00:00:03 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 00:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:01:17 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 00:05:20 Brannock: hit me 00:05:29 in a sec, I think I figured out my problem 00:07:30 okay cool I fixed it, basically I started working on this earlier tonight, my attention went away and when I came back, I used a different attempt to refactor, and was running into loads of conflicts by refactoring in two different ways 00:08:25 this will still need review though since I'm sure I hacked this together 00:08:49 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.19-a0-1608-g4cf22de (34) 00:10:04 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-1608-g4cf22de (34) 00:12:29 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 00:14:40 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:16:00 weird, now acidic bites are applying double acid 00:16:14 make it quad acid, imo 00:16:15 <_< 00:16:23 quad damage!! 00:16:59 New branch created: punk-rework (3 commits) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/tree/punk-rework 00:16:59 03Brannock02 07[punk-rework] * 0.19-a0-1609-gce8c8c3: Enable Acid weapon brand 10(3 days ago, 5 files, 23+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ce8c8c31e99a 00:16:59 03Brannock02 07[punk-rework] * 0.19-a0-1610-gb3e3175: Slimify Punk (hellmonk) 10(3 days ago, 5 files, 8+ 7-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b3e3175eb58c 00:16:59 03Brannock02 07[punk-rework] * 0.19-a0-1611-g369dee8: Refactor acid brand behavior 10(2 hours ago, 5 files, 13+ 17-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/369dee8c94f9 00:17:04 okay, pushing my branch to see if someone can spot why it's doubledipping 00:17:10 the 3rd commit is the one 00:19:11 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 00:21:14 man, why does hellmonk get credit 00:21:30 he suggested it? 00:21:32 the original idea was passed along to me from PF crediting hellmonk 00:21:38 oh I see, that's for the original idea 00:21:39 there's a gdd thread somewhere 00:22:09 also, it looks like you didn't change the aux attack code, Brannock 00:22:19 so it'll still get bonus damage on top of the acid splash? 00:22:24 i forget if that code has a print 00:22:37 line 1105 has the bonus damage removed 00:22:43 unelss there's another check somewhere else 00:22:50 in melee-attack.cc:1105 I mean 00:24:00 oh, true 00:24:03 i'm blind 00:24:10 melee-attack.cc:1343 also has a splash_with_acid call 00:24:24 but that should be called only once 00:26:47 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:28:41 !source apply_damage_brand 00:28:42 1/2. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/attack.cc#L1563 00:29:05 this is the culprit I think 00:29:20 typical... 00:29:45 aux attacks call the acid splash, then damage brand checks if the player has a SPWPN then applies it too 00:29:53 this explains why Punk doesn't trigger it twice 00:29:54 but bites do 00:31:35 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.19-a0-1608-g4cf22de (34) 00:34:23 sounds like you should remove the aux attack splash, then 00:34:30 splish 00:34:51 I tried that, and it apparently disabled the bonus effect entirely 00:35:01 what 00:35:13 yeah I'm confused too 00:36:16 rip 00:36:18 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 48.0.1/20160817112116]] 00:37:22 -!- Rast has joined ##crawl-dev 00:38:49 /acid and Punk don't double-dip, it's just melee attacks only, but I can't figure out where the heck it's double dipping 00:39:11 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 00:40:40 -!- protopulse has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:41:38 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 00:43:40 we have a consider_decapitation and attack_chops_heads, both of which seem to check whether the attack chops off a head 00:44:14 <|amethyst> the former calls the latter 00:44:21 ah, it does 00:44:26 I was looking at the latter and couldn't see a call for hte former 00:44:26 <|amethyst> the former actually decapitates 00:49:39 -!