00:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00:07 nice to meet you, espais. I take two days to grind through minor changes 00:00:21 PleasingFungus, crash reproduced 00:00:44 nice to meet you as well 00:01:27 Brannock: good! would be very funny if my guess about the problem was totally wrong 00:01:47 i must say i am quite impressed with how active you guys are in continuously improving dcss 00:01:55 -!- Krymise has joined ##crawl-dev 00:01:56 coming from nethack...having an active dev community is eye opening 00:02:18 the specific error I got was an assert in spl-util.cc at line 919 00:02:21 Will try out the minor tag 00:02:27 If that doesn't work then I'll just revert the commit 00:02:37 we're active, serious, and professional...we mean busines! 00:02:41 like i said, you don't actually need a minor tag 00:02:48 and it might be better to not use one 00:02:56 What would I use to check for an older version then? 00:03:02 you don't need to check for an older version 00:03:08 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 00:03:10 You've lost me here 00:03:17 I guess I just check to see if, uhh, corrupters have corrupt body 00:03:20 And replace it fi they do? 00:03:20 just put it in TAG_MAJOR_VERSION == 34 tags, and look for the corrupting body spell 00:03:25 you don't even need to check monster type 00:03:35 yeah 00:03:37 -!- Zxpr1jk has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:03:58 03gammafunk02 07* 0.19-a0-1787-gdf4f055: Some fixes and cleanups for alphashops (nicolae) 10(13 minutes ago, 2 files, 42+ 45-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/df4f0554a304 00:04:06 @gamma: rude dudes with crude tudes? 00:04:16 !source tags.cc:5676 00:04:17 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/tags.cc#L5676 00:04:21 Brannock: ^ this block 00:04:23 yeah I'd actually landed right there 00:04:24 as you linked me 00:04:27 nice! 00:04:27 good to know I'm on the same track 00:04:43 Oh good this will make cleaning up mottled/acid dragons much easier too 00:04:44 Thanks for the tip 00:05:03 -!- Krymise has quit [Client Quit] 00:05:45 someone playing a 0.18 HESk right now on CWZ, username "FuckingTrunk" 00:05:49 Is it literally as easy as 00:05:49 else if (slot.spell == SPELL_CORRUPT_BODY) 00:05:49 slot.spell = SPELL_CORRUPTING_PULSE; 00:06:06 I hate it when fixes are this easy 00:06:09 It makes me worry something's wrong 00:06:14 hm 00:06:37 oh I guess I should pushback it too 00:06:39 yeah 00:06:47 that is a weird way for that code to be written 00:06:56 hrm 00:07:13 I guess slot.spell is defined somewhere by calling the spell from the monster data 00:07:17 but you have to actually push it back into monster data 00:07:25 look at line 5672 00:07:29 and 5673 00:07:42 Yeah, that was it 00:07:47 we load up the spells, then we make a copy and wipe the original, then we load up most spells 00:08:17 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 00:09:45 -!- meatpath has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:10:14 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 00:10:37 bah, full rebuild required 00:10:54 enum.h, baby 00:12:51 -!- THERetroGamerNY has quit [Client Quit] 00:13:03 espais, well we (most of us?) do this for fun, so that helps with engagement :) 00:13:25 even if I'm a slow coder I enjoy tinkering with all this stuff 00:14:03 keep in mind that you are competing with people who have made literally thousands of commits on this project 00:14:11 so 'slow' is relative 00:14:54 I got criticized at my last job for being slow, though I don't think it was entirely my fault there (I had no mentoring whatsoever and was thrown solo into a badly-written code base with no documentation), but it's still on my mind occasionally 00:15:19 that sounds like something you'd read on thedailywtf 00:15:23 -!- knu has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:15:58 hmm, still getting the crash on load 00:16:13 ASSERT(index is -1) in 'spl-util.cc' at line 919 failed. 00:16:31 Oh it's from me removing a spell enum I think 00:16:39 maybe? 00:16:47 did you remove a spell enum 00:17:06 BEAM_CORRUPT_BODY was removed, SPELL_CORRUPT_BODY got tagged 34 00:17:16 %git 3adc94d7 00:17:16 07Brannock02 * 0.19-a0-1777-g3adc94d: Remove Corrupt Body 10(25 hours ago, 5 files, 1+ 37-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3adc94d73f76 00:17:55 i make like one commit a month so you are plenty fast enough 00:18:11 oh spl-data.h is the problem I think 00:18:39 oh 00:19:05 yeah, the spell should be in a TAG_MAJOR_VERSION == 34 block in spl-data.h 00:19:35 but that still seems weird... 00:20:03 ontoclasm, don't worry, I'm just venting frustration obliquely that I've spent an entire weekend messing with draconians and still have more to do 00:20:16 adding Corrupt Body back to spl-data.h fixes the crash 00:20:24 And the spell hsa been properly replaced with Pulse 00:20:54 I can't think of anything else to test for before pushing this fix... 00:21:32 i mean 00:21:42 i tried to fix draconians and gave up 00:21:48 because that code is a massive nightmare 00:22:00 and i've been working on this codebase for 2.5 years now 00:22:15 so if you spend a weekend on it, i don't think that's particularly "slow" 00:22:19 PleasingFungus, thank you for the heads up and the guidance on fixing this 00:22:27 np 00:22:34 ty for fixing it :) 00:22:46 03Brannock02 07* 0.19-a0-1788-g8eae0f7: Fix a save compatibility crash (Gerad) 10(2 minutes ago, 2 files, 16+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8eae0f7ff022 00:23:32 The current problem actually isn't draconians anymore, I'm just trying to badly replace breathe sticky flame with breathe acid splash, then halfway through realized I couldn't just change acid spit itself (since a lot of other things use it, not just dragons/draconians) and while trying to make an ACID_SPLASH version got all twisetd up and confused on what I was actually doing 00:23:41 so I went and read a book on a lawn chair all afternoon instead 00:23:51 I'll probably tackle it again tomorrow with a fresh mind 00:25:09 good book? 00:25:29 The Magicians, Lev Grossman 00:25:46 Good for mid 20s "what do I do with my life now" feelings 00:26:48 cool 00:28:03 !source godname.txt:109 00:28:06 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/database/godname.txt#L109 00:28:08 is this a typo or a britishism? 