00:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00:03 frostbite does the former already i guess 00:00:07 or make it do something wild and craaaazy 00:00:11 the only reason it isn't more exciting is because cold isn't as ubiquitous as fire 00:00:22 there's been progress on that front over the last few years 00:00:28 tbh it would still be boring if it was rf+++ 00:00:35 make it summon friendly dyaks when you're at critical hp 00:00:44 the salamander hide exists already 00:00:48 not all fixedarts need to do wacky stuff 00:00:57 at least saladmander hide has +rage 00:01:00 even though it's not really a salamander hide since only normal body types wear it 00:01:09 Brannock: I think fixedarts that do are strictly better 00:01:21 Brannock: better than a fixedart that could theoretically generate as a randart 00:01:38 STRICTLY better 00:01:47 ??four winds 00:01:47 amulet of the four winds[1/1]: clarity, rN+, MR+++ (!!!) 00:01:55 i guess robe of misfortune is funny 00:02:02 I guess 4W can't generate anymore these days 00:02:09 it can 00:02:13 I think an interesting enough set of properties can work even if it 'could' generate normally 00:02:17 well if we want to get technical can a +4 robe generate randomly 00:02:21 yeah 00:02:24 it can 00:02:25 but rc+++ on a +4 skin is not very interesting 00:02:27 4 winds is a good unrand 00:02:29 RIP cekugob 00:02:36 ??ring of the mage 00:02:36 ring of the mage[1/1]: A nice little unrandart, it gives nice wizardry, nice MR++ and +3 nice int. 00:03:07 that one is pretty boring, I remember seeing someone getting a randart ring that was strictly better than that :v 00:03:14 i had that last game. It's thematic, I guess, but not very interesting 00:03:15 STRICTLY better 00:03:22 +4 int 00:03:45 it would have to be +4 nice int 00:03:50 to be strictly better 00:04:01 is there an unrand which is Archmagi -Wiz or something? 00:04:06 i guess that's the mutation 00:04:12 ??orange crystal plate 00:04:12 orange crystal plate armour[1/2]: An unrandart +8 crystal plate armour {Archmagi, Int+3 Clar SustAb}. You may have been looking for Octopode Paladin, though. 00:04:13 OCPA kinda works like that, doesn't it? 00:04:16 With the encumbrance 00:04:17 efb 00:04:17 Brannock: o/ 00:04:26 ah yep 00:04:38 didn't it lose sustab? 00:04:53 anyway, I like the idea of a rC∞ unrand 00:04:57 there's also 00:05:00 ??hat of the high council 00:05:00 hat of the high council[1/1]: the +2 hat of the High Council {Archmagi, Wiz- Stlth-}. Think of it as a hat of wild magic - more spell power but less spell success. 00:05:10 there we go 00:05:24 the Stlth- is due to description lore isnt it 00:05:54 Centuries later, it still crackles with 00:05:55 effects from the residual hexes and magical energies it was once subjected to 00:06:40 good desc 00:07:02 maybe it should be paired with alchemist's hat 00:07:08 set a record for longest inscription 00:08:15 hm, how about this as a implementable -- change berserk to have a hunger cost when invoked, rather than at the end. This means non-player-requested berserk doesn't have a hunger cost 00:08:38 from https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?p=292002#p292025 00:08:53 for Heartnet 00:09:27 ooh ty 00:09:29 buff for zerkitis :) 00:10:11 -!- destroythecore has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:10:18 yeah 00:10:29 but also prevents the behaviour described in that thread 00:11:43 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 00:17:15 oh, if that removes the Very Hungry tech, then that's worthwhile 00:17:53 It should 00:19:44 yeah, i hadn't been thinking about it from that angle 00:19:50 good implementable, good project, i approve 00:20:07 congratulations Heartnet 00:20:16 -!