- adelrune has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:50:17 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 00:50:35 antimagic bite still works fine... it's just acidic bite that goes off twice. 00:51:17 what's the message log? 00:51:17 CanOfWorms: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 00:51:21 !!! 00:51:24 I'm so popluar 00:51:30 the death yak is splashed with acid!x2 00:51:44 what happens before that/ 00:51:46 *? 00:52:12 I'm tempted to say that defender->splash_with_acid(attacker, 3); doesn't make sense in attack.cc? 00:52:26 shouldn't the player be the attacker? 00:52:39 that calls splash_with_acid on the defender 00:52:47 which gets directed to monster.cc or player.cc depending on defender type 00:53:03 hmm 00:53:05 and passes along the attacker and a magic number to that function 00:53:12 anyway I actualy removed that entry from attack.cc just now 00:53:24 and it still double dips. 00:55:27 hmm 00:55:32 It's not biting twice 00:55:37 is it actually applying the acid damage twice, or just printing the text twice? 00:55:38 It just calls splash_with_acid twice 00:55:51 Let me see if monster yellow drac double dips too 00:56:54 nope, monsters are fine. what a sneaky bug this is 00:58:26 hmm 00:58:59 well you separated the actual message from splash_with_acid 00:59:01 oh 00:59:08 so there has to be a reason why the message is being printed twice 00:59:10 it's printing the message twice, not applying the damage twice 00:59:11 I see 00:59:11 yes 00:59:31 I put "splashed with acid" etc in the actual splash_with_acid function, but then it's laso printed agani in melee_attack.cc 00:59:38 what a blindingly obvious thing 00:59:43 yeah 00:59:51 I spent a hour on this!! 00:59:58 programming.txt 01:00:01 programming.txt 01:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:00:06 hahaha 01:00:11 high five 01:00:14 o/ 01:00:18 \o 01:00:29 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:00:35 excellent, bug fixed 01:00:37 time to push~ 01:02:47 03Brannock02 07* 0.19-a0-1609-gce8c8c3: Enable Acid weapon brand 10(3 days ago, 5 files, 23+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ce8c8c31e99a 01:02:47 03Brannock02 07* 0.19-a0-1610-gb3e3175: Slimify Punk (hellmonk) 10(3 days ago, 5 files, 8+ 7-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b3e3175eb58c 01:02:47 03Brannock02 07* 0.19-a0-1611-g7a729d4: Refactor acid brand behavior 10(3 hours ago, 5 files, 14+ 22-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7a729d47d399 01:03:26 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 01:04:09 :toot: 01:04:24 man slings need better tiles 01:04:36 -!- chan20 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:05:04 https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1SOZ5JFXXXXa2XpXXq6xXFXXX3/Tactical-font-b-Slingshot-b-font-with-font-b-Laser-b-font-Sight-and-Light.jpg 01:05:09 the latest in sling technology 01:05:48 I had one of these as a kid 01:05:53 good for hunting squirrels but not much else 01:06:17 the rubber doesn't let you get as high velocity as the traditional method does 01:06:49 did slings ever have giantslaying in early crawl, because that seems like a thing that could have existed 01:07:01 heh 01:07:05 let's find out 01:07:23 no hits for 'giant slaying' or 'giantslaying' 01:07:48 you'd have to check the crawl ancient repo as well 01:07:51 panlords could have orc slaying once upon at ime 01:08:14 https://github.com/crawl/crawl-ancient 01:08:20 pre-dcss 01:08:59 some of these randart names are excellent 01:09:02 Giant's Toothpick 01:09:16 also 'Gram', 'Grum', 'Grom', and 'Grim' 01:09:22 "This should help you through your 01:09:22 first few games, but Crawl is extremely (some would say excessively) complex 01:09:23 and cannot be adequately described in so short a document." 01:11:21 i've hit an obstacle in game development 01:11:29 Unarmed Combat is a special fighting skill. It allows your character to make a powerful attack 01:11:41 lies.txt 01:12:00 wasn't UC even worse back then 01:12:25 artists: roctavian has posted some sprite sheets in https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9951. is there a quick and easy way to unstitch them and turn them into separate tiles, or do I have to do that manually? 