00:29:02 -!- Zannick has quit [Read error: error:1408F10B:SSL routines:SSL3_GET_RECORD:wrong version number] 00:29:12 britishism, apparently? 00:29:21 or just a variant 00:29:51 -!- Zannick has joined ##crawl-dev 00:29:53 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest98445 00:30:12 Xom of Gnomic Intent 00:30:19 -!- kaya_moon has quit [Quit: kaya_moon] 00:30:21 gnome no more 00:31:46 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.19-a0-1786-g230130f (34) 00:33:46 -!- Guest98445 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:34:37 PleasingFungus, you might enjoy this post: https://www.reddit.com/r/dcss/comments/55let1/all_has_been_foreseen_by_lugonu/ 00:35:46 -!- Taraiph has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:39:35 -!- kdrnic__ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:39:42 heh 00:41:50 what stood out to me was removing leather for extra stealth 00:42:05 but then autoexploring 00:42:37 -!- destroythecore has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:42:57 -!- kdrnic_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:43:02 seems legit 00:44:26 hmm, how to query !lm to check an AK getting abyssal rune as first rune? 00:44:32 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 00:45:24 can't you just put in a urune=1 00:45:37 that'd just grab the first rune found I think 00:45:43 unless I can also specify if it's the abyssal rune 00:46:06 !lm * ak rune=abyssal urune=1 00:46:07 56. [2016-09-01 19:31:20] glosham the Skirmisher (L1 VpAK of Lugonu) found an abyssal rune of Zot on turn 86. (Abyss:3) 00:46:18 56, nice 00:46:29 !lg glosham vpak 00:46:30 25. glosham the Skirmisher (L1 VpAK of Lugonu), blasted by a smoke demon (ball of steam) on Abyss:1 on 2016-09-03 09:51:08, with 0 points after 46 turns and 0:00:41. 00:46:34 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:46:38 !lg glosham vpak urune=1 00:46:39 2. glosham the Skirmisher (L1 VpAK of Lugonu), slain by a great orb of eyes on Abyss:3 (evilmike_abyss_rune_tentacle_tunnel) on 2016-09-01 19:48:12, with 13000 points after 245 turns and 0:04:44. 00:46:46 -!- Dracunos-m has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:46:50 wonder why they didn't exit 00:46:56 !tv glosham vpak urune=1 00:46:57 2. glosham, XL1 VpAK, T:245 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 00:48:19 long queue on TVs 00:49:09 -!- Menche has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:50:15 Brannock: use a channel 00:50:28 !cmd !tv 00:50:29 Command: !tv => !lg ${*:-.} -tv 00:50:38 not sure if you can just add more args with use of !tv 00:50:52 glosham's game up 00:51:05 yeah, but the channel this is: -tv:channel=blah 00:51:12 then it starts playing in its own channel 00:51:30 also nice to do if you're playing something long, but it's fine to make a channel at any time if there's a queue 00:51:50 will show up in the termcast listing as an additional entry 00:52:05 man, he should have just departed, it's not like the extra bit of piety does him any good 00:52:23 he was trying to scum starting abyss for xp like everyone does 00:52:35 just forgot that great orb of eyes actually does damage if you are xl1 00:52:43 that really bites... 00:52:46 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 49.0/20160916101415]] 00:53:08 !lg . killer~~great_orb 00:53:09 1. Brannock the Impaler (L11 MfGl of Okawaru), blown up by a great orb of eyes on D:10 (jmf_multi_god_temple2) on 2014-05-14 18:34:19, with 7959 points after 11083 turns and 0:24:47. 00:53:42 that vault has got to set the record for "most misleadingly innocuous name" 00:55:49 -!- Kalir has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:56:47 -!- Zannick has quit [Quit: /better-upgrade] 00:57:06 -!- espais has left ##crawl-dev 00:57:14 -!- Zannick has joined ##crawl-dev 00:57:48 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 00:58:16 -!- kdrnic__ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:58:36 C++ question. How is A && B || C evaluated? 00:58:50 A-and-B or C, or A and B-or-C? 01:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:00:50 && binds tighter than ||, so it's equivalent to (A && B) || C 01:00:57 Thank you 01:01:00 handy table: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operators_in_C_and_C%2B%2B#Operator_precedence 01:02:41 -!- koolguydude has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:08:12 -!- User1 is now known as Nagaseeker 01:08:21 !vault jmf_multi_god_temple2 01:08:22 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/altar/altar.des#L68 01:10:01 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-1788-g8eae0f7 (34) 01:11:54 -!- Nagaseeker has quit [Client Quit] 01:12:04 -!- sooheon_ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:14:21 -!