00:00:03 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:01:03 -!- wob has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:04:47 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:05:53 -!- Kurshu has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 00:07:21 -!- kdrnic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:12:16 -!- Zymurgist has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:20:48 ??faerie dragon armour 00:20:48 faerie dragon armour[1/2]: A randart mottled dragon armour with fixed appearance, worn by the Enchantress. Has between -2 and +8 enchantment, can have some properties not allowed on other randarts. 00:20:55 is it still possible for this to have negative enchantment 00:20:59 great q 00:21:31 item_def doodad; 00:21:51 // On body armour, an enchantment of less than 0 is never viable. 00:21:53 item.plus = max(static_cast(random2(6) + random2(6) - 2), random2(2)); 00:22:05 I'm very curious about that cast 00:22:05 yeah but does fearie dragon enchantment get set later 00:22:19 that is faerie dragon armour specific code 00:22:26 the comment seems to have been copy-pasted 00:22:32 lol 00:22:45 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: probably at one point the LHS did something that caused it to produce a long or unsigned 00:22:55 plausible 00:23:01 well 00:23:03 probably not unsigned 00:23:07 <|amethyst> and since max is templated to take anything, that would result in an ambiguous overload 00:23:16 <|amethyst> hm 00:23:21 <|amethyst> hm 00:23:27 i'll do some archaeology 00:23:31 since now i'm curious 00:23:33 <|amethyst> actually, maybe the RHS was an unsigned? 00:24:12 !learn e faerie_dragon_armour[1 s/-2/0/ 00:24:12 faerie dragon armour[1/2]: A randart mottled dragon armour with fixed appearance, worn by the Enchantress. Has between 0 and +8 enchantment, can have some properties not allowed on other randarts. 00:26:01 <|amethyst> hm 00:26:08 <|amethyst> added in 00:26:11 <|amethyst> %git dc1e7139 00:26:11 07Lasty02 * 0.17-a0-36-gdc1e713: Don't allow body armour or weapon randarts to have negative enchantment 10(1 year, 5 months ago, 3 files, 13+ 3-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/dc1e71391185 00:26:14 ahh, got it 00:26:16 yeah 00:26:18 it's just copy pasted from the others 00:26:22 <|amethyst> yeah 00:26:24 where it's directly applied to item.plus 00:26:42 <|amethyst> personally 00:26:44 faerie dragon armour should have a shout out to elynae in the description 00:26:46 <|amethyst> I'd rather write 00:26:56 minmay: ? 00:27:18 <|amethyst> max(random2(4), item.plus) 00:27:48 i'm just gonna kill the faerie cast for now 00:28:08 reasonable to change the others separately 00:28:21 PleasingFungus: elynae is a historically important crawl figure and has expressed romantic interest in faeries, so it seems appropriate 00:28:33 ahh 00:28:37 was aware of former (vaguely) but not latter 00:28:46 or possibly i blotted it out of my memory 00:29:49 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 00:31:03 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:32:13 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: magistern] 00:32:16 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-1072-g3763c35: Remove an unused cast 10(27 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3763c35f915e 00:32:21 Beogh's Smiting ability can target walls and other useless tiles 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=10595 by Ultraviolent4 00:34:08 -!- homsar has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:34:29 -!- Dracunos has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:38:08 -!- nikheizen has quit [Quit: leaving] 00:39:09 <|amethyst> RIP invisible rock worms 00:40:01 ...very nearly a good clan name. 00:42:48 -!- Dracunos-m has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:44:43 clearly, the appropriate clan name would be "Bring Back Invisible Rock Worms" 00:46:33 mm 00:46:42 The Invisible Rock Worm Returns 00:47:14 <|amethyst> Invisible Rock Worm Targeter? 00:47:19 oooh 00:47:22 i quite like that. 00:48:22 <|amethyst> !learn add reserved_clan_names Invisible Rock Worm Targeter 00:48:22 reserved clan names[25/25]: Invisible Rock Worm Targeter 00:48:48 did amalloy get his dieselrobin clan together? 