00:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:02:18 -!- packet_loss has joined ##crawl-dev 00:04:12 where would I find the code that controls increasing/decreasing contam and also how that alters its status light? 00:04:56 former is either in timed_effects.cc or player-reacts.cc, i think the former 00:05:00 latter is going to be in status.cc 00:05:10 thanks 00:05:40 -!- dtsund has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:06:40 -!- packet_loss has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:06:49 !lg * recent x=avg(dur) 00:06:51 1368939 games for * (recent): avg(dur)=0:24:49 00:06:51 !lg * x=avg(dur) 00:06:57 6207394 games for *: avg(dur)=0:28:01 00:07:29 -!- Smello has quit [Quit: Bye!] 00:07:44 coding choice question: If I am calling a function from another function, should I define the second function above the first, or declare it above the first and define it afterwards 00:08:00 <|amethyst> static I'm assuming? 00:08:18 doesn't matter 00:08:26 imo 00:08:33 <|amethyst> if it's not static, you should declare it in a header and #include that 00:08:39 former is less typing 00:08:39 okay 00:08:48 wait... "checkers".... 00:08:54 something seems off. 00:09:05 i liked the old name better tbh 00:09:25 must have reconnected 00:09:26 -!- checkers is now known as chequers 00:09:33 I used to be called checkers 00:09:33 chequers: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 00:09:35 <|amethyst> infected by a north american brain parasite 00:09:37 took me a bit to notice, tbh 00:09:39 haha 00:09:50 and then I joined a forum which Chris Hecker was a member of 00:10:04 haha 00:10:08 and after the nth "oh, you're checkerS" I gave in and changed my entire life 00:10:27 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-1704-gbd66c22 (34) 00:10:29 should've made a more famous indie game, and gotten people confused about him instead 00:10:33 oh, you're checkER 00:10:40 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 00:10:52 PleasingFungus: I am in the process of that 00:11:10 cool! 00:11:19 (it's crawl) 00:11:24 haha 00:11:40 |amethyst: hm, would making f1 go directly to ?/ be a usability improvement? i'm oddly torn 00:11:51 |amethyst: for players "who stick with the game" I was going to suggest you track by duration, rather than number of games, but I can't find an easy way to count in that manner 00:11:53 it already has a dedicated button in the local tiles ui, for whatever that's worth 00:11:58 -!- jefus- is now known as jefus 00:12:33 surprisingly my first 20 games are similar average duration to my entire games history 00:13:18 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: probably not really, because people expect that to go to the main help screen if it does anything 00:13:27 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: but then you can make ? do ?/ 00:13:29 <|amethyst> :P 00:13:38 <|amethyst> / that is 00:13:54 yeah, former was my concern wrt f1 00:13:58 might be reasonable to bind that too, ofc 00:14:45 hm 00:15:31 do people still press f1 for help 00:15:46 it's still supported in some things, probably 00:15:51 i think more likely key would be escape for a menu, which has the added bonus of working in webtiles 00:16:13 menu: "save & quit" "help" 00:16:17 !tell gammafunk i'm delegating you to reply to http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/trunk-updates-25-september-2016/comment-page-1#comment-2572 ; if you don't think we need another korean guy now that kimnosuk is posting, also let me know that (but i think he could be useful maybe?) 00:16:18 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 00:16:31 <|amethyst> escape is a problem over slow connections 00:16:42 <|amethyst> slow ssh connections 00:16:55 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.19-a0-1704-gbd66c22 (34) 00:17:00 !tell gammafunk also we have his email (through comments, so it might be simpler to reply to that rather than in comments 00:17:01 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 00:17:04 Blink frogs healing from distortion is an interesting complication that works as an effective nerf for early distortion weapons – meaning that removing that is a serious buff for what is already the strongest weapon brand. That doesn’t seem too balanced. 