00:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00:18 -!- qguv has quit [Quit: bye] 00:01:38 ok 00:01:46 I think I have the right setup for the foar chei game 00:03:10 did nemelex ever get un-wonkified btw 00:03:18 in the time I was gone 00:03:20 in what sense 00:03:38 the only changes were making him invo instead of evo and simplifying cards iirc 00:03:41 oh 00:05:56 so what's the tv 00:05:59 I'm watching it right now 00:06:04 oh I see 00:06:04 to make sure it's the right length 00:06:16 it's at the good part 00:06:54 this 49 hp in zot:5 tho 00:07:34 !lm * orb min=mhp x=mhp won 00:07:39 -!- sjl has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 00:08:28 hmm 00:08:30 a bit short 00:08:43 but I guess it's a good enough summary of what happened 00:08:49 so the tv is !lm koboldina foar place=zot:5 1 -tv:>4 00:09:05 90s limit exceeded: killed !lm * orb min=mhp x=mhp won 00:09:17 sequell is a bit slow lately 00:09:26 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.19-a0-1127-gac58878 (34) 00:09:51 wow 00:09:54 the current tv 00:10:08 -!- Kelp_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:10:53 !lm * orb min=mhp x=mhp won -tv 00:10:54 !lm plsesad spen place=lair:1 -5 00:11:04 45653. Stabwound, XL17 DESu, T:42179 (milestone) requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 00:11:04 2/6. [2016-07-12 10:37:19] plsesad the Covert (L11 SpEn of Ashenzari) entered the realm of Mnoleg on turn 15731. (Lair:1) 00:11:05 ^good bug 00:11:10 oh, yeah 00:11:14 just cpo things 00:11:30 haha, projected noise 00:11:35 wow this version must be ancient 00:11:40 what the hell is a dwarf dart 00:11:45 I need a better way to find those milestones 00:11:49 darts are basically tomahawks 00:11:52 I'm currently doing milestone~~realm but its super slow 00:11:56 anyone know what the real noun to use it? 00:11:59 rip dwarven and elven aromour 00:11:59 rip 00:12:08 what is a Punishment ego 00:12:18 just a randart 00:12:30 ohh 00:12:46 oh, koboldina 00:12:51 since you love hep so much 00:12:57 you should consider the hepchallenge 00:13:06 oh dear 00:13:16 https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=21063 00:13:39 hmmm 00:13:50 is there a way to track that via a ! command 00:13:50 that was the thread that reminded me to nerf hep 00:13:51 like !polytheist 00:13:54 !polytheist 00:14:47 PleasingFungus, |amethyst, gammafunk: re: cbro/cszo. cbro was able to handle the increased load due to me doubling the server specs (maxed out the VPS to the highest tier). Wasn't sure how long-term that would be. it's nearly $50/month so I think I need to do some research into cheaper hosting, cyclical upgrade/downgrading with the tourney cycle, or start selling brownies. I'm still open to helping out with czso-nouveau, but currently deluged 00:14:47 with LIFE, so it's kind of a bad time for me to do any changes 00:14:55 koboldina is a polytheist! 00:15:44 johnstein: all sounds reasonable! 00:15:48 new czso??? will it have the old cszo games on it or just be a new server with the same name 00:15:51 maybe lemonade! 00:16:01 it would have all the old games on it, if it was going to happen 00:16:12 nice 00:16:12 johnstein: tyvm for all the work on hosting 00:16:12 I can finally finish that mfsk I had 00:16:13 sinceuh 00:16:15 a true mensch 00:16:17 0.17 I think 00:16:28 its inventory is filled with removed wands 00:16:59 agh, i didn't meant to get your hopes up 00:17:06 this is something that we've been talking about on and off for months 00:17:40 well all it means is that I'm going to do another mfsk of fedhas as the last game to complete great/greater/poly :v 00:17:59 you have until I finish literally every other species/background/god to disappoint me!!! 00:18:23 :) 00:18:52 oddly enough no server admins have taken me up on my discounted shirts offer 00:19:31 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:19:34 maybe I'll just mail some for free to johnstein's house and he'll be confused on where they came from 00:20:01 and he can pay the server bill in shirts 00:20:18 i can make zibudo say yes 00:20:48 -!- minmay has joined ##crawl-dev 00:20:57 yes to shirts? 00:21:09 we were already talking about getting some anyway 00:21:20 i wonder if we should add an option to disable smart targeting 00:21:23 i just never followed up on it after we were talking about it 00:21:26 adding options sucks, but apparently smart targeting drives multiple people insane 00:21:34 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:21:43 grammus I just wish I had like 00:21:46 a giant pile of money available 00:21:52 so I could drop 400 bux or so on an adequate vinyl cutter 00:22:00 -!- qguv has quit [Quit: bye] 00:22:00 and make more interesting designs without them looking like crap 00:22:01 lol 00:22:21 like the one gammafunk had me make, the xxx design, would look roughly 3x cooler if the backing was cut out 00:22:32 i still can't believe he bought that shirt. 00:22:38 would you be fine with a used one 00:22:56 !lm * cpo br.enter=lair oplace=lair -tv 00:22:58 126. plsesad, XL11 SpEn, T:15731 (milestone) requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 00:23:05 yes I've considered that but the cheapest one that's also a respected brand that I could find on ebay was like 170 00:23:05 koboldina: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 00:23:07 :P 00:23:07 and then I might have like 00:23:13 the misfortune of getting a machine that doesn't work 00:23:23 !messages 00:23:23 (1/1) Kramin said (47s ago): squidcat and ultimatecarl need a third person if you're keen on dieselrobin, just join ##dieselrobin and do ${signup} "Lom Lobmonocle" 00:23:39 wasn't sure if you saw in ##crawl 00:24:02 im like 50% sure a friend of mine has one in his attic 00:24:06 koboldina: I think the black material in the XXX picture on the shirt turned out to be not bad, like you said it would 00:24:09 ill check with him if you want 00:24:35 one thing I regret a bit is not asking to have the red darkened a bit; perhaps just not using such primary reds/greens would have been nice, something a tad darker 00:24:41 but it still looks good 00:24:50 granted, that one might not work, but at least you wouldnt be paying for it 00:25:35 One thing I'm going to do is make dcss altar icons for frankerfacez 00:30:22 -!