00:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:01:03 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.19-a0-1861-g35def1e (34) 00:03:14 -!- nikitamog has joined ##crawl-dev 00:04:17 -!- nikitamog has quit [Client Quit] 00:09:40 -!- Bcadren has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:14:57 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:14:59 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 00:15:44 gammafunk: (a) mostly i was joking (b) my joke ended in 'ogre' anyway! 00:15:44 PleasingFungus: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 00:15:44 (ended in calling them 'ogres') 00:15:59 Oh let's all just get OGRE IT! 00:16:41 8) 00:16:56 funny! joke! 00:19:12 !glasses 00:19:13 ( •_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) 00:19:16 <- me 00:22:58 -!- M-bbigras has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:24:18 -!- Menche has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:28:26 -!- ebarrett_ has quit [] 00:29:16 -!- hpm_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:35:17 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:42:35 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-1862-gf0d375d: Make Fedhas appreciate all corpse decay (minmay) 10(1 year, 6 months ago, 4 files, 14+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f0d375d61b4b 00:42:35 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-1863-g4fde920: Rot all corpses for Fedhasites when leaving levels 10(26 hours ago, 4 files, 70+ 7-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4fde92058887 00:42:35 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-1864-g207f91a: Move Fedhas's prayer effect into an ability 10(26 hours ago, 6 files, 18+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/207f91affd67 00:42:35 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-1865-gcc38ccb: Remove the (p)rayer command 10(25 hours ago, 22 files, 43+ 298-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/cc38ccbfaff6 00:42:35 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-1866-ge6f2195: Add a (p)rayer reminder at altars 10(70 seconds ago, 1 file, 7+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e6f219599960 00:43:18 h e l l y e a h 00:43:18 minmay: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 00:43:20 !messages 00:43:21 (1/1) PleasingFungus said (26m 46s ago): i am regrettably aware of slime girls, and monmusu, and many other Extremely Internet things 00:43:53 PleasingFungus: someone posted like...the slime girl monsterpedia entry or something, on tavern, many years ago 00:43:57 lol 00:44:36 spiny frog skeleton (15Z) | Spd: 10 (swim: 60%) | HD: 7 | HP: 42-58 | AC/EV: 0/2 | Dam: 20 | 07undead, evil, unbreathing | Res: 06magic(9), 02cold++, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 131 | Sz: Medium | Int: brainless. 00:44:36 %?spiny frog skeleton 00:44:54 -!- hpm_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:46:11 PleasingFungus: i wanted to find it to send it to you but...i dont really want to look at that stuff again very much 00:47:49 as if you don't have it saved in a directory, right next to the one named "lick beasts" 00:48:15 probably the funniest thing of that genre that i've seen was the minecraft mod that turned all the monsters into anime girls 00:48:19 because... it was still minecraft 00:48:24 so they were still all blocks 00:48:30 big ol cubey things 00:49:37 hey chequers, can you tell me which commit I need to look at for the derived undead hp display bug 00:49:41 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:49:45 derived undead hp display bug? 00:50:31 -!- Smello has quit [Quit: Bye!] 00:51:33 skeletons display as having 0 average hp, feelsbadman 00:54:25 o 00:54:36 i see 00:54:57 zombies are bugged the same way, fyi 00:54:59 apparently it got fixed in trunk some time between when I started hellcrawl and now 00:55:04 no it's not 00:55:06 it's still bugged 00:55:07 oh 00:55:08 well 00:55:11 i'll look at it in the morning 00:55:53 hrm, how many tiles is silent spectre silence? 00:55:54 I think their ac and ev are bad too, mr seems to be ok 00:55:59 ??silent spectre 00:55:59 silent spectre[1/1]: A weak ghost that spawns in Crypt. It radiates silence over a huge area (bigger than LOS). Will happily follow you around and trivialise all spellcasting enemies, if you're a fighter. Cannot use stairs. 00:56:08 I think it's 12 00:56:28 no, ac and ev work 00:56:34 for derived undead 00:56:40 @??titan zombie 00:56:40 titan zombie (07Z) | Spd: 8 | HD: 20 | HP: 129-202 | AC/EV: 8/0 | Dam: 44 | 07undead, evil, unbreathing | Res: 06magic(26), 02cold++, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08cleanse++ | XP: 842 | Sz: Giant | Int: brainless. 00:56:50 are you sure 00:56:51 ^ that's wrong; they actually have -2 ev, apparently 00:56:52 yes 00:56:58 unless your branch broke it somehow 00:57:01 ok, the negative ev is correct 00:57:02 compare titan zombie & goblin zombie 00:57:05 just making sure 00:57:18 because I saw some negative ev numbers and was slightly concerned 00:57:19 reasonable! 