- sooheon has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:15:46 -!- Menche has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 01:16:53 -!- sooheon has joined ##crawl-dev 01:17:54 -!- sooheon_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:20:22 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-1788-g8eae0f7 (34) 01:21:42 -!- Menche has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:22:00 -!- Taraiph has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:25:48 !tell PleasingFungs &H doesn't clear Slow status, should it? 01:25:49 Sorry Brannock, I don't know who pleasingfungs is. 01:25:52 !tell PleasingFungus &H doesn't clear Slow status, should it? 01:25:53 Brannock: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 01:26:24 03Brannock02 07* 0.19-a0-1789-ga32af4e: Further simplify AF_PARALYSE (MarvinPA) 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 11-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a32af4e0075b 01:33:16 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:37:14 -!- nikheizen has quit [Quit: leaving] 01:42:18 weird bug, ?/M tells you that you can hit space to see non-exact matches, but space does nothing 01:43:05 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Quit: I like to rock] 01:45:47 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest31464 01:46:48 is that fixable? 01:48:24 !rng yes no xom 01:48:24 The RNG chooses: xom. 01:49:43 who is this pleasingfungs guy? 01:50:00 sounds sketchy 01:50:02 -!- Guest31464 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:54:02 -!- Bammboo has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:56:02 -!- Laraso has quit [Quit: Laraso falls through a shaft! The shaft crumbles and collapses.] 01:57:11 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-1789-ga32af4e 01:58:43 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:59:13 -!- sooheon has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 02:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:00:49 ??stealth words 02:00:49 stealth[3/7]: @ values are: extremely un 0, very un < 50, un < 100, fairly < 150, (no modifier) stealthy < 200, quite < 250, very < 300, extremely < 350, extraordinarily < 400, incredibly < 500, uncannily otherwise. (Pre-0.15 was more irregular.) 02:02:44 !learn edit stealth_words s/(Pre-0.15 was more irregular.)/(Words removed in 0.19.) 02:02:44 No change: regex `(Pre-0.15 was more irregular.)` does not match `see {stealth[3]}` 02:02:57 !learn edit stealth[3] s/(Pre-0.15 was more irregular.)/(Words removed in 0.19.) 02:02:58 stealth[3/7]: @ values are: extremely un 0, very un < 50, un < 100, fairly < 150, (no modifier) stealthy < 200, quite < 250, very < 300, extremely < 350, extraordinarily < 400, incredibly < 500, uncannily otherwise. ((Words removed in 0.19.)) 02:03:12 weird, why'd it add parentheses? 02:03:19 I guess I didn't escape it correctly? 02:04:30 -!- Reverie has joined ##crawl-dev 02:04:31 Brannock: yes, you captured inside of the parens instead of matching the parens 02:05:26 -!- Grivan has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:05:43 !learn edit stealth[3] s/$\(/(/ 02:05:44 stealth[3/7]: @ values are: extremely un 0, very un < 50, un < 100, fairly < 150, (no modifier) stealthy < 200, quite < 250, very < 300, extremely < 350, extraordinarily < 400, incredibly < 500, uncannily otherwise. (Words removed in 0.19.)) 02:05:51 !learn edit stealth[3] s/$\)/)/ 02:05:52 stealth[3/7]: @ values are: extremely un 0, very un < 50, un < 100, fairly < 150, (no modifier) stealthy < 200, quite < 250, very < 300, extremely < 350, extraordinarily < 400, incredibly < 500, uncannily otherwise. (Words removed in 0.19.) 02:05:55 Thank you :) 02:07:58 you didn't escape the parens in the search string, so they were taken as grouping and matched what was inside the original parens. then the replace string added a second set of parens 02:08:17 oh. and now I see johnny0 got there first, whoops 02:08:44 (regex sucks but everyone wants to use regex...) 02:08:58 What would you use instead of regex? 02:09:25 either icon's matching language or perl 6's 02:09:43 (granted perl 6 still calls its "regex" but it's a very different kind of regex) 02:09:51 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-1789-ga32af4e (34) 02:12:36 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:12:37 to be clear I'm understanding this correctly, I should have instead typed: s/$\Pre-0.15 was more irregular.$\/(Words removed in 0.19.) 02:13:14 no slash before P 02:13:27 ideally: s/$Pre-0\.15 was more irregular\.$\/(Words removed in 0.19.)/ 02:13:36 and use s||| 02:13:42 so you don't have to escape / 02:13:51 you can use different regexp delimiters 02:13:55 oh wait don't want to escape that actually 02:13:57 Ah, I didn't know that 02:14:03 s/$Pre-0\.15 was more irregular\.$/(Words removed in 0.19.)/ 02:14:14 because it's actually supposed to be the delimiter 02:14:21 oh yeah, and if you don't want that escaped, then / is fine 02:14:24 escaping it makes it a literal slash to be matched... 02:14:42 anyway this is a perfect example of why regex is ... 02:15:40 we'll be recieving a patch to convert learnDB to perl 6 regexes soon, I'm sure 02:16:37 as if. currently no way to separate them from the language and a pcre variant would be rather "fun". since it's not actually regex, it actual code. 02:16:43 *it's 02:20:13 just use \Q and \E if you want to escape all metacharacters and do a literal replace instead 02:21:02 s/\Q(Pre-0.15 was more irregular.)\E/(Words removed in 0.19.)