- Codrus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:20:23 you got yourself a project! 00:20:31 feel free to ask questions in here 00:20:35 the codebase is intimidating at first 00:20:36 !!! ty 00:20:55 -!- Zxpr1jk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:21:16 PleasingFungus, #370 had me thinking it was something else entirely with that title 00:21:30 seems ok to merge, though? 00:21:35 -!- squidcat has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:22:02 I wonder if 'moving' is anywhere else in the code... it seems like it would have been originally declared somewhere 00:22:04 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 00:22:07 oh, i hadn't seen that 00:22:39 !source main.cc:3158 00:22:40 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/main.cc#L3158 00:22:55 it's at the start of the function 00:23:20 why'd he remove that but not the others, if it's truly dead? 00:23:50 you misunderstand 00:23:58 The function returns immediately after this assignment so moving is not read. 00:24:08 oh I missed his commit messages 00:24:10 yeah 00:24:14 yeah, easy to miss those in the ui 00:24:18 i don't like the other change, though 00:24:33 enh, no worse than status quo 00:24:44 i probably want to rewrite everything going on there, but w/e 00:24:53 that one sounds like it may cause issues further down the line if that timeline is ever futzed with 00:25:13 03aegolden02 07* 0.19-a0-1687-g5598110: Clean up dead store "moving = false" 10(5 days ago, 1 file, 0+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5598110b026e 00:25:13 03aegolden02 07* 0.19-a0-1688-gd8690b2: Clean up dead store "vector * results = &results_in" 10(5 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d8690b2ec8f6 00:25:13 03PleasingFungus02 {GitHub} 07* 0.19-a0-1735-g048f9dc: Merge pull request #370 from aegolden/DeadStoreCleanup 10(7 seconds ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/048f9dc9e2cf 00:25:50 oh 00:25:56 Brannock: there is a la experimental branch 00:26:03 or there was. maybe it got shut down 00:26:07 !lg * la 00:26:10 1213. cheatlord the Fetichist (L14 LaCK of Zin), mangled by a stone giant (kmap: grunt_bent_corner) on Depths:1 on 2016-04-28 05:18:46, with 54795 points after 25807 turns and 2:17:38. 00:26:18 ah, that's why lava orc are still around 00:26:20 lack......... 00:26:26 no, those are lo 00:26:30 la = lacertilian 00:26:33 Oh, right 00:26:35 wrt https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/200 00:26:41 i think i'm gonna close that 00:26:57 no real reason to leave it lying around 00:27:01 any last words, ontoclasm? 00:27:13 he can just open a new one whenever he works on stuff next 00:27:34 la is a better race than ba, come at me 00:27:37 lol 00:27:53 193 has been around for a while now 00:29:45 i honestly don't know why that isn't merged. afaik it's fine? 00:30:07 that one will require a manual merge because of how old it is 00:30:10 gammafunk, you around? 00:31:07 -!- espais has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:31:29 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.19-a0-1732-g0b18a7b (34) 00:32:20 Brannock: huh 00:32:23 oh, La 00:33:04 good ahead 00:33:37 i still contend that they're cool but i guess nobody agrees with me 00:33:45 rip 00:33:49 I think they're cooler on paper than they would be in practice 00:34:24 as I mentioned in that PR it seems best play would be to chase the permanent rewards then to switch to a god giving good abilities/passive benefits 00:34:57 well i mean 00:35:02 that's sort of the point, in a sense 00:35:27 wouldn't that make any given La playthrough somewhat samey? 