00:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:02:31 -!- mibe_ is now known as mibe 00:03:20 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 00:06:12 pfft 00:06:19 -!- Brannock has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:06:19 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:06:21 I'd like to see you win desolation of salt with a qazlal ogre in a robe 00:06:25 at xl16 00:07:03 xl15 actually 00:07:03 I gained a level in there 00:07:03 -!- Brannock has joined ##crawl-dev 00:07:03 You just needed more consumables 00:07:03 And you would have been good 00:07:03 I should have dug out a killhole probably 00:07:03 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:07:06 or just turned 360 degrees and moonwalked away 00:07:06 dig... salt...??? 00:07:07 koboldina: I would 00:07:16 wait hold on I should throw a fit about this right 00:07:17 yeah walking away is pro strats 00:07:21 -!- Harudoku has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:07:21 I'm only playing my special version of crawl with no salt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 00:07:35 i demand you remove this, preferably tomorrow 00:07:37 I just wouldn't play like a bat out of hell! 00:07:45 it killed me so i'm quitting crawl 00:07:47 or like a kobold bat out of kobold hell, I guess 00:07:55 !banish Doesnty reddit 00:07:56 amalloy casts a spell. Doesnty reddit is cast into the Abyss! 00:07:56 I only listen to meatloaf while playing crawl 00:08:02 oops 00:08:05 rip. i hoped it would banish you to reddit 00:08:05 lol 00:08:17 you can use some weird space to make it work 00:08:18 don't send him there I'm about to write a post and he'll land on it 00:08:30 !cmd !banish 00:08:30 Command: !banish => .echo $nick casts a spell. ${*:-Everyone} is cast into $(=badplace)! 00:08:33 i'm already there to see how badly i misquoted the guy 00:08:39 ah, you can't control badplace 00:08:42 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 00:08:46 !lg * salt s=name 00:08:47 27 games for * (salt): 3x 4thArraOfDagon, 2x Amnesiac, PeterLawrence, jestert79, jumbajumba, TySteely, SirSamVimes, chequers, fantismo, nublet, rogsnak, Witty, Lasiace, herbaltea, alcopop, Torious, coal, DocEon, Protee, Shandreya, rlgrobin, koboldina, eragonby, CypherZel 00:08:47 we need a generalized banish 00:08:53 good old 4tharra 00:08:56 wow, 4tharra... 00:09:08 Gotta Go Fast 00:09:13 !lm * br.enter=desolation 00:09:14 151. [2016-08-30 03:36:47] arn the Pyromancer (L20 DrCj of Vehumet) entered the Desolation of Salt on turn 45333. (Elf:1) 00:09:16 he wan a low 40s usk win that I've been studying 00:09:19 !locate 4tharraofdagon 00:09:20 *won 00:09:26 !cmd !banish .echo $nick casts a spell. ${1:-Everyone} is cast into ${2:-$(=badplace))! 00:09:26 he's always cxc 00:09:27 Redefined command: !banish => .echo $nick casts a spell. ${1:-Everyone} is cast into ${2:-$(=badplace))! 00:09:28 4tharraofdagon was last seen on CBRO (4tharraofdagon, L1 DrWr of No God). 00:09:28 ah okay 00:09:29 !banish Doesnty reddit 00:09:30 $nick casts a spell. ${1:-Everyone} is cast into ${2:-$(=badplace))! 00:09:32 rip again 00:09:46 imo that should work 00:09:47 hm! 00:09:48 !banish 00:09:49 $nick casts a spell. ${1:-Everyone} is cast into ${2:-$(=badplace))! 00:09:52 lmao 00:09:57 oh 00:10:00 did i forget the echo 00:10:07 no 00:10:08 no i didn't 00:10:14 you forgot the use of positional args 00:10:26 ??????? but isn't that $1 and $2? 00:10:26 I don't have a page labeled ?????_but_isn't_that_$1_and_$2? in my learndb. 00:10:36 ty sequell 00:10:55 !cmd !banish .echo $nick casts a spell. ${*:-Everyone} is cast into $(=badplace)! 00:10:56 Redefined command: !banish => .echo $nick casts a spell. ${*:-Everyone} is cast into $(=badplace)! 00:11:02 if someone sober wants to implement my idea that would be great 00:11:17 https://www.reddit.com/r/dcss/comments/4zwlpm/funny_yasds/d70jxzn?context=3 00:11:18 grr 00:11:22 just logged in and found this 00:11:41 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 00:12:39 lmao 00:12:39 nice! 00:12:39 immortalized forever 00:12:39 koboldina: imo die less? 00:12:59 "Deep in the dungeon, I believe D:8" 00:13:07 amalloy crawl is only fun when you're doing reckless things 00:13:12 immolate scrolls at xl5 00:13:29 with that said if you play like me you can't complain if you die 00:13:47 the earliest death i can remember, which occurred offline, was after reading immolation against some goblins 00:13:53 and then i tabbed them 00:14:06 xom thought this was hilarious 00:14:11 amalloy: oh 00:14:16 your syntax is just a bit borked 00:14:19 !cmd !banish 00:14:19 Command: !banish => .echo $nick casts a spell. ${*:-Everyone} is cast into $(=badplace)! 