00:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:01:16 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 00:01:55 does gozag make amulet of the gormand useless? 00:01:55 chequers: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 00:01:58 -!- rchandra has joined ##crawl-dev 00:01:58 it's not marked as such 00:02:27 <|amethyst> %git 9cfb7c0 00:02:27 07|amethyst02 * 0.15-a0-2164-g9cfb7c0: Revert "Mark gourmand useless for Gozag worshippers (#8801)." 10(2 years, 3 months ago, 1 file, 1+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9cfb7c0eb8a3 00:02:28 |amethyst: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 00:05:27 dang, is that really worth it? 00:05:30 vault generated corpses? 00:05:43 <|amethyst> worth it? 00:05:52 !tell pleasingfungus gozag worshippers seem to be able to get dragon armours now 00:05:52 chequers: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 00:05:52 daily reminder to remove gourmand and food 00:05:54 |amethyst: worth it to not mark as useless 00:07:26 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 00:07:34 -!- meatpath has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:09:15 if an item has a use it probably shouldnt be marked useless 00:10:44 -!- HellTiger_NB has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:12:05 <|amethyst> BTW, I think the SCR_FOG uselessness check shoul dhave temp && 00:12:09 <|amethyst> s/l dh/ld h/ 00:12:56 <|amethyst> so that d, doesn't drop all your scrolls of fog 00:13:14 -!- Menche has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:16:14 what makes specifically fog useless anyway? standing in fog? 00:16:33 <|amethyst> @??servant of whispers 00:16:33 servant of whispers (02p) | Spd: 10 | HD: 12 | HP: 64-91 | AC/EV: 3/12 | Dam: 10 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, priest, evil | Res: 06magic(60) | Vul: 08cleanse | XP: 990 | Sp: still winds [11!AM], b.lightning (3d18) [11!AM] | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 00:16:58 <|amethyst> Still Winds prevents clouds from placing on the level 00:17:28 interesting 00:19:50 |amethyst: we're still getting the "Another game is already in progress using this save!" error on cao webtiles stable for awbwrurobin 00:19:50 ProzacElf: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 00:19:58 !messages 00:19:59 (1/1) regret-index said (2h 25m 36s ago): I'm kind of disappointed stone giants only have two volcano kills from the past six days, really 00:20:03 haha 00:20:48 chequers: i had kind of assumed that was an expected consequence of the dragon armor change 00:21:38 -!- ogaz has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:21:50 i wonder if troll leather armour should just be "troll hide" 00:22:09 it's kind of weird for that to be the only "armour" you naturally get 00:22:19 the new troll tile makes them look kinda scaly anyway 00:22:25 could be troll scales 00:22:45 i mean i might've preferred just using hides overall 00:22:46 as a name 00:23:08 tho that would mislead people unaware of the change 00:24:26 or just "troll leather" 00:24:50 i think people will still get that you can wear it without the "armour" part 00:26:36 <|amethyst> ProzacElf: CAO has no free disk space, so I could kill the old process but I doubt you'd actually be able to play 00:28:01 AWBWRuRobin (L18 CeWn) (Lair:3) 00:28:08 -!- Laraso has quit [Quit: Laraso falls through a shaft! The shaft crumbles and collapses.] 00:39:43 ah 00:39:47 ok 00:39:51 thanks anyway 00:41:48 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 00:46:13 MaseCarrigan (L11 HuWz) (Temple) 00:47:20 -!- HellTiger has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 00:48:09 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Client Quit] 00:51:18 DrKe: the players on cwz were suggesting a name change to me as well 00:51:36 troll hide or troll leather 00:51:37 seems fine 00:52:02 the +4 moon troll hide {Spirit, MP+5, MR++} 00:52:02 Rich, Corinthian troll leather (tm) 00:52:22 are those even the stats 00:52:25 ??moon troll 00:52:25 moon troll[1/1]: A monster found only in lehudib's {moon base}. Speed 12 iron troll with more hd and {corrosive bolt}. Always wears {moon troll leather armour} unless this has generated, otherwise artefact {troll leather armour}. 00:52:30 ??moon troll leather armour 00:52:30 moon troll leather armour[1/1]: +4 troll leather armour {Spirit, Regen++ MP+5}. Increases regen twice as much as normal TLA. 00:52:40 no it's Regen++ duh 00:55:56 !learn edit moon troll leather armour[1] s/$/If it hasn't otherwise generated, this armour is always worn by the {moon troll} of the Lehudib's {moon base} wizlab./ 00:55:57 moon troll leather armour[1/1]: +4 troll leather armour {Spirit, Regen++ MP+5}. Increases regen twice as much as normal TLA.If it hasn't otherwise generated, this armour is always worn by the {moon troll} of the Lehudib's {moon base} wizlab. 