00:35:54 is every demigod playthrough samey? and they have way more options than that 00:36:04 Good point 00:36:10 you still have to gain 160 or whatever piety 00:36:13 for each god in turn 00:36:18 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:36:35 you get faith but it's still like... a good chunk of the game with each one 00:37:14 Is there any reason for La to not pick up Trog first thing to get over the earlygame hump and get a weapon? 00:37:38 Like is there a more compelling choice at that point early on? 00:38:04 not really 00:38:16 I think the idea has something there, though 00:38:17 that's sort of true for most races, though 00:38:35 For other races they have to stay with Trog at least until they can survive his wrath 00:38:54 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:38:57 sure 00:39:30 fr nerf trog 00:40:01 i'm fine with the idea of taking an "early game god" and then dumping them, that's what the species is about 00:40:17 but i agree that "early game god" means "trog or maybe fedhas" is pretty bad 00:40:48 The other concern I had was the backtracking 00:40:58 Though I'm not sure how relevant an issue that is nowadays 00:41:01 with autoexplore and fast travel 00:41:14 ^G, I mean 00:41:24 hm 00:41:32 !lg hs la-- 00:41:33 No games for hs (la--). 00:41:36 oh 00:41:40 !lg * hs la-- 00:41:41 1213. heteroy the Farming Annihilator (L27 LaCK of Cheibriados), escaped with the Orb and 12 runes on 2015-01-18 02:41:18, with 5833203 points after 237328 turns and 1d+0:32:54. 00:41:50 !log * hs la-- 00:41:51 1213. heteroy, XL27 LaCK, T:237328: http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/heteroy/morgue-heteroy-20150118-024118.txt 00:42:26 seven switches 00:42:38 over 237k turns 00:42:52 chei, vehumet, okawaru, ashenzari (for an abyss dive, good tech), xom 00:45:08 PleasingFungus, do you like patterns? 00:45:52 ? 00:45:52 Look at the 4 remaining monster demonspawn types and the hells, then their jobs and the panlords 00:46:00 heh 00:46:06 oh 00:46:08 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 00:46:13 do you know what the classes are themed after? 00:46:16 this is weird secret lore 00:46:23 which is to say r-i lore 00:46:24 player gods 00:46:27 yes 00:46:31 okawaru, makhleb, kiku, and lugonu 00:46:39 i think it's supposed to be 2 gods each, actually 00:46:40 oh I guess blood saint is vehu? 00:46:46 chaos champion would be makhleb 00:46:48 or xom..? 00:47:16 hey Brannock, add background-size: 200% to the header logo on /r/dcss 00:47:27 what will that do? 00:47:31 i'd have to search around to find the canonical mapping 00:47:34 pixel art doesn't play nicely with magnification 00:47:36 chaos champion is nemelex/xom, I think 00:48:04 Brannock: yeah it doesn't, but it's weirdly small and I think badly scaled is the lesser of two evils 00:48:21 I really like that we have mini-panlords now though. warmonger:cerebov, bloodsaint:lom lobon, blacksun:gloorx vloq, corrupter:mnoleg. You go "one of these could be a panlord one day... if I hadn't killed them just now, that is" 00:48:53 chequers, what are you viewing it on? 00:49:00 there's a different header for mobile 00:49:12 that may be the problem 00:49:17 is that the lifecycle? demonspawn into lord of pandemonium? 00:49:24 they gotta come from somewhere, right? 00:49:37 Brannock: imo have the background behind the logo be dungeon floor tiles 00:49:43 I think the lemure (RIP) description used to mention this 00:49:48 really! 00:49:54 ontoclasm, that's a good idea 00:50:17 much better than off-black] 00:50:29 A vaguely humanoid blob of putrid white flesh. It gargles horribly as pus flows from its orifices. 