00:14:44 -!- kdrnic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:14:47 imo if Sequell doesn't support my totally reasonable syntax, fix Sequell 00:15:38 !cmd !banish .echo $nick casts a spell. ${1:-Everyone} is cast into ${2:-$(=badplace)}! 00:15:40 Redefined command: !banish => .echo $nick casts a spell. ${1:-Everyone} is cast into ${2:-$(=badplace)}! 00:15:43 !banish amalloy reddit 00:15:43 gammafunk casts a spell. amalloy is cast into reddit! 00:15:57 amalloy: you just closed the variable expansion with broken syntax that confused sequell, it seems 00:16:05 using ) instead of } 00:16:08 oh i used ) 00:16:13 lisp OP 00:16:32 -!- Kalir has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:16:34 it saw that and was like 00:16:48 "I heard what happened to travis when it tried to parse amalloy's stuff, I'm not touching that!" 00:17:12 gammafunk and travis are in cahoots. how do we revoke gammafunk's commit rights? 00:17:15 -!- GiantOwl is now known as Kalir 00:17:15 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 00:17:20 he said earlier he wants to kill me 00:17:30 you're just imagining things 00:17:34 I don't want to kill you, I just want you to die 00:18:14 the amalloy, the? 00:18:21 ally warnings seem inconsistent. the game will let me fire Stings through my ancestor all I want, but if I try to shoot a needle past it it'll warn me every time. toxic radiance doesn't bother the ancestor, but demonic guardian triggers warnings 00:18:57 well, most demons aren't poison immune these days 00:19:02 wrt toxic radiance 00:19:04 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 00:19:11 hey it's ontoclasm 00:19:15 or 'o-clas', as they call him 00:19:21 oh, does sting not do impact non-venom damage, is that why it doesn't concern the ancestor? 00:19:24 PleasingFungus: but you can't make demonic guardians made 00:19:24 that explains it 00:19:25 mad 00:19:32 just like ancestors 00:19:35 amalloy: but you still might not want to hurt them! 00:19:42 speaking of, is the Dith shadow-mimic angering thing still around? 00:19:42 PleasingFungus: hi 00:19:42 ontoclasm: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 00:19:45 !messages 00:19:46 (1/1) gammafunk said (7h 36m 58s ago): Another monster in the set that have hard to see ally halos, if you're still thinking about that: bone dragon. I can barely make that one out. 00:19:50 maybe okawaru gets mad if you attack an allied demonic guardian? 00:20:17 ontoclasm: the placement of their round wings is much of the problem (well, part) 00:20:32 toxic radiance is wonderful. I decided to give VM a whirl after that one tavern thread complaining that VM were underpowered 00:20:37 dunno what some tavern posters are thinking 00:20:42 ontoclasm: |amethyst was wondering if you'd contacted cowfuture about turning xhis felid/starcursed mass fanart into a loading screen ( http://cowfuture.tumblr.com/post/83221520330/heres-a-dungeon-crawl-stone-soup-painting-i-did ), and if not, if you wanted to 00:21:03 but like the never-ending "is this zombie recognizable enough" problem, maybe trying to fix all of those individually is not the right approach 00:22:55 -!- asdfwhorefsdwq has quit [] 00:23:13 ? 00:23:50 do you have anything in mind? 00:23:50 maybe you could put a buff icon on the tile 00:23:50 -!- aditya has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:23:53 like a little love heart 00:24:05 lol 00:24:17 that reminds me, idealise icon is easily overlookable 00:24:18 more seriously, I was thinking last night how much better the green circle looks than the love heart. Whoever thought of it, ❤️ 00:24:24 I wonder how many players even know idealise has a tile icon 00:24:45 +1. It took me a few uses. especially because the duration is short, the icon should be very obvious 00:24:47 i don't play tiles, and i can confirm the circle is way better 00:26:46 use the green circle for most allies and the love heart for friendly uniques 00:26:59 lol 00:29:26 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:30:02 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.19-a0-1292-g796ee4d (34) 00:30:07 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 00:30:08 -!- Molt has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:30:25 -!- Suga_H has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:31:08 ran into my own creation! 00:31:12 immediately slept! 