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(www.adiirc.com)] 02:44:06 -!- HolyRage has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:44:12 -!- HolyRage_ is now known as HolyRage 02:44:21 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:52:19 -!- chan20 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:52:49 spotted as the loading screen on cwz: http://webzook.net:8080/static/title_spdhatsan_assasination.png?v=76e45fafadedeb80dcafa2f9507294d1 02:53:03 looks a bit better on black background 02:54:08 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-1682-g5114f93 02:58:04 gammafunk: yes 02:59:11 I tried to peak if they have any others in that dir, but it's not browseable 02:59:17 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:59:22 they also have some very weird things going on in webtiles chat 02:59:45 what look like kind of json are comming through in the main chat window 02:59:47 something about rc, and help 02:59:56 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:00:02 not sure if they have some kind of special browser plugin people are using or what 03:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:02:01 hrm, it also seems hong may have cleaned up the ttyrec creation? 03:02:07 http://webzook.net/soup/ttyrecs/foxthekitsune/ 03:03:06 !lm . -ttyrec 03:03:08 21496. gammafunk, XL4 DESu, T:1398 (milestone): http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/ttyrec/gammafunk/2016-09-24.04:01:20.ttyrec 03:03:47 if this is the case, we may finally be able to see ttyrecs from cwz, which would be very nice given how popular that server is 03:04:14 !lm . cv=0.16 -ttyrec 03:04:15 2417. gammafunk, XL1 MiBe, T:0 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/ttyrec/gammafunk/2015-11-03.07:26:08.ttyrec.bz2 03:04:32 !lm . cjr -ttyrec 03:04:33 1120. gammafunk, XL10 KoIE, T:12305 (milestone): https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/ttyrec/gammafunk/2016-09-21.05:33:40.ttyrec.bz2 03:08:29 !serverstats recent 03:08:33 -!- Smello has quit [Quit: Bye!] 03:08:41 1356493 games for * (recent): 335758x cao [7104], 222553x cbro [4305], 310413x cwz [3467], 153350x cszo [3021], 118444x cue [2522], 135121x cxc [2030], 35136x cpo [868], 17495x cjr [669], 16100x lld [492], 12123x cdo [197] 03:09:01 !lg * cszo 03:09:03 1263784. paul the Infuser (L7 DECj of Vehumet), slain by a hill giant (a +0 giant club) on D:6 on 2016-04-11 21:46:42, with 969 points after 6892 turns and 0:17:02. 03:11:57 !lg foxkitsune 03:11:57 No games for foxkitsune. 03:12:06 !lg foxthekitsune 03:12:07 232. foxthekitsune the Firebug (L6 DEFE), slain by Grinder on D:3 on 2016-09-20 12:39:58, with 319 points after 2844 turns and 0:09:57. 03:12:10 !lm foxthekitsune 03:12:11 609. [2016-09-24 06:51:07] foxthekitsune the Severer (L18 HOFi of Makhleb) left the Vaults on turn 29245. (Vaults:1) 03:12:24 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 03:12:55 !tell greensna1k It seems that cwz finally has ttyrecs available at http://webzook.net/soup/ttyrec/ ; they seem to be always compressed when I look at the player foxthekitsune, who I saw playing today and has just saved. They play fine for me in jettyplay, but not sure if you need anything else in order to add these to sequell/FooTV 03:12:56 gammafunk: OK, I'll let greensna1k know. 03:15:09 !lg * current s=crace% 03:15:10 624341 games for * (current): 91842x Demonspawn (14.71%), 50459x Minotaur (8.08%), 40458x Octopode (6.48%), 35385x Draconian (5.67%), 34567x Deep Elf (5.54%), 33435x Gargoyle (5.36%), 27227x Hill Orc (4.36%), 27039x High Elf (4.33%), 26996x Formicid (4.32%), 24423x Vine Stalker (3.91%), 22336x Mummy (3.58%), 20024x Human (3.21%), 19787x Merfolk (3.17%), 19753x Spriggan (3.16%), 18926x Troll (3.03%... 03:15:17 gammafunk: did you mean to tell snark instead of sna1k? 03:15:22 no, since 03:15:27 okay 03:15:28 !seen greensnark 03:15:28 I last saw greensnark at Tue Sep 13 19:17:33 2016 UTC (1w 3d 11h 57m 54s ago) quitting, saying '*.net *.split'. 03:15:33 he's hiding from us! 03:15:47 but I saw through his clever ruse of replacing r with a 1 03:16:21 got to wake up *pretty* early in the morning to fool gammafunk 03:17:54 oh my god 03:18:17 the koreans are crazy 03:18:30 they added sounds to webtiles 03:18:39 oh my god 03:18:39 n1k: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 03:18:43 http://webzook.net:8080/#watch-kago 03:18:48 and in webtiles chat 03:19:01 click on the things after 사운드 03:19:03 it's insane 03:20:09 oh god 03:20:17 it's...quite something...isn't it? 03:20:37 it's 03:21:16 and he's using a qb so you get more melee sounds 03:21:38 there are so many sounds 03:21:38 wow, the sounds of torment, was that what I heard? 03:23:33 haha, the torment moaning 03:23:47 I think we know what needs to happen during your next stream 03:23:53 lol 03:23:55 I should! 03:24:00 very noisy for silence imo! 03:24:04 man, but I'd have to play tiles 03:24:15 -!- Krakhan|2 is now known as Krakhan 03:24:15 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 03:24:22 they must have some special browser plugin or something 03:24:26 these chat messages are weird 03:24:28 apparently "sound" is a loan word from english. 사운드 is just sa-oon-deu 03:25:01 amalloy: do you know what those options I'm seeing in chat mean? 03:25:15 공용채팅 : 끔 | 켬 | 1줄 || 사운드 : 켬 | 끔 | T| T2| 쿠키로드| || 전체화면 03:25:25 that's at the bottom of the tiles chat 03:25:45 and messages like 03:25:47 {"s1":"[진]","s2":"효과음 개독사운드 켜고 하면 재밌음 -brainstorm (20160805)","cmd":"system_chat"} 03:26:49 hm. the first word there is like... gong-yong-che-ting? 03:26:49 BOUMMMMG! 03:26:57 beats me what that means 03:27:38 google translate says: Public Chat: Off | On | Line 1 || Sound: On | Off | T | T2 | Cookies Road | || Full Screen 03:27:54 -!- Kenran has quit [Quit: leaving] 03:29:33 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 03:29:40 google translate is a lot better at korean than i am 03:30:55 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.19-a0-1682-g5114f93 (34) 03:32:30 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:32:37 god, that stabbing sound 03:34:12 every time he gets tormented, the sound reminds of someone groaning due to a bad joke 03:35:28 -!- tcsc has joined ##crawl-dev 03:40:07 -!- M-bbigras has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:40:49 -!- Alter-Ego is now known as AltReality 03:48:24 oh my, the sound it plays when you enter lair 03:48:50 I might do a stream of this server 03:48:52 it's pretty funny 03:51:17 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:55:29 how the magic happens: http://webzook.net:8080/static/soundpatch/match_data/en.js 03:58:35 -!- hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:02:49 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 04:03:54 looks like it has special god message support for Zin only 04:15:04 -!