00:50:31 Brannock: desktop 00:50:35 !tv . cpo 00:50:36 1606. chequers, XL8 HOAK, T:5257 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 00:50:39 PleasingFungus, I mus be thinking of the D&D version 00:50:42 generate a big empty level and screencap it i guess 00:51:03 haha 00:51:06 chequers, the size seems fine to me on 1920x1080 00:51:07 !hs purplered cpo -tv 00:51:08 491. PurpleRed, XL27 DECj, T:19065 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 00:51:22 I could scale it via nearest neighbor I guess 00:51:28 but then it'd be kind of in your face 00:51:49 will look at this tomorrow 00:51:55 Brannock: you were saying this tv doesn't work? 00:52:06 was someone else, not me 00:52:12 Blade- 00:52:32 !lg * won recent max=score -ttyrec 00:52:33 12693. PurpleRed, XL27 DECj, T:19065: Can't find ttyrec 00:52:41 !hs purplered cpo -ttyrec 00:52:42 491. PurpleRed, XL27 DECj, T:19065: Can't find ttyrec 00:52:46 !lg * won recent max=score -ttyrec 00:52:47 interesting 00:52:47 12693. PurpleRed, XL27 DECj, T:19065: Can't find ttyrec 00:52:54 oh you found it 00:53:10 !tell Blade- !hs purplered cpo -tv 00:53:11 Brannock: OK, I'll let blade- know. 00:53:26 well, -tv works but -ttyrec doesn't 00:53:28 i think i know why 00:53:55 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:54:17 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:54:22 is it an exciting reason? 00:55:22 I compress the ttyrecs with xz, which I think sequell doesn't handle 00:55:30 -!- Marvin is now known as Guest97518 00:55:38 footv needed to be patched to support xz as a potential extension path, iirc 00:56:42 amalloy, /r/dcss has fairly respectable traffic for a sub its size. I think I'm going to do more work on it over the coming weeks, that may increase community engagement and eventually new player recruitment/retention. with nearly 600 unique pageviews a day, that's a solid chunk, and easily increaseable 00:57:04 -!- chan20 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:57:17 was the last tournament in May? 00:57:28 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 00:58:29 actually, I'm not sure 00:59:05 !kw t16 00:59:06 Unknown tournament: t16 00:59:13 er 00:59:15 !tell greensnark !lg * cpo -tv works, but !lg * cpo -ttyrec doesn't. CPO uses xz, could that be related? I think this code is where things are going wrong https://github.com/crawl/sequell/blob/HEAD/src/henzell/ttyrec_search.rb 00:59:16 chequers: OK, I'll let greensnark know. 00:59:21 !kw t0.16 00:59:22 Built-in: t0.16 => start>='2015-03-13 20:00:00' time<'2015-03-29 20:00:00' ((cv=0.16|0.16-a)) explbr= 00:59:26 -!- Guest97518 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:59:27 geekosaur: ^ 00:59:28 I didn't want that one 00:59:33 !kw t0.18 00:59:33 Built-in: t0.18 => start>='2016-05-06 20:00:00' time<'2016-05-22 20:00:00' cv=0.18 explbr= 00:59:43 * geekosaur went by year, duh 00:59:55 May is when r/dcss had the highest uniques 01:00:03 two thousand more than September 01:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:00:10 anyway that's when the tournament was 01:00:18 a shame we only seem to be retaining about a fifth of these (in terms of subscribers) 01:00:28 I really want to get Crawl on Steam for 0.20, that would do wonders for the playerbase size 01:01:17 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 49.0/20160916101415]] 01:01:17 Other roguelikes on Steam have respectable amounts of success... no reason Crawl has to miss out 01:01:43 -!- Rast has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 01:01:52 +1 01:02:12 -!- Rast has joined ##crawl-dev 01:02:27 That combined with Google Drive centralization, GitHub wiki/project management, Tavern reorganization 01:02:50 I'll do my best to bring Crawl into the 2010s 01:03:22 -!- jeefus has joined ##crawl-dev 01:07:07 -!- jefus- has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:08:03 google drive centralisation? 