00:17:11 <|amethyst> because then + letter is hard to distinguish from an escape sequence 00:17:11 serious buff!!~ 00:17:30 yeah that one amused me 00:17:41 |amethyst: ugh. terminal unreasons 00:18:02 or is this one a digraph unreason 00:18:08 <|amethyst> terminal 00:18:15 <|amethyst> anyway, I must be off... later 00:18:30 -!- Implojin has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:21:37 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 00:23:42 -!- miek_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:23:56 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:23:57 -!- LexAckson__ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:25:49 PleasingFungus: oh, having someone fluent in both languages could be super helpful, yeah 00:25:49 gammafunk: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 00:26:22 yeah 00:26:23 kimnosuk is also very helpful, and boy is he chock full of god ideas! 00:26:27 !!! 00:27:57 ahh, it's finally happened 00:28:00 dream sheep smashed me 00:28:24 in retrospect I should have stepped from time but I figured fireball would sink enough of them 00:28:32 good riddance! 00:28:34 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 49.0/20160916101415]] 00:29:13 wow 00:29:19 killed by your own creation, Brannock? 00:29:25 only took me a month! 00:29:29 my goodness 00:29:41 I got them on my Lair:6 near nasty stairs spawns 00:29:50 but I retreated hastily 00:30:35 I was considering switching to heavier armor earlier in that run given I'd been doing so well with Chei, but was putting it off 00:30:48 Turns out 7 AC sucks against damage boost 00:30:50 -!- miek_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:32:41 when dream sheep appear alone they are really frustrating to fight 00:32:46 when they're in a pack they're really enjoyable 00:33:31 -!- cait has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 50.0/20160920155715]] 00:34:08 what was the bug with the Tomb 3 crashes? 00:35:04 the game couldn't place the rune since every tile was a # 00:35:17 every grid square* 00:38:34 another pro korean image: http://i.imgur.com/m0XdHm7.gif 00:38:40 !tell Lasty http://i.imgur.com/m0XdHm7.gif 00:38:41 gammafunk: OK, I'll let lasty know. 00:39:55 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:40:03 !lm mooon alive death 00:40:04 1. [2016-09-27 03:50:58] mooon the Nimble (L10 FeCK of Xom) slain by a wight (a +0 battleaxe) (D:9) 00:40:07 hrm 00:42:14 the new porcupine tile is actually a hedgehog, and after discussing with roctavian, it turns out quills are very difficult to represent attractively in a low-pixel environment 00:42:41 weighing whether to rename the monster, or to just leave the amusing discrepancy 00:43:26 -!- vale_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:44:32 correcting the name sounds like tolkeinism to me 00:44:49 well, i'm convinced 00:45:05 I see a bunch of PRs have piled up while I was away... I should sort through them soon 00:47:09 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:48:06 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 00:53:16 -!- filthy has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:02:38 on Brannock's todo: reduce use of the hard consonants in monster names (kidding) 01:03:19 -!- jeefus has joined ##crawl-dev 01:03:43 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:03:53 remove vowels 01:03:59 disemvowel 01:04:27 -!- AltReality has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:04:29 dsmvwl 01:05:47 -!- Guest95320 is now known as myp 01:06:30 -!- AltReality has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:06:41 -!- jefus has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:07:31 good potential god name 01:09:01 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:11:05 naming checklist: Can you pronounce it? If yes, try again. 01:13:17 I keep spelling basajaun wrong 01:13:36 and I keep adding the ak when the branch doesn't have it. you guys keep me on my toes 01:17:47 -!