00:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00:21 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.19-a0-1922-g1e9a4c1 (34) 00:01:19 !learn del patashu 00:01:20 Deleted patashu[1/1]: see {dongtrain} 00:19:04 ??dongtrain 00:19:04 I don't have a page labeled dongtrain in my learndb. 00:19:32 ?/badwiki 00:19:32 Matching terms (2): badwiki, badwiki_gham_guide; entries (4): eocrawl[2] | gham[1] | gham_guide[1] | splint_mail[3] 00:19:35 ??badwiki 00:19:35 wiki[2/3]: Wiki for players: http://crawl.chaosforge.org/. Incorrect or out of date, request an account and get to updating! Unfortunately you're not allowed to correct bad advice. 00:19:39 !learn del badwiki 00:19:39 Deleted badwiki[1/1]: see {wiki[2]} 00:19:42 ??splint mail 00:19:42 splint mail[1/3]: +8 ac -5 ev. doesnt exist but its okay because it wasnt very good 00:19:46 ??splint mail[2 00:19:46 splint mail[2/3]: was actually good sometimes though 00:19:47 ??splint mail[3 00:19:47 badwiki gham guide[1/1]: THE ULTYMATE RESISTANCES OF THE GHOUL COMBINED WITH POWYRFUL CLAW ATTACKS + RANGED SUPERIORITY FROM OF THE ARKANE MARKSPERSON MAKES THE GHAM THE POWER CLASS OF 0.8, 0.10, AND 0.11. GO FOR SPLINT MAIL FOR MAXIMUM PROTECTION + FLEXIBILITY // - THIS GUIDE BY SLAUGHTRO POWER CRAWLMASTER X 00:25:00 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:25:41 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:26:14 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:26:45 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 00:27:53 don't touch the gham guide 00:29:04 ??eocrawl 00:29:04 eocrawl[1/3]: get rid of: (by priority) labs. (by alphabet) badforms beogh extended felids gold good wands meph profane halls sirens temple tso conducts. 00:29:24 ??eocrawl[2 00:29:24 eocrawl[2/3]: (already removed) badwiki blade chaos butterflies forest gloom Grunt hammers killer bee larvae nemelex deck selection pan racial items rogue gallery rotswamp secret doors supmoths tavern translucent green crystal warwick von hugsford. 00:32:47 johnstein: you're working on moving some ttyrec things from CAO to shallot.org? 00:34:03 gammafunk: yea. hoping to try to start tonight 00:34:15 johnstein: is that all you plan to do with CAO for the time being? 00:34:23 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: magistern] 00:34:23 looks like the CAO scoring is updating 00:34:58 according to |amethyst's research above the ttyrecs go back to 2012. and it looks like the oldest files on shalott in the cao folder are also 2012 00:34:58 I'm trying to get a sense of what we should do for the t announcment, which would be good to make early next week 00:35:44 I might be able to help out with updating and General maintenence 00:36:08 yeah, but to your knowledge we don't have a resolution on CAO for the tournament (in terms of games)? 00:36:42 basically need to figure out how to make sure that people go over to cjr appropriately so that cbro doesn't get overwhelmed 00:37:18 I wonder if I could persuade zibudo to disable some of those special cjr things for at least the tournament 00:38:32 -!- rchandra has joined ##crawl-dev 00:39:12 gammafunk, thought the issue was space. after I move the ttyrecs over, doesn't that resolve the blocking issue? 00:39:30 johnstein: if that will free up enough long term, I suppose so? 00:39:33 (I may not be fully aware of the entire situation) 00:39:36 yea it should 00:39:39 there's a TON of ttyrecs 00:39:53 that's good to hear, at least 00:40:10 I won't make any claims until you've had a chance to try that 00:40:14 I'll know more within the next few hours 00:40:36 we're just getting close to when we'll have to announce with "CAO is down and we're not sure if it will be available for tournament" 00:41:12 if it's entirely a space issue and the blocking issue was not having an account to get them to shalott, then that feels super solvable. I'll send you a status update tonight on how doable it feels 00:41:19 but I'm feeling quite optimistic 00:41:31 johnstein: cool, and we don't have to announce right on monday, but of course the sooner we know the better 00:41:52 oh no, you drank a potion of optimism! 00:42:51 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:43:17 -!- ManMan has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:43:20 -!- destroythecore has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:44:52 -!- nikitamog has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 00:51:07 gammafunk, ttyrecs are easily the biggest files a server deals with. there was a summary per year mentioned earlier... couple hundred GB of low hanging fruit 00:58:36 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:01:38 !tell wheals I've had a few people ask already about an rc option to disable mouse support, since if you click back into the game from e.g. chat or anywhere, you're likely to cause some unwanted movement 01:01:39 gammafunk: OK, I'll let wheals know. 01:03:10 -!- ahahaha has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:03:18 yay. got the ssh keys set up. cbro->cao->shalott 01:03:23 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:03:32 geekosaur: I wonder how bad it would be if we had webtiles playback where we had to store the json files for playback 01:03:45 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 01:03:50 ttyrecs are highly compressable at least 01:03:58 yeah, the json would be as well 01:04:01 json would be highly compressible too, yeh 01:04:09 someone posted their webtiles replay recording system on /r/dcss 01:04:12 that runs into a big technical issue of having to have the client and the tilesheet to do playback 01:04:24 yeah, zxc asked me about it, but that's not a practical way to do it on server 01:04:41 it was based on saving PNGs, so probably will be larger than ttyrecs even with intelligence 01:04:48 yea. you'd have to either save every single tilesheet, or use some frog DNA to fill-in/guess when things didn't line up? 01:04:50 ewww 01:04:58 i think json converted to a binary protocol would be quite efficient 01:05:14 binary protocal? 