01:08:29 there's several spreadsheets that the devteam uses (I was playing aroudn with mon-pick-data spreadsheet earlier today) and it seems simplest to handle this through a collaborator group on google drive 01:08:33 H - 11 scrolls of blinking 01:08:37 we can also move things like dev orientation there as well 01:08:38 dear crawl development team 01:08:43 instead of spreading it over several domains 01:08:48 please do not 01:09:09 do not..? 01:09:22 do not let 11 scrolls of blinking generate 01:09:24 hellmonk, use them! 01:09:28 in a 4 rune game 01:09:33 I've used like two or three 01:09:39 in the course of playing this game super badly 01:09:42 ??objstat 01:09:42 objstat[1/2]: Run with "crawl -objstat" in a build of crawl with EXTERNAL_FLAGS_L=-DDEBUG_STATISTICS in your make command (or full debug with "make debug") to generate item/monsters statistics. See crawl -help for the argument details. 01:09:45 ??objstat[2 01:09:46 objstat[2/2]: Latest spreadsheets for past releases and trunk (0.19-a0-1655-gdd95918): https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B7VXhHzhWWb7S282VWhLVWRXbG8&usp=sharing , See the README for details: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1D5mFqVi8ghz_nzvVmDUc3unx8VanVBWfgvZ8xCHaiJo/edit?usp=sharing 01:09:51 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-1735-g048f9dc (34) 01:10:22 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:10:38 hellmonk, apparently 10.34 scrolls of blinking generate in the average 3-rune game 01:10:51 that's way too many imo 01:10:57 I'm not sure I see a pressing need to reduce this though 01:11:19 the range is 2 to 22 01:12:13 you get one ?blink per branch, on average 01:12:20 more or less 01:12:24 -!- packet_loss has joined ##crawl-dev 01:12:49 0.3 to 0.5 for the shorter branches 01:12:58 so there's a lot of variance here, weighted towards the lower end 01:13:15 the 10.34 is the sum of all these 0.19 chances of finding blink 01:16:59 !lg * killer~~lernaean s=name 01:17:00 1329 games for * (killer~~lernaean): 17x qw, 10x tstbtto, 5x spriseris, 4x Yermak, 4x Wolfechu, 4x elmdor, 4x qtip, 4x PolkaDot, 4x gammafunk, 4x timbw, 4x comborobin, 4x Chiseanne, 4x moose, 4x Snack, 4x Vidiiot, 4x pigah, 4x Sharkman1231, 4x Guenter, 3x Arivia, 3x GauBot, 3x MTDW, 3x DenpaOtoko, 3x Misha, 3x hong, 3x Kramin, 3x p0werm0de, 3x keymashgrqeeg, 3x Neuromancer, 3x EriktheRed, 3x melll... 01:17:15 looks like most players get mulched once or twice, then learn their lesson 01:17:19 -!- packet_loss has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:17:24 poor qw/tstbotto 01:17:33 !lg * killer~~erica s=name 01:17:35 5170 games for * (killer~~erica): 22x qw, 17x 4thArraOfDagon, 16x xw, 16x tstbtto, 13x moose, 12x jasper, 11x Placid, 10x neil, 10x rw, 10x wafflepants, 10x Congressman, 9x Avigdore, 9x grandjackal, 9x DenpaOtoko, 8x WhiteBreeze, 8x AFjjw, 8x Harvester, 8x Chiseanne, 8x aTarkinC, 8x Fooot, 8x Lie, 8x Surr, 7x Gerad, 7x sorbius, 7x okmg321, 7x BirdoPrey, 7x VisualChap, 7x gw, 7x Iamsock, 7x GavinH,... 01:17:52 * Brannock wonders if we should buff Lernaean Hydra 01:17:53 * Sequell also wonders if we should buff Lernaean Hydra 01:17:53 i suspect a lot of players only see the lernaean hydra once or twice 01:18:00 ! 01:18:06 I detect... consensus! 01:18:16 i once tabbed tlh to death with an axe so 01:18:26 please triple its speed or something 01:18:29 !lg . killer~~lernaean 01:18:29 No games for Brannock (killer~~lernaean). 01:18:37 Huh, I could have sworn it ate me once 01:18:40 !lg . killer~~lernaean 01:18:40 No games for chequers (killer~~lernaean). 