00:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:06:55 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:07:08 !lm spanner 00:07:09 2012. [2016-09-05 21:33:49] spanner the Chopper (L1 HOBe of Trog) began the quest for the Orb on turn 0. (D:1) 00:12:49 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:19:42 -!- Pa1ncake has quit [Client Quit] 00:22:06 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 00:25:03 -!- destroythecore has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:26:58 -!- sysice has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:29:10 chequers: spellpower only affects if the rmsl dissipates, the evade chance is independent 00:29:10 oh 00:29:10 suddenly I see there's more to the chat 00:29:10 ignore that comment chequers 00:29:10 unignore that comment 00:29:13 hi wormcan! 00:30:14 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.19-a0-1457-g32fba05 (34) 00:30:16 CanOfWorms: hm 00:30:28 CanOfWorms: thanks 00:35:05 channel quiz: what does "disrupted casting" mean? 00:35:57 antimagic? 00:36:10 -!- diazepan has quit [Quit: diazepan] 00:36:24 silence and other similar effects wouldn't "disrupt", they'd just prevent 00:36:27 hint: it's a ru sacrifice 00:36:28 the other guess is breaking a channeled 00:36:39 oh, someone tries to cast, ru rebukes them, it's disrupted? 00:36:57 it's a permanent -wiz sacrifice 00:37:31 rare... 00:37:34 !source disable_type 00:37:34 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/enum.h#L4964 00:37:36 what's this? 00:38:16 fsim thing? 00:38:26 looks like it's for debugging 00:39:08 ah yeah, used by fsim 00:42:55 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 00:43:40 -!- elliptic has quit [Client Quit] 00:44:41 vim highlights contributions from the mysterious dev known as XXX in yellow 00:44:43 that's cute 00:45:05 haha 00:45:08 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 00:45:10 clearly we need a special vim style that highlights all dev signatures 00:45:12 just saw someone die to your vault, gammafunk 00:45:16 enchanted lake or w/e 00:45:17 laire one? 00:45:58 sadly he's a felid 00:45:58 oh, the runed door? 00:45:58 ya 00:45:58 yeah 00:45:58 opened runed door, killed a griffon, a rime drake behind it breathed 00:45:58 and instagibbed him 00:45:58 rc-- and harm 00:45:58 and felid 00:45:58 even if you include L:1, which it's only spawned on recently, it's climbing up the ranks 00:46:00 .elrnak 00:46:03 .elrank 00:46:05 7131 games for * (lair ((cv<=0.18 lvl>1 lvl<8 || cv>0.18 lvl<6)) kmap!~~entry|uniq|special|altar kmap!=): 293x grunt_megastairs_3, 284x grunt_megastairs_2, 279x gammafunk_lair_enchanted_lake, 276x ice2_lemuel, 256x worms_lemuel, 251x dpeg_oklob_gauntlet, 248x dragon1_lemuel, 236x grunt_megastairs_4, 181x minmay_lindwurm_lava, 167x grunt_megastairs_5, 166x forest_paths, 156x bobbens_ice_dragon_lair... 00:46:18 yeah rime drakes have pretty spiky damage, even without rc- and harm 00:46:31 but that obviously an amazing combo together with -40% hp 00:46:45 he went from full (~60) to -11 hp 00:46:46 it was very good 00:46:49 heh 00:46:57 !lg * kmap~~enchanted_lake fe 00:46:58 fe is ambiguous: may be species or class. Use fe-- (Felid) or --fe (Fire Elementalist) to disambiguate 00:46:59 "it fired the same turn i killed the monster in front of it!" he complained 00:47:00 !lg * kmap~~enchanted_lake fe-- 00:47:01 No games for * (kmap~~enchanted_lake fe--). 00:47:13 oh 00:47:16 er 00:47:22 felid deaths don't set kmap probably 00:47:39 it'd be a milestone 00:47:41 ya 00:47:54 !lm * fe-- death lair milestone~~rime 00:48:05 no idea if you can even find it 00:49:24 90s limit exceeded: killed !lm * fe-- death lair milestone~~rime 00:49:35 !lm * death fe-- lair 00:49:43 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 00:49:47 6414. [2016-09-06 04:44:27] rlgrobin the Destroyer (L13 FeFE of Ru) blasted by a rime drake (flash freeze) (Lair:3) 00:49:53 hrm 00:50:01 that was him 00:50:05 !lm * death fe-- x=dam 00:50:22 sequell a bit slow today 00:50:30 lm queries tend to be a bit slow 00:50:31 !lm * death fe-- x=cv 00:50:32 !lg * 00:50:37 6119394. Snack the Basher (L13 KoCK of Xom), blasted by a rime drake (flash freeze) in IceCv (ice_cave_small_dragons) on 2016-09-06 04:49:22, with 27013 points after 14858 turns and 0:32:29. 00:50:46 sup pf 00:50:55 how ya doin 00:51:34 I'm playing another cpa char... 00:51:34 heh 00:51:34 *ocpa 00:51:34 this time found in a bailay 00:51:34 *bailey 00:51:34 it's an oddly common artefact 00:51:34 also this one has SUMMONS 00:51:34 i'm not sure why 00:51:34 68039. [2016-09-06 04:44:27] [cv=0.19-a] rlgrobin the Destroyer (L13 FeFE of Ru) blasted by a rime drake (flash freeze) (Lair:3) 00:51:34 No milestones for * (death fe--). 00:51:34 ! 00:51:34 both sequell and chei have seemed slow tonight 00:51:36 got shadow creatures castable and monstrous at 14% 00:51:40 can drop to like 10% with heroism 00:51:42 not sure if anecdotal or not 00:52:02 them being slow is not unheard of 00:52:03 also have dispel unded, summon demon, aura of abj... 00:52:19 take it easy... 00:52:39 yeah Sequell has been slow in general for my queries today, but who knows 00:52:41 current stats: 32/20/14 00:52:55 low for ocpa 00:52:58 PleasingFungus, my major concern with 351 was the whole sheep flavor of the original vault that I was concerned I violated with the iguana thing 00:53:09 it's good enough! 00:53:09 I think iguana/jelly is fine 00:53:25 the sacred flavour of the xom monty hall vault... 00:53:26 I can get +7 str from an amulet 00:53:27 but, yeah, if it's an overflow then putting it deep breaks that 00:54:24 !lm rlgrobin fe-- death lair 00:54:25 2. [2016-09-06 04:44:27] rlgrobin the Destroyer (L13 FeFE of Ru) blasted by a rime drake (flash freeze) (Lair:3) 00:54:28 if you want to make it not an overflow, that could be ok too 00:54:36 dammit, stop it irssi 00:54:40 !lm rlgrobin fe-- death lair 1 00:54:41 1/2. [2016-09-06 04:33:04] rlgrobin the Nimble (L13 FeFE of Ru) blasted by an elephant (exploding inner flame) (hexed by the player character) (Lair:2) 00:54:43 this one's good too 00:54:48 good short tv 00:54:54 turns out milestones don't have dam as a field, and when you try to query them, sequell says "no results" 00:54:59 ah, i was wondering 00:55:09 imo tv either/both of those deaths 00:55:19 maybe at <0.5 or w/e 00:55:36 !lg * ikiller~~inner_flame 00:55:41 rlgrobin is a robin from 4chan, I might get an infection 00:55:42 !lg * kaux~~inner_flame 00:56:01 1. Zermako the Shooter (L3 MuAM), incinerated by miscasting Inner Flame on D:3 on 2013-08-29 11:10:00, with 221 points after 1839 turns and 0:03:44. 00:56:02 10217. LogicNinja the Carver (L10 DsGl of Cheibriados), blasted by a ball python (exploding inner flame) (hexed by the player character) (kmap: introduction_to_nature_2) on D:8 on 2016-09-06 04:28:53, with 4128 points after 8347 turns and 0:11:10. 00:56:05 ! 00:56:11 oh, three years ago 00:56:16 zermako AND logicninja in back to back queries.. 00:56:18 wow. double famous names 00:56:30 good old logicninja still plays 00:56:33 !lg silentsnack 00:56:34 8927. silentsnack the Sneak (L5 OpEn of Okawaru), mangled by Robin (a +1 dagger of electrocution) on D:3 on 2016-09-06 01:13:34, with 177 points after 2331 turns and 0:05:08. 00:57:09 nice 00:57:09 so does snack 00:57:09 i like how there's only 1 death from inner flame miscasts 00:57:09 !lm stabwound 00:57:09 6339. [2013-08-21 18:26:02] Stabwound the Skirmisher (L9 OpVM of Vehumet) killed Psyche on turn 10042. (D:9) 00:57:09 still killing the Op 00:57:09 rip... 00:57:09 !lg * kaux~~miscasting 00:57:09 3097. Uzielius the Magician (L6 DECj of Vehumet), killed by miscasting Iskenderun's Battlesphere on D:4 on 2016-09-05 02:32:47, with 414 points after 3541 turns and 0:08:07. 00:57:09 !lg * kaux~~miscasting x=kaux 00:57:10 3097. [kaux=miscasting Iskenderun's Battlesphere] Uzielius the Magician (L6 DECj of Vehumet), killed by miscasting Iskenderun's Battlesphere on D:4 on 2016-09-05 02:32:47, with 414 points after 3541 turns and 0:08:07. 00:57:12 yeah stabwound was kind of before my time, but a lot of people talked about them 00:57:16 !tv * kaux~~miscasting 00:57:17 3097. Uzielius, XL6 DECj, T:3541 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 00:57:27 stabwound was the original streaker 00:57:29 !lg * kaux~~miscasting s=kaux 00:57:30 3097 games for * (kaux~~miscasting): 467x miscasting Sticky Flame, 215x miscasting Mephitic Cloud, 204x miscasting Iskenderun's Battlesphere, 193x miscasting Regeneration, 179x miscasting Fireball, 145x miscasting Lightning Bolt, 141x spell miscasting, 126x miscasting Throw Icicle, 104x miscasting Venom Bolt, 89x miscasting Iskenderun's Mystic Blast, 73x miscasting Animate Dead, 69x miscasting Vam... 00:57:33 like, his CeHe runs 00:57:34 the glory days of mikee and stabwound 00:57:41 insane, back when we had victory dancing and shit 00:57:58 ??stabwound 00:57:58 I don't have a page labeled stabwound in my learndb. 00:58:05 pre-learndb enshrining 00:58:11 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 00:58:11 wow. firstly, why are there so many deaths from sticky flame miscasts but only 1/1 for the previous query 00:58:19 secondly, why does sticky flame kill people 00:58:19 this would be 2006-08 so yeah 00:58:32 why do miscasts of it kill people? 00:58:38 ??miscast 00:58:38 miscast[1/1]: Failure to cast spells causes various generally nasty things to occur, becoming nastier with spell level and spell failure. Miscasts come in severity 0,1,2,3; 0 is always harmless. See { miscast}. 00:58:46 or why did the effect itself kill people 00:58:55 it's more tempting to cast in heavy armour, i think 00:58:56 why is sticky flame the most prolific miscast killer 00:59:01 i nearly died to a sticky flame miscast once myself 00:59:05 "if I can just get one sticky off" 00:59:05 mostly because people play FE 00:59:07 and it's an L4 00:59:13 so it's going to get cast a lot and miscast a lot 00:59:17 ice beast is similar 00:59:30 enough miscast damage to kill you, I'd say 00:59:35 !lg * kaux~~miscasting s=kaux 00:59:35 3097 games for * (kaux~~miscasting): 467x miscasting Sticky Flame, 215x miscasting Mephitic Cloud, 204x miscasting Iskenderun's Battlesphere, 193x miscasting Regeneration, 179x miscasting Fireball, 145x miscasting Lightning Bolt, 141x spell miscasting, 126x miscasting Throw Icicle, 104x miscasting Venom Bolt, 89x miscasting Iskenderun's Mystic Blast, 73x miscasting Animate Dead, 69x miscasting Vam... 00:59:43 meph cloud is VM and Wz 00:59:43 yeah L4, L5 00:59:47 those are the big miscasters 00:59:48 battlesphere is Cj, a popular background 00:59:52 Regen is Ne and.. Sk? 00:59:55 meph is only L3 ofc 00:59:56 Fireball is FE again 01:00:01 !lg * --fe / --wz 01:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:00:03 what is 'spell miscasting'? 01:00:06 0/256094 games for * (--fe): N=0/256094 (0.00%) 01:00:06 regen is just something people cast a lot... still weird to die to it 01:00:11 !lg * --fe 01:00:13 256094. johnl023 the Firebug (L3 DsFE), slain by Natasha on D:2 on 2016-09-06 04:19:09, with 39 points after 1561 turns and 0:04:28. 01:00:14 !lg * kaux="spell miscasting" 01:00:15 !lg * wz 01:00:15 141. crux the Ducker (L7 SpVM of Xom), killed by spell miscasting on D:6 on 2009-06-10 06:08:29, with 947 points after 6843 turns and 0:31:02. 