00:57:21 heh 00:57:26 yeah that might itself be a bug 00:57:36 but it wouldn't be a display bug 00:59:03 looks like there's nothing preventing negative base ev for monsters, but their actual EV is 0 for purposes of stuff shooting at them, etc 00:59:08 so that works out 00:59:15 ok 00:59:19 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 49.0/20160916101415]] 00:59:30 would be easy to fix in the display too, if I can make myself care enough to do it 01:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:03:15 hmm, yeah I'll have to fix base ac in my setup, it's always pulling 0 for derived undead the way I'm pulling it 01:04:10 -!- Zxpr1jk has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:07:33 @??silent spectre 01:07:33 silent spectre (10W) | Spd: 10 | HD: 8 | HP: 33-52 | AC/EV: 5/15 | Dam: 15 | 07undead, 10doors, evil, see invisible, fly, unbreathing | Res: 06magic(40), 12cold+++, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm, 04napalm | Vul: 08cleanse++ | XP: 312 | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 01:07:58 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:08:14 -!- Grivan has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:09:45 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-1866-ge6f2195 (34) 01:10:14 !apt HO 01:10:15 HO: Fighting: 2, Short: 0, Long: 1, Axes: 3!, Maces: 1, Polearms: 1, Staves: -1, Slings: -1, Bows: -1, Xbows: -1, Throw: -1, Armour: 1, Dodge: -2, Stealth: -1, Shields: 1, UC: 1!, Splcast: -3, Conj: 0, Hexes: 0, Charms: -1, Summ: 0, Nec: 0, Tloc: -2, Tmut: -3, Fire: 1, Ice: -1, Air: -2, Earth: 0, Poison: -1, Inv: 3!, Evo: 0, Exp: 0, HP: 1, MP: 0 01:10:22 !apt Mi 01:10:23 Mi: Fighting: 2, Short: 1, Long: 2!, Axes: 2, Maces: 2, Polearms: 2, Staves: 2!, Slings: 1, Bows: 1, Xbows: 1, Throw: 0, Armour: 2!, Dodge: 1, Stealth: -1, Shields: 2!, UC: 1!, Splcast: -4, Conj: -3*, Hexes: -4*, Charms: -4*, Summ: -3*, Nec: -3*, Tloc: -3*, Tmut: -2, Fire: -3*, Ice: -3*, Air: -3, Earth: -2, Poison: -3*, Inv: 0, Evo: -1, Exp: -1, HP: 1, MP: -1* 01:11:03 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 01:12:29 -!- Lasty has quit [Client Quit] 01:17:53 hellmonk: re: the bad commit. why don't you just merge every commit from mainline crawl 01:18:09 is it too difficult with the amount of divergence? 01:18:25 because I don't like some of them, also yeah a lot of merges will fail 01:18:40 %git c9128b4 01:18:40 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.19-a0-1736-gc9128b4: Fix monster max HP display for edge cases 10(12 days ago, 5 files, 27+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c9128b42e848 01:18:42 i think this one 01:18:50 %git fa80773 01:18:50 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.19-a0-1706-gfa80773: Fix Hep ally max HP display (chequers) 10(2 weeks ago, 3 files, 8+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/fa8077344365 01:19:05 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:19:10 it builds on code from that second one though 01:19:54 kk, I'll take a look at those 01:20:19 i wonder if it would be possible to change crawl to make hellcrawl less invasive a series of changes 01:20:28 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-1866-ge6f2195 (34) 01:20:30 almost so that you could make hellcrawl a game mode like sprint is 01:20:40 it would prob be less invasive if I could code worth a damn too 01:22:17 bad programmers unite 01:26:09 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:27:43 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 01:30:39 how many games of hellcrawl have been played? 01:31:19 hm 01:31:22 heh, 'games', since we know it's not a real AAA title like DCSS 01:31:27 is it an experimental branch 01:31:48 or rather, can it be queried like an experimental branch 01:31:49 214 01:31:54 on CPO 01:31:57 it's a fork, so wouldn't be counted as one quite that way; if it were in sequell it would need something like the 'sprint' kw 01:32:00 !kw sprint 01:32:01 Built-in: sprint => game=sprint 01:32:02 2049 milestones 01:32:07 yeah, game=hellcrawl 01:32:18 !lg * game=hellcrawl 01:32:19 undefined method `+' for nil:NilClass 01:32:22 -!- cait_ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:32:24 uhhhhh 01:32:25 well it's not in sequell 01:32:33 rip... 01:32:38 !lg * game=sprint 01:32:40 rip in pepperoni 01:32:40 579252. ahab the Axe Maniac (L20 MiFi of Qazlal), escaped with the Orb on 2016-10-12 04:36:20, with 544846 points after 7195 turns and 0:31:22. 01:32:51 !lg * sprint month 01:32:52 8925. ahab the Axe Maniac (L20 MiFi of Qazlal), escaped with the Orb on 2016-10-12 04:36:20, with 544846 points after 7195 turns and 0:31:22. 01:33:13 can it be that hellcrawl is less popular than sprint?! 01:33:24 maybe hellmonk is adding too many bad features!!! 01:33:37 can it be that a meme fork only available on the prison island server is less popular than a supported game mode?! 01:34:13 wow, alcatraz has a server??? 01:34:20 !lg * zotdef month 01:34:22 130. ahab the Ducker (L5 TrFi), mangled by Bogwald the orc warrior (a +0,+0 orcish scimitar) in Zot (Scenario I: Hall of Zot : zotvault) on 2016-10-12 04:54:54, with 241 points after 562 turns and 0:05:30. 01:34:30 sameperson!!! 01:34:32 it's about as popular as zotdef 01:34:34 do people really play zotdef 01:34:40 ayy lmao 01:34:51 doesn't zotdef just like, crash 01:34:56 only sometimes! 