00:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00:16 -!- qguv has quit [Quit: bye] 00:01:38 !locateallall . cbro 00:01:40 gammafunk: CBRO 0.16-a, L1 HESu of No God | CBRO squarelos-0.17 0.17-a, L1 HuWz of No God 00:01:51 not sure what that 0.16-a game is 00:01:53 hrm 00:01:54 henryci (L27 HEWz) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 554: mid cache bogosity: mid 9812 points to DEAD MONSTER mindex=44 mid=0 (Abyss:3) 00:02:55 !locateall . cbro 00:02:55 Failed to locate cbro. 00:03:05 !locateall . 00:03:06 gammafunk: CJR 0.19-a, L16 OpSu of Sif Muna 00:03:22 I have a 0.17 musu on cbro, but it isn't shown 00:03:56 -!- tksquared has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:05:13 -!- hellmonk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:05:26 locateall has a recentish or something 00:05:29 !cmd !locateall 00:05:29 Command: !locateall => .echo $(or $(join " || " $(split " | ^" $(sub 1 $(=locateall.raw $*)))) "Failed to locate $(name_fixup "$*").") 00:05:44 !cmd =locateall.raw 00:05:44 Command: =locateall.raw => !lm ${*:-.} alive s=name,gid o=-name join:" | " pfmt:"^${.}: ${child}" fmt:"\$(!lm ${*:-.} gid=${.} fmt:'$(upper $src) $explbr $cv, L$xl $char of ${god:-No God}')" stub:"^" 00:06:14 i thought 00:06:27 !kw alive 00:06:28 Keyword: alive => recent ktyp= type!=crash 00:06:30 aha 00:06:32 gammafunk: ^ 00:06:48 amalloy: I think locateallall doesn't use this 00:07:03 !kw recent 00:07:03 Keyword: recent => cv>=0.17 00:07:11 yeah it listed 0.16-a 00:07:15 !cmd !locateall 00:07:16 Command: !locateall => .echo $(or $(join " || " $(split " | ^" $(sub 1 $(=locateall.raw $*)))) "Failed to locate $(name_fixup "$*").") 00:07:17 !cmd !locateallall 00:07:17 Command: !locateallall => .echo $(or $(join " || " $(split " | ^" $(sub 1 $(=locateall.rawall $*)))) "Failed to locate $(name_fixup "$*").") 00:07:27 !cmd =locateallall.rawall 00:07:28 No command =locateallall.rawall 00:07:35 !cmd =locateall.rawall 00:07:36 Command: =locateall.rawall => !lm ${*:-.} alive_all s=name,gid o=-name join:" | " pfmt:"^${.}: ${child}" fmt:"\$(!lm ${*:-.} gid=${.} fmt:'$(upper $src) $explbr $cv, L$xl $char of ${god:-No God}')" stub:"^" 00:07:38 that is what i just looked up 00:07:41 !kw alive_all 00:07:41 Keyword: alive_all => ktyp= type!=crash 00:07:46 see, it uses alive_all 00:08:00 oh you used allall 00:08:03 I'm using locateallall, not locateall, yeah 00:08:17 didn't know about alive_all, nice kw 00:08:43 oh I knoew! 00:08:44 *know 00:08:46 it's wiz mode 00:08:54 my musu is in wizmode, so the game is over 00:09:12 hoisted by my own petard 00:09:43 not sure what that 0.16-a hesu is, though 00:10:02 !lm . alive_all hesu cbro 00:10:03 1. [2014-09-15 05:49:52] gammafunk the Caller (L1 HESu) began the quest for the Orb on turn 0. (D:1) 00:10:06 !lm . alive_all hesu cbro x=file 00:10:07 1. [2014-09-15 05:49:52] [file=cbro/crawl/meta/git/milestones] gammafunk the Caller (L1 HESu) began the quest for the Orb on turn 0. (D:1) 00:10:46 that may be a wizmode game before we cleaned up the milestone behaviour 00:10:53 !lm . alive_all hesu cbro x=gid 00:10:54 1. [2014-09-15 05:49:52] [game_key=gammafunk:cbro:20140815054951S] gammafunk the Caller (L1 HESu) began the quest for the Orb on turn 0. (D:1) 00:11:07 !lm . gid=game_key=gammafunk:cbro:20140815054951S s=milestone 00:11:08 No milestones for gammafunk (gid=game_key=gammafunk:cbro:20140815054951S). 00:11:23 !lm . gid=gammafunk:cbro:20140815054951S s=milestone 00:11:24 One milestone for gammafunk (gid=gammafunk:cbro:20140815054951S): began the quest for the Orb. 00:11:40 hrm, maybe wizmode before we added a wizmode milestone, not sure 00:13:36 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 00:15:21 PleasingFungus: that "Desolation of Salt" branch you made, was that part of r-i's proposal? 00:15:26 nope 00:15:28 totally unrelated 00:15:30 oh ok 00:15:32 it's my own baby 00:15:34 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 00:15:37 you weren't supposed to see it yet!! 00:15:43 pretend you didn't, unless it's funnier not to 00:15:47 lucky for you I'm barely literate 00:16:00 ha! i'm not literate at all! 00:16:13 I was thinking of maybe working on the finite Pan situation 00:16:29 that got a bit up in the air with r-i's proposal, but I'm not sure much further work is coming there 00:16:55 what is this proposal? 00:16:55 guess I would need to take stock of what all is proposed 00:17:19 Brannock: Have you seen CRD? r-i sent an email about it 00:17:32 But it's just one set of ideas, kind of more ambitious tbh 00:17:34 I've been subscribed for a while but I don't think I'm getting all the emails. It seems sporadic whether or not I get CRD emails 00:17:39 'a while' being a few years 00:17:47 well crd emails are already sporadic 00:18:03 but you can read the mailing list archive online from the crawl sourceforge page 00:18:14 My email to c-r-d hasn't gotten approved yet :'( 00:18:21 dpeg must be busy 00:18:46 crd is powerful, and very real, just like our planning documents 00:19:18 https://sourceforge.net/projects/crawl-ref/ could use some updating 00:19:48 Brannock: https://sourceforge.net/p/crawl-ref/mailman/crawl-ref-discuss/ is the SF archive 00:21:23 pinned that to peruse tomorrow once I'm rested 00:21:24 thank you 00:21:34 !seen dpeg_ 00:21:34 I last saw dpeg_ at Sun Jul 10 08:53:49 2016 UTC (4w 2d 19h 27m 45s ago) joining the channel. 00:21:36 !seen dpeg 00:21:36 I last saw dpeg at Tue Jul 19 00:26:14 2016 UTC (3w 1d 3h 55m 22s ago) quitting, saying 'Quit: Lost terminal'. 00:21:47 he lives on in my heart 00:22:46 One day, Grunt will return to us. And then Crawl 1.0 will be released. Amen. 00:22:59 henryci (L27 HEWz) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 554: mid cache bogosity: mid 11588 points to DEAD MONSTER mindex=75 mid=0 (Abyss:3) 00:23:46 henryci (L27 HEWz) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 554: mid cache bogosity: mid 11387 points to DEAD MONSTER mindex=32 mid=0 (Abyss:3) 00:30:52 debating whether or not this is a bug: if Maurice (or other invisible-capable, zap-capable monsters) is invisible while zapping an already known (but not charges-identified) wand, it does not increment the zap count on the wand when you pick it up 00:31:06 lol 00:31:17 i'd say not a bug. it could be any invisible monster zapping a wand! 00:32:13 I was able to reproduce it so it's at least consistent 00:32:34 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:33:23 -!