01:00:19 379065. kudojack the Magician (L1 DEWz), slain by a jackal on D:1 (nicolae_arrival_somewhat_less_tricky_arrival) on 2016-09-06 04:47:27, with 4 points after 170 turns and 0:01:45. 01:00:23 I guess ice beast isn't actually a leading killer, less than icicle, but yeah I feel L3-L5 are the sweet spots 01:00:24 an old, generic kaux 01:00:26 for dying to miscasts 01:00:27 very old 01:00:37 -!- omnirizon has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:00:38 !lg * kaux~~miscasting s=kaux recent 01:00:39 352 games for * (kaux~~miscasting recent): 88x miscasting Sticky Flame, 36x miscasting Iskenderun's Battlesphere, 22x miscasting Fireball, 20x miscasting Regeneration, 17x miscasting Spider Form, 17x miscasting Mephitic Cloud, 10x miscasting Blink, 9x miscasting Iskenderun's Mystic Blast, 9x miscasting Animate Dead, 9x miscasting Throw Icicle, 7x miscasting Venom Bolt, 7x miscasting Ice Form, 7x m... 01:00:47 spider form lol 01:00:56 ??tmut miscast 01:00:56 transmutations miscast[1/1]: By severity: 1: 1-11 damage or random uselessness. 2: 3-25 damage, 0-18 {contam} or {weakness}. 3: Badform for random2(200) turns, 3-20 dmg AND 0-34 {contam}, 5-27 dmg AND delete mutation, 5-27 dmg AND 1-2 bad mutations. 01:00:57 the effects from L1-2 aren't enough, and by L6 you're strong enough to survive them 01:01:01 !lg * kaux="miscasting summon ice beast" 01:01:02 57. Vasilisck the Magician (L5 DEIE), killed by miscasting Summon Ice Beast on D:3 on 2016-08-26 17:00:05, with 235 points after 3679 turns and 0:15:34. 01:01:08 maybe also since the wierd bumb in difficulty for L6 01:01:11 *bump 01:01:21 Lair 6 or level 6? 01:01:22 which was reduced relatively recently, but still exists 01:01:27 spell level 6 01:01:28 level six spells, wrt miscasting 01:01:46 What, it's not sequential? 01:01:47 there's a marked jump in difficulty for casting L6 compared to L5, was higher in the past 01:01:59 it's much more so now, but still not sequential, yeah 01:02:06 some smart geek has numbers 01:02:45 !source spl-cast.cc:332 01:02:45 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/spl-cast.cc#L332 01:03:24 not sure how that translates to miscast rates, but this was changed in I want to say 0.16? 01:03:24 +12, 20, 35, 30, 50, 50, 60, 70 01:04:00 4 to 5 seems out of sequence 01:04:04 35 to 30 01:04:07 yeah 01:04:15 let me see if I can find the commit 01:04:18 crawlcode 01:04:35 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 01:04:36 those particular chances are unchanged since initial commit 01:04:40 possibly something else was changed 01:04:44 yeah 01:04:46 also they used to support spells up to level 12 01:04:49 i'd forgotten that 01:04:51 %git 7441663e 01:04:51 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.16-a0-3313-g7441663: Replace a switch with an array lookup 10(1 year, 8 months ago, 1 file, 17+ 15-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7441663edb7e 01:05:16 up to level 13, really! 01:05:22 unlucky... 01:05:23 just in case someone wanted to add a level 13 ultrafirestorm 01:05:35 wasn't that for some ancient code that boosted spell level (or am I imagining things) 01:06:14 it may actually be spell hunger that I'm thinking of wrt nonlinear in spell levels; but yeah sticky flame is probably more about spell level/background, although perhaps the miscast effects being fire is helping 01:06:21 wow, I can't believe gary isn't rpois... 01:06:36 gary and anty forever poison vulnerable... 01:07:06 !lg * mage s=cls% 01:07:13 1689161 games for * (mage): 379065x Wizard (22.44%), 256094x Fire Elementalist (15.16%), 250352x Conjurer (14.82%), 188654x Necromancer (11.17%), 145780x Ice Elementalist (8.63%), 143814x Earth Elementalist (8.51%), 117201x Air Elementalist (6.94%), 107292x Summoner (6.35%), 100909x Venom Mage (5.97%) 01:07:15 foreverial 01:07:28 delitized and parrow vulnerable 01:08:21 Brannock: never heard of that, but seems plausible! 01:08:21 gammafunk: did you know that due_jungle_book can randomly spawn plants in the entrance corridor 01:08:21 !vault due_jungle_book 01:08:21 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/lair.des#L2491 01:08:21 yeah, like blocking the passages? 01:08:27 it seems to be intentional 01:08:29 but i don't know why 01:08:31 I've had to kill those blocking plants a bunch, sure 01:08:35 well, one thing is 01:08:47 if you leave the plants, and wake up the statues on the one side 01:08:49 just watched someone spend about a full minute screwing around with spells to be able to kill them 01:08:54 without exploring the others 01:09:11 it keeps the dire statues boxed in on the other side 01:09:30 what, no quarterstaff? 01:09:34 however yeah you could certainly just remove those, since knowing that is spoilery 01:09:57 why did they need spells to kill them? a mage? 01:11:52 ya 01:12:35 shitty felid 01:12:47 dire statues? 01:13:10 oh 01:13:11 n/m 01:13:57 never realized that one was called jungle book 01:13:57 but yeah, i have to kill the plants a lot 01:13:57 -- the anaconda is named kaa. 01:15:16 you don't remember dire elephant statues in The Jungle Book? That's my favorite part. 01:16:16 !lairrendkills current trunk 01:16:36 !lairendkills current trunk 01:16:52 pirate sequell 01:17:16 Lair End kills (current trunk): 171x evil_forest (18.98%), 112x evilmike_catoblepas_cave (12.43%), 103x grunt_lair_end_beastmaster (11.43%), 80x minmay_lair_end_frog_pond (8.88%), 78x hangedman_lair_tendril_chambers (8.66%), 75x wormcave (8.32%), 74x minmay_lair_end_enchanted_forest (8.21%), 71x hangedman_lair_in_review (7.88%), 69x guppyfry_lair_end_dragon (7.66%), 67x gammafunk_lair_ancient_temp... 01:17:17 I also made !swampendkills, !snakeendkills, !shoalsendkills, and !spiderendkills 01:17:31 !lairendkills lairtemple 01:17:32 Lair End kills (lairtemple): 67x gammafunk_lair_ancient_temple (19.25%), 64x evil_forest (18.39%), 37x evilmike_catoblepas_cave (10.63%), 37x grunt_lair_end_beastmaster (10.63%), 29x wormcave (8.33%), 27x hangedman_lair_tendril_chambers (7.76%), 25x hangedman_lair_in_review (7.18%), 24x minmay_lair_end_frog_pond (6.90%), 19x guppyfry_lair_end_dragon (5.46%), 19x minmay_lair_end_enchanted_forest (5... 01:17:42 -!- hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:17:50 !shoalsendkills 01:17:52 Shoals End kills (): 914x shoalhut (40.99%), 657x shoals_alternative (29.46%), 437x shoals_iceberg (19.60%), 221x shoals_garden (9.91%), grunt_orc_garden (0.04%) 01:18:06 not really sure if that one should group the huts together by ending type, but that's what it does 01:18:11 oh 01:18:17 orc garden, dangit grunt 01:19:35 an orctopus's garden 01:19:39 !lg * title:"Shoals End kills ($*)" $* kmap~~_iceberg|shoals_garden|shoalhut|alternative kmap!~~ilsuiw shoals s=regexp_replace(regexp_replace(kmap, "_rune", ""), "_decoy", "")% 01:19:40 Shoals End kills (): 914x shoalhut (41.00%), 657x shoals_alternative (29.48%), 437x shoals_iceberg (19.61%), 221x shoals_garden (9.91%) 01:20:09 is garden the wide open one? 01:20:20 yes 01:20:37 wide open in that the huts have no walls, just plants, and lots of c 01:20:38 is it rarer, or less deadly? 01:20:39 i'm surprised that hasn't killed more people 01:20:43 well yeah 01:20:49 or both i guess 01:20:50 !shoalsendkills current 01:20:51 Shoals End kills (current): 197x shoals_iceberg (39.80%), 113x shoalhut (22.83%), 104x shoals_garden (21.01%), 81x shoals_alternative (16.36%) 01:20:54 that's historical 01:20:59 er the old query was 01:21:06 aha 01:21:18 wow, iceberg 01:21:22 let me guess, frost giants 01:21:25 iceberg does not screw around 01:21:39 !lg * shoals kmap=shoals_iceberg s=killer 01:21:40 162 games for * (shoals kmap=shoals_iceberg): 38x a water nymph, 22x an alligator snapping turtle, 17x a merfolk aquamancer, 15x a merfolk javelineer, 15x a merfolk, 13x a sea snake, 8x a merfolk impaler, 8x a manticore, 8x a snapping turtle, 6x a satyr, 3x a harpy, 3x a griffon, 2x a cyclops, 2x a wind drake, 2x a water elemental 01:21:42 !lg * shoals kmap=shoals_iceberg s=ikiller 01:21:43 162 games for * (shoals kmap=shoals_iceberg): 38x a water nymph, 22x an alligator snapping turtle, 17x a merfolk aquamancer, 15x a merfolk javelineer, 15x a merfolk, 13x a sea snake, 8x a merfolk impaler, 8x a manticore, 8x a snapping turtle, 6x a satyr, 3x a harpy, 3x a griffon, 2x a cyclops, 2x a wind drake, 2x a water elemental 01:21:51 iceberg seems pretty common too 01:21:53 well 01:21:56 you want a ~~ 01:22:10 -!- ximxim_ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:22:14 !lg * kmap~~shoals_iceberg s=ckiller% 01:22:15 437 games for * (kmap~~shoals_iceberg): 77x a frost giant (17.62%), 70x a merfolk impaler (16.02%), 69x a merfolk aquamancer (15.79%), 57x a water nymph (13.04%), 49x a merfolk javelineer (11.21%), 31x an alligator snapping turtle (7.09%), 19x a merfolk (4.35%), 15x a sea snake (3.43%), 13x a snapping turtle (2.97%), 10x a manticore (2.29%), 6x a satyr (1.37%), 5x a griffon (1.14%), 5x a harpy (1.... 01:22:26 mmm 01:22:28 good showing out of the snapping turtles though 01:22:30 frosty 01:22:40 since there are vaults for rune, vaults for normal huts 01:22:45 but they all have that prefix 01:22:52 ah 01:23:07 doesn't the iceberg end usually have a kraken too? 01:23:09 -!- Harudoku has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:23:14 simulacrum, yeah 01:23:23 which has like one kill 01:23:35 !lg * kmap~~shoals_iceberg s=ckiller% o=-N 01:23:36 437 games for * (kmap~~shoals_iceberg): a siren (0.23%), a kraken simulacrum (0.23%), 2x a wind drake (0.46%), 2x a water elemental (0.46%), 5x a griffon (1.14%), 5x a harpy (1.14%), 5x a cyclops (1.14%), 6x a satyr (1.37%), 10x a manticore (2.29%), 13x a snapping turtle (2.97%), 15x a sea snake (3.43%), 19x a merfolk (4.35%), 31x an alligator snapping turtle (7.09%), 49x a merfolk javelineer (11.... 01:23:47 huh 01:23:55 although i guess i've never died to it either 01:23:56 potentially some insane damage, but they're really fragile 01:24:01 and slow 01:24:12 @??ice kraken simulacrum 01:24:13 unknown monster: "ice kraken simulacrum" 01:24:20 @??kraken simulacrum 01:24:20 kraken simulacrum (12Z) | Spd: 12 | HD: 16 | HP: 39-57 | AC/EV: 18/0 | Dam: 4012(cold:16-47) | 07undead, evil, unbreathing | Res: 06magic(21), 12cold+++, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 04fire, 08holy++ | XP: 684 | Sp: spawn tentacles [11!AM, 06!sil] | Sz: Giant | Int: brainless. 01:24:21 derp 01:24:23 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:24:27 @??tentacle simulacrum 01:24:28 unknown monster: "tentacle simulacrum" 01:24:30 wow 01:24:32 @??kraken tentacle simulacrum 01:24:32 unknown monster: "kraken tentacle simulacrum" 01:25:08 hrm 01:25:08 i didn't realize the hp was that low 01:25:08 not sure if you can simulacrum the tentacle in monster 01:25:08 simulac hp is low generally 01:25:08 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:25:08 @??kraken simulacrum tentacle 01:25:08 unknown monster: "kraken simulacrum tentacle" 01:25:08 it's corpseless, so probably not 01:25:13 explains why oofs run thorough mine 01:25:25 @??kraken tentacle 01:25:25 unknown monster: "kraken tentacle" 01:25:29 @??tentacle 01:25:29 tentacle (13w) | Spd: 17 (07stationary) | HD: 12 | HP: 36-57 | AC/EV: 5/7 | Dam: 29 | amphibious, cold-blooded, fly | Res: 13magic(immune), 12drown | XP: 0 | Sz: Large | Int: animal. 