00:31:16 ~toxic radiance~ 00:31:16 rip 00:31:46 bored by his own work... 00:31:55 if that crocodile was something tougher I woudl have been in trouble I think 00:32:11 s/bored/boned/ 00:32:25 amalloy: written by chuck tingle 00:32:42 the only chuck i believe in is chuck testa 00:32:50 No I don't have a suggestion for improving the green circle, it's probably the best thing going 00:32:58 oh minmay I was looking through logs last week and I saw you had an outstanding suggestion to disable demonspawn/undead from reading ?holyword 00:33:14 it makes sense to me, though we allow other species to read ?torment... 00:34:22 ohhm 00:34:23 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:35:02 -!- dtsund has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:35:02 yeah the idealize icon is very small 00:35:04 Brannock: torment acts like torment against monsters, holy word does not 00:35:06 ??holy word 00:35:06 scroll of holy word[1/1]: Deals 3d15+1d20 damage to all demons/undead in LOS, and dazes them for a brief period. If you are undead or demonspawn, it halves your current hp as well. 00:35:10 Brannock: but holy word currently acts like torment against ds/undead that read it which is mega dumb 00:35:31 and you can't make it deal 3d15+1d20 or you instakill players early on, yeah 00:35:32 Brannock: (it actually actsl ike torment against ds/undead that read it, even if the ds/undead is a monster, but that's not really important since monsters can't read holy word) 00:35:52 and I don't think it's desirable to have ?holyword act like torment instead of doing damage 00:36:01 extended considerations 00:36:19 yeah I can see why disabling it for ud/ds is a good idea 00:36:22 what if holy word didn't do damage 00:36:24 the scroll should probably just be removed since the game doesn't really need a consumable that exists exclusively to make extended easier 00:36:42 holy words of power infringe upon zin as well 00:36:44 replace it with scroll of mass paralysis 00:36:48 minmay: is there a learndb entry for your acquirement walkthrough 00:37:06 ??acquirement[$ 00:37:06 acquirement[3/3]: You finish putting on the -9 naga barding of Ypurch {Dex-3 Int-2}. 00:37:08 someone added it to learndb but i deleted it because it's outdated 00:37:21 how badly outdated? 00:38:52 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 00:39:58 woo, dream sheep into basilisk is nasty 00:42:22 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:42:23 lol 00:42:38 can you be put to sleep while petrified 00:42:48 yes 00:42:55 well, I wasn't, but you should be able to 00:43:01 I don't recall any code that suggested you couldn't be 00:44:05 -!- MakMorn has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:44:19 Dream Dust only checks if the target can be slept, and can_sleep doesn't care about petrification. Maybe petrification code has something interacting with it, I havent' looked at it 00:44:27 I wonder how the damage amplifiers would stack 00:44:31 chequers: no longer accurate for jewellery, staff, misc acquirement 00:45:10 I don't feel like making another flowchart and anyway the answer is just wand 00:45:35 I thought it was weapon then wand 00:46:27 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 00:46:32 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 00:46:32 yeah but if you need a good weapon you can figure that out without a flowchart 00:46:35 -!- xyblor has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:47:59 :) 00:48:40 hmm, should riposte trigger weapon brands? 00:48:53 yes? 00:48:58 riposting with this pain brand seems very good 00:49:20 sounds like: your pain brand is good 00:51:00 -!- MakMorn has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:51:49 am I crazy or was there a commit that removed axe brands triggering on cleaving for non-primary-target? 00:52:19 Seems not 00:53:11 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 00:53:40 axes + vamp: good 00:53:48 not that vamp isn't good on its own 00:58:02 who's responsible for this lair ending vault with the merfolk avatar 00:58:07 I enjoyed that one very much 00:58:09 nearly died twice 00:58:11 very good 00:58:15 oh 00:58:20 our best vault maker 00:58:48 -!- Zxpr1jk has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:00:01 hangedman? 01:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:00:15 doesn't exist! 01:00:27 =O 01:00:32 gammafunk_watery_temple I think? 01:00:40 ahem 01:00:44 gammafunk I have never seen him in the channel so I might believe that 01:00:55 it's gammafunk_lair_ancient_temple tyvm 01:00:59 but yeah glad you enjoyed it 01:01:01 new in 0.19 01:01:18 I thought it was frogpond at first then saw the blocks and ventured into it 01:01:19 whoops 01:01:21 koboldina: hangedman prefers to be called regret-index 01:01:45 has been in channel in recent past, may return some day, who can say! 01:04:57 -!