- tksquared has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:34:30 -!- debo_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:34:53 -!- debo_ is now known as Guest85767 00:35:52 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 00:38:33 -!- Guest85767 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:38:44 that sounds like intended behaviour, yes 00:40:15 -!- cait has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:43:15 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 00:45:09 -!- eb has quit [] 00:45:53 -!- broquain1 is now known as broquaint 00:48:44 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 00:54:34 -!- ig0rbit has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:55:32 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:58:59 ugh, these 'cannot pick a layout' bugs... 00:59:23 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 00:59:40 why, it could be any invisible monster zapping *any* wand! 00:59:58 dang 01:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:00:26 -!- ByteStorm has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:01:00 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 01:01:18 !seen gammafunk 01:01:18 I last saw gammafunk at Wed Aug 10 04:22:46 2016 UTC (38m 31s ago) saying 'One day, Grunt will return to us. And then Crawl 1.0 will be released. Amen.' on ##crawl-dev. 01:03:56 that's a good seen 01:04:07 heh 01:09:14 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 01:10:14 -!- joy1999 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:14:09 -!- olscumpy has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:14:52 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:18:34 New branch created: generipiety (1 commit) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/tree/generipiety 01:18:34 03PleasingFungus02 07[generipiety] * 0.19-a0-1112-g30d88ab: Make most gods count plant/nonliving kills 10(3 minutes ago, 2 files, 31+ 8-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/30d88ab2af71 01:19:47 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-1111-gcceb26a (34) 01:21:14 -!- Nomi has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:21:58 -!- ig0rb1t has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:24:10 -!- tupper has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:27:59 -!- joy1999 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:28:00 -!- aditya has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:29:16 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: magistern] 01:33:01 -!- adibis has quit [Quit: Bye] 01:33:49 plz a bug where I can kill ordinary plants for piety plz... 01:34:41 alternately, a great feature for April 1st 01:35:57 :) 01:36:37 @??plant 01:36:37 plant (03P) | Spd: 070 | HD: 10 | HP: 45-65 | AC/EV: 10/0 | 03plant, unbreathing | Res: 13magic(immune), 03poison, 12drown, 13neg+++, 13torm | XP: 0 | Sz: small | Int: brainless. 01:36:45 wow, plants have nontrivial HD 01:37:02 okawaru accepts your kill. 01:37:55 @??bush 01:37:55 bush (07P) | Spd: 070 | HD: 20 | HP: 89-130 | AC/EV: 15/0 | 03plant, unbreathing | Res: 13magic(immune), 03poison, 12drown, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 04fire | XP: 0 | Sz: Big | Int: brainless. 01:38:10 heh, i never have understood why bushes are so hard to kill 01:40:27 they're supposed to be, like, big hedges 01:41:19 should long blades get a slaying bonus then 01:41:33 wormsofcan the Hedgeclipper 01:41:53 "it cuts hydra heads and trims hedges" 01:42:26 heh 01:43:02 good thing they have rdrown though 01:43:30 @??oklob 01:43:30 unknown monster: "oklob" 01:43:33 @??oklob plant 01:43:33 oklob plant (09P) | Spd: 10 (07stationary) | HD: 10 | HP: 47-65 | AC/EV: 10/0 | 03plant, unbreathing | Res: 06magic(40), 03poison, 08acid+++, 12drown, 13neg+++, 13torm | XP: 560 | Sp: spit acid (3d7) [11!AM, 06!sil] | Sz: small | Int: brainless. 01:43:46 this raises several questions about koboldina's tv. 01:45:22 -!- Konstantin has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:45:47 -!- VoxSomniator has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:47:00 ? 01:51:13 I don't think it does? 01:51:19 She drowned some of her oklobs 01:51:26 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:51:39 but they have... rdrown??? 01:51:51 that's not the same thing 01:51:56 oh 01:52:09 obviously 01:52:12 come on, CanOfWorms. 01:52:13 what does rdrown do then 01:52:21 water elementals 01:52:30 it resists the af_drown thing and I think water beam? 01:52:34 wouldn't that be covered by unbreathing, though? 01:52:35 maybe latter is different 01:52:46 @??the royal jelly 01:52:46 Royal Jelly (08J) | Spd: 14 | HD: 21 | HP: 185-273 | AC/EV: 8/4 | Dam: 5008(acid:7d3), 3008(acid:7d3) | 04eats items, see invisible, unbreathing | Res: 06magic(180), 03poison, 08acid+++, 08blind, 12drown | Vul: 11silver | XP: 14234 | Sz: Large | Int: brainless. 01:53:10 yeah, you can drown trj by getting deep water under it 01:53:26 is there a difference between unbreathing and rdrown then? 01:53:29 I don't really know man, I just work here 01:53:33 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 01:53:45 I can let you speak to my supervisor 01:53:46 !seen Grunt 01:53:46 I last saw Grunt at Fri Mar 25 18:44:03 2016 UTC (19w 4d 11h 9m 43s ago) parting ##crawl-sequell, saying 'chanpart'. 01:53:50 He should be back soon 01:53:57 CanOfWorms: mummies 01:54:12 well, *I* last saw grunt at sgdq 01:54:15 @??mummy 01:54:15 mummy (15M) | Spd: 6 | HD: 3 | HP: 16-23 | AC/EV: 3/6 | Dam: 20 | 07undead, 10doors, evil, unbreathing | Res: 06magic(20), 02cold, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 04fire, 08holy++ | XP: 17 | Sz: Medium | Int: human. 01:54:23 really, drown? 01:54:33 that's true, he did give couch commentary 01:54:53 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-1111-gcceb26a 01:54:55 grunt did? 01:54:59 the interaction with rDrown and monster drowning is pre weird iirc 01:55:03 the zelda 4 swords run 01:55:13 he was the couch assist 01:55:17 huh 01:55:29 crawl is like zelda 01:56:13 yeah, link is just a HEFi 01:56:30 dang 01:57:15 too bad he doesn't know about the real power combo, DEFi 01:57:26 that might be young link 01:58:13 i don't know if i can live in a world where gammafunk is an incarnation of young link 01:58:39 it would reframe all his minmay actions in an uncomfortable light 01:58:49 I thought gammafunk was the DEAM 01:59:03 no, his first win was DEFi 01:59:18 it's in his genes 02:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:01:20 DEFi is an amalloy combo! 