01:25:42 nice dam number 01:25:49 indeed 01:25:50 what's something with 30 dam? 01:25:58 heh, i like how they're flying 01:26:02 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 01:26:03 @??polar bear 01:26:03 polar bear (12h) | Spd: 10 | HD: 7 | HP: 39-52 | AC/EV: 7/8 | Dam: 20, 5, 5 | amphibious | Res: 06magic(20), 02cold, 12drown | XP: 296 | Sp: berserker rage [11!AM, 06!sil, 04emergency] | Sz: Large | Int: animal. 01:26:15 @??vault guard 01:26:16 vault guard (10p) | Spd: 10 | HD: 13 | HP: 62-81 | AC/EV: 9/10 | Dam: 20 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, see invisible | Res: 06magic(60) | XP: 987 | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 01:26:19 @??vault warden 01:26:20 vault warden (04p) | Spd: 10 | HD: 16 | HP: 75-103 | AC/EV: 10/10 | Dam: 36 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, see invisible | Res: 06magic(60) | XP: 1683 | Sp: seal doors | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 01:26:20 @??deep troll 01:26:20 deep troll (08T) | Spd: 10 | HD: 10 | HP: 44-65 | AC/EV: 6/10 | Dam: 27, 2009(claw), 2009(claw) | 10doors, see invisible, regen | Res: 06magic(40), 08blind | XP: 726 | Sz: Large | Int: human. 01:26:29 close enough 01:26:37 !won . HO 01:26:37 Lightli (HO) has won 37 times in 659 games (5.61%): 26xHOBe 6xHOHe 2xHOFi 1xHOAr 1xHOGl 1xHOPr 01:26:40 @??deep troll simulacrum hd:17 01:26:40 deep troll simulacrum (12Z) | Spd: 8 | HD: 17 | HP: 76-111 | AC/EV: 4/5 | Dam: 2112(cold:17-50), 1609(claw)12(cold:17-50), 1609(claw)12(cold:17-50) | 07undead, evil, unbreathing | Res: 06magic(22), 12cold+++, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 04fire, 08holy++ | XP: 455 | Sz: Large | Int: brainless. 01:26:46 so that first attack 01:26:53 and speed....12? 01:26:55 still fast 01:26:59 since tentacles are 17 01:27:08 er 01:27:11 wrong hd 01:27:16 @??deep troll simulacrum hd:12 01:27:16 deep troll simulacrum (12Z) | Spd: 8 | HD: 12 | HP: 56-77 | AC/EV: 4/5 | Dam: 2112(cold:12-35), 1609(claw)12(cold:12-35), 1609(claw)12(cold:12-35) | 07undead, evil, unbreathing | Res: 06magic(16), 12cold+++, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 04fire, 08holy++ | XP: 184 | Sz: Large | Int: brainless. 01:27:19 !lg * ikiller~~dream-sheep 01:27:19 No games for * (ikiller~~dream-sheep). 01:27:23 !lg * ikiller~~dream_sheep 01:27:24 6. LogicNinja the Slasher (L5 DsGl of Trog), blasted by a dream sheep (exploding inner flame) on D:4 (kb_xom_exploding_sheep) on 2016-09-06 05:12:23, with 228 points after 2462 turns and 0:04:45. 01:27:29 ahaha 01:27:32 lol 01:27:33 the xom vault actually got someone 01:27:33 nice 01:27:41 look who it was... 01:27:47 i think it killed me the first time i ever saw it 01:27:57 possibly another time or two after that 01:27:59 !lg * ikiller~~dream_sheep -2 01:28:00 5/6. tjwn77 the Carver (L11 DsGl of Ashenzari), slain by a dream sheep on Lair:2 on 2016-09-05 21:29:41, with 12306 points after 11620 turns and 0:15:49. 01:28:09 !tv tjwn77 dsgl xl=11 01:28:10 prior to it having dream sheep though 01:28:10 48. tjwn77, XL11 DsGl, T:11620 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 01:28:25 playback failed, gg 01:28:27 !lg * lair current trunk status~~sleep 01:28:33 No games for * (lair current trunk status~~sleep). 01:28:34 oh right, can't die when asleep 01:28:38 that's a real shame 01:28:39 yeah, it wakes you up 01:28:40 then youd ie 01:28:45 could be resequenced? 01:28:45 you wake up dead! 01:28:53 maybe so, yeah 01:29:02 would be cool if it were 01:30:45 hahaha 01:30:45 #Oh worms! 01:30:45 for the comment on wormcave 01:31:00 heh 01:31:18 got to love those vaults with a one word name 01:31:34 i like how that vault somehow always knows which type of dragon i'd rather face less behind the runed door 01:31:40 lol 01:31:44 remember when it was a hidden door 01:31:45 especially the time i was stupid enough to use a stone of tremors near it 01:32:11 Traps & Doors . . . 01:32:19 i feel like i haven't seen wormcave in forever 01:32:32 i feel like i see it about every third time or so 01:32:33 I get it anecdotally 1 out of 4 endings 01:32:38 I've seen it, but there are more lair endings these past few versions 01:32:42 ??lairend 01:32:42 I don't have a page labeled lairend in my learndb. 01:32:49 !kw lair-end 01:32:50 Keyword: lair-end => lair kmap~~evil_forest|wormcave|jungle_book|caniform_friends|catoblepas_cave|lair_end|in_review|tendril_chambers|ancient_temple 01:33:15 I wonder how often in_review actually busts players 01:33:26 !lairendkills recentish 01:33:26 !lm * in_review !won 01:33:27 Lair End kills (recentish): 669x evil_forest (17.99%), 472x evilmike_catoblepas_cave (12.69%), 424x minmay_lair_end_enchanted_forest (11.40%), 413x hangedman_lair_tendril_chambers (11.11%), 386x grunt_lair_end_beastmaster (10.38%), 364x minmay_lair_end_frog_pond (9.79%), 327x guppyfry_lair_end_dragon (8.80%), 315x hangedman_lair_in_review (8.47%), 268x wormcave (7.21%), 67x gammafunk_lair_ancient_... 01:33:27 No keyword 'in_review' 01:33:37 not that high 01:33:43 8.47% is decent 01:33:50 of all lair kills 01:33:52 i feel like i haven't seen ancient templle in forever 01:34:08 ancient temple is new in trunk 01:34:14 no it's ancient 01:34:16 that would explain it 01:34:16 !lairendkills lairtemple 01:34:17 Lair End kills (lairtemple): 67x gammafunk_lair_ancient_temple (19.25%), 64x evil_forest (18.39%), 37x evilmike_catoblepas_cave (10.63%), 37x grunt_lair_end_beastmaster (10.63%), 29x wormcave (8.33%), 27x hangedman_lair_tendril_chambers (7.76%), 25x hangedman_lair_in_review (7.18%), 24x minmay_lair_end_frog_pond (6.90%), 19x guppyfry_lair_end_dragon (5.46%), 19x minmay_lair_end_enchanted_forest (5... 01:34:19 ancient..! 01:34:24 if you see it, you die! 01:34:31 ProzacElf, ancient_temple is the one with merfolk-avatar 01:34:32 oh, it's SUNKEN ancient temple 01:34:36 merfolk avatar is nasty 01:34:46 I like that one the best tbh 01:34:54 the combination of water, mez, and hard-hitting high tier beasts 01:34:57 is very interesting to deal with 01:34:58 it was inspired by things hangedman and grunt did 01:35:01 can't wait to have time to play online again and experience all these new vaults 01:35:06 sorry, r-i and grunt 01:35:10 for that matter dire elephant and sea snake are also nasty 01:35:16 so I basically combined oil and water to make that vault 01:35:24 regret-index, hangedman, tenofswords... strong theming going on there... 01:35:29 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 01:35:40 gammafunk: gotta add a kraken for the true oil and water mix! 01:35:45 hah 01:36:21 ink isn't really oil, is it? 01:36:21 nah 01:36:21 I feel like kraken code could be repurposed to other monsters 01:36:21 heh, no, i don't believe so 01:36:21 I envision a SotC 14 type monster 01:36:21 cloud serpent... 01:36:21 you mean like tentacled starspawn? 01:36:21 a what 01:36:21 or do you mean the ink part 01:36:28 i use 10-w-40 kraken ink in my car 01:36:41 -!- scotchmint has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:36:49 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:37:17 sorry, 13 not 14 01:37:51 alas, the primary constituent of cephalopod ink is melanin, apparently 01:38:09 also mucus! 01:38:28 so ink is just kraken sneezes 01:38:46 more or less 01:38:58 also makes the idea of squid ink risotto sound less appealing 01:39:02 haha 01:39:22 although i think i liked it enough in the past to overlook the mucus content 01:39:31 someone needs to add trilobites or other coll cambrian/pre-cambrian shit to crawl 01:39:36 s/coll/cool/ 01:39:45 thunder rod... 01:40:38 finally, it's time for horseshoe crabs to enter 01:41:57 a new enemy for shoals with a "tomahawk of returning" type ranged attack 01:43:13 horseshoe crabs are known for having one of the oldest eyes, evolutionarily speaking 01:43:47 my eyes are young and vigorous 01:44:07 _gastronok vigorously shakes its eyestalks. 01:44:12 well, people also use horseshoe crabs to study eyes 01:44:21 because for whatever reason the rods and cones are abnormally large 01:44:51 I wonder if complaints for new enemies would be lessened if they were crab flavoured 01:45:03 FR: hermit crabs 01:45:08 iron crabs, juggercrabs, caustic crabs... 01:45:11 they live in armor they find on the ground 01:45:13 yes 01:45:18 I was just about to write that 01:45:33 but! make them rare crabs that wear randart armour 01:45:41 heh 01:46:07 "did....did that crab kill a pearl dragon?" 01:46:13 -!- bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:46:16 "i dunno, but he's living in its skin!" 01:47:32 You see here a hermit crab wearing troll leather armor {Snorg} 01:47:56 don't fuck with that crab 01:48:26 indeed 01:48:27 -!- smee has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:48:39 causting crabs...people are finding subtle ways to bring back acid crabs, I see 01:48:48 *caustic 01:49:10 hunger crabs 01:49:45 because there weren't enough complaints about AF_HUNGER when it was on death cobs 01:50:28 what about feast crabs, stuff food in your mouth until to you explode 01:50:39 s/ to// 01:50:53 remeber the Feast card... 01:51:04 the crab throws a bread ration at you! You are engorged. 01:51:20 heh 01:51:54 ??feast card 01:51:54 feast card[1/1]: Makes you as engorged as you can possibly be. 01:51:59 ??famine card 01:52:00 famine card[1/1]: Sets you to halfway between starving and dead. Found in {deck of oddities} and {deck of punishment}. 01:52:16 wonder if that would have set you to Fainting 01:53:08 mmmm 01:53:08 deck of oddities 01:53:08 -!- HellTiger_NB has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:53:08 ??curse card 01:53:08 curse card[1/1]: Card from {deck of punishment}. By card power, 0: Curses one or two items. 1: Curse at least one item and a random number more, the average being 4. 2: Curses every item you've got, but may stop after each item if 1:1000 is rolled. 01:53:08 was that just a floor deck or what? i don't remember that one 01:53:08 that one was awful 01:53:25 oh, that's not even the version that destroyed your potions 01:53:30 hahaha 01:53:32 ouch 01:56:34 so, if I get monsters stuck in walls when spawning a vault in wizmode, is that due to the testing or did I screw up my vault? 01:56:37 did anything really inherit those effects that were tested as item destruction replacements? 01:56:52 like i guess engulf keeps you from using potions or scrolls 01:56:57 but "walking away" works for that 01:57:50 -!- VoxSomniator has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:58:45 ximxim_: using &P or &L? 01:58:45 &L 01:58:45 that's expected ya 01:58:45 &P is safer 01:58:45 alright, thanks :) 01:58:45 ProzacElf: engulf predates item destruction 01:58:54 it does? 01:58:55 i don't think anyone really ended up testing replacements for item destruction 01:59:03 there was just a lot of chatter about it that went nowhere 01:59:09 i thought there was an experimental branch 01:59:24 although i guess that was actually the experimental that just removed destruction 01:59:52 %git 806f4fe5a7f0687b314be53ec2b709e08c361b88 01:59:52 07DracoOmega02 * 0.14-a0-2180-g806f4fe: Rename AF_DROWN to AF_ENGULF 10(2 years, 8 months ago, 3 files, 4+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/806f4fe5a7f0 02:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:00:07 engulf dates to some time before this 02:00:17 heh, i'm spoiled by crawl. i find nethack and the variants practically unplayable. for many reasons, but item destruction is one of them 02:00:33 ah yes 02:00:35 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 02:00:39 -!