- Laraso has quit [Client Quit] 01:22:22 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 01:27:12 -!- muravey has quit [Client Quit] 01:27:38 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:28:14 ??rebuild 01:28:14 rebuild[1/2]: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rebuild/ http://underhound.eu:81/rebuild/ http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/rebuild/ http://crawl.xtahua.com/rebuild/ https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/rebuild/ Bug |amethyst or Nap.Kin for CDO. Use your powers wisely. 01:37:47 -!- Insomniak has quit [Quit: I like to rock] 01:38:17 -!- Pacra_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:39:39 -!- eb has quit [] 01:42:12 -!- beogh has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:42:33 -!- DDFi has quit [Client Quit] 01:43:00 johnstein: yeah, it's a Basque word: singular is Basajaun, plural is Basajaunak 01:43:28 so it's a bit odd compared to other species that have fully english words 01:43:29 that's what I figured. I just kept spelling it wrong and had to re-edit a couple files. oops 01:43:41 well thanks very much for adding it all the same! 01:43:46 yup! 01:44:57 Experimental (basajaun) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.19-a0-1700-g86d965a 01:46:08 you know, I've always found it a little strange that we have trunk *and* experimental branches 01:46:27 ? 01:46:41 you mean the semantics? 01:46:43 shouldn't trunk be for testing out changes? 01:46:58 well, experimentals are usually more extensive changes 01:47:56 things that are more fundamental changes. more to experiment with 01:48:20 easier to nuke an experimental rather than reverting a bunch of commits 01:48:40 -!- TuxQmoob has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:48:42 -!- Rotatell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:48:53 I guess so, maybe I'm just colored by my initial exposure to trunk being "Under active development. Play at your own risk!" 01:48:55 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 01:49:31 -!- Rotatell has joined ##crawl-dev 01:49:42 -!- vale_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:49:45 there's definitely a fine line sometimes 01:50:13 It does seem like trunk has become the default playing environment for online players, compared to the latest stable release 01:50:31 Though I think there's a move away from that in the last few months? 01:50:50 I do know I'm seeing more "good" players playing 0.18 regularly instead of trunk 01:50:58 anecdotal experience, of course 01:51:07 i think people try to test things with potential save compat hairiness in branches 01:51:09 Brannock: yeah, we do try to create them sparingly 01:51:31 but yes, like chequers you really have to get save compat right and then you also have pollution in sequell if the thing gets removed 01:51:40 branches you can just break save compat if need be 01:51:50 although you do try to minimize that 01:53:19 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:54:26 -!- myp has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:57:07 !lg * ikiller~~bullfrog 01:57:08 148. BOCHU the Skirmisher (L5 HOFi), slain by a bullfrog on D:6 on 2016-09-27 05:52:21, with 168 points after 939 turns and 0:01:35. 01:57:13 !lg * ikiller~~"dream sheep" 01:57:14 21. Promi the Ducker (L10 DgWz), slain by a dream sheep on D:8 (hangedman_ranch; blue_anna_fruit_fields) on 2016-09-25 22:46:52, with 4814 points after 10705 turns and 0:47:14. 01:57:45 hangedman_ranch keeps showing up in these dream sheep kill logs 01:57:48 !lg * ikiller~~"dream sheep" -2 01:57:49 20/21. tijit the Spear-Bearer (L13 CeHu of Okawaru), mangled by a dream sheep (kmap: grunt_megastairs_3) on Lair:5 on 2016-09-24 05:58:10, with 39687 points after 23554 turns and 0:44:46. 01:57:52 !lg * ikiller~~"dream sheep" -3 01:57:53 19/21. elan the Spear-Bearer (L13 MfGl of Okawaru), slain by a dream sheep on Lair:4 (spider_nest_entry_a) on 2016-09-22 20:45:20, with 28112 points after 17906 turns and 0:31:01. 01:57:56 !lg * ikiller~~"dream sheep" -4 01:57:57 18/21. Quilel the Black Sun (L14 DEEn of Kikubaaqudgha), slain by a dream sheep on Lair:5 on 2016-09-22 13:48:19, with 46228 points after 24687 turns and 0:44:35. 