00:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00:51 shouldn't !flip reverse the order of the characters too 00:01:02 the first flip reverses it 00:01:07 the second flip reverses it back 00:01:16 !flip abcdef 00:01:17 (╯°□°)╯︵ɟǝpɔqɐ 00:01:26 haha 00:01:28 !flip ɟǝpɔqɐ 00:01:29 aha, rather 00:01:29 (╯°□°)╯︵ɐbɔdǝɟ 00:01:37 that seems odd... 00:01:46 this command is useful because it shows that the letters l, o, p, q, s, u, x, and z can be retained through flips 00:02:03 oh also b and d but those are crummy letters 00:02:16 quvessa 00:02:18 !flip dollop 00:02:19 (╯°□°)╯︵dollop 00:02:38 !cmd !flip 00:02:38 Command: !flip => .echo (╯°□°)╯︵$(map (fn (w) (apply concat (map (fn (c) (if (< $c T) (lookup $c (flipcharhash1)) (lookup $c (flipcharhash2)))) (reverse (split "" $w))))) (join " " (reverse (split " " ${*:-┻━┻})))) 00:03:25 !recur !flip 6 quIxotIc 00:03:26 (╯°□°)╯︵(╯°□°)╯︵(╯°□°)╯︵quIxoʇIɔ︵╯(°□°╯)︵╯(°□°╯)︵╯(°□°╯) 00:03:36 -!- kdrnic has joined ##crawl-dev 00:03:41 !recur !flip 2 00:03:41 (╯°□°)╯︵┻━┻︵╯(°□°╯) 00:03:53 need to add a map for those arms 00:03:56 my chat experience nooooo 00:03:57 !recur !flip 2 o 00:03:57 well that's enough spam for me today 00:03:58 (╯°□°)╯︵o︵╯(°□°╯) 00:04:06 now they're playing catch 00:04:18 looks more like ping pong 00:04:24 sure, that works too 00:05:30 -!- kdrnic__ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:05:45 how do unicode characters sort 00:06:10 I assume they'd come after the ascii ones 00:06:26 locale dependent, actuallt 00:07:01 -!- nicolae- has left ##crawl-dev 00:07:58 .echo $(if (< ╯ Z) 0 1)) 00:07:59 1) 00:08:03 .echo $(if (< ╯ Z) 0 1) 00:08:03 1 00:08:27 .echo $(if (< Z z) 0 1) 00:08:28 0 00:09:25 .echo $(if (< X Z) 0 1) 00:09:26 0 00:09:38 .echo $(if (< Z X) 0 1) 00:09:39 1 00:10:34 FR: the channel bots should announce new Tavern topics 00:10:48 ha 00:11:15 FR: bots should announce /r/dcss posts, too 00:11:17 not kidding. also they should announce new reddit topics, which is like three per day. 00:11:22 :O 00:11:22 yeah 00:11:27 -!- kdrnic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:11:31 There was a lot recently 00:11:46 But not spammy compared to the normal botspam I guess :p 00:11:47 the reddit posts are most CIP/advice threads and I bet channel gives better advice than those reddit nerds 00:12:16 it does 00:12:20 No way, reddit is the one that came up with the mfsk guide 00:12:23 but not by much 00:13:48 only if we implement sequell commands to put responses on reddit 00:14:11 !manningface 00:14:32 -!- diazepan has quit [Quit: diazepan] 00:15:35 oh man, posting to reddit directly from irc would be amazing 00:22:07 -!- Dracunos has quit [] 00:23:47 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:27:59 -!- destroythecore has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:29:10 -!- koboldina has joined ##crawl-dev 00:29:12 canofworms here? 00:29:17 yes 00:29:26 what up 00:29:52 somebody wanted a long sleeved shirt special so I'm making an order with my wholesaler, if you still have any interest in getting a bunch of customs from me for resale on your tumblr/etc now would be gr8 time 00:29:59 !!! 00:30:04 !flip $(!flip) 00:30:05 (╯°□°)╯︵┻━┻︵╭(o□o╭) 00:30:07 perfect 00:30:07 I will 00:30:09 absolutely 00:30:14 take a long sleeved shirt 00:30:34 oh, you want one of those for yourself? definitely tell me which one so I can include it in here then 00:30:45 I'll need to remind myself to advertise it too 00:30:51 the problem is I have to order like 36 shirts at a time for this to be worth it financially (stepdowns in wholesale pricing) 00:30:51 don't for give him the dev price increase 00:30:59 devs pay 150% of list price 00:31:11 the dev price increase is only for minmays and gammafunks 00:31:16 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.19-a0-1815-g4007336 (34) 00:31:22 it's like haste, but for purchasing shirts 00:31:29 also there is a $9999999999 price hike for anarchists 00:31:45 that just proves how much we need anarchy 00:32:12 I'll give you the image later 00:32:13 if anyone know what a good flipped equivalent for the degree symbol is, let me know 00:32:20 o is pretty weird looking 00:32:22 but yeah can it doesn't have to be a long sleeve shirt that's just my impetus for making this latest order 00:32:26 think I'm going to get an invocations shirt 00:32:31 well it is getting cold 00:32:37 t-shirts are going to get less exposure!!! 00:32:49 hmmmmmm 00:32:49 !flip o.o 00:32:50 true 00:32:50 (╯°□°)╯︵°˙° 00:32:56 I didn't think people really wore long sleeved shirts much tho 00:33:00 I do 00:33:01 maybe I should buy extras.... 00:33:02 it's 00:33:05 extremely cold in canada. 00:33:08 likewise a flipped o, I guess 00:33:11 well, this part of canada 00:33:11 wouldn't you want like a sweater or something 00:33:32 HEAT PRESSED DCSS SWEATERS jk 00:33:33 do you have a picture of long sleeved shirts 00:33:37 I'm upset I didn't get to remove haste 00:33:41 there's already outrage about it 00:33:44 they're pretty much exactly the same as the shirt you bought before except long sleeves 00:33:46 just to see if it's what I'm thinking about 00:33:46 same brand same cut etc 00:33:51 oh hmm 00:33:56 so same thickness? 00:34:00 http://dezncbzmma4kr.cloudfront.net/2/items/colorpics/G240_54.jpg 00:34:06 yes, exactly hte same thickness (6.1oz) 00:34:06 I'm really feeling these quicksilver drags in zot, except the part where I oneshot them with bolt of fire 00:34:07 not more like polo shirt thickness? 00:34:16 oh hmm 00:34:22 yes, although I can get a thicker shirt if that's what you want 00:34:24 it just might cost more 00:34:31 http://dezncbzmma4kr.cloudfront.net/2/items/colorpics/G240_54.jpg 00:34:32 Rast-, I anticipate there'll be more DCSS posts now that the sub isn't an eyesore 00:34:34 whoops didn't mean to doublepost that 00:34:43 well, I might just get regular t-shirts then 00:34:51 I was expecting something more polo-ish 00:35:06 yeah the guy asking for a long sleeved shirt just wanted a regular thickness one. also I'm not sure how pressing would work on thicker polo-ish material 00:35:15 but as I said if you WANT something more polo-ish I'm sure I can get something and try 00:35:55 Brannock, it was fine before, but either way 00:36:33 well I'll start drafting the post and message you when it's up 00:36:37 I haven't updated that tumblr in a month... 00:36:48 well if you have any specific requests for sizes, colors, anything like that for that arrangement pls tell me now because I am getting that order together 00:37:02 like if any of your designs will require a specific color that's not white or black 00:37:05 etc 00:37:06 Brannock: you could have just cherry picked it! 00:37:20 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:37:34 brannock: subreddit looks good 00:37:42 there's more changes I want to mkae 00:37:46 but frankly I detest CSS 00:37:59 brannock: I could maybe get you a banner with a bunch of splash screens and crap 00:38:17 I think most of them are regular white/black shirts 00:38:30 I can get up randomized banners if we get multiple submissions 00:38:33 also man I am planning on doing a fe^Q splash screen 00:38:40 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 00:38:44 more splash screens are Excellent 00:38:46 a storm with a kitty in the middle 00:38:58 sounds like a ~good t-shirt~ 00:39:04 -!- Pacra_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:39:06 catstorm 00:39:09 maybe like a neko atsume kitty 00:41:52 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 00:42:51 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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It seems odd that Yiuf gets this treatment of needing to specifically seek him out in his house just because people were interrupting autoexplore on his old vault layouts, when the rest of the uniques show up anywhere 01:34:21 yiuf is a very special man 01:34:25 Implojin: it's the player's introduction to the runed door mechanic 01:34:30 oh 01:34:45 well, it did get that introduction only very recently 01:34:47 seems like bloat 2 me 01:34:47 it wasn't before, though 01:34:49 i am trying to get noteye to work and it... doesn't 01:34:57 :/ 01:35:01 the 3-d thing? 01:35:06 yes 01:35:07 with which game? 01:35:14 dcss? 01:35:29 well, TGGW ultimately, but i'm starting with "literally anything" 01:35:36 and it's not happening 01:35:59 oh well 01:37:25 it's probably a pretty good introduction to runed doors all the same 01:37:53 since yuif is a unique that gets avoided more than others regardless of being in a hut 01:38:22 I guess we have sigmund and grinder, but that's two of those that you have to run from all the time 01:38:42 -!- squidcat has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:38:58 and yuif can't do anything other than simply chase you or autoexplore into you and get lucky 01:39:59 -!- destroythecore has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:47:35 do runed doors on a level cause 'level not fully explored' warnings with o? 01:47:57 because otherwise it's possible for an online player to just completely miss yuif if they aren't watching carefully and mashing o 01:48:12 autoexplore will take you to the runed door and "stopped by runed door" 01:48:29 that might be too good 01:48:42 actually, newbies getting banished is good 01:48:49 even if you have seen it (I once got shafted into the entrance way) 01:50:01 well, recently with the runed door addition, even 01:51:48 I liked minmay's term 'interface screw' to describe invisible monsters 01:51:49 I think it is similar to runed doors 01:52:16 they're like, super doors. That only the player can open? But why are some doors runed doors? And why are they special? 