- sinon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:00:47 %git 4412034ca0e58c61c99658f6d498f3415480dcfa 02:00:47 07gammafunk02 * 0.15-a0-1116-g4412034: Destroy item destruction 10(2 years, 3 months ago, 14 files, 32+ 260-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4412034ca0e5 02:01:22 heh, that somehow feels like it was longer ago than that 02:01:32 oh, i'm still scarred by this one 02:01:34 %git a8e5aaf0bc9397333ac1cb90a4c82246d9e45b64 02:01:34 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.16-a0-1309-ga8e5aaf: Freeze Cocytus solid 10(1 year, 11 months ago, 7 files, 55+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a8e5aaf0bc93 02:01:38 that lasted about five seconds 02:02:30 rip 02:02:30 rip 02:04:20 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 02:05:11 haha 02:06:05 yeah, iirc that one had been reverted around the time i heard about it in the first place 02:06:41 ...we support using ➹ for OBJ_MISSILES, in the rcfile 02:06:58 -!- muravey has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 02:07:02 why. 02:07:31 %git 4835408b6 02:07:31 07kilobyte02 * 0.11-a0-2338-g4835408: Unify and sanitize .rc parsing of item classes, allow adding rods to autopickup. 10(4 years, 3 months ago, 7 files, 85+ 74-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/4835408b6ab4 02:07:48 Just Because 02:08:20 mmm 02:10:31 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 48.0.1/20160817112116]] 02:13:26 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:14:17 -!- olscumpy has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:15:31 vaults entry vault 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10658 by ximxim 02:15:31 -!- mibert has joined ##crawl-dev 02:16:05 that vault 02:16:34 hah 02:19:58 -!- DDFi has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:22:14 ximxim_: recommend you put your vault in a text file and upload that file in the bug report 02:22:37 will do 02:22:44 there's an Upload File box you can use below the main section 02:23:26 "roughly inspired by the old days 02:23:27 of item destruction." 02:23:42 honestly, why didn't we put PleasingFungus on trial right then and there 02:24:42 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:25:08 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 02:26:43 throw the book at him 02:26:50 and then let destroy it with fire 02:27:25 I blame Sar, to be honest 02:29:58 -!- dtsund has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:30:33 clearly his fault 02:38:14 -!- jeefus has joined ##crawl-dev 02:42:15 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 02:42:19 -!- mibert has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 02:42:25 -!- jefus- has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:44:53 -!- Zekka_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:44:59 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:45:47 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:54:00 -!- ximxim_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:59:03 -!- Siegurt has joined ##crawl-dev 03:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:00:51 -!- muravey has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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[2016-09-06 02:50:09] koboldina the Skirmisher (L1 OgFi) began the quest for the Orb on turn 0. 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On average it increases the number of turns taken by about 0.9%, sometimes actually speeding it up slightly and sometimes increasing the turns taken by up to 5%, with pathological cases causing a 13% increase. 13:42:35 (it's off by default.) 13:42:40 high delta there 13:42:50 or sigma? 13:43:02 i'm just wondering, like: why do we expose this to players 13:43:09 why is this something that someone would want to toggle 13:43:30 ??rcfile 13:43:30 rcfile[1/4]: https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/docs/options_guide.txt 13:44:14 show_game_turns=false is something i imagine players who care about scoring would want 13:44:31 if on average it increases turns by 1%, with a ceiling of 5 to 13% increased, then that doesnt' seem very 'improved' to me 13:44:34 i really care not at all about game turns, and i care the tiniest bit about scoring turns 13:45:11 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:45:23 travel_open_doors = false is one that i could imagine turning on if i were particularly paranoid 13:47:45 oh cool spell_slot is an option I'll use from now on, I didn't know about that one 13:48:11 amalloy: ? 13:48:20 yeah, spell_slot is great 13:48:28 what are you asking about, PleasingFungus? 13:48:30 oh, it switches from displaying aut to player turns? 13:48:40 yes 13:48:50 that's badly named, imo 13:49:04 well the default is true 13:49:27 oh, this is just for %, not for the top-right? 13:49:42 for the top right i thought 13:49:43 but maybe not 13:54:33 top right certainly doesn't show turns by default 13:55:08 lol, yeah, it's just backwards 13:55:19 if it's set to *false*, the top-right displays player turns instead of aut 13:55:21 obviously 13:58:28 it claims that auts are "game turns" 13:58:35 since the game does things every aut 13:59:17 ... 14:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:01:46 -!- Netmonmatt has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:08:55 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 14:08:55 -!- chance672 has quit [Client Quit] 14:08:55 -!- smee has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:11:36 -!- chance672 has quit [Client Quit] 14:15:14 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 14:21:31 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 14:23:34 -!- Dracunos-m has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:25:03 -!- insecticide has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:32:16 -!- insecticide has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:36:53 -!- insecticide has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:38:08 -!- jefus- has joined ##crawl-dev 14:41:36 -!- jeefus has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:42:28 -!- nikheizen has joined ##crawl-dev 14:43:27 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 14:47:14 -!- Brannock_ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:49:41 -!- Zxpr1jk has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:50:18 -!- Brannock has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:56:49 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:00:20 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 15:01:14 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 15:01:14 -!- Brannock_ is now known as Brannock 15:04:49 MarvinPA, that's a good bug and I should have tested more than one manual 15:04:52 yeah, i only ran into it because i tested on an already-existing save where it didn't even work at all (since i guess i'd already identified some manual) 15:05:45 yeah, reproduced. time to figure out how to fix that 15:07:28 i'd suggest trying to find out how manuals are currently identified 15:07:38 knowing crawl, it's completely different from how books work... 15:07:51 I assumed (dangerous!) that since they were a subtype of books they' 15:07:55 d be identified in the same way 15:08:26 -!- Greenflame has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:18:15 wow i found an undocumented option and it's a good one 15:18:23 !source _prompt_stop_explore 15:18:24 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/travel.cc#L548 15:18:59 imagine how useful it'd be if every time you pickup a new scroll you get a y/n prompt to continue exploring 15:20:14 new speedrun tech?! 15:21:39 except you can already make it so that autoexplore just doesn't stop in the first place, let alone prompt :P 15:27:10 pf: please make it so whenever a player tries to unequip a *Fragile artefact, the artfact makes the console equivalent of puppy eyes 15:27:23 lol 15:27:32 don't leave. the drones need you. they depend on you. 15:29:47 I can't actually figure out how manual identification is handled 15:29:58 I think it identifies on pickup but I don't see explicit behavior for this 15:30:10 which is strange since nothing else is identified on pickup 15:30:13 afaik 15:30:27 books used to be, but the change to make books auto-ID doesn't seem to have touched that 15:30:31 wands 15:30:37 rings? 15:30:43 no, not rings 15:39:29 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 15:41:03 -!- nikheizen has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:44:04 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 15:44:05 okay I fixed it 15:44:14 going to thoroughly test this first 15:45:58 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:47:31 apparently if you identify one manual, it counts as "fully identified" when fully_identified is called on that manual, and 943 would return false and end the function 15:47:37 I'm not sure I fully understand what's going on here 15:48:11 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 15:48:33 -!- kdrnic has joined ##crawl-dev 15:54:56 03Brannock02 07https://github.com/crawl/crawl/pull/352 * 0.19-a0-1458-g52181cd: Auto-ID manuals the player steps on 10(18 hours ago, 1 file, 4+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/52181cd2a245 15:58:37 -!- Kranix has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 15:58:49 thank you 16:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:06:20 MarvinPA: just found another undocumented option 16:06:22 'fully_random' 16:06:44 nice 16:07:32 I think it's because manuals have a single base type, while books have a specified amount, so it went '1 out of 1, ok, don't need to ID this' 16:07:58 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 48.0.1/20160817112116]] 16:17:31 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 16:17:31 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:18:52 -!- Tiltorax has quit [Quit: bye!] 16:26:52 -!- Kuningaz45 is now known as Taraiph 16:36:33 -!- wheals_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:41:26 -!- nikheizen has joined ##crawl-dev 16:42:43 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:53:05 -!- Prozacelf has joined ##crawl-dev 16:54:19 -!- kdrnic has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:02:13 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 17:02:49 -!- olscumpy has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.5] 17:04:12 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:07:02 -!- Shinino has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:07:48 -!- Odds has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:09:59 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 17:14:23 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:19:48 -!- cait has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 17:20:51 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:22:08 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 17:23:41 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 17:29:29 -!