00:10:00 -!- adelrune [~guillaume@107.171.209.9] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:17:00 -!- kdrnic_ [~ClaudiusG@177.156.155.132] has joined ##crawl-dev 00:18:00 -!- kdrnic [~ClaudiusG@189.58.216.39.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:19:00 -!- MarvinPA [~MarvinPA@2.27.243.195] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:24:00 -!- PleasingFungus [~chatzilla@c-67-188-112-7.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##crawl-dev 00:24:00 -!- mode/##crawl-dev [+v PleasingFungus] by ChanServ 00:25:00 Brannock: got to the part where the guy quilled himself and started talking about how much pain he was in and decided that was enough 00:25:00 PleasingFungus: You have 5 messages. Use !messages to read them. 00:25:00 -!- zxc [~zxc232@124-168-233-12.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined ##crawl-dev 00:26:00 -!- kdrnic [~ClaudiusG@187.115.112.206] has joined ##crawl-dev 00:27:00 The AST is pretty good though. He even talks about the ridges! 00:27:00 you should not merge nicolae's vaults because the pun is so bad 00:28:00 lol 00:28:00 which pun? 00:28:00 "desolation of vaults" 00:28:00 oo... 00:29:00 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.19-a0-1654-g9d3f708 (34) 00:29:00 so how likely is HE to be removed at this point? Should I try winning HEFE before it's too late or is it not something to worry about right now? 00:30:00 ??quite 00:30:00 quite ~ quit[1/2]: Quitters never win or escape or die. 00:30:00 what in life is certain? 00:30:00 death 00:30:00 you die... 00:30:00 Save macros? 00:30:00 -!- kdrnic_ [~ClaudiusG@177.156.155.132] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:30:00 death may not be certain within 25 years, which is horrifying if you read the right scifi shortstories 00:31:00 that said 00:31:00 I'd win that HEFE 00:31:00 as Ba look very imminent 00:31:00 speaking of; I don't really get the appeal of them right now compared to Dr or the like 00:31:00 stop reading 4chan, imo 00:31:00 I don't get it 00:32:00 what do you find similar between Ba and Dr? 00:32:00 I mean in terms of viability, not in terms of mechanics 00:32:00 Ba and Dr are actually sort of similar IMO, I was thinking about this earlier 00:32:00 in what way? 00:33:00 spellcasting-oriented species that can't wear most armour 00:33:00 flat apts 00:33:00 chequers: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 00:33:00 they both have fairly flat apts and more casty-oriented 00:33:00 !messages 00:33:00 (1/1) hellmonk said (3m 57s ago): please update hellcrawl whenever you get the chance (fixed bugs w/ monster removals) 00:33:00 and they have weird defenses, though in different ways 00:33:00 !apt Dr 00:33:00 Dr: Fighting: 1, Short: 0, Long: 0, Axes: 0, Maces: 0, Polearms: 0, Staves: 0, Slings: -1, Bows: -1, Xbows: -1, Throw: -1, Armour: N/A, Dodge: -1, Stealth: 0, Shields: 0, UC: 0, Splcast: -1, Conj: 0, Hexes: -1, Charms: -1, Summ: 0, Nec: 0, Tloc: 0, Tmut: 0, Fire: 0, Ice: 0, Air: 0, Earth: 0, Poison: 0, Inv: 1, Evo: 0, Exp: -1, HP: 1, MP: 0 00:34:00 would you say Dr are casty oriented because no body armour + equally good apts in melee/spellcasting is "casty oriented"? 00:34:00 to some extent Dr already fills the niche of "caster with a bunch of HP" 00:34:00 I did suggest to gammafunk to focus their casting aptitudes, but I don't think that would really solve the problrems 00:34:00 s/problrems/problems 00:35:00 bcadren I think once had an interesting species sketch on the forum about a big species with high stealth and magic apts 00:35:00 maybe it just tickled my lore-bone 00:35:00 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 00:35:00 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 00:35:00 stealth doesn't do much unless you're heavily stealth. 00:36:00 you'll at most get closer to the target before having to do things 00:36:00 anyway I don't know if that vague Dr-Ba similarity is necessarily a problem, we certainly have more similar pairs of species already 00:36:00 but it did come to mind - I think they might be more similar than Og and Ba for instance 00:36:00 stealth is mostly nice for avoiding fights, rather than for stabbing 00:36:00 elliptic, while I agree, the idea of transforming HE into Ba was to differentiate HE from Hu/DE/Mf/Te 00:36:00 can make the difference between getting spotted while at low health and not 00:36:00 -!- Lightli [182f808f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.47.128.143] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:37:00 Brannock: sure, and Ba is definitely more distinct from other species than HE currently is 00:38:00 -!