00:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00:18 they're pretty much finalized, unless there's some weird interaction bug that I didn't think to test for 00:01:09 -!- crate has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:01:35 -!- GauHelldragon2 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:01:43 and the build passes, I see now 00:01:47 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:02:13 I've learned a lot about crawlcode while working on this project! 00:04:43 -!- GauHelldragon3 is now known as GauHelldragon 00:06:16 -!- Nomi has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:06:16 -!- destroythecore has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:06:37 -!- tksquared has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:07:16 yeah, first project you learn a lot for sure 00:07:38 just some conflicts from enum order due to PF's added things, but rebased to master ok 00:08:02 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 00:08:13 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:10:46 I was looking at what it'd take to remove sheep this morning but the code for that one xom vault scared me off 00:11:03 oh, your branch doesn't do that 00:11:06 it doesn't 00:11:08 I can make that commit 00:11:11 I figured they should be separate 00:11:40 I would put them in the same branch, personally, but yeah you can leave that to someone else 00:11:40 the vaults usually are just "replace monster" 00:11:43 the xom vault is funny enough to keep, imho, so I was looking at how to replace sheep with dream sheep in that vault 00:11:49 and Ic ouldn't follow the code at all 00:11:54 oh yeah, they can be replaced there fine 00:13:25 !source xom_sheep.des:24 00:13:25 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/altar/xom_sheep.des#L24 00:13:34 I think for my next project after dream sheep and Fn, I should look into creating some vaults, or at least learning the vault language 00:13:35 Brannock_: that's the relevan line to change 00:13:36 -!- Ladykiller70 has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 00:13:53 generate_awake dream sheep 00:13:59 Oh that's all? 00:14:01 if that's their name in mon-data.h 00:14:05 It is 00:14:14 I guess this is one of these cases where the solution seemed too simple to work 00:14:21 yeah dgn.create_monster() is the lua call to place the monster described in the string 00:14:41 said string follows the MONS: statement syntax, as described in the des syntax guide 00:14:56 How'd I miss guide.txt this morning 00:15:17 if you like, you can tweak some of those messages 00:15:29 "A dream sheep catches fire!" instead of just "A Sheep..." 00:22:00 Good idea 00:22:03 Okay, working on removing sheep 00:22:52 !source mon-place.cc:2177 00:22:52 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/mon-place.cc#L2177 00:23:02 Removing the one_chance_in(5) will make them just spawn in Shoals, right? 00:23:46 yeah 00:24:11 also you probably want to do a recursive grep or otherwise search des/dlua folders for "sheep" 00:24:24 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 00:24:49 I think a git grep can handle that, I often use find for it 00:28:01 Looks like they only show up in the Xom vault 00:30:05 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.19-a0-1238-gee6bd96 (34) 00:31:38 !source lair.des:2806 00:31:38 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/lair.des#L2806 00:31:55 -!- enthusiasm has quit [] 00:32:00 !source lair.des:215 00:32:01 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/lair.des#L215 00:32:24 also matches in overflow.des 00:34:45 -!- dolemite99 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:34:51 -!- scotchmint has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:35:06 I'm hesitant to edit some of these vaults 00:35:10 dream sheep are a lot nastier than sheep 00:35:13 especially in combination with other monsters 00:35:44 -!