01:18:41 probably on local 01:18:43 me too 01:18:51 !lg . killer~~lernaean 01:18:52 1. pyroclasm the Earth Mage (L16 FeAr of Ru), mangled by the 27-headed Lernaean hydra (kmap: grunt_swamp_rune_castle) on Swamp:5 on 2015-05-05 20:02:59, with 118267 points after 71635 turns and 4:50:46. 01:18:57 one? 01:18:57 tragedy 01:19:01 oh 01:19:04 . not * 01:19:09 about time for bed soon I think 01:19:14 !lg Brannock killer~~hydra s=tdam 01:19:15 15 games for Brannock (killer~~hydra): 4x 0, 10, 28, 29, 15, 40, 17, 35, 11, 52, 18, 4 01:19:37 !lg * killer~~hydra tdam=0 01:19:47 oh, old game 01:19:47 3734. johnnyzero the Conjurer (L10 DERe of Okawaru), mangled by a five-headed hydra on Lair:1 on 2011-11-18 15:25:49, with 5378 points after 14184 turns and 1:05:29. 01:19:55 pre-tdam being in the logfile 01:19:59 !wtf Re 01:20:00 Reaver* 01:20:02 yeah I have like 400 games on 0.2.7 01:20:04 ??reaver 01:20:04 reaver[1/1]: Ex-background, removed in 0.8. A conjurer with a weapon but with no MP or int. Also a dev for Crawl, see {reaverb} 01:20:16 then I came back online for I think... 0.14, and began winning repeatedly 01:20:26 !seen reaverb 01:20:26 I last saw reaverb at Fri May 13 07:32:44 2016 UTC (19w 6d 21h 47m 41s ago) quitting, saying 'Client Quit'. 01:20:43 all these names... like tears in the rain... 01:20:44 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-1735-g048f9dc (34) 01:21:29 I wonder which will get comments first, removal of putrid/chaos champions, or meaner dragons in Zot 01:22:21 !seen nvjack 01:22:21 Sorry Brannock, I haven't seen nvjack. 01:24:48 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Changing host] 01:24:51 https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=21685 01:25:16 my offer of sounds made with caution to copyrights still stands 01:25:42 I will add my ironic thanks as a deaf person 01:26:00 surprised this came ahead of schedule 01:26:05 we were told to expect this in December 01:26:13 new days for crawl development... 01:26:25 havent you ever heard of time zones, its december in south korea 01:27:06 chilly! 01:27:23 I wonder which server will be the first to implement sound module 01:27:32 my money's on cjr 01:27:59 -!- THERetroGamerNY has quit [Client Quit] 01:30:04 Brannock: i guess we need closed captions for the sounds 01:30:37 !tell pleasingfungus found it https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=user:hangedman#monster_designs 01:30:38 Brannock: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 01:31:27 wow, still 16 demonspawn combinations 01:31:32 down nine! 01:31:40 too bad about chaos champions... 01:31:50 they had like three or four different abilities that were all axed for not working 01:32:07 did someone suggest for draconians having a single color-job combination, so they didn't really have "colours" and "classes" at all 01:32:08 -!- Cimanyd has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:32:16 yes, several devs have suggested that 01:32:16 I think I disliked it at the time, but now I like it for draconians and demonspawn 01:32:20 I like the combinatorics 01:32:29 I'd be against fixed combinations for demonspawn though 01:32:40 chequers, did you see what I told PF about patterns for current-Ds? 01:32:47 i just learned while reading that commit what 'gelid demonspawn' do 01:33:01 and I don't know what any of the drac classes do, except scorcher 01:33:06 drac classes are a mess 01:33:07 i don't think so 01:33:11 what did you tell him? 01:33:11 chequers, Look at the 4 remaining monster demonspawn types and the hells, then their jobs and the panlords 01:33:46 for draconian classes, I have a plan to merge callers/zealots into something 01:33:52 that should help the issue slighlty 01:34:17 that would leave the merged one, monk, shifter, annihilator, knight, scorcher 