/ 02:21:12 (someone is actually working on extracting the nqp implementation into a standalone p6re. scary) 02:22:30 mm, just tried to formulate that in icon. it's not hard, just more verbose and annoying, even if it is easier to comprehend. which is why regex is still with us... 02:23:24 yeah I should use that \Q\E trick more 02:23:43 mmm. stealth[3] ?= tab(upto('(')) & move(bal('(', ')') & "(Words removed in 0.19.)" & tab(0) 02:23:45 iirc 02:24:02 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 02:24:51 ??gammafunk[2] 02:24:52 gammafunk[2/5]: TODO (for real): depths encompass map, some other thing I forgot, let &E work with autotravel/explore 02:25:19 tab moves and produces the matched string, move just moves (dropping the string), bal() matches balanced delimiters, then the replacement string, then tab(0) copies anything left 02:25:38 !learn edit gammafunk[2] s/\Qautotravel/\E/fun/ 02:25:38 Syntax is: !learn edit TERM[NUM] s/REGEX/REPLACE/opts 02:25:47 so it doesn't help with the /, ok 02:25:52 although bal is not smart and doesn't handle nesting --- not that it matters here 02:25:57 !learn edit gammafunk[2] s/\Qautotravel\/\E/fun/ 02:25:57 No change: regex `\Qautotravel\/\E` does not match `TODO (for real): depths encompass map, some other thing I forgot, let &E work with autotravel/explore` 02:26:07 right, / is syntax not pattern 02:26:13 !learn edit gammafunk[2] s|\Qautotravel/\E|fun| 02:26:14 gammafunk[2/5]: TODO (for real): depths encompass map, some other thing I forgot, let &E work with funexplore 02:26:40 funexplore is a good feature I'll be implementing soon 02:27:07 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest78910 02:27:17 and yes, you hit an annoying corner case of \Q/\E, you can['t match the delimiter because the \ is literal instead of escaping it 02:27:44 -!- DDFi has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:33:28 -!- aditya has joined ##crawl-dev 02:36:31 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:43:39 -!- Menche has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:45:41 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 02:50:03 -!- Morg0th has quit [Client Quit] 02:53:05 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-1789-ga32af4e 02:58:25 -!- grammu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:59:06 -!- Grammus has joined ##crawl-dev 03:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:00:31 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:09:51 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 03:11:31 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:14:08 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.19-a0-1789-ga32af4e (34) 03:15:01 -!- FiftyNine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:19:28 -!- DDFi has quit [Client Quit] 03:20:56 -!- Smashy has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 03:44:43 -!- Dunwich_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:45:59 -!- hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:59:08 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 04:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:04:49 -!- ilyak has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:07:24 -!- Roarke has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:12:22 -!- CcS has quit [Client Quit] 04:15:55 -!- filthy has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:16:46 -!- dtsund has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:20:28 -!- ololoev has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:20:49 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:38:03 -!- aditya has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 04:45:41 -!- airwolf has quit [Client Quit] 04:50:28 -!- Kenran has joined ##crawl-dev 04:52:10 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest56128 04:52:59 -!- Guest78910 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 04:56:10 -!- PElf has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Like it? Visit #hydrairc on EFNet] 05:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:05:47 -!- Bammboo has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 05:14:13 -!- hpm_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:35:01 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:40:31 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:42:26 -!- Dracunos-m has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 05:43:32 03johnny002 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/377 * 0.19-a0-1746-gc5c554d: libunix.cc: Checkwhite and unbrace. 10(77 minutes ago, 1 file, 9+ 9-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c5c554d46353 05:43:32 03johnny002 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/377 * 0.19-a0-1747-g85cf057: libunix.cc: Do not simply reverse the default pair in flip_colour(). 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 22+ 27-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/85cf057e1d23 05:43:32 03johnny002 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/377 * 0.19-a0-1748-gcdd9768: libunix.cc: Fix rendering on monochrome terminals. 10(50 minutes ago, 1 file, 22+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/cdd9768d0802 05:52:43 -!- Nerem has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 06:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:23:49 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 06:29:17 -!- sysice has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:50:59 -!- Minodos is now known as Bcadren 06:51:52 -!- MadCoyote is now known as FunkyBomb 06:58:00 -!