00:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:01:53 about the Ba race 00:03:39 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 00:04:13 Android - Crashes everytime at startup, before the loading screen 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10690 by ynverse 00:04:22 they don't seem that good in terms of balance; compared to Dr you're getting +1 HP and the body slot in exchange for worse EV, worse stealth, no innate resistances, no possible apt bonuses, no gloves slot or boots slot, and worse melee apts 00:04:39 -!- eb has quit [] 00:04:59 oh and I guess you get GSC/large boulders 00:05:07 and one more base INT point compared to Dr 00:05:25 dang, 0.16 crash. i don't know how much we're gonna be able to do about that one 00:06:23 not that we'd be likely to be able to do much with any android crash. did anyone other than grunt ever get it building? 00:06:58 not anyone on the devteam, to my knowledge 00:07:06 the original android dev was someone else, i think 00:07:10 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:08:57 <|amethyst> the android local tiles dev joined the devteam, then disappeared 00:09:21 <|amethyst> I don't recall anyone other than Grunt getting it to build since then? 00:09:21 yes, grunt replaced the hacked-up sdl that had stopped working with newer android with sdl2 and adjusted other stuff to match. I recall others trying to get the result to build but not succeeding 00:09:34 s/with newer/on newer/ 00:09:40 clearly the android build is cursed. everyone who gets it running - vanishes! 00:10:39 <|amethyst> any tavern admins here? 00:11:25 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:11:48 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 00:11:54 <|amethyst> there is a series of five spam messages (XYZ diploma + Chinese text) in GDD 00:12:31 -!- Suga_H has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:12:42 new direction for development? 00:14:51 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 00:18:49 -!- Rast has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:20:09 -!- Rast has joined ##crawl-dev 00:20:58 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:21:09 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:26:38 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 00:26:53 https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=21567 what causes this? 00:27:06 the code suggests all wizlabs are ORIENT=encompass 00:27:21 which should prevent extra crud from being added to the level... right? 00:27:29 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:31:43 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.19-a0-1670-gc28a5d9 (34) 00:32:17 !vault wizlab_demon 00:32:17 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/portals/wizlab.des#L1625 00:33:06 <|amethyst> hm, I'm not getting that here 00:33:58 <|amethyst> !lm aleksmastering 00:33:59 188. [2016-09-21 04:03:32] Aleksmastering the Fencer (L19 DsBe of Trog) reached level 3 of the Elven Halls on turn 39521. (Elf:3) 00:34:05 <|amethyst> !lm aleksmastering x=cv 00:34:06 188. [2016-09-21 04:03:32] [cv=0.18] Aleksmastering the Fencer (L19 DsBe of Trog) reached level 3 of the Elven Halls on turn 39521. (Elf:3) 00:34:18 -!- aditya has joined ##crawl-dev 00:35:07 Lightli: keep in mind that Dr is currently significantly overpowered 00:37:18 <|amethyst> !lm aleksmastering ghost 00:37:19 8. [2016-09-20 10:41:07] Aleksmastering the Blocker (L15 DsBe of Trog) killed the ghost of tatulmax the Basher, a journeyman MiBe of Trog on turn 22060. (D:11) 00:37:37 <|amethyst> !lm aleksmastering br.enter=wizlab 00:37:43 -!- Suga_H has quit [Client Quit] 00:37:44 2. [2016-09-20 17:41:39] Aleksmastering the Peltast (L17 DsBe of Trog) entered The Hall of Retot the Hellbinder on turn 29877. (Depths:3) 00:37:51 <|amethyst> !lm aleksmastering br.enter=wizlab -tv 00:37:52 2. Aleksmastering, XL17 DsBe, T:29877 (milestone) requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 00:39:42 <|amethyst> !lm aleksmastering br.enter=wizlab -tv:<0:>2 00:39:43 2. Aleksmastering, XL17 DsBe, T:29877 (milestone) requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 00:43:13 <|amethyst> aha 00:43:17 <|amethyst> stone of tremors 00:45:53 hah 00:46:07 so it can destroy things on the other side of walls from you 00:46:18 <|amethyst> it can't do shit now :) 00:46:26 <|amethyst> but apparently yes 00:46:42 <|amethyst> possibly only stone walls? 00:46:57 this might be the first time in two years of interaction i've seen you swear 00:47:11 <|amethyst> hm 00:47:39 <|amethyst> I don't do it often in writing 00:48:34 <|amethyst> let me see what grep says 00:48:52 <|amethyst> ??|amethyst[24] 00:48:52 |amethyst[24/24]: <|amethyst> but also the general Crawl principle of "we'll do some weird hard-to-tweak shit for our probability distribution, then figure out the math later" 00:49:13 -!- Amnesiac has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:50:37 <|amethyst> several instances of "shit" this year, and a handful of "fuck"s 00:57:56 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 01:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:02:15 i wish i could grep the entire internet to see what the uptick in "cuck" is 01:03:25 randarts generated on cszo probably produced more instances of "[Ss]hit" than you did 01:05:01 -!- destroythecore has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:05:26 minmay: https://www.google.com/trends/explore?q=cuck ? 