01:58:06 guess I'm just noticing it more than others 01:58:27 I should fix the whole "wakes up on death" this week 01:58:31 try s=kmap or w.e 01:58:31 so I can more accurately kill dream sheep kills 01:58:34 !learn q basajaunak 01:58:34 I don't have a page labeled basajaunak in my learndb. 01:58:39 !learn q basajaun 01:58:40 basajaun[1/1]: do {.echo %git basajaun} 01:58:45 s/kill d/track 01:58:50 %git :/Basajaun 01:58:50 07gammafunk02 * 0.19-a0-1657-g522dbc7: New species: Basajaunak 10(7 days ago, 18 files, 127+ 14-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/522dbc7be4d5 01:59:04 man every time you do that git query I get a little excited thinking that the commit has been pushed 01:59:41 !learn set basajaun New giant magical oriented race being playtested (along with removal of High Elves): See https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/522dbc7be4d5 01:59:41 basajaun[1/1]: New giant magical oriented race being playtested (along with removal of High Elves): See https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/522dbc7be4d5 01:59:51 !learn add basajaunak see {basajaun} 01:59:51 basajaunak[1/1]: see {basajaun} 01:59:57 after high elf gets squashed by trees, there isn't much left in terms of poorly flavored species 02:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:00:03 should add a note that it's playable on cbro 02:00:07 !learn set basajaun New giant magical oriented race being playtested on {cbro} (along with removal of High Elves): See https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/522dbc7be4d5 02:00:08 basajaun[1/1]: New giant magical oriented race being playtested on {cbro} (along with removal of High Elves): See https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/522dbc7be4d5 02:00:31 I'm pretty happy with the species spread, really 02:00:39 Brannock: I bet vine stalkers don't taste like much, since they're just bark and cellulose 02:00:49 vine stalkers taste like seaweed 02:00:54 official proclamation 02:01:19 you're not Basil or dck 02:02:10 I guess spicerack would never add a poorly flavored species 02:02:29 what message channel should I use for lava orc heat? 02:02:49 the changing temperature messages 02:03:09 -!- packet_loss has joined ##crawl-dev 02:04:46 ok I think it's all working 02:04:47 are lava orc coming back :o 02:04:57 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:05:15 I sacrificed a character via console and webtiles, so I think the crawl gods have been pacified 02:05:56 well Lava !Orcs to be more accurate, since we already have orcs and I think HO's god option thing should stay HO 02:06:49 magma ragers, imo 02:07:31 -!- packet_loss has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:07:36 SP_MAGMAN is working title 02:07:43 compact & succinct 02:07:46 nikheizen: how are you going to solve the "tension problem" 02:07:52 not use tension 02:07:59 uskayaw style? 02:08:32 kinda? they will get most heat when they hit stuff; they will get some heat when they get hit too, but I'm not sure about that yet. 02:08:49 -!- Zxpr1jk has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:08:53 and then the fun little things like zerk and lava maxing it out 02:08:53 man, cwz also has autoreconnect 02:09:00 nikheizen: http://pre12.deviantart.net/d4ee/th/pre/i/2015/238/e/1/dnd___monster_manual___magmin_by_tomafeizogas-d979tmv.png 02:09:31 koboldina: I was actually also considering Azer, another D&D monster for the name 02:09:50 but idk if Azers are okay to use in foss stuff 02:10:36 -!- hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:11:38 does the flavor have to be heat/lava? 02:12:06 looking up azers, they sound amusingly like dwarves to me 02:12:23 "all azers are male and thus are not born" -- wouldn't this make them gender-neutral? 02:12:58 Brannock: D&D is a world where good and evil are quantifiable concepts. 