- Guest56128 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:03:38 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 07:03:38 The build has errored. 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(master - dd5ea21 #2 : Fariz Benarto): https://travis-ci.org/fbenarto/crawl/builds/164604019 07:15:37 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 07:20:33 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest60426 07:32:53 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:40:20 -!- Guest60426 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:45:15 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 07:54:22 03johnny002 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/377 * 0.19-a0-1749-g99f4d21: libunix.cc: Update default color checks for monochrome terminals. 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 26+ 28-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/99f4d21ab60a 07:56:43 -!- arianwen has joined ##crawl-dev 08:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:08:59 -!- Patashu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:09:16 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-1790-g026f1ef (34) 08:19:13 -!- Krymise has joined ##crawl-dev 08:26:53 -!- Grivan has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:35:13 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:36:35 -!- debo has quit [Quit: orb spiders :(] 08:36:56 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 08:39:54 -!- Krymise has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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ZZZzzz…] 09:39:11 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:46:58 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 09:47:31 -!- vermi is now known as vermifax 09:50:18 -!- Reverie has joined ##crawl-dev 09:50:48 -!- Twinge- is now known as Twinge 09:51:15 -!- Reverie has quit [Client Quit] 09:59:35 -!- MaBunny has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:20:25 -!- MaBunny has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:21:25 -!- espais has joined ##crawl-dev 10:22:23 question for you guys, is there a way to pass a seed value into crawl from the command line to always get the same run? 10:24:09 check the tests 10:24:20 -seed 10:25:33 easy peasy, i like it 10:25:37 just didn't see it in the --help listing 10:27:35 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 10:29:14 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:34:16 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 10:34:28 -!- Dracunos7 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:35:33 -!- espais has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:37:39 -!- AndChat|179025 has quit [Client Quit] 10:37:56 -!- cait_m has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:39:09 -!- Patashu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:40:11 -!- fearitself has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:40:27 -!- Lasty_ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:43:06 -!- Dracunos-m has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:46:45 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Changing host] 10:47:45 -!- TuxQmoob has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:49:26 that only partially works to get the same dungeon right? you have to explore in the same order since floors are generated upon entering each floor? 10:49:27 johnstein: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 10:49:49 -!- SurpriseTRex_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:57:27 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 10:57:48 -!- sgun_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:58:40 !tell brannock yeah, &H should clear slow. probably some other stuff too that it doesn't currently; it's a very ad-hoc list 10:58:40 PleasingFungus: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 10:58:40 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let brannock know. 10:59:24 johnstein: the problem is twofold 10:59:43 (a) crawl's levels are generated as they're entered, not beforehand (wouldn't really work otherwise with the infinite levels, abyss/pan/zigs) 11:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:00:29 (b) crawl wasn't designed for consistent seed runs and the existing option is barely used, so i strongly suspect any number of things will break it 11:01:05 like, the same rng might be used for combat stuff, or ds muts, or even some UI elements... not sure, since i haven't looked into it, but that'd be my guess 11:01:05 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 11:01:28 ui elements should be fixed... but no certainty 11:01:39 (there are separate RNGs for UI elements) 11:01:41 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:01:59 yes, but i'm not convinced we use them consistently 11:03:20 exactly. although there was some work on that several versions back because it was breaking testing 11:05:24 also I think someone was trying to get crawl to generate identical games for a challenge (start players with the exact same game) and it didn't work 11:06:17 -!- abirvalg has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:06:56 geekosaur: I was bugging people in here on understanding that since I had fathomed I would attempt such a challenge too 11:06:57 I was quickly talked down 11:08:26 * geekosaur trying to recall but think it came down to not just consistent use of current RNGs but also need for several more for some edge cases 11:09:19 nice, i missed that discussion 11:09:41 that iteration of this discussion 11:09:52 clearly we need to implement a -seed option for irc so we can repeat this conversation more consistently 11:09:56 it predated you which is why I;m having trouble remembering details 11:10:19 * geekosaur has been hanging in here since ... 