- kdrnic_ [~ClaudiusG@186.213.140.24] has joined ##crawl-dev 00:40:00 Yeah I think Dr was the answer for "easier caster race" in many situations, and that's certainly a niche Ba would also try to fill 00:40:00 <|amethyst> re big races with high stealth and decent magic, there's naga 00:40:00 I don't think Ba need high stealth 00:41:00 !apt na 00:41:00 Na: Fighting: 0, Short: 0, Long: 0, Axes: 0, Maces: 0, Polearms: 0, Staves: 0, Slings: -1, Bows: -1, Xbows: -1, Throw: -1, Armour: -2, Dodge: -2, Stealth: 5!, Shields: -2, UC: 0, Splcast: -1, Conj: 0, Hexes: 0, Charms: 0, Summ: 0, Nec: 0, Tloc: 0, Tmut: 0, Fire: 0, Ice: 0, Air: 0, Earth: 0, Poison: 3!, Inv: 1, Evo: 0, Exp: 0, HP: 2, MP: 0 00:41:00 -!- Dracunos [Dracunos@cpe-76-89-122-10.dc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:41:00 naga stealth is cool because sometimes you can use it to avoid fights despite the slow movement 00:41:00 fwiw I think Ba should have good elemental apts. But obv that's up to gammafunk 00:41:00 on normal speed races stealth is sort of not very useful because you can usually just walk away 00:42:00 for 1.0 races it's more "do they notice me" 00:42:00 yeah it's mostly useful if you have a high enough stealth apt so that you can do good stabbing 00:42:00 I haven't really tried to make a stabber from a +0 stealth species 00:42:00 !apt stealth 00:42:00 -!- kdrnic [~ClaudiusG@187.115.112.206] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:42:00 Stealth: Na: 5!, Sp: 5!, Vp: 5!, Ko: 4, Op: 4, Fe: 4, DE: 3, VS: 3, Fo: 3, DD: 3, Mf: 2, Gh: 2, Ha: 2, Gr: 2, HE: 2, Te: 1, Hu: 1, Dg: 0, Dr: 0, Ds: 0, HO: -1, Mi: -1, Og: -1, Mu: -1, Ce: -3, Tr: -4* 00:42:00 -!- Lightli [182f808f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.47.128.143] has joined ##crawl-dev 00:42:00 I'm sure it would be just fine though 00:42:00 ...just choose En 00:43:00 spl-damage.cc:2280:32: warning: unused variable 'grid' [-Wunused-variable] 00:43:00 I'm going to hedge my bets and split out the HE removal commit just in case 00:43:00 is it worth removing HE without any species to replace it? 00:44:00 stealth is pretty weird because there is another number that matters in addition to the apt 00:44:00 Lightli, it's *always* worth it to remove something without replacement 00:44:00 it would probably make players angry, which is nice 00:44:00 ??stealth[2] 00:44:00 stealth[2/7]: Base stealth is 3*dex + stealth*spf. spf is: Troll, Ogre, Centaur: 9; Minotaur, Draconian: 12; Halfling, Kobold, Spriggan, Felid, Naga, Octopode: 18; Vampire: 18-21; All others: 15. 00:44:00 elliptic: we should maybe change that 00:44:00 idk 00:44:00 stealth has got to be the most consistently overrated skill across crawl's history 00:44:00 i think i had a long argument about this at some point 00:44:00 for some reason 00:45:00 <|amethyst> also dodging 00:45:00 PleasingFungus: yeah, IMO it would be fine to just have spf be 15 or 18 or so for everyone 00:45:00 wow, and I didn't know dex influenced stealth that way 00:45:00 !tell hellmonk updated 00:45:00 |amethyst: well dodging at least just depends on size 00:45:00 chequers: OK, I'll let hellmonk know. 00:45:00 fr: reintroduce sunray, and make spf determine how much damage you take from it 00:45:00 lol 00:45:00 deep dwarves get negative spdf 00:46:00 forget how that one worked 00:46:00 ??sunray 00:46:00 sunray[1/1]: A {spriggan druid} spell. 3d16 damage at their unmodified HD. Vampires take *1.5 damage, invisibility makes you immune. Neither RMsl nor DMsl helps. In trunk no longer exists :) 00:46:00 spdf? it's spectroscopy now? 00:46:00 %git :/sunray 00:46:00 DO removed sunray iirc and did so in a way that broke save compat 00:46:00 i forgot how to type. 00:47:00 chei fell out of the channel at some point 00:47:00 invisivility makes you immune to sunray... cute 00:47:00 %git :/Sunray 00:47:00 I don't know why I'm saying that, other than to point out that's all I remember about it 00:47:00 <|amethyst> eep 00:47:00 <|amethyst> an hour without logs 00:47:00 sunray ignoring rmsl and checking invis was so crazy 00:47:00 |amethyst: i was wondering about that 00:47:00 chequers: meanwhile, sunlight negates invisibility 00:47:00 what we could have said... 00:48:00 -!- Cheibriados [~Cheibriad@45.58.116.34] has joined ##crawl-dev 00:48:00 just want to know the version it was removed 00:48:00 !gitgrep 2 [Ss]unray 00:48:00 %git HEAD^{/[Ss]unray}^^{/[Ss]unray} 00:48:00 %git d9a150bf776162d47ec42962d388573b7bd6eb18 00:48:00 !learn edit sunray[1] s/In trunk no/No 00:48:00 sunray[1/1]: A {spriggan druid} spell. 3d16 damage at their unmodified HD. Vampires take *1.5 damage, invisibility makes you immune. Neither RMsl nor DMsl helps. No longer exists :) 00:48:00 oh, rip 00:48:00 can you give me the version, PF? 00:48:00 DracoOmega * 0.14-a0-3221-gd9a150b: Remove Sunray (2 years, 6 months ago, 16 files, 12+ 102-) https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d9a150bf7761 00:48:00 DracoOmega * 0.14-a0-3221-gd9a150b: Remove Sunray (2 years, 6 months ago, 16 files, 12+ 102-) https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d9a150bf7761 00:48:00 thanks 00:48:00 chei 00:49:00 0.14-a0-3221-gd9a150b 00:49:00 oh 00:49:00 %git 830ee6c5f22734a00511690753aa6f593e710457 00:49:00 gammafunk * 0.14-a0-3294-g830ee6c: Give spriggan druids stone arrow if they have sunray. (2 years, 6 months ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/830ee6c5f227 00:49:00 yeah that was the bug 00:49:00 ^ this is why you remember it, i assume 00:49:00 !learn edit sunray[1] s/No longer.*/Remove in 0.14./ 00:49:00 sunray[1/1]: A {spriggan druid} spell. 3d16 damage at their unmodified HD. Vampires take *1.5 damage, invisibility makes you immune. Neither RMsl nor DMsl helps. Remove in 0.14. 00:50:00 %git b1be29d7e246f134b5b5249b7e8955adc1a77741 00:50:00 <|amethyst> hm 00:50:00 <|amethyst> chei's server seems to be having network problems 00:50:00 also, it looks like elliptic removed the sunray/invis interaction in 2012 00:50:00 <|amethyst> 22 packets transmitted, 1 packets received, 95% packet loss 00:50:00 !learn edit sunray[1] s/Remove/Removed/ 00:50:00 sunray[1/1]: A {spriggan druid} spell. 3d16 damage at their unmodified HD. Vampires take *1.5 damage, invisibility makes you immune. Neither RMsl nor DMsl helps. Removed in 0.14. 00:50:00 ty 00:51:00 TODO: remove (in 0.14) 00:51:00 oh, since people are here, and i have a little time: did anyone see either of my HP display branches? 00:51:00 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/tree/avg_hp_extended https://github.com/crawl/crawl/tree/avg_hp_numeric 00:52:00 elliptic: so you're not sure if "large caster race" is going to be different from Dr to justify a species? I'm certainly open to suggestions 00:53:00 Tr and Og are already large caster races 00:53:00 -!- Cheibriados [~Cheibriad@45.58.116.34] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:53:00 They're not very good at doing that 00:53:00 PleasingFungus: option 1, i really like the comparison monster idea 00:55:00 -!- Guest42311 [justin@66.228.38.83] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:55:00 haha. tbh it seems very silly to me, i just included it because it seemed crawly 00:55:00 in the grand tradition of the choko 00:55:00 -!- devesine [justin@lambda.ziz.org] has joined ##crawl-dev 00:56:00 -!- muravey [~muravey@144.91.231.228] has joined ##crawl-dev 00:56:00 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: ooh, your unicode makes me think of a way to keep it linear while providing more resolution 00:57:00 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: U+2588 through U+258F https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Block_Elements 00:57:00 right, i was initially constraining myself to extended ascii 00:58:00 because i wasn't sure what we supported 00:58:00 please use emoji. PLEASE 00:58:00 <|amethyst> cp437? 00:58:00 except i guess this is unicode anyway 00:58:00 it was in extended ascii but that's not how we're rendering it... anyway 00:58:00 <|amethyst> might matter for old versions of Windows 00:58:00 chequers: i tried to make a version of crawl that used emoji for monster glyphs once 00:59:00 but it would've involved work, so i gave up. 00:59:00 range: 😎 😀 😐 ☹️ 😱 🙀 00:59:00 screaming cat is definitely antaeus level 00:59:00 lol 01:04:00 i have a cat meowing at my door almost every day these days 01:04:00 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 01:04:00 it's not my cat, it just comes to my door and meows every day 01:04:00 it wants to be your cat 01:04:00 i know 01:04:00 you know what to do. 01:04:00 but it's already someone else's cat 01:05:00 raise it as a child, teach it optimal DCSS technique, set it loose in manhattan? 01:07:00 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-1655-gdd95918 (34) 01:08:00 -!- PleasingFungus [~chatzilla@c-67-188-112-7.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 48.0.1/20160817112116]] 01:17:00 -!- Lightli [182f808f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.47.128.143] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:18:00 now I can continue merging those chei vaults 01:18:00 oh we lost Chei again 01:21:00 -!- kdrnic__ [~ClaudiusG@189.58.212.220.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined ##crawl-dev 01:22:00 -!- kdrnic_ [~ClaudiusG@186.213.140.24] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:23:00 -!- Cheibriados [~Cheibriad@45.58.116.34] has joined ##crawl-dev 01:24:00 <|amethyst> hm 01:24:00 -!- Cheibriados [~Cheibriad@45.58.116.34] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:24:00 <|amethyst> no one talk for a bit 01:29:54 -!- Cheibriados has joined ##crawl-dev 01:29:54 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: Crawl Development | Logs: http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/ | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general Crawl-related chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to a pastebin service, please. 01:29:55 -!- The topic of ##crawl is: Play Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup online now! Type ??servers for instructions. | http://crawl.develz.org | FooTV: http://termcast.develz.org - ??footv for instructions | See also ##crawl-offtopic 01:30:12 <|amethyst> okay, filled in the logs except for a few nick changes between 23:44 and 00:00 01:31:00 <|amethyst> though with fake seconds on the timestamp, since my IRC client is only set up to log hours and minutes 01:35:26 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 01:35:26 -!- kdrnic_ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:36:37 %git basajaun~1 01:36:38 07gammafunk02 * 0.19-a0-1656-gd470d59: Remove High Elves 10(4 hours ago, 29 files, 55+ 165-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d470d59c1e33 01:36:49 if we compare monsters by HP, imo let the player choose the unit of measure. i want to know that a death yak is about 2 sixfirhies 01:37:06 -!- kdrnic__ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:37:52 %git basajaun 01:37:53 07gammafunk02 * 0.19-a0-1657-g522dbc7: New species: Basajaunak 10(2 hours ago, 18 files, 127+ 14-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/522dbc7be4d5 01:40:09 -!- mong has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:43:38 -!- mong is now known as Guest19144 01:45:17 -!- kdrnic has joined ##crawl-dev 01:48:37 -!- kdrnic_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:49:39 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:50:34 -!- Zxpr1jk has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:50:57 -!- debo_ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:52:36 yeah I think the monster list could be tweaked -- don't show rune branch monsters or relatively rare monsters like skeletal warriors 01:54:52 is there a way to search !kws? 01:55:02 -!- debo_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:55:33 !cmd !kw 01:55:33 Built-in: !kw => https://github.com/crawl/sequell/blob/master/commands/keyworddef.rb 01:56:36 !kw u.* 01:56:36 No keyword 'u.*' 01:56:38 !kw u* 01:56:39 No keyword 'u*' 01:56:41 !kw -ls u* 01:56:42 User keywords: --he, abyssrun, adventurer, agilediesel, agileoctane, alive, alive_all, all, allcaps, alldam, allt, ancestor, ancestor.class, annihilated, arenasprint, atheist, badchar, badform, banished, banishment, bat, bird, blacklist, blah, boggle, book, boring, brainless, branch.enter, buggygods, casualchar, cat, cehe, champion, clumsy, cobbed, collapse, color, colour, console, crate, crazy, c... 01:56:42 wow, !kw -ls. there's a feature that must have seemed like a better idea in verison 1.0 01:56:54 yeah. it cuts off at ~t in PM 01:56:55 ??userdef 01:56:55 userdef[1/1]: https://loom.shalott.org/userdef.html 01:57:01 is a good way to look at the kw 01:57:13 nice, thanks 01:57:20 there we go 01:57:23 !lg * uniques 01:57:28 730453. Csikos the Grave Robber (L4 HuNe), slain by Natasha on D:2 on 2016-09-20 05:55:51, with 84 points after 2059 turns and 0:05:34. 01:57:35 -!- Guest19144 is now known as mong 01:57:35 !kw uniques 01:57:36 Keyword: uniques => uniques1|uniques2|uniques3|uniques4 01:57:39 -!- mong has quit [Changing host] 01:57:42 hrm 01:57:46 !lg * ikiller=uniq 01:57:52 757136. Csikos the Grave Robber (L4 HuNe), slain by Natasha on D:2 on 2016-09-20 05:55:51, with 84 points after 2059 turns and 0:05:34. 01:57:52 !kw uniques1 cikiller=agnes|aizul|antaeus|arachne|asterion|azrael|bai_suzhen|blork_the_orc|boris|cerebov|crazy_yiuf|dissolution|donald|dowan|duvessa|edmund|the_enchantress|erica|erolcha|eustachio|fannar|frances|frederick|gastronok|gloorx_vloq|grinder|grum 01:57:53 Defined keyword: uniques1 => cikiller=agnes|aizul|antaeus|arachne|asterion|azrael|bai_suzhen|blork_the_orc|boris|cerebov|crazy_yiuf|dissolution|donald|dowan|duvessa|edmund|the_enchantress|erica|erolcha|eustachio|fannar|frances|frederick|gastronok|gloorx_vloq|grinder|grum 01:57:59 not sure why it doesn't just use that 01:58:04 oh, nice 01:58:10 is that a sequell feature? 01:58:11 cikiller=uniq ; maybe those can be diff 01:58:17 yeah I think it's in !lg 01:58:21 it might include e.g. pan lords 01:58:28 !lg * cikiller=uniq month s=killer 01:58:29 No games for * (cikiller=uniq month). 01:58:31 !lg * ikiller=uniq !uniques 01:58:36 27110. RustyCombat the Skirmisher (L5 GhCK of Xom), blasted by a smoke demon (divine providence) (summoned by Xom) on D:5 on 2016-09-20 04:57:06, with 153 points after 1775 turns and 0:14:28. 01:58:47 weird... 01:58:55 !lg * month uniques s=killer 01:58:56 17378 games for * (month uniques): 2782x Sigmund, 1677x Grinder, 1580x Natasha, 939x Crazy Yiuf, 843x a goblin, 691x Terence, 669x Pikel, 618x Menkaure, 604x Ijyb, 486x Duvessa, 418x Robin, 366x a hobgoblin, 343x Jessica, 337x Prince Ribbit, 337x Joseph, 330x Edmund, 300x Snorg, 281x a slave, 271x a white imp, 259x Dowan, 257x Gastronok, 236x Erica, 170x Rupert, 156x a shadow imp, 151x Erolcha, 11... 01:59:07 !kw tier3 01:59:07 Keyword: tier3 => killer=sun_emon|smoke_demon|soul_eater|neqoxec|chaos_spawn|ynoxinul 01:59:11 !lg * month uniques s=killer killer=bai_suzhen 01:59:12 17 games for * (month uniques killer=bai_suzhen): 17x Bai Suzhen 01:59:12 !lg * ikiller=uniq current trunk !uniques s=cikiller 01:59:20 a truly useful kw 01:59:21 1352 games for * (ikiller=uniq current trunk !uniques): 785x Blork, 459x Xom, 37x Lugonu's corruption, 9x Cigotuvi's Monster, 8x Asmodeus, 6x Ereshkigal, 5x Geryon, 3x Dispater, 3x Cloud Mage, Dav Okhla, Semoyseh, an orc warlord, an orc knight, Utesefuso, Xuni, Jyiqyepa, Xorhogim, Maosid, Matsua Ohum, Jegg, Ucrorhed, Xubuacyp, Imyrex, Sucanot, Ripliawet, Qeqeiwn, Kauch, Nyaziyf, Odafe, Guok, Apoun... 01:59:35 didn't sexfurry get boosted to tier 3 recently 01:59:44 !lg * cikiller=Blork 01:59:45 16754. magenar the Magician (L7 VSTm), slain by Blork the orc (a +0 dire flail of holy wrath) (kmap: sword_in_stone) on D:5 on 2016-09-20 03:51:05, with 629 points after 4559 turns and 0:24:08. 01:59:49 that is one of the many reasons !kw tier3 is dumb 02:00:00 sorry, how is it dumb? 02:00:01 -!- bbigras has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.5] 02:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:00:25 because nobody will ever update it when monsters move around 02:00:27 !lg * xxxx 02:00:27 No games for * (xxxx). 02:00:41 that's not a very good reason 02:00:41 also it lacks sun_demon, preferring instead sun_emon 02:00:52 and neither is that, that's simply a typo 02:01:05 like the wiki, a collection of kws that are slightly out of date is better than no kws 02:01:09 like, the fact that it has been broken for probably a quite long time suggests disuse 02:01:10 remove all kw that have ever had a typo in them, I say 02:01:25 amalloy I made those kw like a couple months ago 02:01:26 or that it has been actively unhelpful, to anyone who actually used it without knowing it is broken 02:01:30 really? why? 02:01:40 like to comare monster deadliness i assume 02:01:42 why wouldn't you? 02:02:01 !kw small 02:02:02 Keyword: small => (sp|fe--|ha|ko) 02:02:02 sounds like you're claiming that doing queries by ikiller is dumb 02:02:18 i think there are a lot of non-always-useful kws that are sometimes useful 02:02:21 right 02:02:27 -!- chan20 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:02:45 I made that small kw 02:02:52 it's super useful innit 02:03:35 ??3 02:03:36 3[1/1]: The tier 3 demons. They are: {sun demon}, {smoke demon}, {soul eater}, {neqoxec}, {chaos spawn}, {ynoxinul}. 02:03:42 also a dumb entry we need to remove I guess 02:03:45 gammafunk: also it wasn't by ikiller 02:03:57 !kw itier3 02:03:57 Keyword: itier3 => ikiller=sun_emon|smoke_demon|soul_eater|neqoxec|chaos_spawn|ynoxinul 02:04:02 (not a reason it's dumb, but you said ikiller) 02:04:07 you don't always want to query by ikiller 02:04:09 oh yeah 02:04:25 but anyhow you seem to be claiming that people don't query by groups of monsters, which they do 02:04:40 anyway its existince is not really doing any harm I think 02:04:44 well, i think manually-curated lists of things that can change (eg, demon tiers) rot quickly and without anyone noticing 02:05:01 the entire learndb and kw system is basically 02:05:04 better if it was automated, for sure 02:05:08 a a manually-curated list of things that can change 02:05:16 yeah sure, that'd be great 02:05:40 okay, calling it dumb was hasty and reckless 02:06:11 some of it is because any kw i have never seen used is one that i infer very few people know about, which means it doesn't get maintenance 02:06:39 yeah i just had to add bai suzhen to uniques f.e. 02:06:47 !lg * killer=bai_suzhen_dragon 02:06:47 No games for * (killer=bai_suzhen_dragon). 02:06:48 (you can't really accidentally discover a kw like you can discover a learndb entry by searching) 02:07:07 well you can, that url has a list of them 02:07:10 hm, do morgues distinguish bai suzhen form? 02:07:22 no i agree with amalloy, that url is only useful if you know what you're looking for 02:07:42 well, he's not even saying that I believe 02:07:48 he's saying there's not irc search interface 02:07:51 which may be true 02:07:54 yeah i'm not saying that 02:08:03 if i knew about that url, and wanted to look up tier 3 demons, i would search for like sun_demon, and probably find it 02:08:09 (although not in that particular case, har har) 02:08:20 ??3 02:08:20 3[1/1]: The tier 3 demons. They are: {sun demon}, {smoke demon}, {soul eater}, {neqoxec}, {chaos spawn}, {ynoxinul}. 02:08:29 -!- namad7 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:08:30 aren't sixfurries in that now 02:08:36 ?/sixfur 02:08:37 No matches. 02:08:42 ?/sixf 02:08:42 Matching terms (1): sixfirhy; entries (8): 4[1] | af_elec[1] | common_demon[1] | demonic_guardian[2] | jiangshi[1] | kobold_demonologist[1] | obsidian_statue[1] | trivia[20] 02:08:46 @??sixfirhy 02:08:46 sixfirhy (123) | Spd: 40 (move: 60%) | HD: 9 | HP: 33-47 | AC/EV: 2/20 | Dam: 1511(elec:9-12) | 05demonic, 10doors, evil | Res: 06magic(60), 11elec+++, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 772 | Sz: little | Int: human. 02:08:56 ??trivia[20 02:08:56 trivia[20/34]: blue devils, iron devils, and rotting devils are smarter than orange demons, red devils, sixfirhies, and hellwings 02:09:02 god 02:09:04 -!- NotKintak has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:09:19 if you want to make a patch to remove the concept of demon tiers, you might be doing us all a favor 02:09:27 I think that's probably the issue more than anything 02:09:37 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: Reality is an illusion, the universe is a hologram, buy gold, BYE] 02:09:57 -!- Netmonmatt has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:10:00 -!- Yen is now known as Netmonmatt 02:10:03 but the glyph deforestation! if we couldn't put them on numbers, we'd run out of glyphs! 02:10:12 I got tired of typing sun_demon|... a bunch of times when doing queries about demon tiers 02:10:44 time to break out the unicode or emjoi for demons, I guess 02:10:57 clearly we need to be able to get killers by glyph 02:10:57 -!- muravey has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 02:10:57 do demon tiers mean anything but the console glyph? 02:11:04 they're supposed to be a grouping by difficulty as well 02:11:17 but is that symbolised by anything but the glyph? 02:11:26 gservant 02:11:27 used to be shown on the tile 02:11:29 in tiles, there's not even that any more, so it's purely a console construction 02:11:41 yeah various summons use those groupings as a concept 02:11:44 spells, god abilities 02:12:06 is 02:12:09 ??trivia[9 02:12:09 trivia[9/34]: 1/7th of all angels in the abyss are worshippers of Xom. 02:12:11 sgd summons a 2 or a 1, gservant summons a 2 or an exec 02:12:12 still true? 02:12:28 I think that can still happen? 02:12:31 and if so, does this mean zin approve of killing them? 02:12:36 *approves 02:12:52 @??hell beast 02:12:52 hell beast (072) | Spd: 15 | HD: 7 | HP: 71-99 | AC/EV: 5/14 | Dam: 28, 2007(trample) | 05demonic, 10doors, fighter, evil | Res: 06magic(20), 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 971 | Sz: Large | Int: human. 02:13:14 ??2 02:13:14 2[1/1]: The tier 2 demons. Summoned, along with {1}s, by {Summon Greater Demon}. They are: {balrug}, {blizzard demon}, {shadow demon}, {cacodemon}, {green death}, {hell beast}, {hellion}, {lorocyproca}, {reaper}, {tormentor}. 02:13:21 !learn edit 3 s/\./, {sixfirhy}./ 02:13:22 3[1/1]: The tier 3 demons, {sixfirhy}. They are: {sun demon}, {smoke demon}, {soul eater}, {neqoxec}, {chaos spawn}, {ynoxinul}. 02:13:28 damn you 02:13:41 hm, i always thought cacodemon was a 1 02:13:51 i guess that shows i just really hate malmutate 02:14:00 @??soul eater 02:14:00 soul eater (063) | Spd: 10 | HD: 11 | HP: 51-70 | AC/EV: 18/10 | Dam: 2513(drain) | 05demonic, 10doors, evil, see invisible, fly | Res: 06magic(140), 02cold, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 809 | Sp: drain life [06!sil] | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 02:14:05 didn't one go to 4? 02:14:12 @??chaos spawn 02:14:12 chaos spawn (004) | Spd: 10 | HD: 6 | HP: 28-39 | AC/EV: 7/12 | Dam: 1909(chaos) | 05demonic, 10doors, evil, see invisible | Res: 06magic(60), 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++, 11silver | XP: 182 | Sz: Big | Int: animal. 02:14:14 yeah 02:14:15 ice demon? 02:14:21 -!- kdrnic_ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:14:25 no chaos s. 02:14:30 @??ice devil 02:14:30 ice devil (004) | Spd: 10 | HD: 8 | HP: 33-52 | AC/EV: 12/10 | Dam: 1612(cold:8-23) | 05demonic, 10doors, evil | Res: 06magic(80), 12cold+++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 04fire, 08holy++ | XP: 340 | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 02:14:36 those did but 3 is up to date there 02:14:44 !learn set 3[1] The tier 3 demons. They are: {sun demon}, {smoke demon}, {soul eater}, {neqoxec}, {ynoxinul}, {sixfirhy}. 02:14:45 3[1/1]: The tier 3 demons. They are: {sun demon}, {smoke demon}, {soul eater}, {neqoxec}, {ynoxinul}, {sixfirhy}. 02:14:48 ??4 02:14:48 4[1/1]: The tier 4 demons. They are: {red devil}, {rust devil}, {ice devil}, {hellwing}, {orange demon}, {sixfirhy}. 02:15:21 !learn edit 4 s/, {sixfirhy}/, {chaos spawn}/ 02:15:21 4[1/1]: The tier 4 demons. They are: {red devil}, {rust devil}, {ice devil}, {hellwing}, {orange demon}, {chaos spawn}. 02:15:28 !lm * xxxx 02:15:29 No milestones for * (xxxx). 02:15:38 !kw -rm xxxx 02:15:39 Deleted keyword: xxxx => char=XXXX 02:15:51 !kw 3 02:15:52 Built-in: 3 => 3 02:16:05 !kw tier3 02:16:05 Keyword: tier3 => killer=sun_emon|smoke_demon|soul_eater|neqoxec|chaos_spawn|ynoxinul 02:16:23 !kw tier3 killer=sun_demon|smoke_demon|soul_eater|neqoxec|ynoxinul|sixfirhy 02:16:24 Defined keyword: tier3 => killer=sun_demon|smoke_demon|soul_eater|neqoxec|ynoxinul|sixfirhy 02:16:33 let me do this in -sequell 02:17:25 -!- kdrnic has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:19:14 @??obsidian statue 02:19:14 obsidian statue (068) | Spd: 10 (07stationary) | HD: 10 | HP: 56-82 | AC/EV: 12/1 | 11non-living, evil, see invisible, unbreathing | Res: 13magic(immune), 05fire++, 02cold++, 10elec, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy | XP: 671 | Sp: sum.minor demon [06!sil], sum.demon [06!sil], mesmerise [06!sil] | Sz: Large | Int: human. 02:19:18 ??summon demon 02:19:18 summon demon[1/1]: Summons one {common demon}, which may or may not be friendly. L5, found in the Book of Summonings. 4/power chance of hostile. 02:19:23 ??common demon 02:19:23 common demon[1/1]: A {3} or {4}. Ranges from sixfirhy to soul eater. 02:19:30 heh 02:19:53 !lg * current ikiller=orc_high_priest 02:19:54 801. CndrllInCrmsn the Fencer (L15 DsBe of Trog), slain by an orc high priest (a +2 glaive of pain) on Orc:2 (pf_orc_diabolical) on 2016-09-20 04:19:56, with 74495 points after 24098 turns and 1:20:14. 02:20:09 !lg * current ikiller=orc_high_priest tier4|tier3 02:20:10 549. Dracklore the Carver (L14 HuFi of Okawaru), slain by a sun demon (summoned by an orc high priest) on Elf:1 (roderic_lattice_octagonal_star) on 2016-09-19 21:32:09, with 45151 points after 16743 turns and 1:11:12. 02:20:23 !lg * current ikiller=orc_high_priest tier4|tier3 / tier3 02:20:25 415/549 games for * (current ikiller=orc_high_priest ((tier4 || tier3))): N=415/549 (75.59%) 02:20:38 now you see how powerful I have become, amalloy 02:21:28 but what about players killed by the 5s summoned by 3s? 02:21:40 needs a kpath equivalent 02:22:02 !lg * current ikiller=orc_high_priest tier4|tier3 s=kpath 02:22:03 549 games for * (current ikiller=orc_high_priest ((tier4 || tier3))): 545x summoned by an orc high priest, 4x summoned by an orc sorcerer:led by an orc high priest 02:22:23 seems like kpath doesn't give that level of detail actually 02:22:33 maybe it does and there just are none 02:22:41 ??4 02:22:41 4[1/1]: The tier 4 demons. They are: {red devil}, {rust devil}, {ice devil}, {hellwing}, {orange demon}, {chaos spawn}. 02:22:57 !lg * current ikiller=orc_high_priest kpath~~ynox s=kpath 02:22:58 3 games for * (current ikiller=orc_high_priest kpath~~ynox): 3x summoned by a ynoxinul:summoned by an orc high priest 02:23:20 it does, but your ikiller excluded it 02:23:23 hrm 02:23:25 why... 02:23:28 or no, your tier4|tier3 did 02:23:34 because it was a tier5 02:23:38 ah 02:23:45 aha! 02:23:49 but behold...wait no 02:23:55 ikiller is still the high orc priest 02:24:09 right, that's why i found it 02:24:37 I could make a kpathtier3 though 02:24:40 that would show you 02:24:43 show you real good 02:25:09 yeah, i said it needs a kpath variant. and ckiller and cikiller 02:25:15 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:25:18 a neverending task! 02:25:58 I guess c-fields could technically be relevant through xom 02:26:03 but otherwise demons can't poly 02:26:05 -!- kdrnic has joined ##crawl-dev 02:26:31 !lg * killer=ynoxinul ckiller!=ynoxinul 02:26:31 No games for * (killer=ynoxinul ckiller!=ynoxinul). 02:29:31 -!- hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:29:36 -!- kdrnic_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:30:28 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 02:32:02 -!- Lasty has quit [Client Quit] 02:32:58 what was the command to find the code and file? 02:33:20 I have seen PleasingFungus use it but don't remember. 02:33:42 you mean !source? 02:33:53 or do you just need the url to the source? 02:33:56 ??source 02:33:56 source[1/4]: Browse the Git repository at https://github.com/crawl/crawl or http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git 02:34:11 got it - thanks 02:34:13 yea 02:34:31 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:36:29 -!- airwolf has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:38:05 -!- kdrnic_ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:38:13 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 02:38:27 -!- protopulse has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:39:33 -!- jason55 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:41:22 -!- kdrnic has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:42:24 -!- Pekkekk has quit [] 02:43:06 -!- mong has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:48:05 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. 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Type ??servers for instructions. | http://crawl.develz.org | FooTV: http://termcast.develz.org - ??footv for instructions | See also ##crawl-offtopic 05:41:06 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:44:52 -!- Yermak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:58:33 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 05:58:43 -!- cait_ is now known as cait 06:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:00:36 -!- jeefus has joined ##crawl-dev 06:04:12 -!- jefus has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:26:30 -!- Zxpr1jk has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:26:49 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 06:29:53 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:33:14 -!- DDFi has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:42:29 -!- TMTurtle has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:50:33 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 07:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:02:40 -!- Doctell has joined ##crawl-dev 07:05:38 -!- ontoclasm1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 07:09:07 <|amethyst> hm, not sure how 10688 would happen, since we call _identify well before decrementing the scroll quantity 07:09:18 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 07:09:57 <|amethyst> unless it picked an already identified item to ID 07:12:28 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 07:16:05 <|amethyst> (or the scroll was unidentified, but it doesn't sound like it) 07:26:19 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 07:28:48 -!- xnavy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:38:45 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:39:33 -!- cait_m has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:58:52 -!- Pacra_ has joined ##crawl-dev 07:59:13 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:10:31 -!- Tiltorax has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:20:37 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:20:57 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 08:35:30 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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