01:06:14 Related topics: Skrillex 01:08:03 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:08:39 !tell pleasingfungus the display of hp bar seems a little confusing when only one bar is visible. Two people have thought it was a mojibake-style bug 01:08:39 chequers: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 01:15:20 -!- debo_ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:15:23 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:16:52 |amethyst: ok, I do remember that quote 01:18:20 <|amethyst> 2013-01-07.log:18:53 <+|amethyst> blackcustard: split that shit off into functions, yo 01:19:05 here's an example of perspective 01:19:07 good perspective: https://www.google.com/trends/explore?q=nethack,dcss 01:19:14 bad perspective: https://www.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=nethack,dcss 01:20:08 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-1670-gc28a5d9 (34) 01:20:17 -!- debo_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:21:43 <|amethyst> chequers: https://www.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=nethack,dcss,angband,binding%20of%20isaac 01:21:52 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:23:33 ftl also shows something similar 01:23:59 -!- Cimanyd has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:24:33 i guess dungeon crawl needs a realtime component 01:24:57 Oh dear, you've equipped a cursed +0 long blade! Entering the curse avoidance minigame... 01:25:17 <|amethyst> chequers: I was saying a few days ago, that should be the side effect of carrying the orb 01:28:10 -!- Roarke has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:29:31 <|amethyst> chequers: re the hp bar, one option would be to give it a background colour 01:29:58 <|amethyst> chequers: (and pad it out with spaces to some length; it's okay if it goes over that for large monsters) 01:33:30 carrying the orb = realtime crawl?! 01:33:33 <|amethyst> yeah 01:33:38 that's a really clever idea 01:33:44 one second per 1.0 or something 01:33:49 <|amethyst> it's a can of worms though 01:33:57 <|amethyst> consider blind players 01:34:21 yep. you could have an option to disable it but you'd have to score it differently 01:34:37 <|amethyst> also, lag 01:34:49 <|amethyst> for online play 01:35:00 re: background colour -- needs to be clear for monsters with 0 bars worth of hp is my only concern 01:35:12 and what do you do about autotravel 01:35:24 do I get a few seconds after autotravel ends to re-orient myself 01:36:27 <|amethyst> could turn on travel delay and set it to a fixed amount in orbrun mode 01:36:46 <|amethyst> I don't think realtime orbrun would actually work in crawl as it exists now, but 01:37:09 <|amethyst> someone should make that roguelike 01:37:21 <|amethyst> ooh, or one where it starts out as a roguelike 01:37:45 <|amethyst> but with a slow curse turning the world into an action platformer one element at a time 01:37:56 <|amethyst> or vice versa 01:39:12 <|amethyst> I guess there are turn based first-person shooters, that could work as well 01:39:40 <|amethyst> trying to remember the name of that one, it was in a recent Extra Credits "games you might not have tried" 01:43:13 <|amethyst> SuperHot 01:45:42 -!- Roarke has quit [Client Quit] 01:52:48 -!- nikheizen has quit [Quit: leaving] 01:54:15 -!- hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:58:25 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-1670-gc28a5d9 02:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:08:15 yeah, superhot was interesting 02:08:25 but i really disliked the story around the game 02:20:59 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. 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See crawl -help for the argument details. 03:30:47 ??objstat[2 03:30:47 objstat[2/2]: Latest spreadsheets for past releases and trunk (0.19-a0-594-g235f30c): https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B7VXhHzhWWb7S282VWhLVWRXbG8&usp=sharing , See the README for details: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1D5mFqVi8ghz_nzvVmDUc3unx8VanVBWfgvZ8xCHaiJo/edit?usp=sharing 03:31:55 !learn edit objstat[2] s/0.19[^)]+/0.19-a0-1655-gdd95918/ 03:31:56 objstat[2/2]: Latest spreadsheets for past releases and trunk (0.19-a0-1655-gdd95918): https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B7VXhHzhWWb7S282VWhLVWRXbG8&usp=sharing , See the README for details: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1D5mFqVi8ghz_nzvVmDUc3unx8VanVBWfgvZ8xCHaiJo/edit?usp=sharing 03:37:14 -!- DDFi has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:37:58 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.19-a0-1670-gc28a5d9 (34) 03:40:49 -!- Netmonmatt has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 03:41:41 -!- chan20 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:43:02 -!- owl has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:53:40 -!- protopulse has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:59:04 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:03:15 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 04:04:05 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:08:56 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: leaving] 04:08:59 -!- hpm_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:14:41 -!- bcadren has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:18:02 -!- airwolf has quit [Client Quit] 04:20:44 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 04:25:55 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 04:29:26 -!- HolyRage has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:29:32 -!- HolyRage_ is now known as HolyRage 04:46:56 -!- aditya has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:00:31 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 05:07:10 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:38:21 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 05:40:26 !calc 568.0 / 425 05:40:27 1.34 05:40:31 incredible 05:43:22 -!- bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:51:45 -!- Zxpr1jk has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:52:11 -!- M-bbigras has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:57:34 -!- debo_ has joined ##crawl-dev 06:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:00:43 -!- jeefus has joined ##crawl-dev 06:00:44 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:04:10 -!- jefus- has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:07:34 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:15:42 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 06:26:50 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:46:33 -!- chan20 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:51:34 -!- ololoev has quit [Client Quit] 06:52:12 -!- miek_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:58:39 -!- ololoev has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:08:37 -!- Alcopop has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:15:37 -!- Yermak has joined ##crawl-dev 07:15:47 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 07:15:56 There has been a feature regression with single tile exceptions: 07:16:29 didn't they use to state what was excluded? 07:16:49 Currently, Ctrl-O just says: D:1: 1 exclusion. 07:22:14 -!- buki has quit [Quit: leaving] 07:36:51 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 07:37:16 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 07:54:12 yeah it did 07:59:42 -!- HolyRage has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 07:59:54 -!- HolyRage_ is now known as HolyRage 08:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:03:10 -!- debo_ is now known as debo 08:03:42 -!- ololoev has quit [Client Quit] 08:08:19 also with excluded monsters, will file a BR 08:13:32 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 08:21:21 -!- Dracunos-m has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:21:37 -!- chan20_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:25:54 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 08:31:23 -!- jeefus is now known as jefus 08:36:36 -!- chan20 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:40:58 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 08:45:23 -!- chan20 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:51:07 dpeg: they only stated that for excluded monsters, and I think they still do? 08:51:43 specifically when a monster is at the center of the exclusion 08:56:01 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 09:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:03:20 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 09:13:31 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:13:31 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:13:53 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 09:36:31 -!- Cheibriados has joined ##crawl-dev 09:36:31 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: Crawl Development | Logs: http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/ | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general Crawl-related chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to a pastebin service, please. 09:36:32 -!- The topic of ##crawl is: Play Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup online now! Type ??servers for instructions. | http://crawl.develz.org | FooTV: http://termcast.develz.org - ??footv for instructions | See also ##crawl-offtopic 09:53:22 tatulmax (L3 MiBe) ASSERT(load_mode != LOAD_VISITOR) in 'files.cc' at line 1280 failed. (D:255) 09:58:22 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 09:58:40 tatulmax (L2 MiBe) ASSERT(load_mode != LOAD_VISITOR) in 'files.cc' at line 1280 failed. (D:255) 10:00:00 -!- qguv has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:04:37 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 10:07:41 dpeg: it is working fine for me 10:07:51 dpeg: are you sure the monster is at the center of the exclusion? 10:08:24 D:1 exclusion: rat 10:09:28 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:13:58 <|amethyst> did the rat move? 10:14:48 <|amethyst> oh, I see, even that doesn't matter 10:15:50 <|amethyst> I'm not seeing dpeg's bug either 10:16:28 elliptic: okay, will try again. I did center on a monster, yes. 10:16:34 perhaps CDO is behind the times? 10:16:55 <|amethyst> !lm * cdo x=vlong 10:16:59 <|amethyst> !lm dpeg cdo x=vlong 10:17:09 2802846. [2016-09-21 14:13:43] [vlong=0.19-a0-1670-gc28a5d9] neofelis the Warrior (L22 VSBe of Trog) entered a Bazaar on turn 52304. (Depths:1) 10:17:11 9952. [2016-09-21 13:14:30] [vlong=0.19-a0-1670-gc28a5d9] dpeg the Gouger (L9 FeAr of Kikubaaqudgha) shot by a centaur (arrow) (D:8) 10:17:15 <|amethyst> %git 10:17:15 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.19-a0-1670-gc28a5d9: Tweak branch ambient noise, again 10(14 hours ago, 1 file, 6+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c28a5d92d6b9 10:17:25 <|amethyst> no, wouldn't be that 10:25:57 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 10:26:03 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:28:04 -!- Dracunos-m has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:32:03 -!- cait_m has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:32:59 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 10:38:23 -!- adelrune has joined ##crawl-dev 10:39:22 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 10:43:22 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 10:44:56 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:45:02 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 10:45:05 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 10:47:12 -!- LexAckson_ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:49:05 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:50:35 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:51:13 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 10:51:46 -!- HolyRage has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:51:59 -!- HolyRage_ is now known as HolyRage 10:54:24 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:54:42 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 10:55:05 -!- LexAckson_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:56:29 <|amethyst> !tell johnstein my 0.18 game, crashed in wizmode, has been stuck ("Another game is in progress..") for several hours 10:56:29 |amethyst: OK, I'll let johnstein know. 10:57:01 <|amethyst> !tell johnstein it will probably crash anyway if it is restarted, so you can remove the save while you're at it 10:57:01 |amethyst: OK, I'll let johnstein know. 10:57:18 <|amethyst> !tell johnstein (0.18, not trunk) 10:57:19 |amethyst: OK, I'll let johnstein know. 10:58:41 -!- chan20 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:00:34 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 11:01:12 -!- HolyRage has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:09:45 -!- eb has quit [] 11:10:00 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:10:29 -!- geedmat has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:18:01 -!- shnurlf has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:33:36 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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Use !messages to read them. 11:58:28 not me 11:58:39 and hello fungus 11:58:49 :) 12:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:24:01 -!- adelrune has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:26:39 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 12:30:25 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:30:47 -!- anticore has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:36:18 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 12:44:42 -!- aditya has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:49:47 -!- orionstein has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:53:18 -!- Gobbo is now known as GoblinBomb 12:55:55 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:00:16 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. 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I had fencer's gloves on a low-ev char and am not sure at all how often that was triggered, would be nice to know. 16:03:10 gammafunk: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 16:04:26 Lasty: And I won my second NaWn, my first NaWn having clearly lost due to Uskayaw's insufficiencies! 16:06:14 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:09:55 -!- adelrune has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:15:51 -!- packet_loss has joined ##crawl-dev 16:17:01 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 16:17:57 -!- sneakyness has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:19:35 -!- Kenran has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:34:13 -!- Dracunos7 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:37:13 Wrong message when summoned ally heals me 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10691 by Psieye 16:45:18 -!- cait_m has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:45:35 -!- THERetroGamerNY has quit [Quit: Be Blessed!] 16:47:04 -!- byrel has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:47:16 -!- Bammboo has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:51:15 welp, time to upgrade irssi I guess! 16:52:00 -!- gammafunk has quit [Read error: error:1408F10B:SSL routines:SSL3_GET_RECORD:wrong version number] 16:52:46 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 16:54:32 -!- Prozacelf has joined ##crawl-dev 16:56:04 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 17:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:03:53 -!- packet_loss has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:07:43 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 17:17:40 -!- Doctell has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:24:19 -!- flappity_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:26:22 New branch created: riposte_count (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/tree/riposte_count 17:26:22 03PleasingFungus02 07[riposte_count] * 0.19-a0-1671-ga490e70: Count Riposte actions separately (gammafunk) 10(28 seconds ago, 3 files, 10+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a490e70a6faf 17:26:25 -!- Dracunos-m has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:26:54 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 17:32:47 -!- broquaint has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:33:00 -!- broquaint has joined ##crawl-dev 17:33:28 -!- adelrune has joined ##crawl-dev 17:34:11 -!- |amethyst has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:34:13 -!- adelrune has quit [Client Quit] 17:34:28 -!- HellTiger_NB has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:35:34 -!- |amethyst has joined ##crawl-dev 17:35:34 -!- |amethyst has quit [Client Quit] 17:36:26 -!- |amethyst has joined ##crawl-dev 17:42:17 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:42:43 -!- insecticide has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:44:52 -!- hpm_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:53:58 -!- miek_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:56:39 -!- Lasty has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:57:13 PleasingFungus: nice 17:57:32 I do love that enum prefix 17:57:36 "CACT" 17:57:37 feels a little verbose to me (since it's the full per-weapon thing etc), but if you like it, feel free to cherry-pick it 17:57:41 haha, yes 17:57:44 prickly! 17:58:06 -!- LexAckson_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:59:38 oh I see, so those ripostes were being counted, just along with directly performed melee 17:59:46 -!- Netmonmatt has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 17:59:54 -!- xnavy has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:00:04 yeah 18:00:28 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 18:00:41 -!- jeefus has joined ##crawl-dev 18:00:42 so each type of longblade (or each weapon type with fencer's gloves) gets a melee and riposte count 18:01:13 everything you use, yeah 18:01:19 seemed like the simplest implementation 18:01:36 i wanted to fold minotaur horns in there too, but that'd be more work 18:01:47 and probably more scary magic numbers 18:01:58 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:02:21 The game crashes 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10692 by MrWaffle69 18:03:54 mrwaffle69... 18:04:22 -!- jefus has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:07:29 gosh darn 18:07:32 I have 3 alichs on screen right now 18:07:33 -!- rubinko has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:07:45 have you considered dying 18:07:59 http://puu.sh/rjlXd/be4cdaf231.jpg 18:08:11 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.19-a0-1670-gc28a5d9 (34) 18:08:12 it's so nice to have friends 18:08:23 still gonna have to recommend the dying thing, though 18:08:33 I refuse 18:08:49 be like that! 18:10:17 good thing none of those lichs knew abjuration 18:10:19 you should be fine. looks liek you have plenty of...friendly...white birds? 18:10:26 caustic shrikes 18:10:30 they totally murdered the lichs 18:11:22 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 18:11:23 The build passed. (riposte_count - a490e70 #6763 : Nicholas Feinberg): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/161757707 18:11:23 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 18:11:24 i miss metal shrikes 18:11:33 !lm canofworms 18:11:34 3841. [2016-09-21 21:58:05] wormsofcan the Grand Gadgeteer (L27 KoHu of Pakellas) left the Realm of Zot on turn 113247. (Zot:1) 18:11:40 !lg canofworms 18:11:40 131. wormsofcan the Quickloader (L11 KoHu of Uskayaw), mangled by Urug (a +1 battleaxe of flaming) on D:10 on 2016-06-05 04:37:10, with 8257 points after 14869 turns and 0:36:33. 18:12:46 i'm on berotato if you want to watch me splat IN REAL TIME 18:13:06 I'm already spectating on cbro, but I'll check the log 18:13:07 heck... what could be better 18:13:34 ??dowsing 18:13:34 dowsing card[1/1]: Gives 1 to 3 effects out of mapping, detect traps and items, telepathy (detects creatures for a duration). Randomly selects one of the three at power 0, another at power 1 (might be the same again), all three at power 2. 18:13:38 wasn't this card removed? 18:13:47 !gitgrep 1 [dD]owsing 18:13:48 %git HEAD^{/[dD]owsing} 18:13:48 07MarvinPA02 * 0.19-a0-545-g8323b11: Remove the Dowsing card 10(4 months ago, 9 files, 7+ 64-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8323b11ed209 18:13:51 indeed 18:14:06 is it lurking in the code, or just learndb? 18:14:24 well I'm spectating a 0.18 game that had it but 18:14:35 I wanted to confirm after reading the learndb and not seeing removal mention 18:14:38 when I thought it had been 18:14:44 !learn edit downsing_card[1] s/$/ Remove in 0.19./ 18:14:44 I don't have a page labeled downsing_card[1] in my learndb. 18:14:53 !learn edit dowsing_card[1] s/$/ Removed in 0.19./ 18:14:53 dowsing card[1/1]: Gives 1 to 3 effects out of mapping, detect traps and items, telepathy (detects creatures for a duration). Randomly selects one of the three at power 0, another at power 1 (might be the same again), all three at power 2. Removed in 0.19. 18:15:10 !lm CanOfWorms x=cv 18:15:10 3842. [2016-09-21 22:14:34] [cv=0.19-a] wormsofcan the Grand Gadgeteer (L27 KoHu of Pakellas) found the Orb of Zot! (Zot:5) 18:15:12 !lm * alive pak x=cdist(gid) 18:15:16 dang, legacy pak 18:15:17 3169 milestones for * (alive pak): cdist(game_key)=151 18:15:39 !lg devteamnp pak won s=name 18:15:42 12 games for devteamnp (pak won): 4x Lasty, 3x gammafunk, doy, SGrunt, amalloy, MarvinPA, elliptic 18:15:49 soon, as many pak games as True pokemon 18:16:43 no love for mew 18:16:45 sad! 18:19:47 rip pakellas 18:19:52 nice 18:19:55 this game is literally 18:19:58 1 year old 18:20:08 !lg . log 18:20:09 132. wormsofcan, XL27 KoHu, T:116233: http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/wormsofcan/morgue-wormsofcan-20160921-221937.txt 18:20:12 nice 18:20:15 oh wait no 18:20:16 !lm . x=start 18:20:17 6834. [2016-09-10 16:00:37] [start=2016-06-28 07:18:48 [20160528071848S]] pleasingfungus the Devastator (L24 HEAE of Hepliaklqana) ASSERT(col < MAX TERM COLOUR) in 'options.h' at line 614 failed on turn 56749. (Vaults:3) 18:20:18 half a year 18:20:21 I misread the end date 18:20:26 mine's only 4 months 18:20:31 er, not even half a year??? 18:20:34 heh 18:20:38 I guess I played it later than I thought 18:20:51 still a stupidly long break 18:21:10 oh well, that's one more species and background towards greaterplayer :toot: 18:21:20 !greatplayer 18:21:39 Unwon species for CanOfWorms: Deep Elf, Demigod, Draconian, Felid, Gargoyle, High Elf, Merfolk, Mummy, Naga, Octopode 18:22:01 -!- Ququman has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:22:15 -!- AltReality has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:24:06 high elf...might want to win that one soon 18:24:15 heh 18:24:22 !greaterplayer 18:24:23 otherwise what happens is midnight strikes and your account is locked forever 18:24:32 Unwon backgrounds for CanOfWorms: Arcane Marksman, Artificer, Chaos Knight, Earth Elementalist, Fire Elementalist, Ice Elementalist, Skald, Summoner, Transmuter, Venom Mage, Wizard 18:24:33 !hs * hewn 18:24:34 10122. watermold the Meteorologist (L27 HEWn of Dithmenos), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2016-07-22 14:08:35, with 17711189 points after 87628 turns and 9:51:28. 18:24:36 what 18:24:39 this is perfidious 18:24:39 rekt 18:24:45 what you need to do is 18:24:48 !hs * grdk 18:24:48 13. gammafunk the Petrodigitator (L27 GrDK of Vehumet), escaped with the Orb and 5 runes on 2013-06-02 14:19:32, with 2159344 points after 139579 turns and 18:23:15. 18:24:51 and even better 18:24:53 !hs * grdk -2 18:24:54 12/13. 78291 the Wrestler (L27 GrDK of Yredelemnul), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2013-05-31 15:40:32, with 1478518 points after 92378 turns and 5:23:39. 18:24:56 i'd have done that if you just removed he already!!! 18:24:57 you dethrone da king 18:25:08 I must await the MarvinPA... 18:25:14 The oracle must speak... 18:25:19 let me see what background I can use with HE 18:25:27 sk is fun 18:25:30 AE good obv 18:25:39 hmm 18:25:45 I also recommend....HESu... 18:25:45 Sk the power background 18:25:56 hey fun is all we care about here! 18:25:57 I want to greaterplayer while I greatplayer so I need to figure out which backgrounds I'm going to give to the weaker races 18:26:04 if we removed non power things we'd remove chei! 18:26:25 yeah stronger bg for HE is wise if you want the win to be quick 18:26:35 !greaterplayer canofworms 18:26:42 !lg . he won 1 18:26:43 1/2. amalloy the Slayer (L25 HESk of Ru), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2015-06-12 06:52:59, with 1452523 points after 89568 turns and 13:47:41. 18:26:45 Unwon backgrounds for canofworms: Arcane Marksman, Artificer, Chaos Knight, Earth Elementalist, Fire Elementalist, Ice Elementalist, Skald, Summoner, Transmuter, Venom Mage, Wizard 18:26:48 actually, !greaterplayer wormsofcan 18:26:48 dang 18:26:50 that's some list 18:27:01 why wormsofcan? 18:27:05 you can use your nick for greaterplayer 18:27:08 because that's the account I'm greaterplayering 18:27:15 that one's picking up the t account to 18:27:16 *too 18:27:16 well greaterplayer obeys nicks! 18:27:25 but fine 18:27:32 !greaterplayer wormsofcan 18:27:42 Unwon backgrounds for wormsofcan: Air Elementalist, Arcane Marksman, Artificer, Chaos Knight, Earth Elementalist, Fire Elementalist, Ice Elementalist, Necromancer, Skald, Summoner, Transmuter, Venom Mage, Wanderer, Warper, Wizard 18:27:43 !apt he 18:27:43 HE: Fighting: 0, Short: 2, Long: 2!, Axes: -2, Maces: -2, Polearms: -2, Staves: 0, Slings: -2, Bows: 3!, Xbows: 0, Throw: 0, Armour: -1, Dodge: 1, Stealth: 2, Shields: -1, UC: -2*, Splcast: 1, Conj: 1, Hexes: 0, Charms: 2, Summ: -1, Nec: -2, Tloc: 1, Tmut: 1, Fire: 0, Ice: 0, Air: 2, Earth: -2, Poison: -2, Inv: 1, Evo: 0, Exp: -1, HP: -1, MP: 1 18:27:47 I see AE in that 18:28:01 HEIE also nice 18:28:01 if you want a strong bg 18:28:06 unless you're saving IE for something weaker 18:28:14 I probably will 18:28:30 thinking su, ne, ie and possibly fe for the weaker races 18:28:36 yeah 18:28:45 !greatplayer wormsofcan 18:28:55 Unwon species for wormsofcan: Centaur, Deep Dwarf, Deep Elf, Demigod, Draconian, Felid, Gargoyle, Ghoul, Halfling, High Elf, Merfolk, Mummy, Naga, Octopode, Ogre, Troll, Vampire 18:29:15 I'd say HEAE 18:29:36 Mu Na Op DE are your other weak ones 18:30:14 yeah that sounds good 18:30:17 let's static discharge it up 18:32:16 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 18:32:52 !polytheist wormsofcan 18:33:09 Unwon gods for wormsofcan: , Beogh, Cheibriados, Dithmenos, Elyvilon, Fedhas, Gozag, Hepliaklqana, Jiyva, Kikubaaqudgha, Nemelex Xobeh, Ru, Sif Muna, The Shining One, Ukayaw, Uskayaw, Xom, Yredelemnul 18:34:06 !lg . won s=start,crace o=start pfm:"$child" 18:34:07 66 games for gammafunk (won): 2016-09-08 04:25:37 (Naga), 2016-08-02 01:25:53 (Octopode), 2016-07-16 00:46:28 (Hill Orc), 2016-07-05 01:05:15 (Human), 2016-05-27 01:08:03 (Demonspawn), 2016-05-19 22:27:11 (High Elf), 2016-05-16 02:59:52 (Deep Elf), 2016-05-13 08:52:13 (Vine Stalker), 2016-05-12 23:56:48 (Centaur), 2016-05-11 00:02:27 (Spriggan), 2016-05-08 19:15:16 (Kobold), 2016-05-01 02:39:04 (D... 18:34:10 !lg . won s=start,crace o=start pfmt:"$child" 18:34:11 66 games for gammafunk (won): Naga, Octopode, Hill Orc, Human, Demonspawn, High Elf, Deep Elf, Vine Stalker, Centaur, Spriggan, Kobold, Draconian, Tengu, Mummy, Formicid, Demigod, Merfolk, Naga, Spriggan, Kobold, Troll, Halfling, Ogre, Vampire, Felid, Hill Orc, Deep Dwarf, Gargoyle, Human, Ghoul, Halfling, Vine Stalker, Draconian, Octopode, Spriggan, High Elf, Kobold, Troll, Deep Elf, Hill Orc, Na... 18:35:34 miek_: are you proficient in sequellese? 18:36:02 kramin isn't around, otherwise I'd ask him 18:36:05 -!- nikheizen has joined ##crawl-dev 18:37:05 -!- Kranix has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 18:38:05 gammafunk: what are you trying to do? list your wins in order? it looks like you did that already so there must be something else 18:42:11 yeah 18:42:11 miek_: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 18:42:20 semi-proficient 18:42:45 what are you trying to do? 18:44:44 miek_: I'd like to make a command that basically shows "races listed in order by how many wins ago since I've won them" 18:45:28 so I won Mu 14 wins ago, and if that was the race with the most wins since I've won it, it'd say as the output of this command 18:45:33 Mummy (14), ... 18:46:12 in my case mu isn't the species that would be listed first since fo and maybe others have more wins since I've won them, but just an example 18:46:20 and likewise a command like this but for classes 18:46:56 not sure how many people would use this, but I find myself wanting to see that info a bunch when deciding what to win next 18:47:18 I can certainly write this command, but it's tricky enough that I'm wondering how to do it efficiently 18:48:05 yeah that's a tricky one 18:48:46 maybe I'll !tell kramin about it and see if he has a pointer, otherwise I'll just give it a shot myself 18:49:23 !lg gammafunk won s=crace x=max(end) s=max(end) 18:49:23 Too many grouping terms (extra: s=max(end)) 18:49:36 !lg gammafunk won s=crace x=max(end) o=max(end) 18:49:37 66 games for gammafunk (won): 3x Naga [2016-09-21 05:31:11], 4x Octopode [2016-08-24 01:42:21], 3x Hill Orc [2016-08-02 01:17:04], 3x Human [2016-07-09 07:44:40], 3x Demonspawn [2016-05-30 10:06:06], 4x High Elf [2016-05-21 01:54:08], 2x Deep Elf [2016-05-17 04:30:55], 3x Vine Stalker [2016-05-14 04:15:56], 2x Centaur [2016-05-13 08:41:49], 4x Spriggan [2016-05-11 21:35:06], 4x Kobold [2016-05-09 ... 18:49:47 !lg gammafunk won s=crace x=max(end) o=-max(end) 18:49:47 66 games for gammafunk (won): 2x Ghoul [2015-12-18 03:11:22], 2x Gargoyle [2016-01-31 17:42:57], 2x Deep Dwarf [2016-02-05 21:31:41], 2x Felid [2016-03-03 01:17:54], 2x Vampire [2016-03-26 03:36:17], 2x Ogre [2016-03-27 23:51:02], 3x Halfling [2016-04-02 19:37:55], 3x Troll [2016-04-04 20:45:11], 2x Merfolk [2016-04-16 21:40:12], 2x Demigod [2016-04-20 00:18:12], 2x Formicid [2016-04-21 00:31:15],... 18:49:50 that gets you the order 18:49:54 but doesn't get you the info inside it 18:50:06 hrm 18:50:18 why is fo not listed? 18:50:22 er there it is at the end 18:50:41 kmmm 18:50:58 -!- Bammboo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:51:12 apparently your last fo win was april 18:52:00 I can get the info inside it but I'm unsure how to do it without doing a sequell query per race 18:52:00 yeah that probably is the ordering I want 18:52:08 that's actually most of what I need 18:52:19 the count is kind of less important anyhow 18:52:46 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 18:52:46 so thanks for that s=max(end) thing, should have thought of that! 18:52:57 no worries 18:53:04 I learnt that from Kramin anyway lol 18:53:15 kramin is a bot, not surprising 18:54:06 -!- flowsnake has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:54:07 -!- Dracunos has joined ##crawl-dev 18:56:09 -!- Dracunos-m has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:56:49 -!- packet_loss has joined ##crawl-dev 19:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:01:45 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:03:10 -!- tksquared has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:04:47 -!- HolyRage has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:04:53 -!- HolyRage_ is now known as HolyRage 19:10:49 jellies can still eat doors, right? 19:11:12 ya 19:12:26 do they still split when doing that? 19:12:48 and I swear that was changed so they can't, but maybe I'm misremembering 19:13:28 no idea 19:14:13 Shift L-Click (drop) item closes game without saving 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10693 by Trobe 19:15:04 based on a recent reddit post i think #10693 might be related to using shift-click to drop while a --more-- is displayed 19:15:09 -!- hellmonk has joined ##crawl-dev 19:15:19 amalloy: yes, i spent a while trying to reproduce that 19:15:31 tried in trunk, 0.18, both with the shift-click and --more-- technique 19:15:33 got nowhere 19:15:35 it might be windows-only 19:15:38 fun 19:16:10 well i'll try to repro too 19:17:47 maybe post a link to the reddit thread in that report 19:18:09 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:23:56 !winssinceracewon 19:24:14 well, HEAE doing good 19:24:29 Naga: 0, Octopode: 1, Hill_Orc: 2, Human: 3, Demonspawn: 4, High_Elf: 5, Deep_Elf: 6, Vine_Stalker: 7, Centaur: 8, Spriggan: 9, Kobold: 10, Draconian: 11, Tengu: 12, Mummy: 13, Formicid: 14, Demigod: 15, Merfolk: 16, Troll: 20, Halfling: 21, Ogre: 22, Vampire: 23, Felid: 24, Deep_Dwarf: 26, Gargoyle: 27, Ghoul: 29 19:24:29 found a book of power and a randart book with battlesphere 19:24:33 you'll mess up and die, don't worry 19:24:44 I've already checked the rng, you die in Elf 19:24:49 !!! 19:24:56 what's the command that randomly generates a death again 19:25:04 !rip CanOfWorms 19:25:08 wormsofcan the Destroyer (L10 HEAE), worshipper of Ru, slain by a ten-headed hydra on Lair:2, with 3898 points after 6718 turns and 0:34:39. 19:25:13 deng 19:25:27 !rip gammafunk 19:25:33 gammafunk the Destroyer (L10 KoIE), worshipper of Sif Muna, engulfed by a deep elf mage's steam on Volcano, with 5926 points after 12239 turns and 0:43:05. 19:25:40 so many destroyers! 19:25:52 devs like to break things 19:26:11 that's what happens when the game drops book of power on you 19:28:22 -!- packet_loss has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:32:44 -!- protopulse has joined ##crawl-dev 19:34:19 !greatoneandwon 19:34:34 non-oneandwon races for gammafunk: Deep Elf, Minotaur, Octopode, High Elf, Mummy, Gargoyle, Hill Orc, Merfolk, Tengu, Naga, Ogre, Formicid, Demigod, Felid, Halfling 19:34:59 not even half 19:35:03 !greateroneandwon 19:35:17 non-oneandwon roles for gammafunk: Berserker, Wizard, Wanderer, Transmuter, Fire Elementalist, Assassin, Abyssal Knight, Chaos Knight, Skald, Ice Elementalist, Earth Elementalist, Air Elementalist, Venom Mage, Arcane Marksman 19:36:26 !crystalball CanOfWorms 19:36:32 CanOfWorms the Destroyer (L11 HEAE), worshipper of Ru, demolished by a minotaur (the +8 Wrath of Trog {antimagic, *Rage}) on Lab, with 6883 points after 9878 turns and 0:40:02. 19:36:45 !cmd cyrstalball 19:36:45 No command !cyrstalball 19:36:49 !cmd crystalball 19:36:49 Command: !crystalball => .echo $(name_fixup ${1:-.}) $(let* (lm (split | (=rip.lm $1 $*)) game (split | (!rg * $(=rip.opts) xl>=$lm[2] xl<=$(* 1.5 $lm[2]) absdepth>$lm[6] fmt:"$vmsg|$place|$sc|$turn|$dur|$xl"))) (ripformat $lm[0] $lm[1] $game[5] $lm[3] $game[0] $game[1] $game[2] $game[3] $game[4])) 19:37:03 rip.opts 19:37:11 customized ripping 19:37:34 greateroneandwon 19:37:50 that's a good command though, basically !rip but for the current character? 19:38:09 both are for current character 19:38:19 rip is pretending it died earlier, crystalball is envisioning a future death 19:38:29 oh, didn't realize that about rip 19:38:34 good to know 19:39:53 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 19:42:26 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:44:09 -!- ProzacElf_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:47:36 so, a thought 19:47:42 does riposte trigger pain mirror 19:47:57 !crystalball gammafunk 19:48:00 gammafunk the Destroyer (L13 KoIE), worshipper of Sif Muna, blasted by an oklob plant (splash of acid) on Lair:6, with 26705 points after 13499 turns and 0:09:02. 19:48:09 CanOfWorms: probably 19:48:21 !lg . ckiller~~oklob 19:48:22 1. gammafunk the Severer (L12 MuGl of Gozag), splashed by an oklob plant's acid on Lair:7 (minmay_slime_entry_oklob_enclosed) on 2014-11-15 03:49:49, with 20871 points after 21212 turns and 1:42:27. 19:48:28 !lg . ckiller~~oklo 19:48:29 1. PleasingFungus the Slicer (L11 KoCj of Vehumet), blasted by an oklob plant (splash of acid) on D:11 (dpeg_oklobed_lair) on 2014-10-09 15:31:04, with 8497 points after 11292 turns and 0:56:39. 19:48:30 can't wait to see a YASD from a riposte pain mirror 19:48:38 heh 19:51:11 -!- HolyRage has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:51:17 -!- HolyRage_ is now known as HolyRage 19:56:42 -!- Amnesiac has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:59:17 how is M/V/1 HP/MP recovery determined if you're attacking with summons but still get the last kill 19:59:41 i.e. is there a difference between killing the monster yourself, and letting your allies get the monster to low HP and getting the last hit 19:59:51 M/V/1 19:59:53 what 19:59:59 oh, makh/veh/tso 20:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:00:26 ally kills count as your kills these days for conduct stuff 20:00:26 lemme check 20:00:58 yeah, should work fine with allies 20:02:02 oh, they do? 20:02:31 last time (I think in 0.16?) I didn't get HP recovery with makh 20:02:33 with a fesu 20:02:36 which sucked... a lot... 20:02:45 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:03:16 yeah 20:03:29 because counting ally kills separately was dumb 20:03:47 lemme double check 20:04:48 update: i lied 20:04:51 haha 20:04:59 so it's still dumb and you still want to last hit 20:05:20 imo someone should fix that 20:07:02 PF trying to distance DCSS from the DotA audience 20:07:33 actually i'm gonna add shackleshot 20:08:03 shackshot would be a really interesting ability in dcss geometry 20:09:23 shackleshot is probably only as cool as it is because of the real time element and projectile flight, but who knows 20:10:00 i feel like it'd overlap heavily with force lance but it'd still be cool to try to make it work 20:10:52 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 20:11:26 unironic suggestion to remove force lance 20:12:11 it might be good these days. i'm not sure 20:14:09 it was pretty nice when last i used it 20:15:11 instead remove the +9 to mana attribute on items and rings of magical power 20:15:21 y 20:15:52 would that need a replacement 20:16:21 is that y meaning why or y meaning yes 20:16:36 it's a why 20:16:58 I think 20:16:59 ^ 20:18:05 -!- Shard1697_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:19:05 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:22:38 y 20:22:45 (guess which that is) 20:23:10 because fake mana is fucking wierd (see DD), its never terribly interesting to find, nor does it "feel" good (like mana regen does, it feels more like an extra "spell per day" if you'll excuse the reference), it doesn't present the wielding choices like |Power (which isn't terribly interesting on its own) and it does silly things like letting zig characters have >100 mana (not that zigs being silly 20:23:16 is a big deal imo) 20:23:41 s/its never/it's never/ 20:24:11 hrm 20:24:12 getting MP+9 early on as any caster background is pretty strong though 20:24:18 disagree about it not feeling good 20:24:29 =MP feels really good early on for casters 20:24:34 ^ 20:24:40 i don't care at all about zig characters 20:24:43 i found one on D:2 on this offline VpEn 20:24:52 and it's insane 20:25:21 randarts are always going to have wielding choices 20:25:26 just by the virtue of being randarts 20:25:33 that's not what I mean by "feel" good. let me try to think of a good example to explain. 20:25:36 -!- cait_m has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:25:50