 oh, neat command 14:35:49 ya 14:36:01 man, I feel like I learn a new thing git does every week 14:36:03 basically i'm isolating the commit that caused the crash 14:36:29 -!- thrig has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:38:23 re ttyrecs, my guess was that it checked locally, then looked on the correct server/version and copied that locally (where it would be reused if someone !tv-d it again) 14:38:55 the ttyrecs for a single game can be spread around multiple servers 14:38:58 -!- insecticide has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:38:58 er 14:39:05 Brannock: 654362011379964784fc5b2ba60b51f12c23d4df doesn't actually do anything? 14:39:20 happens after I rsync then to shalott 14:39:44 PleasingFungus, I began working on save compat, was tired and got confused about what I needed to do, pushed commit to come back to it later, then forgot about it 14:39:45 so maybe that's what happens locally on term cast 14:39:48 it doesn't do anything right now, no 14:39:50 nice 14:40:17 this whole branch has been my bane for the past month and i suppose I should have asked for help longer ago 14:41:20 i can no longer reproduce the segfault 14:41:22 hope that helps 14:41:42 well then 14:41:50 no, i just needed to wipe out my cache when testing 14:42:00 time to restart the bisect 14:42:06 thanks for helping out. 14:43:07 between working on Punk and acid dragons I found that the Crawl codebase doesn't really handle corrosion very well 14:43:19 There's a bunch of special cases everywhere instead of it being under a specific resistance 14:43:56 It checks for you.res_corr but then I think somewhere else it also checks "Is the player wearing a ring of rCorr?" 14:44:02 I'd have to dig back into the code again to remember the specifics 14:44:28 -!- Guest13836 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:44:37 !source res_corr 14:44:38 1/3. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/actor.cc#L213 14:45:08 that's not a bug 14:45:18 !source player::res_corr 14:45:19 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/player.cc#L1521 14:45:22 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 14:45:38 that's inheritance 14:45:46 Right, of course 14:46:41 I might need to rethink 613a82d entirely then 14:48:33 %git 613a82d 14:48:33 07Brannock02 * 0.19-a0-1940-g613a82d: Give rCorr to acid dragon scales 10(12 days ago, 7 files, 21+ 11-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/613a82dbbc4b 14:48:47 yes 14:48:58 that looks like it's an infinite recursion 14:49:05 any time that you're not wearing rcorr armour 14:49:37 player_res_acid() calls player::res_corr() calls actor::res_corr() calls... 14:50:05 no wonder it crashed when I was testing it 14:50:41 :) 14:50:49 yeah I'll throw that commit out and redo it 14:53:19 -!- Shinino_ is now known as Shinino 14:55:36 i think the map loading issue may be the same crash 14:55:42 well throwing that commit out (and the unfinished save compat issue) fixed the segfault 14:55:48 mystery solved I guess 14:55:54 it's from either 613a82dbbc4bcf58f08b7fbc6766d660a818e5ef or 1d5570543004c8b471cfb15734b460606d48df84, and i suspect the former 14:55:56 ya 14:56:26 what's weird is I was able to get 613a2d working to get the crash when res_acid is called, then a few days later it just segfaults on loading 14:57:07 it probably wasn't rebuilding the des cache the first time 14:57:10 -!- harambe has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:57:20 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 14:57:21 The build failed. (draconian-refocus - 14b1804 #7030 : Nicholas Feinberg): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/170858748 14:57:21 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 15:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:03:33 -!