- kdrnic has joined ##crawl-dev 17:32:41 -!- scotchmint has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:33:26 -!- smee has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:34:17 -!- pottsy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:36:05 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:40:07 !tell pleasingfungus related to fully_random, i found some documented but nonexistent options! good_random and random_pick, apparently gone since f7fe51cc8c50 17:40:08 MarvinPA: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 17:40:26 !tell pleasingfungus this is a terrifying rabbithole 17:40:26 MarvinPA: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 17:43:22 can you imagine if these options could be edited in-game 17:43:26 and how we'd have to group them all 17:43:36 I suppose they do already have groupings that we outline in the options guide 17:44:24 these options meaning "all the options in crawl", not the spooky ghost options 17:44:45 would be a good motivator to brutally remove more options! 17:44:50 true! 17:45:02 <|amethyst> just don't remove any options I use! 17:45:06 <|amethyst> unless you make them the default 17:45:11 <|amethyst> then you can remove the options :) 17:45:13 wow, also i highly recommend starting a game with fully_random set and seeing the results 17:45:22 what does it do? 17:45:50 well i think it's supposed to make it so that you automatically get a completely random character 17:46:53 hrm, doesn't seem to do that 17:46:53 but instead you get the normal race/class selection menu, and once you've picked it gives you the "You are a Human Fighter, continue?" prompt 17:46:53 for whatever it was you picked anyway 17:46:53 ah 17:46:58 yeah it's randomly picking a combo after you pick 17:47:01 I got HuBe 17:47:09 <|amethyst> ? 17:47:15 <|amethyst> for me it isn't randomly picking a combo 17:47:18 <|amethyst> it's taking the one I chose 17:47:23 yeah 17:47:25 <|amethyst> and prompting me if I want it 17:47:39 oh 17:47:41 <|amethyst> if I say no, it prompts me about the same combo (after rerolling all the random parts, of which there are none) 17:47:53 I guess yeah, I must have chosen hube 17:48:01 <|amethyst> I don't think this was actually intended to be an initfile option 17:48:24 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 17:48:26 it seems to kind of freeze after I hit n 17:48:27 <|amethyst> this is the logic used when you do ! or # 17:48:34 <|amethyst> gammafunk: it's re-prompting you 17:48:37 <|amethyst> gammafunk: q works 17:48:53 |amethyst: should i remove initfile support for it? 17:48:53 PleasingFungus: You have 5 messages. Use !messages to read them. 17:48:56 aaa 17:49:06 I see, it does nothing if you hit n 17:49:10 but if you hit enter, that's yes 17:49:14 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: yes, but double check that it still works from the prefs file 17:49:29 i don't know anything about the prefs file 17:49:30 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: I *think* this same code might be used for parsing the prefs file 17:49:37 yeah what is a prefs file 17:49:48 <|amethyst> when you pick a character and it remembers it for next time 17:50:03 <|amethyst> that's saved in .prf 17:50:08 ah 17:50:09 nice 17:50:15 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:50:25 !motto the more you know 17:50:25 TMYK! T-The! M-More! Y-You! K-Know! The More You Know! THE MORE YOU KNOW! 17:50:45 <|amethyst> I suspect that file is being parsed with the same parser as the initfile, in which case removing it here would make the prefs file setting not work 17:50:58 <|amethyst> in particular, that's the only instance I see of "fully_random" in quotes 17:51:05 yeah, looks like it 17:51:28 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.19-a0-1458-g40ef93d: Remove an undocumented option 10(2 hours ago, 4 files, 9+ 42-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/40ef93dfd5e7 17:51:28 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.19-a0-1459-g209f003: Undocument a removed option 10(85 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 13-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/209f00305e01 17:51:53 this is... inconvenient... 17:51:53 <|amethyst> so maybe it just needs a comment "prefs file only" 17:53:06 last time I went through gammafunk.rc, cross-referencing it with the current default options and MarvinPA.rc, I think I learned about 4-5 new options 17:53:06 wow 17:53:11 which I've promptly forgotten 17:53:17 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:53:22 MarvinPA: nice 1-2 17:53:29 |amethyst: i'm doing some refactoring that this doesn't trivially work with... 17:53:47 he cheated, since the second patch was only 85 seconds ago, what are these lies 17:54:31 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: because it's Options.game.blah instead of Options.blah ? 17:57:28 -!- insecticide2 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:58:03 03chequers02 07* 0.19-a0-1439-g1b4e872: Remove rough black scales mutation 10(19 hours ago, 5 files, 19+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1b4e87254192 17:58:03 03chequers02 07* 0.19-a0-1440-g78360a3: Shift large bone plates bonus to pure SH 10(19 hours ago, 2 files, 5+ 8-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/78360a35fdd0 17:58:03 03MarvinPA02 {GitHub} 07* 0.19-a0-1462-g5650605: Merge pull request #353 from alexjurkiewicz/scales-tweaks 10(16 seconds ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/56506059b869 17:59:14 -!- } has quit [] 18:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:01:17 |amethyst: no, because it doesn't get reset when the other options do 18:04:03 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 18:04:03 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: hm 18:04:21 -!- JimmahDean has quit [] 18:04:35 not gonna deal with it for now 18:05:02 <|amethyst> IMO .prf files shouldn't be able to hold arbitrary options anyway, so ultimately it should be split from initfile 18:05:05 yeah 18:07:39 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 18:08:17 hrm 18:09:40 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-1462-g5650605 (34) 18:15:20 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.19-a0-1462-g5650605 (34) 18:15:32 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:15:38 did you know: if you're a naga with your poison spit upgraded to poison breath, being in dragon form makes it easier to use successfully 18:16:19 huh 18:16:21 why? 18:16:55 it's in a list of breath abilities for draconians that get easier to use in dragon form, possibly left from when green dracs used to have actual poison breath 18:17:52 since being a green drac was the only non-naga way of having poison breath 18:19:32 nice 18:20:51 we don't have to TAG_MAJOR the entries in spl-data.h upon removal? 18:20:57 ah, there we go 18:21:03 I see you, Singularity 18:21:37 planning on bringing it back? 18:21:46 hardly! 18:21:52 I meant, as an example 18:34:22 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:35:01 mm 18:35:18 MarvinPA: want another good option? 18:35:25 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 18:35:28 definitely 18:35:47 show_waypoints 18:36:03 there is a specific reason why this one is good; you may want to check the code initfile.cc to see 18:36:29 *code in 18:36:31 hahah 18:36:37 excellent 18:36:38 clearly people used this one a lot... 18:36:47 %git 22b5b464d774cb78c9c5f43312213b2f134e5b0f 18:36:47 07MarvinPA02 * 0.10-a0-1543-g22b5b46: Option removal continued: colour_map, verbose_monster_pane, item_colour, easy_butcher 10(4 years, 10 months ago, 8 files, 34+ 88-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/22b5b464d774 18:37:35 easy_butcher... 18:37:35 it was vestigial even then, looks like 18:37:35 it had been for a long time i think, yeah 18:39:33 -!- Xjs|moonshine has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:39:33 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 18:43:15 just to check, does rpois have any effect on the strength of poison inflicted 18:43:53 i.e. does rpois reduce the amount of poison redbacks inflict assuming they hit the 33% chance to inflict poison through rpois 18:44:29 @??redback 18:44:29 redback (04s) | Spd: 15 | HD: 9 | HP: 22-32 | AC/EV: 2/12 | Dam: 1804(strong poison:33-58) | web sense | Res: 06magic(20) | Vul: 09poison | Chunks: 14noxious | XP: 220 | Sz: tiny | Int: animal. 18:46:09 -!- xyblor_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:47:15 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Quit: Excess flood] 18:47:27 -!- scummos__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:50:31 -!- xyblor___ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:50:46 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 18:52:34 http://dpaste.com/3GT0ZYG 18:52:53 Is that switch statement for _will_throw_ally() an ok way to do that? 18:53:02 extending that conditional seemed bad 18:53:28 better than extending the conditional, yeah 18:53:30 should be okay for now 18:53:41 if we add more things, we'd want some logic for it 18:56:48 background_color is another good option 18:57:06 *colour 18:57:27 -!- packet_loss has joined ##crawl-dev 18:57:54 -!- Dracunos has joined ##crawl-dev 18:58:21 what does that do? 18:58:39 set the console bg color to be something other than black? 18:59:10 -!- Dracunos-m has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:59:16 oh my god 18:59:55 i did background_colour = YELLOW and it was a terrible mistake 19:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:00:50 hah 19:02:49 I wonder how bad background_colour = BLUE 19:02:51 would be 19:03:19 since there are few blue enemies (which are already kind of hard to see on a black bg, so why not make them invisible) 19:03:30 challenge lair conduct: invisible black mambas 19:03:56 -!- nezrel has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:04:01 although maybe this only affects glyphs that are simply fully-black 19:04:04 bring back old shadows 19:04:20 were they nethack-style ghost glyphs? 19:04:48 I recall the default is just a black square 19:05:30 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Changing host] 19:05:30 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:07:03 -!- TuxQmoob has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:08:40 MarvinPA: i tried background_colour = RED and it was quite an experience 19:08:45 i love how janky the main menu looks 19:08:55 haha, yes 19:09:21 a good way to infuriate players would be to remove maybe 80% of these options 19:09:33 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:10:22 oh, it works in tiles? that's good 19:11:05 I tried a tiles option to bold text for text with light colors 19:11:05 wasn't super happy with the result though 19:11:05 I think it's the webtiles font, it looks less good compared to console 19:11:05 oh, no, i was in console for that 19:11:05 and there's not a way to change that font, I think 19:11:08 ah ok 19:11:11 i assumed it wouldn't work in tiles 19:11:26 clearly we need to extend that option to tiles! 19:12:26 -!