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(generipiety - 30d88ab #6319 : Nicholas Feinberg): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/151121465 02:01:37 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 02:01:45 !lastgames . defi 02:01:45 No games for amalloy 02:02:20 !lg amalloy de s=cls 02:02:20 9 games for amalloy (de): 5x Fire Elementalist, 2x Wizard, Wanderer, Conjurer 02:03:06 !lg amalloy de s=cls / won 02:03:07 3/9 games for amalloy (de): 2/2x Wizard [100.00%], 1/5x Fire Elementalist [20.00%], 0/1x Wanderer [0.00%], 0/1x Conjurer [0.00%] 02:03:23 alright, I've done it 02:03:28 I've compiled the list of smash combos 02:03:35 oh no... 02:03:38 http://puu.sh/qw2an/fca5dabb1e.png 02:03:55 it's even a PNG... 02:04:00 that's right 02:04:15 samus a DgCj....now that is a head scratcher 02:04:22 I would say DgAr or something 02:04:25 well she shoots stuff 02:04:30 yeah, so Ar! 02:04:31 and she has a charge shot 02:04:32 donkey kong OP 02:04:38 searing... ray??? 02:04:48 mario is *not* a FE! 02:04:51 this is all completely wrong 02:05:13 well let's see YOUR smash combo list 02:05:33 the trap is sprung! 02:06:32 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:06:46 cunningham's law in action 02:07:54 learn add todo smashrl 02:08:20 -!- squidcat has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:09:07 pikachu is fine as FeAE, link is fine as HEFi, but I think actually HESk might work better, mario/luigi are HuWr, Yoshi is fine as DrMo, Samus DgAr, Fox is KoAr 02:09:15 I think the others just don't have a good representation 02:09:31 making d. kong Tr and kirby/jigglypuff as Op is weird 02:09:34 Ness is definitely a hawz though 02:09:44 Ness I don't even know where he's from 02:09:46 earthbound? 02:09:56 yeah 02:09:56 isn't ness just a kid 02:10:00 he's a psychic kid 02:10:10 Halflings are children, CanOfWorms 02:10:13 *are not 02:10:18 and they're not psychic 02:10:20 they're tiny, so close enough 02:10:28 I could make him spwz 02:10:30 Wz kind of sucks though 02:10:32 He's just HuWz 02:10:36 a young HuWz 02:10:36 and Ness is incredibly powerful 02:10:43 link is HEFi because Fi starts with a shield :v 02:10:56 link doesn't start with a shield in all zeldas 02:11:08 but he has one in smash, which is what counts 02:11:09 link doesn't start with a shield in most zeldas 02:11:32 what zeldas *does* he start with a shield in? 02:11:36 yeah I kind of forgot which ones he did start with 02:11:46 umm, *zelda doesn't start with a shield 02:12:01 nice try chequers 02:12:58 captain falcon is probably the harder one to match 02:12:58 my LoZ vault will distinctly feature a *shieldless* Link 02:13:17 and Kirby the octopode will not be making an appearance 02:13:30 i think he starts with a shield in LoZ II? 02:14:15 Link as HEGl would be weird 02:14:31 nets are basically bombs right 02:14:42 crawl does need bomb items 02:14:54 isn't that fulminant prisms 02:15:03 and lrd 02:15:05 depending on which function you want 02:15:41 evokable bombs and like-like monsters and the 3 triforce runes is what I want 02:15:56 common misconception, CanOfWorms: spells are not items. 02:16:17 gammafunk: wand of fireball and jellies? 02:16:43 wand of whatnow? 02:17:02 wand of tremors 02:20:21 -!- mong has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:24:13 wand of jellies! 02:29:47 -!- valrus_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:34:14 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 02:34:38 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 02:37:46 -!- GauHelldragon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:51:56 -!- Zekka_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:53:49 -!- omnirizon has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:53:51 Monster database of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-1111-gcceb26a 02:56:16 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 02:57:50 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 47.0/20160604131506]] 03:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:05:38 -!- nikheizen has quit [Quit: leaving] 03:07:20 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 03:07:58 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 03:12:23 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.19-a0-1111-gcceb26a (34) 03:17:35 johnstein: this scoreboard now includes cbro games: https://crawl.project357.org/static/scoreboard/index.html 03:17:43 ??cjr 03:17:43 cjr[1/2]: https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/ Hosted in Montreal by Zibudo (admin@jorgrun.rocks). SSH login info: https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/console.html. 03:17:49 !seen zibudo 03:17:49 I last saw ZiBuDo at Sat Aug 6 02:20:34 2016 UTC (4d 4h 57m 14s ago) quitting, saying 'Ping timeout: 260 seconds'. 03:17:56 !tell zibudo https://crawl.project357.org/static/scoreboard/index.html now includes cjr games 03:17:57 chequers: OK, I'll let zibudo know. 03:18:07 ??cxc 03:18:07 cXc[1/2]: Server in France: CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM -- ssh port 22, username crawl, uses CAO key (available at http://CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM/crawl/keys/). Webtiles address: http://CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM 03:18:16 ??cpo 03:18:16 cpo[1/1]: DCSS server in Sydney. Run by chequers. https://crawl.project357.org 03:22:07 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 03:27:54 -!- Cimanyd has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:29:10 cszo games coming soon? 03:30:18 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:30:21 -!- gressup has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:30:49 -!- Smee has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:31:12 -!- flappity_ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 03:37:26 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 03:44:11 anyone know how to turn off fancy bolt targeting? 03:44:23 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 03:48:25 -!- Hiffwe has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:51:24 incidentally i swear stone arrow was targeting like shock/lightning bolt/etc earlier 03:51:34 -!