- Kintak has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:38:35 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:39:15 TY' 00:39:35 uh, that was my daughter. forgot to lock computer. oops 00:40:07 gammafunk I appreciate you saying so (I know the pic on there made it look worse than it really is) but I still believe that having a vinyl cutter would make it look better 00:40:07 YW johnstein 00:40:48 grammus that would be pretty super awesome 00:41:04 I'd definitely pay a fair price for it if it still works and does what I need 00:41:52 koboldina: yeah, I'm sure you're right about that 00:47:46 oh you got a tee gammafunk ? got a pic? 00:48:43 koboldina: I'd take you up but shipping is a real drag and we work next door to a tee printer 00:48:50 still want a fridge magnet tho 00:50:19 yeah shipping is rough if you don't live in america 00:50:26 even shipping to canada is pretty pricey, I don't know why 00:52:15 You kill Duvessa! Dowan's eyes darken. "You have made a black mistake." 00:52:20 wow excuse me devs I didn't know there was so much racism in this game 00:53:04 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: magistern] 00:54:08 we had to replace the sexism with something 00:55:29 With gozag we also have classism covered 00:57:09 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-1128-gc4a0c12: Re-implement cloud opacity with a flag 10(2 minutes ago, 2 files, 21+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/c4a0c129807b 00:58:54 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 47.0/20160604131506]] 01:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:02:22 there's a few communist jokes in gozag's line, iirc 01:02:44 hey. if dowan thinks mistakes are black 01:02:50 why do his eyes darken? 01:02:54 badum-tsh 01:03:19 ohoho 01:03:42 -!- Cerepol has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:04:25 chequers as for the shirt we were talking about 01:04:26 it's this one 01:04:29 https://www.etsy.com/listing/458310238/baesexual-shirt?ref=shop_home_active_1 01:04:31 wait no wrong paste not that one 01:04:36 https://www.etsy.com/listing/448573688/dungeon-crawl-stone-soup-themed-shirt?ref=shop_home_active_2 01:04:37 this one 01:09:22 -!- ig0rbit has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:09:26 please PLEASE tell me gammafunk owns the first 01:09:32 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-1128-gc4a0c12 (34) 01:18:25 chequers: it's even worse 01:18:48 I requested it and thought of the concept; koboldina and CanOfWorms put together the design though 01:19:47 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-1128-gc4a0c12 (34) 01:20:00 and tbf the concept I "thought" of was "have XXX with some of the latest Abom/Tmons tiles", I think CanOfWorms actually suggested the grid, and he made the image 01:20:05 I think canofworms did most of the design decisions, I just touched it up and turned it into a shirt 01:20:50 that's not me in the picture though. I have like, 200 lbs of pure muscle irl 01:20:54 my original idea was more like XXX and then all the abom tiles in sort of a circle around it 01:21:00 -!- Zxpr2jk has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:21:12 that would have been nice too, with smaller tiles ofc 01:22:02 the decision of which tiles to exclude was painful, but necessary when you can only use 4; a circle of tiles could let you use them all 01:25:53 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 01:31:20 -!- Harudoku has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:32:41 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 01:32:51 -!- squidcat has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:35:11 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:38:16 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 01:38:51 Alright, I'll be gone for the next two weeks. 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(beam 'fireball', source 'ImbarsBidbib's ghost', item 'none'; has range -1) (Depths:1) 12:41:10 -!- fufumann has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:41:34 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:47:58 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 12:51:13 -!- Lasty_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:05:11 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:07:15 -!- chan20 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:20:01 -!- insecticide has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:22:53 -!- homsar has quit [Client Quit] 13:24:18 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:24:51 -!- jetnerd has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:25:22 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 13:28:42 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.19-a0-1128-gc4a0c12 (34) 13:33:49 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:34:04 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 13:34:06 !crashlog msp 13:34:07 1. msp, XL21 DrIE, T:74661 (milestone): http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/msp/crash-msp-20160812-163651.txt 13:34:33 !source im_battlesphere 13:34:34 Can't find im_battlesphere. 13:34:37 !source aim_battlesphere 13:34:37 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/spl-summoning.cc#L2709 13:35:07 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Quit: I like to rock] 13:35:12 range = -2, dang 13:35:25 -!- Sonata has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:42:22 @??goblin hd:10 spells:lightning_bolt.200.wizard,electrical_bolt.200.wizard 13:42:22 goblin (15g) | Spd: 10 | HD: 10 | HP: 32-48 | AC/EV: 0/12 | Dam: 4 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster | XP: 610 | Sp: b.lightning (3d17) | Sz: small | Int: human. 