00:00:02 lol 00:00:02 hellmonk: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 00:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00:05 !messages 00:00:06 (1/1) checkers said (12s ago): ok 00:00:26 oh, I forgot to remove the bucher command 00:00:32 let me do that real quick 00:00:53 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:01:56 -!- aaaafaaaaaa has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:05:51 -!- tspigot has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:09:48 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:10:50 gammafunk, I'm still confident cao should be OK, but I need to wait for |amethyst to take care of a few things on the server I can't do, or grant me access to do them. 00:10:57 (your daily update) 00:11:17 when is the tourney start date btw 00:11:37 We're planning to enter feature freeze for 0.19 on the 17th, with a release and tournament a few weeks afterward. If you've got anything you urgently want in the release, probably want to act soon :) 00:12:06 gammafunk: any luck finding a japanese translator? 00:12:17 checkers: yes, and it's translated 00:12:20 dplusplus did it 00:12:23 let me get the link 00:12:44 oh wow 00:12:47 kimnosuk 00:12:55 sent me some great cwz art we missed! 00:12:58 just one, but it's v. good 00:14:07 http://imgur.com/CZapNOk 00:15:06 checkers: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/12XaVEylqxtZb0sJoNYTeXej9jueqIFSkp6MhFgoABAE/edit?usp=sharing 00:15:11 you should have collab on that 00:15:30 I need to reply and thank dplusplus, but also mention that he could add better websites for jp players 00:15:37 like we did for the korean one 00:16:06 I guess we could get other languages as well 00:16:14 I'm sure most on cue and cxc can speak english well though 00:17:03 !tell PleasingFungus For the art blog, a FeFE by Xotto (from CWZ): http://imgur.com/CZapNOk 00:17:04 gammafunk: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 00:17:26 hmm, the stabbing code uses a deprecated stepdown function 00:17:46 !source attack.cc:1841 00:17:46 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/attack.cc#L1841 00:18:16 change it after the tournament? 00:19:22 -!- Tiktalik has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:19:38 that's a change that could go in now, if the gameplay consequence is small or nonexistant 00:19:42 but I haven't looked 00:20:19 We're not super strict on freeze, you can make gameplay-related changes if it's clear that they're a good idea 00:20:32 The idea is to prevent adding new content that might have bugs 00:20:57 And large refactoring projects that might introduce bugs are likewise good to hold until after t 00:21:25 yeah I'll wait till after the tournament then 00:21:27 -!- destroythecore has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:21:35 looks like there are a few files that use stepdown_value 00:22:57 gammafunk: wow 00:23:10 gammafunk, sexy cat 00:23:24 ??cxc[2 00:23:24 cXc[2/2]: Announced by Eksell, which uses | as a prefix. Morgues, ttyrecs etc. are at http://CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM/crawl/. Maintained by Medar and zkyp. 00:23:31 !seen medar 00:23:31 I last saw Medar at Mon Oct 24 23:44:28 2016 UTC (4h 39m 3s ago) joining the channel. 00:23:55 Medar: do you know if any CXCers don't speak english? 00:25:02 rast: should have said hot cat 00:25:07 gammafunk: once the release date is locked in it would be nice to let all server admins know in advance so we can put a lobby banner link to the release post / survey 00:25:25 yeah, that will be part of the tournament-related setup 00:25:32 we'll mention that 00:25:35 I was going to ask though 00:25:51 checkers: is the primary means of distributing the survey going to be lobby page? 00:25:59 I guess we should include something prominent on the tournament page as well? 00:26:10 and can do a wordpress post 00:26:27 and mention in any reddit/tavern posts 00:31:14 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.19-a0-1932-g59670f6 (34) 00:34:47 -!