00:56:23 !learn edit moon_troll_leather_armour[1] s/A.I/A. I/ 00:56:24 moon troll leather armour[1/1]: +4 troll leather armour {Spirit, Regen++ MP+5}. Increases regen twice as much as normal TLA. If it hasn't otherwise generated, this armour is always worn by the {moon troll} of the Lehudib's {moon base} wizlab. 00:56:40 ??wucad mu 00:56:40 wucad mu[1/3]: Unrandart +9 staff, evoke for {channeling} MP but sometimes gives {divination miscast}s. 00:56:44 ??wucad mu[2 00:56:44 channeling[1/1]: Converts food into mana. The staff succeeds (evo+11)/40, 50 hunger, 1d3 MP; Wucad Mu (evo+1)/25, 50 hunger, 1/5 div miscast, otherwise 2+d5+evo/3 MP; Sif power 100-300 hunger, d(2+inv/4) mp. For reference, merely resting will recover 14+maxMP per 600 nutrition, at standard metabolic rates. 00:56:50 ??wucad mu[3 00:56:51 wucad mu's monastery[1/1]: Hell-effect-like spawning of deep troll monks, monstrous demonspawn monks and grey draconian monks, and a OCS called Wucad Mu in the middle. Monks stop spawning when you kill it. Loot: Staff of Wucad Mu, !xp/!benemut, manuals and a Book of Enchantments. 00:57:09 oh, but then we lose the awesome MTLA acronym 00:57:09 -!- MaseCarrigan has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:57:16 mtl is alright though 00:57:16 which also happens to sound like a mass transit authority 00:57:16 we already lost all the FDX acronyms 00:57:24 FDS 00:57:25 PDS 00:58:10 point defense system 00:58:30 heh 00:58:33 After this change, and now that we have moon trolls for real and not as vault defines, we should have vault defines of "Corinthian Trolls" that drop corinthian troll leather 00:58:47 special vault that can appear in shoals 00:59:20 huh 00:59:22 @??moon troll 00:59:23 moon troll (11T) | Spd: 12 | HD: 18 | HP: 85-117 | AC/EV: 20/4 | Dam: 35, 2509(claw), 2509(claw) | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster, see invisible, regen | Res: 06magic(140), 05fire, 02cold, 03poison | XP: 2760 | Sp: b.corrosive (3d21) | Sz: Big | Int: human. 00:59:25 -!- sooheon has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:59:41 man, I guess their base MR plus mtla must make them pretty unhexable 00:59:50 how much does each mr pip add for monsters? 00:59:52 ??mr 00:59:52 magic resistance[1/5]: Magic resistance is the ability to ignore hostile enchantments or some other magic. Player MR comes from XL, Trog's Hand, and items. The most important hostile monster enchantments are confuse, slow, deep elf sorcerer/wizard/ogre mage/Erolcha/Louise banishment, lich/orc sorcerer/great orb of eyes/sphinx paralysis. 00:59:56 ??mr[2 00:59:56 magic resistance[2/5]: Chances of anything resisting a spell are calculated like this: (magic resistance + 100 - the spells power) is compared to ( random2(100) + random2(101) ) and if the random numbers are less the spell is negated. 01:00:00 ??mr[3 01:00:00 magic resistance[3/5]: Monster MR is a property of the monster type and HD. Player MR is XL * racial-multiplier + 40 per item, mutation level, or artefact + of MR, or for being in lichform. Racial factor is 7 for Sp, 6 for purple Dr, Fe and DD, 5 for Na, Mu and VS, 4 for elves, Dg, Vp, Fo and Og, and 3 for everyone else. 01:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:00:21 220 mr 01:00:43 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: leaving] 01:02:15 03johnny002 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/377 * 0.19-a0-1753-g172b3b1: libunix.cc: Manually reverse colors for CHATTR_REVERSE. 10(11 hours ago, 1 file, 8+ 8-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/172b3b162643 01:02:15 03johnny002 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/377 * 0.19-a0-1754-gafa4d10: direction_chooser: Don't reverse the target coord when drawing beams. 10(9 hours ago, 1 file, 3+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/afa4d10fc466 01:02:15 03johnny002 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/377 * 0.19-a0-1755-g3d9e987: libunix.cc: Set the screen's attributes in write_char_at(). 10(82 minutes ago, 1 file, 45+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3d9e987d4a9e 01:02:15 03johnny002 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/377 * 0.19-a0-1756-g55aeeb9: libunix.cc: Use wide character curses highlight macros. 10(66 minutes ago, 1 file, 19+ 19-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/55aeeb90c6ab 01:03:24 MTLA doesn't add MR tho 01:03:26 -!- sooheon_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:03:26 i was wrong about that 01:09:24 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:09:25 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:12:51 |amethyst: we are apparently able to play for now at least 01:13:24 <|amethyst> 16 MiB free 01:14:10 <|amethyst> 14 MiB now :) 01:14:15 its a race to get in first 01:16:07 <|amethyst> 27 MiB free, I guess a ttyrec got compressed or someone died :) 01:17:06 how often are old ttyrecs accessed anyway? 