- MaBunny has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:51:53 targeting the wall behind the dude i wanted to shoot it at 03:52:16 muravey: you can't 03:52:30 :( 03:52:49 tbh after trying to play a damage spell user in trunk i recommend just going trog on all your characters for now 03:53:16 haha 03:53:44 targeting things is just sooo slow now 03:54:09 IE is probably still all right i guess 03:57:37 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:57:37 does the devteam just hate conjurers or is there a fix planned 03:58:24 it doesn't even multizap consistently 03:58:34 i have to manually retarget it 04:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:02:45 -!- Jafet has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:08:48 wow, what's the fundamental change with targetting? 04:09:26 I just played a EE using bolt spells all the time, and I guess I didn't notice, but I don't play conj chars all the time 04:09:59 -!- PElf has joined ##crawl-dev 04:19:53 -!- muravey has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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I have found some cpo players to team up with so you can if you want 07:07:28 !seen Pleasingfungus 07:07:28 I last saw PleasingFungus at Wed Aug 10 06:57:50 2016 UTC (4h 9m 39s ago) quitting, saying 'Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 47.0/20160604131506]'. 07:07:31 hmm 07:08:04 !seen amalloy 07:08:04 I last saw amalloy at Wed Aug 10 06:06:46 2016 UTC (5h 1m 19s ago) saying 'cunningham's law in action' on ##crawl-dev. 07:09:20 -!- } has quit [] 07:22:29 -!- docnvk has quit [Excess Flood] 07:29:15 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:34:22 @??juggernaut perm_ench:berserk 07:34:22 juggernaut (09C) | Spd: 22-23 (atk: 450%) | HD: 20 | HP: 207-297 | AC/EV: 20/5 | Dam: 120, 60 | 10doors, fighter, see invisible | Res: 06magic(120), 12drown | XP: 7238 | Sz: Giant | Int: human. 07:34:37 I wonder if this has happened 07:35:03 !lg * killer=juggernaut max=sdam x=sdam 07:35:04 214. [sdam=169] Moloch the Sorcerer (L27 OpFE of Vehumet), slain by a juggernaut on Zig:16 on 2016-04-15 12:36:07, with 587994 points after 76540 turns and 6:11:35. 07:35:31 apparently it has 07:35:39 or at least mighted 07:37:31 -!- Ultraviolent4 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:44:27 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:17:05 -!- dalwyn has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:20:57 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 08:22:34 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: magistern] 08:30:09 -!- cmcbot has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:30:17 !lg * killer=juggernaut max=sdam x=sdam -log 08:30:18 214. Moloch, XL27 OpFE, T:76540: http://crawl.xtahua.com/crawl/morgue/Moloch/morgue-Moloch-20160415-123607.txt 08:30:52 looks like the juggernaut attacked twice in a turn 08:31:32 <|amethyst> !lg * killer=juggernaut max=sdam x=dam,sdam,tdam 08:31:33 214. [dam=52;sdam=169;tdam=169] Moloch the Sorcerer (L27 OpFE of Vehumet), slain by a juggernaut on Zig:16 on 2016-04-15 12:36:07, with 587994 points after 76540 turns and 6:11:35. 08:31:46 <|amethyst> !lg * killer=juggernaut max=dam 08:31:47 214. klsh78012 the Malleable (L27 DsIE of Makhleb), mangled by a juggernaut on Zig:12 (ziggurat_pillar_centre_o) on 2015-11-11 13:47:56, with 975162 points after 65791 turns and 5:01:57. 08:31:50 <|amethyst> !lg * killer=juggernaut max=dam x=dam 08:31:51 214. [dam=132] klsh78012 the Malleable (L27 DsIE of Makhleb), mangled by a juggernaut on Zig:12 (ziggurat_pillar_centre_o) on 2015-11-11 13:47:56, with 975162 points after 65791 turns and 5:01:57. 08:31:55 You could see a juggernaut (berserk), 08:32:12 man you have to be brave to do a zig with 1 AC 08:34:11 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:35:37 lol 08:35:41 or stupid 08:36:07 how the heck does a juggernaut attack twice in a turn 08:37:08 it has 2 attacks 08:37:19 you sure it's not just the two attacks 08:37:59 !dam !!!! 08:38:00 71.0 - 143.0 08:38:07 !dam !!! 08:38:07 35.0 - 71.0 08:38:25 1d120 and 1d60 08:38:31 both rolled high 08:38:42 so it was at least a mighted jugg 08:39:13 You could see a juggernaut (berserk) 08:39:14 yeah 08:39:29 -!- asdf_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:39:38 missed that before :P 08:40:59 anyway moral of the story is: no moths of wrath in depths please 08:42:04 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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ZZZzzz…] 13:01:33 <|amethyst> (inasmuch as we want to retain Yred's restrictions) 13:03:07 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 13:03:30 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 13:04:33 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 13:05:11 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.19-a0-1111-gcceb26a (34) 13:05:27 -!- Sonata has quit [Read error: Network is unreachable] 13:05:28 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:10:05 khrogbot (L21 MiGl) (Depths:2) 13:11:40 -!- HellTiger has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 13:24:06 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:30:40 -!- sjl has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:32:55 -!- Dracunos7 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:35:24 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 13:41:57 -!- Zxpr1jk has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:49:34 -!- ldf has quit [Quit: ldf] 13:52:18 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:52:20 -!- JimmahDean has quit [] 13:53:52 -!- Jafet has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:00:06 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:00:36 henryci (L27 HEWz) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 554: mid cache bogosity: mid 13921 points to starcursed mass mindex=17 mid=13915 (Abyss:1) 14:04:57 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 14:05:21 !crashlog khrogbot 14:05:21 PleasingFungus: You have 3 messages. Use !messages to read them. 14:05:21 1. khrogbot, XL21 MiGl, T:42168 (milestone): https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/morgue/khrogbot/crash-khrogbot-20160810-171003.txt 14:05:40 crash in a lua call 14:05:42 not ideal 14:05:59 &rc khrogbot 14:06:00 http://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/rcfiles/crawl-git/khrogbot.rc 14:06:18 good stress test 14:07:35 MarvinPA: no super strong feeling about not destroying undead. i feel like it'd be a good flavor thing for one of yred/kiku, but probably doesn't need to be on both or on trog 14:07:37 henryci (L27 HEWz) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 554: mid cache bogosity: mid 14116 points to DEAD MONSTER mindex=26 mid=0 (Abyss:1) 14:07:48 *about gods not giving piety for destroying undead 14:23:08 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 14:31:14 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 14:50:45 -!