- packet_loss has joined ##crawl-dev 04:19:31 -!- packet_loss has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:19:39 the good news is they have distinct sounds for each gong message 04:19:39 GONNNNG! 04:19:46 including that one 04:20:42 http://webzook.net:8080/static/soundpatch/effect_data/common/gong2.ogg 04:21:25 for the curious, you can find the sound file corresponding to each message in that en.js file, then the ogg sound url is just like that one, with gong2.ogg replaced with the corresponding filename 04:23:41 http://webzook.net:8080/static/soundpatch/effect_data/common/panlord.ogg 04:25:06 mmm. cookies road 04:26:12 sound when you're tormented: http://webzook.net:8080/static/soundpatch/effect_data/common/hellcast.ogg 04:26:20 like you heard a grunt pun or something 04:26:29 yeesh 04:26:43 -!- Siegurt has joined ##crawl-dev 04:32:48 they have murray make a monkey sound when you see him, for some reason 04:35:18 my parting gift, the sound you hear when you see agnes and yuif: http://webzook.net:8080/static/soundpatch/effect_data/common/woman6.ogg http://webzook.net:8080/static/soundpatch/effect_data/common/crazy3.ogg 04:37:50 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 04:51:25 -!- Shard1697_ has joined ##crawl-dev 04:54:29 -!- fusentrap has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:57:41 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 04:58:45 -!- dtsund has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:00:18 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:02:36 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 05:06:25 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 05:09:20 -!- Finwe has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 05:11:02 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:22:09 -!- chan20 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:24:41 -!- debo_ has joined ##crawl-dev 05:29:14 -!- debo_ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 05:30:44 -!- rossi_ has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.5] 05:35:30 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:35:37 -!- vale_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:00:38 -!- jefus- has joined ##crawl-dev 06:03:05 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:04:04 -!- jeefus has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:06:02 -!- Mad_Wack has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.6.3+deb1 - http://znc.in] 06:12:36 -!- mibert has joined ##crawl-dev 06:16:14 -!- packet_loss has joined ##crawl-dev 06:17:35 -!- ilyak has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 06:20:33 -!- packet_loss has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:23:59 -!- HolyRage has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:42:04 -!- ScarCow has quit [Quit: leaving] 06:44:21 New branch created: console-polearm (0 commits) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/tree/console-polearm 06:44:42 -!- bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 06:45:37 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 06:53:02 03CanOfWorms02 {GitHub} 07[console-polearm] * 0.19-a0-1683-g942d50d: Console indicator for reaching 10(6 seconds ago, 1 file, 4+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/942d50d9dfe2 06:55:24 -!- HolyRage has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:55:29 -!- HolyRage_ is now known as HolyRage 07:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:02:44 -!- zxc_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:03:35 -!- zxc_ has joined ##crawl-dev 07:05:24 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 07:09:28 -!- fusentrap_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 07:10:17 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:27:15 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 07:27:16 The build passed. (console-polearm - 5114f93 #6778 : Nicholas Feinberg): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/162407525 07:27:16 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 07:39:57 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Client Quit] 07:42:53 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 07:43:12 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:44:30 !tell canofworms we've discussed adding functionality for console indicator for reaching, distortion, etc before, and the best thing would be if it is rcfile-configurable via regexes searching the monster description string or something like that 07:44:31 elliptic: OK, I'll let canofworms know. 07:52:31 -!- Svalin has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:58:31 -!- lynn_ is now known as lynn 07:58:38 -!- lynn has quit [Changing host] 07:58:38 -!- lynn has joined ##crawl-dev 07:58:38 -!- lynn has quit [Changing host] 07:58:38 -!- lynn has joined ##crawl-dev 08:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:07:49 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 08:07:50 The build passed. (console-polearm - 942d50d #6779 : CanOfWorms): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/162408222 08:07:50 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 08:16:51 -!- packet_loss has joined ##crawl-dev 08:21:03 -!- packet_loss has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:29:29 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:30:14 -!- mibert has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:30:20 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 08:38:34 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:44:56 q 08:45:29 (whoops) 08:48:33 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 08:57:32 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:57:58 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 09:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:05:17 -!- Bammboo00 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:05:17 -!- Bammboo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:26:03 -!- Shard1697_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:30:33 -!- ScarCow has quit [Quit: leaving] 09:33:28 -!- HolyRage has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:33:35 -!- HolyRage_ is now known as HolyRage 09:39:47 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 09:41:31 Monster stats Crawl version: 0.19-a0-1682-g5114f93 09:41:31 <|amethys1> %??-version 09:42:23 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Client Quit] 09:53:03 -!- mibert has joined ##crawl-dev 10:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:04:58 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:17:39 -!- packet_loss has joined ##crawl-dev 10:21:19 -!- HolyRage has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:21:53 -!- packet_loss has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:59:50 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 11:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:04:39 -!