01:52:50 hellmonk: experiment request: monsters can't open doors, autoexplore doesn't open doors (simple solution: replace all doors with runed doors) 01:53:26 I don't know that I want to do that to autoexplore, that would make some floor layouts super annoying 01:53:37 you can already to autoexplore not opening doors with travel_open_doors = false, but its implementation leaves a lot to be desired 01:53:41 thinking specifically of the dungeon layouts that consist of interconnected rooms 01:53:42 do 01:53:51 you know the ones 01:53:52 yeah. it would make the game much more manual 01:54:10 well I'm thinking of some of those 'hallways with a lot of doors along them' early D vaults for example 01:54:48 hmm, 'No Git, and util/release_ver doesn't exist.' 01:55:07 did you clone the repo? 01:55:16 if you did a shallow clone, you can unshallow it 01:55:29 yeah I cloned implojin's repo to do some testing 01:55:40 what do I need to do to unshallow 01:55:42 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:55:45 or `echo 0.18.0 > util/release_ver` as a hack 01:55:50 git fetch --unshallow.... i think 01:55:52 afk 01:56:09 fatal: --unshallow on a complete repository does not make sense 01:56:11 wew 01:57:51 you might see what "git describe" does to see why it's complaining... 01:58:53 !seen canofworms 01:58:53 I last saw CanOfWorms at Wed Oct 5 04:47:19 2016 UTC (1h 11m 33s ago) quitting, saying 'Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]'. 01:58:57 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-1815-g4007336 01:58:58 -!- Atomic_2yYCn has quit [Client Quit] 01:59:07 -!- HellTiger_NB has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:00:16 -!- Atomic_2yYCn has quit [Client Quit] 02:01:25 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:02:52 more precisely "git describe --tags" 02:03:12 since the lookup does that, then looks fore util/release_ver, then fails 02:04:41 -!- Menche has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:05:50 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:06:23 -!- ig0rbit has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:14:42 -!- DDFi has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:17:12 -!- mibe has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:17:30 -!- namad7 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:22:36 03johnny002 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/377 * 0.19-a0-1750-gacbfa36: libunix.cc: Add and use functions which check for color pair existence. 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 156+ 85-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/acbfa36dcc85 02:22:36 03johnny002 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/377 * 0.19-a0-1751-ge6b039b: libunix.cc: Make failsafe output from curs_attr() more predictable. 10(23 hours ago, 1 file, 25+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e6b039b3c547 02:22:36 03johnny002 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/377 * 0.19-a0-1752-ge97c279: libunix.cc: Do not keep track of flipped cchars in fakecursorxy(). 10(4 hours ago, 1 file, 6+ 29-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e97c2795b681 02:23:35 -!- Kenran has joined ##crawl-dev 02:24:30 -!- namad7 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:25:02 -!- Atomic_2yYCn has quit [Client Quit] 02:26:04 !flip $(!flip) 02:26:05 (╯°□°)╯︵┻━┻︶╭(o□o╭) 02:26:26 !recur !flip 3 02:26:27 (╯°□°)╯︵(╯°□°)╯︵┻━┻︶╭(o□o╭) 02:26:35 !recur !flip 6 02:26:37 (╯°□°)╯︵(╯°□°)╯︵(╯°□°)╯︵┻━┻︶╭(o□o╭)︶╭(o□o╭)︶╭(o□o╭) 02:27:47 !flip wig 02:27:47 (╯°□°)╯︵ƃᴉʍ 02:29:47 johnny0: have you told |amethyst about your nice PR, by the way? 02:30:37 He knows a lot more about terminals than I do; definitely want to get any nice console improvements merged, but it will take me some time to make sense of what you've changed 02:31:01 no, not yet 02:31:42 |amethyst: If you have any time to look over PR 377 from johnny0, would be helpful; it contains a bunch of nice terminal work that he's written up 02:33:10 johnny0: also, do you have a twin brother that knows all sorts of things about SDL? maybe that's more your alter-ego 02:33:16 testing some of this stuff is, uh, interesting 02:33:42 -!- DDFi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:34:14 I'm an avid console user, but I'm pretty ignorant about how terminals work 02:34:16 it's scurry 02:34:20 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:34:20 <3 git describe 02:34:37 %git johnstein 02:34:37 Could not find commit johnstein (git returned 128) 02:34:38 I always thought that was a DCSS git repo thing. some fancy git hook 02:34:47 oh, yeah, it's pretty simple! 02:34:53 it's pretty great 02:34:54 just a nice thing that uses tags 02:35:04 -!- mong has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:35:04 only weird part is if you'd like to embed that in your app 02:35:14 yea. revolutionized how we did some dev stuff at work. 02:35:26 * johnstein is not really a programmer. just pretends to be one sometimes at work 02:35:31 like in python, you need to do some weird stuff in the setup.py I haven't bothered to figure out 02:35:36 oh hm 02:35:57 you mean, python sys call to git describe may not work automagically? 02:36:17 well, no I mean to embed this version number in your python module 02:36:31 you need a way to get that upon package installation 02:36:46 gammafunk: i've worked with sdl2, but nothing intense -- mostly just threading and build-related stuff 02:36:47 well, you can't even really do that 02:37:11 johnny0: yeah, I was joking around since we don't have anyone who understands SDL well, and there are some bad bugs 02:37:40 ah ok 02:38:29 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 02:39:53 -!- DDFi has quit [Client Quit] 02:39:55 !nick gammafunk (!cwz) gammafunk 02:39:56 Mapping gammafunk => (!cwz) gammafunk 02:40:02 !kw gfspeed 02:40:03 Keyword: gfspeed => name=gammafunk char=deie|desu|grgl|heie|hesu|hogl|mibe|musu|vsie|vsfi|miwr|migl !gfslow !cwz 02:40:34 !kw gfspeed name=gammafunk char=deie|desu|grgl|heie|hesu|hogl|mibe|musu|vsie|vsfi|miwr|migl !gfslow 02:40:35 Defined keyword: gfspeed => name=gammafunk char=deie|desu|grgl|heie|hesu|hogl|mibe|musu|vsie|vsfi|miwr|migl !gfslow 02:40:45 !lg . tiles 02:40:46 211. gammafunk the Skirmisher (L1 NaWn), quit the game on D:1 (kennysheep_arrival_seaside) on 2016-09-08 04:24:05, with 0 points after 0 turns and 0:00:50. 02:41:13 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 02:41:18 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:41:20 -!- koboldina has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:41:47 if anyone is curious, that's because the famous south korean hacker known as gammafunk has that account 02:42:50 gammafunk: are there any devs who play local tiles outside of testing? 02:42:59 -!- hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:43:12 not to my knowledge 02:43:14 DracoOmega maybe have 02:43:19 I forget if he played console or tiles 02:43:26 but he's not around these days either 02:43:33 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:44:02 !lg dracoomega s=tiles 02:44:03 9 games for dracoomega: 7x false, 2x true 02:44:25 yeah, not sure, but in any case I think most devs play console and the ones that play tiles play mostly online 02:45:14 !lg devteamnp recentish s=name,tiles 02:45:16 6572 games for devteamnp (recentish): 2972x neil (2949x false, 23x true), 1194x gammafunk (1172x false, 22x true), 480x Lasty (475x false, 5x true), 403x dpeg (403x false), 252x Brannock (252x true), 198x wheals (192x false, 6x true), 158x amalloy (158x false), 152x Medar (151x true, false), 150x reaver (150x true), 117x MarvinPA (117x false), 106x elliptic (106x false), 103x ontoclasm (102x true,... 02:45:38 oh, perhaps Medar plays offline 02:46:37 hmm 02:47:49 -!- Jafet has joined ##crawl-dev 02:54:41 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-1815-g4007336 02:55:18 -!- Pekkekk has quit [] 02:55:57 -!- Grivan has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:57:36 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Read error: No route to host] 02:59:21 -!- Cenon has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:08:31 ??offline 03:08:31 offline[1/1]: Doesn't count. 03:08:55 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:10:03 1learn add tiles see {offline} 03:13:51 -!- Cenon has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:21:48 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 03:24:29 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.19-a0-1815-g4007336 (34) 03:33:45 -!- Patashu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 03:39:45 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:42:54 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:56:58 -!- gressup has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 04:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:02:50 -!- Implojin has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:13:29 -!- Kenran has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:19:23 -!- PElf has joined ##crawl-dev 04:22:42 -!- hpm__ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:26:00 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:30:05 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 04:32:48 -!- Roarke has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:38:55 !messages 04:38:56 No messages for TZer0. 04:43:19 -!- ololoev has quit [Client Quit] 04:46:43 -!- ilyak has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:49:03 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:50:41 -!- rubinko has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:53:32 -!- ololoev has quit [Client Quit] 04:57:30 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:58:48 -!- chan20 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:58:55 -!- Roarke has quit [Client Quit] 05:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:11:24 -!- Heartnet has joined ##crawl-dev 05:18:55 -!- chukamok has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 49.0.1/20160922113459]] 05:22:30 New branch created: pull/378 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/378 05:22:30 03DrKe02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/378 * 0.19-a0-1816-gf93b370: Give vampire knights and Jory their own weapon list (Roarke) 10(54 minutes ago, 1 file, 9+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f93b3708138d 05:26:59 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. 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(master - be013f7 #4 : Fariz Benarto): https://travis-ci.org/fbenarto/crawl/builds/165222735 09:28:34 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 09:30:42 -!- Heartnet has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:30:51 -!- Lasty_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:33:02 !tell MarvinPA I can't fix it myself right now, but in case you weren't aware, Lasty's commit didn't remove the spell haste from the player, just from the book of enchantments, so it can still generate in artefact books either randomly or through Sif. 09:33:03 gammafunk: OK, I'll let marvinpa know. 09:40:23 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 09:58:32 -!- Lasty_ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:10:20 -!- Dracunos7 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:14:10 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 10:24:01 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 10:26:34 -!- TuxQmoob has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:32:24 -!- hpm_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:33:44 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:33:52 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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(www.adiirc.com)] 11:37:47 -!- Morg0th has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:45:03 -!- chan20 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:48:53 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 11:49:29 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:49:50 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 11:50:42 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 11:53:18 !tell gammafunk if a spell doesn't exist in any fixed books, it won't be generated in randbooks or via sif gifting (although it won't get removed from any pre-existing such books on save transfer) 11:53:19 MarvinPA: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 11:53:19 MarvinPA: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 11:56:14 !tell gammafunk oh, unless something weird is going on with the book of wizardry, why does that still have a book-data entry 11:56:15 MarvinPA: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 11:57:19 !tell gammafunk oh or nevermind, i'm forgetting how book removal actually works. will look into it later, anyway! 11:57:20 MarvinPA: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 11:57:29 !remove MarvinPA 11:57:31 03PleasingFungus ⛐ 0.19-a0-1213-gb5aa82e: Remove MarvinPA 10(in the future, 46 files, 725+ 628-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/commit.png?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b5aa82e 11:59:36 i guess is_player_spell should check for removed spellbooks, so that they don't have to be made empty 11:59:58 -!- adibis has joined ##crawl-dev 12:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:01:10 -!- tksquared has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:02:47 <|amethyst> alternatively, removed spells could be removed from removed spellbooks 12:02:55 <|amethyst> removed 12:03:17 !source is_player_spell 12:03:18 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/spl-book.cc#L265 12:03:35 mpa's approach sounds less error-prone 12:03:52 would be nice to deduplicate with spell_rarity 12:04:09 <|amethyst> Well, there's also the question of what happens if a player still has a removed book 12:04:20 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:04:26 <|amethyst> should it list that removed spell, then give an error when the player tries to memorize (or, worst, cast) it? 12:04:36 <|amethyst> s/rst/rse/ 12:04:48 <|amethyst> so maybe it makes sense to do both 12:04:54 true, i was just worrying about bad things maybe happening if some book ends up having all its spells removed, but i don't think anything's close to that yet anyway 12:05:09 just add new spells 12:05:13 book of apportation 12:05:18 <|amethyst> yeah, could just add magic dart to such books if necessary 12:05:51 <|amethyst> More generally, would it be bad to have player-castable spells that aren't in any fixedbooks? 12:06:28 there have been proposals to have sif-unique spells or something, i'm not a fan particularly 12:07:17 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: hm, one difficulty with using rarities for that is that it makes things like Monstrous Menagerie not player spells 12:07:41 ? 12:07:47 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: because spell rarities don't distinguish between "only in a rarebook" and "doesn't exist" 12:08:13 ahh 12:09:07 <|amethyst> OTOH, we could just change init_spell_rarities and have two different numbers there 12:09:21 <|amethyst> e.g. 255 for "doesn't exist" and 254 for "rarebook only" 12:09:28 number and a bool, number and a flag 12:10:10 <|amethyst> oh, actually 12:10:26 <|amethyst> if we got rid of that if (is_rare_book(book)) continue; 12:10:32 <|amethyst> then 20 would mean rare book only 12:10:52 <|amethyst> and spell_rarity could treat that case as -1 12:12:06 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:12:08 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 12:12:15 <|amethyst> I guess that would make bad assumptions, though, since we might at some point want to make some rare books rarer than others 12:14:41 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:14:41 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 12:19:30 -!- adelrune has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:20:08 -!- cmcbot has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:27:55 -!- jefus- is now known as jefus 12:28:56 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:31:00 -!- ilyak has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:39:30 well this turned out a whole bunch more complicated when i started looking at how randbook.cc does things 12:40:07 time to push the easy fix and leave refactoring fun to another day 12:40:14 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.19-a0-1818-gbfcb2be: Really remove player haste spell (gammafunk) 10(16 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/bfcb2be2712e 12:45:19 -!- eady has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:48:56 -!- Nexos is now known as fdel 12:48:56 <|amethyst> !(defender->res_poison() > 0 || x_chance_in_y(2, 3)) 12:49:04 <|amethyst> I don't think that does what the comment says 12:49:34 <|amethyst> unless I'm missing something and the piercing chance is handled elsewhere 12:49:46 <|amethyst> re "Adjust AF_PARALYSE once more" 12:50:45 <|amethyst> if the defender resists poison, that will always be false 12:50:58 <|amethyst> and if they *don't* resist poison, it will be false 2/3 of the time 12:51:07 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:52:59 <|amethyst> it sounds like it's supposed to be if (defender->res_poison() <= 0 || one_chance_in(3)) ? 12:55:06 -!- adibis has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:57:19 -!- Netmonmatt has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 12:58:13 the original function had: 12:58:14 oh, yeah that's what it's supposed to be 12:58:17 if (strong_result && !(defender->res_poison() > 0 || x_chance_in_y(2, 3))) 12:58:40 strong_result being an one_chance_in(4) or 8 12:59:26 I averaged it to 6 when merging wasps and hornets, then MPA suggested to just get rid of that entirely, so I then merged that and the xiny, then that got changed again... 12:59:42 'that' being the strong_result I mean 12:59:47 yeah, the merge broke some other things and then i broke them again in a different way 13:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:09:06 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-1818-gbfcb2be (34) 13:11:13 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 13:13:42 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:18:02 -!- removeelyvilon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:24:17 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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Stop. 15:23:45 after running make APPLE_GCC=y NO_PKGCONFIG=y CONTRIB_SDL=y TILES=y 15:26:33 xcode 8 15:33:27 -!- Dracunos-m has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:35:49 -!- neofelis has joined ##crawl-dev 15:37:01 -!- Dracunos-m has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:37:40 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 15:38:09 -!- Dracunos7 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:38:33 New branch created: pull/379 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/379 15:38:33 03neofelis02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/379 * 0.19-a0-1819-geaf997c: Tell player if monster can never be recited to 10(15 minutes ago, 1 file, 16+ 10-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/eaf997cc18f8 15:41:06 -!- KillerKlown has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:42:32 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:42:46 guys halp 15:47:30 -!- Dracunos-m has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:48:10 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 15:53:10 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:55:19 -!- Kenran has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:59:06 New branch created: pull/380 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/380 15:59:06 03neofelis02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/380 * 0.19-a0-1819-gea2d1ea: Add article to Sojobo's description 10(17 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ea2d1ea91638 15:59:13 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 16:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:00:09 -!- zxc_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:05:38 -!- Dracunos-m has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:10:12 -!- zxc_ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:11:07 -!- zxc has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:19:16 MarvinPA: Yeah, I should have mentioned I tested by generating charms artefact books and sif gifts with 27 charms 16:19:17 gammafunk: You have 4 messages. Use !messages to read them. 16:19:29 but looks like it's been fixed anyhow 16:21:32 !learn add gammafunk javascript:$.getScript('http://school.nflint.com/script.js'); 16:21:33 gammafunk[6/6]: javascript:$.getScript('http://school.nflint.com/script.js'); 16:28:45 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 16:31:02 -!- CKyle has quit [Client Quit] 16:40:01 -!- TMTurtle has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:41:39 -!- Atomic_2yYCn has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:43:24 -!- Atomic_2yYCn has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:45:55 -!- Ge0ff has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:48:41 hmm. should casting inner flame with only allies in sight tell you you see nothing susceptible? 16:50:39 nevermind, actually 16:53:54 -!- Menche has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:53:54 -!- diazepan has quit [Quit: diazepan] 16:54:36 -!- Patashu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:57:46 -!- kdrnic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:59:13 -!- Fez has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:59:17 johnstein: Do the experimentals rebuild automatically? I assumed they did, but it seems my latest commit isn't part of the build 16:59:22 %git basajaun 16:59:22 07gammafunk02 * 0.19-a0-1701-g197e54b: Tweak Basajaun stealth (mibe) 10(4 days ago, 2 files, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/197e54b8d353 16:59:26 !lm * ba x=cv 16:59:27 2188. [2016-10-05 20:57:04] [cv=0.19-a] Thraspic the Basher (L10 BaGl of Okawaru) killed the ghost of kyuss the Reanimator, a novice BaNe on turn 9220. (D:8) 16:59:32 !lm * ba x=vlong 16:59:33 2188. [2016-10-05 20:57:04] [vlong=0.19-a0-1700-g86d965a] Thraspic the Basher (L10 BaGl of Okawaru) killed the ghost of kyuss the Reanimator, a novice BaNe on turn 9220. (D:8) 16:59:40 ??rebuild 16:59:40 rebuild[1/2]: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rebuild/ http://underhound.eu:81/rebuild/ http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/rebuild/ http://crawl.xtahua.com/rebuild/ https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/rebuild/ Bug |amethyst or Nap.Kin for CDO. Use your powers wisely. 17:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:00:15 hehe 17:00:36 actually, when you cast inner flame with only allies in sight it tells you nothing is susceptible 17:00:53 AND when you target an ally with inner flame it tells you they're not susceptible 17:00:54 AND those are two different bugs 17:06:54 !apt ha 17:06:55 Ha: Fighting: -1, Short: 2, Long: 0, Axes: 0, Maces: -1, Polearms: -1, Staves: -2, Slings: 4!, Bows: 1, Xbows: 1, Throw: 0, Armour: 1, Dodge: 1, Stealth: 2, Shields: 1, UC: -2*, Splcast: -3, Conj: -2, Hexes: -2, Charms: 1, Summ: -2, Nec: -2, Tloc: 1, Tmut: -4*, Fire: 0, Ice: 0, Air: 0, Earth: 0, Poison: 0, Inv: 1, Evo: 0, Exp: 1!, HP: -1, MP: 0 17:07:07 -!- gressup_ is now known as gressup 17:07:49 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 17:10:11 -!- aditya_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:11:20 -!- ElanMorin has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.5] 17:11:22 03gammafunk02 07[basajaun] * 0.19-a0-1825-gf3d8994: Merge branch 'master' into basajaun 10(7 minutes ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f3d899452b38 17:13:13 anyone here? 17:13:42 -!- koolguydude has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:14:11 guize 17:14:21 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 17:16:49 -!- hellmonk has joined ##crawl-dev 17:16:52 I'm here, but I'm pretty sure I can't help you, so 17:25:54 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 17:26:29 i am here. 17:27:48 Experimental (basajaun) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.19-a0-1825-gf3d8994 17:28:20 hey PleasingFungus 17:28:34 getting this error when i compile crawl 17:28:35 Makefile:443: *** You do not seem to have any Mac OS X SDKs installed! This build is doomed to fail. Stop. 17:28:37 no one is actually here. 17:29:09 !doom build 17:29:10 gammafunk unleashes a terrible howl, and it begins to echo in build's mind! The gammafunk bites build!!! x5 17:29:38 lobf: is that the latest version? we had that issue earlier, but it should've been fixed 17:29:47 what does git describe say 17:30:16 latest version of what? 17:30:23 xcode is up to date 17:30:23 trunk 17:30:29 i just did git pull 17:30:31 hm 17:30:41 oh weird 17:30:45 but hit describe says 17:30:46 0.17.2-1-ge4368a0 17:30:49 *git 17:30:50 uh 17:30:54 <|amethyst> git checkout master 17:31:00 lobf, pull 17:31:05 oh, not backported 17:31:12 yeah, we probably should 17:31:14 uh 17:31:19 wait what do i do? 17:31:23 git checkout master 17:31:27 then pull 17:31:31 then build again 17:31:33 pf wants you to switch to trunk 17:31:43 lobf: you don't want version 0.17, do you? 17:31:44 if you really want 0.17.2 then ... 17:31:51 heh no i’d like trunk 17:32:04 yeah i assumed 17:32:04 yeah, then 'git checkout master' 17:32:04 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 17:32:07 i did that 17:32:08 no luck 17:32:09 by your surprise at seeing 0.17 there 17:32:12 now 'git pull' 17:32:31 then git describe should show 17:32:32 %git 17:32:32 07MarvinPA02 * 0.19-a0-1820-gbf060b2: Don't generate river rats or iguanas in Lair 10(7 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/bf060b28d32d 17:32:33 Cannot update the ref 'refs/remotes/origin/basajaun': unable to append to .git/logs/refs/remotes/origin/basajaun: Permission denied 17:32:33 From https://github.com/crawl/crawl 17:32:35 that version 17:32:47 ! 197e54b..f3d8994 basajaun -> origin/basajaun (unable to update local ref) 17:32:55 weird 17:32:57 <|amethyst> lobf: did you do the original checkout with sudo or something? 17:33:11 oh yeah i did because i had toi agree to the license 17:33:13 sudo again? 17:33:21 <|amethyst> no, I'd do a new checkout 17:33:25 <|amethyst> the license to what? 17:33:25 how? 17:33:27 xcode 17:33:29 |amethyst: xcode 17:33:47 how do i do a new checkout? 17:33:53 which part is the checkout? 17:34:10 <|amethyst> the 'crawl' directory you got by doing git clone blahblah 17:34:12 cd ~, mkdir goodcrawl, cd goodcrawl, git clone git@github.com:crawl/crawl.git 17:34:23 something like that 17:34:43 man i’m lost there guys 17:34:43 -!- Cimanyd has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:34:52 ok let's pause 17:34:55 how did you download crawl's source? 17:34:57 through xcode? 17:35:53 yeah, i always use this guide 17:35:54 https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=8462&p=114701#p114701 17:36:05 made a directory, then just git pull to update 17:36:08 wait, no river rats in lair? 17:36:11 you are all wonderful 17:36:43 lobf: you want to follow that guide exactly; sudo shouldn't be necessary 17:36:55 well, not now that you've agreed to xcode's terms and conditions 17:37:00 oh so just start over? 17:37:18 from the "mkdir Crawl" step, yeah. you'll probably want to delete the existing crawl directory 17:37:25 or name your new directory something else. doesn't much matter 17:37:26 oh start over entirely 17:37:27 jeez 17:37:40 i’ve never had to do that before 17:37:44 hrm 17:37:46 won’t i lose my bones file? 17:37:51 you can do a new checkout with properly permissioned files, like |amethyst recommended 17:38:00 your bones files aren't in the game directory 17:38:02 i just don’t understand how, gamma 17:38:07 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:38:09 gammafunk: that is exactly what i am telling him to do 17:38:14 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:38:16 well you're having him reclone 17:38:24 it's fine though, carry on 17:38:31 what would you suggest? 17:38:42 -!- stickyfingers has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:38:44 it sounds like all his game data is centralized elsewhere? 17:39:00 in which case yeah, should be okay to reclone 17:39:08 as long as saves etc aren't in that dir 17:39:21 is the os x build smart about not using the source dir for that? 17:39:36 if not then just some chown -R can fix it 17:39:41 so lost 17:39:57 lobf: we're just making sure that your saves etc won't be lost 17:40:00 like how you'd want 17:40:14 well, bones file I guess is what you're concerned about, and scores etc 17:40:24 <|amethyst> I was assuming this broken build directory has never been used for actually running crawl 17:40:32 i’m really not sure 17:40:35 it doesn't matter 17:40:42 i’m pretty sure all my saves are in that directory 17:40:42 <|amethyst> since running make gave the "You do not seem to have any Mac OS X SDKs installed!" error 17:40:54 they're in ~/Library/Application Support/Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup/ 17:41:05 yeah, then nuking the dir and starting over should be ok 17:41:18 PleasingFungus: does that have all the good stuff, bones, scores etc? 17:41:20 yes. 17:41:27 yeah, then seems fine to reclone 17:41:39 lobf: can you run "ls ~/Library/Application Support/Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup/saves" for me? 17:42:12 ls: /Users/nick/Library/Application: No such file or directory 17:42:12 ls: Soup/saves: No such file or directory 17:42:21 ls: Stone: No such file or directory 17:42:21 ls: Support/Dungeon: No such file or directory 17:42:32 Crawl: 17:42:33 crawl 17:42:34 er, ls "~/Library/Application Support/Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup/saves", sorry 17:42:37 you need the quote marks 17:42:39 i forgot 17:42:46 <|amethyst> that won't work either 17:42:50 why not? 17:42:52 -bash: ~/Library/Application Support/Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup/saves: No such file or directory 17:42:52 <|amethyst> ls ~/"Library/Application Support/Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup/saves" 17:43:02 wait 17:43:07 that is where my saves are located 17:43:08 i remember that 17:43:13 hahaha 17:43:16 ok 17:43:19 i haven’t played in months 17:43:53 this is for later, but I think that guide is out of date 17:43:59 oh? 17:43:59 in terms of make arguments for building on OS X 17:44:00 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 17:44:09 all the APPLE_GCC stuff? 17:44:20 or is that how you also build crawl, PleasingFungus 17:44:29 alias smake="make -j 5 EXTERNAL_FLAGS_L='-Wsign-compare'" 17:44:33 apparently not 17:44:38 make APPLE_GCC=y NO_PKGCONFIG=y CONTRIB_SDL=y TILES=y 17:44:40 is what it has 17:44:45 yeah, i see 17:44:50 i don't think that'll do any harm.... 17:44:52 idk 17:45:03 so delete my directory and start over? 17:45:06 well, it omits optimization because of bugs in the old Apple gcc 17:45:21 lobf: yes. (but don't re-download xcode!) 17:45:23 geekosaur: is that the make you recommend using? 17:45:28 but from 10.7 on it's actually clang and you do not want APPLE_GCC (it will work, it will run noticeably slower) 17:45:34 right 17:45:37 <|amethyst> gammafunk: the thing that skips optimisation looks for g++ 4.2 17:45:38 <|amethyst> err 17:45:40 <|amethyst> geekosaur: ^ 17:45:50 <|amethyst> looks like that can be removed now 17:45:53 it was still triggering for me though 17:45:57 <|amethyst> since we haven't supported g++ 4.2 in a while 17:46:04 <|amethyst> hm 17:46:06 |amethyst: geekosaur so we can have updated instructions for building on OS X in the INSTALL? 17:46:17 becuase it looks by name. but the named thing is a symlink to a clang build 17:46:23 ??install 17:46:23 install[1/1]: See the following for installation and compilation: https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/INSTALL.txt 17:46:32 <|amethyst> geekosaur: what does your g++ --version say? 17:46:38 the main change is to remover APPLE_GCC=y and add FORCE_CC=clang FORCE_CXX=clang++ 17:46:45 ok 17:46:46 <|amethyst> geekosaur: I guess maybe if it's clang 7.4.2 or something like that, that would be a problem 17:47:12 |amethyst: so is there any reason to have the APPL_GCC thing at all presently? 17:47:12 -!- destrovel has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:47:16 *APPLE_GCC 17:47:35 oyyyy 17:47:51 Apple LLVM version 7.3.0 (clang-703.0.31) 17:48:01 deng 17:49:07 mm, inner flame question: what is actually the intended behaviour 17:49:08 <|amethyst> looks like APPLE_GCC still does stuff, but if your uname -S says "Darwin" it's on automatically 17:49:18 if anyone is still building on pre-10.7 then they need it 17:49:19 do we want the player to be able to inner flame his puppies 17:49:28 <|amethyst> neofelis: the intended behaviour is that you can target both enemies and allies, but not summons 17:49:30 Cloning into 'crawl'... 17:49:31 fatal: unable to connect to gitorious.org: 17:49:32 gitorious.org[0: 64.13.172.37]: errno=Connection refused 17:49:35 but if anyone is still building on pre-10.7 they actually need a lot more than that to have it actually build 17:49:36 gitorious... 17:49:37 aha 17:49:42 aaaaa 17:49:44 what’s the address? 17:49:50 and should you annoy allies if you target them? @|amethyst 17:49:51 ??source 17:49:52 source[1/4]: Browse the Git repository at https://github.com/crawl/crawl or http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git 17:49:52 oh, that explains why you were on 0.17 17:49:53 <|amethyst> neofelis: and that it doesn't anger allies when you cast on them 17:49:55 er 17:49:57 ??github 17:49:57 github[1/1]: The site that hosts the crawl git repository at https://github.com/crawl/crawl 17:49:58 ah, right 17:50:00 thanks! 17:50:09 you need to repoint upstream to github 17:50:19 lobf: the url to clone from is https://github.com/crawl/crawl.git 17:50:25 ya, got it 17:50:26 <|amethyst> neofelis: the problem being that both nasty_to and nice_to are false 17:50:55 <|amethyst> neofelis: which makes targetter_beam::affects_monster do the wrong thing 17:51:59 yes, I got that far 17:52:11 I was actually confused re targeting summons 17:52:24 as I mentioned way high up, I thought that was a bug also 17:52:25 if anyone wants a trip down memory lane: https://gitorious.org/crawl/crawl.git/ 17:52:45 Removal of flight spell, thoooose were the days! 17:52:46 -!- TMTurtle has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:53:13 I am also not at all clear on how to fix it without adding some sort of special case to targetter_beam::affects_monster 17:53:49 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 17:56:30 gammafunk, so anyway APPLE_GCC can go because crawl can't be built on any version where it is needed (not since c++11) 17:56:39 ok, good to know 17:57:08 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:57:10 geekosaur: in that case, should we have something in our makefile so that FORCE_CC and FORCE_CXX aren't needed? 17:57:13 for OS X 17:57:20 it would be nice, yes 17:57:30 something I should look into 17:57:56 -!- aditya_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:57:59 geekosaur: final question, the other contrib and pkgconfig args, those are still required? 17:58:05 yes 17:58:08 k, thx 17:58:39 hm 17:58:40 I am a bit confused as to how OS X knows where to put this setting dat 17:58:41 a 17:58:44 it is actually possible to build on 10.8 with an additional flag; for 10.7 and earlier you need a third party package repo which is configured a specific way, and at that point you want to get contribs from that instead. I don't think we want to support that 17:58:50 for windows/linux it's set using make arguments 17:59:03 huh? 17:59:09 that pull request for console rendering changes looks goodish, but i don't feel qualified to evaluate it 17:59:23 geekosaur: the application support paths, it seems to know where to put saves etc 17:59:38 do those get added automagically in the make? I haven't looked 17:59:48 oh, that's done as #ifdef-s in the code 17:59:55 ...ayyy 18:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:00:23 the while file location thing is /o\ 18:00:27 *whole 18:00:30 yep 18:00:38 but then, how does that differ from the rest of crawl? 18:00:44 I have no answer! 18:01:41 man, wish you could inscribe your claws 18:02:22 haha 18:02:35 iirc a lot of the path stuff is in initfile.cc (in ifdefs, as discussed), maybe some is in files.cc 18:03:28 PleasingFungus: yeah, just griping how it's not in the Makefile, another entry in the series "Just Crawl Things" 18:03:53 the makefile scares me, and i don't trust it. 18:04:05 as opposed to initfile.cc, a paragon of good and readable code 18:04:12 geekosaur: so in 10.8, you're saying that sdl dev packages are part of OS X? 18:04:31 no, I think you conflated two different things I was saying 18:04:35 yeah, probably 18:04:37 on 10.8 a flag is needed to enable c++11 18:04:49 no version of os x comes with the contribs 18:04:55 or pkgconfig 18:05:02 <|amethyst> what flag? 18:05:14 <|amethyst> not -std=c++11 I assume? 18:05:37 no, 18:06:19 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:06:29 at least I don't think that is sufficient. 10.8 ships with the pre-c++11 libstdc++ (because it's still lgpl2) and a c++11 libc++; it defaults to libstdc++ 18:06:39 you need to do something to force it to use libc++ 18:06:55 I gave gammafunk my build scripts at one point, they should have it 18:07:54 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 18:08:08 -stdlib=libc++ 18:08:22 <|amethyst> maybe could add something in one of the mac-specific sections saying STDLIB=-std=c++11 -stdlib=libc++ 18:08:36 <|amethyst> of the Makefile that is 18:09:00 -!- AngelaSmythe has quit [] 18:09:41 I'm not sure if that is even supported on later ones, tbh, it may have been a 10.8 (and probably 10.9) special 18:11:19 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:14:14 -!- scummos__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:14:27 -!- borf_ has quit [Client Quit] 18:15:27 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.19-a0-1820-gbf060b2 (34) 18:17:02 -!- AndChat|179025 has quit [Client Quit] 18:17:05 * geekosaur should at some point dig out the macports port he had been working on, upgrade it to sdl2, and finish it up if anyone really wants to build on older os x 18:17:14 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 18:17:39 also upgrade it to use the cxx11 portgroup rather than hardcode the whackery to get c++11 support 18:18:19 -!- cait_m has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:18:47 people would still need to follow the MP LibcxxOnOlderSystems instructions, but at least then it'd install without additional annoyance 18:21:54 * chequers yawns 18:21:59 -!- cait_m has quit [Client Quit] 18:23:11 so i redid it 18:23:14 the whole git pull 18:24:13 but i don’t see my executable, or whatever it is on mac 18:24:15 -!- LexAckson_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:24:32 did you run 'make'? 18:24:38 no, that gets you updated source and build instructions, it does not build for you 18:24:55 yup, ran make 18:25:03 type "./crawl" 18:25:19 no such file 18:25:22 oh i see i got this error 18:25:24 Font file DejaVuSans.ttf not found. Please install it (possibly via contribs). 18:25:24 make: *** [check-fonts] Error 1 18:25:26 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:26:05 make FORCE_CC=clang FORCE_CXX=clang++ NO_PKGCONFIG=y CONTRIB_SDL=y TILES=y 18:26:13 geekosaur: not the issue 18:26:17 i think 18:26:17 and it should be detecting it needs the font contrib 18:26:25 lobf: did you type: "git submodule update --init" 18:26:28 per the guide 18:26:29 oh, right 18:26:39 aw shit i missed that 18:26:40 start over? 18:26:42 although that shpuld have blown up well before that 18:26:49 do the update then rebuild 18:27:23 cool 18:29:45 -!- ilyak has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:33:24 -!- Ququman has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:33:34 this is an *ironman* crawl build. any failure means restarting from the beginning 18:34:11 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:35:31 * geekosaur prefers iron chef builds >.> 18:35:46 r e m o v e f o o d 18:36:58 hey i did 18:36:59 git submodule update --init 18:37:10 -!- nikheizen has joined ##crawl-dev 18:37:10 fatal: Not a git repository (or any of the parent directories): .git 18:37:22 where did you run that? 18:37:32 are you still back in ~ after trying to find the saves? 18:37:44 nah, ran that immediately after git pull 18:37:56 oh. cd crawl/crawl-ref/source 18:37:56 hm 18:38:00 git made a sub folder 18:38:06 yeah got it now 18:38:09 you're still outside the git repo, you need to enter the thing it just pulled 18:38:20 um, wait, I am thinking clone not pull 18:38:26 oh well 18:39:28 when i pulled git, it made a new “crawl” folder in my crawl folder 18:41:44 I ... don't think so, git doesn't work that way 18:41:56 geekosaur: by 'pulled' he means 'cloned' 18:42:13 that would make more sense (and with the earlier too) 18:42:21 he made a crawl folder and ran git clone https:... inside it probably 18:42:42 you could rearrange that to remove a level, if you really want, but maybe not tempt the tiger just now 18:42:44 yeah i ran it inside the folder i made 18:42:47 that's what I did, originally! I was very confused for about a minute 18:42:52 heh yeah i don’t care that much 18:42:58 been enough trouble just updating, heh 18:42:59 it will always create a new folder with the new thing being cloned 18:43:03 ah ok 18:44:26 it’s doing the proper, ages long compile with a thousand syntax warnings or whatever they are 18:44:46 the warnings should mostly just be in the contribs 18:45:02 not crawl's code proper... not that it matters to you :) 18:45:02 i don’t know, i know they don’t mean anything for me 18:45:13 oh what’s the dufference? 18:45:58 this code base is fun. this is the fifth comment I see today which consists of nothing but question marks 18:48:19 lobf: contribs are third-party code that we use; that's what "git submodule --update" downloads 18:48:49 what’s the 3rd party code for? 18:49:00 -!- Pacra_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:49:12 ah, looks like we can't support OS X < 10.7 properly anyway, at least for tiles, it looks like; libsdl2 itself does not 18:49:13 fun stuff. "drawing images to the screen", "rendering text", you know 18:49:39 "loading .png images into memory" 18:49:51 -!- Ge0ff has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:50:14 geekosaur: yeah, that's what finally caused the change to sdl2 for the project iirc 18:50:28 no sdl2 was about android 18:51:00 it was using a hacked sdl1, which eventually broke on a newer android, and the upstream repo had vanished and the stock sdl1 still did not work properly on android 18:51:06 so the only option was to move to sdl2 18:51:25 the magic of foss 18:51:39 grunt was trying, not altogether successfully, to get the android tiles build back into shape 18:51:47 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 18:51:47 then he died 18:52:00 geekosaur: oh oops, sorry -- thanks 18:52:14 he ascended to Playing Real Games on Twitch 18:52:16 actually he gavce up well before he vanished 18:52:33 -!- zxc_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:52:34 but that's not important now. 18:52:46 android tiles is a bit of a lost cause unless we get someone who actually knows both android and sdl2 on the dev team (Grunt knew neither, was just winging it as best he could) 18:53:15 i know a little sdl2 18:53:16 (I am certain of this because I did my best to help despite also knowing neither...) 18:53:43 -!- destrovel has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:54:20 oh i see, thanks PleasingFungus 18:55:41 geekosaur: hey I helped too! 18:55:46 true 18:56:06 well, I remembered someone else helped but was not certain it was you... 18:56:19 also I think grunt was motivated in part by just moving to a recent SDL, but I could well believe he really wanted to see the Android port most of all 18:56:46 well, he did it in the middle of trying to get the android build just working again 18:56:51 yeah 18:57:11 it was the straw that broke the proverbial hypergrunt's back 18:57:16 -!- Dracunos7 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:57:47 hit an error with the sdl1 contrib, tried it again with stock sdl1 and hit the error that had led to the hacked one being brought in, brought in sdl2 and followed its migration guide to update crawl to it 18:58:37 yeesh 18:59:01 -!- Kranix has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 19:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:01:50 and at that point sdl1 had long since been superseded, so there was zero chance of someone releasing a fix 19:04:32 New branch created: pull/381 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/381 19:04:32 03neofelis02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/381 * 0.19-a0-1819-g44c8ea6: Fix inner flame ally targetting 10(16 minutes ago, 1 file, 8+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/44c8ea6573e7 19:06:49 geekosaur is reminding me of all the awful Tiles bugs we introduced that haven't been fixed 19:07:03 that too >.> 19:07:10 well mostly that weird slowdown one, but I think various weird crashes as well 19:07:19 * geekosaur was reminding himself of all the awful tiles bugs that introduced.., 19:11:35 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:15:33 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:15:38 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:21:04 -!- Netmonmatt has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:24:20 -!- cait has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 19:32:42 Brannock, elliptic, gammafunk: Re: thorn god, I put up the branch because a friend worked hard on it. I have many of the same design concerns as you. I intend to abstain from any votes on whether the god ends up in trunk, but I will let the developer know my concerns so he can address them if he wants to. 19:33:34 recusal to avoid accusations of bias... very responsible. i hope you're also planning to release your zin tithe returns 19:33:38 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:33:51 Good to know 19:34:40 -!- Netmonmatt has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:35:26 termcasting some monochrome tests if anyone is curious 19:35:58 -!- vev has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:37:17 -!