- AmyBSOD has joined ##crawl-dev 14:51:23 PleasingFungus: ping :) I noticed you were talking about nethack variants on the somethingawful forums? 14:52:28 hello! 14:52:31 a few months ago, maybe? 14:52:53 someone else said you were asking for me a while ago 14:52:59 yes, possibly; I'm wondering, do you play nethack sometimes? 14:53:04 never, sorry 14:53:15 ah ok. 14:55:21 mainly I was interested in your knowledge about my variant, but if you're not playing it then it's kinda moot. Sorry to have disturbed you. 14:55:40 yeah, sorry, all i've done is read bits of the wiki 14:55:47 and that nethack tool-assisted speedrun 14:58:29 -!- LexAckson_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:01:31 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 15:03:58 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 15:09:29 -!- AmyBSOD has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:14:03 -!- edsrzf has joined ##crawl-dev 15:16:55 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:22:18 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:27:55 -!- ldf has joined ##crawl-dev 15:29:37 -!- kdrnic has joined ##crawl-dev 15:30:42 -!- MakMorn has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 15:31:52 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 15:32:57 -!- Doesnty has joined ##crawl-dev 15:38:45 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:49:36 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 15:52:23 -!- nikheizen has joined ##crawl-dev 15:53:49 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:55:44 -!- HellTiger_NB has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:55:48 -!- MakMorn has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:57:52 -!- jehoesefat has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:58:52 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 15:59:50 -!- Homage_ has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 47.0/20160604131506]] 15:59:58 !messages 15:59:58 No messages for Kramin. 16:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:00:48 hey PleasingFungus did you see my message? 16:00:57 ya 16:01:13 idk. only switch if you want to. i'm fine with whatever 16:01:42 if you want to play go ahead and join amalloy's team 16:01:59 I'd prefer playing on cpo if possible :) 16:02:20 heh 16:02:24 ok, i'll talk to him whenever he's around 16:03:40 treant root ability isn't in mon-abil.cc, where can I find it? 16:03:45 (unless I overlooked something) 16:04:06 mon-spell 16:04:09 thanks 16:04:10 probably 16:05:44 oh i was searching 'treant' not 'mangrove', that's my problem 16:06:00 renaming! 16:08:53 -!- scummos__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:09:17 -!- Prozacelf has joined ##crawl-dev 16:12:13 to me? 16:14:57 amalloy: yes, probably 16:16:59 i'm told i'm on your team now 16:17:00 not kramin 16:17:33 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:17:40 if that's all g with you amalloy 16:19:13 -!- jehoesefat has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:20:57 Hey, is it possible to give specific hilites to certain monsters? Specifically I want to highlight some derived undead. 16:21:27 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:21:30 highlight? 16:21:35 what do you mean? 16:22:00 like how distracted monsters are highlighted 16:22:31 the top-right ? icon? 16:22:51 console character highlight 16:22:55 yeah sounds great 16:22:57 lol 16:23:00 i never liked kramin anyway 16:23:04 oh 16:23:08 heh 16:23:10 i don't know anything about console. 16:23:13 i doubt it but idk 16:23:22 I dont think you can 16:23:39 best you can do is add a force_more for when it comes in to view 16:23:46 what specifically did you want to highlight? i'm curious now. specific types of zombies? 16:24:15 juggernaut xyz, gdragon sims 16:24:46 alternatively I'll probably just change their glyph to red Z 16:25:20 ah yeah, you can change glyphs 16:25:37 force_more unfortunately wouldn't help when they are summoned by summon undead spell 16:25:42 afaik 16:25:47 true 16:26:02 !lg * recent pan s=ikiller 16:26:02 1080 games for * (recent pan): 111x a hellion, 83x a Brimstone Fiend, 75x Lom Lobon, 65x Gloorx Vloq, 61x Cerebov, 60x a daeva, 53x, 53x a Hell Sentinel, 38x Mnoleg, 31x an Executioner, 24x an Ice Fiend, 23x a seraph, 22x a balrug, 17x a smoke demon, 14x a reaper, 14x a cacodemon, 11x an angel, 10x a Tzitzimitl, 9x a blizzard demon, 9x a shadow demon, 7x a soul eater, 6x an apis, 6x a sun demon, 6... 16:26:11 !lg * recent panhell s=killer 16:26:11 No keyword 'panhell' 16:26:19 !lg * recent hellpan s=killer 16:26:19 No keyword 'hellpan' 16:26:21 hm 16:26:22 ah well 16:26:26 !lg * recent hells s=killer 16:26:27 1047 games for * (recent hells): 132x a Brimstone Fiend, 126x an iron giant, 124x a hellion, 109x a Hell Sentinel, 81x Antaeus, 59x, 54x a reaper, 41x an Ice Fiend, 40x a shard shrike, 31x the Serpent of Hell, 29x a Tzitzimitl, 16x Asmodeus, 13x Ereshkigal, 12x a doom hound, 12x an elemental wellspring, 11x a balrug, 10x a stone giant, 9x Dispater, 8x an eldritch tentacle, 8x an ice dragon, 8x a b... 16:26:38 !lg * recent pan s=killer 16:26:39 1080 games for * (recent pan): 116x a hellion, 83x a Brimstone Fiend, 67x Lom Lobon, 67x a daeva, 58x a Hell Sentinel, 56x Cerebov, 56x an Executioner, 53x, 38x Gloorx Vloq, 25x an Ice Fiend, 19x a smoke demon, 18x a balrug, 17x Mnoleg, 16x a reaper, 16x an angel, 14x a cacodemon, 13x a large abomination, 11x a sun demon, 11x a Tzitzimitl, 11x a seraph, 9x a blizzard demon, 9x a tentacled monstros... 