- jetnerd has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:13:12 !source ouch.h:21 19:13:13 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/ouch.h#L21 19:13:51 I'm not sure how accurate this comment is, the part about never being able to remove kill_method_type enum vaules even upon save compat break 19:14:20 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:14:25 says that high score listings will break; is that parsing the logfile? 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PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 19:34:03 -!- xyblor has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:36:35 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 19:36:35 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 19:41:30 -!- ldf has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:42:09 friendly dryad cannot casting awaken forest with fedhas 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10660 by joy1999 19:43:14 lol 19:43:16 hm 19:43:19 i hope i didn't break that somehow 19:44:59 03gammafunk02 07* 0.19-a0-1467-g77de427: Replace Throw with Throw Ally on Iron Giants 10(65 minutes ago, 4 files, 16+ 235-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/77de427b8fd8 19:45:24 <|amethyst> hm 19:45:24 thanks MarvinPA 19:45:24 <|amethyst> is forest_awoken_until actually used anywhere? 19:45:24 gammafunk: i'm sure there will be a new worst draconian 19:45:30 %git edd18530d7d8ef185db2bb0a1bd6034400a9445e 19:45:30 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.19-a0-9-gedd1853: Let spriggan druids waste time on Fedhasites 10(4 months ago, 2 files, 20+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/edd18530d7d8 19:45:42 oops, that is my fault 19:45:46 chequers: no there won't be, that's the joke! 19:46:07 anyway: |amethyst: check out mons-cast.cc:7635 in that commit (idk where it is now) 19:46:23 not sure if it's used elsewhere 19:46:55 <|amethyst> oh, so it is only used to measure the timeout? 19:47:01 <|amethyst> what actually makes the forest hostile? 19:47:32 <|amethyst> oh, I see 19:47:39 <|amethyst> it happens when ENCH_AWAKEN_FOREST ticks down 19:48:20 <|amethyst> theoretically, this might work for allies 19:48:34 !tell gammafunk elf-licker.tumblr.com 19:48:34 minmay: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 19:48:35 <|amethyst> because the code in forest_damage checks alignment 19:48:36 <|amethyst> but 19:48:42 <|amethyst> the messages would be wrong 19:48:51 <|amethyst> or at least questionable 19:49:41 <|amethyst> (and there's also the question of whether an allied SpDr should be able to block enemies from using the spell 19:49:44 <|amethyst> ) 19:51:13 <|amethyst> but I guess simplest solution is status quo ante for allies, making _ms_waste_of_time check || you_worship(GOD_FEDHAS) && mon->wont_attack() 19:51:58 a rabid elf-licker is even worse 19:51:59 gammafunk: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 19:52:11 <|amethyst> Na na na na, licker of elves 19:52:40 <|amethyst> On high seas in search of / The sickly sweet milk of selfish love / And tongue these for warm fresh blood 19:53:08 <|amethyst> ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0dXyY-VFsA ) 19:56:43 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:58:04 -!- xyblor_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:59:15 elfish love, surely 20:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:00:08 -!- packet_loss has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:00:41 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:02:55 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:08:05 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 20:09:03 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-1467-g77de427 (34) 20:12:33 -!- duralumin has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:12:39 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:22:09 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 20:23:39 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:25:32 -!- aditya has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:26:47 -!- kramin has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:27:45 -!- ChongLi has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:30:00 autoexplore crash 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10661 by KoboldLord 20:33:02 !lm koboldlord x=src 20:33:03 No milestones for koboldlord. 20:33:34 poor amalloy is racking up the crash reports here 20:33:52 -!- aditya has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:35:33 -!- xyblor has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:36:51 -!- xyblor___ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:36:53 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 20:37:36 tropies to adorn my cabin wall 20:38:00 -!- kramin has joined ##crawl-dev 20:39:05 -!- Ququman has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:52:16 -!- ProzacElf_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:52:54 -!- Prozacelf has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- It'll be on slashdot one day...] 20:53:11 cojito (L15 DsBe) (Lair:2) 20:53:16 |amethyst: do you feel like helping with c++ templates? 20:53:21 !crashlog cojito 20:53:21 2. cojito, XL15 DsBe, T:29486 (milestone): http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/cojito/crash-cojito-20160907-005301.txt 20:53:31 cojito (L15 DsBe) (Lair:2) 20:53:37 hrm 20:53:55 cojito (L15 DsBe) (Lair:2) 20:54:10 !source player::update_beholder 20:54:10 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/behold.cc#L220 20:54:46 !lm cojito x=src 20:54:47 10810. [2016-09-07 00:53:44] [src=cbro] cojito the Brawler (L15 DsBe of Trog) (Lair:2) 20:56:14 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: in a minute 20:56:20 sure, no rush 21:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:00:08 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:02:39 <|amethyst> back, 'sup? 21:03:28 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:05:29 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-1468-ge013c26: Fix nil beholder removal crash (cojito) 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 7+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e013c26e71bb 21:05:53 i'm having issues making a template class. let me get a diff up somewhere 21:07:45 |amethyst: http://sprunge.us/cVJM this guy 21:07:47 let me get the errors 21:08:12 -!- aditya has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:08:28 oh, should T be class instead of a typename...? or the other way? 21:08:32 i seem to be inconsistent 21:08:38 <|amethyst> either works 21:08:52 <|amethyst> for one, your method definitions also need "template" 21:09:00 ok 21:09:03 <|amethyst> template 21:09:13 <|amethyst> void ListGameOption::reset() ... 21:09:14 <|amethyst> also 21:09:19 <|amethyst> they need to be in the header 21:09:28 <|amethyst> so might as well make them inline 21:09:33 have to be defined in the header...? 21:09:39 bleh 21:09:52 <|amethyst> yes, templates don't actually generate code until you instantiate them 21:10:12 <|amethyst> also, in loadFromString: 21:10:19 <|amethyst> new_entries.push_back(part); 21:11:27 <|amethyst> since "part" is a const string & and new_entries a vector, that only works if string can be implicit converted to T 21:11:27 there's a note there! at the top 21:11:27 we seem to only be using text_pattern and string 21:11:27 possibly we could just use one consistently and ditch the template 21:11:46 <|amethyst> ah, I see it 21:11:55 <|amethyst> I was going to say, you can make it support int etc 21:12:01 <|amethyst> by using an istringstream 21:12:09 <|amethyst> but that probably wouldn't work with textpattern 21:12:24 i know nothing about textpattern 21:13:32 <|amethyst> err, text_pattern rather... it's a class that wraps a regexp 21:13:55 hrm 21:14:02 i wonder if we could just replace our uses of string with that 21:14:06 in this context 21:14:11 <|amethyst> ? 21:14:14 <|amethyst> for all options? 21:14:22 for all three relevant options, yes 21:15:25 <|amethyst> which three? 21:15:44 <|amethyst> there are plenty of list options that aren't regexps 21:17:01 you will see.......... 21:17:01 ha! ha! ha! ha! 21:17:03 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:17:05 ??enchant weapon 21:17:05 enchant weapon[1/2]: Increases your wielded weapon's enchantment by +1 and uncurses it if you are not with Ashenzari. You can't enchant artifacts, but you can still uncurse them. 21:17:45 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: also, do you actually use "convertible to a string"? 21:17:45 !learn edit s/ and[^.]+// 21:17:45 Syntax is: !learn edit TERM[NUM] s/// 21:17:52 !learn edit enchant_weapon s/ and[^.]+// 21:17:52 Use: !learn edit enchant_weapon[NUM] s/// 21:17:53 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: because text_pattern is not 21:17:59 !learn edit enchant_weapon[1] s/ and[^.]+// 21:17:59 enchant weapon[1/2]: Increases your wielded weapon's enchantment by +1. You can't enchant artifacts, but you can still uncurse them. 21:18:06 er 21:18:08 !learn set enchant_weapon[1] Increases a weapon's enchantment by +1. You can't enchant artefacts. 21:18:09 enchant weapon[1/2]: Increases a weapon's enchantment by +1. You can't enchant artefacts. 21:18:14 yeah thanks 21:18:17 it's no longer your wielded weapon 21:18:17 |amethyst: oh, that might've been a typo in the old comment 21:18:33 "// T must be convertible to from a string." 21:18:37 ??enchant_weapon[2 21:18:37 enchant weapon[2/2]: Generated items have different limits: base max is 8, +3 Oka hit/Trog dam, +4 no brand. Artefacts: +12 base, +3 Oka hit/Trog dam. 21:18:39 I assumed there was a missing 'or' 21:18:51 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: (convertible to) from a string 21:19:05 <|amethyst> probably "convertible from" would be better 21:19:27 not sure if those limits are accurate, but obviouls the "dam" isn't needed 21:19:42 *obviously 21:19:46 dam! 21:19:51 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: also, you might consider using emplace_back instead of push_back, and two lines above writing remove_matching(value_list, T(part)); 21:20:06 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: that way it will work with things where the (string) constructor is explicit 21:20:15 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: OTOH, maybe it's better to only do implicit conversions 21:20:36 idk 21:20:39 however, it's compiling, so i'm happy 21:20:52 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 21:21:18 <|amethyst> also, I like the stuff I'm seeing in the context lines, and approve wholeheartedly 21:21:21 heh 21:21:35 New branch created: option_select (8 commits) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/tree/option_select 21:21:36 03PleasingFungus02 07[option_select] * 0.19-a0-1469-g0e2b14f: Add game-options file 10(9 hours ago, 5 files, 22+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0e2b14f501bb 21:21:36 03PleasingFungus02 07[option_select] * 0.19-a0-1470-g86b4e55: Refactor simple boolean initfile options 10(7 hours ago, 4 files, 286+ 229-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/86b4e55669e9 21:21:36 03PleasingFungus02 07[option_select] * 0.19-a0-1471-g24eed47: Support bool options with multiple names 10(3 hours ago, 3 files, 153+ 201-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/24eed4723ac5 21:21:36 03PleasingFungus02 07[option_select] * 0.19-a0-1472-g7286511: Move most colour options into data 10(2 hours ago, 4 files, 55+ 32-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/7286511ef15f 21:21:36 03PleasingFungus02 07[option_select] * 0.19-a0-1473-g69c6bd8: Move curses 'brand' options into data 10(2 hours ago, 3 files, 68+ 61-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/69c6bd87d52a 21:21:36 03PleasingFungus02 07[option_select] * 0.19-a0-1474-g76caf4d: Squashme: fix bool mlist_targeting option 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 4-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/76caf4df829d 21:21:36 03PleasingFungus02 07[option_select] * 0.19-a0-1475-g182c80d: Move int options into data 10(2 hours ago, 3 files, 68+ 84-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/182c80d74b63 21:21:36 03PleasingFungus02 07[option_select] * 0.19-a0-1476-g0bd042f: Move simple list options into data 10(29 seconds ago, 3 files, 95+ 88-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/0bd042f2cc80 21:21:57 unrelated, but you may be amused by this: 21:21:57 i'm talking to crashing cojito 21:22:00 <|amethyst> I wonder if it would be possible to have IntOption be GameOption 21:22:03 <|amethyst> etc 21:22:36 <|amethyst> by using istringstream and either >> or istream_iterator 21:22:40 fuck, forgot the squashme... 