01:34:57 it did last time I tried to play it 01:35:04 sometimes, it doesn't crash 01:35:12 !lg * zotdef won 01:35:13 56. namelastname112 the Heavyweight Champion (L27 TrMo of Yredelemnul), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2016-05-21 20:21:37, with 9111360 points after 18405 turns and 2:44:19. 01:35:16 wow 01:35:29 been months since a win 01:35:44 of course I have no idea how hard zotdef is to win 01:36:14 -!- mong has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:36:14 -!- CaptainFruitcake has joined ##crawl-dev 01:36:28 wow, that hostname 01:36:46 maybe CanOfWorms works for the Canadian CIA 01:36:46 FR, mention grey draconians gaining more AC when they reach xl7 01:37:17 -!- anticore has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:39:05 actually that could be a good implementable 01:39:14 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:39:23 -!- CaptainFruitcake is now known as CanOfWorms 01:43:58 -!- cait has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:54:20 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:57:56 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-1866-ge6f2195 02:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:09:34 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:13:28 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: leaving] 02:16:41 -!- hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:18:58 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:19:18 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:22:01 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 02:24:41 -!- Netmonmatt has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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In other words, we'd get rid of the "c" command entirely. 08:10:34 (Obviously, he takes his cue from the new hides mechanic.) 08:10:41 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 08:12:20 In my opinion, the gameplay effects are negligible (there's something to say about Kikubaaqudgha, but he even does that), and the interface gain would be huge. So instead of waiting until we finally sort out food in Crawl, we should just follow him for now. 08:14:31 <|amethyst> dpeg: Fedhas and Animate Dead are probably the two biggest gameplay effects 08:14:49 <|amethyst> (and Yred, but that falls under "Animate Dead") 08:14:55 <|amethyst> that I can think of anyway 08:15:17 <|amethyst> but there's also a UI problem that elliptic pointed out 08:15:31 |amethyst: what is it? 08:15:52 <|amethyst> it means you have a stack whenever a monster dies 08:16:03 stack of chunks? 08:16:14 <|amethyst> chunks + corpse 08:16:14 for Sublimation? 08:16:14 <|amethyst> two items 08:16:17 ah, I see 08:16:21 <|amethyst> so one is hidden 08:16:48 that is annoying, true 08:17:29 <|amethyst> you could make corpses (and other stationary items) always visible, so that at least you don't have to travel to the stack to verify 08:17:40 what if the chunk(s) falls by the wayside (splash effect in other games)? 08:17:49 or that, yes 08:17:49 <|amethyst> but that would be a pretty complicated change, to have 2 but not all items in a stack revealed 08:18:01 <|amethyst> hm 08:18:25 alternatively, monsters could leave either a corpse, or chunks, or nothing 08:18:41 This would be a gameplay change, but I don't think it is very big. 08:19:19 <|amethyst> yeah 08:19:23 corpses always leaves chunks so just put the corpse on the top of the stack 08:19:35 <|amethyst> dpeg: it seems like such a stopgap solution though 08:19:38 you will know there are chunks in the stack 08:19:45 hm, I should take this to c-r-d, I guess 08:19:57 many thanks for the quick input, very helpful... as always :) 08:20:06 <|amethyst> dpeg: Hm, what if "," on corpses autmatically butchered as part of the pickup? 08:20:16 <|amethyst> dpeg: including autopickup 08:20:29 vible: I think the technical complication |amethyst speaks about is that the code has to think about "stack" differently 08:20:49 |amethyst: that would also be fine, I guess 08:20:53 the options are endless!! 08:21:05 ah okey 08:22:17 <|amethyst> vible: putting the corpse on top would make it worse I think 08:22:35 <|amethyst> vible: I guess on top of the chunks wouldn't be any worse 08:22:58 <|amethyst> vible: but if it's on top of the whole pile, that makes it harder to know if the monster dropped equipment 08:23:06 yeah 08:23:08 indeed 08:23:18 and that's a big loss 08:28:27 -!- ololoev has quit [Client Quit] 08:29:22 Is it on purpose that X< now traverses altars? 08:29:40 nope! 08:30:56 <|amethyst> ? 08:30:57 should I file a BR? 08:31:11 <|amethyst> it's not doing that for me 08:31:19 also, there seems to have been some regression about prompts: I get more "YES/NO" than before. 08:31:22 <|amethyst> oh, maybe I'm not updated 08:31:32 |amethyst: do you have an altar on the level? :) 08:31:52 <|amethyst> Yeah, trying in temple 08:32:08 -!- hpm__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:32:52 |amethyst: did not happen yesterday, so it's a very new feature! 08:32:54 <|amethyst> ah 08:33:04 <|amethyst> yeah, I see it on cbro 08:33:10 <|amethyst> wasn't updated locally 08:33:42 -!- sooheon has joined ##crawl-dev 08:35:35 result of (p)rayer removal, now > and < can be used at altars to pray 08:36:04 but it seems to be affecting travel as well, which it shouldn't 08:36:46 <|amethyst> that's because feat_stair_direction changed 08:37:22 gammafunk: yes, expected that 08:37:22 <|amethyst> hm, does it traverse shops too? 08:37:22 gotta blame PF :) 08:38:17 <|amethyst> oh 08:38:17 <|amethyst> if (feat_is_altar(feat)) 08:38:17 <|amethyst> return CMD_GO_UPSTAIRS; // arbitrary; consistent with shops 08:38:20 <|amethyst> except 08:38:37 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:38:43 ??blame 08:38:44 I don't have a page labeled blame in my learndb. Did you mean: blade, flame. 08:40:14 <|amethyst> ah 08:40:17 <|amethyst> explicitly excluded 08:42:10 <|amethyst> hm, let me test comething 08:42:13 <|amethyst> s 08:47:26 -!- Cheibriados has joined ##crawl-dev 08:47:26 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: Crawl Development | Logs: http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/ | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general Crawl-related chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to a pastebin service, please. 08:47:26 -!- The topic of ##crawl is: Play Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup online now! Type ??servers for instructions. | http://crawl.develz.org | FooTV: http://termcast.develz.org - ??footv for instructions | See also ##crawl-offtopic 08:51:08 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 08:58:03 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 09:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:00:46 03|amethyst02 07* 0.19-a0-1867-g50c3308: Staticalise a function, unbrace, and checkwhite. 10(18 minutes ago, 4 files, 4+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/50c3308bfa6d 09:00:46 03|amethyst02 07* 0.19-a0-1868-g8505d8b: Don't include altars in X<> cycling (dpeg) 10(12 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8505d8b13579 09:02:18 thank you! 09:05:58 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 09:07:09 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 09:13:15 |amethyst: what is the problem for chunks-on-kills regarding animate dead? 09:16:04 <|amethyst> dpeg: that it removes the trade-off 09:16:16 aha! 09:16:25 <|amethyst> minmay would argue that it's not really a trade-off because if you're playing correctly you never need chunks 09:16:33 yes 09:16:43 <|amethyst> and certainly you need so few that it doesn't change your number of allies very much 09:17:29 yes, wrote that in the mail 09:21:04 alright, email sent... hopefully we can do something here! 09:29:26 -!- epsilonhalbe has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:37:45 -!- jefus has joined ##crawl-dev 09:38:24 -!- jefus has quit [Client Quit] 09:38:58 -!- jefus has joined ##crawl-dev 09:43:43 -!- sooheon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:48:59 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 09:50:30 |amethyst, dpeg: about chunks + corpse stacks, it isn't just the information loss but also the clutter - stacks look different from a single item, at least in console 09:51:08 elliptic: yes, I know ... that's what I'm referring to 09:51:17 you know that I only play console 09:51:45 automatic piles from chunks+corpse is not an option 09:52:27 making monsters drop at most one of chunks or a corpse could work 09:52:56 yes, I think it's the easiest solution 09:53:16 elliptic: would you...reply? The young ones look up to you :) 09:53:22 it still means more clutter though 09:53:32 yes, but also less keypresses 09:54:15 <|amethyst> we could turn auto_butcher on by default now that it only happens when autoexploring 09:54:48 <|amethyst> not a full solution though 09:55:22 fully twice as many things cluttering the ground from killing a yak band unless we also reduce the chances of leaving one of them 09:55:57 elliptic: I don't think it should be 50% corpse, 50% chunk. 09:56:06 IMO the best solution would be to do away with corpses altogether and change animate dead etc into things that you cast before killing something 09:56:30 <|amethyst> or could make fedhas, animate/yred, etc work on chunks 09:56:36 elliptic: I concur, but that will be a longer way until we get there... 09:56:59 <|amethyst> but that would make removing partial-drop/pickup harder 09:57:00 is it? there isn't that much that uses corpses currently really 09:57:41 <|amethyst> Boatmurder-style door-blocking 09:58:00 elliptic: well, if we can decide on it, I'm absolutely for it! 09:58:28 <|amethyst> fedhas's ability could work on chunks 09:58:39 <|amethyst> (possibly including ones in your inventory?) 09:59:17 |amethyst: making abilities like animate work on chunks seems bad to me 09:59:42 <|amethyst> elliptic: if they only worked on fresh unpicked-up stacks? 10:00:01 <|amethyst> elliptic: I guess that doesn't work if you partial pickup a stack 10:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:00:06 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 10:00:07 since chunks are on autopickup, but we generally don't want to make such abilities work on chunks you've picked up (that is what corpse pickup was like) 10:00:31 (and stacking issues) 10:01:03 if we want to keep fedhas toadstools, I think we should either decouple it from corpses altogether or make it happen semi-automatically as monsters die 10:02:05 <|amethyst> hm, I was going to say that autopickup is only an issue if you have to stand on the corpse/chunks (animate skeleton/remains), but I guess it's also a problem if you want to pick through the items first 10:02:25 <|amethyst> or have to walk over them without a monster in sight, for whatever reason 10:03:38 <|amethyst> I like the idea of passive toadstools 10:04:25 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 10:04:36 <|amethyst> elliptic: hm, how would you suggest Zombie Channel interact with Gozag? 10:04:50 passive animation with yred whenever a monster dies in sight of you (with some small chance) seems fine too 10:05:09 animate dead spell is less clear, we already have a bunch of similar durations 10:05:10 <|amethyst> the small chance means you have less choice in the matter 10:05:39 |amethyst: could make it work normally with gozag and just have gozag suppress the chunks 10:06:06 if we are allowing chunks + zombie I don't see a problem with allowing gold + zombie 10:06:14 <|amethyst> yeah 10:06:17 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:06:31 <|amethyst> re "less choice", I mean that you'll get lots of little zombies that you don't really want 10:06:43 <|amethyst> perhaps the chance could scale with HD? 10:07:10 <|amethyst> or with (HD / depth) or some similar function 10:07:12 well, you generally won't mind having them even if they are weak, and they will disappear with time 10:07:24 <|amethyst> yred's don't, or did that change? 10:07:35 <|amethyst> I guess they'll die with time 10:07:41 <|amethyst> which is probably what you meant :) 10:07:52 <|amethyst> and/or be left behind 10:08:02 wait, yred animate is different from animate dead spell? 10:08:08 I had no idea (I don't play yred much) 10:08:55 <|amethyst> %git b4b85f54 10:08:55 07Lasty02 * 0.17-a0-689-gb4b85f5: Give Animate Dead/Skeleton minions a timeout 10(1 year, 6 months ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b4b85f546d5c 10:09:07 <|amethyst> "Yred's version of the spell is unchanged, because Yred's core premise is permanent minions." 10:09:12 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-1868-g8505d8b (34) 10:09:13 meh 10:09:51 regardless you'll leave them behind as you said 10:11:31 <|amethyst> BTW, it's not an action, can we have an action_count for "chunk rotted in inventory"? 10:11:41 <|amethyst> I think it would be a useful thing to see 10:11:57 <|amethyst> though I guess a count of the number of chunks dropped would do the same 10:12:09 <|amethyst> better, actually 10:12:56 Do you think we could cobble together a coherent proposal from this? 10:13:34 <|amethyst> the question is getting it from proposal to implementation in five days 10:13:49 <|amethyst> without there being so many bugs that we can't fix them in two weeks 10:14:17 yes, pity that 10:14:29 I had hopes on no more "c" 10:14:32 <|amethyst> it can be done, but it requires someone who *wants* to implement it 10:14:45 <|amethyst> rather than someone who can try to fit it into their spare time 10:14:51 * dpeg wishes he didn't stop coding when starting to study 10:17:11 <|amethyst> also, we'd need some well-thought-out numbers, because there's not a lot of time to playtest and tune before release 10:17:36 yes, this is a bigger change than I had suggested in the mail 10:18:44 <|amethyst> I still suggest, now that it doesn't trigger just on stepping, turning auto_butcher on by default 10:18:51 <|amethyst> for 0.19 10:18:59 <|amethyst> then 0.20 could actually fix things 10:19:12 <|amethyst> and in 0.19, the people who press o don't have to press c 10:20:08 oh, I didn't realize that dpeg was trying to do all this in 0.19 10:20:16 IMO there isn't nearly enough time 10:21:59 elliptic: well, my suggestion was smaller than Zombie Channel etc. 10:22:02 (changing option defaults is fine though - I haven't tried auto_butcher myself so I can't comment on that) 10:22:09 it was really "drop chunk alongside of corpse" 10:22:12 dpeg: anything involving food is pretty huge IMO 10:22:23 |amethyst: +1 for default change 10:22:33 elliptic: I'll try to bring it up again once 0.19 is out... 10:22:48 <|amethyst> I would like to hear if anyone has any issues with current auto_butcher 10:23:04 <|amethyst> I guess the way to hear that would be to turn it on by default and wait for player complaints :) 10:24:46 <|amethyst> I guess I'd especially like to hear what MarvinPA thinks, since he's the one who gave it its current behaviour 10:25:37 -!- oberstein has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:26:38 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 10:27:19 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 10:29:15 wouldn't turning auto_butcher on by default sort of break e.g. fedhas, yred 10:30:38 -!- oberstein has joined ##crawl-dev 10:32:37 -!- Bammboo has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:33:53 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:38:37 -!- M-bbigras has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:39:01 -!- Patashu__ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:39:37 -!