- VoxSomniator has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:05:29 hrm, apparently my talk for the roguelike convention needs to be 60% longer. time to get writing 01:05:59 just tell them about the time you would have won dieselrobin if not for those meddling kids 01:06:06 lol 01:06:16 i think we put in a pretty good performance. 01:06:24 for sure 01:10:18 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:13:00 i hear at conventions they like to hear the speakers ramble on at length about topics of somewhat limited interest 01:13:06 you should do it 01:15:26 -!- Furril has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:15:54 i have some dreams you can use 01:15:54 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 01:18:22 you could just have an extended Q&A at the end 01:18:36 figure out a few topics where you can talk for 5mins on a little subject to draw out questions 01:23:31 -!- mibert has joined ##crawl-dev 01:23:55 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:28:03 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 01:28:34 chequers: i'm already planning to have ~5 min of Q&A at the end, but that still leaves me with 8 more minutes to fill! 01:29:52 -!- MakMorn has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:31:00 omg 01:31:00 if I knew maths, i could derive your talk length 01:31:07 lol 01:31:47 lol 01:32:05 simple. q&a about the q&a 01:32:09 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 01:32:15 or, you can ask THEM questions!?!? 01:32:32 "well, what do YOU think about X?" 01:32:56 i have some ideas. 01:33:42 lecture on the history of salt 01:34:01 salt...the spice...melange... 01:34:10 "I've been working on this branch. Now, log into CBRO with my credentials and start a wizmode game in salt, and give me your thoughts" 01:34:53 -!- jeefus has joined ##crawl-dev 01:38:35 -!- jefus has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:38:39 "salt was once used to pay soldiers in rome" 01:38:45 "and speaking of rome....." 01:46:56 when i was a kid i wanted my mom to buy me a salt lick 01:46:58 because i really liked salt 01:48:57 mmm 01:51:16 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 01:53:25 we actually got like, i don't know if it was salt licks technically or what, but a pretty sizable cube of hard salt, as a souvenir from a nature trip or something 01:55:10 "back when i was a kid, if we had been good all month, we'd get a salt lick" 01:55:14 that's a natural salt lick 01:55:17 "and then hostile deer would steal it" 01:55:29 "and by that I mean we'd get a single lick of dad's salt lick!" 01:55:33 ProzacElf: there's a far side cartoon about a deer grandma giving salt licks to grandchildren 01:55:37 elyvilon * ability - salt lick, pacifies animals 01:55:40 i recall that 01:56:23 but now I've grown up into a well-adjusted adult, with no desire to lick a cube of pure salt 01:56:27 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 01:56:34 1learn del minmay[9] 02:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:06:21 FR: yaks are attracted to pillars of salt 02:07:41 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 02:10:53 new recite tech 02:11:49 -!- hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:15:58 Something to think about: https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=21306 02:16:09 I have noticed that the stat drain on undead from those is pretty OP 02:16:30 i have a patch that adds a coinflip chance there 02:16:39 in testing the existing chance didn't seem that bad.. 02:16:52 but it would be consistent for tempmuts to be less serious for both living & undead characters 02:17:59 yeah I don't have a specific suggestion on what the number should be, half might be right though 02:18:08 those are fairly common in the abyss 02:19:42 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Quit: *ollies out*] 02:23:25 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 48.0.1/20160817112116]] 02:26:00 imo if an undead char goes into abyss we should just kill them on the spot 02:27:16 there was a bug in an old version where getting banished would just instantly kill you 02:27:29 !lg . abyss !gfspeed s=crace% 02:27:30 17 games for gammafunk (abyss !gfspeed): 10x Felid (58.82%), 3x Formicid (17.65%), Hill Orc (5.88%), High Elf (5.88%), Octopode (5.88%), Merfolk (5.88%) 02:27:34 the fix for that was the worst commit of all time imo 02:30:05 why? 02:30:08 it made abyss work again? 