21:23:24 anyway, cojito said that his mesm crash is the first time he's encountered a bug in crawl 21:23:28 then he corrected himself 21:23:30 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.19-a0-1468-ge013c26 (34) 21:23:33 can you guess what the other bug he remembered is 21:24:04 <|amethyst> hm 21:24:24 <|amethyst> you're mentioning it to me, so double damage or uberoctopode? 21:24:31 yep. meleebug, baby 21:24:34 <|amethyst> heh 21:25:59 i really wonder if anyone uses those curses 'brand' options 21:26:06 i guess people might... 21:26:45 <|amethyst> I use friend_brand = reverse 21:27:30 <|amethyst> locally anyway 21:27:42 <|amethyst> I do notice that the neutral_brand option documentatin seems wrong 21:27:47 mm? 21:27:51 <|amethyst> neutral_brand = hi:lightgrey 21:27:56 <|amethyst> The default setting shows neutrals with a dark grey background. 21:28:13 i love the sentence after that 21:28:25 god, the writing here is great 21:28:29 look at the description of stab_Brand 21:28:39 this is halfway between an options guide and a tutorial... 21:30:10 -!- koboldina has joined ##crawl-dev 21:30:30 <|amethyst> probably "bold" brand should be removed 21:30:44 since it conflicts with colors? 21:30:55 <|amethyst> yes, and since we don't really support 8-colour 21:31:36 <|amethyst> dim -- probably no effect 21:32:12 lol 21:32:17 <|amethyst> not sure what terminals support that 21:32:19 <|amethyst> there are some 21:33:04 oh, were you here when i was complaining about/observing item_class_by_sym 21:33:05 <|amethyst> no, but that looks like an amazing function 21:33:12 <|amethyst> case 0x27b9: // ➹ 21:33:45 ya 21:33:47 that one is my favorite 21:33:53 <|amethyst> I am going to change my autopickup option now 21:33:57 lmao 21:34:09 also i appreciate that it has all of those currency symbols and so on 21:34:19 but not: the current glyph for corpses 21:34:43 I used 0 for a while 21:34:53 current one is cool tho 21:35:48 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:36:08 -!- Netmonmatt has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 21:36:21 -!- Poncheis has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 48.0.2/20160823121617]] 21:36:52 <|amethyst> but 0 means the orb 21:37:21 <|amethyst> oh, you can also type these at the wizmode &o menu 21:37:22 yes, and the orb is also a corpse...the rotting, dead husk of the roguelike genre 21:37:29 !!! 21:37:42 did not know about that wizmode shortcut, that's funny 21:38:41 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 21:38:41 I mapped the orb to the pound sign, or something, but I use the new default glyphs now 21:38:41 I think the only ones I have are * -> bigger unicode version and dancing weapons to } 21:38:50 -!- squidcat has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:39:32 "_It would be a sin to butcher this!" when trying to butcher ogre corpse as ogre & worshipping tso - I thought you could butcher stuff and break conduct on purpose and eat penance if you wanted to? 21:39:32 koboldina: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 21:39:44 <|amethyst> gammafunk the Hellbinder, slain by an iron rune of Zot 21:39:54 er 21:39:57 did I get that wrong 21:40:03 @??dancing weapon 21:40:04 dancing weapon (15() | Spd: 12-18 | HD: 15 | HP: 22-34 | AC/EV: 11/18 | Dam: 26 | 11non-living, fighter, fly, unbreathing | Res: 13magic(immune), 05fire++, 02cold++, 11elec+++, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | XP: 881 | Sz: small | Int: brainless. 21:40:07 yeah ok, to { 21:40:12 <|amethyst> :q 21:40:24 what kind of smiley is that?! 21:40:41 oh I see it 21:40:51 koboldina: you could 21:40:53 now you can't 21:40:56 =p is what I'm used to 21:40:59 oh ok 21:41:08 it's hard to be good... 21:41:14 <|amethyst> gammafunk: it is the "I tried to quit vi in the wrong window" smiley :) 21:41:14 :q is what you use when you're hungry... 21:41:16 but you've gotta try!!!! 21:41:48 |amethyst: another quick vim q, do you use vim --remote? 21:41:52 to open files 21:42:00 I'm using gvim, actually 21:42:10 but I end up with a lot of windows 21:42:16 applications windows, that is 21:42:34 <|amethyst> I don't use it myself, but I have looked into it at least 21:43:01 well, I'll do some googling about that; I keep forgetting I have a file already open and trying to reopen it 21:43:14 and then vim complains about the swap file 21:44:16 <|amethyst> yeah, gvim --remote handles that 21:44:16 fwiw i just open my files from within emacs, instead of starting a new editor session from the console 21:44:44 amalloy: well I can open files from within vim as well, but often console is faster 21:45:08 even with the directory browser, sometimes it's just more convenient to use console 21:45:41 not being stuck using either normal emacs term nor ansi-term is great 21:45:54 I love a lot of things that emacs enabled, it's just a shame that so many of them are buggy 21:45:54 just read the recent commits, except a robin x iron giant splash screen in the future 21:46:06 don't ship that! 21:46:11 <|amethyst> amalloy: you can also do what gammafunk is talking about in emacs, using emacsclient 21:46:16 yeah i know 21:46:32 though you have to have started your main emacs session with emacs --server 21:46:51 or no, i guess you can start it mid-session too somehow or other 21:46:59 <|amethyst> right, but that's a one-line change to your .xinitrc or your .bashrc 21:47:08 M-x server-start 21:47:13 <|amethyst> since presumably, as an emacs user, you run emacs the first thing when you log in 21:47:25 <|amethyst> a/the fi/as &/ 21:47:53 <|amethyst> okay, maybe 'exec emacs' at the end of .bashrc might be a little much 21:48:04 <|amethyst> but .profile, or making it your login shell, seems perfectly reasonable 21:48:16 I always just clicked the launcher in unity 21:48:21 because terminals are for nerds. 21:48:27 https://github.com/amalloy/dotfiles/blob/master/.emacs#L112-L117 is how i show my devotion 21:48:39 but now I do my shell with tmux, so I'm in a legit console more often 21:48:45 <|amethyst> amalloy: ha 21:49:50 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 21:49:50 The build has errored. (master - e013c26 #6596 : Nicholas Feinberg): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/158048325 21:49:50 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 21:49:50 someone broke the repository again! 21:50:35 not me! not me 21:51:12 trashvis can't connect to repositories again 21:51:14 "!?/%=([)x}:|\\" 21:51:20 sorry, i should watch my language... 21:51:38 its network connectivity's almost as good as mine >.> 21:51:54 (ref: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8376576/screenshotF-20160508T000724.png) 21:52:23 does that spell out a hidden message? 21:52:24 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:52:35 "K-I-L-L M-E" 21:52:45 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: IMO replace ( with ➹ there, but to avoid potential compatibility issues, manually encode the UTF-8-encoded bytes in octal 21:52:45 wish it spelled out how to get on a network that doesn't suck... 21:53:53 03PleasingFungus02 07[option_select] * 0.19-a0-1477-g2d7813e: Move simple string options into data 10(26 seconds ago, 3 files, 49+ 60-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2d7813e73828 21:54:14 lol 21:54:14 <|amethyst> wait, do you own a motel? 21:54:14 no, just staying at one while trying to rebuild war chest so I can get an apt 21:54:18 -!- debo_ has joined ##crawl-dev 21:54:25 <|amethyst> and you have a subdomain devoted to "me when I'm in a motel" 21:54:28 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:54:28 <|amethyst> that's dedication 21:54:49 no, that's the motel's fault. the second hop's the guest network; the third's the internal network 21:55:09 <|amethyst> aha 21:55:19 <|amethyst> and this is a local-only DNS entry 21:55:23 yep 21:55:25 -!- Dracunos7 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:55:56 <|amethyst> I think I see the problem 21:56:00 also it pings out because I am routing IRC to a cellmodem because it won't even connect half the time from the motel network, and the IP addr ranges conflict 21:56:04 <|amethyst> your uplink is a McDonald's hamburger 21:56:08 so it only shows up when I drop the cellmodem 21:56:09 <|amethyst> mcdnohbg03h 21:56:21 <|amethyst> should upgrade that to a whopper 21:56:32 <|amethyst> or at least a big mac 21:58:27 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:59:03 <|amethyst> (I'm trying to figure out what the letter between the three-letter city name and the two-letter state name, or the two letters after the state name, is supposed to signify 21:59:06 <|amethyst> ) 22:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:00:08 macedonia, ohio; dunno what bg03h indicates 22:00:37 border gateway 3h? 22:01:41 <|amethyst> ah, so that fourth letter is part of the city code, so them I wonder what "chctil" is when "chcgil" is next-door 22:01:52 <|amethyst> perhaps I should be asking TWC or whoever 22:03:22 -!- debo_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:03:50 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 22:05:38 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 22:06:49 probably. I figured it was a suburb feeder 22:07:03 <|amethyst> yeah 22:07:28 <|amethyst> I see a few hops out from me "lsvmkyzo01r", which I guess is Louisville Metro or something 22:09:03 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-1468-ge013c26 (34) 22:10:57 -!- packet_loss has joined ##crawl-dev 22:12:21 my last 5 are by01h, fwiw 22:14:08 wow, macdonalds USA has whoppers? 22:14:16 here they are a hungry jacks aka burger king thing 22:14:20 <|amethyst> chequers: no, that's why it's an upgrade 22:14:31 :) 22:14:43 i had an american meal last night 22:14:49 rack of pork ribs + a steak 22:15:24 i had an australian meal last night. i didn't heat up my noodles =p 22:16:32 -!