- Dracunos has joined ##crawl-dev 11:12:05 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 11:14:07 -!- packet_loss has joined ##crawl-dev 11:24:23 -!- Nerem has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:31:43 -!- Netmonmatt has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 11:55:13 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:56:00 -!- HolyRage has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:56:11 -!- HolyRage_ is now known as HolyRage 12:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:13:46 -!- THERetroGamerNY has quit [Quit: Be Blessed!] 12:34:17 <|amethys1> hm, joining ash just printed all my items 12:34:25 <|amethys1> including unided scrolls and potions 12:36:10 <|amethys1> Looks like god_id_item sets ISFLAG_KNOW_CURSE even for item types that don't have curses, and acts as though the item were now partially identified because it didn't have that flag before 12:36:45 -!- |amethys1 is now known as |amethyst 12:37:43 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:37:59 <|amethyst> I think the check on godpassive.cc:690 could instead be if (ided & ~old_ided & _full_ident_mask(item)) except _full_ident_mask would need to be given external linkage 12:43:11 -!- Dracunos-m has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:47:01 what do you all think of making unwielding take 5 aut like wielding/swapping, instead of 3? 12:52:31 simple_targeting is great, but I still wish LRD had the old behaviour of starting the cursor on the nearest monster, instead of the player 12:54:20 -!- Dracunos7 has quit [Quit: Bye] 12:56:07 me too, patches welcome etc 12:56:18 the targeting stuff is a scary mess 12:56:24 yeah I noticed that 12:56:55 clearly, the easiest solution is to reintroduce the ability to LRD non-brittle monsters for 2 damage 12:57:22 i think i do still prefer it to 'smart' lrd but yeah, targeting the nearest monster was definitely nicest 13:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:02:28 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 13:03:48 -!- jefus has joined ##crawl-dev 13:06:49 -!- jefus- has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:07:58 -!- Brannock has joined ##crawl-dev 13:26:53 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.19-a0-1682-g5114f93 (34) 13:32:48 trapdoor spiders were removed and yet this swamp worm vault gets to stay 13:37:44 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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Use !messages to read it. 15:50:05 -!- johnstein has joined ##crawl-dev 15:50:15 MarvinPA: did you just lose your batrobin game in snake pit 15:50:17 -!- Warrigal has joined ##crawl-dev 15:50:26 monster bats that is 15:50:33 player bats can escape just fine! 15:51:16 can bees also do it?? 15:51:37 -!- Nattefrost has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:53:22 -!- minmay has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:53:25 -!- Writ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:53:25 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:53:51 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:53:52 -!- kryft has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:53:54 -!- Pyryhyry has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:53:54 -!- tw_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:53:56 -!- Eksell has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:53:56 -!- Cenon has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:53:57 -!- shmup has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:54:03 tiny monsters can't, although normally only batty monsters would attempt to escape anyway 15:54:20 -!- us17 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:54:23 -!- chequers has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:54:25 -!- woodjrx_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:54:27 -!- rubinko_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:54:27 -!- Adeon_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:54:27 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:54:28 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:54:30 -!- Henzell has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:54:31 -!- Zet has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:54:31 -!- rax has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:54:32 -!- Sequell has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:54:32 -!- varmin has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:54:37 well, TIL 15:54:38 -!- cait_ is now known as cait 15:54:50 -!- TZer0 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:54:52 -!- parabolic has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:54:58 i guess constricting a bee then casting cause fear is a secret tech for the next 5 minutes or so 15:55:05 -!- chequers has joined ##crawl-dev 15:55:12 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:57:00 -!- Krakhan|2 is now known as Krakhan 15:57:00 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 15:58:34 -!- Adeon has joined ##crawl-dev 16:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:03:41 -!- Writ has quit [Changing host] 16:03:42 -!- Medar has joined ##crawl-dev 16:04:07 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 16:04:56 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.19-a0-1683-g2e5aaf6: Update wording for tiny weapon/armour restrictions (nikheizen) 10(82 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2e5aaf60a082 16:04:56 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.19-a0-1684-g34c2bd0: Add Lua .persist files to .gitignore 10(78 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/34c2bd04053c 16:04:56 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.19-a0-1685-g614e038: Simplify web escape chances 10(66 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/614e038de187 16:04:56 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.19-a0-1686-g35356ef: Simplify constriction escapes 10(9 minutes ago, 2 files, 8+ 11-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/35356ef2159f 16:05:31 -!- kryft has joined ##crawl-dev 16:07:14 -!- shmup has joined ##crawl-dev 16:08:08 -!- varmin has joined ##crawl-dev 16:10:15 -!- beogh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:11:13 -!- Eksell has joined ##crawl-dev 16:11:14 -!- Sequell has joined ##crawl-dev 16:19:31 -!- Cheibriados has joined ##crawl-dev 16:19:31 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: Crawl Development | Logs: http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/ | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general Crawl-related chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to a pastebin service, please. 16:19:31 -!- The topic of ##crawl is: Play Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup online now! 