13:42:31 @??goblin hd:10 spells:electrical_bolt.200.wizard 13:42:32 goblin (15g) | Spd: 10 | HD: 10 | HP: 32-48 | AC/EV: 0/12 | Dam: 4 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster | XP: 568 | Sp: b.electrical (3d13) | Sz: small | Int: human. 13:47:43 @??goblin hd:10 spells:airstrike.200.wizard 13:47:43 goblin (15g) | Spd: 10 | HD: 10 | HP: 32-48 | AC/EV: 0/12 | Dam: 4 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster | XP: 568 | Sp: airstrike (0-30) | Sz: small | Int: human. 13:52:08 hrm 13:54:36 !source _do_mon_spell 13:54:37 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/mon-act.cc#L256 14:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:01:01 -!- elan has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:02:14 -!- qguv has quit [Quit: bye] 14:02:26 -!- doll has quit [Quit: it's 4am yo] 14:05:07 -!- insecticide has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:07:05 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 14:21:06 did i imagine that chaos brand used to be able to web things, but had a really tiny weight for it 14:21:37 i'm almost certain that was a thing but i can't find it or any evidence for it in git history, except for the fact that call of chaos does it now too 14:22:14 you could just be thinking of call of chaos, yeah 14:22:15 hm 14:22:28 i really thought that was like, ancient chaos trivia 14:23:40 git log -S finds no trace of WEB or web in either attack.cc or melee-attack.cc 14:24:40 yeah, same for "ensnare", maybe i really did imagine it 14:24:51 or all it finds there is the actual AF_ENSNARE 14:25:12 Sad! 14:25:41 -!- flappity_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:26:50 -!- Lightli_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:27:08 hrm 14:27:29 do any vaults give perma-confused monsters targeted spells? like a ball lightning with lightning bolt or something 14:27:44 i guess it'd probably have to be a sprint 14:27:49 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:35:02 -!- gregathol has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:35:20 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 14:36:00 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 14:37:39 hm, i'm assuming the BEAM_UNRAVELLED_MAGIC in call of chaos is supposed to actually do the debuff explosion thing 14:37:47 and not just malmutate things 14:37:51 i don't think i put that in there 14:38:21 yeah, i guess whoever added it didn't check which beam does what :P 14:38:21 but if it was supposed to do the debuff, it would have to be a different beam 14:38:21 hm 14:38:42 %git d1db97e94 14:38:42 07Grunt02 * 0.18-a0-780-gd1db97e: Convert Chaotic Mirror into Call of Chaos and give to Mnoleg. 10(8 months ago, 11 files, 113+ 82-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d1db97e94c81 14:38:53 hrm 14:38:56 -!- kdrnic has joined ##crawl-dev 14:39:21 dang, i guess yara's really has been around that long 14:39:22 time flies 14:40:29 oh it doesn't work as an explosion with the other beam type anyway, since it's not firing an actual beam 14:41:17 hm, i honestly don't remember how i implemented that 14:41:54 BEAM_UNRAVELLING debuffs a thing and sets up the explosion 14:42:01 -!- Harudoku has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:42:05 and the explosion is of beam type BEAM_UNRAVELLED_MAGIC, which malmutates the things it hits 14:42:29 but just firing a BEAM_UNRAVELLING doesn't explode anything? 14:43:20 it does, but call of chaos in particular doesn't fire a beam, it just uses enchant_actor_with_flavour directly 14:43:47 (which does in fact set up a dummy beam, but doesn't fire it!) 14:44:31 ahh 14:44:35 all is clear 14:51:44 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-1129-g9c3848f: Don't pass a beam to mon_special_abil 10(26 minutes ago, 5 files, 25+ 22-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9c3848f2c2e4 14:51:44 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-1130-gf441eeb: Remove obsolete Lost Soul flickering code 10(28 seconds ago, 1 file, 0+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/f441eeb6fcae 14:52:16 !source _nonredundant_launcher_ammo_brands 14:52:17 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/monster.cc#L1256 14:52:24 i wonder how much other scattered ammo brand code there is 14:52:27 n i c e 14:52:56 gotta be careful with removing that, since ammo brands still exist (for tomahawks/javelins) 14:53:00 but yeah that function is good 14:53:06 imo monster pickup rules are a goldmine for dead code 14:53:09 that one is explicitly checking for launchers though yeah 14:53:58 oh sort-of-relatedly: i have a thing ready for removal of jelly eating 14:54:22 which i know will draw dpeg complaints but i think as you mentioned last time it came up is really just kind of necessary at this point 14:54:46 we could re-add jellies eating seen items :) 14:55:51 imo just let jellies see eaten items 14:56:00 like in the sixth sense 14:56:32 !!! 14:57:43 hmm, flaming/freezing ammo should just never exist now, right? 14:58:05 i guess 14:58:10 unless the shop vault that also should never exist sells it 14:58:10 hm 14:58:15 off-brand ammo...!? 14:58:33 it sure does 14:58:50 -!- Jafet has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 14:59:11 i think it's time for that vault to go... 14:59:20 no! no!!! 14:59:23 such hate... 14:59:39 does your lust for removals know no bounds!? 15:00:00 will jellies still eat with jiyva, or will something else happen? 15:00:04 all that would be left would be dispersal and chaos javelins which is a pretty limited selection! 15:00:04 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:00:57 Shard1697: jiyva jellies already ignore the normal jelly-eating rules 15:01:08 oh and explosion javelins and chaos tomahawks. can xom still gift chaos ammo, i imagine so 15:01:19 what about... large rocks... 