- destrovel has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:35:48 e.g., dream sheep probably shouldn't be in the generic lair entry vault 00:36:04 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:36:17 -!- nikheizen has quit [Read error: No route to host] 00:36:36 unlike death yaks, it's harder to run away from dream sheep, and they can essentially make it so that other monsters are able to catch up and stay alongside the player 00:36:48 on top of the damage boost from striking a slept player 00:37:31 dream sheep interaction with catoblepas cloud also seems nasty 00:39:07 Brannock_: well, I'd say two things about that 00:39:14 -!- Suga_H has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:39:37 the first is that it's always easy to remove their entry entirely from the vault, especially as how you see they're often simply alternatives for e.g. death yaks 00:39:53 the second is that it's just a good time to reason about the strength of your monster, and include their placement as you see fit 00:40:20 for one dream sheep are a band monster so you'll probably want to place them as dream sheep band unless you see that a single sheep might be a good fit 00:40:45 if you're uncomfortable deciding how good a fit they are in a given vault, I can make that change later 00:41:53 it is true that they're a bit harder to run from, and you don't want to go overboard in challenging vaults, but I doubt it's the case that you can't use them anywhere 00:42:29 you don't want to go overboard in any vault, really, challening or no, but yeah I can look at the instances if you're unsure 00:42:46 It's depth that I'm concerned about. An XL8 player dipping into lair that gets sleeped is liable to get oneshot by a death yak given unlucky combinations (part of why I placed dream sheep very late in lair) 00:42:58 And I'm not familiar with vault syntax so I don't know how deep some of these spawn 00:43:01 yet 00:43:20 -!- Mindiell has quit [Quit: leaving] 00:47:17 I'll err on the side of removal for now. Like I said earlier, I'm planning on digging into vaults and learning about them, so if I see vaults later on that would benefit from dream sheep inclusion I'll include them 00:47:44 removing a monster seems quite complicated! 00:47:55 16 files changed thus far 00:48:51 -!- Mindiell has joined ##crawl-dev 00:48:55 Brannock_: the Depth: line will show where in lair the vault places 00:49:52 !source lair.des:2892 this one doesn't seem to have a depth line 00:49:53 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/lair.des#L2892 00:50:41 Brannock_: that's a lair end, and it used Place: Lair:$ to mean it only ever places on lair end 00:50:48 I see 00:50:58 A dream sheep there seems fine then 00:51:44 Not quite related, but I thought of it while looking at all these vaults 00:51:45 -!- nikheizen has joined ##crawl-dev 00:52:05 When creating a vault, is there a simple way to check whether your vault idea has already been done, aside from manually reviewing the entire file? 00:52:39 not really, and reviewing the file may not be enough, depending on what kind of vault you're making 00:52:50 there may be vaults in other files that do a similar thing 00:52:53 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 00:53:13 for lair vaults, those are almost all in lair.des, although there are some that place in multiple branches in addition to lair, and aren't in lair.des 00:55:05 -!- Mindiell has quit [Quit: leaving] 00:55:34 I wonder if replacing sheep with dream sheep in xom_monty_hall is fine 00:55:56 A single dream sheep isn't much threat even if it gets the 4% chance to sleep you 00:56:13 I don't see why it wouldn't be, as long as they won't sleep you while feared 00:56:16 -!