01:12:43 for some value of quick and easy, yes 01:12:51 the GIMP has guillotine 01:13:08 I use photoshop. Guillotine sounds like what I want though 01:13:09 i think it's called the same in photoshop but i don't remember 01:13:19 ah, it's slice in Photoshop 01:15:12 hmm, what do you two think of that Agnes tile? 01:15:22 I like it, but the hard-drawn lajatang could be troublesome 01:15:30 tukima's dance 01:15:42 we already have that with other uniques iirc 01:15:46 and possibly even some generic monsters? 01:15:49 a few, yeah 01:16:21 but yeah we probably want to not glue weapons to the actual monsters 01:16:59 oh, speaking of weapons and monsters, certain weapons cover up tengu faces/beaks. though tengu could use new tiles, I think 01:17:15 yes 01:20:10 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-1611-g7a729d4 (34) 01:22:36 We have yet to see a CanOfWorms...will he finally break down and learn to use git...??? 01:22:43 *CanOfWorms commit 01:22:46 I updated the mailmap. 01:22:49 dang 01:22:51 rip 01:23:00 %git --author=CanOfWorms 01:23:00 Could not find commit --author=CanOfWorms (git returned 129) 01:23:09 oh 01:23:14 %git :/mailmap 01:23:14 07amalloy02 * 0.19-a0-1594-ga5acd14: Add neofelis to credits/mailmap. Thanks 10(11 hours ago, 2 files, 2+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a5acd1427552 01:23:26 !gitgrep 2 mailmap 01:23:26 %git HEAD^{/mailmap}^^{/mailmap} 01:23:26 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.19-a0-1109-g16db51f: Fix CREDITS, mailmap 10(6 weeks ago, 2 files, 3+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/16db51f6c14b 01:23:31 !gitgrep 3 mailmap 01:23:32 %git HEAD^{/mailmap}^^{/mailmap}^^{/mailmap} 01:23:32 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.19-a0-1108-g1f77a52: Add adibis to mailmap & credits.txt 10(6 weeks ago, 2 files, 2+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1f77a522df7a 01:23:38 weird 01:23:44 where is this commit?! 01:23:48 %git :/Mailmap 01:23:48 07CanOfWorms02 {GitHub} * 0.19-a0-1595-g9c60e2a: Mailmap address update 10(11 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9c60e2afd1cb 01:23:50 wow 01:23:53 haha 01:23:53 ah, case 01:24:02 powerful tech... 01:24:10 hrm 01:24:14 very od 01:24:16 d 01:24:22 that author did not work 01:24:37 %git --author=canofworms 01:24:37 07CanOfWorms02 {GitHub} * 9c60e2afd1cb: Mailmap address update 10(11 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9c60e2afd1cb 01:24:44 I guess the username doesn't use caps 01:25:19 ... 01:25:41 I guess that's not a big deal 01:25:50 but you might want to make the case of your github name match the case there 01:26:32 hmm 01:26:44 it's not a big deal, just surprising that they're diff 01:26:49 %git --author=CanOfWorms 01:26:49 Could not find commit --author=CanOfWorms (git returned 129) 01:26:54 I'm surprised too 01:26:56 %git --author=canofworms 01:26:56 07CanOfWorms02 {GitHub} * 9c60e2afd1cb: Mailmap address update 10(11 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9c60e2afd1cb 01:26:59 it's all lower-case 01:27:16 you may be able to modify that in github settings 01:27:25 I can't seem to modify the username itself 01:27:50 under public profile? 01:27:55 Name field 01:27:59 yeah I changed that 01:28:05 that's what I was testing earlier 01:28:07 ah, still lower case? 01:28:13 %git --author=CanOfWorms 01:28:14 Could not find commit --author=CanOfWorms (git returned 129) 01:28:21 name field seems to be for real names 01:28:21 oh, you can't do that 01:28:33 %git --author=Brannock 01:28:34 Could not find commit --author=Brannock (git returned 129) 01:28:37 %git --author=brannock 01:28:38 Could not find commit --author=brannock (git returned 129) 01:28:38 you have to use mailmap to look by author=CanOfWorms 01:28:43 I'm isloat on github 01:28:44 which you can't use with %git 01:28:48 but if you look locally 01:28:51 yeah I was testing that 01:28:56 git log --use-mailmap --author=CanOfWorms 01:29:15 %git log --use-mailmap --author=CanOfWorms 01:29:15 Could not find commit log --use-mailmap --author=CanOfWorms (git returned 128) 01:29:26 yeah you can't do that with %git 01:29:28 only locally 01:29:31 <|amethyst> %git only takes one argument :) 01:29:31 Could not find commit only takes one argument :) (git returned 128) 01:29:32 ah I see 01:29:40 <|amethyst> thanks chei 01:29:46 <|amethyst> superb work 01:29:50 %git I like to take it easy 01:29:50 Could not find commit I like to take it easy (git returned 128) 01:31:11 -!- AltReality has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:31:15 "Food: This is extremely important." 01:34:21 does crawl support partial transparency? 01:34:32 yeah 01:34:39 roctavian's new brimstone fiend tile has a few translucent pixels 01:34:54 water tiles use an overlay when you're standing in it 01:35:08 another tile that uses that, shining eyes 01:35:13 and the ally haloes have transparency 01:38:25 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 01:38:26 The build passed. (punk-rework - 369dee8 #6711 : Isaac Sloat): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/160613955 01:38:26 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 01:38:47 whew 01:40:42 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 01:41:06 fr: travis the crawl god 01:41:36 You die... 01:41:36 Save macros? 01:41:42 _Travis says: "The build failed." 01:41:47 n-no 01:42:09 -!- kdrnic has joined ##crawl-dev 01:45:13 -!- mibe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:47:42 time to go on a journey testing this new executioner tile, there were some concerns it wouldn't be as noticeable against darker backgrounds 01:47:46 against pure black it stood out to me 01:47:53 ho hum, compiling on a Friday evening... 01:52:09 increased contrast absolves many sins 01:52:22 it stands out pretty well to me 01:52:29 tested in tartarus, dis, dungeon, depths... 01:52:33 anywhere else I should compare it against? 01:52:53 i always try ice caves 01:53:00 or shoals 01:53:05 for the other end of the spectrum 01:53:44 still pretty solid 01:53:58 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:55:34 03Brannock02 07* 0.19-a0-1612-g27efa54: New demon tiles (roctavian) 10(10 minutes ago, 10 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/27efa5475a96 01:55:34 03Brannock02 07* 0.19-a0-1613-g7c9bbd0: Improved undead tiles (roctavian) 10(9 minutes ago, 6 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7c9bbd012c65 01:58:27 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-1611-g7a729d4 02:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:03:26 Brannock: those tiles shouldn't go to unused, but rather should be removed 02:03:34 oh, oops 02:04:01 what is unused meant to be for then? 02:04:13 we're trying to phase out that directory; interesting tiles can go to the crawl-tiles repo 02:04:33 sorry, that's crawl/tiles 02:05:04 upgrades can simply be upgraded, but if a monster is removed and its unique tile is to be removed, you can put it in the crawl/tiles repo 02:05:45 we basically need to move all that UNUSED tiles to that repo, it's just a bunch of work 02:05:56 I'll put that on my todo 02:07:29 hey, some stuff to remove from my secret tile list 02:07:33 good 02:08:15 @ 02:08:19 s/@/!/ 02:08:37 ontoclasm, what method do you use to determine where to place weapon offsets? 02:08:41 or just trial-and-error? 02:09:20 i overlay a monster with a (0, 0) offset to compare 02:09:26 e.g. a vault guard 02:09:57 and then i check in game and adjust if needed 02:10:03 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-1613-g7c9bbd0 (34) 02:10:27 usually i spawn one with a spear and one with a greatsword and see if they look passable 02:11:06 god, even the tiles rep duplicated UNUSED 02:11:09 *repo 02:12:43 -!- DeloreanTremens has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:12:51 How do I spawn a spear-wielding Donald? 02:14:00 -!- kdrnic_ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:17:27 -!- kdrnic has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:19:06 I think it's 02:19:06 donald ; spear 02:19:10 from &m 02:19:16 -!- bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:19:17 -!- eki has quit [Quit: leaving] 02:19:26 -!- Pekkekk has quit [] 02:19:31 it's a mons spec 02:19:33 ??mons_spec 02:19:34 I don't have a page labeled mons_spec in my learndb. 02:19:37 ?/spec 02:19:38 Matching terms (14): imp_species, inspector071, salamander_species, silent_spectre, special_room, species, species_difficulty, species_mr, species_mr_bonus, spectral, spectral_hydra, spectral_thing, spectral_warrior, spectral_weapon; entries (219): !help:!armourdodgepenalty[1] | !help:!currentwins[1] | !help:!dodgebonus[1] | !help:!ev[1] | !help:!firstgameafter[1] | !help:!greatprogress[1] | !help... 02:19:52 basically same syntax described in the des syntax guide 02:19:56 if you want to do something elaborate 02:19:58 -!- Brannock_ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:20:26 Brannock_: gave you answer, not sure if you saw 02:20:48 you know about the crawl-dev channel archives? 02:20:56 yeah, was looking there actually 02:20:57 that's something that should be in the intro doc 02:21:01 oh, good 02:22:23 -!- Brannock has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:23:38 of course if you specify equipment for him, he doesn't get his default equipment. so no donald shield 02:24:17 -!- Brannock_ is now known as Brannock 02:26:53 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:27:14 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 02:27:57 -!- Pacra_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:29:22 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: magistern] 02:30:01 -!- Cimanyd has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:30:53 yeah, I think you can use the good_item etc specifiers, but I don't think there's a way to have it do what mon-gear would 02:31:37 I suppose some des support for doing something like giving a spear and default for other items would be good 02:35:54 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:36:50 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 02:41:31 -!- kdrnic_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:43:04 "why isn't this offset working??" 02:43:11 "oh, there's two entries for Humans for some reason" 02:54:05 !apt xp 02:54:06 Could not understand "xp" 02:54:09 !apt exp 02:54:09 Exp: Ha: 1!, Fo: 1!, Hu: 1!, Ko: 1!, HO: 0, Te: 0, VS: 0, Gh: 0, Na: 0, Op: 0, Gr: 0, Og: 0, Mf: 0, Mi: -1, Dr: -1, Mu: -1, DD: -1, DE: -1, HE: -1, Tr: -1, Ds: -1, Sp: -1, Vp: -1, Ce: -1, Fe: -1, Dg: -2* 02:54:16 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-1613-g7c9bbd0 02:54:21 how are abomination tile variety handled? 02:54:45 in which sense? 02:55:08 tile is added, the dc-mon.txt file indicates how many variants there are 02:55:13 *tiles are added 02:55:31 ah, that's what I wanted, thanks 02:55:47 I would git grep ABOMINATION_LARGE or w/e it is to see the actual tile code choosing the variant 02:59:53 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:02:28 -!- hpm_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:03:39 I think I'll call it a night after this latest batch 03:08:12 -!- aditya has joined ##crawl-dev 03:08:44 -!- Dracunos-m has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:14:47 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 03:22:21 as far as I can tell, _mon_mod and _mon_cycle affects tile variety, as well as tile_init_props, but I can't seem to get it to work for humans.. 03:22:30 -!- Dracunos7 has quit [Quit: Bye] 03:22:53 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 03:23:22 oh TVARY_MOD is hwat I want 03:23:24 got it! 03:31:09 03Brannock02 07* 0.19-a0-1614-g87db2e4: New Donald tile (roctavian) 10(79 minutes ago, 4 files, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/87db2e469a95 03:31:09 03Brannock02 07* 0.19-a0-1615-g1be274e: Fully remove unused tiles. 10(77 minutes ago, 8 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1be274e8a124 03:31:09 03Brannock02 07* 0.19-a0-1616-gfa05b1c: New troll tiles (roctavian) 10(73 minutes ago, 6 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/fa05b1c1dd9c 03:31:09 03Brannock02 07* 0.19-a0-1617-ge0d3d39: Improved animal tiles (roctavian) 10(38 minutes ago, 6 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e0d3d396c045 03:31:09 03Brannock02 07* 0.19-a0-1618-g886f814: New human tiles (roctavian) 10(78 seconds ago, 7 files, 12+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/886f8145ac01 03:34:04 That was more work than I thought it'd be 03:34:10 I feel like the world's slowest coder 03:34:49 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.19-a0-1613-g7c9bbd0 (34) 03:38:23 amalloy: oi - more videos with Rose please - it's fun when you talk with someone live 03:38:52 she's pretty busy the last few months 03:39:15 but she appreciates hearing compliments from the internet, so i will pass that along and maybe see what we can do 03:40:14 yup - also - I still don't understand how you can play shoals on console. It's so hard when terrain keeps changing. 03:40:48 suboptimally is how, i'm sure 03:41:01 shoals is just not very visually friendly either way 03:41:08 but better to be unsure about what's water than unsure about what's a monster, which is what happens when i play tiles 03:41:20 lol 03:41:39 I think shoals could stand to have brightness on its ground tiles tuned down a little.. I've mentioned it to ontoclasm recently 03:41:42 by the way - are you also going to the roguelike meetup thing in SF? 03:41:51 that's tomorrow. PleasingFungus is speaking there 03:41:59 or, well, today 03:42:18 i'm not, although as it happens i am flying to the bay area saturday for other reasons 03:42:56 I just moved to bay area a week ago so wasn't paying attention to what goes on here. By the time I saw it the ticket sales were done. 03:43:11 -!- aditya is now known as adibis 03:43:24 that happened to someone else in here iirc 03:43:51 adibis: i'm moving to the bay area at the end of the month 03:44:00 (which is why i'm flying up now) 03:44:23 ah - from? I was in San Diego for last ~5 years. San Diego is much better :-/ 03:44:29 santa monica 03:44:57 funny, i've been here for about five years too. before that i was in the bay area, so i'm going back "home" 03:45:01 so many west coasters 03:45:04 ah - I went to school in LA. I miss the 6-7 lane roads of socal here. 03:45:30 bay area has narrower roads and twice as much traffic as socal 03:47:10 who can be nostalgic about LA traffic? 03:47:26 !banish car culture 03:47:27 Brannock casts a spell. car is cast into culture! 03:47:33 hmm, works 03:48:07 -!- hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:48:40 amalloy: I am not. LA is bad too. I am thinking of getting a motorcycle but friends tell me I would be dead in a week in some accident. 03:48:58 i've been mostly cycling for the last few years 03:49:07 i couldn't do that in most of LA, but santa monica is pretty good 03:49:46 I need to eventually get out to the west coast where work prospects are better. the best employer in Wisconsin requires that you code in MUMPS 03:49:50 (FR: crawl-dev-offtopic) 03:50:06 i thought MUMPs was a myth...! 03:50:10 they are not. 03:51:08 * adibis notices that ##crawl-dev-offtopic has 0 users. 03:51:23 the occasional off-topic tangent is fine here, especially with such a small group of users 03:51:54 -!- Grivan has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:51:59 the +14 demon blade of Pragmatism {vamp, +Rage +Inv Int+5} vs the +3 double sword of Trog (weapon) {flame, +Fly rC+++ Str-4 Dex+6} 03:52:17 another FR gone unimplemented by the jaded crawl devteam 03:52:20 fsim 03:52:30 though eyeball test screams "former" 03:52:40 yeah, what's to fsim? first is way better 03:53:17 plus it's the pragmatic approach 03:54:15 chequers, you around? I think it's midday there in Australia 03:54:51 oh geez, nearly 6 pm 03:54:55 pacific ocean too big 03:55:06 okay once I am out of swamp I will go back to demonblade. 