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Output is here http://pastebin.com/jt0ukLdn 17:44:02 you need to be in the crawl-ref/source directory 17:45:41 -!- johnstein has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:45:42 -!- Warrigal has joined ##crawl-dev 17:45:56 -!- TZer0 has joined ##crawl-dev 17:46:08 or source/util rather 17:46:09 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:46:16 -!- checkers has joined ##crawl-dev 17:46:35 -!- johnstein has joined ##crawl-dev 17:46:48 vampire mage (06V) | Spd: 10 | HD: 10 | HP: 44-65 | AC/EV: 12/10 | Dam: 15, 1505(vampiric) | 07undead, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, evil, spellcaster, see invisible, fly, unbreathing | Res: 06magic(80), 02cold, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 854 | Sp: b.draining (3d18), sum.undead, invisibility, vampiric draining (4-29) | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 17:46:48 %??vampire mage 17:46:54 is there any reason for these to still fly 17:47:04 other than the tile 17:47:42 -!- shummie has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:48:26 -!- amalloy has joined ##crawl-dev 17:50:51 -!- TZer0 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:51:53 -!- Zannick has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:52:24 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:52:36 -!- cait__ is now known as cait 17:52:38 -!- Culka has quit [*.net *.split] 17:52:39 -!- knu has quit [*.net *.split] 17:52:40 -!- MaxFrost has quit [*.net *.split] 17:52:41 -!- Krakhan has quit [*.net *.split] 17:52:41 -!- Harudoku has quit [*.net *.split] 17:52:41 -!- johnny0 has quit [*.net *.split] 17:52:42 -!- jbenedetto has quit [*.net *.split] 17:52:42 -!- Medar has quit [*.net *.split] 17:52:42 -!- tw has quit [*.net *.split] 17:52:50 -!- xyblor has quit [*.net *.split] 17:52:50 -!- chequers has quit [*.net *.split] 17:52:50 -!- whig has quit [*.net *.split] 17:52:50 -!- eady has quit [*.net *.split] 17:52:50 -!- Guest80256 has quit [*.net *.split] 17:52:50 -!- onmyo has quit [*.net *.split] 17:52:50 -!- _sk has quit [*.net *.split] 17:52:50 -!- Kalma has quit [*.net *.split] 17:52:50 -!- wales has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:52:50 -!- MaxFrosty is now known as MaxFrost 17:53:08 -!- cait has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:55:30 -!- cait_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:55:38 -!- Kenran has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:56:05 I got gen all to work but it is giving me load failed on all of the project files when after opening contrib.sln 17:56:13 -!- nikheizen has joined ##crawl-dev 17:56:36 -!- thrig has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:57:38 I could try using Cygwin if you guy could help me troubleshoot more easily 17:59:38 -!- kreedzfreak_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:59:38 -!- devesine has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:00:01 -!- HolyRage has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:03:13 -!- TZer0 has joined ##crawl-dev 18:04:33 -!- blejac991 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:04:34 <|amethyst> change to the top directory of the repository and git submodule update --init 18:04:51 -!- devesine has joined ##crawl-dev 18:04:58 <|amethyst> that checks out all the contribs 18:06:12 -!- protopulse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:08:18 -!- fusentrap has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:13:23 -!- Zannick has joined ##crawl-dev 18:13:23 -!- johnny0 has joined ##crawl-dev 18:13:23 -!- whig has joined ##crawl-dev 18:13:23 -!- Guest80256 has joined ##crawl-dev 18:14:27 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 18:14:48 -!- fusentrap_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:15:38 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.19-a0-1686-g35356ef (34) 18:17:54 -!- Medar has joined ##crawl-dev 18:23:43 -!- lynn_ is now known as lynn 18:23:57 -!- lynn has quit [Changing host] 18:23:57 -!- lynn has joined ##crawl-dev 18:23:57 -!- lynn has quit [Changing host] 18:23:57 -!- lynn has joined ##crawl-dev 18:28:12 WingedEspeon: recommend you try using msys2 to compile over MSVC 18:28:24 Cygwin should also work ok 18:28:34 -!- Eksell has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:30:40 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:34:19 -!- hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:34:40 ??hda_rc 18:34:41 hda rc ~ hdarc[1/1]: A set of options and functions. It can automatically chop up corpses, exclude uniques, and more. For questions or comments, contact HDA. . To use on CSZO or CAO: include += HilariousDeathArtist.rc then macro ===HDAtravel to the 'o' key. 18:36:59 minmay: how would the tile affect that 18:37:26 maybe the tile shows the vampire mage floating in the air and would have to be redrawn if they lost flight! 18:37:36 -!- Doesnty has joined ##crawl-dev 18:37:39 it doesn't 18:37:45 so I see 18:37:47 -!- WingedEspeon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:37:51 well even more reason to get rid of their flight then 18:38:59 New branch created: pull/369 (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/369 18:38:59 03neofelis02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/369 * 0.19-a0-1687-gf258ac5: Make silencable natural abilities display correctly in xv. 10(27 minutes ago, 1 file, 74+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f258ac543807 18:39:05 -!- neofelis has joined ##crawl-dev 18:39:52 -!- 14WAAFP1M has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:41:46 -!- fusentrap_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:45:07 -!- CaptainFruitcake has joined ##crawl-dev 18:46:01 might be thinking of jory 18:46:13 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:46:16 @??jory 18:46:16 -!- CaptainFruitcake is now known as CanOfWorms 18:46:23 Jory (04V) | Spd: 10 | HD: 18 | HP: 153-208 | AC/EV: 19/12 | Dam: 40, 1505(vampiric) | 07undead, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, evil, spellcaster, see invisible, unbreathing | Res: 06magic(160), 02cold, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 3970 | Sp: vampiric draining (4-42), crystal spear (3d37), mesmerise, blink close | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 18:46:23 %??jory 18:46:36 CanOfWorms: thanks for the armors, btw 18:46:42 no problem 18:46:44 vampire (05V) | Spd: 10 | HD: 6 | HP: 26-39 | AC/EV: 10/10 | Dam: 15, 1505(vampiric) | 07undead, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, evil, spellcaster, see invisible, unbreathing | Res: 06magic(40), 02cold, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 212 | Sp: vampiric draining (4-22), confuse, invisibility | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 18:46:44 %??vampire 18:50:11 -!- dtsund has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:50:42 -!