15:01:23 sure. I'm just curious whether they will continue to eat, no value judgement really 15:01:52 it doesn't sell them! (i think possibly because i already removed those from it) 15:02:26 Shard1697: i would assume so, yes 15:02:48 MarvinPA: oh, well, there's definitely no point to the shop in that case. 15:02:52 get it out! 15:05:26 maybe should be a message upon joining about jellies growing hungrier+a thing in the ^ screen 15:05:45 plausible! 15:09:03 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-1130-gf441eeb (34) 15:09:16 oh i guess the functionality for them still needs to exist for chaos 15:11:39 -!- zxc has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:12:21 -!- Bammboo00 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:15:23 gosh there's a whole lot of handling for temp-branding weapons with things that aren't pain/distortion and so can never happen now 15:16:51 -!- homsar has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 15:16:57 hrm 15:17:04 i'm not sure that's true 15:17:34 the only other source of temp branding i can think of was the old blade card, didn't see any other calls to brand_weapon anywhere 15:17:41 oh, maybe i was just thinking of blade card 15:17:50 nemelex... 15:18:05 default: 15:18:06 return " wibbles buggily."; 15:18:08 very good 15:18:17 :) 15:20:10 hmm i'd still sort of like to remove warp weapon and excruciating wounds anyway, that would clean up a whole lot of code... 15:21:47 that seems like a bad justification 15:23:03 well that's not the actual justification, the reasoning is that those brands are supposed to be rare and tied to their gods, and especially in distortion's case to have a significant downside which the spell pretty much entirely sidesteps 15:23:20 in exchange for other significant downsides 15:23:40 i think the brands are still pretty rare even with those spells in the game; i don't see them being cast very heavily 15:24:04 -!- Cacophony has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:24:10 though ofc you could argue that as another reason for removal :) 15:24:13 what are the significant downsides of warp weapon? 15:24:48 note that it's not even noisy like excruciating wounds (this also came up last time this was discussed) 15:25:31 something about having to get a level 5 dual-school spell charm up and running, probably. but i did forget it wasn't noisy 15:25:58 of course that could be changed, but i still think they're much less interesting in spell form 15:26:09 do you feel like people aren't choosing lugonu because they can just cast warp weapon instead? 15:26:19 or kiku/excruc 15:27:35 -!- Cacophony has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:27:45 -!- tksquared has quit [Read error: Network is unreachable] 15:28:18 not necessarily, but i think the brand is still more interesting as something you have to commit to for distortion specifically 15:28:32 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-1131-g2cec7c1: Don't pass a beam into handle_mons_spell 10(19 seconds ago, 3 files, 16+ 17-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2cec7c1d465c 15:28:37 i don't choose lucy because i want a god before i get banished, and don't want to swap after that 15:28:47 (either by worshipping lugonu, or by dealing with the unwield effects if you don't worship lugonu) 15:29:50 i guess i don't feel super strongly about warp weapon. tloc is looking kinda shaky as a school these days. could always merge it with charms 15:29:57 before we remove charms 15:30:36 i guess it's not that bad... hrm 15:31:35 what do you mean by shaky? 15:32:03 i feel like we've been chipping away at the school, but looking at the list, there's still a decent number of spells in there 15:32:32 nice, apparently warp weapon's downside is supposed to be that you have to recast it a lot, the power is halved for the purposes of calculating duration 15:32:36 lol 15:32:45 that sounds faintly familiar 15:32:53 i think i rewrote some of the relevant code at some point 15:34:56 tloc is quite a strong school imo 15:35:11 blink + apport + PoG are spells i try to get every game 15:35:42 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 15:35:58 the higher-level spells are probably good but i rarely bother to learn them 15:36:15 so i guess tloc is like...bland, from my PoV. not weak, just boring 15:38:35 a school where you only bother to learn low-level spells? obviously merge tloc and poison magic 15:41:12 speaking of, some people feel that poison magic levels off in effectiveness too quickly 15:41:30 really, i have never heard that on tavern 15:42:33 i think tavern underestimates poison magic 15:43:27 I dimly remember using venom bolt against hydra and the like 15:43:35 and not dying 15:49:18 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:50:37 -!- Sonata has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:54:32 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 15:56:09 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 16:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:01:13 -!- edsrzf has joined ##crawl-dev 16:05:47 -!- Dracunos7 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:08:58 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-1131-g2cec7c1 (34) 16:11:03 nice, apparently demonspawn/undead are intended to be unable to wield scrolls of holy word 16:11:28 (but it doesn't work and i immediately gave up on figuring out why after looking at the 6 different versions of can/could_wield) 16:12:57 -!- Cerepol has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:15:10 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-1132-g9ec05d1: Use more monster helper functions 10(2 days ago, 2 files, 3+ 6-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9ec05d19e4ca 16:15:50 minmay was suggesting making demonspawn/undead straight up unable to read holy word 16:16:08 rather than having the weird holy-torment thing for them, that doesn't match the effect on monsters (misleading to players?) 16:21:18 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 16:21:33 -!