03:56:00 my Dr without rPois and a few swamp dragon hides I cannot wear is going to half health fighting every monster on swamp:4 with poison 03:57:06 adibis: don't stand in poison clouds. that's most of the poison damage in swamp 03:57:48 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:58:05 without flying my retreat is usually through them :( 04:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:00:08 !tell chequers why do you use binomial(5, 50) instead of ISPEC_GOOD_ITEM for your Mennas PR? 04:00:08 Brannock: OK, I'll let chequers know. 04:08:34 i'm watching qw play, and he makes better tactical decisions than most of the low-XL randos i see on CAO 04:09:03 !messages 04:09:04 (1/1) gammafunk said (1d 2h 45m 57s ago): Can you give wormsofcan and brannock wizmode access on cue? They joined the dev team 04:09:12 !watch qw 04:09:13 Watch qw at: http://crawl.akrasiac.org:8080/#watch-qw 04:09:13 !tell gammafunk on it 04:09:13 TZer0: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 04:09:15 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-1618-g886f814 (34) 04:09:54 plenty of dumb plays still, but i've seen him lure stuff back to corridors for example 04:10:18 !won qw 04:10:19 qw has won 89 times in 7048 games (1.26%): 23xGrBe 22xDDFi 7xMiFi 5xMiBe 4xDDBe 3xDDGl 2xNaBe 1xCeFi 1xDDAE 1xDDAM 1xDDAs 1xDDFE 1xDDHu 1xDDMo 1xDDSu 1xDDWn 1xDDWr 1xDrFi 1xDsBe 1xFoFi 1xGhFi 1xHOBe 1xHuBe 1xMfBe 1xMuFi 1xOgFi 1xTeBe 1xTrBe 1xVSBe 1xVpFi 04:10:33 amalloy: that is not low XL 04:10:45 89 wins 04:10:51 !tell Brannock Can you register a user on my server and let me know? underhound.eu:8080 04:10:51 TZer0: OK, I'll let brannock know. 04:10:56 XL is experience level, not winrate 04:11:30 TZer0, I should already have Brannock on CUE 04:11:30 Brannock: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 04:11:33 I thought you meant player XL as in a new player vs experienced. 04:11:34 that is, if i choose an XL8 character at random, played by a human, i expect them to be dead within a couple minutes 04:11:45 oh 04:11:48 wait is qx a bot? 04:11:48 It is case-sensitive 04:11:50 derp 04:11:52 Fixed. 04:11:54 :) 04:12:02 yes 04:12:20 wow 04:13:39 maybe not the best tactics against that thorn hunter, but having unlimited /hw fixes a lot of mistakes :P 04:13:54 heh 04:14:06 !lg * min=ac x=ac 04:14:11 6164920. [ac=-270] gw the Basher (L11 DDGl of Makhleb), blasted by an oklob plant (splash of acid) on Lair:1 (minmay_lair_oklob_tunnel) on 2014-09-14 17:13:08, with 11812 points after 10344 turns and 0:12:24. 04:14:28 i forget if gw is a fork of qw or totally unrelated. i think it's a fork 04:16:14 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:17:05 -!- Bammboo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:20:48 i guess qw is going to die soonish due to running out of maxMP to recharge with 04:26:59 great - sword of zonguldork on sale in bazar 04:27:05 I am 2K gold short. 04:27:41 you don't really need an upgrade for the rest of the game though 04:27:46 like i'd rather buy consumables 04:28:20 zong is probably weaker than what you have anyway 04:29:47 -!- MemeProof has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:31:52 -!- jonadab has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:35:05 -!- Yermak has joined ##crawl-dev 04:39:46 I'd like to declare my complete disagreement with the removal of cloud_status option. It is incredibly useful in Tiles too, not every combination of player doll/cloud tile is easily recognizable. I used to use 'x' command a lot in tiles to see if I'm standing in a cloud before I found this cloud_status option. 04:40:16 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:44:26 @??norris 04:44:26 unknown monster: "norris" 04:44:33 unknown monster: "norris" 04:44:33 %??norris 04:44:46 amalloy: okay 04:47:16 -!- chan20 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:50:41 amalloy: gw is basically unrelated, as far as I recall; grunt wrote it to try out some ideas 04:51:03 oh, brannock said he registered on cue 04:51:13 TZer0: you don't see a user Brannock on cue at all? 04:51:25 ??Chambers of Meffij 04:51:26 I don't have a page labeled Chambers_of_Meffij in my learndb. 04:51:27 we already resolved that 04:51:30 oh 04:51:33