02:13:09 be careful how deep you go! 02:13:17 sure, but you at least have the contrast 02:14:22 heh. Yes, Azers are basically burning dwarfs, which is why I'd only take the name, but still probably won't. 02:14:34 brannock: maybe they have vestigial dongs 02:14:52 do you have ideas for a flavour aside heat/lava? 02:14:53 vestigial would suggest they were derived/evolved from a species that had sexual reproduction 02:15:00 rather than being a production of elemental fire 02:15:13 maybe they're like 02:15:14 electricity and cold don't seem too hard to flavor to me 02:15:30 the more you hit them, the more they absorb energy, and the colder the area becomes? 02:15:33 I dunno, maybe they were a regular race that traded all their women to a fire demon to become fire elemental dudes 02:15:49 Ru appreciates this sacrifice. 02:18:06 i don't like elec, but yes cold would also work 02:19:09 Glacier Orcs 02:19:11 Brannock: korean player just said to me "i already miss gecko" 02:19:15 haha 02:19:16 i don't really see the issue with fire though 02:19:22 shock orcs 02:19:23 -!- neunon has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 02:19:33 Oh I don't mean there was an issue with fire, I just wanted to open up potential avenues 02:19:35 bolt orcs 02:19:36 shock troopers 02:19:40 bolt boiz 02:19:46 negaorcs 02:19:55 curarorcs 02:19:57 gammafunk, geckos are still in! 02:19:59 you guys are too stuck on orcs 02:20:13 neqorcec 02:20:29 nikheizen: make your patch retheme all of orc away from tolkien 02:20:37 instant merge regardless of what "lava orcs" do 02:20:41 -!- Kinbote has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:20:52 not calling them Magmorcs in the first place was a mistake 02:20:56 Brannock: another korean player consoled salmon with that fact 02:21:02 salmon being the one who said that 02:21:11 gammafunk, yes I am aware of this policy 02:21:21 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 02:23:01 -!- neunon has joined ##crawl-dev 02:26:07 "magmorcs" or bust 02:30:14 lava siren 02:30:27 fire harpy 02:31:08 H E A T W A V E H A R P Y <-- new band name 02:33:39 ヒトワブーハルピ！ 02:34:16 -!- nxtlvl has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:34:16 -!- staplegun has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:34:48 magumans 02:35:02 firemen :america: 02:37:51 q: I don't know what quaff means but it makes you drink potions 02:38:02 crawl literacy problems 02:38:11 ??basajaun 02:38:11 basajaun[1/1]: New giant magical oriented race being playtested on {cbro} (along with removal of High Elves): See https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/522dbc7be4d5 02:38:51 chequers: drink (something, especially an alcoholic drink) heartily. 02:39:12 chequers: it's like bottoms-up 02:39:30 you quaff something by turning it upside down and it all goes in your mouth 02:39:42 as opposed to sipping where it's not upside down and there's a bunch left 02:39:49 that seems like a poor thing to do with unidentified potions :v 02:40:11 increasing crawl literacy and erudition is a noble goal, imo 02:40:11 Don't bother identifying enchanted armour or weapons if you happen to find one in early games. If they are really badly cursed, just press cntrl Q and restart the game unless you have whole bunch of scrolls of remove curse. 02:40:12 -!- DDFi has quit [Client Quit] 02:40:14 %git :/High El 02:40:15 07gammafunk02 * 0.19-a0-1656-gd470d59: Remove High Elves 10(7 days ago, 29 files, 55+ 165-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d470d59c1e33 02:40:18 we could always rename it to a more resonant word: 02:40:27 you chug the potion. Chug! Chug! Chug! 02:40:28 guys, I know what quaff is, i'm quoting 02:40:40 gammafunk, Demon Spawn 02:40:52 -!- AltReality has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:40:53 sorry? 02:40:54 i think all item usage should occur from the (i)nventory though to fix this issue :) 02:41:02 Isn't it Demonspawn, not Demon Spawn? 02:41:08 oh 02:41:10 re: CanOfWorm's git link 02:41:24 @??demon spawn 02:41:24 unknown monster: "demon spawn" 02:41:25 @??demonspawn 02:41:25 demonspawn (076) | Spd: 10 | HD: 6 | HP: 27-39 | AC/EV: 3/13 | Dam: 10 | natural, 05demonic, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, evil | Res: 06magic(20), 13torm | Vul: 08holy++, 11silver | XP: 196 | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 02:41:28 yeah 02:41:37 if I merge it, I'll have to remember that 02:41:42 "if".... 