- wasd64 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:08:24 03PleasingFungus02 07[shrapnel] * 0.19-a0-1938-g5638281: New spell: Reckless Fragmentation (L7 Conj/Earth) 10(18 hours ago, 12 files, 120+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/56382811fb6e 15:08:44 this is a very strange emotion I'm experiencing 15:08:49 I'm frustrated and happy at the same time 15:09:00 it was so simple to just add rCorr 15:09:03 once I knew what I was actually doing 15:09:06 haha 15:09:08 sounds right 15:09:11 MarvinPA: one thing i was considering with this spell was the overlap between crystal spear and iron shot - could be a replacement for one of them, maybe 15:11:08 lesson learned: don't try to refactor code at the same time you add features 15:11:18 yep :( 15:11:36 "oh this rCorr code is all over the place, let's fix this" "why isn't this working?" 15:12:10 between LCS and IS I vote to keep LCS 15:12:10 make crystal spear penetrating again plz 15:12:30 beam of spear 15:12:35 though the stone arrow -> iron shot -> crystal spear progression is neat 15:12:36 *bolt of spear 15:12:49 ... so is rockblast -> rapid deconstruction (-> fragmentation) -> shatter 15:13:07 also how does this spell have statue form synergy when statue form reduces all spell damage by 33% 15:13:15 :) 15:13:20 isn't it also an earth enhancer? I forget 15:13:23 no 15:13:35 it has never been an earth enhancer 15:13:35 hm 15:13:44 air walk gave you a negative earth enhancer though 15:13:54 you mean flighT? 15:14:03 i could swear there was something about people recasting a form to immediately get more duration... maybe that was just necromut? 15:14:03 no, i mean air walk 15:14:09 that's necromut yeah 15:14:10 but i thought it was statue 15:14:14 h m m 15:14:31 well i wouldnt be surprised if people did it for statue form since people think statue form does a lot of things it doesn't 15:14:34 c.f. this conversation 15:14:49 and think it doesn't do a lot of things it does 15:16:33 Brannock: air walk was an ancient form 15:16:34 what is/was air walk? 15:16:39 good psychic answer 15:16:56 a good spell 15:16:59 ??air walk 15:17:00 air walk[1/2]: Air elemental form spell; was L9 Tm/Air, removed long ago. Made you drop your whole inventory. 15:17:07 i guess it wasn't in linley's? 15:17:09 ??air walk[2 15:17:10 air walk[2/2]: it halved regen, eliminated hungering (but not nutrition costs), rF-- rC-- rElec++ rPois, earth dehancer, _no_ air enhancer ("was too good"), forced AC to 20, +20 EV, +8 DEX 15:17:17 wow 15:17:33 Balance Above All Else -- stone soup devs, probably 15:17:40 -!- mcfailface has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:18:09 minmay: did you have any thoughts other than the statue form nit? 15:18:14 wrt hypothetical newspell 15:19:37 did air walk give you a speed boost like air elemental form in nethack or something? it doesn't seem strong enough to be a L9 dual-school 15:20:33 i mean, do you really need to ask further questions about the logic behind air walk balance after seeing the first entry :P 15:21:05 yes, i must know all about all things 15:21:08 I assume it existed at the same time orb of zot being droppable was 15:21:12 these entries don't actually mention flight 15:21:36 -!- THERetroGamerNY has quit [Quit: Be Blessed!] 15:22:14 PleasingFungus: i cant see myself ever actually casting it without vehumet (it seems less useful than self-LRD as gr/statue otherwise) but other than that i guess not 15:22:51 I almost think it needs to do something more, but apparently it's already on the complex complex. Something very silly like stagger monsters or shift their positions by a tile if they're struck. 15:22:54 tbh i still want mass LRD spell 15:22:58 shatter? 15:23:07 stone of tremors 15:23:09 :v 15:23:11 shatter is not that much like mass lrd 15:23:21 neither of those are like mass LRD at all though 15:23:51 oh, do you want it to also explode lrd vulnerable monsters 15:24:15 that's not really important but it should since it's mass LRD 15:24:31 good FR 15:25:02 the motivation of mass LRD spell is 1. it's mechanically simple because LRD already exists, 2. it creates an unusual positioning gimmick (you want to be away from walls yet have monsters close to walls) 15:25:20 3. it would be hilarious on green crystal vaults:5 15:25:26 true 15:26:06 there is some overlap with shatter in that you make your terrain worse in exchange for damage but in practice that doesnt matter much with shatter so im not too concerned (also lrd probably shouldn't destroy walls) 15:27:10 could be a fun consumable... or an evocable... 