00:48:56 i was literally just typing out that we need one more 00:49:11 wheals joined 00:49:34 Hans Jorgrunsson, Invisible Rock Worm Targeter 00:50:25 ontoclasm: just s/, / and the/ and you've got the name of a rock band 00:50:35 mmm 00:50:47 heh 00:51:02 -!- homsar has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:51:47 -!- zxc has joined ##crawl-dev 00:52:54 you looking to join up, PleasingFungus, or just beating the drum on my behalf? 00:53:40 was gonna nominate |amethyst 00:53:53 he needs to get more hours in if he's gonna be a Crawl Pro. 00:53:57 1000 hours of practice! 00:54:15 also i felt bad about not volunteering myself' 00:56:22 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:59:06 -!- cait has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:00:45 i fix a disturbing number of problems with my C++ code by adding more { }s. 01:01:01 that wasn't really apropos, sorry. 01:02:09 dieselrobin! 01:02:16 Kramin: you gotta find me one more dev 01:02:27 lasty? 01:02:41 he'll be on awbw team most likely 01:02:42 i would happily take lasty of course. he hasn't been around much afaik 01:02:46 if he's not busy 01:03:06 wheals :P 01:03:13 already got wheals 01:03:22 oh right 01:03:25 um 01:03:45 i wonder if r-i would like to play 01:03:53 i doubt it but i can ask 01:03:55 who is r-i 01:04:04 regret-index, formerly went by a rapidly changing set of nicks 01:04:09 reverse-innovation 01:04:14 rude. 01:04:20 what everyone on tavern wishes we would do: stop changing things 01:04:27 bring back MD 01:04:32 gammafunk? 01:04:39 no? 01:04:44 gf won't play 01:04:47 not streamable enough for him 01:04:49 <|amethyst> rename Deep Dwarf to Mountain Dwarf 01:04:50 oh 01:04:50 ok 01:04:51 doesn't tavern want us to remove bread rations 01:04:55 you're asking about diesel 01:04:56 or something 01:04:58 yeah not for me this time 01:05:11 next DR is mandatory for devs 01:05:13 <|amethyst> if we're going to remove one ration it should be meat rations 01:05:19 otherwise dev license revoked 01:05:19 my no was a general response to the open question of "gammafunk?" 01:05:29 gammafunk? absolutely not. 01:05:32 exactly. 01:05:36 never gammafunk 01:05:39 gammafunk: not even once 01:05:44 gammafunk? i hardly know 'er 01:05:56 thou shalt not gammafunk 01:06:07 wheals is a maybe at *best*, but still not a definite no 01:06:23 <|amethyst> anyone listen to the Misfits? 01:06:34 again speaking of the open question of "wheals?", not DR 01:06:35 <|amethyst> Little gammafunk, it's a shame that trunk is the only branch 01:07:14 r-i is a definite no. 01:07:21 but, only in context of dieselrobin. 01:07:30 remains a mystery in all other aspects. 01:07:38 conscript elliptic :) 01:07:54 secretly get him to do all the missions 01:07:58 win 01:08:03 vote for HESu, his favorite combo 01:08:36 DR does sound cool, but yeah timing and I can't stream it all that well :( 01:09:31 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-1072-g3763c35 (34) 01:09:53 demise only wants to play if he can get youtube vidoes out of it 01:09:57 man 01:10:11 just need one more and we can put you all in a team 01:13:09 if new scoring was here and had cheeovos that showed on my player page 01:13:20 I'd be more tempted! 01:13:20 hmm 01:13:34 get cheqdog on the phone 01:13:58 as it is I hate to play on alt accounts since as infrequently as I need every win to make it to 100 01:14:14 *as infrequently as I play 01:14:45 !seen chequers 01:14:45 I last saw chequers at Fri Aug 5 03:02:15 2016 UTC (2h 12m 30s ago) saying 'wacky suggestion for spell fail rate + ER: instead of modifying spell fail rate with ER, use ER to cap the maximum spell level you can cast' on ##crawl-dev. 01:14:48 o 01:14:51 i remember that 01:15:13 yeah I think we all dissagreed with that one 01:15:30 not to discourage innovation :P 01:15:37 you gotta be willing to say dumb shit if you want to think of things no one has already 01:15:44 thus, my posting 01:15:46 xactly 01:15:51 I saw a good image about that recently 01:16:12 saw a good talk relating to that recently 01:16:17 by john cleese 01:16:24 cool 01:16:25 on creativity 01:16:28 something like "Before you think your idea is too dumb to say, remember that someone once said in a meeting 'Let's make a movie about a tornado of sharks'." 01:16:29 look it up 01:16:48 heh 01:19:36 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-1072-g3763c35 (34) 01:20:30 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:20:46 -!