- bammboo has quit [] 16:22:46 -!- Bammboo00 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:22:57 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:23:28 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 16:23:52 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:24:21 hmm, i think i did something to make that more consistent recently somehow 16:24:43 plausible! 16:25:01 oh right, it was actually to make it consistently inconsistent (in a way that also never matters because monsters don't use it) 16:25:04 %git :/holy word 16:25:04 07MarvinPA02 * 0.19-a0-548-gda230b6: Personalise the Torment card 10(9 weeks ago, 6 files, 38+ 39-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/da230b6bd9f8 16:26:07 it now just always has different effects on players vs monsters, rather than the effect (on both players and monsters) changing depending on whether a player or a monster reaad it 16:26:10 read* 16:26:59 or something. anyway making ds/undead unable to read it seems probably fine 16:27:26 -!- dalwyn has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:30:39 maybe i'll do that at some point 16:30:39 not a big deal one way or another 16:33:38 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:38:30 -!- Kalir has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:38:43 -!- GiantOwl is now known as Kalir 16:38:56 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 16:41:11 -!- TuxQmob has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 16:48:31 -!- Tiltorax has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:53:15 -!- dolemite99 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:54:52 -!- koboldina has joined ##crawl-dev 16:55:02 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 16:59:48 -!- mibert has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:00:39 -!- koboldina has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:03:34 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 17:03:35 The build has errored. (master - 9ec05d1 #6332 : Nicholas Feinberg): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/151912888 17:03:35 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 17:06:35 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 47.0/20160604131506]] 17:07:05 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Quit: I like to rock] 17:08:06 -!- gressup_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:08:58 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-1132-g9ec05d1 (34) 17:09:24 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 17:14:29 -!- PElf has joined ##crawl-dev 17:14:47 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:25:57 -!- adrogant has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:29:13 -!- LexAckson__ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:30:29 -!- melkoren has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:31:49 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:40:08 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.19-a0-1133-ga89c646: Remove an obscure daeva special-case (PleasingFungus) 10(4 hours ago, 1 file, 0+ 12-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a89c646d3ffc 17:40:08 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.19-a0-1134-gef96442: Adjust @ display with no status effects (nikheizen) 10(3 hours ago, 1 file, 4+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ef964420d491 17:40:08 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.19-a0-1135-gea4e325: Adjust Call of Chaos's effect list (Arrhythmia) 10(3 hours ago, 1 file, 6+ 10-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ea4e3257cf51 17:40:08 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.19-a0-1136-g98bd279: Remove some obsolete handling for missile brands that never generate 10(2 hours ago, 12 files, 30+ 137-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/98bd279e9e65 17:40:08 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.19-a0-1137-gb8297ed: Make mutations only cause stat drain to the undead 10(6 days ago, 1 file, 3+ 13-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/b8297edc0bc7 17:40:08 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.19-a0-1138-gaabdb3a: Remove the Mummy self-restoration ability 10(6 days ago, 6 files, 12+ 41-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/aabdb3a91586 17:40:08 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.19-a0-1139-g98d623e: Remove the sustain attributes effect 10(5 weeks ago, 39 files, 46+ 123-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/98d623eea26f 17:40:08 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.19-a0-1140-g6f6d809: Make jelly item-eating Jiyva only 10(5 weeks ago, 13 files, 25+ 135-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/6f6d80984bf4 17:40:08 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.19-a0-1141-g306788c: Fix a warning 10(15 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/306788c57281 17:40:08 03Emily02 {MarvinPA} 07* 0.19-a0-1142-ga75ee97: Remove the EV penalty for taking stairs 10(10 weeks ago, 3 files, 3+ 9-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a75ee9761a89 17:43:22 raising the level of a millimarvin? 17:43:40 invest now! 17:52:03 Rip sustain abilities, the end of an era 17:54:07 ye will not be missed 17:56:46 what happens to existing =sustat ? 17:57:14 it just stops doing anything, i guess it could be marked as always-useless 17:59:03 -!- Kranix has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 18:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:03:50 -!- docnvk has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:08:57 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-1142-ga75ee97 (34) 18:14:36 -!