02:42:01 HE removal you can count on! 02:42:06 beautiful 02:42:24 -!- nxtlvl_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:42:26 giant hairy forest beasts are more speculative 02:44:15 git link? what git link 02:45:17 oh CanOfWorms and Cheibriados have the same color in my client and I got confused 02:45:19 my apologies 02:45:23 haha 02:45:32 take it easy 02:45:37 relax... 02:47:34 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:53:56 a CanOfWorms git link comes formatted as PNG 02:54:11 the link itself is an image 02:54:15 my power transcends iirc 02:54:17 *irc 02:59:10 well, sounds were the ticked to internet superstardom 02:59:23 in 20 hours, 153 views for that video 02:59:25 now I'm rich 02:59:59 what will you do with your newfound dime 03:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:00:22 gonna use it to worship Gozag 03:00:40 see what all the fuss is about 03:00:50 -!- Zeor1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:03:15 interesting commentary from the Rimworld dev on what constitutes "legitimate" vs "illegitimate" challenges in games: https://www.reddit.com/r/RimWorld/comments/54gu1h/time_to_rebalance_backstories_and_traits/d82ahsc?context=3&st=itl4yolg&sh=b30c09f9 03:03:32 riffing on similar topics to PF's talk, especially 03:04:02 !tell pleasingfungus re: your talk, and the concept of unfair vs fair (illegitimate vs legitimate here) challenges: https://www.reddit.com/r/RimWorld/comments/54gu1h/time_to_rebalance_backstories_and_traits/d82ahsc?context=3&st=itl4yolg&sh=b30c09f9 03:04:02 chequers: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 03:09:57 -!- vale_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:10:40 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 03:16:34 -!- Netmonmatt has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 03:19:00 yeah, interesting post 03:19:12 from the perspective of games like DF and Rinmworld, though 03:19:20 extremely different from a game like DCSS 03:19:28 *Rimworld 03:19:42 -!- removeelyvilon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:21:10 -!- Brannock has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:21:43 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.19-a0-1704-gbd66c22 (34) 03:37:20 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 03:39:18 -!- nikheizen has quit [Quit: leaving] 03:42:35 -!- angelichorsey has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:48:38 -!- protopulse has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:53:07 is the aptitude / background stats tables available ingame? 03:53:17 eg, not from character select, when you're playinh 03:53:36 ?% shows aptitudes, but I can't see for backgorunds 03:56:20 aptitudes are, yeah, but status depend on base species 03:56:25 *stats 03:56:45 ah yeah, the sid for species are't shown on % either are they 03:56:54 yeah, not sure they're in the manual 03:57:21 i wanted to check if tm got mage-like or battlemage-like stats 03:57:36 there's sequell for that, of course 03:57:40 !stats mibe 03:57:48 ??jobs[2 03:57:48 but yeah not in game 03:57:48 I don't have a page labeled jobs[2] in my learndb. 03:57:53 ??backgrounds[2 03:57:53 backgrounds ~ background[2/3]: Monks also gain piety with whatever god they choose first, or immediate initial sacrifice offering with Ru. 03:57:56 man that query has been slow recently 03:57:59 ??backgrounds[3 03:57:59 backgrounds ~ background[3/3]: Backgrounds as of 0.16: AE, AK, AM, Ar, As, Be, Cj, CK, EE, En, FE, Fi, Gl, Hu, IE, Mo, Ne, Sk, Su, Tm, VM, Wn, Wr, Wz 03:58:03 yeah... that's is weird 03:58:06 ??stats[tm 03:58:06 starting_stats[3/3]: AM 3,5,4 | AK 4,4,4 | Ar 3,4,5 | As 3,3,6 | Be 9,-1,4 | CK 4,4,4 | Fi 8,0,4 | Gl 7,0,5 | Hu 4,3,5 | Mo 3,2,7 | Sk 4,4,4 | Tm 2,5,5 | Wn random | Wr 3,5,4 | Wz -1,10,3 | AE,Cj,EE,En,FE,IE,Ne,Su,VM 0,7,5 03:58:28 !cmd stats 03:58:28 Command: !stats => .echo $(if (= (lower (sub 2 $1)) wn) "Wanderer starting stats are random. Stat gain: $(getldbsid (combo_to_race $1))" $(!lm * begin char=$1 $* x=str,int,dex fmt:"Starting stats for ${char}: Str $x[0] Int $x[1] Dex $x[2]. Stat gain: $(getldbsid (combo_to_race $1))" stub:"Go start a ${1:-?