02:30:08 what was the fix / hat was wrong with it? 02:30:44 "hat was wrong with it" 02:30:47 is a good typo 02:30:47 idk its just something mikee_ told me 4 years ago 02:31:23 if an old man says it, it must be true 02:33:18 -!- Siegurt has joined ##crawl-dev 02:33:20 heh 02:34:16 -!- Blazinghand has joined ##crawl-dev 02:38:38 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:40:24 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 02:43:57 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 02:44:09 -!- ig0rb1t has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:45:05 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:46:56 -!- ig0rbit has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:47:13 -!- joy1999 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:55:13 -!- mong has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:55:44 -!- ig0rbit has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 03:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:02:45 -!- Cimanyd has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:07:01 -!- eb has quit [] 03:07:41 -!- Azzkikr has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 03:12:00 -!- MakMorn has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:12:11 -!- omnirizon has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:14:24 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 03:14:58 -!- Idolo has quit [] 03:24:35 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.19-a0-1292-g796ee4d (34) 03:28:48 -!- DDFi has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:29:18 -!- Pekkekk has quit [] 03:30:30 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:47:53 !tell pleasingfungus desolation opinions: yeah super dangerous, burned a lot of consumables, loot was alright but didn't feel satisfying after so many consumables. The entry in the middle was by far the most dangerous part since it took a few teles to get to safety and everything hits so hard 03:47:53 chequers: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 03:51:40 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 03:56:53 !lm * recentish br.enter=vaults|depths|elf|zot s=br o=% / lg:br=$noun 03:57:26 !lm * recentish br.enter=vaults|depths|elf s=br o=% !boring !experimental urune <=1 / lg:br=$noun 03:57:36 28573/177184 milestones for * (recentish br.enter=vaults|depths|elf|zot): 9967/49943x Vaults [19.96%], 7408/45944x Depths [16.12%], 8592/54539x Elf [15.75%], 2606/26758x Zot [9.74%] 03:57:41 !banish reddit reddit 03:57:42 gammafunk casts a spell. reddit is cast into reddit! 03:57:44 13225/56032 milestones for * (recentish br.enter=vaults|depths|elf !boring !experimental urune<=1): 3063/12083x Depths [25.35%], 3285/13622x Vaults [24.12%], 6877/30327x Elf [22.68%] 03:57:56 is this "how many people who enter the branch die in there"? 03:58:05 boringly similar 03:58:14 -!- ig0rbit has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:58:15 the what now 03:58:48 !lm * recentish br.enter=vaults|depths|elf s=br o=% !boring !experimental urune<=1 xl<=22 / lg:br=$noun 03:58:56 13205/55662 milestones for * (recentish br.enter=vaults|depths|elf !boring !experimental urune<=1 xl<=22): 3046/11892x Depths [25.61%], 3283/13567x Vaults [24.20%], 6876/30203x Elf [22.77%] 03:59:43 !lm * recentish br.enter=vaults|depths|elf s=br o=% !boring !experimental urune<=1 xl>22 / lg:br=$noun 03:59:47 20/370 milestones for * (recentish br.enter=vaults|depths|elf !boring !experimental urune<=1 xl>22): 17/191x Depths [8.90%], 2/55x Vaults [3.64%], 1/124x Elf [0.81%] 04:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:00:07 !lm * recentish br.enter=vaults|depths|elf s=br o=% !boring !experimental urune<=1 xl>=18 xl<=22 / lg:br=$noun 04:00:12 2909/16511 milestones for * (recentish br.enter=vaults|depths|elf !boring !experimental urune<=1 xl>=18 xl<=22): 1709/8204x Vaults [20.83%], 668/3528x Depths [18.93%], 532/4779x Elf [11.13%] 04:00:43 !lm * br.enter=vaults recentish x=avg(xl) urune<=1 04:00:44 14181 milestones for * (br.enter=vaults recentish urune<=1): avg(xl)=17.92 04:00:57 !lm * br.enter=vaults recentish x=avg(xl) urune<=2 04:00:59 47585 milestones for * (br.enter=vaults recentish urune<=2): avg(xl)=18.87 04:01:25 !lm * recentish br.enter=vaults|depths|elf s=br o=% !boring !experimental urune<=1 xl>=17 xl<=22 / lg:br=$noun 04:01:31 5371/27029 milestones for * (recentish br.enter=vaults|depths|elf !boring !experimental urune<=1 xl>=17 xl<=22): 2838/12332x Vaults [23.01%], 1147/5338x Depths [21.49%], 1386/9359x Elf [14.81%] 04:02:39 !wizrank recentish !boring !experimental urune<=1 xl>=17 xl<=22 04:02:41 WizLab ranking (recentish !boring !experimental urune<=1 xl>=17 xl<=22): 20/191x Lehudib's Moon Base [10.47%], 21/233x Doroklohe's Tomb [9.01%], 21/267x Wucad Mu's Monastery [7.87%], 19/247x The Roulette of Golubria [7.69%], 16/233x Iskenderun's Mystic Tower [6.87%], 11/274x Zonguldrok's Shrine [4.01%], 8/271x Cigotuvi's Fleshworks [2.95%], 7/247x The Hall of the Hellbinder [2.83%], 1/40x Tukima's... 04:03:10 -!