01:05:20 how about the protocal is just "zip" 01:05:22 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:05:32 I mean json is just a protocol itself 01:05:52 the issue is needing to have the client/js and the tilesheets to do anything with that protocol 01:05:52 bson exists... 01:06:06 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 01:06:06 so maybe it's just not a great approach 01:06:33 I think AAA games that have playback do use a system like this though, only record the actual input? 01:06:59 starcraft uses such a system 01:07:06 as does a lot of multiplayer 01:07:24 input, random seed. and someone needs to make sure the seed is enough to be 100% reproducible... 01:07:42 right, that's actually very different than recording json 01:07:52 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 01:07:55 since by json I'm talking what crawl gives back 01:08:27 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:09:09 input and seed probably also needs all rc/macro files (which might be multiple layers with include) 01:09:36 -!- Lasty has quit [Client Quit] 01:11:09 and a binary of the current version, which could start to add up on trunk 01:12:00 mm, right. I think that;s only viable for stable 01:13:19 tbh it'd probably be ok to have the footv server be capable of automatically archiving the js and tilesheets of each commited version 01:14:23 those would add up over time 01:15:20 looks like about 6mb of png each version, and that's without the pngcrush 01:15:58 a lot less if you have it be smart about seeing that there's no change from version N-1 01:16:36 apparently on cbro, I have git-prompt set up, but I can't find a git-prompt.sh on my system. is there a way to get that to work without that file? 01:17:41 dunno if what I'm asking even makes sense. I had to Do Some Stuff to get __git_ps1 to work in my command line prompt. seems like that's what git-prompt.sh is for, but I can't find anything like that. wondering if anyone has any tips to remind me what I did (hoping this is a super simple thing) 01:19:11 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-1922-g1e9a4c1 (34) 01:23:09 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:32:37 -!- Laraso has quit [Quit: Laraso falls through a shaft! The shaft crumbles and collapses.] 01:38:46 -!- eb_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:45:12 -!- diazepan has quit [Quit: diazepan] 01:55:54 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-1922-g1e9a4c1 01:57:25 -!- rjaguar3 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:58:20 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:04:50 -!- mong has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:08:17 -!- eb_ has quit [] 02:16:03 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 02:17:16 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: magistern] 02:18:31 what's this, zxc saying that harm is ok but innac is the big offender?! 02:22:24 gammafunk: nothing radical about that 02:22:26 its ok, I'll just remove them both 02:22:31 hellcrawl will finally be free 02:22:38 this is in contrast to a previous discussion! 02:22:40 hellmonk: can you remove id game too? 02:22:53 I don't know, haven't looked to see how much work that would be 02:23:07 it's not in contrast 02:26:35 -!- ees has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:28:53 -!- Idolo has quit [] 02:28:54 hellmonk, you should remove removal 02:29:24 -!- protopulse has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:29:43 ??removal 02:29:44 I don't have a page labeled removal in my learndb. 02:29:51 looks like it's already removed to me 02:30:29 I still need to remove poison magic 02:30:36 maybe I'll do that next week 02:30:56 I'm curious what your ultimate goal is with hellcrawl 02:31:59 my design goals are listed in the op 02:32:29 make an incredibly tavern/crawl-irc fork and to incorporate a bunch of dank memes into it 02:37:07 fresh take from 4chan: "This is even more retarded that the main branch." 02:43:52 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:52:30 very naisu 02:53:50 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-1922-g1e9a4c1 02:58:32 -!- bannakaffalatta has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:59:15 -!- hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:03:01 -!- n1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:03:26 -!- n1 has joined ##crawl-dev 03:06:15 hahaha 03:11:43 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:13:28 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.19-a0-1922-g1e9a4c1 (34) 03:13:35 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 03:16:10 -!- Alcopop has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:22:33 sent 47758535 bytes received 247250 bytes 914395.90 bytes/sec 03:22:33 total size is 72950173 speedup is 1.52 03:22:44 that's all ttyrecs from 2009 and before 03:25:33 2006-2009. but that doesn't seem to match what |amethyst said that 200*, 2010, and 2011 was almost 80GB and most of it was 2011. 03:25:45 but I'm fairly confident on what I'm doing here. 03:28:55 1learn famous last words 03:30:51 -!- keszocze has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:31:24 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 03:33:04 -!- adibis has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:38:33 -!- waat has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:40:38 -!- ololoev has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:41:05 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:53:23 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 03:55:06 -!