01:34:24 annihilator and scorcher still have overlap, but ehh 01:34:51 I do not like that we have a deep elven annihilator/draconian annihilator, but I'm already doing so many renames as is 01:35:04 so not something I'm likely to touch 01:35:05 the annihilators share the spell list 01:35:29 so it's a relatively rare case (in crawl) of "same monster but a different colour and more powerful now" 01:35:29 scorchers are hellfire dracos, zealot-callers would have Summon Drakes and some Qazlal stuff 01:35:41 sorry -- damnation draconians 01:35:47 you know, they could use a rename too. 01:35:51 names. Names. NAMES. 01:35:56 Draconian Damner 01:36:32 chequers, did you figure out the pattern? 01:36:38 .oO { draconian damnthings } 01:36:46 Damned Things 01:36:47 I like how red draconian : red dragon :: black draconian : blue dragon 01:36:58 -!- Zxpr1jk has quit [Client Quit] 01:37:06 Brannock: oh, the correlation? I did see you mention that before 01:37:16 * Brannock wonders how many people have read Finder 01:37:17 and something about mapping to two gods each too? 01:37:28 yeah, though that's somewhat deprecated these days 01:37:43 funny that Cerebov's picked up the reputation of being a burly melee fighter when he casts Fire Storm 01:37:45 @??cerebov 01:37:46 Cerebov (05&) | Spd: 10 | HD: 21 | HP: 558-764 | AC/EV: 30/8 | Dam: 60 | 05demonic, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, evil, see invisible | Res: 13magic(immune), 04fire+++, 05damnation, 03poison, 12drown, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 22674 | Sp: iron shot (3d36) [06!sil], fire storm (8d16 / 8d17) [06!sil], sum.greater demon [06!sil], haste [06!sil] | Sz: Giant .. 01:37:59 * geekosaur knows one book people here don't seem to have read now... 01:38:03 I guess 750 HP and 30 AC would do that 01:38:15 which book is that, geekosaur? 01:38:23 one of the removed ones .. ?? 01:38:41 the book about reinvention in software! 01:38:45 "damnthing" is from Little Fuzzy. sort of a cross between a triceratops and a rhino 01:39:10 shaved yaks. 01:39:14 et al 01:39:49 in Finder, the 'damned thing' is the psychological manifestation of what one of the main antagonists (who is a wifebeater) struggles with 01:40:35 Finder is a quite good comic in general. Wish we'd have more science fantasy like that 01:40:46 -!- Zxpr2jk has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:41:40 Brannock: yeah, if you think that banner looks better 01:41:40 gammafunk: You have 4 messages. Use !messages to read them. 01:41:57 hrm 01:42:01 what is this large grey box? 01:42:08 it is an unfinished sidebox 01:42:13 oh ok 01:42:23 I will eventually have a randomized series of images there 01:42:23 screenshots, fanart, tiles art 01:42:23 oh, cool 01:42:56 I will also shrink the whitespace between links et al, and remove the footer 01:43:02 as well as several other things on my todo 01:43:09 it's a bit spartan with just the logo, but 01:43:23 maybe you could do a subtle thing underneath the logo, not sure what 01:43:32 anyhow an improvement from the default! 01:43:43 s/underneath/behind/ 01:43:47 the default was very 1998 01:44:03 but that year was the last one before crawl jumped the shark! 01:44:05 gammafunk, ontoclasm suggested using the Dungeon floor tiles as a background instead of off-black 01:44:12 oh, yeah, could work 01:44:18 I wonder whether that'd be too noisy 01:44:19 maybe a few scattered items or something 01:44:21 will be experimenting tomorrow 01:44:59 DOMINO TILING FOR REDDIT BACKGROUND 01:45:06 use that damn code 01:45:33 domino tiling? 01:45:55 unused code you say? R E M O V E 01:46:06 unused code?! 01:46:08 where?! 01:46:16 domino tiling is cool but we need the art for it 01:46:17