- Dracunos7 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:40:52 Food is so intertwined with everything, can never move on :) 10:46:34 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-1869-g5fb031f: Fix tutorial 5 (removal of prayer) 10(21 seconds ago, 1 file, 5+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5fb031fc3a37 10:48:10 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: it now only works during autoexplore and travel 10:48:50 but if fedhas gains piety of corpse decay you wouldnt want to autobutcher 10:49:02 <|amethyst> ah, right, newfedhas 10:49:56 i guess oldfedhas you'd want to mash p before travelling anyway 10:50:02 technically that's still optimal for newfedhas 10:50:06 but it doesn't matter as much 10:50:14 The Crawl Automation Story 10:50:18 <|amethyst> yeah, I think auto_butcher doesn't work with newfedhas 10:50:37 -!- atrodo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:50:52 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:51:01 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Changing host] 10:51:15 <|amethyst> with yred it doesn't matter, because if you were going to autotravel away from/over a corpse anyway, you probably weren't going to come back and animate it later 10:54:30 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 10:54:39 how hard is it to disable autobutcher if god=Fedhas? 10:54:58 pretty trivial. how hard to document and explain to players? 10:55:10 if a new player is used to just butchering everything automatically...? 10:55:15 <|amethyst> how hard for Fedhas players who still have to press c? :) 10:55:34 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 10:56:34 <|amethyst> could make the p key toggle auto_butcher on and off, since it's not doing anything now :P 10:56:41 aiiii 10:57:14 Crawl's a mess, gotta rewrite it bottom up 10:58:33 bury it and rise above, imo 10:58:35 <_< 11:00:08 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:01:04 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 11:02:42 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:05:05 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 11:05:07 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 11:09:05 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-1869-g5fb031f (34) 11:11:39 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 11:11:41 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 11:11:56 -!- protopulse has joined ##crawl-dev 11:21:57 -!- Dracunos-m has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:25:59 -!- M-bbigras has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:34:19 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 11:41:30 ^vps 11:41:44 Rotatell where are you?!? 11:44:48 -!- sanka has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:48:38 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:48:53 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 11:49:52 gone... but not forgotten 11:50:29 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:56:34 -!- adibis has joined ##crawl-dev 11:59:56 -!- smee has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:03:58 -!- Morg0th has quit [Quit: leaving] 12:06:57 -!- Dracunos-m has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:09:57 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:10:02 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 12:10:53 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:15:25 -!- Netmonmatt has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 12:23:08 -!- stickyfingers has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:31:01 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:38:21 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:41:09 -!- sgun__ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:41:38 "It's quite silly to have the 'pray' key do things for exactly one 12:41:39 god (hard to learn!)," 12:41:45 two, kiku pray torment 12:42:15 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 12:43:13 that one could just as sensibly be an A though 12:43:39 that was moved into an ability year(s) ago 12:44:00 five years 12:44:02 %git 7a0ed7aab9ef11b1824785bfbed6b68efba81c9b 12:44:02 07kilobyte02 * 0.8.0-a0-5411-g7a0ed7a: Make Kikubaaqudgha's corpse torment an ability. 10(6 years ago, 7 files, 45+ 18-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7a0ed7aab9ef 12:44:42 the ^ still says you may be able to pray on a corpse 12:45:00 wow, really? 12:45:10 lemme test this again 12:45:24 six years 12:45:37 -!- Dracunos-m has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:45:46 oh 12:45:48 You can invoke torment by sacrificing a corpse. (4 MP, Piety) 12:46:04 i mixed it up with praying on corpses to sacrifice them 12:46:39 welp, sorry 12:47:53 -!- adibis has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:48:12 dpeg: depends how you round it! 12:50:01 PleasingFungus: also while i'm here i'd like to say that bloodless vampires in bat form get rpois+ only 12:50:13 why are you pinging ME? 12:50:23 i just like you 12:50:29 s-senpai.. 12:50:31 oy.... 12:50:51 !bug 10725 12:50:51 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10725 12:50:55 probably related to ^ and the fix 12:51:02 %git 63fd1ff48935 12:51:02 07amalloy02 * 0.19-a0-1850-g63fd1ff: Make sure vampires in statue form get rPois+++ (papilio) 10(3 days ago, 1 file, 2+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/63fd1ff48935 12:51:25 idk what the right behaviour is, vampires are a mess 12:51:30 nag marvinpa maybe 12:51:46 hi MarvinPA i'm nagging you 12:52:22 have you tested it in a recent build 12:52:29 because it looks like they get immunity to me 12:53:02 sec 12:53:11 i tested it yesterday 12:53:18 maybe the statue commit fixed it somehow, who knows 12:53:23 but i'll test it today too 12:54:17 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:56:44 MarvinPA: it's fixed! 