- MakMorn has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:04:02 !wizrank recentish !boring !experimental urune<=2 xl>=17 xl<=22 04:04:04 WizLab ranking (recentish !boring !experimental urune<=2 xl>=17 xl<=22): 58/836x Doroklohe's Tomb [6.94%], 47/724x Lehudib's Moon Base [6.49%], 38/877x Wucad Mu's Monastery [4.33%], 33/847x The Roulette of Golubria [3.90%], 31/842x Iskenderun's Mystic Tower [3.68%], 21/913x Cigotuvi's Fleshworks [2.30%], 19/865x The Hall of the Hellbinder [2.20%], 19/879x Zonguldrok's Shrine [2.16%], 2/127x Tukima... 04:04:44 !lm * recentish br.enter=vaults|depths|elf s=br o=% !boring !experimental urune<=2 xl>=17 xl<=22 / lg:br=$noun 04:04:54 15637/91425 milestones for * (recentish br.enter=vaults|depths|elf !boring !experimental urune<=2 xl>=17 xl<=22): 8800/43531x Vaults [20.22%], 4033/22134x Depths [18.22%], 2804/25760x Elf [10.89%] 04:05:19 -!- PElf has joined ##crawl-dev 04:05:23 hrm, interesting how depths is as effective as it is 04:05:40 !lm * recentish br.enter=depths s=br o=% !boring !experimental urune<=2 xl>=17 x=avg(xl) 04:05:42 26413 milestones for * (recentish br.enter=depths !boring !experimental urune<=2 xl>=17): 26413x Depths [20.63] 04:05:54 !lm * recentish br.enter=depths|vaults s=br o=% !boring !experimental urune<=2 xl>=17 x=avg(xl) 04:05:58 70834 milestones for * (recentish br.enter=depths|vaults !boring !experimental urune<=2 xl>=17): 26413x Depths [20.63], 44421x Vaults [18.98] 04:06:11 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 04:06:29 how do you mean effective? 04:07:06 effective at killing ProzacElfs 04:08:06 I guess it's more that Elf isn't, and Depths is similar to vaults since there's not much difference in average XL between entering vaults vs depths 04:08:06 well, if you're looking for volume i think D is more effective =p 04:08:06 ah 04:08:09 -!- muravey has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 04:08:30 wow, D kills the most players, PElf with the insights 04:08:44 thanks, i'll be here all night 04:08:46 try the veal 04:08:50 mmm! 04:10:16 although i know i die more often in depths than in vaults these days 04:10:32 it seems you're not alone! 04:10:48 indeed! 04:11:11 i think in part a U situation can get out of hand a lot faster than a V situation 04:11:15 excepting V:5 04:11:24 yeah, I bet 04:12:24 !lm * recentish br.enter=vaults|depths|elf (( vaults lvl<5 kmap!=vaults_vault || !vaults )) s=br o=% !boring !experimental urune<=2 xl>=17 xl<=22 / lg:br=$noun 04:12:33 er 04:12:35 12349/88137 milestones for * (recentish br.enter=vaults|depths|elf ((vaults lvl<5 kmap!=vaults_vault || !vaults)) !boring !experimental urune<=2 xl>=17 xl<=22): 4033/22134x Depths [18.22%], 5512/40243x Vaults [13.70%], 2804/25760x Elf [10.89%] 04:12:36 wrong 04:13:43 !lm * recentish br.enter=vaults|depths|elf s=br o=% !boring !experimental urune<=2 xl>=17 xl<=22 / lg:br=$noun (( vaults lvl<5 kmap!=vaults_vault || !vaults )) 04:13:43 12349/91425 milestones for * (recentish br.enter=vaults|depths|elf !boring !experimental urune<=2 xl>=17 xl<=22): 4033/22134x Depths [18.22%], 5512/43531x Vaults [12.66%], 2804/25760x Elf [10.89%] 04:13:46 yeah 04:14:01 and that even includes elf:3 for elf 04:14:31 oddly enough most of my elf deaths are before elf:3 04:14:38 !lm * recentish br.enter=vaults|depths|elf s=br o=% !boring !experimental urune<=2 xl>=17 xl<=22 / lg:br=$noun (( vaults lvl<5 kmap!=vaults_vault || elf lvl<3 || depths )) 04:14:48 12349/91425 milestones for * (recentish br.enter=vaults|depths|elf !boring !experimental urune<=2 xl>=17 xl<=22): 4033/22134x Depths [18.22%], 5512/43531x Vaults [12.66%], 2804/25760x Elf [10.89%] 04:15:15 that didn't seem to work 04:15:23 it would seem not 04:15:58 !lm * recentish br.enter=vaults|depths|elf s=br o=% !boring !experimental urune<=2 xl>=17 xl<=22 / lg:br=$noun (( vaults lvl<5 kmap!