- valrus has quit [Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 01:23:07 -!- simmarine_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:33:04 -!- Dracunos-m has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:35:45 Kramin: i mean, obviously demise *can* get youtube videos out of dieselrobin 01:36:16 i certainly will 01:38:42 at least one, anyway; i suppose nobody can be certain they'll get more than one session out of dieselrobin 01:51:29 yeah, lasty is probably free to be on the dev team 01:51:41 since me walker and morgan are on a team 01:51:55 apparently 01:52:28 apparently 01:55:22 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.19-a0-1072-g3763c35 02:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:04:10 bad ideas: bring back Hellfire, but as a new partially resistible fire damage type. so i guess, uh, that's lava. 02:04:17 this idea didn't even last an entire sentence. 02:07:09 -!- VoxSomniator has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:08:20 lavastorm 02:08:57 you could have something like dark souls, where lava erupts out of the ground nearby at random. so qazlal's disaster area, or possibly ring of flame, depending on how you want to think about it. 02:09:07 crawl has too many things in it. every time i think of something cool, it already exists. 02:10:37 it might be nice if ring of flames was less niche. it feels a little niche, as a player spell. 02:11:47 I wish ring of flames wasn't an enhancer, didn't affect resists, and was lower level 02:12:40 so you want it to only burn dudes standing next to you? 02:13:01 basically, yeah. I feel like it's a whole lot of things and I don't know what to make of it 02:13:10 admittedly that's how i always use it 02:13:17 but that's because i've only used it as a xom effect 02:13:18 you use it to roleplay being asmodeus, duh 02:13:48 it's true, just using his tile isn't enough 02:13:53 like being surrounded by fire that constantly damages stuff is cool 02:13:55 it would honestly still have to be pretty high level, i think. flame clouds are very high damage, and to add that on top of sticky flame makes a melee fire elementalist's damage output pretty nuts 02:14:15 like at least level 5 02:14:24 I was gonna say 5 myself 02:14:37 well, it covers 9 times the area of cflame 02:14:41 and travels with you 02:14:49 make it level 27 02:14:49 heh 02:14:51 exactly! 02:14:59 not like you're getting 9 enemies to stand in it all the time 02:15:06 I mean pretty much no matter what 02:15:08 FE^Qaz tech 02:15:12 it will be 'worse' than conjure flame 02:15:27 because it's not hard to get things to walk into conjure flame's clouds 02:15:35 and that kills everything thru like 02:15:40 lair and a bit beyond 02:16:19 it'd just be higher level in exchange for being cooler and less of a hassle 02:16:30 (well, and different schools) 02:16:46 i don't think it would be a charm anymore 02:17:03 if it's literally just the conjure flame effect 02:17:05 yeah, if it's not enhancing or giving you a resist profile anymore 02:17:11 sure 02:17:17 it's just mobile 02:17:23 which strikes me as the major advantage 02:17:30 at any rate I just wanna. play an orc, use battleaxe and ring of flames 02:17:37 and cut stuff while burning em 02:20:35 sounds suspiciously like cooking 02:23:12 don't shame my roleplaying 02:24:38 PleasingFungus: hi 02:27:18 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:28:01 -!- orost has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:28:56 -!- Zxpr2jk has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:30:34 hello 02:35:20 people were talking about scoring pages 02:38:50 -!- Siegurt has joined ##crawl-dev 02:42:01 -!- Siegurt has quit [Client Quit] 02:45:35 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. 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reading through coding_conventions.txt is there any other thing I should read or know before writing patches? 14:57:23 You know, aside from this big codebase 15:00:02 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:00:35 -!- homsar has quit [] 15:02:25 nothing too essential hopefully 15:07:58 -!