- shnurlf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:52:07 hmm 18:52:24 how do I actually do the regex check in the monster description 18:53:22 I don't get what that branch is going to do 18:53:48 put colourful indicators under monsters 18:53:54 how is it going to actually indicate that, though? 18:54:10 also the commit seemed confused about "monsters with hellfire being visible in the map" 18:54:13 the way allies are displayed 18:54:14 since those already are 18:54:25 -!- Eksell has joined ##crawl-dev 18:54:28 it's highlighting them 18:54:31 well, allies do that by setting a bg color 18:54:37 the same color for all allies 18:54:46 yet you can only set one bg color at a time 18:55:34 well, there's not a lot of colours being used right now? 18:55:38 it works since allies don't have other status things like "peaceful, sleeping, distracted" 18:55:47 looks like ally/neutral/stabbable 18:55:59 corona too? 18:56:08 and likewise peaceful, sleeping are mutually exclusive 18:56:11 but having a ranged attack isn't 18:56:23 er a reaching attack 18:57:19 does the player care if the monster has a reaching attack while it's sleeping? 18:57:28 yes 18:57:43 hmm 18:58:30 I'm not sure of all the possibilities wrt what would be reasonable to display, but I'm not sure bg color will quite work; there's another attendant issue 18:58:45 which is not all bg colors look very readable with arbitrary foreground colors 18:58:53 we use a very limited set right now 18:59:20 -!- Ququman has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:59:45 -!- CaptainFruitcake has joined ##crawl-dev 18:59:59 white works fine, green is already kind of iffy, improvable if you tweak your green color, but for instance light blue allies tend to be hard to make out with a green bg; not sure how much worse this will be with use of other colors, the monster state issue aside 19:00:00 looks like my internet connection is having... issues today 19:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:00:22 freenode is having a DoS 19:00:36 no, this one is on my end 19:00:37 seems to be a bit better now, but may be related to any connectivity issues 19:00:42 anyway 19:00:48 gretell is still mia 19:00:52 although... 19:01:19 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 19:01:24 -!- duralumin has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:02:16 it is useful to know which monsters you need to pay attention to on screen (or at least where to pay attention to) when there are a lot of them 19:02:28 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:02:32 -!- CaptainFruitcake is now known as CanOfWorms 19:02:38 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 19:03:23 this issues I'm raising aren't related to whether you need to pay attention to monsters onscreen 19:03:29 I think that's pretty much a given 19:03:57 But for "indicating that monsters have hellfire", my point was that this is already indicated 19:04:05 my understanding is there are two issues 19:04:17 For some things, like reach and monsters with certain brands, this is not indicated 19:05:07 the first one is that there is a limit to how much information you can communicate to the player for a given monster, just from the display 19:05:20 and the second one is the cosmetic issue of how it looks 19:06:07 Well I don't think there's really any overreaching debate about that first point, regardless of any change 19:06:29 Other than to point out that some things are sufficiently indicated (hellfire) and other things are not (reach) 19:06:59 there have been other proposals for the issue of how it should look in console, but there are obviously technical issues given the limitation of console 19:07:44 what do you mean by hellfire/damnation being indicated for hellions 19:07:47 do you mean like x-v? 19:08:14 yeah I mean they are displayed as hellions (red 2) 19:08:44 ??glyph 19:08:44 glyph ~ glyphs[1/3]: http://s-z.org/neil/tmp/crawl-glyphs-narrow.html — Generated with the script http://s-z.org/neil/tmp/crawl-glyphs 19:08:53 there are no red 2 that don't have damnation 19:09:11 did balrugs get moved? 19:09:15 balrug (052) | Spd: 12 | HD: 14 | HP: 62-91 | AC/EV: 5/12 | Dam: 2504(fire:14-27) | 05demonic, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, evil, see invisible, fly | Res: 06magic(160), 04fire+++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 12cold, 12drown, 08holy++ | XP: 1653 | Sp: sticky flame range (3d6) [06!sil], b.fire (3d23) [06!sil], fireball (3d23) [06!sil], smiting (7-17) [06!sil] | Sz: Large | Int: human. 19:09:15 %??balrug 19:09:55 any more than we don't need a special indicator for e.g. all y 19:09:57 to say they are fast 19:10:22 -!- fusentrap_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:10:53 CanOfWorms: i think gammafunk is saying that it's potentially useful to tell players about something taht is special about a particular monster (this one happens to have a reaching weapon), but not something that is special about a monster *type* 19:10:59 well the end goal is to make it a player customizable option 19:11:27 because we already indicate what monster types are by glyph and by the monster list 19:13:15 speaking only for myself here, i have enough trouble seeing what glyphs are being displayed under the existing "backgrounds" like orange and green. it would be useful to know which gnolls have a polearm, but i'm not sure i could survive a new background colour, and i certainly wouldn't want extra colours reminding me that 1s have torment 19:14:39 yeah, I'd be in that camp as well. It might be interesting to see a mockup of how bg colors could work, but any bg color you use for something very common has to work well with a large variety of monster colors 19:14:48 *bg colors for reach 19:15:28 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:15:35 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 19:15:41 and even if it does work reasonably well, I think for anything that would approach going in the default rc, it would be restricted to things that are distinct per-monster rather than things that are common to monster types 19:16:47 people have talked about trying to use special glyphs to indicate reach, but obviously that can't be extended "arbitrarily" to things like weapon egos 19:17:19 moving all reach monsters around so that any monster with a given glyph will always have reach or not reach has also been proposed 19:17:24 but doesn't help with other things 19:17:53 even in tiles you have this issue of "oops, I didn't pay attention to the eetsy bitsy weapon tile that one orc has" 19:18:57 hey, did we decide what to do about the spell haste while i was away? 19:19:22 -!- Netmonmatt has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:19:29 -!