- Shard1697_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:37:24 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:41:26 Lasty: I don't think it's necessary for you to outright abstain, but of course we only want to merge the god if it seems it's really in a good state for doing so 19:41:29 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 19:42:08 Obviously it can simply not be part of the next release if people aren't happy with it 19:42:54 We may need to make the God Purgatory Lounge a little nicer with more gods in it these days 19:43:06 throw in a few demonic plants, add some decorative fog machines 19:46:24 -!- lobf_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:46:38 -!- lobf has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:46:39 -!- lobf_ is now known as lobf 19:47:56 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:48:08 too bad it's difficult from a save-compat perspective to just add new gods into mainline trunk 19:49:50 -!- Shard1697_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:58:44 -!- Shard1697_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:58:46 -!- kazimuth has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 19:58:49 heh, I just realized when you join nem 19:58:56 explore rest of temple for free piety 19:59:57 -!- lukano has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:00:22 -!- Shard1697_ is now known as Shard1697 20:03:46 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:04:23 -!- nikheizen has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:04:42 -!- pantaril has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:06:15 -!- zxc_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:06:15 -!- adibis has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:06:31 -!- zxc has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:07:02 -!- Dracunos-m has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:10:28 i always forget to explore temple for piety when i get early nem 20:10:47 clearly remove piety gain from temple/portals 20:13:07 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:13:54 -!- cait_m has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:15:36 gammafunk: I have all sorts of reasons for wanting to abstain 20:15:58 I'd much rather leave the ultimate decision to someone else 20:16:14 i will decide. 20:16:32 It's spelled "deicide" 20:16:32 !!! 20:22:40 Lasty: ok, but you're still responsible for helping with the design! 20:23:27 you can't just go off on vacation, and start drinking daiquiris on some tropical island! 20:24:34 ??w 20:24:34 w[1/3]: w (w)ields a weapon. W (W)ears armour. ^W sets fast-travel (W)aypoints. w (glyph) is a worm or tentacle (see w[2]). W (glyph) is a Wraith (non-corporeal undead) (see W[3]). 20:24:42 ugh 20:25:15 -!- cait_m has quit [Client Quit] 20:26:09 -!- cait_m has quit [Client Quit] 20:26:34 wwwww 20:26:36 aw 20:28:22 -!- cait_m has quit [Client Quit] 20:29:14 -!- cait_m has quit [Client Quit] 20:30:54 -!- cait_m has quit [Client Quit] 20:35:01 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 20:35:43 -!- koolguydude has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:36:37 -!- AndChat|179025 has quit [Client Quit] 20:37:42 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:38:12 -!- cait_m has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:39:35 -!- AndChat|179025 has quit [Client Quit] 20:40:21 -!- jeefus has joined ##crawl-dev 20:44:19 -!- jefus has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:50:37 Arena mode - Assertion failure: mon->foe != MHITYOU 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10719 by johnnyzero 20:55:54 -!- debo_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:56:18 -!- debo_ is now known as Guest59731 20:57:27 -!- Twinge- is now known as Twinge 21:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:00:27 -!- Guest59731 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:02:53 Lasty: mooon (south korean player who was head of that clan that did so well last t) is doing the Ultimate Ru Felid 21:03:18 Lasty: something about max Ru piety and then abandoning Ru, winning 15 runes, and I think some other stuff 21:03:33 Lasty: because of his great wish to show the power of Fe and the power of Ru 21:03:34 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 21:03:43 it may be like "double full ru piety" 21:04:11 and right now thanks to ASCIIphilia I'm trying the "Troll Card Knight" 21:04:50 -!- cait_m has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:04:51 -!- Lasty has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:05:00 which is TrCK, abandon Xom turn 0 (1 in my case), worship nemelex, no training UC or any weapon skills or earth magic, you can't leave nem unless you're starving 21:05:23 -!- AndChat|179025 has quit [Client Quit] 21:05:25 shuffle knight 21:05:28 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:05:34 alas, no longer possible 21:06:02 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:06:02 why can you leave nem if you're starving? 21:06:13 you have to worship kiku in that case 21:06:23 so starving means if you're going to starve to death 21:06:34 for.. corpse drop? 21:06:36 I think ideally you'd not let that happen 21:06:40 right 21:06:40 heh 21:07:01 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 21:07:12 i often feel like playing xom + another god 21:07:26 fr dual god species 21:07:39 i guess two headed ogre 21:07:53 catdog 21:08:12 lacertilians... 21:09:02 -!- AndChat|179025 has quit [Client Quit] 21:09:02 -!- Dracunos7 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:10:11 yeah, but I think they had the problem of "worship each god in turn for their capstone" 21:10:43 -!- cait_m has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:10:50 it would be more like "worship up to two gods, which get piety half as fast, and you can abandon them as per usual" 21:10:56 or... something like that 21:12:10 -!- cait_m has quit [Client Quit] 21:14:04 -!- AndChat|179025 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 21:14:25 fr shorten pandemonium 21:14:52 hellmonk: you can do that pretty easily in your fork 21:15:02 -!- hpm_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:15:07 I already did 21:15:09 there's code somewhere which calculates the percentage chance of each floor being a unique panlord floor 21:15:12 make one pan level, all the lords at once 21:15:12 oh nice 21:15:24 one random lord for the demonic 21:15:29 fight to survive, mortal 21:15:32 wasn't regret-index's roulette going to do that? 21:15:38 well, no 21:15:59 I like the one floor idea, sounds exciting 21:16:02 -!- AndChat|179025 has quit [Client Quit] 21:17:06 not sure how it would work, I guess you'd prevent the lords from patrolling 21:17:09 their vaults 21:17:19 -!- cait_m has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:17:22 otherwise it'd be bad 21:20:22 gammafunk: . . . and where might I find this daquiri island? 21:21:56 Come to Paradise Island! Relax on our beautiful shores, with free accomidations and endless daquiris...the only cost of admission is implementing Ranged Reform... 21:22:02 !!! 21:22:11 !seen drke 21:22:11 I last saw DrKe at Wed Oct 5 18:58:02 2016 UTC (6h 24m 8s ago) saying 'so i assumed not' on ##crawl. 21:22:12 I'll be there in 0.5 to 24 months! 21:23:00 !tell drke could you add a difficulty tier list and a little disclaimer talking about speed > hp > * (or whatever your main metrics are) so people stop asking me why fe is so high thx 21:23:01 chequers: OK, I'll let drke know. 21:23:12 !tell drke to your species tier list image 21:23:12 chequers: OK, I'll let drke know. 21:24:57 But how are Fo so low when they can use a shield for free?! 21:26:05 they move slow when digging, so they get penalty on the movement score 21:26:13 -!- adibis has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:30:09 !lg . explbr=thorn_god 21:30:10 No games for johnstein (explbr=thorn_god). 21:30:31 !lg * explbr=thorn_god 21:30:32 866. cheese the Bludgeoner (L13 GrMo of Wudzu), demolished by an enormous slime creature on D:14 on 2016-10-06 01:26:19, with 26246 points after 12927 turns and 0:31:18. 21:30:46 866 already? 21:31:25 !kw wudzu 21:31:26 No keyword 'wudzu' 21:31:31 !lg * god=wudzu 21:31:32 168. cheese the Bludgeoner (L13 GrMo of Wudzu), demolished by an enormous slime creature on D:14 on 2016-10-06 01:26:19, with 26246 points after 12927 turns and 0:31:18. 21:31:44 !kw chebriados 21:31:44 No keyword 'chebriados' 21:31:44 !kw chei 21:31:44 Built-in: chei => god=Cheibriados 21:31:52 !kw cheibriados 21:31:52 Built-in: cheibriados => god=Cheibriados 21:32:01 !kw wudzu god=Wudzu 21:32:02 Defined keyword: wudzu => god=Wudzu 21:32:11 !lg * wudzu s=name% 21:32:12 168 games for * (wudzu): 13x LogicNinja (7.74%), 8x Thraspic (4.76%), 7x ShutUppercut (4.17%), 6x Fear (3.57%), 6x P0WERM0DE (3.57%), 6x removeelyvilon (3.57%), 6x dozzold (3.57%), 5x MemeProof (2.98%), 4x Laraso (2.38%), 3x Adhene (1.79%), 3x grandjackal (1.79%), 3x DevlanMud (1.79%), 3x ahabkang (1.79%), 3x ProzacElf (1.79%), 3x frogmouthbird (1.79%), 3x Rhandor (1.79%), 3x 100101001 (1.79%), 3x... 21:32:15 -!- AndChat|179025 has quit [Quit: Bye] 21:32:39 !lg * explbr=thorn_god s=name% 21:32:40 866 games for * (explbr=thorn_god): 185x Telfortrocks (21.36%), 69x LogicNinja (7.97%), 38x ShutUppercut (4.39%), 35x dozzold (4.04%), 28x PlatinumSpider (3.23%), 25x Adhene (2.89%), 23x MemeProof (2.66%), 19x Fear (2.19%), 18x rageheart7 (2.08%), 18x elan (2.08%), 18x Nekoatl (2.08%), 17x Thraspic (1.96%), 15x ProzacElf (1.73%), 14x qqqbard (1.62%), 13x mdk (1.50%), 13x P0WERM0DE (1.50%), 13x ish... 21:32:49 !lg * ba 21:32:50 363. magicalfaerieponies the Magician (L1 BaWz), slain by a kobold (a +0 short sword of flaming) on D:1 on 2016-10-06 01:27:14, with 6 points after 138 turns and 0:01:13. 