- AltReality has quit [Quit: Shame on us, doomed from the start, May God have mercy on our dirty little hearts. Shame on us, for what we've done, and all we ever were, just zeros and ones.] 15:08:15 whatcha thinkin bout? 15:09:45 I had some minor text tweaks I was thinking of doing, but the big one I wanted to do was to tackle the draconian tail-slap thing that I made a thread about a few weeks back 15:09:56 adding it to the A-list? 15:09:59 yes 15:10:08 didn't i remove grey drac tail slaps like two years ago 15:10:48 after that, I wanted to see if I could make the existence of auxiliary attacks clearer on the character sheet 15:11:04 you don't know that your horns can be used to attack unless you're watching the combat log 15:11:09 -!- JimmahDean has quit [] 15:11:14 maybe i only thought about it very loudly 15:12:05 I was working on showing what mutations are supressed by items in A at some point 15:12:14 but never finished that one :( 15:12:36 ohh 15:12:39 %git 8e077e5b3dbaf6d8c18e8ab30cf8f8300dd664c8 15:12:39 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.15-a0-2137-g8e077e5: Remove (grey) draconic trampling 10(2 years, 1 month ago, 1 file, 0+ 7-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/8e077e5b3dba 15:12:54 Medar: imo toss a WIP up as a branch, if you still have it around 15:13:47 i guess it might be rotted 15:14:22 I think it was mostly I realized I should have had a different approach or something 15:15:52 ahh 15:16:54 one thing that wasn't covered in coding_conventions.txt was patch conventions. for instance if I make multiple small changes to text to unrelated things, should I submit each as a separate patch or all together? 15:17:37 Capitalization fixes should probably be all-together, but capitalization fixes and wording changes? 15:18:17 !source files.cc 15:18:17 https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/source/files.cc 15:18:36 probably not a big deal either way, as long as it's not a ton of small patches 15:18:43 Brannock: doesn't matter really. it's technically tidier to do them separately but it's slightly more of a pain, so it balances out 15:18:46 what medar said. 15:18:54 Thank you 15:19:12 I have a bunch of time to kill while I'm up here waiting for the wedding so I might as well start reading through the codebase 15:19:24 you can have two commits and one push request for example 15:19:24 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: I'M OUT SON. PEACE, LOVE, EXPLOSIONS.] 15:19:45 *pull request 15:20:13 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 15:24:02 -!- ig0rbit has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:24:03 -!- qguv has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:29:56 -!- Alcopop has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:30:02 roctavian's new executioner tile looks good 15:30:32 i don't understand why he doesn't commit his own tiles 15:30:40 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:30:41 iirc he has permissions? 15:30:42 approval process? 15:30:47 ontoclasm, what do you think of the new tiles? 15:31:03 -!- ludd has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:31:19 -!- PleasingFungus is now known as ontoclasrn 15:31:32 they're terrible. i hate them. the worst 15:31:36 -!- ontoclasrn is now known as PleasingFungus 15:31:41 is this the work of a Mara?? 15:31:53 <|amethyst> We should name roctavian assistant art director 15:32:27 <|amethyst> s/assistant/associate/ 15:34:13 03PleasingFungus02 07[oubliette] * 0.19-a0-1103-gecc5d12: Merge branch 'master' into oubliette 10(27 seconds ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/ecc5d1244ad6 15:34:48 03PleasingFungus02 07[oubliette] * 0.19-a0-1104-g3322a26: Checkwhite. 10(12 seconds ago, 1 file, 22+ 22-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/3322a26c9f4e 15:35:34 I wonder how that new exec tile looks on dark floor tiles 15:35:34 messy merge commit. really needs a rebase one of these days 15:35:50 would only worry that it blends in too much 15:36:09 could brighten up the blades a bit 15:36:13 to give it a clear outline 15:36:34 Yeah, I might be wrong and it has great contrast 15:38:36 also, i don't understand the point of the minor tag in that branch. are we saving place info for NUM_BRANCHES? 15:39:12 PleasingFungus: there was deffo some save compat issues with making a new branch 15:39:16 ahh, i see 15:39:19 but it's been a while, so I forget... 