- Lasty has quit [Client Quit] 03:58:58 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 03:59:03 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:02:44 !cmd !ood !iood $* 04:02:44 Defined command: !ood => !iood $* 04:08:46 ??is cao down 04:08:50 3 days, 14 hours, 15 minutes, 26 seconds since last activity (cao) 04:08:56 I'm seeing new ttyrecs being created 04:09:14 and I see some games still running (at 100% CPU). figure these are known issues 04:09:40 -!- omarax has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:10:10 johnstein: didn't r.ax do something to limit new game connections? 04:10:52 gammafunk, I have no clue what's been done 04:11:07 just saying that I see crawl games running at 100% and ttyrecs being created :) 04:11:21 yeah, the lobby doesn't load for me 04:11:27 I don't have sudo access, so I can't do anything about it. I am planning to ping |amethyst with my findings 04:11:34 these look like zombie games 04:11:45 !lm Ziegl0r 04:11:48 3942. [2016-10-13 13:03:36] Ziegl0r the Caller (L7 VpSu of Sif Muna) killed Dowan on turn 4487. (D:5) 04:11:53 !lm Ziegl0r x=src 04:11:54 3942. [2016-10-13 13:03:36] [src=cao] Ziegl0r the Caller (L7 VpSu of Sif Muna) killed Dowan on turn 4487. (D:5) 04:12:22 that player has two crawl processes going. samve version 04:13:03 -rw-r--r-- 1 games games 0 Oct 24 01:04 Ziegl0r.dglwhere 04:13:04 -rw-r--r-- 1 games games 0 Oct 24 01:04 2016-10-24.08:04:08.ttyrec 04:13:04 -rw-r--r-- 1 games games 0 Oct 24 01:03 2016-10-24.08:03:38.ttyrec 04:13:04 -rw-r--r-- 1 games games 0 Oct 24 01:03 2016-10-24.08:03:37.ttyrec 04:13:04 -rw-r--r-- 1 games games 0 Oct 24 00:53 Ziegl0r.where 04:13:04 -rw-r--r-- 1 games games 0 Oct 24 00:53 2016-10-24.07:53:40.ttyrec 04:13:13 yep, still cooking up ttyrecs 04:13:17 neat 04:16:30 -!- rchandra has left ##crawl-dev 04:16:31 -!- Vall has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:20:46 https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/media/math/render/svg/fc38659aa61a78dcdac13dc9dbfd0b456c555682 04:20:59 *throws CS degree in the garbage* 04:25:32 the answer is -i 04:25:43 -i^e/pi 04:28:59 -!- ilyak has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:33:25 gammafunk, I'm still feeling optimistic 04:37:19 !tell |amethyst I think we should run the ttyrec compression before rsyncing. appears to be 2500 or so from pre-2016 that haven't been compressed 04:37:20 johnstein: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 04:37:53 !tell |amethyst next, I think there's a few crawl games running still. ps -ef|grep crawl shows some, as well as top. 100% cpu. they are still creating ttyrecs 04:37:53 johnstein: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 04:38:33 !tell |amethyst once these two things are done, I have a script that I can run to create the list of ttyrecs to rsync. ~3084522 04:38:33 files 04:38:34 johnstein: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 04:40:23 !tell |amethyst if you'd like to see my current progress, /home/johnstein/ttyrec/find2txt.sh finds the files. rsync2shalott.sh shows an example rsync script 04:40:23 johnstein: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 04:50:20 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:56:04 -!- pythonsnake has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 04:56:08 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 04:57:51 -!- Lasty has quit [Client Quit] 04:59:34 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 05:00:02 -!- omarax_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:03:46 -!- Rjs- is now known as Rjs 05:08:38 !tell |amethyst I'm getting about 555GB of ttyrecs according to rsync, which seems about what you estimated. I was going to recommend moving all but 2016 over (assuming that's ok with green.snark). 05:08:38 johnstein: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 05:15:59 -!- cait has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:17:37 !tell |amethyst sorry for the spam. just being clear, I've rsynced the pre-2010 files over, but nothing else. just dry-runs for 2010-and-on. 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(ranged_reform - 0a7bba4 #7007 : Corin Buchanan-Howland): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/170139361 10:39:58 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 10:50:54 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:51:04 -!- TuxQmoob has quit [Changing host] 10:56:17 -!- Tarara is now known as Taraiph 11:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:00:30 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:06:28 03Lasty02 07[ranged_reform] * 0.19-a0-1923-g138b787: Mulch all ammo 10(78 minutes ago, 6 files, 14+ 81-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/138b78722bd7 11:09:15 -!- Yezarul has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:11:20 -!- TuxQmoob has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:13:41 -!- Menche has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:16:55 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:19:26 -!- Morg0th has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:23:55 -!- TuxQmob is now known as Misiek1 11:24:02 -!- Misiek1 is now known as TuxQmoobs 11:43:01 -!- Nomi has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:43:19 -!- xnavy__ is now known as xnavy 11:51:04 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 11:56:21 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 11:56:22 The build was fixed. 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Oops 13:23:09 hm, i came at a good time 13:24:26 Looks like I'll need to dig into how tentacles actually work, huh 13:25:09 Oh wait no duh 13:25:11 -!- zxc has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:25:43 tentacle code is... kind of a can of worms 13:25:51 but it sounds like you already found the problem? 13:26:04 I'm smart. Guess who learned what "genus" & "species" mean in mon-data.h!! 13:26:12 haha 13:26:32 one of crawl's funnier systems 13:26:32 crawl taxonomy! 13:26:47 haxonomy, more like... 13:27:12 -!- miek_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:27:54 int chance = 21; // this is a very old number; no idea why it was chosen 13:28:03 Is this retro 27 13:28:58 lynn: ? 13:29:05 what is a "retro 27"? 13:29:09 oh 13:29:13 no, i think 27 was always 27 13:30:12 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:31:12 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:35:40 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 13:45:51 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 13:46:01 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:47:52 -!- LexAckson_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:49:48 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 13:51:13 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:56:13 -!- Vall has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:01:53 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 14:07:58 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-1923-g9be4e74: Fencer's Gloves: Dex+6 -> +3 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9be4e74cfd83 14:10:49 !tell |amethyst when do you think we should branch/tag? 14:10:50 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 14:13:46 !lg * vlong>=0.19-a0-1498-g0b85ae9 14:13:48 129907. charlessucks the Firebug (L4 DrFE), slain by Robin (a +0 trident) on D:3 on 2016-10-24 18:11:50, with 98 points after 2594 turns and 0:09:59. 14:14:00 !lg * vlong>=0.19-a0-1498-g0b85ae9 ktyp=water 14:14:01 60. Unknown the Hoplite (L18 MiBe of Trog), drowned by a drowned soul (summoned by a merfolk avatar) on Shoals:1 on 2016-10-24 10:17:36, with 243741 points after 49025 turns and 1:50:35. 14:14:09 !lg * vlong>=0.19-a0-1498-g0b85ae9 ktyp=water s=killer 14:14:10 60 games for * (vlong>=0.19-a0-1498-g0b85ae9 ktyp=water): 39x a drowned soul, 12x a water nymph, 9x a water elemental 14:14:20 !lg * vlong>=0.19-a0-1498-g0b85ae9 ktyp=lava s=killer 14:14:21 No games for * (vlong>=0.19-a0-1498-g0b85ae9 ktyp=lava). 14:14:23 hm 14:14:29 !lg * ktyp=lava s=killer 14:14:30 714 games for * (ktyp=lava): 714x 14:14:37 looks good 14:18:47 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-1924-g21f43f3: Penultimate 0.19 changelog tweaks 10(32 seconds ago, 1 file, 6+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/21f43f31e09e 14:19:38 !lg * hep vlong>=0.19-a0-1127-gac58878 / won 14:19:40 84/2583 games for * (hep vlong>=0.19-a0-1127-gac58878): N=84/2583 (3.25%) 14:19:46 !lg * current trunk s=god / won 14:20:00 !lg * current trunk s=god / won o=% 14:20:04 4471/470978 games for * (current trunk): 500/23650x Okawaru [2.11%], 417/35771x Trog [1.17%], 341/8910x Makhleb [3.83%], 325/11700x Cheibriados [2.78%], 317/3954x The Shining One [8.02%], 297/7327x Hepliaklqana [4.05%], 267/10983x Vehumet [2.43%], 261/7690x Gozag [3.39%], 221/6830x Ashenzari [3.24%], 200/7417x Uskayaw [2.70%], 159/5561x Ru [2.86%], 126/4487x Qazlal [2.81%], 124/1251x Zin [9.91%], ... 14:20:23 4471/470978 games for * (current trunk): 124/1251x Zin [9.91%], 317/3954x The Shining One [8.02%], 39/509x Jiyva [7.66%], 98/1715x Pakellas [5.71%], 297/7327x Hepliaklqana [4.05%], 341/8910x Makhleb [3.83%], 261/7690x Gozag [3.39%], 221/6830x Ashenzari [3.24%], 159/5561x Ru [2.86%], 126/4487x Qazlal [2.81%], 325/11700x Cheibriados [2.78%], 200/7417x Uskayaw [2.70%], 26/1021x Elyvilon [2.55%], 59/2... 14:20:33 !lg * current trunk urune<=5 s=god / won o=% 14:20:45 2960/468483 games for * (current trunk urune<=5): 28/492x Jiyva [5.69%], 82/1690x Pakellas [4.85%], 225/7211x Hepliaklqana [3.12%], 173/6747x Ashenzari [2.56%], 175/7564x Gozag [2.31%], 199/8648x Makhleb [2.30%], 25/1102x Zin [2.27%], 52/2336x Yredelemnul [2.23%], 21/1015x Elyvilon [2.07%], 29/1404x Fedhas [2.07%], 108/5472x Ru [1.97%], 42/2147x Nemelex Xobeh [1.96%], 83/4421x Qazlal [1.88%], 440/... 14:21:08 !lm * ancestor.class 14:21:10 5510. [2016-10-24 16:03:31] grandjackal the Fighter (L10 HOFi of Hepliaklqana) remembered their ancestor Virgo as a hexer on turn 8876. (D:7) 14:21:13 !lm * ancestor.class s=noun 14:21:15 5510 milestones for * (ancestor.class): 24x battlemage, 23x remembered their ancestor Servia as a hexer., 21x knight, 21x remembered their ancestor Zolin as a knight., 20x remembered their ancestor Xiuhtonal as a hexer., 19x remembered their ancestor Citlalmina as a hexer., 18x remembered their ancestor Xochipepe as a hexer., 18x hexer, 17x remembered their ancestor Cuetlachtli as a hexer., 17x re... 14:21:18 hrm 14:21:28 !lm * ancestor.class / noun~~hexer 14:21:29 2270/5510 milestones for * (ancestor.class): N=2270/5510 (41.20%) 14:21:34 !lm * ancestor.class / noun~~knight 14:21:35 1963/5510 milestones for * (ancestor.class): N=1963/5510 (35.63%) 14:21:50 !lm * ancestor.class vlong>=0.19-a0-1127-gac58878 / noun~~knight 14:21:59 626/1787 milestones for * (ancestor.class vlong>=0.19-a0-1127-gac58878): N=626/1787 (35.03%) 14:22:02 !lm * ancestor.class vlong>=0.19-a0-1127-gac58878 / noun~~hexer 14:22:06 760/1787 milestones for * (ancestor.class vlong>=0.19-a0-1127-gac58878): N=760/1787 (42.53%) 14:22:11 heh 14:22:35 @??battlemage hd:6 14:22:35 battlemage (11R) | Spd: 10 | HD: 6 | HP: 1 | AC/EV: 3/10 | Dam: 18 | 11non-living, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster, see invisible, fly, regen, unbreathing | Res: 06magic(40), 05fire, 02cold, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm, 04napalm | XP: 8 | Sp: throw frost (3d6), stone arrow (3d9) | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 14:22:39 @??battlemage hd:4 14:22:39 battlemage (11R) | Spd: 10 | HD: 4 | HP: 1 | AC/EV: 2/10 | Dam: 14 | 11non-living, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster, see invisible, fly, regen, unbreathing | Res: 06magic(26), 05fire, 02cold, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm, 04napalm | XP: 3 | Sp: throw frost (3d5), stone arrow (3d7) | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 14:24:32 -!