0.11 at least? likely earlier 11:10:43 -!- sooheon has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:11:08 not sure I can even reconstruct logs since some of them were in VMs that got corrupted :/ 11:14:33 -!- koolguydude has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:20:38 -!- Xenobreeder has joined ##crawl-dev 11:23:30 -!- Zxpr1jk has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:23:53 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:28:03 -!- arianwen has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 11:28:19 -!- Morg0th has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:31:34 it depends on your definition of "identical", though 11:32:00 just having the same maps, is easy in principle. I've done that for unnethack. 11:32:38 "in principle" 11:32:40 generate and save a seed for each level at the beginning from your starting seed. 11:32:43 does nethack have any levels like crawl's abyss or pan? 11:32:46 or ziggurats? 11:32:50 the difference between theory and practice... 11:32:58 well, random levels are random :) 11:33:09 i'm rollin my eyes @ u 11:33:31 but I don't know how abyss or pan is generated 11:34:56 -!- cait_m has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:35:01 ziggurats, aren't they generated when you enter the level? with the same seed that should generate the same ziggurats unless their creation depends on other stats as well 11:35:33 the created monsters would be different as those are also dependant on player level. 11:35:35 everything's generated as you enter the level 11:35:41 created monsters don't depend on player level. 11:35:45 but loot can 11:36:22 that's what I get from not reading the source but relying on my experience 11:36:36 generated loot or dropped loot? 11:36:43 generated (floor) 11:36:48 interesting 11:37:04 some loot is 'acquirement' loot, which uses roughly the same logic as the scroll 11:37:13 PleasingFungus: -seed seems pretty reliable at making qw play the same game every time nowadays, there were problems in the past but I haven't noticed any recently 11:37:14 it's rare and we try to discourage it, but i suspect there's some in zigs 11:37:19 hyperbolic: ah, cool! 11:37:24 of course there could be something that qw doesn't do that breaks it 11:37:30 :) 11:37:34 but since the option is only really used by qw... 11:38:07 yeah, it does work in the tests, which is a fair point 11:38:49 -!- abirvalg has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:41:20 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 11:45:57 -!- aditya has joined ##crawl-dev 11:48:57 -!- Dracunos7 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:51:31 -!- AndChat|179025 has quit [Client Quit] 11:51:51 -!- cait_m has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:02:11 -!- fearitself has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:03:21 -!- Twinge has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:03:54 -!- cait_m has quit [Client Quit] 12:04:33 -!- AndChat|179025 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:06:14 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:08:53 -!- cait_m has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:10:06 -!- Twinge has joined ##crawl-dev 12:12:27 -!- Twinge- has joined ##crawl-dev 12:14:33 -!- Twinge has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:14:48 !source branch-data.h 12:14:49 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/branch-data.h 12:18:20 &rc acidrobin 12:18:23 http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rcfiles/crawl-0.17/AcidRobin.rc 12:19:02 &rc gammafunk 12:19:07 http://webzook.net/soup/rcfiles/trunk/gammafunk.rc 12:20:12 aw, acidrobin's rc is busted :( 12:22:14 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 12:25:01 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 12:25:05 ??branches[$ 12:25:05 branch depths[1/1]: Just press ctrl-o and read the screen. Alternatively, use ?/B if you're not in the range yet. 12:25:08 ??branches[2 12:25:08 hyperelliptic[1/1]: Lair -> D:12 -> Orc -> D:15 -> S:3 -> maybe other S:3 -> get rune -> Vaults:4 -> maybe get second rune -> Depths:5 -> get three runes -> Zot 12:25:12 ??branches[3 12:25:12 branches[3/4]: http://i.imgur.com/7yRZ8Pz.png (credit /u/SuperDuckQ) 12:25:30 !learn e branches[3 s/7yRZ8Pz/Ens4iz2 12:25:31 branches[3/4]: http://i.imgur.com/Ens4iz2.png (credit /u/SuperDuckQ) 12:29:53 -!- Bammboo has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:31:54 (Beogh) Taming Nergalle does not take her spectral orcs into allies 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10715 by papilio 12:32:18 -!- Twinge- has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:32:27 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:40:39 -!- aditya has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:45:29 -!- Bammboo00 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:51:25 -!- Kranix has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:53:08 -!- Twinge has joined ##crawl-dev 12:55:26 -!- Twinge- has joined ##crawl-dev 12:58:06 -!- Twinge has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:59:41 -!