- Yen is now known as Netmonmatt 19:19:29 lasty god his branch with the *artful* name in the process of getting an expirmental on cbro 19:19:33 might happen this weekend 19:19:41 s/god/got/ 19:20:34 i think there was pretty wide support for removing it independently from the weird branch stuff? 19:21:11 oh, I know PF and elliptic had voiced some support for haste the spell, but maybe I'm misremembering the strength of that support 19:21:50 I do wonder what we're going to do with Charms as we keep removing all the impactful spells! 19:21:56 i had thought PF was just talking about rare strong spells as a general thing but not necessarily haste specifically as a good example of that, may be wrong there though 19:22:28 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Client Quit] 19:22:42 To be honest, all our thoughts of haste were thrown aside by the great Ogre HP display debates... 19:22:48 much more important, yes 19:24:02 Freenode may be preventing elliptic and PleasingFungus from joining irc, amalloy, this may be your only chance to remove the haste spell! 19:24:17 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 19:24:20 gammafunk: what's wrong with the branch name? 19:25:04 Lasty: Nothing! It feeds right into my Lasty dunk routine I like to do for more twitch views! 19:27:31 yeah now that I think about it the player can already just change the glyphs to get the same effect for things that are common across a particular glyph 19:28:26 CanOfWorms: things that are deffo a bit of a thing for console users wrt monster "status": reach, weapon egos, is a summon, is mighted, is convoking 19:28:36 the last three are all things that have indicators in tiles 19:29:02 first two are even currently a pain for tiles players, especially the second one! 19:29:15 yes, the idea is to use the code for tiles afterwards 19:29:25 reach is my biggest pet peeve as a console player 19:30:01 other weird things: confused allies. The fun when your zerked iron troll gets confused and you don't realize it when standing next to it! 19:30:35 since it's an ally, it has a green bg, so the usual bg change for confused monsters won't help 19:30:54 yeah, it would be better to override it with a "confused" colour specific for allies, anyway 19:31:11 I don't think you'd actually want to be specific 19:31:21 but yeah, perhaps an override is better in that case 19:31:46 I forget if you can even swap with a confused ally, for instance 19:32:00 perhaps you get a prompt 19:32:23 gammafunk: you are misremembering, I am totally on board with removing haste spell (though I sort of think removing haste spell and haste wand should happen at the same time, and something should be done to make potion of haste a bit more common) 19:32:30 -!- parabolic is now known as elliptic 19:32:41 gotcha, yeah I just seemed you to voice some conditional support for it, I guess 19:33:00 *seemed to remember you voicing 19:33:12 gammafunk: are we talking about the same branch, because iirc it's a really normal branch name 19:33:21 if we just used the can_be_stabbed colour for allies, that might cause the same kind of confusion as not having an ally indicator 19:33:23 %git adrenaline_rush 19:33:23 07Lasty02 * 0.19-a0-1634-g2447231: Set Desperate Haste to 'D' as default letter. 10(6 days ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/24472319ae24 19:33:38 so it would be better to have a colour specifically mark that "this is your ally, but there's something strange about them" 19:34:05 Lasty: that one? I was just joking along the lines how we were earlier about this and "mulch_ado_about_nothing", funny branch names really are no actual problem (to me) 19:34:44 I think I'm just confused. The other one is overwrought, but this one seems very literal. Maybe I just don't get it. 19:35:09 oh, is the ability called adrenaline rush? 19:35:14 maybe I'm confused 19:35:28 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:35:39 the only problem is when I don't spell the name of the branch correctly 19:35:42 anyhow, I have no problem with the branch name, regardless of how whimsical it is or isn't! 19:35:49 gammafunk: yeah, it was 19:35:51 at first 19:35:54 ah, that's why 19:35:59 and deciding what 'short name' to use 19:36:02 gammafunk: but now everything makes sense 19:36:13 gammafunk: I wasn't worried you were offended, I was just really confused :) 19:36:27 gussing this one would just be called 'adrenaline rush' in the lobby. but what should I put in the (description) ? 19:36:31 Lasty: but give me a break, clearly you were trying to coin the title of the next Jackie Chan movie! 19:36:39 -!- Netmonmatt has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 19:36:45 (I usually try to give some context) 19:36:51 fair 19:38:17 hrm, gretell still can't connect to freenode from cdo 19:38:23 guess there are still issues 19:39:25 johnstein: maybe the first commit in the branch will have a nice synopsis, unless Lasty wants to give you one now 19:39:33 sometimes the branch changes a bunch from the first commit 19:40:15 gammafunk, yea that's usually what I do. scan the commits. but I haven't actually looked yet 19:40:50 "Players start with this ability, but once it's been used it becomes 19:40:50 unavailable until the player collects a rune. This is an attempt at Haste 19:40:51 reform, and will come with removal of the Haste wand and spell for players." 19:40:58 full message of the first commit 19:41:07 the first commit does have a synopsis 19:41:46 oh, but 19:42:00 %git 0c75abd52 19:42:00 07Lasty02 * 0.19-a0-1633-g0c75abd: Switch desperate haste from rune timer to XP timer 10(6 days ago, 3 files, 28+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0c75abd52eb5 19:42:05 johnstein: that change is very relevant 19:42:21 I'll just say "Haste Reform" 19:42:38 yeah, good thinking :) 19:42:46 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:42:55 dungeon shuffle 19:43:21 The Double-Reverse Anti-Chei Two-Step 19:43:26 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 19:43:27 definitely glad to see Haste Reform, rather than outright Haste wand/spell removal 19:43:55 but I'm a dirty BadPlayer who isn't good enough to win without Haste for my hybrids :P 19:43:55 finally the chei nerf we always needed 19:43:59 well, haste ability might just get simplified to "give some more haste pots", johnstein 19:44:06 but yeah, playtesting 19:44:51 or simplified to just "outright wand/spell removal" imo! 19:45:34 yea. I've been loosely following the CRD. this is squarely in the "I'm not really good enough to appreciate why things need to change, but I've been around you devs long enough to trust that there's obviously something that needs changed, but I'm not good enough to know how I will survive without the drugs I'm used to having available, but I realize that's a personal problem and not something I've done enough research to offer any constructive 19:45:34 opinion" thing 19:45:44 eschew verbosity! 