} if you want me to know its starting stats.")) 03:58:29 Starting stats for MiBe: Str 21 Int 4 Dex 9. Stat gain: sd/4 03:58:29 damn, already seems reasonable 03:58:42 hm, didn't I change some job stats recently? wonder if learndb was updated 03:59:05 I'm not sure that they did, Wn maybe? 03:59:12 some species got changed (Ko and Ha) 03:59:41 recently = year 04:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:00:33 !learn edit starting_stats[3] s/Ar 3,4,5/Ar 4,3,5/ 04:00:34 starting stats[3/3]: AM 3,5,4 | AK 4,4,4 | Ar 4,3,5 | As 3,3,6 | Be 9,-1,4 | CK 4,4,4 | Fi 8,0,4 | Gl 7,0,5 | Hu 4,3,5 | Mo 3,2,7 | Sk 4,4,4 | Tm 2,5,5 | Wn random | Wr 3,5,4 | Wz -1,10,3 | AE,Cj,EE,En,FE,IE,Ne,Su,VM 0,7,5 04:04:04 -!- packet_loss has joined ##crawl-dev 04:08:46 -!- packet_loss has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:16:48 amalloy: wow, afraid to do lair:6 as a GrWn with 39/7/4 defenses 04:17:12 that char felt so weak 04:17:13 imagine how great this video would be if gammafunk was lighting up your chat 04:17:28 AC is cool but i hate not dodging stuff 04:17:29 GO DO THE VAULT!!1!11! 04:17:57 ??stoneskin 04:17:57 stoneskin[1/2]: 8+2d(power) turns of +(2 + pow/20) AC. Incompatible with Ozo's, Cigotuvi's, being undead, and all transforms except Statue Form and Blade Hands. Sorry, Crawl doesn't want you to have much AC. However, unlike Ozocubu's Armour, Stoneskin will work with heavy armour. Removed in 0.18. 04:18:08 ??stoneskin[2 04:18:08 stoneskin[2/2]: No, there is no special stoneskin/gargoyle interaction. 04:18:11 ah 04:18:29 again gammafunk would be lighting up amalloy's chat with this critical insight 04:19:01 you're still invited to guest-star sometime if you'd like 04:19:14 yeah 04:19:20 you could never match up to PF's appearance, though, so it would just be depressing 04:19:30 cwz learndb has a lot of naked ladies 04:19:32 how do you do your sessions, 30 minutes at a time, or just redo the into every 30 mins 04:19:40 chequers: it's completely unfiltered, yeah 04:19:49 i just redo the intro every 30 minutes 04:19:59 usually record like 2-6 videos in a session 04:20:03 right...I could actually do that on stream as well I suppose 04:20:08 a bit funny though 04:20:18 yeah it'd be weirder on twitch 04:20:24 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 04:20:25 mostly it's the work of splitting those videos manually 04:20:51 not long process at all, but when you have to do it 10 times for one vid it becomes long 04:20:51 i guess if you were recording twitch with the intent to also upload to youtube, it would be perfectly reasonable 04:21:03 Doing this with Og and Tr is not possible, but not fun <-- typo double not? 04:21:21 if you watch streamers who upload stuff to youtube, they stop sometimes to say like "okay time to start on section X for youtube" 04:21:30 er 04:21:33 yes, thanks 04:21:51 yeah, i have some annoying repeated stuff i ahve to do for each video too 04:22:27 most of it i can do in bulk, but i still have to set the title and publication date individually 04:22:36 "yes, thanks" was in response chequers, but yeah to what you said as well 04:22:48 i know, just carrying on 04:23:07 yeah, it's additional work setting those fields, although I'm sure it could be automated 04:23:13 maybe at some point I will do that though 04:23:57 -!- joy1999 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:24:15 oh 04:24:18 this is the LoS bug 04:24:38 yeah 04:24:59 i talk about that for like five episodes in a row 04:25:06 haha 04:25:08 because it took a while to getting around to fixing it 04:25:23 (ie, the end of the recording session) 04:25:36 and then once it *is* fixed i keep talking about it anyway 04:26:15 on twitch whe you go on in response to what somone said for a long time 04:26:26 eventually they drop hints "ok, got it" 04:26:42 ok, got it 04:26:45 and then you keep on talking about it 04:27:03 and then you call them out by name an hour later to give another example 04:27:45 it's even better on youtube 04:27:58 because