01:17:40 probably not as often to justify the hassle :P 01:17:58 <|amethyst> every time someone does !tv 01:18:08 <|amethyst> which seems to be not all that often 01:18:17 I mean for very old versions 01:18:24 pre 0.10, say 01:18:26 !lg * 1 01:18:29 1/6294599. Eidolos the Magician (L1 OMWz), slain by a gnoll (a flail of protection) on D:1 on 2006-12-02 23:47:10, with 20 points after 15 turns and 0:00:04. 01:18:34 !lg * 1 -tv 01:18:36 1/6294599. Eidolos, XL1 OMWz, T:15 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 01:18:39 <|amethyst> every time someone does !tv for an old game 01:18:40 oh it worked 01:18:51 !lg * 1 x=cv 01:18:52 1/6294599. [cv=0.1] Eidolos the Magician (L1 OMWz), slain by a gnoll (a flail of protection) on D:1 on 2006-12-02 23:47:10, with 20 points after 15 turns and 0:00:04. 01:19:05 I wasn't expecting that to work at all 01:19:33 <|amethyst> ?/-tv 01:19:33 Matching entries (465): 78291[3] | abyss_guide[1] | abyss_guide[3] | acid[3] | airstrike[2] | almost_dead[3] | amazing_games[1] | amazing_games[2] | amazing_games[3] | amazing_games[4] | amazing_games[5] | ancient_lich[3] | antaeus[2] | antaeus[3] | apocalypse_crab[2] | apocalypserobin[1] | autoexplore_deaths[4] | autoexplore_deaths[6] | autoexplore_deaths[7] | autoexplore_deaths[15] | autoexplore... 01:26:54 !lg * ntv>20 s=cv o=-cv 01:26:59 159 games for * (ntv>20): 2x 0.2, 7x 0.4, 11x 0.5, 3x 0.6-a, 0.6, 2x 0.7-a, 2x 0.7, 2x 0.8-a, 4x 0.8, 4x 0.9-a, 0.9, 3x 0.10-a, 9x 0.10, 12x 0.11-a, 6x 0.11, 26x 0.12-a, 7x 0.12, 15x 0.13-a, 5x 0.13, 9x 0.14-a, 3x 0.14, 8x 0.15-a, 4x 0.15, 8x 0.16-a, 3x 0.17-a, 0.18, 0.19-a 01:30:09 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 01:48:56 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 01:51:14 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:52:04 -!- _Jordan_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:54:57 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 02:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:08:48 -!- sage1234 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 02:24:43 -!- destroythecore has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:27:10 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:44:29 Olithium (L14 DsMo) ERROR in 'libutil.cc' at line 402: screen write out of bounds: (-36,4) into (43,4) (Orc:2) 02:45:59 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-1886-gd64a0f0 02:46:06 -!- hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:56:52 -!- Menche has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:00:50 -!- Siegurt has joined ##crawl-dev 03:03:10 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:03:39 that's impressive 03:03:51 !lm olithium crash -tv 03:03:52 1. Olithium, XL14 DsMo, T:27010 (milestone) requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 03:05:02 @w0 wat's this? 03:05:23 -!- Siegurt has quit [Client Quit] 03:13:00 -!- hpm_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:14:04 <|amethyst> minmay: leftover autoinscription from the days of Sublimation of Chunks 03:14:37 still a staple inscription for modern hdarc copiers 03:14:47 hdarc? 03:14:51 ??hdarc 03:14:52 hdarc[1/1]: A set of options and functions. It can automatically chop up corpses, exclude uniques, and more. For questions or comments, contact HDA. . To use on CSZO or CAO: include += HilariousDeathArtist.rc then macro ===HDAtravel to the 'o' key. 03:15:04 recommend you use it on CSZO only 03:15:13 aaa 03:16:37 or ahh even 03:17:22 I had to make a frankenstein rc for araganzar 03:17:42 takes parts of gammafunk.rc and hdarc 03:18:19 Totally worth it to see the birth of a new, beautiful child 03:20:28 |amethyst: i was referencing that furry meme thing 03:21:27 the only person in this channel who would know furry memes is you! 03:21:52 lol 03:22:00 -!- kryft_ is now known as kryft 03:22:46 a furry meme as in, a meme about furries, not a meme that is particularly popular among furries 03:23:27 well I don't really know any memes about furries 03:24:14 it originated as something along the lines of "*notices bulge in your pants* OwO wats this~?" and evolved from that. example: http://bouncyenvos.tumblr.com/post/147160036700 03:25:16 the most succinct form of the meme is when someone just says "OwO wats this" and i couldnt help but notice, for the first time, that the @w0 autoinscription looks very similar to OwO 03:25:25 do you still have to turn corpses into mushrooms to get fedhas piety? 03:25:38 %git :/minmay 03:25:39 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.19-a0-1862-gf0d375d: Make Fedhas appreciate all corpse decay (minmay) 10(1 year, 7 months ago, 4 files, 14+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f0d375d61b4b 03:25:54 arc blade procs multiple times when it procs 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10738 by lunkers 03:25:54 see, i contribute something other than furry memes 03:32:52 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:41:00 -!- PElf has joined ##crawl-dev 03:41:07 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 04:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:00:08 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:00:23 -!- kdrnic_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:11:25 -!- Mekire has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:11:34 -!- Grivan has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:13:12 Antem (L24 DrAE) 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So "a +2 falchion of slicing" rather than "a falchion" 14:43:22 -!- omnirizon has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:44:57 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:45:07 -!- kdrnic has joined ##crawl-dev 14:45:49 -!- kdrnic has quit [Client Quit] 14:51:44 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:54:47 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 14:56:38 !source itemname.cc:132 14:56:39 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/itemname.cc#L132 14:57:20 depends exactly what syntax you want but probably DESC_A as the descrip parameter there 14:59:08 i think most description_level_types include everything 14:59:12 !source description_level_type 14:59:12 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/enum.h#L1350 14:59:28 oh, I think I just needed the "identified" flag :) 15:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:00:26 Yup, that was it, got it, thanks 15:01:55 Another question before I get my head back into the code base... If you were to code a timed effect, which happens only if you haven't attacked for two or more turns, how would you go about it? 15:01:59 I'm looking at timedeffects.cc 15:02:22 And that solves half of my problem, but I wonder if there is an idiomatic way to tell what the player has been doing in the previous turns without maintaining a variable on my own 15:02:47 timed_effects/cc sorry 15:03:00 -!- THERetroGamerNY has quit [Quit: Be Blessed!] 15:03:29 -!- minqmay has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:04:06 i don't think there's any existing way to track that 15:04:15 -!- Kenran has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:04:27 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Quit: I like to rock] 15:05:24 possibly you can scrounge code from qw? 15:05:30 qw? 15:05:44 a crawl-playing bot written in lua 15:05:49 !rc qw 15:05:56 http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rcfiles/crawl-git/qw.rc 15:05:58 meh 15:06:02 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:06:09 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 15:06:29 -!- minmay has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 15:06:44 thanks! 15:07:16 Otherwise I can just keep a counter at Player that gets reset on attack 15:07:32 and the timed effect can just increase that I suppose... 15:07:55 i'm not sure timed effects would be the best approach, simplest would be just using a duration i think? 15:08:26 How would that look like? Haven't seen it before, still new to the code :) 15:09:00 I essentially want a variable at 'player' to decrease every X auts, provided that the player hasn't attacked for the past 2 turns. 15:10:46 !source decrement_durations 15:10:48 Can't find decrement_durations. 15:10:53 !source _decrement_durations 15:10:54 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/player-reacts.cc#L568 15:11:39 -!- kdrnic has joined ##crawl-dev 15:13:04 dunno, sounds sort of fiddly in terms of design but i feel like there's some existing duration somewhere that does something similar 15:13:35 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 15:14:05 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 15:14:19 -!- kdrnic has quit [Client Quit] 15:14:59 thanks, I'll take a look at that :) 15:15:00 the stuff in _decrement_durations are ones that have various kinds of special-casing for how and when they decrement, if you look in duration-data.h you'll see all the simpler durations and how those work 15:17:40 -!- scummos__ has quit [Client Quit] 15:20:06 huh, is there even anything that can trigger the dithmenos check in _check_equipment_conducts 15:20:56 -!- Menche has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:21:58 i guess that would be a better place for all the unrand world_reacts conducts to live, though 15:23:23 oh except it'd only help for the black knight barding, prune would still need special-casing anyway 15:23:38 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 15:25:10 -!- Alarkh_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:28:42 -!- Snikeer has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:29:09 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:31:20 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:34:42 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 15:37:53 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. 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When I replace no_tele_into with bloody, all tiles with either 4 or 5 get bloody squares, and the docs say this is the expected behaviour. 17:19:37 gammafunk: OK, I'll let regret-index know. 17:19:59 -!- mong has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:22:49 -!- geekosaur has quit [Excess Flood] 17:23:30 -!- SteelNeuron has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:23:44 -!- geekosaur has joined ##crawl-dev 17:28:23 -!- meatpath has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:28:32 -!- Zxpr1jk has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:28:42 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:29:43 -!- meatpath has joined ##crawl-dev 17:34:34 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 17:41:21 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:44:08 -!- adelrune has joined ##crawl-dev 17:50:53 -!- Dracunos-m has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:53:30 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 17:56:14 <|amethyst> !tell regret-index and I even wrote one of those! Needs someone with a wiki account and time to update the pages, but sounds like a good idea. Could you make a list? 17:56:14 |amethyst: OK, I'll let regret-index know. 17:56:20 -!- adelrune has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:59:13 -!- Dracunos-m has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:02:33 -!- Dracunos7 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:05:05 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.19-a0-1888-g6ba2374 (34) 18:13:01 So, I'm planning to remove amulet of dispersal shortly. It could be removed w/o replacement, but I'd like to consider replacing it with a new defensive amulet option, ideally one that helps with big swarms of things, including summons. I have a few ideas I'd like to run past the channel. 18:13:19 -!- miek__ is now known as miek_ 18:13:49 1) amulet that has a chance to apply 20 aut enslavement on monsters that hit you hard; premise is that 2) whenever an enemy gives you a status effect with a hex, you give it to that enemy as well. 18:13:58 oops, sent too soon 18:14:32 Premise for 1) is that it would be best in big fights, though the enslavement effect might be too irritating in smaller fights. 18:14:56 Premise for 2) is that it doesn't remove the penalties associated with being hexed, but it does lower the danger level. 18:15:10 2) would be a problem if it was swappable, since you'd swap it in for hexing enemies . . . 18:15:25 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:15:38 Blerg, maybe none of these are good ideas. I would really like to get another good defensive option in tho. 18:16:28 Lasty1: comment regardless of design issues: freeze is monday, are you sure you want to tackle that for 0.19? 18:16:39 gammafunk: no, probably not 18:16:46 well 18:16:54 removing dismissal might be good for 0.19 18:16:56 before freeze 18:17:01 but a new amulet, not so much 18:17:09 -!- Lasty1 is now known as Lasty 18:17:22 -!- owl has quit [Quit: owl] 18:17:27 I do think dismissal isn't working out well. 18:17:31 I guess the just distributing the weight to other amulets would be fine 18:17:58 -!- Dracunos-m has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:19:34 Lasty: turn amulets of dismissal into mimics 18:19:42 I have lots of good ideas 18:19:50 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:19:59 Then they'll dismiss themselves! 18:20:05 it's brilliant 18:20:39 -!- _Jordan_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:21:17 Lasty: re (2), this sounds fairly similar to MR, but more complex 18:22:50 yeah, after typing them out, I realized they were half-baked. :p 18:23:12 well, your premise for a direction for the amulet sounds interesting, maybe it's just finding the right effect 18:23:24 Non-abusable, non-situational, non-irritating defensive effects that aren't just numeric boosts are hard 18:23:34 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:23:50 another good ideal: if you get hit hard, the amulet sends you to the moon 18:24:00 Alice's Amulet 18:25:28 -!- Dracunos-m has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:28:12 are we in freeze now? 18:28:59 !tell hellmonk nice commits, want a cpo update? btw you don't get any updates from wed-sun (AU time, so like tue-sat US) 18:28:59 chequers: OK, I'll let hellmonk know. 18:32:00 -!- removeelyvilon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:32:32 Lasty: when you search 'amulet of' in ?/i, one of the results is amulet of nothing 18:32:33 -!- Dracunos-m has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:33:52 chequers: heh, that's not ideal 18:34:55 hasn't that been true for a really long time 18:35:05 yeah, since the amulet was introduced, probably 18:35:28 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:36:04 -!- Dracunos7 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:45:29 Lasty: Hiya! 18:45:40 gammafunk: did anything happen to -HE? 18:45:58 amulet of nothing is only like the 3rd or 4th worst amulet, situationally =p 18:46:05 I guess that can happen on the last moment before freeze :) 18:46:09 if it ever appeared on its own 18:47:08 dpeg: well, it can also just wait until 0.20 18:47:21 gammafunk: but players will get angry with so many species!! 18:47:24 so if freeze is monday i guess that implies the next tourney is soonish 18:47:35 Nov. 4th was cited as a potential date 18:47:51 woah 18:48:11 although i guess that's not as soon as i was thinking 18:48:30 how soon were you thinking 18:48:30 because for some reason i've been thinking it was a week later than it is for several days now 18:48:39 dpeg: they'll get mad about new Zot instead 18:48:48 -!- Lasty has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:48:54 there's always some good focus of player anger in each release, we never disappoint 18:49:21 heh, i don't know how mad people can legit get about new zot when it's basically old zot anyway 18:49:39 silly me, like that's going to affect people's ability to get outraged 18:50:03 gammafunk: good point, will be good for crowd control this time 18:51:10 gammafunk: it's not that i was thinking the tourney would be sooner, i've just had the date in my head messed up for the last few days 18:52:50 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 18:53:05 -!- Kranix has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 18:53:25 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 18:55:05 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:55:53 -!- Dracunos-m has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:56:27 I'll try to go through the survey this week to finalise it so we can distribute it to japan/korea for translation 18:56:57 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:57:01 -!- Amnesiac has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:57:50 chequers: survey? 18:58:26 dpeg: hey there, sorry, my network is flaky 18:59:07 Lasty: yes 18:59:21 the one i've been talking about for weeks how can you have missed it you must hate me 19:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:00:14 chequers: I haven't seen anything about it, but I've been out of touch a lot lately 19:00:23 but I'm interested! 19:00:44 minmay: remind me why amulets of dismissal have to go. I'm having trouble wording it right now, and I think I recall you had a pithy way of putting it. 19:00:53 -!- Dracunos-m has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:02:33 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest36610 19:05:52 -!- hellmonk has joined ##crawl-dev 19:06:23 Lasty: what's your google account email 19:07:05 -!- Pacra_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:07:29 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:07:37 chequers: howlandc@gmail.com 19:09:54 added 19:10:12 chequers: thanks! 19:10:44 03Lasty02 07* 0.19-a0-1889-g9c603be: Remove amulets of dismissal 10(7 minutes ago, 17 files, 12+ 70-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9c603be144cd 19:10:56 feedback welcome. i'm making some changes now based on dpeg's feedback 19:12:21 chequers: Section 5 of 8 says "We'd like to ask you about why you choose to mainly play online." Should that only be available to players who chose that in section 4? 19:12:39 oh, I see, nm 19:13:20 if not "We'd like to encourage you to mainly play online to feed our hunger for data!" =P 19:14:59 can you remove amulet of harm next 19:14:59 hellmonk: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 19:15:03 !messages 19:15:03 (1/1) chequers said (46m 4s ago): nice commits, want a cpo update? btw you don't get any updates from wed-sun (AU time, so like tue-sat US) 19:15:24 ProzacElf: pretty mch do that 19:15:36 I think I'll wait until tomorrow to update, there's some more stuff I want to pull through first 19:15:56 hellmonk: never. 19:16:04 I genuinely think that amulet of harm is fabulous for the game. 19:16:19 wew 19:16:40 -!- Konstantin has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:16:48 and I also do not think they're a pure trap item 19:17:32 chequers: It might be nice to grab some demographic info about amount of education and area of employment -- it'd be interesting if there were trends in those 19:18:29 -!- Ququman has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:18:32 hmm actually, I don't know if I'll have time to do anything on hellcrawl tomorrow 19:19:32 yeah, I guess if you have time can you update now? 19:20:33 chequers: we might also consider changing the "Gender" question to either a fill-in-the-blank field or add in options like trans* or gender non-conforming or intersex or queer ... 19:22:04 harm is pretty awesome if you're mostly using ranged tbh 19:24:00 it seems worthwhile for mp dependent chars 19:24:33 It's pretty good w/ evokables too 19:24:37 and some god powers 19:25:37 we're using in on our cewn for the rurobin 19:25:45 and it's a massive arrow saver 19:27:13 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 19:31:57 Lasty: there's an 'other' 19:32:01 for gender 19:32:28 i guess there's something to be said for promoting some options to first-class citizens though? I just want to keep the survey mentally small though, the less choice the better 19:33:00 hellmonk: actually i'll be around on wed now, so you still have two days 19:33:23 -!- Dracunos-m has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:33:28 ok, let's update anyway and if I have time I can try to push some minor things tomorrow or the day after 19:34:28 -!- omnirizon has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:35:22 -!- agolden has joined ##crawl-dev 19:36:16 -!- Watball has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:36:56 alright 19:37:59 CXX makeitem.o 19:37:59 makeitem.cc:1220:21: warning: ‘monster_type _choose_random_monster_corpse()’ defined but not used [-Wunused-function] 19:38:02 static monster_type _choose_random_monster_corpse() 19:38:04 ^ 19:38:05 FYI you have a warning on build now 19:38:42 updated 19:40:48 hmm I think that's been there, but I should probably remove the function 19:42:45 I'll get that out in the next update 19:43:38 chequers: you could make other a fill-in 19:44:06 it's probably not hard to normalize the values if someone cares to do that 19:46:22 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 19:46:29 ah, other is a fill in 19:46:57 anywhere you see 'other' as a response it's actually user-editable 19:47:05 what do you mean normalise? 19:55:42 -!- Dalwyn has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:56:56 03chequers02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/374 * 0.19-a0-1877-gef30655: Reduce altar variability for ecumenical minitemple 10(71 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ef3065562ec3 20:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:03:47 @??big kobold 20:03:47 big kobold (08K) | Spd: 10 | HD: 5 | HP: 22-32 | AC/EV: 3/12 | Dam: 7 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors | Res: 06magic(20) | Chunks: 14noxious | XP: 98 | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 20:03:49 @??big kobold zombie 20:03:49 big kobold zombie (07Z) | Spd: 8 | HD: 5 | HP: 34-49 | AC/EV: 1/7 | Dam: 5 | 07undead, evil, unbreathing | Res: 06magic(6), 02cold++, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08cleanse++ | XP: 25 | Sz: Medium | Int: brainless. 20:03:56 hey chequers, i saw one of your vaults with 4 ecumenical altars and 1 chei altar 20:04:03 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:04:14 was that so i could get the rare wrath from 4 random gods before switching to chei? =p 20:04:15 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 20:04:25 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 20:04:47 -!- Dracunos has joined ##crawl-dev 20:06:13 -!- agolden has quit [Quit: agolden] 20:09:18 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-1889-g9c603be (34) 20:10:52 -!- geekosaur has quit [Excess Flood] 20:12:22 -!- geekosaur has joined ##crawl-dev 20:14:33 -!- Mendin has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:22:18 -!- FunkyBomb has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:27:53 -!- Homage_ has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 49.0.1/20160922113459]] 20:28:18 -!- Pacra_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:28:33 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 20:33:35 -!- AltReality has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:34:30 ProzacElf: this commit just above changes that, it's in response to your feedback actually 20:34:43 oh 20:34:45 hahaha 20:36:01 hellmonk: Gift timeout is longer for Trog and Okawaru <-- might make more sense for non devs to say "Trog and Oka give gifts less often now" 20:36:15 yeah maybe 20:36:37 also, you may want to change the scoring algorithm if the number of runes in a game is changing 20:37:15 in some way so that 3-rune and "max-rune" wins are worth the same compared to vanilla crawl 20:37:43 hmm 20:37:45 maybe 20:38:01 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:38:15 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:38:25 I'm not super concerned w/ scoring but probably wouldn't be too hard to adjust 20:39:02 that about sums up my thoughts. I doubt people realllllly care 20:40:22 chequers: from the commit message i thought it meant that it would be more likely to spawn ecu altars 20:40:29 guess that's what i get for not actually reading the commit 20:41:03 tbh, i was tempted to actually use all 4 of them, if i hadn't run into d:1 swamp armor 20:42:33 -!- Pacra_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:43:23 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:44:12 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:50:30 -!- espais has joined ##crawl-dev 20:52:20 -!- squidcat has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:52:27 ProzacElf: yeah, the idea of using a couple appeals to me 20:52:41 -!