19:45:49 don't call me gladys 19:46:31 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 19:46:46 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 19:46:53 I like "the drugs I'm used to having" as a way to describe charms/consumables 19:47:00 Lasty, should I name it "Adrenaline Rush (Haste Reform)" in the lobby? or do you have another suggestion 19:47:24 I had a similar reaction (though less intense) with the rPois change. in the end it made me a better player 19:50:19 johnstein: I'd prefer Desperate Haste (haste reform) 19:50:28 ok 19:50:54 I'll try to get to it tonight or tomorrow night. 19:54:14 meanwhile I'll keep shaking my fist at Brannock for making me edit all these RandomTiles entries 19:54:19 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 19:54:25 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 19:59:24 -!- n1 has joined ##crawl-dev 20:00:00 sisyphus's bikeshed 20:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:01:16 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 20:01:55 -!- hellmonk has joined ##crawl-dev 20:06:16 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:13:45 -!- neofelis has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:14:33 what did I do to the randomtiles entries, gammafunk? 20:17:19 -!- ilyak has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:18:18 Brannock: you made me have to go add 0.19 entries for things like "leopard geckos" and 0.18 version conditions on things like "giant geckos"! 20:18:31 haha 20:18:33 more coming... 20:19:26 -!- nikheizen has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:19:51 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:27:58 -!- GauHelldragon2 is now known as GauHelldragon 20:30:29 -!- nikheizen has joined ##crawl-dev 20:31:01 -!- JJ_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:34:17 -!- nikheizen has quit [Client Quit] 20:34:39 -!- illusion-znc has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:34:53 -!- nikheizen has joined ##crawl-dev 20:40:06 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 20:43:04 -!- CaptainFruitcake has joined ##crawl-dev 20:44:52 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:44:58 -!- CaptainFruitcake is now known as CanOfWorms 20:48:55 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:54:11 -!- sgun_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:55:01 -!- vible has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:55:15 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 20:55:31 -!- Kramell has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:02:24 -!- vible has joined ##crawl-dev 21:02:30 hrmm 21:02:40 New branch created: pull/370 (2 commits) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/370 21:02:40 03aegolden02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/370 * 0.19-a0-1687-g5598110: Clean up dead store "moving = false" 10(22 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5598110b026e 21:02:40 03aegolden02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/370 * 0.19-a0-1688-gd8690b2: Clean up dead store "vector * results = &results_in" 10(21 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d8690b2ec8f6 21:02:42 I have the game searching for regexes properly 21:02:54 now I just need to figure out where the game generates the x-v description 21:10:18 -!- Guest89784 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:11:15 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:13:08 -!- fusentrap has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 21:18:40 alright, found that 21:26:02 http://puu.sh/rmMXp/bd12aa77db.png 21:26:04 :toot: 21:28:05 well you should use a color that's actually going to work in practice 21:28:33 yeah 21:28:40 probably! 21:29:00 i use magenta for my may stab brand myself (since brown walls are so common, making brown wandering enemies invisible) 21:30:00 might be a bit too obnoxious for enemies with spears though 21:30:18 yeah, I've never found the defaults for that to be a problem 21:30:45 let's see 21:30:52 might have to do with things like font, font size, and the exact color of brown in the terminal 21:31:01 green is allies, blue is stabbable, yellow is wandering, white is neutral 21:31:02 I use block walls instead of #, so it really blends in. 21:31:21 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 21:31:24 yes, I use block walls as well, but only for stone, with each wall type using a different block 21:31:32 and rock is the default 21:31:48 !rc gammafunk 21:31:50 since stone walls are white, wouldn't have that problem 21:31:51 http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rcfiles/crawl-git/gammafunk.rc 21:31:55 if we remove allies then we can free up a color... 21:31:59 true! 21:33:52 honestly the console in that image is just really hard to use! 21:34:02 I wonder what the typical font size is of a console user 21:34:33 mostly it's just such a small size that upper/lower case is harder to make out 21:34:58 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 21:37:20 20 for me 21:37:43 yeah, I use 15, which I've learned is on the small end 21:37:53 I think |amethyst also uses a larger size 21:43:27 * geekosaur uses 13 21:44:12 make a poll; I use 12 21:44:28 I used 14 for a long time, but recently increased it when I saw I could still fit it over the webtiles window and see webtiles chat 21:44:29 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:44:58 because you just don't know when amalloy will show up in webtiles chat and start dissing you 21:45:22 nikheizen: nice thing about that size is how tiny the window is, at least! 21:45:59 I guess you can use that small of a font and still have a big window, and just see a megaton of out-of-los tiles 21:46:21 s/tiles/locations/, since tiles don't exist 21:46:22 i use an 80x24 window, I just have a really bad monitor resolution 21:47:00 oh, right, resolution would affect the actual size 21:47:05 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 21:53:21 http://puu.sh/rmOjb/4f063d8657.png 21:53:23 powerful red 21:54:45 isn't red used while targetting or something 21:55:11 My first instinct is "they're inner-flamed!" 21:55:33 yeah red probably not a good call 21:55:55 ??glyphs 21:55:56 glyphs[1/3]: http://s-z.org/neil/tmp/crawl-glyphs-narrow.html — Generated with the script http://s-z.org/neil/tmp/crawl-glyphs 21:56:18 (l)cyan? 21:58:01 looks like red is used for center of target, and magenta is used for "in range of beam/explosion" 21:58:10 as background colors 21:58:52 <|amethyst> I do ~30px 21:58:53 I think light cyan is used for item piles 21:59:12 http://puu.sh/rmOzk/27b667115f.png 21:59:20 CanOfWorms: well the concern is colors that monsters have 21:59:24 <|amethyst> and still hugeterm 21:59:24 which monsters aren't items 21:59:24 -!- debo_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:00:25 how does the bg work for monsters of the same color, just switchings light<->not light for the glyph? 