15:39:25 global branch info is saved as NUM_BRANCHES 15:39:27 *saved for 15:40:02 did dpeg ask you about this branch, or you just happened to notice it and wanted to update? 15:40:16 tangential thought 15:40:17 I know he's still working on it as he has time, but I haven't heard anything recently 15:40:25 was thinking about portal vaults 15:41:14 -!- ig0rb1t has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 15:42:15 -!- AltReality has quit [Quit: Shame on us, doomed from the start, May God have mercy on our dirty little hearts. Shame on us, for what we've done, and all we ever were, just zeros and ones.] 15:44:42 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.19-a0-1073-g541410e: Deduplicate a check 10(59 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 2-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/541410edeee8 15:45:36 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 47.0/20160604131506]] 15:47:22 Brannock: which ones? 15:47:34 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9951 15:47:58 oh, at the bottom 15:48:34 those look pretty good in general 15:48:47 i feel like maybe some of them won't read very well 15:49:07 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 15:49:54 and yeah roc has commit rights so idk 15:50:32 -!- Kenran has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:51:33 -!- kdrnic has joined ##crawl-dev 15:57:42 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 16:00:09 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:00:42 are the naga tiles in? 16:00:57 I don't think the ritualist/gnaga ones are 16:04:04 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 16:04:34 Brannock: well, i made a set of nagas 16:04:51 so the ones on that issue aren't, no 16:05:05 i think i'll use his trolls though, i just need to edit them a bit 16:05:27 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 16:06:05 the moon trool looks too grey 16:06:12 *troll 16:06:14 I prefer the current version 16:06:42 i think that's a ghost troll 16:06:46 for that one wizlab 16:06:59 i'd have to make a moon troll to match 16:07:02 + purgy and snorg 16:07:10 ah, I forgot about the monk wizlab 16:07:39 looking at current tiles now. your naga look much more dynamic than his. I like the hood on his ritualist though 16:09:39 Unstable branch on crawl.jorgrun.rocks updated to: 0.19-a0-1073-g541410e (34) 16:10:09 -!- ZiBuDo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:10:36 -!- ZiBuDo has joined ##crawl-dev 16:14:36 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 16:16:35 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 16:21:38 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 16:21:39 The build passed. 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How about keeping the old Serpent of Hell tiles for the same reasons? 16:58:04 <|amethyst> any thoughts on letting Bcadren back into ##crawl-dev? it's been a year or two 16:59:10 -!- cait has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:59:15 if you really want to 16:59:23 Brannock: sure, why not 16:59:53 may I ask why he was banned? 16:59:58 <|amethyst> I don't remember the events that led up to the ban very well 17:00:01 -!- omarax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:00:10 iirc he was just an enormous pest for years 17:00:15 <|amethyst> which is why I was asking (that, and he asked me about lifting it) 17:00:24 yeah that's the brief summary of the ban 17:00:33 i think it happened before i joined 17:00:36 eah 17:00:49 no outright maliciousness aside from some instances of trying to get around people ignoring him through bot hijinks 17:00:53 ohh yeah 17:00:55 i remember that 17:00:56 he changed nicks a lot 17:01:00 oh and didn't he use weird nicks 17:01:11 right, doing that to also get around people ignoring him 17:01:48 now that you are talking about it, I remember him harassing me re: his mental disorder(s) 17:01:52 oh god right that too 17:01:58 he gave me his life story at one point 17:02:07 paragraphs and paragraphs that i did not read 17:02:31 trying to decide what directory to store the old-serpent-placename tiles in. rltiles\mon\unique seems to be the default, but serpent_of_hell-placename tiles already reside there. undecided if the name difference will be enough to prevent confusion 17:02:44 could add a new playertiles directory 17:02:54 |amethyst: i was going to say 'i guess unban him if you think he's really changed his ways' but i'm leaning toward no now 17:02:57 old serpent placename tiles? 