- Dracunos-m has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:16:33 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 22:16:34 The build has errored. (option_select - 0bd042f #6597 : Nicholas Feinberg): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/158050087 22:16:35 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 22:16:35 <|amethyst> I had some korean cabbage pancake things, some naan, and a vegetarian fake italian sausage 22:16:40 <|amethyst> was very multicultural 22:17:00 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:17:56 lol....hungry jack 22:17:56 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 22:18:16 <|amethyst> Quick quiz for the Americans: 22:18:24 <|amethyst> "Bring out the _____ and bring out the best." 22:18:27 <|amethyst> fill in the blank 22:18:30 -!- nikheizen has joined ##crawl-dev 22:18:32 -!- Tickenest has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:19:00 ? 22:19:05 i never heard that 22:19:16 <|amethyst> mayonnaise ad 22:19:26 wurst 22:19:39 I've heard that ad, but I still forget the name 22:19:54 <|amethyst> it depends on which side of the continental divide you're on 22:20:01 i can prove i'm american, because i didn't know that miracle whip wasn't mayo until i was like 15 22:20:04 i feel like i must have heard that ad when i was a little kid, but really i think |amethyst just inserted a false memory 22:20:06 =p 22:20:14 -!- Jafet has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:20:32 <|amethyst> in the east it's "Hellman's", in the west "Best Foods" 22:20:39 <|amethyst> s/man's/mann's/ 22:20:53 oh, i guess i did hear that ad once upon a time 22:22:06 I think I only ever heard Hellmans 22:22:09 pretty sure I've never heard the "Best Foods" version, at least 22:22:32 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 22:22:53 i had never seen japanese language television until i spent a week in san diego 22:23:09 but yeah, i had also only heard hellmann's 22:23:40 i've heard best foods 22:23:48 over here in CA 22:25:56 california has all sorts of weird brands 22:26:20 when's the RL conf? 22:28:55 sat sept 17 https://www.eventbrite.com/e/roguelike-celebration-tickets-26125753833 22:29:15 it's not a conference, it's a ~CeLeBrAtIon~ 22:29:43 i am acquianted with like half the people on this list 22:29:56 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GwjfUFyY6M 22:30:03 acquainted* 22:30:52 kingdom of loathing counts as a roguelike? 22:30:55 is that a san fran thing or a roguelike thing 22:31:15 -!- koboldina has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:31:28 ProzacElf_: it certainly has Roguelike Elements (tm) 22:31:33 although i guess this must be a tiny community 22:31:39 though admittedly 22:31:40 onto means that about half have restraining orders against him 22:31:44 that describes like 95% of games now 22:31:48 dare not speak of rogue taxonomy lest you disturb the elder gods 22:31:51 because even though i don't know anyone personally, i have spoken to about half of these people online 22:32:21 I have vodoo dolls for each of them 22:32:32 *voodoo 22:33:16 see, your voodoo doll for me doesn't work because you haven't met me personally =p 22:33:16 Why would a make a voodoo doll for a player 22:33:23 ProzacElf_: i made a roguelike with a guy who made a roguelike with a guy who made a roguelike with kevin bacon 22:33:47 ITYM erdos 22:34:33 gammafunk: i just assumed it was your personal hatred for me =D 22:35:04 erdos's roguelikes are just his open graph theory problems 22:35:24 godel's roguelike 22:35:26 no, players aren't worthy of my contempt 22:35:28 erdos's roguelike was just his life 22:35:56 <|amethyst> that orc should be dual-wielding daggers 22:36:01 wander around randomly, picking up a weird skillset and accomplishing seemingly unconnected but extremely impressive tasks 22:36:21 <|amethyst> ontoclasm: take amphetamines to gain levels! 22:36:42 erdos was probably exploring manually, but optimally, if he was a good player 22:36:45 if erdos was a dcss player would his morgue have all skills under 13 and 15 runes? 22:36:46 doubt it was random 22:37:32 he'd have a lot of banners I suppose 22:38:52 is yermak... erdos...??? 22:39:28 honestly that's a pretty close comparison 22:39:41 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:41:01 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 22:41:02 The build failed. (option_select - 2d7813e #6598 : Nicholas Feinberg): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/158053525 22:41:02 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 22:41:45 oh, that's a legit build error 22:41:52 was that already fixed? 22:42:19 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:42:22 well, PF will see it eventually 22:48:26 -!- Limulus has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:49:16 -!- packet_loss has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:55:49 <|amethyst> hmm 22:55:56 <|amethyst> +static string _get_tmp_path_base() 22:55:57 <|amethyst> +{ 22:55:57 <|amethyst> + return _user_home_subpath("Library/Application Support/" CRAWL); 22:55:57 <|amethyst> +} 22:56:32 <|amethyst> pretty sure that won't work on most OSes 22:56:39 ummmm 22:56:44 <|amethyst> or I guess it will 22:57:13 <|amethyst> but nonetheless probably should not have escaped the #if defined(TARGET_OS_MACOSX) 23:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:01:06 -!- illusionary has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 23:01:45 <|amethyst> !tell PleasingFungus _get_user_home_subpath looks kind of Mac OS-specific; _user_home_subpath isn't available in dgamelaunch mode, game-options.cc needs to #include "options.h", and the new .cc needs to be added to android-project/jni/src/Android.mk 23:01:45 |amethyst: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 23:08:09 -!- GoblinBomb has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:08:56 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 23:10:22 complaints, complaints... 23:10:22 PleasingFungus: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 23:11:11 ^ 23:12:17 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: Reality is an illusion, the universe is a hologram, buy gold, BYE] 23:16:00 |amethyst: http://sprunge.us/EFIO ? 23:16:31 idk how resolve_dir works with the extra slash 23:19:05 <|amethyst> catpath adds it if missing 23:19:27 ah, so should be no difference? 23:19:38 -!- kdrnic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:19:43 <|amethyst> if you're using _resolve_dir, yes 23:19:55 <|amethyst> return _user_home_subpath("Library/Application Support/" CRAWL) + subdir; might be problematic? 23:20:21 <|amethyst> ah, no, you always pass something starting with a slash 23:21:41 <|amethyst> I have no idea why all this stuff is so different on OS X builds 23:21:59 <|amethyst> it seems like you could make crawl_dir = ~/Library/Application Support/ or such 23:22:04 probably! 23:22:28 <|amethyst> it looks like in current trunk, dgl mode wouldn't work on a mac? 23:22:42 <|amethyst> also in this version, but it's not a regression 23:24:41 <|amethyst> because the _user_home_subpath("Library/Application Support/" CRAWL) is inside only #if defined(TARGET_OS_MACOSX), but _user_home_subpath is only available if !defined(DGAMELAUNCH) 23:25:28 <|amethyst> could maybe make that #if defined(TARGET_OS_MACOSX) && !defined(DGAMELAUNCH) since I think a mac dgl build would want to use crawl_dir and not ~/Library/etc 23:26:09 <|amethyst> but I'm sure there's more than that that would break a mac USE_DGAMELAUNCH build 23:27:06 heh 23:27:10 one step at a time, surely? 23:27:26 just to check 23:27:32 does rPois reduce actual poisoning strength 23:27:42 i.e. if the 66% chance to avoid it falls through 23:30:04 i believe the answer is no, but i'm very lazy 23:31:18 (unrelated, I am starting to doubt whether rcorr actually works on entropy weavers) 23:32:11 <|amethyst> it looks like it does for poison arrow, except that doesn't have the 2/3 chance anyway, so I guess that doesn't count 23:32:47 <|amethyst> for parrow resistance divides the poison amount by 2 rather than giving a chance of no poisoning 23:32:50 I was referring to spider bites or the like 23:33:09 i am almost certain rpois doesn't reduce the amount of poison damage you as a player take 23:33:16 no idea how it works on monsters 23:33:42 because if the poison from a very ugly green thing goes through you'll immediately have lethal if you're a sp or fe 23:34:34 @??very ugly green thing 23:34:34 unknown monster: "very ugly green thing" 23:34:34 @??green very ugly thing 23:34:34 green very ugly thing (09u) | Spd: 10 (move: 90%) | HD: 18 | HP: 87-115 | AC/EV: 6/10 | Dam: 2709(claw)04(strong poison:66-117) | 10doors | Res: 06magic(40), 03poison++ | Vul: 11silver | Chunks: 06mutagenic | XP: 1433 | Sz: Large | Int: animal. 23:34:41 "very green ugly thing" 23:34:44 * ProzacElf_ shrugs 23:35:19 thingly very ugly green 23:35:34 very grugly thing 23:35:39 yes! 23:35:53 -!- packet_loss has joined ##crawl-dev 23:38:58 <|amethyst> I don't see anything that would make it not work 23:39:50 sweet 23:41:50 crawl_dir = ~/.Trash/Empty Trash // XXX - Myabe also move other OS X applications here? 23:42:19 rest in pizza 23:43:49 -!- nikheizen has quit [Quit: leaving] 23:46:11 03PleasingFungus02 07[option_select] * 0.19-a0-1478-gb77359d: Fix non-OS X builds (|amethyst) 10(11 minutes ago, 3 files, 12+ 10-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b77359d425dd 23:46:11 03PleasingFungus02 07[option_select] * 0.19-a0-1479-g5784489: Move more int options into data 10(11 minutes ago, 1 file, 6+ 66-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/57844895e4b6 23:46:11 03PleasingFungus02 07[option_select] * 0.19-a0-1480-gcc2d6be: Remove another unsettable option 10(9 minutes ago, 3 files, 1+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/cc2d6beaebd2 23:46:11 03PleasingFungus02 07[option_select] * 0.19-a0-1481-g458ec7f: Move pizzas into data 10(32 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 9-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/458ec7f47ee1 23:49:48 ob http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=27890 re monster search >.> 23:50:14 -!- ProzacElf_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:50:55 <|amethyst> geekosaur: I was going to point to the BBC article 23:50:57 <|amethyst> but 23:51:06 <|amethyst> it looks like PF has already been there? 23:52:06 !!! 23:52:06 <|amethyst> or has an evil twin anyway 23:52:06 i emailed him but i didn't get a reply 23:52:06 <|amethyst> haha 23:52:06 i assumed it vanished into the void... 23:52:54 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:53:45 There's certainly a literature on such things — you could take a look at Richard Sproat and Chi-lin Shih, "The Cross-Linguistic Distribution of Adjective Ordering Restrictions", except for the fact that Springer wants to charge you a bit more than a dollar a page to read it. 23:56:06 heh, one of the things he lists cites "mick jagger and the rolling stones" as an example of a phrase with fixed word order 23:57:42 <|amethyst> hm, what does that marginal annotation say? 23:57:44 persons or persons unknown 23:57:47 <|amethyst> "import to person or persons unknown"? 23:58:10 not sure about the first word 23:58:20 could be "expand" 23:58:29 -!- packet_loss has quit [Remote host closed the connection]