- Cimanyd has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:35:42 gammafunk: I believe there are a few methods planned: 1) in-game mention (like for tourney) 2) blog post 3) server admin lobby update 4) reddit x-post 5) other forum x-posts 00:35:55 not sure if anyone has thought about 1 in detail yet 00:36:16 specfically, if it will be annoying to ask people every time they start a new game to complete the survey, and if so, how to not do this 00:36:17 ahaha at last... my mission is complete 00:36:34 REMOVE BUTCHER remove butcher 00:36:37 hellmonk: update? 00:36:40 yeah 00:36:53 -!- johlstei has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:37:25 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 00:38:17 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 00:38:23 done 00:38:48 trap ""reform,"" <-- hahaha 00:40:01 -!- Lasty has quit [Client Quit] 00:41:20 it's really easy to make them automatically reveal but I thought that was too much of a player buff so I'm gonna actually try to remove them all 00:42:12 please remove them all but re-add shadow traps 00:42:46 my story w/ shadow traps is going fedhas and being in swamp and having a friendly thorn hunter repeatedly trigger a shadow trap on swamp 5 00:42:50 fuck shadow traps 00:43:30 maybe if I'm feeling cheeky I'll add a chance to shaft or do a zot effect that increases with turns spent on the floor 00:43:43 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 00:43:54 the problem is that that's a nonzero amount of effort 00:44:29 there was literally nothing better than enemy shadow trap monsters stepping on the shadow trap 00:44:50 just need to make the shadow monsters all spectral and with no HD 00:44:56 @??spectral orc warrior 00:44:56 spectral orc warrior (03Z) | Spd: 10 | HD: 4 | HP: 20-28 | AC/EV: 2/8 | Dam: 413(drain) | 07undead, evil, see invisible, fly, unbreathing | Res: 13magic(immune), 02cold, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm, 04napalm | Vul: 08cleanse++ | XP: 34 | Sz: Medium | Int: brainless. 00:44:59 @??orc warrior 00:44:59 orc warrior (08o) | Spd: 10 | HD: 4 | HP: 21-33 | AC/EV: 9/10 | Dam: 20 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter | Res: 06magic(20) | XP: 132 | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 00:45:10 i guess that would really make Ne sad though 00:45:17 -!- zxc_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:45:31 -!- zxc has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:45:32 hellmonk should have a blog post where I can read about features in the next alpha 00:45:43 lol 00:46:04 just look at every cyc thread that's about a game feature and gets more than 20 posts 00:46:05 like adding a food system and lengthening branches and new monsters like worms 00:46:11 stuff that would get me excited to play 00:46:16 lollllll 00:46:55 i'm the hero tavern deserves 00:47:05 every removal they ever asked for 00:47:08 but at what cost 00:47:19 honestly you should cut a lot of gods 00:47:33 I should cut dd so I can cut /hw 00:47:38 oh 00:47:40 you can keep dd 00:47:50 just add a self-heal thing that's like, xp gated or something 00:47:53 hellmonk, will you re-add epic_bug[13] 00:47:55 "Add" 00:48:07 we 00:48:07 ??epic_bug[13 00:48:07 epic bug ~ epic bugs[13/27]: The orc calls on the powers of darkness! The orc convulses! The orc wizard convulses! The orc convulses! x2 Your body is wracked with pain! 00:48:08 er 00:48:11 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 00:48:14 we've actually talked about a DD reform like that 00:48:39 I mean that I'm not gonna spend time coding that shit 00:48:57 hellmonk: just leave dd as is, see how many players take on the DD challenge 00:48:58 well it's not hard to add something like this 00:49:03 the hard part by far is the design 00:49:06 please explain epic bug 13. Orcs get a tormentor spellbook? 