- destrovel has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:03:47 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:05:41 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.19-a0-1790-g026f1ef (34) 13:12:19 -!- Bammboo00 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:17:41 -!- smee has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:32:23 -!- RocketPapaya has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 13:32:25 -!- Homebrew has joined ##crawl-dev 13:33:17 Was hoping to setup an internal server for use over ssh or even over browser with graphical tiles. Wondered if anyone had documentation for how to do that? Or at least a "go here, amateur" guide for getting started. 13:35:09 -!- jeefus is now known as jefus 13:35:38 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/webserver/README 13:35:40 Ah, duh. 13:35:49 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 13:36:18 !readall dgl 13:36:19 https://github.com/crawl/dgamelaunch / https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:server:setting_up_dgamelaunch_and_webtiles / ansible version in development by Mattias at https://github.com/mattias/ansible_playbook_webtiles / driving to Kentucky to power cycle a router is easier than configuring the DGL 13:36:24 Homebrew: ^^ 13:37:05 the wiki link to crawl.develz is the one to start with 13:37:09 Oh, perfect. Thank you guys. 13:37:37 I'll be annoying my coworkers in no time. 13:42:12 -!- stickyfingers has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:47:36 dgl is for ssh based; a simple webtiles server is actually a lot easier 13:48:28 (a full featured one is ... not so easy. but you may not care for an internal server) 13:49:13 -!- cybersaint2k has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:49:47 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:50:14 -!- Grammus has quit [] 13:50:25 When you say 'full featured', does that include leaderboards? 13:50:33 -!- Bammboo00 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:50:41 This is just an alternative to the foosball table, with posted and permanent bragging rights. 13:50:55 yes 13:51:06 Hard way it is, then. 13:51:14 I'm not sure that's even covered; I think leaderboards are currently a separate thing 13:51:21 following the wiki should get you up and running 13:51:22 Well 13:51:28 might want to talk to chequers when they're around 13:51:33 I can imagine that I should at least be able to scrap logs and get a php page for that up 13:51:43 scrape* 13:51:45 (they're in the process of rewriting the currently rather ad hoc leaderboard setup) 13:51:49 Ah. 13:52:21 -!- Homebrew is now known as JamesKeenan 13:52:51 -!- SvenGaddegesgard has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:53:02 -!- dtsund has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:58:48 -!- Cheibrodos has joined ##crawl-dev 13:59:38 vaultedit is broken help https://dl.dropbox.com/u/15495351/vaultedit/vaultedit.htm 14:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:01:53 -!- Ragnor has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:05:36 https://tidbits.com/article/16735 14:05:51 http://tidbits.com/resources/2016-09/Dropbox-ends-hosting.png 14:05:56 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:06:24 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 14:07:37 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:09:04 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:09:33 -!- Twinge- has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:10:34 Dang. 14:11:28 yeah, it sucks 14:11:38 ??vaultedit 14:11:39 vaultedit[1/2]: Webtiles meets vault making: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/15495351/vaultedit/vaultedit.htm 14:11:41 ??vaultedit[2 14:11:41 vaultedit[2/2]: hangedman's todos: update shown features, tiles; allow putting in text and seeing the vaultedit load that vault; direct links to vault philosophy guides shown for newcomers; dragging around tiles display, expanding it; hovertooltips??; 14:11:48 hm 14:11:57 Wasn't there another tool at some point? 14:12:14 probably 14:12:16 -!- angelichorsey has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:12:22 I'm just a filthy tiles player who likes making vaults with tiles 14:12:48 not unreasonable 14:15:03 -!- Twinge has joined ##crawl-dev 14:16:54 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:19:59 <3 vim des vault syntax file 14:21:12 -!- destrovel has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:21:53 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:21:59 -!- eb has quit [] 14:23:39 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 14:27:56 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:29:06 -!- TuxQmoob has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:29:18 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:29:35 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:40:45 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 14:41:32 find someone else to host that, I guess 14:41:50 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 14:41:50 I never understood why dropbox accepted the security risk in permitting that in the first place 14:46:01 -!- Dracunos-m has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:48:17 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:51:06 -!- cait_m has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:56:26 -!- koolguydude has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:59:04 !tell amalloy you tweaked the r/dcss skin, right? the felid chaos knight pic is really badly stretched - maybe reupload it at the right aspect ratio with black bars on the sides? 