- orost has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:15:18 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.19-a0-1142-ga75ee97 (34) 18:16:32 whoa, sustat is gone? i must've missed one of those 18:17:51 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:20:58 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 18:27:14 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 18:27:15 The build passed. (master - a75ee97 #6333 : Emily): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/151934186 18:27:15 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 18:34:06 -!- Ququman has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:34:40 !seen |amethyst 18:34:40 I last saw |amethyst at Fri Aug 12 03:49:36 2016 UTC (18h 45m 3s ago) saying '!learn add questionablecontent http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1895' on ##crawl-dev. 18:34:57 <|amethyst> sup? 18:35:01 hm, remaining holiness exceptions after giving trog piety from undead are just kiku (no piety from undead) and yred (no piety from undead or demons) 18:35:20 unsure of the merits of those, although in yred's case it's probably more of a noticeable thing 18:35:37 |amethyst, in relation to our conversation yesterday about server side being the most secure and wallhacks and what not 18:36:13 |amethyst, I was playing last night, and some glitch caused me to be able to view a quarter of the tiles for all the map (aka stuff that should have been black) 18:36:42 <|amethyst> things you have never seen? 18:36:42 Which suggests that the server is already sending more than what is actually visible? 18:36:44 Yeah 18:36:46 things I have never seen 18:37:13 <|amethyst> more likely the error was in the game, and you would have seen the same thing in console 18:37:39 Ok 18:37:50 <|amethyst> you could check your ttyrec (with !lm -tv) to see if that's the case 18:38:05 Uhh that was many stupid deaths ago 18:38:11 If it happens again I'll do that though 18:38:36 <|amethyst> ttyrecs are recorded permanently, so if you can find which game it was you can still view it 18:38:47 <|amethyst> definitely a server-side bug, though 18:38:56 <|amethyst> s/server/crawl/ 18:39:19 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:39:35 <|amethyst> whether the bug was putting things in map_knowledge that shouldn't have been there, or sending the actual map rather than map_knowledge 18:39:46 <|amethyst> assuming the things you saw were correct, anyway 18:40:09 <|amethyst> if those things were bits and pieces of another level instead, that could be a client-side bug 18:40:37 Hmm that's possible 18:40:44 I wasn't paying enough attention 18:40:52 I'm not really sure what it would look like with a ttyrec. 18:41:05 The bits of an old level sounds pretty plausible now that you mention it 18:41:16 Since i was only seeing quarters of tiles 18:43:44 <|amethyst> !bug 9364 18:43:45 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9364 18:43:50 <|amethyst> might be related to this, might not 18:43:57 -!- Kalir has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:45:14 I see 18:45:52 <|amethyst> though it osunds from the description like this was happening on every single level for the reporter 18:45:59 <|amethyst> s/osunds/sounds/ 18:46:16 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 18:46:40 <|amethyst> I'm a bit laggy at the moment because uploading 2GB of video to youtube is taking all my bandwidth 18:47:22 <|amethyst> s/bandwidth/upstream &/ 18:48:00 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: magistern] 18:48:02 <|amethyst> maybe I should look into doing some QoS filtering, but that sounds like IT and I hate doing IT :) 18:49:34 -!- flappity_ has quit [Read error: Network is unreachable] 18:51:30 -!- AltReality has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:51:46 -!- sage1234-iphone has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:52:49 -!- G-Flex has quit [Quit: reboot] 18:52:52 -!- Kenran has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:55:21 -!- orost has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:55:38 -!- Dracunos-m has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:57:14 2GB of video, |amethyst putting the rest of of streamers to shame 18:57:27 -!- arcanemastermind has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:59:48 <|amethyst> our uni faculty media depot records in HD 19:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:00:13 <|amethyst> it's about 45 minutes 19:00:32 <|amethyst> I'm sure amalloy has uploaded way way more than that :) 19:04:52 looks like I've streamed about 200GB since last December 19:04:57 it adds up fast 19:11:22 03MarvinPA02 07[generipiety] * 0.19-a0-1113-g1db0fcb: Simplify piety from kill god conducts 10(81 minutes ago, 2 files, 9+ 51-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1db0fcb54f1d 19:11:22 03MarvinPA02 07[generipiety] * 0.19-a0-1114-g7918953: Slightly increase Dithmenos piety costs 10(4 weeks ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/791895340113 19:11:22 03MarvinPA02 07[generipiety] * 0.19-a0-1115-gdedf28e: Don't make "artificial" monsters distinct from nonliving ones 10(4 weeks ago, 15 files, 64+ 73-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/dedf28e0652b 19:11:22 03MarvinPA02 07[generipiety] * 0.19-a0-1116-g2d3246e: Give Trog and Kiku piety from killing undead 10(33 minutes ago, 2 files, 7+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2d3246e1af22 19:11:22 03MarvinPA02 07[generipiety] * 0.19-a0-1148-gfd23481: Merge branch 'master' into generipiety 10(12 minutes ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/fd2348157d3d 19:11:22 03MarvinPA02 07[generipiety] * 0.19-a0-1149-g9310b1c: Fix messaging for trying to worship Yred in wispform 10(68 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9310b1ceafb2 19:12:59 -!- Rast has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:14:50 -!