12:56:47 thanks 12:57:18 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 13:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:04:33 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:04:47 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:08:34 -!- eb has quit [] 13:13:17 -!- oberstein has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:15:11 -!- oberstein has joined ##crawl-dev 13:24:53 -!- Zxpr1jk has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:24:56 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.19-a0-1869-g5fb031f (34) 13:29:05 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 49.0/20160916101415]] 13:29:57 -!- kdrnic has joined ##crawl-dev 13:30:13 -!- Atomic_2yYCn has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:37:03 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 13:38:37 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:46:41 -!- protopulse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:54:36 -!- Netmonmatt has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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Use !messages to read it. 19:19:12 oh, does command_to_string consider that? 19:19:17 doesn't it? 19:19:23 chequers: "> or <" causes "/lightgrey>" to show up at the end of the message. 19:19:32 !source command_to_string 19:19:33 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/macro.cc#L1432 19:19:33 no idea, i didn't look into it 19:19:42 PleasingFungus: heh 19:19:49 !source command_to_key 19:19:49 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/macro.cc#L1324 19:20:38 MarvinPA: maybe not? 19:20:56 still feels funny - we're totally ignoring the abstraction of the command 19:22:14 imo ugly code is better than ugly hint text :P 19:22:33 but yeah, maybe it should use the insert_commands in some way 19:25:24 i feel like we handle this elsewhere 19:25:30 in hints.cc somewhere maybe 19:25:31 in insert_commands! 19:25:35 :P 19:25:37 !source insert_commands 19:25:38 1/2. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/macro.cc#L1485 19:25:42 which i think is what hints.cc uses, yeah 19:25:45 yeah 19:26:07 else if (command_name == "%") 19:26:09 command_name = "percent"; 19:27:11 v. good hack 19:27:31 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Client Quit] 19:27:58 !lg * recent hells status~~berserk 19:28:00 23. cortexin the Slayer (L27 DsGl of Gozag), blasted by Asmodeus (damnation) on Geh:7 (geh_grunt) on 2016-09-08 19:38:21, with 785764 points after 116071 turns and 6:57:38. 19:29:57 !tell hangedman played through golubria wizlab. XL23 DDWr of Makh. books and cloaks were a good reward. For my character at least the combat was quite easy, except for the statue with tentacles at the end. I liked the setup with the teleporters, it was very fun 19:29:57 Blazinghand: OK, I'll let hangedman know. 19:29:57 dpeg: btw i'm not czech, just my email address is 19:30:47 !tell hangedman The "inner ring" area was good also. I particularly liked the windows poking into the center area so we could get an idea of what the rewards and the final boss would be 19:30:48 Blazinghand: OK, I'll let hangedman know. 19:31:26 -!- debo has quit [Quit: orb spiders :(] 19:32:01 -!- Jwoodward48ss has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:35:04 Bai Suzhen kills enemies off-screen 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10730 by Cheibrodos 19:35:50 not, per se, a bug 19:35:52 funny though 19:36:59 oh, because of the thunderclouds or something? that's pretty great 19:37:07 ya 19:38:15 -!- xnavy__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:41:39 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 19:43:22 -!- Lasty has quit [Client Quit] 19:45:02 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 19:49:27 !lg lovelain turn=65,474 19:49:28 '65,474' is not an integer in 'turn=65,474' 19:49:29 !lg lovelain turn=65474 19:49:30 1. LoveLain the Conqueror (L27 GrBe of Trog), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2016-10-03 07:12:12, with 1788552 points after 65474 turns and 0:28:19. 19:49:35 !lg lovelain turn=65474 x=gid 19:49:36 1. [game_key=LoveLain:cao:20160903064250S] LoveLain the Conqueror (L27 GrBe of Trog), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2016-10-03 07:12:12, with 1788552 points after 65474 turns and 0:28:19. 19:49:38 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 19:49:53 -!- reaverb has quit [Client Quit] 19:49:59 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 19:51:32 oh, would it be had to make reading known scrolls of acquirement be cancelable? 19:51:40 or is that already a thing 19:51:45 it's not a thing afaik 19:51:53 would be nice, I should look into it 19:52:01 i remember acq code being awful because of hups (?) 19:52:01 after I deal with these weird australian vaults 19:52:11 yeah, HUPS are indeed involved 19:52:43 but shouldn't be *too* hard to fix, let's see......(AND GAMMAFUNK WAS NEVER HEARD FROM AGAIN) 19:53:19 -!