- Mindiell has joined ##crawl-dev 00:56:31 oh monty hall 00:56:37 yeah that's probably fine 00:56:45 that one shows up earlyish doesn't it? 00:56:51 dream sheep give a good chunk of XP 00:56:56 D:2-7 00:57:08 yeah it does; you could replace with something else certainly 00:57:18 how much more than normal sheep? 00:57:26 same XP modifier, but dream sheep have triple the HD (3, 9) 00:57:37 @??sheep hd:9 00:57:37 sheep (15Y) | Spd: 10 | HD: 9 | HP: 40-58 | AC/EV: 2/7 | Dam: 13 | Res: 06magic(10) | XP: 419 | Sz: Medium | Int: animal. 00:57:39 @??sheep 00:57:39 sheep (15Y) | Spd: 10 | HD: 3 | HP: 12-19 | AC/EV: 2/7 | Dam: 13 | Res: 06magic(10) | XP: 28 | Sz: Medium | Int: animal. 00:57:42 so yeah big dif 00:58:01 that HP difference is probably the big thing 00:58:10 wow ha yeah 00:58:20 dream sheep have 220 base hp too, instead of 165 00:58:25 something midly amusing and about as weak as old sheep 00:58:30 howler monkey? 00:58:32 @??howler monkey 00:58:33 howler monkey (09h) | Spd: 12 | HD: 3 | HP: 15-23 | AC/EV: 1/11 | Dam: 8 | 10doors | Res: 06magic(10) | XP: 54 | Sp: warning cry [11!AM, 08breath] | Sz: small | Int: animal. 00:58:35 -!- scorchgeek has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:58:52 @??gnoll 00:58:52 gnoll (08g) | Spd: 10 | HD: 2 | HP: 11-15 | AC/EV: 2/9 | Dam: 9 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors | Res: 06magic(10) | XP: 14 | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 00:59:10 gnoll isn't very amusing 00:59:13 howler monkey? 00:59:18 stats are very similar 00:59:22 i love that howler monkeys can open doors. Simian lore consistency! 00:59:23 what I just said 00:59:27 oh my bad 00:59:36 I was looking through the code and missed your suggestion 00:59:46 no worries, although the door thing 00:59:49 that's a problem, no? 00:59:51 could just rune the door 01:00:18 are there any monsters which comically can't into doors? 01:00:18 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:00:18 orb of fire 01:00:18 XTAHUA? 01:00:18 put a 3 hd orb of fire, done 01:00:18 XTAHUA is a level beyond.... 01:00:19 @??orb of fire hd:3 01:00:19 orb of fire (05*) | Spd: 15 | HD: 3 | HP: 12-17 | AC/EV: 20/20 | 11non-living, see invisible, fly, unbreathing | Res: 13magic(immune), 04fire+++, 02cold, 11elec+++, 09poison+++, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm, 04napalm | Vul: 11silver | XP: 55 | Sp: b.fire (3d11) [06!sil], fireball (3d10) [06!sil], malmutate [06!sil] | Sz: little | Int: human. 01:00:34 lol it really does scale down that xp 01:00:39 hogs might work 01:00:43 @??hog 01:00:43 hog (13h) | Spd: 13 | HD: 6 | HP: 27-39 | AC/EV: 2/9 | Dam: 14 | Res: 06magic(20) | XP: 196 | Sz: small | Int: animal. 01:00:45 6 HD though 01:00:50 yeah kind of still a lot 01:00:55 @??quokka 01:00:55 quokka (00r) | Spd: 12 | HD: 1 | HP: 5-7 | AC/EV: 2/13 | Dam: 5 | XP: 2 | Sz: little | Int: animal. 01:00:58 -!- cait has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 49.0/20160822111414]] 01:00:58 pretty pathetic 01:01:01 @??robin 01:01:01 Robin (11g) | Spd: 10 | HD: 2 | HP: 13-19 | AC/EV: 3/8 | Dam: 5 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors | Res: 06magic(10) | XP: 15 | Sp: battlecry [11!AM], throw ally [11!AM, 06!sil] | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 01:01:05 dang 01:01:31 iguana? 01:01:38 @??iguana 01:01:38 iguana (02l) | Spd: 10 | HD: 3 | HP: 12-19 | AC/EV: 5/9 | Dam: 15 | cold-blooded | Res: 06magic(10) | XP: 36 | Sz: small | Int: animal. 01:01:43 @??hound 01:01:43 hound (08h) | Spd: 15 | HD: 3 | HP: 12-19 | AC/EV: 2/13 | Dam: 6 | see invisible | Res: 06magic(10), 08blind | XP: 42 | Sz: small | Int: animal. 01:01:44 iguanas are god damn hilarious 01:01:44 almost exactly sheep stats 01:01:52 @??sheep 01:01:53 sheep (15Y) | Spd: 10 | HD: 3 | HP: 12-19 | AC/EV: 2/7 | Dam: 13 | Res: 06magic(10) | XP: 28 | Sz: Medium | Int: animal. 