14:59:05 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let amalloy know. 15:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:07:38 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:09:51 it turns out that people only pretend to care about security 15:10:14 -!- Cheibrodos has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:11:14 Vaults, vaults, vaults. 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10716 by Cheibrodos 15:14:49 -!- Twinge has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:15:47 sadly true 15:16:39 (although it's also been found that mostly the ways we present security related things to users suck, and all but guarantee the wrong response) 15:16:51 ("we" being programmers in general) 15:18:18 -!- JamesKeenan has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:19:36 -!- Twinge has joined ##crawl-dev 15:19:56 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 15:21:53 -!- Twinge- has joined ##crawl-dev 15:24:02 In my recognised items, I have unknown books on '-' (troglodyte), but still from time to time when I walk on a tile with a book, I take it up 15:24:02 -!- Twinge has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:24:34 it happened twice this game (I have 2 books on recognized), and those two are now on '+' 15:24:47 is there some condition on which to take up books anyway? 15:24:59 -!- HenryPhillips has quit [Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client ( http://www.androirc.com )] 15:25:20 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 15:25:26 sounds like a bug with the new book id code 15:25:34 i think |amethyst was talking about something like that a bit back 15:25:37 this is 0.19, right? 15:25:41 PleasingFungus: yes 15:25:46 PleasingFungus: trunk on CXC 15:25:59 also, this is tangential, but why don't you want to pick up books as a trogger? 15:26:39 PleasingFungus: I am going for a simple 3-rune-game, so I just want to burn all the books :D 15:26:54 no love for burn books conjure flame tech? 15:26:56 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:27:20 PleasingFungus: hum, I never thought about that honestly 15:27:42 not really necessary this time, but thanks for the input :) I'll think twice now before just burning everything 15:28:41 -!- ilyak has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:29:54 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:31:33 -!- packet_loss has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:31:59 PleasingFungus: that was Brannock 15:32:07 oh 15:32:07 who tweaked r/dcss layout 15:32:14 !tell amalloy nevermind, apparently 15:32:14 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let amalloy know. 15:32:22 !tell brannock you tweaked the r/dcss skin, right? the felid chaos knight pic is really badly stretched - maybe reupload it at the right aspect ratio with black bars on the sides? 15:32:23 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let brannock know. 15:33:57 -!- packet_loss has joined ##crawl-dev 15:40:03 oh, dammit, chei opened a new bug report 15:40:30 -!- Kalir has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:41:13 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 15:41:37 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 15:46:12 -!- aditya has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:47:13 hey, bears in lair is my vault theme! 15:47:25 !lg * lair kmap~~bear s=kmap% 15:47:25 60 games for * (lair kmap~~bear): 29x gammafunk_lair_bear_cave (48.33%), 19x bearwithus (31.67%), 12x roderic_lost_polar_bear (20.00%) 15:47:46 oh right 15:48:07 !vault roderic_lost_polar_bear 15:48:08 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/lair.des#L980 15:48:08 we should add a new bear 15:48:15 we did once 15:48:21 it was removed 15:48:31 so what's the problem? you like removals, right? 15:48:32 there was an rF+ bear submitted for the forest branch 15:48:33 FR: demon rabbits. then you can have Hares in Lair 15:48:38 CanOfWorms: yes, ancient bear 15:48:43 submitted?! it was in the branch! 15:48:52 the worst bear 15:48:55 don't be ridiculous. a bear is way too big to be on a branch 15:48:55 and my lair vault was originally a forest vault placing said bear 15:49:06 hmm 15:49:13 we don't have any rabbit monsters, do we 15:49:23 gammafunk: if you approve cheibrodos_forgotten_conduit, imo fix the type in the comment 15:49:25 or tigers, I guess 15:49:39 if we did we could have a winnie the pooh themed lair vault 15:50:39 PleasingFungus: I don't think your criticism is signifigant 15:51:03 :p 15:51:11 wonder if we should find a new host for that vault thingy 15:51:17 haha, i typoed 'typo' 15:51:22 that's kind of impressive 15:51:40 yeah, and I didn't even see it 15:51:59 not sure where we would host it, really 15:52:09 could put it on cdo 15:52:21 like the fanart page 15:52:24 yeah, maybe 15:52:28 sad that it's unmaintained 15:53:12 maybe CDO would be an ok place to put it though 15:53:17 ??vaultedit 15:53:18 vaultedit[1/2]: Webtiles meets vault making: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/15495351/vaultedit/vaultedit.htm 15:53:21 ??vaultedit[2 15:53:21 vaultedit[2/2]: hangedman's todos: update shown features, tiles; allow putting in text and seeing the vaultedit load that vault; direct links to vault philosophy guides shown for newcomers; dragging around tiles display, expanding it; hovertooltips??; 15:54:06 -!- nikitamog has joined ##crawl-dev 15:54:17 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:54:39 I'm having trouble compiling from source. It tells me that sdl2.pc is missing. 15:54:54