- gammafun1 is now known as gammafunk 19:54:12 add famous_last_words 19:56:34 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 19:56:34 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 19:59:06 maybe the solution is to have an option called "Scroll of acquirement" that always aquires one scroll of acquirement 19:59:11 and just use this option when the player hits escape 19:59:22 this way, instead of solving the problem, we add more technical debt and paper it over, while adding a new feature 20:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:04:23 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:04:38 no, I have a better solution with my new L5 charm spell "Cancellation", which grants Cancel status and allows for cancelation of any otherwise-uncancellable menu 20:04:38 gammafunk: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 20:06:00 good charm 20:09:53 charming! 20:09:53 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 20:14:02 -!- Zxpr2jk has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:14:27 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:16:53 -!- Kalir has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:19:36 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 20:21:47 people with too many wins are causing the scoreboard generator to OOM 20:21:53 these people are bad people 20:22:19 lol 20:26:15 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:26:37 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 20:28:30 is labs our only one way portal? 20:28:57 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:29:04 without an exit right next to the entrance? 20:29:06 a couple of wizlabs don't really have the exit near the entrance 20:29:13 but still a lot closer than labyrinth 20:29:13 zigs :) 20:29:17 ah right 20:31:30 -!- grammu has quit [] 20:33:50 bh: finding the exit is sort of the defining property of labyrinths 20:34:00 -!- jeefus has joined ##crawl-dev 20:34:21 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 20:37:21 -!- jefus has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:40:36 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:40:42 -!- simmarine_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:40:48 -!- neunon has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 20:40:59 Defining property of labyrinths? Random tele out of frustation, land next to the minotaur, who one-shots you 20:41:34 fine by me, too 20:42:00 I don't discriminate against which way players die, as long as their teeth are gnashing. 20:42:42 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 20:42:59 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 20:47:29 -!- neunon has joined ##crawl-dev 20:48:27 -!- adibis has joined ##crawl-dev 20:49:09 dpeg is a harsh mistress. 20:51:22 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 20:54:30 perhaps I'm a dentist, collector of teeth? 20:58:53 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:59:31 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 20:59:38 -!- wheals has quit [Client Quit] 20:59:56 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 21:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:08:03 -!- Grammus has joined ##crawl-dev 21:08:22 !lg sebi won 21:08:23 No games for sebi (won). 21:08:29 !lg sebi 21:08:30 106147. Sebi the Magician (L8 DESk of Uskayaw), succumbed to a killer bee's poison on D:7 on 2016-06-25 17:04:00, with 1015 points after 4858 turns and 1:09:19. 21:08:32 this asshole 21:08:35 bad person 21:09:08 !lg sebi s=char 21:09:09 106147 games for sebi: 52721x DEWn, 10699x DETh, 9046x DEEn, 8783x DEAr, 7435x DESt, 3248x HEEn, 2702x SEWn, 2427x DEAM, 2079x TeAM, 1715x TeWn, 893x TeAr, 722x DEAs, 512x DEHu, 482x DECr, 382x SEEE, 226x HEAr, 213x TeWz, 213x DEMo, 141x HEWn, 120x DESk, 119x SETh, 108x DEWr, 99x SEAr, 96x HuWn, 63x SESt, 63x DEFi, 63x TeNe, 57x SETm, 55x DETm, 41x DEBe, 39x DEHe, 36x HEAM, 33x TeSu, 32x TeAE, 32x... 21:09:20 !lg sebi s=char / turn>0 21:09:21 106146/106147 games for sebi: 52721/52721x DEWn [100.00%], 10699/10699x DETh [100.00%], 9045/9046x DEEn [99.99%], 8783/8783x DEAr [100.00%], 7435/7435x DESt [100.00%], 3248/3248x HEEn [100.00%], 2702/2702x SEWn [100.00%], 2427/2427x DEAM [100.00%], 2079/2079x TeAM [100.00%], 1715/1715x TeWn [100.00%], 893/893x TeAr [100.00%], 722/722x DEAs [100.00%], 512/512x DEHu [100.00%], 482/482x DECr [100.00%... 21:09:29 !lg sebi dswn / turn>0 21:09:30 1/1 game for sebi (dswn): N=1/1 (100.00%) 21:09:39 !lg sebi dewn / turn>0 21:09:40 52721/52721 games for sebi (dewn): N=52721/52721 (100.00%) 21:09:49 !lg sebi dewn / turn>100 21:09:50 333/52721 games for sebi (dewn): N=333/52721 (0.63%) 21:09:53 !lg sebi dewn / turn>10 21:09:54 463/52721 games for sebi (dewn): N=463/52721 (0.88%) 21:09:56 !lg sebi dewn / turn>11 21:09:57 456/52721 games for sebi (dewn): N=456/52721 (0.86%) 21:09:57 !lg sebi dewn / turn>1 21:09:58 1850/52721 games for sebi (dewn): N=1850/52721 (3.51%) 21:10:19 !lg sebi dewn turn>1 x=avg(int) 21:10:20 1850 games for sebi (dewn turn>1): avg(int)=15.03 21:10:23 chequers: one of our most dedicated players rather! 21:10:24 !lg sebi dewn turn=0 x=avg(int) 21:10:25 No games for sebi (dewn turn=0). 21:10:28 !lg sebi dewn turn=1 x=avg(int) 21:10:29 50871 games for sebi (dewn turn=1): avg(int)=15.98 21:10:34