01:01:57 oh higher defenses 01:01:58 hmm 01:02:04 it's alright 01:02:08 iguanas are common that depths 01:02:12 *depth 01:02:17 iguana it is 01:02:26 I mean, if you see somethign better by all means 01:02:40 giant newt, gecko and iguanas... I can never remember the difference 01:02:47 weren't geckoes removed 01:02:55 -!- HellTiger_NB has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:02:57 @??giant lizard 01:02:57 can't place dummy monster: "giant lizard" 01:03:02 @??giant newt 01:03:02 giant newt (03l) | Spd: 10 (swim: 60%) | HD: 1 | HP: 1-3 | AC/EV: 0/15 | Dam: 3 | amphibious, cold-blooded | Res: 12drown | XP: 1 | Sz: tiny | Int: animal. 01:03:04 oh ok 01:03:08 yeah geckos are the fast ones 01:03:11 those you got to watch 01:03:11 ah, right 01:03:22 if you confuse ignuanas and the other two you're probably dead 01:03:37 helps that iguana tile is fairly large 01:03:41 relative to gecko/newt 01:03:48 what's a tile? 01:03:49 green lizard thing 01:03:53 not much to do about console players though 01:04:01 @??gecko 01:04:01 unknown monster: "gecko" 01:04:05 @??giant gecko 01:04:06 giant gecko (08l) | Spd: 12 | HD: 1 | HP: 5-7 | AC/EV: 1/14 | Dam: 5 | cold-blooded | XP: 3 | Sz: little | Int: animal. 01:04:21 console players just use the color 01:04:21 blue yellow green... the hidden colour blindness cost 01:04:34 it seems like ushabti don't take into account their beam's range diminishing when it penetrates undead allies, so sometimes they'll shoot it and it just won't reach you 01:04:39 'l' glyph sure has a big range of danger 01:04:46 from giant newt to basilisk and komodo dragon 01:04:56 i definitely know what colour an iguana is 01:05:02 not a big deal since it still obscures terrain though 01:05:08 glyphs are supposed to be that way, more or less 01:05:16 you have two things to remember 01:05:18 glyph, color 01:05:42 I used to be fluent in crawl glyphs 01:05:42 back before webtiles 01:05:42 if you can't remember two things, you're also probably dead 01:05:42 good ol XXX 01:05:42 oh uh 01:05:42 also an ushabti just drank a haste potion?? 01:05:50 @??ushabti 01:05:50 ushabti (078) | Spd: 8 | HD: 7 | HP: 37-53 | AC/EV: 9/6 | Dam: 30 | 11non-living, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, see invisible, unbreathing | Res: 13magic(immune), 05fire, 02cold, 10elec, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | XP: 259 | Sp: death rattle (2d4) [11!AM, 06!sil] | Sz: little | Int: human. 01:05:56 they can't use items, can they?....huh 01:06:05 @??mummy 01:06:05 mummy (15M) | Spd: 6 | HD: 3 | HP: 16-23 | AC/EV: 3/6 | Dam: 20 | 07undead, 10doors, evil, unbreathing | Res: 06magic(20), 02cold, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 04fire, 08holy++ | XP: 17 | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 01:06:07 guess it shows how much I pay attention to those 01:06:10 nonliving vs undead is probably why 01:06:14 it surprises me how slowly monster HD grows. From HD3 in early D to HD7 for crypt trash 01:06:31 well those have that for some reason about low hp etc 01:06:54 yeah. i guess I just assume HD is similar to absdepth 01:06:56 a funerary stone figurine made by mummies can chug potions, but not mummies themselves... the injustice 01:07:10 didn't the mummies make them before they became mummies? 01:07:14 maybe that 01:07:18 is why they made them 01:07:25 FR: nerf gargoyle by removing potion drinking 01:07:28 live vicariously through their figurines 01:07:28 to watch them drink things? 01:07:40 which do what they cannot 01:07:42 "hey...can I just watch you drink a beer? I want to remember what it's like" 01:08:00 mummies are creeps 01:08:04 "sure thing boss" 01:08:11 *splashes beer against stone face* 01:08:24 I have a complaint 01:08:37 ??complaint 01:08:37 I don't have a page labeled complaint in my learndb. 01:08:41 I wore the ring of Fragile Peace all game 01:08:45 -!