- Vall has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:29:10 Man, I thought goldifying ammo would be easier than giving launchers their own slot, but man, it's a big can of worms. Thanks ammo brands and quivers. 14:29:19 Getting me some good millimarvins tho 14:29:49 haha 14:35:52 -!- Kranix has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:42:55 -!- Kranix has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:43:15 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:48:34 -!- Awod has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:55:53 -!- FunkyBomb has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:56:16 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-1925-gae7261f: Add more info on mon spells in debug mode 10(27 minutes ago, 2 files, 8+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ae7261f0dfae 14:56:16 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-1926-gd7ada34: Fix display for monsters with variant spell HD 10(18 minutes ago, 5 files, 19+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d7ada34d2abf 14:56:16 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-1927-g24d37aa: Add Nemelex to the changelog (regret-index) 10(25 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/24d37aaa1f41 14:56:22 -!- scummos__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:58:24 -!- Zxpr1jk has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:58:48 wow massive balance changes during feature freeze 14:59:07 how will we playtest fencer's gloves in time! 15:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:00:25 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-1928-g3941b7a: Remove status effect cures from Idealise 10(63 seconds ago, 2 files, 5+ 21-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3941b7aae112 15:00:39 -!- insecticide has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:00:52 i wouldn't say that drowning removal and the new spells qualify as highlights, compared to the other things/previous version highlights sections 15:01:18 especially drowning removal i guess, feels an odd thing to single out 15:02:23 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-1929-gc9712f4: Cut ancestor cast freq from 40 -> 25 10(79 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c9712f40bc6d 15:02:42 drowning removal felt big to me, but maybe that was more from a developer's perspective 15:02:48 as a long-term Design Peeve 15:02:59 rather than something that had a major impact on gameplay 15:03:17 wrt the spells, previous versions' highlights included things like "new item: sack of spiders" 15:04:09 but maybe you're right? I guess that one is more of "the exception that proves the rule" 15:04:23 that one seems a bit weird to me too, yeah :P 15:04:35 also, we used to have changelog entries for bugfix releases, apparently 15:04:38 wild 15:05:11 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-1930-gebf9562: Remove some changelog highlights (MarvinPA) 10(20 seconds ago, 1 file, 0+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ebf956298d9e 15:05:23 MarvinPA: i'm contemplating bumping beckoning from L3 to L5 15:05:30 not sure if it's actually OP or just meme tier 15:05:32 sort of funny in that the main release changelogs mostly don't mention bugs 15:06:08 yeah 15:06:50 hmm, i've not used it but i thought the power cap change was probably a good one, increasing the level doesn't make a huge difference in terms of using it at high power though 15:07:01 and high power is when i would've thought it was more of a concern maybe? 15:07:48 not sure. i guess the concern is maybe that it's a "no-brainer" (<- meme), and requiring more investment to get it running at all makes it more of a "strategic choice"? 15:08:12 probably i'll leave it be for this release 15:08:28 it can be the meleebug for this tournament :) 15:09:12 !lm * ancestor.class vlong>=0.19-a0-1127-gac58878 noun~~hexer / won 15:09:13 36/760 milestones for * (ancestor.class vlong>=0.19-a0-1127-gac58878 noun~~hexer): N=36/760 (4.74%) 15:09:18 !lm * ancestor.class vlong>=0.19-a0-1127-gac58878 noun~~knight / won 15:09:19 21/626 milestones for * (ancestor.class vlong>=0.19-a0-1127-gac58878 noun~~knight): N=21/626 (3.35%) 15:09:20 i guess my suggestion would be something more like capping the max range a bit lower even at high power, raising the level could probably also be fine though 15:09:20 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-1927-g24d37aa (34) 15:09:23 !lm * ancestor.class vlong>=0.19-a0-1127-gac58878 noun~~battlemage / won 15:09:24 25/402 milestones for * (ancestor.class vlong>=0.19-a0-1127-gac58878 noun~~battlemage): N=25/402 (6.22%) 15:09:27 heh 15:09:29 sample size 15:09:34 or l4 with a lower max range or whatever 15:09:47 ah, hadn't thought of lowering the max range 15:10:03 do you think it needs another nerf, then? 15:10:46 not sure, my knowledge about it is just theory plus way over-the-top reddit/tavern posts :P 15:10:57 incredible chei^na tech 15:11:02 er... or the other way around 15:11:38 -!- removeelyvilon_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:11:46 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:12:48 i think having the max range be a bit lower than full-los would maybe be good either way though 15:12:55 Did Lesser Beckoning and Infestation get removed? 15:13:01 what? 15:13:03 no 15:13:14 they just aren't considered "highlight-worthy" 15:13:28 the RIP confused me 15:13:39 oops 15:14:12 maybe 2-5 with a lower power cap again or something 15:14:20 -!