15:27:13 an xp evocable... 15:27:15 stone of tremors did promote having monsters near walls, but it was also really confusing and terrible and almost never worth its effect on terrain 15:27:21 yeah 15:28:15 LRDing every LRDable thing in LOS would be much more understandable and predictable 15:28:42 What's the best way to transform a player race into another race using tags.cc? for draconian save compat stuff (player mottled -> yellow) 15:29:00 AXED_MONS() should handle monster mottleds 15:29:07 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest69267 15:29:32 i wonder if stone of tremors would've had a better chance of surviving if we'd removed the summons from most of the evocables sooner 15:30:16 part of its problem was that it hurt basically any ally you'd get, including its own creations (when you could stack them) or other evocables' 15:30:24 Brannock: i don't think we've ever done something like that before! 15:30:32 -!- Guest69267 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:30:35 it doesn't seem like it, no 15:30:38 usually we just let people keep playing their current race until we end save compat 15:30:46 seems pretty unnecessary yeah 15:30:48 That'd be fine in this case, but I removed sticky flame breath 15:30:50 744 15:30:55 so mottled dracos will be gimped 15:31:02 ^ cat on keyboard, or chmod? 15:31:28 can just ifdef it out instead of removing it 15:31:33 and I don't feel like going back and adding 34 tags to everything, especially all the function conditions 15:31:50 give .em .red drac breath 15:32:01 Oh, not a bad workaround 15:32:02 yeah, a parting gift 15:32:20 %git f35bf84 15:32:20 07Brannock02 * 0.19-a0-1936-gf35bf84: Remove ABIL_BREATHE_STICKY_FLAME 10(4 weeks ago, 12 files, 9+ 84-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f35bf84257e2 15:32:26 ^ is why 34'ing all of that is more trouble than it's worth 15:33:08 honestly: 15:33:10 you should 34 it 15:33:35 but as long as. 15:33:36 i mean we still have lava orcs ifdef'd 15:33:38 It'd be a lot of duplicated code for the function conditions 15:33:45 it's nothing compared to those 15:33:48 yeah 15:33:50 or lots of other things 15:37:29 i'm sure dynast would be happy to have mottled draconian 34 15:38:15 ^ cat on keyboard, or chmod? 15:38:22 are you saying 744 is gonna be next god's name 15:38:37 haha 15:39:38 my cat is a big numpad fan. 15:39:52 minmay, why Dynast in particular? 15:40:25 another problem with 34 for sticky flame breath is I repurposed a lot of the sticky flame breath for the new acid splash breath 15:40:33 s/flame breath/flame breath code/ 15:41:21 %git 59ed7dc0 15:41:21 Could not find commit 59ed7dc0 (git returned 128) 15:41:30 %git 59e7dc0 15:41:30 07Brannock02 * 0.19-a0-1937-g59e7dc0: Rework draconian acid breath 10(3 weeks ago, 13 files, 79+ 38-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/59e7dc02e733 15:43:34 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:46:40 1910 is dead code there i think? 15:47:01 possibly, it didn't seem to come up when I was testing 15:47:07 lemme remove it and see what happens 15:47:45 no, not dead code 15:48:11 in need of refactoring though I think? 15:50:21 -!- Kenran has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:51:27 as far as i can see the switch at line 1869 never gets reached in the first place for ABIL_BREATHE_ACID (since the commit explicitly removes that possibility) 15:51:36 maybe i'm missing something 15:51:42 Ingame when I breathe acid I get the "huge globs" line 15:51:50 sure 15:51:53 Which shows up somehwere else I see now 15:51:57 at 1844 15:52:02 that's caused previously, yes 15:52:28 oh, good comment on the crawl-ancient AIR_WALK code: 15:52:35 if (you.attribute[ATTR_TRANSFORMATION] == TRAN_AIR) 15:52:36 re += 2; // mutliple levels currently meaningless 15:53:09 hm, this suggests that the flat 20 ac in that entry is wrong... might've been right earlier, or later, maybe 15:53:14 (also "huge globs" as opposed to "a glob" or "a huge glob" is very wrong-sounding to me) 15:53:15 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 15:53:16 The build passed. 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