- woodjrx has quit [Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.] 01:08:49 because I thought it had Fragile 01:08:56 nice 01:09:03 please lets not use the word "fragile" as part of an object name any more 01:09:05 LOL 01:09:10 give a !tell to PleasingFungus to thank him 01:09:13 well, was it a good ring? 01:09:16 submitting a patch to double "fragile peace" weight 01:09:17 now that Fragile is a keyword 01:09:21 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 01:09:25 speak of 01:09:27 it was ok the ring of Fragile Peace {Str-2 Dex+5 Slay+3 SInv Stlth+}. 01:09:27 -!- Mindiell has quit [Quit: leaving] 01:09:28 the fungus 01:09:37 The Ring of *Confused Peace 01:09:52 replace 'Fragile' with 'Tenuous' 01:09:54 maybe the text should be literally `{Fragile} peace` 01:10:11 how come removing a monster is harder than adding them 01:10:16 so many files to hunt through 01:11:06 what we need is a monster that can cast Fragile Shell, which adds Fragile to a worn piece of armour 01:11:16 do orb run spawn ever stop? 01:11:25 i wanted to write a patch to make fragile pre-ided 01:11:25 what if i spend more than 15k turns on the same floor? 01:11:26 they don't appear in the abyss 01:11:32 but otherwise no 01:11:40 this is becoming a boring sprint 01:11:48 they never simply cease, not until the world ends 01:11:50 why are orb run spawns even a sprint thing anyway 01:11:52 fungus is good 01:12:10 *fungi are good? 01:12:11 if the sprint has an orb, picking it up should end things 01:12:17 i, the fungus, am good. 01:12:24 no 01:12:24 pleasing, even 01:12:26 you're pleasing 01:12:28 big difference 01:12:29 excellent fungus 01:12:34 Rast: I think a few sprints are built around having an orb run 01:12:38 but is he really excellent? 01:12:43 (you are also a good fungus) 01:12:44 why on earth can ushabti use items 01:12:50 for vault syntax, is 'w:3 sheep' equivalent to 'sheep w:3'? 01:12:51 gammafunk, not thunderdome or zigsprint 01:12:56 I'm seeing both variations so I assume so 01:13:01 well, that's only two of them! 01:13:02 those spawn the orb right near the stairs 01:13:04 linesprint 01:13:08 the orb run is non-trivial 01:13:10 you pick it up and go up and win 01:13:17 the orb run is pleasing 01:13:21 or you pick it up and kill orb run spawns forever for score 01:13:31 I mean, for those others, you could have a fix of putting an exit near/on the orb, I guess? 01:14:02 but denying the orb run for all sprint makers would truly be a cruel injustice 01:14:19 just learn passage of golubria 01:14:26 the exit already is on/near the orb 01:14:34 the problem is the player can choose not to exit 01:14:40 and kill orb run spawns forever 01:14:41 kennysheep sure submitted a lot of vaults for someone I've never heard of 01:14:45 this is dumb 01:14:46 and i remember obscure crawl devs 01:14:48 what's the problem with that? 01:14:54 -!- Mindiell has joined ##crawl-dev 01:14:55 it's the same problem as non-sprint 01:14:57 it breaks score 01:15:14 it shouldn't 01:15:18 sprint scoring is more than just xp * runes? 01:15:18 since turncount should dominate 01:15:20 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 01:15:23 i think it does. i could be wrong 01:15:42 turncount and runes dominate scoring over xp for wins 01:15:43 its still dumb that orb run spawns appear 01:15:57 it does affect unwon games 01:16:31 !source scorefile_entry::init 01:16:31 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/hiscores.cc#L1519 01:16:55 Brannock_: he was never a dev, just a very prolific vault contributor 01:17:01 and the bane of grunt's existence 01:17:11 why was kennysheep the bane of grun'ts existence? 01:17:20 grunt stopped by my stream the other day, it was cool 01:17:23 !!! 01:17:24 he lives! 01:17:24 !seen grunt 01:17:25 I last saw Grunt at Fri Mar 25 18:44:03 2016 UTC (21w 6d 10h 33m 20s ago) parting ##crawl-sequell, saying 'chanpart'. 