- LexAckson__ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:15:16 oh, i was thinking 2-6 with 200 power cap 15:15:34 although i suppose even as-is probably you're not likely to actually hit los range, yeah 15:15:57 72 int and 27 in all skills doesn't get you there right now 15:16:10 archmage robe gets you to 198... which apparently rounds to full range? 15:16:42 -!- removeelyvilon_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:17:27 unrelated (going through my 0.19 final issues list) - someone was saying that it was unclear now that gozag prevents dragon scale drops, since you don't have to butcher corpses for it. 15:17:38 (even though they do only come along with corpses.) 15:17:42 -!- Bammboo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:17:43 yeah, i was comparing to lightning bolt mentally but that gets around it by having greater than los max range 15:17:49 heh 15:18:03 also, more enhancers 15:18:24 -!- LexAckson_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:18:27 anyway yeah, 2-6 with a 200 power cap sounds pretty reasonable to me, basically there's a billion variables to tweak which is nice 15:18:42 -!- LexAckson__ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:19:00 i wonder if people are really casting it at max power 15:19:12 i think you'd need two enhancers to do it in practice, even with cheistats and max skills 15:19:21 and getting two enhancers for a pure tloc spell is a little tricky 15:19:46 every chei naga wears ocpa and the hat of the high council! 15:20:12 lol 15:20:42 idk, i guess i've talked myself back into leaving it be for now 15:20:44 which actually reminded me that i'm not a huge fan of the high council hat in that it does the same thing as ocpa but in a less cool way 15:21:03 i think having less than los max range is good, but i think in practice the spell pretty much does have less than los max range 15:21:34 high council hat and ring of the mage are not super exciting 15:21:45 -!- Kranix has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:21:58 PleasingFungus: IMO buff gozag by letting dragon scales drop 15:22:17 the theme cost!!! 15:22:18 ring of the mage gets by on being old and simple and cute imo! but yeah true 15:22:25 also, randart power creep has overtaken it :( 15:22:30 lol 15:22:34 is high council hat not old? 15:22:53 it's pretty recent, a grunt-ism from a few version ago i think 15:22:59 huh 15:23:13 it is pretty grunty 15:23:19 it originally had contam too i think 15:23:24 sounds right 15:23:45 0.14 apparently 15:24:03 -!- hpm_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:24:21 hyperbolic: i was thinking about letting scales drop, but i do like the tradeoff (as relatively niche as it is), and i'm not sure it solves any theme/intuition problems; if anything, i'm sure we'd get loads of bug reports from people asking "how are scales appearing from a dragon that turned into gold?" 15:24:31 so definitely recent compared to ring of the mage, which has been around as long as i can remember 15:24:37 well, maybe not 'loads', but some 15:25:04 i think you could definitely argue for scales dropping (as if they're special weird armour or whatever) 15:25:55 -!- removeelyvilon has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:26:07 although i suppose dancing weapons are sort of similar and those turn into gold 15:29:33 -!- Kranix has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:32:45 -!- Dracunos-m is now known as removeellimists 15:33:09 PleasingFungus: well, that is probably true... and if it is true, then I'm sure those loads of people who would have bug reported the scales will be happy to explain to other people why gozag blocks scales :P 15:33:46 :) 15:35:15 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:36:02 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-1931-gf4bb0bd: Reduce Hepliaklqanal piety gain 10(79 seconds ago, 2 files, 8+ 8-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f4bb0bdfa425 15:37:33 -!- eb_mobile has quit [Quit: I quit] 15:39:24 -!- Vall has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:41:16 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:42:08 -!- eb_mobile has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:43:06 possibly should've reduced ability piety costs further... lame when people think the god is a purely passive god 15:43:58 -!- AngelaSmythe has 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at line 554: mid cache bogosity: mid 7479 points to macabre mass mindex=26 mid=7565 (Abyss:3) 17:50:37 SaintRoka (L27 DDGl) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 554: mid cache bogosity: mid 7735 points to elephant mindex=9 mid=7750 (Abyss:3) 17:51:19 -!- sneakyness has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 17:53:39 -!- removeellimists has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:58:04 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Quit: I like to rock] 17:58:38 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:59:21 -!- sneakyness has joined ##crawl-dev 18:00:07 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:00:48 -!- Dracunos-m has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:01:57 -!- removeelyvilon_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:02:09 -!- keszocze has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:07:24 -!- beef42 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:09:40 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:10:07 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:13:32 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-1932-g59670f6: Display Hep's transfer radius at 5* 10(89 seconds ago, 3 files, 5+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/59670f6dc4ba 18:15:49 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.19-a0-1931-gf4bb0bd (34) 18:25:04 -!- Dracunos7 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:30:34 -!