=vaults_vault || elf:1 || elf:2 || depths )) 04:16:07 oh dammit 04:16:08 12349/91425 milestones for * (recentish br.enter=vaults|depths|elf !boring !experimental urune<=2 xl>=17 xl<=22): 4033/22134x Depths [18.22%], 5512/43531x Vaults [12.66%], 2804/25760x Elf [10.89%] 04:16:10 I see why 04:16:11 although some of my "dying more often in elf:1-2" can be attributed to diving in there earlier than i normally would, i think a lot of it is also from just being less careful 04:16:26 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 04:16:42 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 04:16:46 heh...or the time i was wearing an amulet of harm and ate something like 78 damage from a knight's stone arrow 04:16:59 !lm * recentish br.enter=vaults|depths|elf s=br o=% !boring !experimental urune<=2 xl>=17 xl<=22 / (( lg:br=vaults lvl<5 kmap!=vaults_vault || lg:br=elf lg:lvl<3 || lg:br=depths )) 04:17:09 18601/91425 milestones for * (recentish br.enter=vaults|depths|elf !boring !experimental urune<=2 xl>=17 xl<=22): 9485/43531x Vaults [21.79%], 4766/22134x Depths [21.53%], 4350/25760x Elf [16.89%] 04:17:40 dammit 04:18:07 !lm * recentish br.enter=vaults|depths|elf s=br o=% !boring !experimental urune<=2 xl>=17 xl<=22 / (( lg:br=vaults lg:lvl<5 kmap!=vaults_vault || lg:br=elf lg:lvl<3 || lg:br=depths )) 04:18:16 17218/91425 milestones for * (recentish br.enter=vaults|depths|elf !boring !experimental urune<=2 xl>=17 xl<=22): 4523/22134x Depths [20.43%], 8669/43531x Vaults [19.91%], 4026/25760x Elf [15.63%] 04:18:34 hrm, don't know why some of those other numbers went up though 04:19:19 !lm * recentish br.enter=vaults|depths|elf s=br o=% !boring !experimental urune<=2 xl>=17 xl<=22 / (( lg:br=vaults lg:lvl<5 kmap!=vaults_vault || lg:br=elf || lg:br=depths )) 04:19:19 19904/91425 milestones for * (recentish br.enter=vaults|depths|elf !boring !experimental urune<=2 xl>=17 xl<=22): 5834/25760x Elf [22.65%], 4779/22134x Depths [21.59%], 9291/43531x Vaults [21.34%] 04:19:19 interesting 04:19:57 !lm * recentish br.enter=elf !boring !experimental 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I think adding haste and mass confusion at the same level might be too much -- perhaps hexer can do without haste. Also, ancestors are weirdly useless in slime due to no rcorr -- it's sort of balance atm but I think better if they level up rcorr 08:37:30 chequers: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 08:39:31 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:44:37 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 08:52:30 -!- Dracunos-m has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:59:07 -!- TuxQmoob has quit [Changing host] 08:59:57 -!- mibert has joined ##crawl-dev 09:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:00:50 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:11:10 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 09:13:00 -!- debo has quit [Quit: orb spiders :(] 09:15:48 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:16:49 -!- docnvk has quit [Excess Flood] 09:22:49 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:51:02 -!- Nomi has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:52:57 -!- eb_mobile has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:53:30 -!- eb_mobile has quit [Client Quit] 09:56:50 -!- Amnesiac has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:00:48 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 10:33:23 -!- grammu has joined ##crawl-dev 10:35:18 -!- Grammus has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:38:27 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:38:58 -!- KuKumber has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:39:29 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 10:41:34 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:45:36 -!- Dracunos7 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:07:03 -!- eb has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:21:17 -!- eb_ is now known as eb 11:25:12 -!- JimmahDean is now known as NotJimmahDean 11:25:52 -!- NotJimmahDean is now known as JimmahDean 11:28:33 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 11:31:28 -!- Tiltorax is now known as Torax_ 11:42:43 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 11:48:33 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 11:49:07 -!- OrphineM has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:53:14 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:56:53 -!- assdfq has quit [] 12:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:01:39 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:09:26 -!- smee has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:10:06 -!- insecticide has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:14:14 -!- mibert has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 12:17:50 -!