00:49:14 oh no that was 00:49:19 random monsters getting random spells 00:49:28 part of monster spellcasting reform 00:49:37 good bug 00:49:37 haha 00:49:39 orcs casting fireball and stuff 00:49:43 hellfire kobolds sound like a good idea 00:49:49 ??dd challenge 00:49:50 bat challenge[1/2]: Die to a bat as a deep dwarf. 00:49:55 ??dd challenge[2 00:49:55 bat challenge[2/2]: No, berserk doesn't work. And inner flame is cheating. Forms don't work either! 00:49:55 ...on d:1 00:50:06 zerk doesn't work? 00:50:13 @??bat 00:50:13 bat (15b) | Spd: 30 | HD: 1 | HP: 3-4 | AC/EV: 1/14 | Dam: 1 | see invisible, fly | Res: 08blind | XP: 1 | Sz: tiny | Int: animal. 00:50:21 desperate healing 00:50:40 !lg * dd killer=bat 00:50:41 ??damage shaving 00:50:42 deep dwarf[2/4]: Damage shaved = 1d(1+1d(1+XL/3)). Damage shaving affects just about everything, including poison and torment, and even damnation! 00:50:42 4. Tridious the Covered (L1 DDFi), blasted by a bat (exploding inner flame) (hexed by the player character) on D:1 on 2016-03-15 01:18:12, with 7 points after 356 turns and 0:04:01. 00:50:48 !lg * dd killer=bat -2 00:50:49 3/4. deathrave the Digger (L2 DDEE), blasted by a bat (exploding inner flame) (hexed by the player character) on D:1 on 2015-01-30 18:14:53, with 22 points after 673 turns and 0:01:52. 00:50:52 !lg * dd killer=bat -3 00:50:53 2/4. Ned the Practitioner (L5 DDHe of Elyvilon), blasted by a bat (exploding inner flame) (hexed by the player character) on D:6 on 2014-09-11 04:19:55, with 232 points after 1952 turns and 0:06:13. 00:50:53 ?/hellfire 00:50:54 Matching terms (5): hellfire, hellfire_arbalest, hellfire_burst, hellfire_crossbow, hellfire_resistance; entries (34): azrael[1] | azrael[2] | brimstone_fiend[1] | butterfly[1] | clouds[7] | damnation_arbalest[1] | deep_elf_sorcerer[1] | dispater[1] | draconian_zealot[1] | ds_mutation_rules[4] | ebcrawl[1] | falling[2] | flaming_crossbow[1] | guru_wisdom[16] | hell_sentinel[1] | hellbinder[1] | he... 00:50:55 !lg * dd killer=bat -4 00:50:56 1/4. SquareLord the Shield-Bearer (L8 DDFi of Qazlal), blasted by a bat (exploding inner flame) (hexed by the player character) on D:6 on 2014-08-13 16:32:36, with 1045 points after 4439 turns and 0:11:51. 00:50:59 ??clouds[7 00:50:59 clouds[7/7]: Fire/magma running into freezing cloud | cold running into flaming cloud deletes the cloud and decreases range by 5. Water/fountains create steam when fired over by fire/magma/hellfire, freezing cloud when fired over by sufficiently strong (xdy, x*y>35) cold. (Note cold excludes throw icicle.) 00:51:01 hm, is dd challenge actually possible? 00:51:02 no one's won the challenge yet... 00:51:08 since damage shaving min shave is 1 00:51:09 how about might other spell? 00:51:19 is that true still about damnation? 00:51:19 yeah, i guess you could might them 00:51:29 might other has restrictions on who it's cast on 00:51:29 PleasingFungus: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 00:51:32 I think if zerk doesn't work might won't either 00:51:44 I'm assuming the 50% damage increase rounds down 00:51:46 wearing amulet of harm + zekred bat? idk 00:51:55 oh yeah, maybe with harm it's possible 00:52:05 tricky 00:52:13 kimnosuk said he's put a disclaimer on the site where artists have been posting their art 00:52:18 that asks for them to grant permission 00:52:24 so hopefully from now on we'll have that 00:52:33 and I asked him