- destrovel_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:35:09 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 18:35:45 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:37:38 c9712f4 PleasingFungus Cut ancestor cast freq from 40 -> 25 <-- jeez 18:38:33 -!- eb_ has quit [] 18:39:52 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: magistern] 18:42:23 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:42:49 -!- Ququman has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:42:50 !lg chequers hep / won 18:42:51 1/15 games for chequers (hep): N=1/15 (6.67%) 18:43:08 !lg chequers xl>=17 hep / won 18:43:08 1/1 game for chequers (xl>=17 hep): N=1/1 (100.00%) 18:43:13 wow, not even one splat 18:43:17 clearly a nerf was needed 18:48:18 i think it was 18:48:23 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:48:44 imo the problem is that ancestor power is more closely linked to xl than piety 18:48:57 in lategame, I consider hep average to weak 18:49:40 but you hit this massive power spike immediately after classing the ancestor and piety-based power increases from then on are just icing 18:51:16 !tell pleasingfungus my suggestions: increase the duration of draining from transferance, move the class selection up a star, require a minimum piety for ancestors to use better skills (eg ****** for haste to be available), in exchange for some cast frequency back 18:51:16 checkers: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 18:53:34 so basically i should go hef my FeTm before CBRO is updated? ;) 18:53:49 s/hef/hep/ 18:57:01 -!- Dracunos has joined ##crawl-dev 18:57:46 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:58:49 -!- Dracunos-m has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:00:02 -!- omarax has quit 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PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 19:50:28 -!- Wah has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:01:37 -!- cmcbot has quit [Excess Flood] 20:03:25 -!- Vall has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:09:45 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 20:09:49 -!- AcidShell has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:17:38 ??test 20:17:38 test[1/41]: blaargh blaargh blaargh blaargh blaargh 20:19:10 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:20:19 @??goblin 20:21:06 @??goblin 20:21:07 -!- Gretell has joined ##crawl-dev 20:21:11 @??goblin 20:21:14 goblin (15g) | Spd: 10 | HD: 1 | HP: 3-5 | AC/EV: 0/12 | Dam: 4 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors | XP: 1 | Sz: small | Int: human. 20:23:27 -!- Guest77937 has quit [Changing host] 20:23:27 -!- Guest77937 has joined ##crawl-dev 20:23:29 -!- Guest77937 is now known as bh 20:27:18 -!- Guest99453 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:28:05 -!- Amadiro has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:28:11 -!- pantaril has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:38:50 -!- Zxpr1jk has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:45:36 -!- Spheniscine has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:53:14 -!- ilyak has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:58:09 -!- meatpath has joined ##crawl-dev 20:59:21 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:00:03 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 21:03:39 -!- nikheizen has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:10:52 -!- jefus- has joined ##crawl-dev 21:14:13 -!- jeefus has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:19:18 the connexion between ash skill boost and item type isn't at all obvious in game 21:19:26 even when using ?/ and friends 21:31:45 -!- debo_ has joined ##crawl-dev 21:32:08 -!- debo_ is now known as Guest96680 21:36:59 -!- Guest96680 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:38:18 -!- adibis has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:39:45 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:41:04 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:42:46 -!- ees has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:45:24 is connexion like the cool way to say connection 21:45:24 -!- MakMorn has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:46:28 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 21:48:46 ^vps 21:48:46 CBRO disk usage=68% | RAM usage=42% | uptime/CPU= 21:48:46 up 711 days, 7:07, 11 users, load average: 1.15, 1.42, 1.60 21:49:11 !lg * cbro month s=day(start) -graph 21:49:13 36199 games for * (cbro month): https://shalott.org/graphs/8e23550ddcc29df18208d831e8b0beba8c6db5ea.html 21:49:19 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:49:55 !lg * cbro month s=day(start) -graph start>20160901 21:49:57 36106 games for * (cbro month start>20160901): https://shalott.org/graphs/1262b0e7cb6fd37c6a4f4e5973840cbede3f23e1.html 21:50:19 big growth 21:50:23 uh 21:50:29 the sept stuff doesn't look right 21:50:36 !kw month 21:50:37 Keyword: month => end>${now()-interval('31d')} 21:50:54 !lg * cbro s=day(start) -graph start>20160901 21:50:56 55075 games for * (cbro start>20160901): https://shalott.org/graphs/ef1a2aef0d0aa1bda9d5ee526f4c2bfdeaa3cfad.html 21:50:57 it's interaction between start/end times not being the same for games 21:51:13 !lg * ((cbro||cao)) s=day(start) -graph start>20160901 21:51:15 99014 games for * (((cbro || cao)) start>20160901): https://shalott.org/graphs/6c5ea6ea39dc473153af97e736d395a0220c1e3d.html 21:51:16 !lg * s=day(start) -graph start>20160901 s=src 21:51:17 Too many grouping terms (extra: s=src) 21:51:26 !lg * s=src,day(start) -graph start>20160901 21:51:26 !lg * ((cbro||cao)) s=day(start),src -graph start>20160901 21:51:27 236934 games for * (start>20160901): https://shalott.org/graphs/9497bcd3a40bd9417bddaedf58bc03d47c87fb5f.html 21:51:29 99016 games for * (((cbro || cao)) start>20160901): https://shalott.org/graphs/a57cde357ab2ef715ed262892ef701ee366516cd.html 21:51:46 !lg * ((cbro||cao)) s=src,day(start) -graph start>20160901 21:51:48 99016 games for * (((cbro || cao)) start>20160901): https://shalott.org/graphs/5b00c0cad58196dc1ae975d6d381dc0594dd3622.html 21:51:51 !lg * s=day(start),src -graph start>20160901 21:51:52 236934 games for * (start>20160901): https://shalott.org/graphs/5885c5efa0d63e6abdcd30ebb6b230d3c3715cc9.html 21:52:11 !lg cpo s=day(start) -graph start>20160901 21:52:12 No games for cpo (start>20160901). 