01:17:29 he lives on... 01:17:31 -!- whig has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.6.3+deb1 - http://znc.in] 01:17:36 awesome 01:17:41 Brannock_: well, the vaults, really 01:18:22 -!- Mindiell has quit [Client Quit] 01:18:26 -!- whig has joined ##crawl-dev 01:20:03 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-1238-gee6bd96 (34) 01:20:37 I don't know how much people care about this, but 01:20:45 Brannock_: not all monsters have eyes, probably, wrt some of these messages 01:20:49 maybe this was already discussed 01:20:54 -!- Mindiell has joined ##crawl-dev 01:20:56 it wasn't, but shoot 01:21:08 so many corner cases to watch out for! 01:21:55 + "%s's eyes droop closed as the sheep sparkle and sway.", 01:22:06 we can't just have.....drooping eyes....!!! 01:22:14 what will they say about us 01:22:16 PleasingFungus: oh you landed desolation! grats 01:22:21 a conditional for "eyes drooping" if the monster has eyes, and "slumps into sleep" if they don't 01:22:22 also 01:22:28 you should be using apostrophise() there 01:22:30 not sure what variable to put in for that conditional ternary though 01:22:35 also, yes, good suggestion 01:22:57 -!- Mindiell has quit [Client Quit] 01:23:17 !source food.des:368 I have no idea how to fix this, it's very primarily sheep and hogs/yaks are meaner than sheep. D:7-14 seems deep enough for hogs though, with switching around hogs and dream sheep weight? 01:23:18 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/builder/food.des#L368 01:23:30 @??hog 01:23:30 hog (13h) | Spd: 13 | HD: 6 | HP: 27-39 | AC/EV: 2/9 | Dam: 14 | Res: 06magic(20) | XP: 196 | Sz: small | Int: animal. 01:24:31 Brannock_: this is a personal style thing for me, not sure if others agree, but +* If this turns out to be too strong, it probably should check MR. 01:24:44 -!- Mindiell has joined ##crawl-dev 01:24:53 that comment can probably just be removed, just to keep function comments not fully of hypotheticals that could best go in commit messages 01:25:03 sensible 01:25:29 I may be imagining it but I think I read something in a text file somewhere about putting in XXX:/TODO: in comments 01:25:36 are we doing that in commit messages instead now? 01:26:27 i would say 01:26:39 comments about code TODOs and problems go in comments 01:26:51 comments about design TODOs go in commit messages 01:27:19 i don't have a strong reasoning for this 01:27:19 i would say that also, but in like a deep, epic anime voice 01:27:19 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 01:27:19 coders look at code, designers look at commits 01:27:19 maybe??? 01:27:48 comments go in comments 01:27:49 ProzacElf: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 01:28:07 comments go in comments, code goes in /dev/null 01:29:01 -!- Mindiell has quit [Client Quit] 01:29:09 also 01:29:11 I'm still stuck on fixing grunt_livestock in food.des that I mentioned above 01:29:15 i asked the designer of ushabti 01:29:32 and they said that the using items thing is "probably a copy-paste from guardian mummies" 01:30:07 !vault grunt_livestock 01:30:07 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/builder/food.des#L368 01:30:53 -!- Mindiell has joined ##crawl-dev 01:31:43 I was thinking swap hog and (dream) sheep weight 01:31:54 hrm, is that vault's weighting right? 01:31:55 bad idea: replace sheep w hounds 01:32:02 korean BBQ is delicious 01:32:08 funny idea: replace sheep w wolves 01:32:18 looks like it's only placing hogs/yaks on d:14? 01:32:43 gammafunk: you misread 01:32:43 probable 01:32:44 look at the else 01:33:00 yeah, if it's too deep you get only hogs/yaks 01:33:08 otherwise you get sheep with rare hogs/yaks 01:33:18 well too deep here looks like specifically d:14 01:33:24 hm 01:33:28 which is just an add choice, but ok 01:33:32 *ood 01:33:35 god *damn* it 01:33:37 !lg * x=absdepth 01:33:39 6073027. [absdepth=4] veven the Changer (L4 GrTm), slain by a scorpion on D:4 on 2016-08-26 05:32:41, with 107 points after 2758 turns and 0:08:57. 