- Dracunos7 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:52:59 it'll be pretty rare I find that vault a a Tr/MiCK though, and have it roll two altars 20:57:30 !messages 20:57:31 No messages for espais. 20:57:34 ;_; 20:57:42 ??offline 20:57:42 offline[1/1]: Doesn't count. 20:57:44 hee hee 20:57:45 -!- espais has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:01:05 -!- Guest36610 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:04:46 -!- ilyak has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:17:16 -!- Bcadren has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:17:57 -!- iamtehcrispy has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:19:05 -!- meatpath has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:22:50 -!- jeefus has joined ##crawl-dev 21:23:43 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 21:26:25 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Client Quit] 21:26:28 -!- jefus has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:30:57 -!- _Jordan_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:36:55 -!- meatpath has joined ##crawl-dev 21:40:12 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:41:10 -!- tksquared has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:45:42 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 21:47:52 -!- Dracunos has joined ##crawl-dev 21:50:03 -!- tksquared has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:56:53 -!- nikheizen has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:57:59 -!- adelrune has joined ##crawl-dev 21:59:40 -!- Dracunos7 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:00:07 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:00:12 -!- Dracunos-m has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:05:06 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 22:05:35 -!- jeefus is now known as jefus 22:08:22 -!- Dracunos7 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:09:25 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: magistern] 22:11:33 i've decided that the feature freeze should be tonight at midnight, pacific time. (aka "god's time zone".) 22:11:33 PleasingFungus: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 22:11:47 if anyone would like to object, then, too bad. 22:17:07 -!- Dracunos-m has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:18:25 -!- Dracunos7 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:19:25 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 22:19:45 PleasingFungus: what if god disagrees? 22:19:57 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 22:20:27 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: sleeep] 22:20:43 !tell dpeg let Him strike me down! 22:20:44 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let dpeg know. 22:22:46 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:36:01 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 22:39:57 rip pakellas 22:39:57 rip 22:41:43 slowpoke.jpg 22:41:55 Lightli: Pak is wearing an amulet of dismissal now 22:42:37 no, he's back to the drawing board 22:42:39 big difference 22:43:40 technically so is lorc... 22:45:41 yeah, what's the difference between "removed pending rewrite" and "removed" 22:45:54 chequers: optimism 22:46:22 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:46:40 eronarn was also optimistic --- but also cited a lack of time 22:49:02 !tell lasty :D 22:49:03 chequers: OK, I'll let lasty know. 22:49:29 geekosaur: imo "I will do it soon, but I don't have time right now" is 95% followed by inaction on open source projects 22:49:37 things change now or they never change 22:49:52 it just requires a very liberal definition of "soon" 22:50:13 after all, just because something hasn't happened *yet* doesn't a priori mean it will never happen 22:50:17 eronarn didn't even say soon, though; made it clear it would be a while before they had time to look into redesigning tension to be useful for something more involved than Xom 22:50:29 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:52:15 (but you are right in that this probably means it'll never happen, intent or no) 22:55:47 this also happened with scoreboard 22:55:51 honestly i'm not sure tension was the right mechanic to base something like that on 22:55:58 "I'll fix the issues with the production dataset size soon" --> months of inaction 22:56:14 i feel like lava orc maybe could have worked but something major needed reworked probably anyway 22:57:54 you could perhaps use the usk piety gain approach now...? 23:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:00:19 something like that might have been interesting 23:00:38 that's sort of along the lines of what i think tension was supposed to accomplish in LO anyway 23:00:42 without being so easy to game 23:04:24 -!- _Jordan_ has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 23:06:38 looks like I managed to trap sandman in elf for all eternity 23:10:27 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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