to forward any good art he sees 00:53:12 !lg * killer=bat s=sdam 00:53:12 fr: give deep dorf an xp gated ability to polymorph an enemy into a mighted bat 00:53:13 36449 games for * (killer=bat): 34523x 1, 1535x 2, 25x 24, 23x 3, 22x 27, 21x 25, 21x 18, 19x 29, 18x 31, 17x 26, 17x 20, 17x 22, 15x 21, 15x 33, 13x 35, 13x 23, 13x 19, 13x 17, 12x 34, 10x 30, 10x 28, 9x 32, 9x 14, 8x 16, 7x 38, 6x 11, 5x 15, 4x 37, 4x 10, 3x 13, 3x 39, 3x 9, 3x 40, 2x 36, 2x 42, 2x 49, 6, 5, 51, 45, 52, 8, 12 00:53:19 checkers: any issues seen with the JP translation of the survey (aside from the website think I mentioned) 00:53:23 !lg * killer=bat sdam=2 x=sdam 00:53:24 1535. [sdam=2] Chloverfield the Digger (L1 GrEE), slain by a bat on D:1 on 2016-10-24 22:41:14, with 6 points after 228 turns and 0:00:59. 00:53:27 going to reply to dplusplus about that 00:53:40 zerk and harm isn't working 00:53:46 someone give me more ideas 00:53:52 i didn't even bother gtranslating it, so all I can say is it looks fully translated 00:53:59 polymorph 00:54:11 do dd in forms lose shaving? 00:54:12 polymorph the bat into an adder, get red poison, then poly it back into a bat 00:54:37 i'm told that "forms don't count" 00:54:46 per the challenge 00:54:51 oh yes 00:55:31 can a 0 damage hit proc deterioration? 00:55:52 if a monster gets force lanced into you, do you take damage 00:55:55 hrm 00:56:14 i guess a pan lord could theoretically force lance a bat into you 00:56:24 !seen Brannock 00:56:24 I last saw Brannock at Mon Oct 24 06:30:57 2016 UTC (22h 25m 27s ago) saying 'I'm curious what your ultimate goal is with hellcrawl' on ##crawl-dev. 00:56:24 I think that would technically count 00:56:31 sup? 00:56:32 or perhaps a chunk from iood? Could that hurt you? Or is that special cased for grand finale 00:56:35 does summon small mammals spell power affect bat HD 00:56:39 and damage 00:56:43 wondering about the tournament rules 00:56:48 shit, I forgot about these 00:56:51 I fell into the Civ 6 pit 00:56:51 if we want banner changes, since some of us are here 00:56:55 wow 00:57:00 playing other games besides DCSS? 00:57:01 lol 00:57:07 I'm sorry that we're going to have to revoke your commit rights 00:57:09 game needs a big patch so I'll work on crawl this week 00:57:15 he wasn't using them anyway... 00:57:21 Brannock: did you hear about the gold/hammers exploit 00:57:27 i was reading about that and it cracks me up 00:57:38 selling 1/3 builders for gold or selling scythian duplicates for gold? 00:57:41 exploit? 00:57:44 are we talking about yiuf hammers here 00:57:50 so pakellas banner needs to be removed, and new banners for hep/uska need to be added 00:57:51 is this why they were removed 00:57:55 Brannock: latter 00:57:56 I'm hoping for a UI patch 00:58:03 checkers: when d oyou need them by 00:58:07 Rules for 0.18: http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.18/ 00:58:15 I don't know that we need any scoring changes 00:58:17 CanOfWorms: i'm not doing tourney, Brannock is (I guess) 00:58:26 oh 00:58:27 we made some tweaks last time...hrm 00:58:27 civ 6 designers could have benefited a lot from having roguelike nerds playtest their game 00:58:32 those are listed on that page as New 00:58:40 er 00:58:42 well I can get the graphics done by the end of the week 00:59:18 oh 00:59:26 there wasn't nuthin' cept pak's banner 00:59:54 sad! 00:59:56 new banners for hep/usk I thought 00:59:57 unless people see a problem with the current rules, it'd just be the banners 01:00:02 speaking of which, are hep/usk figured out yet 01:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:00:02 I'm vastly behidn the times 01:00:18 I think PF approved of Pak->Hep? 01:00:21 their bannerc challenges 01:00:30 This is a bit off the wall: Hepliabanana believes in remembering, and even reliving, the past. Tier 1) Reach Lair using a species/background/god combination that was available in dcss 0.10; Tier 2) Get a rune Tier 3) Win the game 01:00:31 possibly with a rename/retheme 01:00:56 that sounds pretty bad 01:01:04 too meta 01:01:14 pak's banner is easy to reflavour as hep 01:01:19 yes, but it doesn't have to be 01:01:25 probably we should keep a faded altar banner 01:01:37 since that's kind of a "fun thing" you can do 01:01:59 checkers: feels kind of self-indulgent 01:02:10 ??nostalgia[wallow 01:02:10 nostalgia[3/4]: Nostalgia is a feeling that one should shake off, not wallow in. 01:02:13 especially since 80% of those choices were in 0.10 anyway 01:02:15 We don't actually have to have these rules finalized before the announce, just to be clear 01:02:24 PleasingFungus: you're the one who created a memory god! 01:02:31 god of selective memory 01:02:33 dang, dpeg has no remorse 01:02:33 :) 01:02:36 uska banner should be to lair/rune/win while playing on a ddr pad 01:02:49 I was thinking uska could be something about movement 01:02:52 dancing... 01:03:10 victory dancing.... 01:03:18 stair dancing 01:03:23 make it about ranged reform 01:03:26 and amulets of harm 01:03:35 and juggernauts 01:03:45 balance 01:04:14 i'm still very fond of the earlier suggestion 01:04:22 we once again run into the issue of "new god means new banner" 01:04:23 usk likes it when you move about. 1) reach 10 tloc skill 2) win a game with tloc as your highest skill 3) win a game with the plane walker title 01:04:24 what was that? 01:04:24 how about something to do with fifteenskills? Win a game with a weapon, spell school and invo/evo >15 01:04:30 temple in 5k turns/elf:3 in 9k/geh:$ in 27k 01:04:49 speedrunning is good. Why geh? 01:04:50 those seem like fun challenges, to me 01:04:53 totally arbitrary 01:05:02 yeah, are those at all similar to existing turncount things? 01:05:05 i think someone else suggested geh and i ran with it 01:05:10 geh is arbitrarily harder to get to than coc/dis/tar because of damnation/fireball 01:05:10 i don't think elf or geh are 01:05:14 !lm * current br.end=geh x=avg(turn) 01:05:15 2801 milestones for * (current br.end=geh): avg(turn)=92488.91 01:05:25 dis is the hardest hell, but it's less Evocative, maybe 01:05:25 conqueror is a win in 50k 01:05:27 there aren't really any specifically turncount banners. just a few turncount tiers 01:05:28 for 3 01:05:36 yeah, but going to geh is probably not part of that 01:05:47 yeah I was just listing it 01:05:48 it's not similar, but is turncount 01:05:48 could just go like "7th rune" or something 01:05:49 if we add geh, can we call the banner Disco Inferno 01:05:51 looking at pakellas banner 01:05:53 !lm * current br.end=geh / turn<27000 01:05:54 23/2801 milestones for * (current br.end=geh): N=23/2801 (0.82%) 01:05:55 I agree it's fine for hep 01:05:55 but yeah doesn't seem like it conflicts too much 01:05:56 what do you think PF? 01:05:56 CanOfWorms: absolutely 01:06:06 "remember a god from the forgotten altar" 01:06:13 f/orgotten/aded 01:06:15 disco inferno could be 01:06:17 sorry, what do I think about what? 01:06:21 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 01:06:30 pak -> hep banner 01:06:37 hrm 01:06:38 1) enter the volcano branch 2) win a Fire Elementalist 3) reach Geh:$ in 27k turns 01:06:40 http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.18/ 01:06:53 i like ecu altar banner 01:06:54 elf:3 in 9k is so easy but hey 01:06:55 *volcano portal 01:06:57 they don't all have to be hard 01:07:08 hm. a portal banner? Enter 1/5/9 portal types? 01:07:22 would have to be over the course of the t 01:07:24 too out of player control 01:07:33 well we have a similar kind of thing 01:07:34 "explore all portal types" could be neat though 01:07:35 with uniques 01:07:35 no more out of player control than 'kill every unique' 01:07:40 gammafunk: also we'd ban formicid, i forgot 01:07:43 yeah but with uniques it's over tounrament course 01:07:48 not in a single game 01:07:50 yeah, good idea 01:07:53 oh, def over a single game 01:07:58 def not 01:08:24 portal idea is viable, but it's kind of... 01:08:31 I mean you can enter a portal and just exit immediately 01:08:39 "Hepliakqana wants you to remember all the corners of the Dungeon. Explore 1/5/9 Portals" 01:08:43 do we track portal exit? 01:08:45 gammafunk: you think elf:3 in 9k is too easy for a banner? 01:08:50 a tier 2 banner* 01:08:55 elf3 in 9 is hectic 01:09:06 you could track turns in portals. "spend at least 100 turns in 1/3/5 portals" 01:09:06 PleasingFungus: uh, well, I mean it'd be very simple for me or any speedrunner to do but it's only T2 01:09:16 my intuition was "tier 1 should be easy, tier 2 should be challenging, tier 3 should be too spooky for me" 01:09:23 it will lead to some fun player splats for those who are brave but inexperienced 01:09:32 yes, t2 is not really supposed to be a mega challenge for you lunatics 01:09:36 right, geh:$ is pretty spoopy 01:09:38 well elf3 in 9 if you're aiming *specifically* for elf3 in 9 and not caring if you win on that run is probably not too hard 01:10:11 27k would be a kind of horror that only purplered and 4tharra would not blink at 01:10:11 in a 'burn all your teleports to get the cheevo' way yes even i might be able to do it 01:10:11 haha 01:10:22 of course you don't need the other runes, and people doing it will thus have an easier time 01:10:27 but yeah seems reasonable 01:10:31 !lg 4tharraofdagon 01:10:32 12618. 4thArraOfDagon the Grappler (L10 TrNe of Dithmenos), shot by a centaur (arrow) on D:13 on 2016-10-09 20:35:59, with 6516 points after 3673 turns and 0:17:47. 01:10:34 !lg 4tharraofdagon salt 01:10:35 3. 4thArraOfDagon the Grappler (L15 TrGl of Nemelex Xobeh), mangled by a saltling in Desolation (desolation_of_salt; desolation_ruin_lobes) on 2016-08-29 20:27:49, with 86453 points after 10451 turns and 1:00:56. 01:10:35 tier 3: vaults in 9000 01:10:39 wow, three salt deaths already 01:10:53 I feel like salt loot is slightly undertuned for the risk level 01:10:53 nem troll, good 01:10:53 !lg * salt s=name 01:10:54 230 games for * (salt): 5x miz, 4x Amnesiac, 4x TimeCube, 4x Siku, 4x Iwannabefree, 3x igooo, 3x 4thArraOfDagon, 3x herbaltea, 3x Pearldrake, 3x ooparts, 2x nok, 2x koboldina, 2x qazz3000, 2x cerealjynx, 2x rogsnak, 2x orecros, 2x xerion567, 2x AFentropy, 2x nublet, 2x mistain, 2x Lightli, 2x klsh78012, 2x asdf6746, 2x hulk, 2x TySteely, 2x NowD, 2x rbrb, 2x st0uf, 2x magenar, 2x doptimist, 2x eld... 01:10:59 but it's not enough for me to make a strong argument about it 01:11:02 haha 01:11:10 !lg . salt 01:11:11 1. brannock the Severer (L21 DsEn of Cheibriados), blasted by a halazid warlock (ghostly fireball) in Desolation (desolation_of_salt) on 2016-10-19 19:21:13, with 351302 points after 43755 turns and 1:44:22. 01:11:15 lightli... 01:11:18 !gamesby miz 01:11:19 miz has played 1565 games, between 2014-10-17 02:01:19 and 2016-10-24 08:42:43, won 8 (0.5%), high score 21301854, total score 150982284, total turns 8967362, play-time/day 0:45:19, total time 23d+6:14:33. 01:11:43 !lg . salt 01:11:44 checkers: we track portal exits, yeah...er 01:11:44 1. chequers the Grappler (L13 TrTm of Ru), demolished by a saltling in Desolation (desolation_of_salt) on 2016-08-27 05:03:20, with 33188 points after 15491 turns and 0:50:26. 