- sage1234-iphone has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:15:36 does this mean you can get excommunicated from being polymorphed under yred? 19:16:08 or does that only happen for voluntary transformations 19:17:20 just voluntary ones i'm pretty sure 19:17:42 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 19:18:11 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:19:12 and those commits wouldn't change the behaviour eiher way, since you can't cast wisp form 19:19:32 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 19:19:49 I was wondering more the case where a monster polymorphs you into wisp form 19:20:38 PleasingFungus: hi i was just about to !tell you: did you have anything else in mind for generipiety? (or any thoughts on the stuff i pushed or the merits of yred not giving piety for demons & undead?) 19:20:39 and uh if the game lets you zap yourself with polymorph wands 19:21:08 just got back from moving furniture, gimme a few minutes to catch up 19:21:13 CanOfWorms: it absolutely does 19:21:22 or did back when trees could wield gscs, anyway 19:21:30 I remember that bug 19:21:44 power lig tech... 19:21:48 CanOfWorms: technically monster poly could already have statueformed you! but yeah, it only applies for intentional casting 19:22:03 oh, is statue form a polymorph result? 19:22:29 a very rare one 19:22:29 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: magistern] 19:23:08 ah 19:23:13 !source player.cc:7359 19:23:13 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/player.cc#L7359 19:23:46 secret tech: zap yourself with polymorph until you get statue from for tomb?! 19:23:52 *form 19:23:58 lol 19:24:19 huh, i vaguely thought we expanded what things yred cared about you killing 19:24:22 !source godconduct.cc 19:24:22 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/godconduct.cc 19:24:27 i remember seeing someone use poly to turn into a mushroom to kill hydras 19:24:31 -!- MakMorn has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:24:49 CanOfWorms: sadly you can't use /polymorph while poly'd 19:25:04 well, that's why you wait on the other side of the stairs 19:25:39 ah yes, the stairs in tomb 19:26:52 the demon restriction is maybe sort of a noticeable one but i think probably better to give piety for them 19:26:54 since a bunch of yred abilities already fall off in ~extended~ and it's cool to be able to at least get the piety to enslave demons now 19:28:19 ahh, right, that's what i was thinking of 19:28:23 the enslaving demons thing 19:29:28 MarvinPA: what about TSO? I wonder if any of the piety-by-holiness things work very well 19:29:38 i think tso is a pretty different case 19:29:48 since the great majority of things don't give piety on kills for tso, esp in 3-rune games 19:29:56 tso gives you piety for all monsters, yeah 19:29:59 -!- magistern has quit [Client Quit] 19:30:02 sight piety 19:30:06 oh, he does? right 19:30:11 "exploration" piety 19:30:26 yeah, that's a weird form of piety gain, but w/e 19:30:48 Not as bad as I'd remembered; it's been so long since I've done TSO from start 19:30:54 well, from altar, I guess 19:31:42 you get piety for seeing anything (except undead/demons) and then piety for killing undead/demons 19:32:23 -!- magistern has quit [Client Quit] 19:32:24 It's basically piety for kills with extra flavor, in effect, so that's fine 19:32:41 actually 19:33:12 i can't see how this works at all 19:33:29 oh hmm 19:33:31 i guess it does 19:34:05 haha 19:34:25 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:34:41 i have no idea how though! conducts are confusing 19:34:46 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:34:49 -!- muravey has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 19:36:47 how the seen conduct works? the trigger in seen_monster()? 19:36:52 Or are you talking about something else 19:37:14 rather odd that seen_monster() is in mon-poly.cc 19:37:42 <|amethyst> gammafunk: I think it was originally static to that file 19:37:55 <|amethyst> and wasn't moved when it was used from another file 19:38:42 my git grep wasn't finding that in view.cc and i'm now deeply, deeply confused 19:38:53 MarvinPA: it's in shout.cc 19:38:59 the call to it, I think 19:39:03 not the definition 19:39:15 monster_shout() calls it, it seems 19:39:24 <|amethyst> hm, no, I'm wrong 19:39:27 ah, there it is also in view.cc! 19:39:31 ohhh 19:39:32 <|amethyst> it used to be in mon-stuff.cc 19:39:37 monstuff!!! 19:39:43 <|amethyst> then wheals put it into mon-poly.cc (???) 19:39:43 the actual thing is in mon-poly.cc 19:39:44 good lord 19:40:07 spotting a monster is like polymorphing it... 19:40:11 i saw it in mon-poly and immediately dismissed it as "oh, this is just some special case for when you polymorph a thing" 19:40:26 <|amethyst> copuld move it to mon-util.cc 19:40:32 <|amethyst> s/copu/cou/ 19:40:32 so was very confused as to why i couldn't find where it *actually* gets called 19:40:43 <|amethyst> the obvious replacement for mon-stuff.cc 19:41:01 it's not the only call to it; also gets called whem monsters burst out of water 19:41:07 -!- G-Flex has joined ##crawl-dev 19:41:23 on, and when monsters change type 19:41:32 s/on/oh/ 19:41:40 some fun code paths 19:42:15 -!- not_robot has quit [Client Quit] 19:42:31 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:42:38 <|amethyst> handle_seen_interrupt and update_monsters_in_view are the main sources 19:42:58 <|amethyst> hm 19:43:20 <|amethyst> no, handle_seen_interrupt would only be for safe monsters 19:43:56 <|amethyst> hm 19:44:02 <|amethyst> I wonder if it is being called 19:44:23 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.19-a0-1143-gfad57b4: Give Fedhas and Cheibriados piety decay 10(5 weeks ago, 1 file, 2+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/fad57b473fa9 19:44:23 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.19-a0-1144-g8367494: Give gods one of two piety decay speeds 10(5 weeks ago, 1 file, 3+ 19-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/836749401050 19:45:22 massive trog buff/chei nerf..... 19:45:32 lotta trog buffs lately 19:45:38 <|amethyst> is "requires corpses to gain piety" not enough reason to have 0 piety decay (late game for example) 19:45:50 <|amethyst> I guess that's just extended 19:45:57 -!