i can just say whatever i want, and attribute it to you 04:28:04 you can't defend yourself 04:28:20 youtube is the space where amalloy has ultimate power 04:28:25 in more ways than one... 04:28:34 given currently employment 04:28:37 *current 04:29:02 yeah i assume part of the new hire orientation will be to give me the keys to put myself on the front page of youtube 04:29:37 might as well start working on your denials right now, since the conspircacy theories will keep flowing as word gets out 04:30:50 so, fighting orc:2 monsters, including potential stone giants with large rocks at edge of los, gargoyles, ugly things, all safer than my lair end vault, this is valuable feedback 04:31:26 oh you know what, i wasn't actually like super-afraid of the lair end vault, so much as i was just putting it off till i have flight 04:32:11 also it isn't even your vault, you narcissist 04:32:13 it's just bayou 04:32:29 just the swamp dragon one?! 04:32:40 -!- scotchmint has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:32:55 well the swamp-like one with the dragon, I should say 04:33:06 but that vault is so easy and has lots of land 04:33:13 no it's not an end vault 04:33:26 it's just a random bayou vault in addition to the end vault 04:33:52 Lair:6: evilmike_catoblepas_cave, minmay_slime_entry_oklob_open, minivault_27, st_stairs_4, serial_bayou_lake_a 04:34:22 feels like catoblepas has a weight of 100 instead of 10, but I know that's just clustering 04:36:08 hydra, you could have made me so happy, yet you failed 04:36:42 -!- removeelyvilon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:37:10 -!- koboldina has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:38:28 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 04:42:43 gammafunk did not call that vault beastmaster! 04:44:11 see? i can attribute anything to you i want 04:44:28 feel free to defend yourself in the comment section below the video. youtube thrives on controversy 04:46:42 -!- dgegrgtvg has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:48:17 the manual is never good 04:48:20 ever. 04:49:06 my hask found a manual of necromancy in lair 04:49:11 very cool for an ely worshiper 04:49:54 well, watched an entire 37 minute video of amalloy, proving I have a longer attention span than chequers, at least 04:50:53 longer attention span, greater masochistic streak, same difference (sorry amalloy ) 04:51:23 i don't need reassuring, chequers. my army of viewers will keep me company 04:52:18 :) 04:52:58 -!- Atomsk has quit [Client Quit] 04:54:09 speaking of which, go find 10 friends to sub to me so i can hit 100 04:59:49 i dont have 10 friends, you insensitive clod 05:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:00:09 !apt gr 05:00:09 Gr: Fighting: 1, Short: -1, Long: -1, Axes: -1, Maces: 0, Polearms: -1, Staves: 0, Slings: -1, Bows: 0, Xbows: 0, Throw: -1, Armour: 1, Dodge: -2, Stealth: 2, Shields: 1, UC: 0, Splcast: -1, Conj: 1, Hexes: -1, Charms: -1, Summ: -1, Nec: -2, Tloc: -1, Tmut: -2, Fire: 0, Ice: 0, Air: -2, Earth: 2, Poison: 0, Inv: 1, Evo: -1, Exp: 0, HP: -2, MP: 0 05:03:41 apparently korean players have been using their spectator control thing to do a kind of webtiles plays dcss 05:03:48 http://crawl.akrasiac.org/scoring/players/publiccontrolbot.html 05:04:46 i was just reading the translation of that 05:04:53 apparently Spider is russia? 05:05:30 Collective Intelligence is a bot? 05:05:37 good google translations as always 05:20:46 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 05:22:21 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 05:25:15 -!- Netmonmatt has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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Besides compiling the game yourself. 07:59:19 -!- zeia has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:00:48 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 08:02:18 -!- ololoev has quit [Client Quit] 08:05:48 -!- packet_loss has joined ##crawl-dev 08:06:42 -!- minqmay has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:06:56 !tell pleasingfungus apparently hep ancestor has 'about 0' hp 08:06:58