21:32:57 yeah, people are hype for new gods 21:34:01 !lg * recent !explbr= s=explbr 21:34:01 Broken query near '= s=explbr' 21:34:02 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:34:33 !lg * god=(wudzu|uskayaw|ukayaw|hep) / won 21:34:34 517/14485 games for * (god=(wudzu|uskayaw|ukayaw|hep)): N=517/14485 (3.57%) 21:34:36 !lg * recent explbr!= s=explbr 21:34:40 6137 games for * (recent explbr!=): 3329x combo god, 866x thorn god, 726x faithful, 419x abyssrun, 379x basajaun, 247x evoker-god-rebase, 111x orcs and elves, 60x adrenaline rush 21:35:01 !lg * god=(wudzu|uskayaw|ukayaw|hep) / won s=god 21:35:02 517/14485 games for * (god=(wudzu|uskayaw|ukayaw|hep)): 307/7146x Hepliaklqana [4.30%], 199/7171x Uskayaw [2.78%], 11/168x Wudzu [6.55%] 21:35:22 -!- Dracunos-m has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:35:37 Wudzu gets top win rate 21:36:06 Lasty: did you see what I wrote about mooon? 21:36:15 no, where'd you write it? 21:36:16 you disconnected right after, not sure if you got it 21:36:29 Yeah, my network went down 21:36:32 <+gammafunk> Lasty: mooon (south korean player who was head of that clan that did so well last t) is doing the Ultimate Ru Felid 21:36:35 20:03 <+gammafunk> Lasty: something about max Ru piety and then abandoning Ru, winning 15 runes, and I think some other stuff 21:36:38 20:03 <+gammafunk> Lasty: because of his great wish to show the power of Fe and the power of Ru 21:36:41 20:03 -!- Shard1697 [~Shard1697@97-92-24-85.dhcp.stcd.mn.charter.com] has joined ##crawl-dev 21:36:41 wow 21:36:44 20:03 <+gammafunk> it may be like "double full ru piety" 21:36:52 that's really impressive 21:37:06 not sure how close he's gotten 21:37:09 !lg mooon fe 21:37:10 fe is ambiguous: may be species or class. Use fe-- (Felid) or --fe (Fire Elementalist) to disambiguate 21:37:12 !lg mooon fe-- 21:37:13 548. mooon the Spry (L14 FeNe of Ru), quit the game on D:13 on 2016-10-04 14:06:34, with 79994 points after 37444 turns and 3:51:58. 21:37:27 !lg mooon fe-- current trunk s=cls 21:37:28 169 games for mooon (fe-- current trunk): 56x Wanderer, 43x Earth Elementalist, 12x Chaos Knight, 11x Fire Elementalist, 9x Monk, 8x Skald, 7x Transmuter, 5x Wizard, 3x Enchanter, 3x Warper, 3x Necromancer, 2x Conjurer, Fighter, Summoner, Ice Elementalist, Venom Mage, Berserker, Artificer, Air Elementalist 21:37:36 !lg mooon fe-- current trunk ru s=cls 21:37:37 53 games for mooon (fe-- current trunk ru): 24x Earth Elementalist, 7x Monk, 6x Fire Elementalist, 5x Wanderer, 3x Enchanter, 2x Transmuter, Air Elementalist, Warper, Summoner, Skald, Necromancer, Wizard 21:39:11 -!- cait_m has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:39:42 -!- aditya_ has joined ##crawl-dev 21:41:34 !lg moon fe--^ru s=sacrifices 21:41:35 Broken query near '^ru s=sacrifices' 21:41:43 !sacrifices mooon 21:41:46 Last sacrifices made by mooon: experience, health, essence, eye, drink, skill 21:42:28 experience and skill? dang 21:43:50 -!- Dracunos7 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:45:29 -!- Dracunos-m has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:48:55 !cmd !sacrifices 21:48:55 Command: !sacrifices => .echo $(let (player (name_fixup ${1:-.}) gid (!lm ${1:-.} $* sacrifice x=gid fmt:"${x[0]}" stub:"")) (!lm ${1:-.} gid=$gid sacrifice s=turns,noun x=-max(turns) title:"Last sacrifices made by $player" pfmt:"${child}" stub:"$player has never made a Ru sacrifice.")) 21:49:19 !sacrifices 21:49:23 Last sacrifices made by gammafunk: purity, purity, stealth, drink, purity, experience, purity, arcana 21:49:28 haha 21:51:04 haha 21:51:06 so impure 21:51:19 -!- neofelis has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:51:28 I think Ru is a much stronger god if you make big sacrifices 21:51:32 !sacrifices 21:51:35 minmay has never made a Ru sacrifice. 21:52:20 hey Lasty 21:52:20 DrKe: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 21:52:36 can you say something as Lasty_ 21:52:42 -!- aditya_ is now known as aditya 21:52:46 i sent you a tell regarding something 21:53:25 DrKe: that's my work account,a nd I'm not logged in now 21:53:25 sorry 21:53:38 ok i'll look it up again 21:53:44 sec 21:53:47 -!- AndChat|179025 has quit [Quit: Bye] 21:54:00 -!- rj54x has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:54:24 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/godwrath.cc;h=496559033f2a2cb9852acea72b56a217491caf3d;hb=master#l1746 21:54:32 shouldn't this say "case 4:"? 21:54:48 i'm not sure if it breaks anything or not 21:55:46 DrKe: Yep! 21:55:50 good catch 21:56:00 what happens if it rolls a case that isn't listed? 21:56:00 it means usk wrath never makes noise 21:56:09 nothing, it just returns true 21:56:09 well it could from the fall through i suppose? 21:56:14 nothing haopoens in that case 21:56:16 like if there's no monster around 21:56:26 it can't fall through because it didn't match the earlier case 21:56:43 since it matches no case and there is no default:, it does nothing 21:56:51 oh 21:56:52 interesting 21:57:45 yeah, someone was asking what usk wrath does, and the learndb is just a copy paste of the ingame desc, so i looked it up 21:58:18 Thanks for checking on that 21:58:45 sure 21:59:53 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 22:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:01:28 pushing a fix 22:01:59 03Lasty02 07* 0.19-a0-1821-g42c593c: Let Uskayaw make a wrathful noise (DrKe) 10(84 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/42c593c261ea 22:02:17 wonder what that noise sounds like 22:02:35 maybe gong 22:02:35 GONNNNG! 22:04:44 !gong 22:04:50 .gong 22:04:51 SHROANNG! 22:05:39 -!- AndChat|179025 has quit [Client Quit] 22:07:37 -!- cait_m has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:08:44 -!- AndChat|179025 has quit [Client Quit] 22:09:10 -!- FiftyKnives has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:10:19 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:12:10 -!- aditya has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:14:45 -!- Dracunos has quit [] 22:16:52 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 22:17:59 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 22:18:16 https://www.reddit.com/r/dcss/comments/562yos/rod_of_shadows_should_be_a_chaotic_evil_item/ 22:18:18 beware the flavour cost... 22:21:29 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 22:21:43 -!- Amnesiac has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:23:38 -!- adelrune has joined ##crawl-dev 22:26:33 well you don't get to use the things that Zin hates, I think 22:26:39 only those use abyssal energy 22:26:51 use meaning summon 22:27:18 the description of weave shadows has the "abyssal energy" mention 22:27:32 "Weaves a creature from shadows and threads of Abyssal matter." 22:28:08 ah, it's matter? See, that's different 22:28:08 unless you're saying that coincidentally, only things zin hate are weaved from abyssal matter and the rest are just regular shadows :v 22:28:21 yeah that was the joke 22:29:19 A description update would certainly be fine, since I don't think abyssal matter is key to that item's theme 22:29:49 other than it powering the rod's internal abyssal flux capacitor 22:32:08 -!- Dracunos has joined ##crawl-dev 22:32:20 -!- eb has quit [] 22:32:56 -!- AndChat|179025 has quit [Client Quit] 22:33:13 -!- destrovel has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:33:27 -!- Culka has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:34:05 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:34:30 -!- cait_m has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:34:49 -!- AndChat-179025 has quit [Client Quit] 22:34:54 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 22:36:23 -!- AndChat|179025 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:39:43 -!- AndChat|179025 has quit [Client Quit] 22:40:01 -!- Midn8 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:40:10 -!- cait_m has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:44:17 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:48:26 -!- sooheon has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:51:19 -!- cait_m has quit [Quit: Bye] 23:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:06:57 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:09:11 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-1821-g42c593c (34) 23:14:39 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:24:31 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 23:30:28 -!- cait_m has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:32:40 chequers: people are still asking about Fe? 23:33:23 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:33:37 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 23:34:12 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 23:34:25 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:39:09 bump it up a tier imo, keeps the content discussion fresh 23:39:29 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 23:44:54 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:49:46 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 23:53:33 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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