- joy1999 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:46:20 i think it probably works out okay since lategame has more corpses now 19:46:33 <|amethyst> and yred has the same problem until you change that :) 19:46:41 didn't 0 piety decay get removed earlier? 19:46:52 oh, no, just in that commit 19:46:54 i'm dumb 19:47:01 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 19:47:39 PleasingFungus: dieselrobin starts in 15 minutes. want to join us in ##dieselrobiin then to do the initial team organization stuff? 19:48:01 ok, though i have to go pick someone up in an hour 19:48:30 i hope to god don't need more than like 15 minutes to assign combos to chars and choose a rotation 19:48:40 ok, wasn't sure what would be required of me 19:49:22 i'm tending towards giving yred piety from undead kills too just in terms of it not being the sole piety-from-kills exception, will probably go with that for the time being and maybe merge generipiety? 19:50:01 might be nice to have a shorter form for how piety kills are described 19:50:20 and merge the conducts, maybe? though that might be trickier wrt the weird per-holiness multipliers 19:50:38 yeah, although it's sort of fiddly in that i guess we do- yeah, that 19:54:33 not urgent, just a thought 19:58:16 -!- PElf is now known as ProzacElf 19:59:32 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:02:51 -!- squidcat has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:07:17 03MarvinPA02 07[generipiety] * 0.19-a0-1150-g8723a9f: Give Yredelemnul piety from undead/demon kills 10(8 minutes ago, 2 files, 6+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8723a9f727b6 20:08:57 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-1144-g8367494 (34) 20:18:47 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-1112-g30d88ab: Make most gods count plant/nonliving kills 10(3 days ago, 2 files, 31+ 8-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/30d88ab2af71 20:18:47 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.19-a0-1113-g1db0fcb: Simplify piety from kill god conducts 10(2 hours ago, 2 files, 9+ 51-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/1db0fcb54f1d 20:18:47 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.19-a0-1114-g7918953: Slightly increase Dithmenos piety costs 10(4 weeks ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/791895340113 20:18:47 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.19-a0-1115-gdedf28e: Don't make "artificial" monsters distinct from nonliving ones 10(4 weeks ago, 15 files, 64+ 73-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/dedf28e0652b 20:18:47 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.19-a0-1116-g2d3246e: Give Trog and Kiku piety from killing undead 10(2 hours ago, 2 files, 7+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/2d3246e1af22 20:18:47 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.19-a0-1148-gfd23481: Merge branch 'master' into generipiety 10(79 minutes ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/fd2348157d3d 20:18:47 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.19-a0-1149-g9310b1c: Fix messaging for trying to worship Yred in wispform 10(69 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/9310b1ceafb2 20:18:47 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.19-a0-1150-g8723a9f: Give Yredelemnul piety from undead/demon kills 10(20 minutes ago, 2 files, 6+ 5-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8723a9f727b6 20:18:47 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.19-a0-1153-g63c3caf: Merge branch 'generipiety' 10(17 minutes ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/63c3cafcced5 20:24:09 merge commits... 20:24:12 -!- aditya has quit [Quit: Bye] 20:25:15 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-] 20:27:47 clearly it's time to fire MarvinPA 20:28:51 the ultimate removal 20:30:27 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 20:30:34 -!- adibis has joined ##crawl-dev 20:35:03 -!- insecticide has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:42:21 -!- valrus_ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 20:43:41 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:44:59 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 20:51:42 -!- Jetnerd has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:56:06 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 47.0/20160604131506]] 21:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:01:29 -!- Dracunos7 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:05:13 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:08:55 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-1153-g63c3caf (34) 21:15:50 -!- adibis has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:17:18 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 21:17:28 -!- qguv has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 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22:43:15 was too lazy to go to the effort of fixing up the inscriptions manual section properly, there's a bunch more to update at some point if anyone feels the urge :P 22:54:51 -!- aditya has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:55:45 -!- valrus_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:08:55 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-1155-gb6eeeff (34) 23:10:03 -!- arcanemastermind has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:21:08 -!- Zxpr1jk has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:26:55 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:28:35 MarvinPA: Wasn't one of the Octopus Rings sustain attributes? 23:30:55 also is piety decay based off of AUT or turns taken? 23:31:02 because the latter would make giving piety decay to chei a big nerf 23:36:56 -!- jehoesefat has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:46:12 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 23:47:44 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote 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