16:27:01 lmao all those IG deaths 16:27:07 nice 16:27:33 IGs almost killed me recently 16:28:19 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:28:53 gammafunk was talking about wanting to nerf them in another way than i did 16:29:00 they're kind of ludicrously lethal 16:29:07 !lg * hells cv=0.18 s=killer 16:29:08 170 games for * (hells cv=0.18): 21x an iron giant, 21x a hellion, 19x a Hell Sentinel, 19x a Brimstone Fiend, 15x, 13x Antaeus, 9x a shard shrike, 9x a reaper, 8x a Tzitzimitl, 4x an Ice Fiend, 3x Ereshkigal, 3x a balrug, 2x Asmodeus, 2x a storm dragon, 2x a war gargoyle, 2x the Serpent of Hell, 2x an eldritch tentacle, 2x an elemental wellspring, a blizzard demon, a hell hound, a frost giant zom... 16:29:17 !lg * hells cv=0.18-a s=killer 16:29:18 415 games for * (hells cv=0.18-a): 71x an iron giant, 54x a Brimstone Fiend, 41x a hellion, 41x a Hell Sentinel, 31x Antaeus, 22x, 19x a reaper, 12x the Serpent of Hell, 10x an Ice Fiend, 10x a shard shrike, 8x a stone giant, 8x a doom hound, 7x Asmodeus, 7x a Tzitzimitl, 6x Ereshkigal, 4x a shadow dragon, 4x a lich, 4x a balrug, 4x an ice dragon, 3x a blizzard demon, 3x an elemental wellspring, 3... 16:29:35 nerfs seem to have brought them down a little, at least 16:30:24 i was in dis with a zombie army though, so just disengaging from melee was how to not die 16:32:01 I disagree 16:32:07 they are lower than normal speed 16:32:34 their biggest problem is their throw move being wierd 16:32:45 it ignores something iirc? 16:34:02 @??iron giant 16:34:02 iron giant (10C) | Spd: 8 | HD: 22 | HP: 179-267 | AC/EV: 18/2 | Dam: 75 | 10items, 10doors, fighter, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(120), 05fire, 02cold, 03poison, 12drown | XP: 3705 | Sp: iron shot (3d37), throw [11!AM, 06!sil] | Sz: Giant | Int: human. 16:34:08 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:34:41 also, 3d37 iron shot 16:34:43 throw 'ignores' GDR, depending on whether you think it's natural for GDR to affect throwing 16:34:53 agh, ghdr 16:34:55 *gdr 16:35:01 oh just GDR? 16:35:09 yeah, checks AC 16:35:10 heh, i'd thought i put them to speed 7 16:35:30 now that they're speed 8, they're way less actually dangerous than they were 16:35:47 I guess it just seems wierd because it seems like a melee attack 16:36:04 but that's fine 16:36:05 throw has never really worked quite as well as I'd hoped 16:36:20 monster throwing has worked better 16:36:22 er 16:36:24 didn't they previously throw other Cs at you? 16:36:25 monsters throwing monsters 16:36:29 i don't think so 16:36:41 !killratio * robin current trunk 16:36:42 or was that just an idea 16:36:43 No battles for * and robin (current trunk). 16:36:46 no, they never throw other hostiles, that's a robin/polyphemus thing 16:36:47 oops 16:36:52 !killratio robin * current trunk 16:37:22 robin wins 12.38% of battles against * (current trunk). 16:37:31 monster throwing may also be a ragged hierophant mechanic (<- desolation mechanics preview!!!) 16:37:38 i'm undecided 16:37:42 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 16:37:57 i was going to put monster throwing and battlecry on the same desolation monster and then i thought, wait a second... 16:38:02 -!- PsyMar has quit [Quit: witty quit message goes here] 16:38:58 desolation? 16:39:31 secret project 16:39:35 i've said too much! 16:42:20 PleasingFungus: you have to go to ##dieselrobin and $signup pending-removals 16:43:03 PleasingFungus: also, $nominate FoWr or whatever other dumb combo you think will be good for comborobin 16:43:07 dieselrobin 16:46:33 -!- LexAckson_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:46:45 -!- Cacophony has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:51:40 -!- valrus_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:51:40 Kramin: So how do you reglyph a specific derived undead? 16:52:38 mon_glyph += juggernaut skeleton : blue 16:52:40 maybe? 16:52:59 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 16:54:05 that works for most monsters; i'd expect it to work for derived undead too but who knows 16:54:19 -!- Kranix has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 16:54:53 -!- Kenran has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:55:42 "juggernaut skeleton : lightgreen" 16:55:47 oops 16:55:52 Unknown Monster error 16:56:11 yeah, since they're not their own monster type (just a different base type) 16:56:26 i wonder what kind of reglyphing you can do for ds/dr monsters 16:56:57 unemployment should be abolished 16:56:59 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 16:59:39 hmm. Well alternatively you could prevent Juggernauts from leaving corpses. 16:59:50 would also solve my problem 17:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:00:13 -!- Telnaior has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:00:19 -!- cait has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:00:59 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:03:01 would it? jug skeletons can be placed directly 17:03:41 you can have derived undead of monsters which cannot leave corpses and skeletons? 17:04:56 no, you can't 17:05:15 i think there's miscommunication going on here 17:07:16 -!- Doesnty has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:09:52 -!- homsar has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:10:29 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 17:11:55 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:15:31 <|amethyst> mon_glyph overrides are stored and looked up purely by monster type, so you cannot 17:16:08 <|amethyst> would be possible to extend that to allow (type, base type) combinations but it would take some work to do (including specifying a config syntax) 17:18:04 <|amethyst> If someone wanted to write up an bug report on that (even though it's really a feature request), I'd consider turning it into an implementable :) 17:20:29 -!- mamgar has quit [Client Quit] 17:21:01 your generosity... incredible...! 17:27:34 sure, should I write that on mantis? 17:27:39 -!- Yermak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:28:22 nikheizen: yes 17:30:49 -!- Dracunos-m has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:33:47 -!- Tiltorax_ is now known as Torax_ 17:33:59 -!- smee has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:36:06 -!- Tiltorax has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:37:49 .rcfile Cannot set mon_glyph for derived undead 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10604 by nikheizen 17:38:31 "dot" rcfile?! bug report *rejected*! 17:40:32 !banish gammafunk 17:40:32 nikheizen casts a spell. gammafunk is cast into the Abyss! 17:41:23 so it looks like you won't get uskayaw piety from e.g. sticky flame damage if you stand still or move while it's damaging the monster 17:41:36 but you will get piety if you throw stones at the floor each turn while the sticky flame burns the monster 17:42:21 hm. 17:42:27 that's a bit odd 17:44:27 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 17:46:16 -!