01:11:47 hrm 01:11:51 !lm * br.exit icecv 01:11:51 probably a mistake to enter at xl13 01:11:53 2641. [2016-10-25 04:11:17] 0nlyNaCj the Basher (L14 FoFi of Qazlal) left the Lair of Beasts on turn 15341. (Lair:6) 01:11:54 I think salt has enough robustness to be a full branch though 01:11:58 guess not 01:12:00 with 2-3 additional monsters 01:12:09 !log . won 01:12:10 19. chequers, XL27 TrMo, T:70887: https://crawl.project357.org/morgue/chequers/morgue-chequers-20161017-124422.txt 01:12:11 no other branch really works the way it does 01:12:12 not much reason I suppose, since the exit for portals is right at entrance 01:12:25 !lg . won x=gid 01:12:26 19. [game_key=chequers:cpo:20160917044820S] chequers the Wrestler (L27 TrMo of Makhleb), escaped with the Orb and 4 runes on 2016-10-17 12:44:22, with 2350617 points after 70887 turns and 2:49:55. 01:12:35 !lm chequers gid=chequers:cpo:20160917044820S icecv 01:12:36 1. [2016-10-17 05:03:15] chequers the Grappler (L11 TrMo of Hepliaklqana) entered an Ice Cave on turn 7997. (Lair:1) 01:12:50 lets add a milestone for exiting a portal! 01:12:55 then we can have this banner! 01:13:23 Spiteful 3 is ... 01:13:24 Cruel 01:13:26 it wouldn't help the problem though! 01:13:28 III: Win a game in which you become the champion of Ru and then abandon Ru before entering any branches other than the Temple and the Lair. 01:13:33 since you just enter the portal, exit 01:13:39 Did we get anyone who did that in 0.18t? 01:13:46 I mean, it's sort of "can you make it to the portal in time" 01:13:54 which is not much of a banner 01:14:04 i guess a lot of ice caves have scary things at the start, but most others give you breathing room 01:14:19 some are scary-ish, but yeah they don't really fit the bill imo 01:14:22 now I'm remembering discussion about adding a 'won the portal' milestone, and how to measure such a thing 01:14:23 I wonder what wonderful clan names we'll get out of 0.19t 01:14:31 Ban Blowguns - End Needles Violence 01:14:33 is one of my favorites 01:14:58 As is Hellfire Cant Melt Steel Golems 01:14:59 we have a few in reserved_clan_names, but I'm sure competition will be stiff this time 01:15:05 that's an old one! 01:15:09 That one's 0.16 01:15:19 (it was my clan) 01:15:25 oh, thought you were listing potential 0.19 ones 01:15:43 Uskaying Alive 01:15:54 brannock: I think yermak got all the 0.18 banners? 01:15:58 Brannock: i'm definitely down for more banners, btw. either replacing old/boring ones or unlinking gods from banners 01:16:13 Quokka Flokka Flame 01:16:14 if you want to implement any of the other ideas we were talking about, like the portal banner 01:16:21 !tell Lasty PF has proposed an Usk banner of 1) Reach Temple in 5k 2) Reach Elf:3 in 9k and 3) Reach Geh:$ in 27k, thoughts? 01:16:22 gammafunk: OK, I'll let lasty know. 01:16:27 PleasingFungus: what about just doing 3k for Temple? 01:16:37 !tell lasty also no formicids (anti-ant racism is VERY real) 01:16:37 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let lasty know. 01:16:37 not like it's much harder 01:16:39 PleasingFungus, I'd be happy to, limited by my Perl knowledge (0%) 01:16:54 But I tend to pick up basics quickly 01:16:59 gammafunk: no strong opinion. i guess it's more aesthetic 01:17:04 and still easier than the elf 01:17:09 !lm . br.enter=temple min=turn 01:17:10 3k is too average It hink 01:17:13 Yeah, slightly more challenge yet still very easy 01:17:23 right, the first tier was meant to be relatively free 01:17:26 Brannock: t1 banner! 01:17:29 does anyone else besides |amethyst have sudo access on cao? 01:17:33 !lm . temple min=turn 01:17:34 384. [2015-06-04 23:07:50] chequers the Chopper (L4 MiGl) entered the Ecumenical Temple on turn 411. (D:4) 01:17:35 620. [2015-06-04 23:07:50] chequers the Chopper (L4 MiGl) entered the Ecumenical Temple on turn 411. (D:4) 01:17:37 I don't think so, johnstein 01:17:42 aside from r.ax herself 01:17:49