01:33:47 !lg * d:14 x=absdepth 01:33:48 12360. [absdepth=14] sodanet the Commander (L13 GrFi of Okawaru), blasted by Roxanne (crystal spear) on D:14 (uniq_roxanne) on 2016-08-26 02:27:43, with 25489 points after 13883 turns and 0:29:50. 01:33:52 does w:0 not work? 01:34:03 wouldn't w:0 disable? 01:34:18 that would be correct 01:35:26 anyway, I was thinking of replacing sheep with hogs for that one vault, with yaks being more likely to spawn at deeper depths instead 01:35:32 I wonder if hogs are too mean for D:7? 01:35:37 nah 01:35:42 @??hog 01:35:42 hog (13h) | Spd: 13 | HD: 6 | HP: 27-39 | AC/EV: 2/9 | Dam: 14 | Res: 06magic(20) | XP: 196 | Sz: small | Int: animal. 01:35:48 they're fast 01:35:52 enh 01:35:53 @??iguana 01:35:54 iguana (02l) | Spd: 10 | HD: 3 | HP: 12-19 | AC/EV: 5/9 | Dam: 15 | cold-blooded | Res: 06magic(10) | XP: 36 | Sz: small | Int: animal. 01:35:55 right, but we're not talking a lotta hog here 01:36:05 up to four 01:36:09 how do I check the version of a given server? 01:36:13 @??giant frog 01:36:13 giant frog (03F) | Spd: 15 (swim: 60%) | HD: 4 | HP: 18-26 | AC/EV: 0/12 | Dam: 9 | amphibious, cold-blooded | Res: 06magic(20), 12drown | XP: 90 | Sz: Medium | Int: animal. 01:36:18 nikheizen: ?v 01:36:24 !lm * src=cjr max=vlong x=vlong 01:36:26 or what amalloy said 01:36:29 76314. [2016-08-26 03:50:03] [vlong=0.19-a0-1238-gee6bd96] elan the Insei (L1 OpTm) began the quest for the Orb on turn 0. (D:1) 01:36:38 oh that's a good idea actually PF 01:36:42 replace sheep with giant frogs 01:36:44 er 01:36:48 not quite what i meant... 01:36:51 I know it isn't 01:36:52 frogs? as livestock?!?! 01:36:54 But giant frogs are edible! 01:37:07 jerky legs... 01:37:09 -!- amalloy has left ##crawl-dev 01:37:21 -!- amalloy has joined ##crawl-dev 01:37:23 look how much you offended amalloy, Brannock_, with your frog livestock 01:37:27 anyway, killer bee packs are native to d:7, and wyverns are one floor down 01:37:30 so i think people can handle hogs 01:37:40 hog, frog 01:38:09 give 'em hogs and tell 'em to be grateful they don't get hellhogs 01:38:17 commit message: make crawl a little less kosher 01:38:42 commit title: Bring home the bacon 01:38:50 FR: mountain goat, movement == jumping spider, tramples 01:39:01 also eats floor items 01:39:41 amalloy: how do I use this ?v? 01:39:44 no! bad gammafunk! 01:39:52 nikheizen: type it while you are playing crawl 01:39:59 ? is the help command 01:40:17 oh, ?v is much easier than what I've been doing before, which was dumping morgue then checking the first line of it for version 01:40:20 thank you amalloy 01:40:58 turns out that PleasingFungus' method was what I was looking for, thanks though 01:41:25 Brannock_: question about _dream_sheep_sleep(), you do a clarity check there, but isn't that handled by the want to sleep function? 01:41:42 -!- jehoesefat has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:41:48 as in, you're doing a kind of sanity check for one specific thing there, but not other things, like the immunity duration 01:41:52 maybe it is. I wrote that function over like 6 hours of trying to grok crawl code and I'm sure I duplicated a few things 01:42:24 yeah I'm looking at a flattened patch, so maybe that's not as apparent in your commit history 01:42:49 the original branch had like 40 commits and |amethyst very generously spent time with me helping to fix and squash it 01:43:32 probably you only need to check sleep_power in that conditional 01:43:32 and rely on the other function to properly work 01:44:02 unless having a comprehensive can_sleep() check of some kind is good as a sanity check, but then that should be used 01:45:28