- jetnerd has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:18:01 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 12:18:16 !lm chequers salt x=vlong 12:18:16 PleasingFungus: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 12:18:17 3. [2016-08-30 07:37:45] [vlong=0.19-a0-1291-gc8f5409] chequers the Executioner (L17 MiFi of Hepliaklqana) killed the ghost of Lasiace the Impaler, an adept MfIE of Sif Muna on turn 28478. (Desolation) 12:18:26 desolation ghosts...! 12:18:47 %git 49cac51c460a396c2e4ebe02f9008d4b3f85a1d6 12:18:47 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.19-a0-1274-g49cac51: Fix Desolation loot 10(24 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/49cac51c460a 12:18:55 !tell chequers you played on a version with broken loot :( 12:18:56 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let chequers know. 12:19:54 !tell chequers or hrm, you played on the version with the entry in the middle? then the loot should've been working... hm! 12:19:54 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let chequers know. 12:24:54 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-1293-g2439ae9: Nerf tempmut statrot for undead 10(78 seconds ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2439ae934fe3 12:26:21 -!- Brannock has joined ##crawl-dev 12:34:12 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 12:40:15 !lg * ikiller='dream sheep' 12:40:16 2. rlgrobin the Slicer (L13 SpEn of Kikubaaqudgha), slain by a dream sheep on Lair:6 (grunt_megastairs_5) on 2016-08-29 19:40:33, with 29193 points after 18405 turns and 0:53:00. 12:40:24 !lg * ikiller='cyclops' br=shoals 12:40:25 149. CountDeLaPain the Severer (L17 MiFi of Okawaru), hit from afar by a cyclops (large rock) on Shoals:3 on 2016-08-24 02:40:13, with 188330 points after 40922 turns and 2:39:57. 12:41:12 looks like dream sheep aren't very deadly. hard to say for sure, though 12:41:31 I'm comfortable with them being fragile, and frequency/strength of sleep seems fine to me 12:42:10 -!- Torax_ is now known as Tiltorax 12:42:51 -!- home has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:45:21 -!- Jessika has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:45:33 looks like dream sheep aren't very deadly. hard to say for sure, though 12:45:37 they are 12:46:15 I've seen that one reddit thread, yeah 12:46:16 !lg * lair vlong>=0.19-a0-1245-geb39ca9 / status~~sleep 12:46:17 dream sheeps seem to team up with eight headed hydras 12:46:20 0/231 games for * (lair vlong>=0.19-a0-1245-geb39ca9): N=0/231 (0.00%) 12:46:23 hrm 12:46:34 what reddit thread ;o 12:46:39 it's just hard to track when a dream sheep causes someone else's death because being hit while asleep wakes you up 12:46:42 i guess probably they won't be sleeping when they're dead 12:47:03 -!- MaCwx has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:47:47 okay I see it 12:53:46 crawl trivia: gastronok isn't allowed to cast cantrips at the player if the player is under sanctuary. no giving your skin a 'faint greenish tinge'! 12:57:56 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 12:59:57 amazing 13:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:00:39 also, he makes noise when casting cantrips *if* and *only if* he's casting them at the player. 13:01:23 MarvinPA: i think i'm gonna remove ushabti's special shout type, since it seems pretty redundant with them having warning cry? 13:01:25 sanctuary against looking slightly sickly for a second! 13:01:46 oh, is their shout particularly loud? 13:01:53 fr: vitalization provides green skin immunity 13:01:59 MarvinPA: yep! 13:02:05 nice 13:02:17 noise 16, the loudest monster shout in the game 13:06:14 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-1294-g8f873aa: Fix dragon casting noise 10(8 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8f873aad5ff1 13:06:14 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-1295-g430f768: Remove ushabti rumble 10(39 seconds ago, 5 files, 1+ 14-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/430f768dfa42 13:07:19 -!- Amnesiac has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:09:04 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-1293-g2439ae9 (34) 13:13:48 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:14:17 -!- FiftyNine has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:15:01 noise 16, the loudest monster shout in the game 13:15:07 jorgrunt? 13:15:15 jorgrun doesn't shout, though? 13:15:21 well, i guess he has the standard noise 8 shout 13:16:11 well he casts ka-crash 13:16:49