22:00:33 it makes it black 22:00:42 right 22:00:43 like that [ in the earlier image 22:02:01 I guess this is always just going to be a kind of partial fix since it won't play at all with other monster states like sleep, wandering, confused etc in that there will just be a hierarchy 22:02:18 whichever status has priority has its bg color used 22:03:17 well i mean usually it doesn't matter if paralyzed mons are confused are equipped with spears for the duration 22:04:01 -!- debo_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:04:09 that's not really what I mean, just simple things like "ally + confused" 22:04:18 even "reach + wandering" 22:04:21 those are both very relevant 22:04:26 ah right 22:04:32 -!- zkyp has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:04:41 clearly make it cycle through all the different bg colors on a timer 22:04:44 yes 22:05:08 confused allied killer klown wielding a spear 22:05:27 turn klown into a status applicable to any monster 22:05:55 well, if a monster has reach and is wandering, which one does the player want to know more 22:05:55 applied by pie throwing 22:06:07 maybe the rc can be supplied with the hierarchy if it depends on the combo 22:07:04 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 22:07:22 player wants to know both! in the case of ally+confused it's a little easier 22:07:57 if it's configurable, that might help, but have to choose what will happen by default if any of this is enabled by default 22:08:00 gammafunk: does that mean that the base type of a killer klown would just be a 'killer'? 22:08:10 PleasingFungus: would just be a human 22:08:18 with klown status 22:08:19 lame 22:08:20 obviously the player wants to know more, but given both which one is more useful to the player 22:08:24 killer (klown) 22:08:32 PleasingFungus: ok klown status, but with a pie launcher? 22:08:36 if you tell the player the gnoll has a reaching weapon, they might examine the gnoll and then also learn it's wandering 22:08:41 <|amethyst> CanOfWorms: I'd say that depends 22:08:59 <|amethyst> CanOfWorms: if I'm a stabber, or if I'm trying to avoid the fight, I might care more about wandering 22:09:02 yeah it really would depend in the case of wandering+reach 22:09:26 for ally+confuse, knowing confuse first and foremost probably? I hope! 22:09:33 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 22:09:38 then someone tells me about confused allies doing more damage to the player than confused hostiles and I give up 22:09:50 is dark green used for anything? we could use that for allies 22:10:05 dark green is just green 22:10:10 which is what we use for allies already 22:10:13 oh 22:10:15 then light green 22:10:42 <|amethyst> you can't rely on bright background colours 22:10:57 <|amethyst> in many terminals, that means "blink" 22:11:44 hah 22:11:53 do people play crawl that way? 22:11:56 er 22:12:01 we just don't use them at all, do we 22:12:10 <|amethyst> we don't 22:12:13 welp 22:12:21 <|amethyst> it's an option 22:12:23 CanOfWorms: your job just go easier (harder)! 22:12:29 *got 22:12:37 <|amethyst> see section 3-c of options_guide 22:12:48 <|amethyst> !source options_guide.txt:527 22:12:49 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/docs/options_guide.txt#L527 22:13:14 for targeting colos, magenta is used for "in range" and red is used for center of target 22:13:22 but I'm not sure those colors have to be worried about explicitely 22:13:55 since they only appear in the targeting interface, and the player knows when looking on screen whether they're targeting or not 22:14:47 gammafunk: well I'm worried about targetting being more confusing 22:14:58 not about the bgs being confusing when not targetting 22:15:04 ah, that's true actually 22:15:22 in fact that's a big problem, the magenta spear user next to your in-range monster 22:16:14 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:18:20 so cyan is then basically then only additional bg color we can use? 22:18:45 -!- Pacra_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:19:46 brown/grey/blue/green are used for other things, magenta and red are both used for targeting in a way that prevents uses for monster status 22:20:57 ideally there would also be some way to configure glyphs based on wielded weapon 22:21:00 IBM CGA has a lot to answer for (blink) 22:21:16 right, going more for glyphs would probably be the way, but... 22:21:25 so that even if you don't want a special brand for all polearm monsters you could make reaching gnolls be a different color for instance 22:21:40 oh I see what you mean 22:22:55 elliptic: I'm not sure how that would work though, if the g glyph is mostly used color-wise, you'll have conflicts? 22:23:33 gammafunk: right I mean you could let the player worry about that, the way they already do with mon_glyph 22:23:53 yeah, but then this is not something we can use by default 22:23:57 I'm just suggesting strengthening the mon_glyph option 22:24:09 sure, that would be nice even if nothing else is done 22:24:28 not terribly sure how I'd go about coloring monsters though, or if I'd even bother 22:25:06 I could see maybe putting all distortion monsters on the same glyph 22:25:22 (not suggesting this as a default, but as something I might consider if it was possible) 22:25:58 isnt some cyan for double hitting in targeting 22:27:31 oh yes it's for bizapping 22:28:12 -!- Zxpr1jk has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:39:18 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:44:20 -!- Chase is now known as Guest85200 22:44:37 -!- Guest85200 is now known as ChaseSP 22:49:58 -!- Bammboo00 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 22:51:13 -!- packet_loss has joined ##crawl-dev 22:51:13 -!- sneakyness has joined ##crawl-dev 22:51:47 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:53:12 -!- packet_l_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:53:45 -!- sneakynesss has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:53:45 -!- eb has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:00:21 -!- Bammboo00 has quit [Client Quit] 23:02:04 j 23:03:58 -!- BadBadger is now known as FunkyBomb 23:11:43 -!- halfstep has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:15:12 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 23:16:45 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 49.0/20160916101415]] 23:18:46 -!- koolguydude has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:23:35 -!- chan20 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:23:52 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 23:31:42 -!- packet_loss has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:33:31 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:48:56 -!- fusentrap_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds]