00:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:11:51 -!- Nhorian has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:19:22 -!- wales has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:20:01 what are some possible reasons that crawl doesn't compile to completion? 00:20:28 as far as i can tell, i reverted all the changes i made 00:20:34 but when i try to make it shows https://gyazo.com/e4573ff067bc74aab99b3da51881b9ec 00:20:45 after it leaves the first directory it just doesnt do anything 00:21:58 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 00:26:19 it may be checking file modification times 00:26:32 -!- nicolae- has left ##crawl-dev 00:26:43 is there an issue it sees with those? 00:26:48 note that many virus checkers do not like the way cygwin/msys2 handles unix compatible fork(), and cause things to be very slow as a result 00:27:08 you may want to disable virus checking in the crawl source directory so it doesn't start scanning every file 00:27:21 okay 00:27:25 (and slowing the rest of the system down) 00:27:34 but even if its slow it should still execute to completion right? 00:27:40 mine seems to just stop abruptly 00:27:46 do you think thats antivirus as well? 00:28:18 the antivirus program can be triggering on every file access because it thinks make is a possible virus, because it uses fork() emulation 00:28:40 which it thinks looks like an evasion scheme to try to hide what it is doing 00:28:58 you can install process explorer and watch what files make is accessing 00:29:31 -!- DarkwingDuck has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:29:33 https://sysinternals.com (this will redirect to a microsoft tech note, since microsoft adopted the tools and the company that made them originally) 00:30:23 alright 00:30:26 it wont show if a virus checker is active, you'd have to use the antivirus's control panel to do that 00:30:39 ive already disabled avast for one hour 00:30:54 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.19-a0-1511-g16f215b (34) 00:31:08 hm 00:31:10 webpage not loading 00:31:27 this one work? 00:31:27 https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/processexplorer.aspx 00:35:01 hm, maybe they let it lapse finally :/ too many people know that page 00:35:04 anyway, yes 00:35:59 just ran it 00:36:07 saw make.exe on here going thru various files 00:36:18 what should i be watching out for in particular? 00:36:25 its still stopping at the same spot 00:36:39 -!- destrovel has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:40:44 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 00:42:13 -!- Kalir has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:43:46 that seems wrong, it should still be looking at files 00:43:59 hm. try: make TILES=y V=1 00:44:23 okay 00:45:24 same thing 00:45:58 i ran a make -d TILES=y and it seemed from what i gathered like it was compiling fine? 00:46:58 but whenever i try to open crawl.exe 00:47:06 wonder if that was the right option... sigh 00:47:08 it just closes very soon after startup 00:47:23 nicolae was having a similar issue earlier 00:47:27 but i think its fixed on his end now 00:47:30 that sounds like it's having problems loading a vault 00:47:42 no, V=1 was right for verbose build 00:47:53 so make should have reported what it ran that "stopped" 00:48:00 odd 00:48:34 https://gyazo.com/f135a7f357d565585945e1148b845e60 00:49:04 i was messing with the des folders earlier 00:49:04 -!- xnavy_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:49:04 i was worried that was the issue 00:49:12 so i replaced the des folder contents with the originals 00:51:14 vault problems causing a silent exit is a known interface wart on Windows; if a program enables graphics mode, it loses access to the console and can't report the error 00:51:37 i see 00:51:40 try building without "TILES=y" and it should report the vault error to the console 00:51:46 when you run it 00:51:48 ok 1 second 00:52:06 there were various attempts to work around that windows console gotcha, but they all had even worse failure modes 00:52:51 ah 00:55:08 o btw, would you happen to know where in the code is the +/-artefact 00:55:15 written? 00:55:21 armour in particular 00:55:53 + and -'s for artefacts 00:55:56 msg got cut off 00:57:44 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:57:44 no 00:58:35 kk 01:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:00:04 -!- zeia has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:02:33 make without the tiles=y flag seems to be running fine... 01:02:48 its still running but going around creating .o files right now 01:03:07 so i guess the key is to run the make function first, then rerun with the tiles=y flag after? 01:03:27 protopulse_: you could just leave it in console 01:03:40 ? 01:03:46 since what you're testing is not tiles-related and you seem to be having trouble building tiles 01:03:53 just build console and test in that 01:03:54 -!- kdrnic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:04:04 im not too familiar with the interface 01:04:07 for debugging purpose 01:04:29 -!- robotcentaur has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:04:29 but yea, i suppose thats an option if tiles is giving me issues 01:04:47 honestly never played on console before 01:13:40 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 01:18:02 -!- Harudoku has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:19:58 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-1511-g16f215b (34) 01:27:12 it's harder, but can be useful when debugging 01:27:17 especially because the window takes up less space 01:27:26 -!- scotchmint has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:27:55 that's a good point 01:28:05 i know some old school players prefer console anyways 01:31:40 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:32:11 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 01:33:15 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:33:22 -!- jfunk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:34:08 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 01:36:34 -!- blejac99 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:56:25 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-1511-g16f215b 01:56:51 -!- protopulse_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:58:59 -!- Cimanyd has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:01:16 -!- jehoesefat has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:17:41 harder? console is easier 02:17:56 that's why console players have a higher winrate... 02:35:14 -!- Guest69125 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:40:56 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:40:58 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 02:52:39 -!- squidcat has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:54:10 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-1511-g16f215b 02:55:02 tiles is for hardcore players 02:55:09 -!- hpm_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:56:01 explore mode is for softcore players 03:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:04:17 -!- destroythecore has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:15:53 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:21:25 console is for casual players 03:21:29 explore mode is for devs 03:28:10 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.19-a0-1511-g16f215b (34) 03:34:47 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 03:43:43 zxc has no idea how hard crawl is anyhow, obviously plays on the easiest mode possible with a win rate like that 03:45:19 -!- bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:45:20 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:46:09 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 03:50:53 -!- bairyn has joined ##crawl-dev 03:54:00 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:54:49 but I play tiles... tiles is hardmode 03:55:17 some kind of hacked, australian tiles I guess! 03:55:40 crawl is an australian game 03:55:49 us australians have inherent advantages over the rest of you 03:56:11 we just instinctively know how to deal with snakes and spiders 03:56:15 see that theory falls apart when you consider chequers 03:56:54 he is merely masquerading as an australian 04:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:15:16 -!- Siegurt has joined ##crawl-dev 04:15:16 -!- Siegurt has quit [Client Quit] 04:16:20 -!- Siegurt has joined ##crawl-dev 04:27:18 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 04:33:53 -!- Medar has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:34:01 -!- Medar has joined ##crawl-dev 04:40:03 -!- Elynae has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:53:54 -!- HellTiger_NB has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:56:04 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:00:05 -!- Medar has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 05:00:06 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:00:13 -!- Medar has joined ##crawl-dev 05:01:47 -!- Zet has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:04:50 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 05:08:46 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 05:12:06 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 05:20:44 -!- Netmonmatt has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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spawning a shield with the ego resistance 11:23:00 whew thats rare 11:23:58 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:24:15 -!- ScarCow has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:26:02 -!- Dracunos7 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:32:18 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 11:41:41 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:44:21 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 11:51:15 -!- jeefus has joined ##crawl-dev 11:51:26 -!- NhorianScum has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:52:43 -!- Lasty has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:54:01 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 11:54:47 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 11:54:49 -!- jefus has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:56:54 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 12:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:02:38 !source artefact_properties_t 12:02:38 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/artefact.h#L98 12:07:46 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 12:16:03 -!- Tux[Qyou] is now known as meeeeeee 12:17:44 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:21:45 MarvinPA: how sad would you be if i removed the 'turtles withdraw into their shells' mechanic 12:22:36 very much not sad at all! 12:22:56 it'd be sort of nice to try to salvage it, but idk what's actually good there 12:23:01 i forget they even do it really, dunno how they've gotten away with it for so long after agate snail removal 12:23:05 lol 12:23:17 the first half answer the second, imo :) 12:23:24 heh 12:23:45 i was reading up on it a bit - it looks like it may have been originally added back when injured monsters ran away 12:23:59 people were annoyed at turtles running away (and using reaching attacks as they ran!) instead of, well, turtling up 12:24:09 yeah, i think it's definitely of the fleeing era 12:24:18 have you seen the super mario turtle proposal? 12:24:29 no... 12:24:54 oh! maybe?? is it an ancient devwiki thing? 12:24:54 Players can push shelled turtles around. (It is fun and a nod to Super Mario, so what's not to like?) A turtle pushed into lava dies (good luck finding that in Shoals), if pushed into water, it will act like a swimmer (and submerge). Pushing should be slow, i.e. there's a chance (depending on Str) of missing a turn spent pushing. 12:24:57 yess 12:24:59 hahah yes 12:25:44 i love the idea that it should be possible to push turtles around, but hugely cumbersome, and if you end up in water somehow it's a total waste of your time 12:25:45 like... why 12:26:03 Very strong Large characters should be able to pick up a scared turtle and throw it at an enemy. I 12:26:24 mmmm 12:26:35 !source wiz_items.cc 12:26:36 Can't find wiz_items.cc. 12:26:46 i think wiz-item.cc? 12:26:46 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 12:26:50 oh 12:26:51 ty 12:26:53 !source wiz_item.cc 12:26:54 Can't find wiz_item.cc. 12:27:01 bleh ill just go grab it off my hard drive 12:27:12 !source wiz-item.cc 12:27:12 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/wiz-item.cc 12:27:17 o 12:27:21 protopulse: dash, not underscore 12:27:22 turtle shells being enchantable into shields is even suggested in multiple places, nice 12:27:31 yae 12:27:31 seems to be the same b0rsuk guy 12:27:46 protopulse: you may ask, "how do i remember whether crawl filenames use a dash or an underscore?" 12:27:53 it's simple: guess randomly! 12:27:56 because youre a wizard! 12:27:58 oh 12:27:59 lame 12:28:01 lol 12:28:03 yours is better 12:28:19 MarvinPA: also, people proposed both dart slugs AND howler monkeys like a million years ago, apparently 12:28:20 fungal superpowers 12:28:21 pretty happy about my progress so far btw 12:28:25 Submerged sharks should be presented as white ^ glyphs, to represent their legendary dorsal fin. 12:28:25 im about halfway thru it :) 12:28:27 though the proposed dart slugs were a lot more... complex 12:28:30 this is all so good 12:28:41 it's extremely Silver Age Crawl 12:28:46 protopulse: sweet! 12:29:25 quick question, is it possible to see exactly where in a des file i screwed up the syntax? 12:29:42 i know it's something i did in the variable vaults folder that makes it so crawl can't start 12:29:47 but idk exactly where 12:29:47 huh, crystal golems were originally speed 7 melee enemies. i'm shocked 12:29:58 protopulse: you should get an error saying where the problem is 12:30:08 are you running the game from a console? 12:30:33 PleasingFungus: also spark serpents are on here! truly there is nothing new under the sun ("Thunder snail, with electrical melee attack (evktalo) and ranged eletrical retaliation (og17).") 12:30:35 ./dat/des/portals/desolation.des:69: Unexpected character sequence. 12:30:37 no 12:30:39 its from tiles 12:30:43 when i boot up tiles, it autoquits 12:30:45 or shock serpents or whatever they're called 12:30:52 spark waspernts 12:31:11 i just cant stomach the console UI 12:31:16 for the record, i still like the idea of a slug that spits 'netting' slime at you 12:31:18 dont want to deal with it unless i absolutely have to 12:31:38 protopulse: it's extremely bad, but it seems like you're not getting the debug info you need right now 12:31:49 possibly you can launch the tiles version from a console? 12:31:59 oh i am launching it from msys2 12:32:05 cause i cant be bothered to find it thru all the source files 12:32:08 what exactly are you doing to launch it? 12:32:09 i type ./crawl or start crawl 12:32:20 in the source folder 12:32:20 and you don't get any messages in the command line? 12:32:21 nope 12:32:31 well, sounds like windows is really bad 12:32:39 GEE 12:32:46 (i knew that already) 12:32:52 i would suggest using a superior operating system, like *Steve Jobs' Operating System X*. 12:32:54 everyone's been telling me 12:32:57 lol 12:33:03 it's X, which is the future 12:33:11 ill just look thru it manually 12:33:12 much like activex, directx, xbox, etc 12:33:13 its okay :) 12:33:23 im not ready for the future XXX yet 12:33:33 you could build console just for debugging purposes 12:33:45 oh is there to keep them separate? 12:33:50 when i build console and tiles 12:33:54 the last one i build just overlaps it 12:33:58 then i can't go back 12:34:19 sure you can, you just overwrite right back 12:34:30 build one and then rename it to crawl-console or whatever 12:34:40 god im stupid 12:34:41 ty 12:36:13 the megalopede proposal is cute 12:36:19 Their purpose is to trample players into webs in Spider's Nest. 12:36:35 nice 12:37:01 is this why players hate the devs? 12:37:56 -!- HellTiger has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:38:20 ? 12:38:34 cause you take away stuff that's op and insert stuff that make their lives harder? 12:38:37 was joking 12:39:14 i don't really get it... 12:39:27 nvm... 12:39:30 these are ancient proposals by players mostly, not dev suggestions/plans 12:39:32 rip 12:39:36 oh 12:39:38 its just 12:39:45 i dont browse the tavern 12:39:51 good call 12:39:54 someone i was spectating yesterday told me the players hated the dev 12:39:58 lol 12:40:00 and i was like why 12:40:05 there are some super salty people on tavern 12:40:09 and they were like its stupid and i dont want to get into it 12:40:17 basically drama over game design or something 12:40:26 lots of people have lots of opinions 12:40:33 yea thats what i figured 12:46:26 magicalfaerieponies (L12 HOFi) ASSERT(range >= 0) in 'beam.cc' at line 601 failed. (beam 'puff of flame', source 'tengu conjurer', item 'none'; has range -1) (Zot (ZotDef)) 12:50:49 if i want to set you.unique_items[...] to UNIQ_EXISTS, whats the best place to do it? 12:50:54 or any arbitrary line of code really 12:51:08 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:51:14 -!- cait_ is now known as cait 12:51:22 <|amethyst> in player::player() there is this line: 12:51:26 <|amethyst> unique_items.init(UNIQ_NOT_EXISTS); 12:51:28 <|amethyst> change that 12:51:34 thanks 12:51:58 i was changing the unrand vault yesterday and realized there were a ton in sprint btw 12:52:10 i havent tried sprint but im guessing it doesnt work too well without the unrands 12:52:23 <|amethyst> unrands in sprint aren't so much of a problem, because sprint is supposed to be fairly non-random 12:52:28 sceptre of torment and axe of woe are pretty irreplaceable 12:52:28 <|amethyst> imo 12:52:37 so leave those? 12:52:42 why is sceptre of torment important? 12:52:55 doesnt it apply torment to entire screen 50% of the time on attacks? 12:53:00 no randart will match that 12:53:54 brb 12:54:10 i do not believe that any sprint is balanced around the sceptre of torment 12:54:20 probably because it's very bad for the majority of races 12:57:31 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:59:01 what about axe of woe? 12:59:09 isnt that an executioner's axe that goes up to infinity enchantment? 12:59:26 yeah that one's important 12:59:48 yea exactly, i think i'll leave the unrands in there, i dont really know about sprint balance 12:59:55 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:59:59 might as well not mess with it cause it doesnt affect me anyways 13:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:00:05 sure 13:00:08 axe of woe and amulet of invis are i think the only actually important ones 13:00:15 but it's nbd either way 13:00:38 dear god 13:00:42 my computer's still compiling 13:00:43 its been years 13:01:59 gotem! 13:02:19 https://gyazo.com/1065bff888e95026effd8a06f63e4b72 13:02:24 all hail console mode 13:02:33 :) 13:04:22 huh 13:04:23 "KITEM: d = ring randart no_pickup" 13:04:26 it doesnt like that huh... 13:05:04 try "any ring" 13:05:18 i still want it to be a randart though 13:05:24 im replacing unrands with randarts 13:05:27 or wait 13:05:31 u mean any ring randart no_pickup? 13:05:40 what exactly does "any" do? 13:06:15 <|amethyst> it means randomly pick a subtype given a base class 13:06:29 but isnt ring THE subtype? 13:06:36 im declaring i want not any jewellry 13:06:38 but i want a ring 13:06:38 no 13:06:43 there is no subtype 'ring' 13:06:46 <|amethyst> no, "ring of stealth" is the subtype 13:06:51 ah 13:07:03 <|amethyst> but, yeah, I was simplifying somewhat 13:07:04 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:07:15 <|amethyst> since "ring" isn't exactly a base item class 13:07:34 so if i want a ring 13:07:35 i have to say 13:07:38 ring of stealth randart 13:07:40 for example 13:07:46 or ring of slaying randart 13:07:59 <|amethyst> if you want that specific type of ring 13:08:15 or you can say "any ring randart" 13:08:29 probably 13:08:50 trying right now 13:08:56 for some reason it's not letting me edit the file 13:08:56 o_o 13:09:01 read only mode 13:09:13 <|amethyst> did you already have it open somewhere else? 13:09:21 <|amethyst> in another window for example 13:09:29 i just tested 13:09:31 i had console open 13:09:33 it didnt like that 13:09:39 closed it and its fine now 13:10:21 yup 13:10:23 works fine now :) 13:10:43 glad i dont have to make everytime i make changes to des files 13:10:46 only the actual code 13:11:00 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:12:29 sweeeeet! 13:12:30 it ran 13:12:34 ok time to make the scrolls 13:12:57 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 13:13:47 btw did someone make changes to wizard mode see map to trunk? 13:13:52 i remember it didnt use to show items 13:13:55 like it'd show a question mark 13:14:00 when you entered &{ 13:14:36 !source minmay_shoctagon 13:14:36 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/variable/float.des#L3194 13:14:56 -!- Krymise has joined ##crawl-dev 13:15:25 -!- Krymise is now known as Krymise|PHI 13:17:52 protopulse: yep 13:19:35 well i guess that's convenient 13:19:49 -!- zeia has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:21:47 -!- Krymise|PHI has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 13:23:39 -!- Krymise has joined ##crawl-dev 13:24:53 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.19-a0-1511-g16f215b (34) 13:27:49 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:29:47 -!- Krymise has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 13:30:10 -!- Krymise has joined ##crawl-dev 13:32:28 -!- Dracunos-m has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:32:39 -!- Dracunos7 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:42:57 -!- TMTurtle has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:47:44 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:49:40 -!- Dracunos-m has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:50:15 !source item_level 13:50:16 Can't find item_level. 13:50:23 !source depth_mod 13:50:24 Can't find depth_mod. 13:50:25 that's a variable that shows up in a bunch of places 13:50:27 not a function 13:50:32 gotcha 13:50:37 well, a parameter used in many functions? i guess 13:50:45 hmm 13:50:46 so 13:50:48 ive seen absdepth 13:50:52 and item_level and depth_mod 13:50:57 im assuming they all control item generation 13:51:02 as a function of how deep you are in the dungeon 13:51:06 trying to figure out their differences 13:51:13 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 13:51:18 -!- Alatreon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:51:24 also trying to make it so my scroll generates randomly on D:1 for testing purpose 13:51:36 <|amethyst> but only D:1 ? 13:51:39 no no 13:51:40 absdepth is a concept of "how far below d:1 is this level", more or less 13:51:41 just for now 13:51:43 ish 13:52:22 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: Reality is an illusion, the universe is a hologram, buy gold, BYE] 13:52:38 <|amethyst> scroll placement isn't affected much by depth 13:53:03 <|amethyst> there is a list of seven scrolls that become more common as you go deeper 13:53:09 !source makeitem:1452 13:53:10 Can't find makeitem. 13:53:14 !source makeitem.cc:1452 13:53:15 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/makeitem.cc#L1452 13:53:18 is what i was looking at 13:53:20 <|amethyst> yeah 13:53:26 <|amethyst> depth_mod btw is defined further up there 13:53:31 <|amethyst> const int depth_mod = random2(1 + item_level); 13:53:40 oh yea 13:53:42 i saw that 13:53:45 looking for item_level atm 13:53:53 <|amethyst> if you put your scroll in the argument list, and don't do that (depth_mod < 4 ? ...) thing 13:53:59 <|amethyst> then your scroll can generate on D:1 13:54:16 give it a weight of like 13:54:17 10000 13:54:18 or something right 13:54:30 <|amethyst> well 13:54:30 <|amethyst> that will make your game much harder probably 13:54:33 lol 13:54:35 oh 13:54:35 <|amethyst> since you won't get many other scrolls 13:54:37 this isnt for the game 13:54:41 this is for testing 13:54:41 lol 13:54:46 <|amethyst> use wizmode 13:54:51 <|amethyst> &%scroll of frobulation 13:55:00 err 13:55:02 also you have to name your scroll the scroll of frobulation 13:55:04 that's not optional 13:55:15 oh i named it scroll of alchemy 13:55:18 cause thats basically what it does 13:55:22 gotta rename it now 13:55:23 <|amethyst> hm 13:55:23 sorry 13:55:26 >_> 13:55:32 <|amethyst> "alchemy" makes me think it works on potions 13:55:45 hmmmm 13:55:47 okay 13:55:50 ill name it 13:55:52 frobulation 13:55:53 BUT 13:55:56 just a placeholder 13:56:01 until i can come up with a better one to make u 2 happy 13:56:24 also reason i didnt want to use wizmode 13:56:25 to generate it 13:56:32 is cause idk how to mess with wizmode code yet 13:56:34 <|amethyst> "reforging" might be one possibility 13:56:44 perhaps =P 13:56:45 <|amethyst> you don't have to mess with wizmode code 13:56:46 -!- Kenran has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:56:55 <|amethyst> &% uses the same parser that vault item placement does 13:57:03 ohh 13:57:22 i dont think im quite at the stage where i can generate it yet 13:57:26 i dont have a corresponding png 13:57:33 i gave it a description and initiated it 13:57:34 thats about it 13:57:36 still gotta code it 13:57:43 <|amethyst> don't have to have a tile 13:57:55 <|amethyst> it'll get a "TODO" tile I think? 13:58:14 i wonder if my thing even compiles right now 13:58:32 ive added it to des/descriptions/items 13:58:34 and itemname.cc 13:58:48 messing with makeitem.cc right now to take care of generation 13:58:59 gonna go thru item_use.cc next 13:59:04 thats probably where the bulk of the work will be 13:59:15 item-use.cc* 13:59:20 <|amethyst> yeah 13:59:46 actually 13:59:48 lets compile it 13:59:50 see if it breaks 13:59:51 . 14:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:00:41 <|amethyst> btw, it might be worth looking at the smithgod_rebased branch, as well as old code from when Chei had Make Ponderous 14:00:55 !source smithgod_rebased 14:00:56 Can't find smithgod_rebased. 14:01:00 can you link? 14:01:01 <|amethyst> %git smithgod_rebased 14:01:01 07reaverb02 * 0.15-a0-2314-g5b6e44f: Merge branch 'master' into smithgod_rebased 10(2 years, 2 months ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/5b6e44f7a7a5 14:01:09 <|amethyst> err 14:01:10 im not too familiar with past commits 14:01:16 is this like 14:01:17 dwarven forge 14:01:20 or something like that 14:01:25 i might have remembered reading something like that 14:01:47 <|amethyst> not that commit, let me find you the branch page 14:01:51 okay 14:02:02 <|amethyst> https://github.com/crawl/crawl/compare/smithgod_rebased 14:02:16 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 14:02:23 <|amethyst> the second commit has a "artefactize" ability, which some of the later commits change 14:02:56 oh 14:03:01 but im altering the artefact properties 14:03:07 not makign an artefact out of a mundane item 14:03:24 ill still take a look thru it tho 14:03:33 <|amethyst> yeah, you have to handle things it doesn't 14:04:03 <|amethyst> also, it only did weapons 14:04:17 should be the same idea for jewellry 14:04:22 just different properties 14:04:35 <|amethyst> jewellery is a little more complicated 14:04:53 <|amethyst> because one of the "properties" actually isn't a property but comes from the base type 14:05:02 but 14:05:05 oh 14:05:10 is weapon brands treated differently? 14:05:16 if i have a handaxe of freezing 14:05:18 the freezing's a modifier 14:05:21 not part of its identity 14:05:23 <|amethyst> yeah, brands are different 14:05:30 -!- Dracunos7 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:05:44 <|amethyst> with artefacts, the place the brand would usually go is something saying which artefact it is 14:06:00 <|amethyst> and there's an artefact prop that acts as the actual brand 14:06:10 <|amethyst> But for rings 14:06:29 <|amethyst> the difference between a "ring of stealth" and "ring of ice" is like the difference between a quarterstaff and a rapier 14:06:42