- Sonata has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:50:45 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:51:20 -!- Patashu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:53:37 -!- debo has quit [Read error: No route to host] 17:53:58 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 17:54:47 yeah, I just tested it 17:54:52 what I said is precisely correct 17:55:53 !source exercise.cc:288 17:55:53 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/exercise.cc#L288 17:56:05 lol 17:56:12 time to rethink! 17:56:17 !seen lasty 17:56:17 I last saw Lasty at Thu Aug 4 11:36:33 2016 UTC (6d 10h 19m 44s ago) quitting, saying 'Ping timeout: 240 seconds'. 17:56:44 "rethink" implies thought went into it initially, which I don't think is true for this particlar block of code 17:57:15 oh, come on. 17:57:17 you're being unfair. 17:57:57 it seems quite impossible for this prop to be useful 17:59:26 <|amethyst> nikheizen: Thanks, retitled, recategorized, and a note added 17:59:30 <|amethyst> !bug 10604 17:59:30 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10604 17:59:46 it doesn't work, but you can see why someone might reasonably think that it would. 18:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:02:23 Why doesn't this work? 18:02:57 because monsters can be damaged on turns where you didn't throw anything 18:03:08 Unstable branch on underhound.eu updated to: 0.19-a0-1111-gcceb26a (34) 18:04:11 the best solution i can think of is not great 18:04:23 can't uskayaw just give piety for all damage? 18:04:26 |amethyst: Oh I didn't see the "Implementables" category in the initial form. 18:04:49 lasty seemed to think that didn't work well 18:04:52 wrt poison especially 18:05:20 set global state at the start of players' turns, unset it at the end, check that state when seeing if you give out piety for damage in monster::ouch 18:05:42 i guess the current thing is already using global state, so it's not *worse* 18:06:06 idk. i'd prefer to let lasty make the call here, but he's dead 18:06:17 so probably someone else will need to fix things before release 18:06:40 <|amethyst> nikheizen: that's because it's not there for you; only devs can select it 18:07:36 -!- Prozacelf has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Wibbly Wobbly IRC] 18:08:23 Hah. Okay. 18:09:54 <|amethyst> (otherwise, Mantis would be full of dubious feature requests and it would be hard for potentially contributors to tell what they can do that would actually get committed) 18:10:00 <|amethyst> s/ially/ial/ 18:14:02 -!- koboldina has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:15:51 -!- Torax_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:29:41 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 18:31:57 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:33:52 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: I'm not here right now.] 18:35:04 -!- fufumann has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:38:04 -!- dtsund has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:51:50 -!- Ququman has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:52:23 !tell PleasingFungus I am confused! http://i.imgur.com/Jd7zHWs.png 18:52:23 nikheizen: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 19:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:08:43 -!- LexAckson_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:12:39 -!- Dracunos-m has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:12:39 -!- muravey has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 19:16:25 -!- homsar has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:20:43 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:24:26 -!- elan has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:31:22 imo ice form needs a rethink 19:31:41 it's basically useless 19:32:29 ice form is great 19:32:43 what for? 19:33:09 its an early form that gives strong melee with a strong brand and an AC bonus 19:33:31 blade hands is better damage, better AC, and better EV 19:33:38 just a bit worse HP 19:34:11 and single school level 5 takes similar xp to dual school level 4 19:34:28 blade hands is worse AC if you're felid, op, dr... 19:34:37 or just a light-armour kind of guy 19:34:51 if you're a felid you lose your amazing move speed 19:34:54 also I wouldn't want to blade hands on hydras when I first enter Lair 19:34:58 if you're an Op, ok 19:34:58 actually i'm not sure about dr. their scales might be better 19:35:14 so ice form is good on OpTm and nothing else 19:35:18 -!- ig0rbit has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:35:50 you dont want to melee hydras at all 19:36:25 i don't know if you've ever met players. they love meleeing hydras 19:36:33 heh 19:37:00 it's actually really nice to be able to cast a spell and kill a hydra and not have to worry about it 19:37:06 I've used ice form on felids to good effect when combined with ozo armour 19:37:21 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:37:24 but with the synergy removed and the ozo slow now... 19:37:40 I just think ice form is underwhelming 19:37:45 -!- ig0rbit has quit [Client Quit] 19:38:55 ??ice form 19:38:55 ice form[1/3]: +20% HP, rF-, rC+++, rPois. Makes you large, which will reduce EV (for human size and smaller races). Melds all armour, but gives 5-12 AC. 12+UC base damage with freezing brand. Players in ice form can float through water, but get no aquatic bonuses and can't reach submerged items. Found in Books of Changes and Ice, L4 ice/tmut. 19:39:20 even the max power 12 AC is barely enough to comfortably melee a hydra 19:39:23 if we removed spells for being underwhelming, ice form would not be the first to go 19:39:30 true 19:39:51 -!- ig0rbit has quit [Client Quit] 19:40:07 though did you see that guy in the discord who was super excited about literally every spell that common wisdom says is terrible? 19:40:16 comboing fulminant prism + gells + inner flame 19:40:39 fulminant prism is great! 19:42:03 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: magistern] 19:42:31 -!- ig0rbit has quit [Client Quit] 19:43:01 rip inner flaming your summons 19:44:10 -!- ig0rbit has quit [Client Quit] 19:45:26 -!- ig0rbit has quit [Client Quit] 19:47:37 -!- ig0rbit has quit [Client Quit] 19:48:58 -!- ig0rbit has quit [Client Quit] 19:49:50 -!- docnvk has quit [Excess Flood] 19:55:29 -!