21:52:16 !lg * cpo s=day(start) -graph start>20160901 21:52:17 6206 games for * (cpo start>20160901): https://shalott.org/graphs/bbf8b5c076ec0c9f518ca2af5dca10850e2efe31.html 21:52:29 !lg * s=day(start),src -graph:area start>20160901 21:52:30 236934 games for * (start>20160901): https://shalott.org/graphs/37bfef17423ccc42bc33cb91aca9034a8c6269bf.html 21:52:54 !lg * s=month(start),src -graph start>20150101 21:52:59 2463805 games for * (start>20150101): https://shalott.org/graphs/ac364df62d060a84fe26acd93b94b618cf5e87e0.html 21:53:24 !lg * s=week(start),src -graph:area start>20160901 21:53:25 236941 games for * (start>20160901): https://shalott.org/graphs/c19f52400e932990b5c221d9ec705c1801d7965b.html 21:53:51 !lg * s=week(start),src -graph:area start>20160601 21:53:52 looks like cue picked up the most new users 21:53:53 629982 games for * (start>20160601): https://shalott.org/graphs/7631b5f5695cf07a12edae931d05abf6aea14a65.html 21:54:02 actually, a tie between cue and cbro 21:54:18 !kw t 21:54:19 Built-in: t => start>='2016-05-06 20:00:00' time<'2016-05-22 20:00:00' cv=0.18 explbr= 21:54:28 !lg * s=week(start),src -graph:area start>20160101 21:54:31 1242262 games for * (start>20160101): https://shalott.org/graphs/72a97e4567362bf1956b13171d9b94583ff37f1b.html 21:54:52 yea, cbro is seeing tourney level number of games it seems 21:54:59 wow, cwz is popular 21:55:11 ??cwz 21:55:11 cwz[1/6]: Crawl server (webtiles-only) located in Korea; the server admin goes by hong on irc. http://webzook.net:8080/ 21:55:15 yea 21:55:40 !lg * s=week(start) -graph:area start>20160101 21:55:42 1242266 games for * (start>20160101): https://shalott.org/graphs/a69d8d76a2e4044c6abf351044b9a0063b234fc7.html 21:55:53 !lg * s=week(start) -graph:area start>20100101 21:55:58 5836185 games for * (start>20100101): https://shalott.org/graphs/1c55f19439d789a2abd9fa21280b915cc8fa9117.html 21:56:09 I sent |amethyst a verbose to-do list, but I think I can get cao ready this week 21:56:13 good growth 21:56:35 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 21:56:47 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 22:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:00:07 reddit advice: Ru is strong, just don't sac hand or anything crazy like that. 22:01:37 haha 22:01:37 PleasingFungus: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 22:04:22 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 22:06:48 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 22:07:36 -!- hellmonk has joined ##crawl-dev 22:08:03 -!- tmass has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:11:28 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 22:12:09 -!- tspigot has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:13:01 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 49.0.2/20161019084923]] 22:13:34 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:14:22 amalloy: that sounds pretty accurate 22:18:29 just don't do anything crazy like *the sound of vociferous arguing over which ru sacrifices count as "crazy" drowns out the rest of this sentence* 22:26:29 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 22:31:27 -!- _Jordan_ has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 22:31:52 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:31:53 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:33:33 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:33:43 -!- marmot has quit [Client Quit] 22:40:16 -!- TuxQmoobs has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:44:56 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 22:46:03 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:47:18 -!- meatpath has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:54:48 ^vps 22:54:48 CBRO disk usage=69% | RAM usage=54% | uptime/CPU= 22:54:48 up 711 days, 8:13, 11 users, load average: 1.41, 1.62, 1.61 22:59:02 !tell lasty you need to warn me when you're online so I don't accidentally talk about what's imbal 22:59:03 Rast-: OK, I'll let lasty know. 22:59:40 !tell lasty ps vamp brand is fine and nothing need to be changed about it, especially not how it interacts with axes or slaying increases 22:59:41 Rast-: OK, I'll let lasty know. 23:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:09:31 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 23:13:25 -!- Stendarr has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:14:48 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 23:15:23 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 23:16:26 -!- Lasty has quit [Client Quit] 23:34:50 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: magistern] 23:37:03 -!- Awod has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:40:21 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:52:38 !tell checkers please update hellcrawl at your earliest convenience 23:52:38 hellmonk: OK, I'll let checkers know. 23:54:14 has food been added to that fork yet? I keep waiting for it 23:54:25 Maybe that's in the next content update 23:56:19 -!- Rast- is now known as rast 23:57:10 ""adding"" 23:57:21 very well memed indeed 23:59:53 !tell hellmonk ok 23:59:53 checkers: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 23:59:54 checkers: OK, I'll let hellmonk know.