- aditya has quit [Quit: Bye] 19:57:53 -!- } has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:01:44 -!- docnvk has quit [Excess Flood] 20:07:15 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:10:06 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 20:10:48 -!- adibis has joined ##crawl-dev 20:13:04 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:15:27 -!- xyblor_ is now known as xyblor 20:15:29 -!- Brannock has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 20:16:51 -!- Dracunos7 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:16:59 -!- Dracunos-m has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:23:24 -!- jefus has joined ##crawl-dev 20:26:37 -!- Cimanyd has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:32:52 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:33:44 -!- LexAckson_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:37:59 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:40:13 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:42:23 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 20:43:44 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:49:59 -!- Brannock has joined ##crawl-dev 20:51:59 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:06:48 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:08:50 -!- Doesnty has joined ##crawl-dev 21:15:51 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 21:15:57 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. 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:o 23:30:43 yes 23:30:47 nice 23:34:08 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 23:36:11 i'm just trying to decide whether it should be frail 1 or 2 23:37:15 -!- koboldina has joined ##crawl-dev 23:37:21 rumors of my demise have been greatly exaggerated 23:37:27 lmao 23:37:43 who grabbed you? gamma, wormcan? 23:37:48 it was gamma 23:37:49 he is a villain 23:37:53 it was? 23:37:58 he kept me in a wooden box for a month 23:38:03 !hs koboldina homo cjr 23:38:04 1. koboldina the Messiah (L27 HOMo of Beogh), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2016-07-12 08:26:14, with 9967527 points after 171594 turns and 19:37:42. 23:38:06 he would only give me my own t-shirts to eat 23:38:09 !hs . howz cjr 23:38:10 4. gammafunk the Infernalist (L27 HOWz of Sif Muna), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2016-08-02 01:17:04, with 10282328 points after 165135 turns and 21:52:58. 23:38:11 f*cked up, imo 23:38:13 man 23:38:18 I was one above that HoMo 23:38:20 felt good 23:38:26 I'm the number one homo 23:38:40 that's friggin inspriing 23:38:46 hey gamma 23:39:00 what if i put like, a stepdown on ench duration 23:39:15 above... ten turns? 23:39:20 hrm, well that would have a big impact on forms 23:39:22 *confuse/para ench duration 23:39:24 sorry 23:39:30 oh 23:39:45 does this apply the same way to players and monsters? 23:40:04 the current system does 23:40:20 player confuse lasts a rather long time with decent spell power, which could see a reduction 23:40:26 I guess my concern is the effect on the player 23:40:30 yeah 23:40:50 er, when I said player confuse, I should have said the player confuse spell 23:41:06 and wands 23:41:11 so that could see a nerf, but the confuse effect on the player perhaps less 23:41:27 you know I don't recall that one lasting too long, but it's probably in the same boat 23:41:28 confuse dur on the player is calculated totally differently, i think 23:41:30 -!- _dhm has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:41:37 yep 23:41:42 doesn't scale with power at all 23:41:51 flat 5-7 turns 23:41:56 ah, well that's that then 23:42:43 right now, 50 power confusion will confuse monsters for 50 turns 23:42:46 the only player-usable form of para is...hrm, I guess the wand, Ru passive, Usk passive? 23:42:54 Yeah 50 turns is pretty much just obscene 23:43:03 I mean, it's nice as a player, but not really balanced to me 23:43:04 latter two follow a different codepath, probably 23:44:41 It doesn't seem wrong to me to stepdown the effects of para/confuse on monsters 23:45:31 -!- jooles has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:45:33 Para is less a problem since it has less availability, and I'm not even sure what a max evo para wand would get you duration-wise 23:45:57 -!- minqmay has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:46:11 obviously it doesn't have a L2 spell to take advantage of, nor is it as available in general 23:46:17 i ran into this since hex ancestors use the same codepath 23:46:22 para spell 23:46:23 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:46:43 -!- Nomi has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:46:46 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 23:46:47 The build passed. (hep_frailty - 5014663 #6320 : Nicholas Feinberg): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/151400049 23:46:47 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 23:46:52 if you halve at say, 10 turns, 15 turns, 20 turns, you end up with a 21-turn duration at 50 power 23:47:13 27 turns at 100 power 23:47:28 -!- paxed has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 23:48:14 -!- xormask has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 23:48:27 seems reasonable given that enchantment spellpower is stepped down, anyway 23:48:43 oh, i did forget about that 23:48:45 hrm 23:48:50 someone find me the relevant code 23:49:06 !source ench_power_stepdown 23:49:06 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/beam.cc#L6653 23:49:15 !source stepdown_value 23:49:16 1/1. https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/stepdown.cc#L48 23:49:33 lol, that 100 is just unused 23:49:55 -!- xormask has joined ##crawl-dev 23:51:11 -!- CaptainFruitcake has joined ##crawl-dev 23:51:33 why not just add a spellpower cap to confusion 23:51:35 -!- Zymurgist1 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:51:39 it has one 23:51:44 rather than add stepdown 23:51:47 well, a lower one :P 23:51:50 but spellpower also affects resist chance 23:51:57 i have no problem with hexes affecting tougher enemies 23:52:09 tricky 23:52:21 too bad MR has to remain a thing 23:52:34 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 23:52:50 -!- CanOfWorms has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 23:52:51 -!- CaptainFruitcake is now known as CanOfWorms 23:55:29 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]