17:02:58 <|amethyst> but banning presumably involved explicitly not following requests to change some behaviour 17:03:21 old-serpent-gehenna and so on 17:03:35 well, are you replacing those tiles? 17:03:38 no 17:03:40 gammafunk: he's talking about re-adding the old single-height serpent of hell tiles for player use 17:03:44 ah, ok 17:03:46 like the giaggustuono 17:03:49 (sp) 17:04:15 yeah, they have to have new enum names already 17:04:34 so you're going to give them new filename and a new enum in the tiledef txt file 17:04:42 <|amethyst> I would say let him in with a warning that any future bad will be permanent 17:04:55 <|amethyst> but my judgment has been poor on similar matters before 17:04:55 Giaggostuono and Lamia are in mon\unique right now. Probably make a unique_tiles under \rltiles\player for better organization? 17:04:59 PERMANENT bad 17:05:04 gammafunk, yes 17:05:25 yeah I suppose putting player-specific tiles in a dir would be nice 17:05:44 <|amethyst> nikheizen: It's an 80s band, but could be just about any genre with that name 17:05:46 well, it will complicate the statements in the txt file 17:06:03 since those require setting a working relative dir to load the tiles 17:06:20 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 17:06:21 The build passed. (oubliette - ecc5d12 #6263 : Nicholas Feinberg): https://travis-ci.org/crawl/crawl/builds/150140773 17:06:21 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 17:08:11 gammafunk: how would it be a different problem from existing subdirectories? 17:08:17 i mean, assuming this is like rltiles/mon/player 17:08:32 not rltiles/playermon, which maybe is what you were thinking of? 17:08:54 |amethyst: Is it now? Pretty good band name. 17:09:17 <|amethyst> nikheizen: I don't know if it *really* is, but the 80s can be, like, anything you want, man 17:09:21 |amethyst: looking around the logs at the time of the ban, bcadren doesn't seem to have been doing anything notable at the time. possible there was something in direct messages, or another channel 17:09:43 PleasingFungus: I guess what I'm saying is, the definition statements for all the player-only monster tiles would need to be moved to a dedicated section 17:09:49 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: what's the date? 17:09:51 of that txt definition file 17:10:08 so it's just a little work to do that, definitely fine to do 17:10:09 I can do that 17:10:17 can you?! CAN YOU?!?! 17:10:20 we'll find out!! 17:10:39 Tune in next time on ##crawl-dev, for the exciting finale! 17:12:05 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 17:12:05 |amethyst: Like... woah. 17:12:06 there's nothing about it on rym, so learn add reserved_band_names 17:12:22 20150405 seems to have been the last time he was active (so about 16 months ago) 17:12:31 so my wifi went out for a little while, and i got those last seven messages between gammafunk and Brannock all at once 17:12:37 it was very intense 17:12:42 |amethyst: the date of what? 17:13:02 the date i'm going on with sonja? because i have to warn ##-dev, you guys are NOT invited 17:13:15 -!- aredel has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:13:24 |amethyst: i find bcadren annoying myself, but i support giving him another chance. i don't like assuming people never change 17:13:52 <|amethyst> I guess dpeg is the person to ask 17:13:55 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:13:57 <|amethyst> since he is the one who banned 17:14:11 <|amethyst> he might or might not have intended that to be permanent 17:14:27 <|amethyst> s/banned/kicked/ 17:14:47 -!- e25 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:15:04 hm. some of the tiles are listed under monster categories, like Giaggostuono is listed under Drakes. If I move his entry to ## Custom player tiles will this break anything wrt code detection for tiles finding? 17:15:12 <|amethyst> also, needs someone who has ##crawl-dev ops and knows this stuff 17:15:23 generally no 17:15:36 I do believe it was intentional, since bcadren had been considered a problem for some time, but if several people would like the ban lifted then that's ok 17:16:04 I'm doubtfull unbanning would lead to anything productive. Obviously I'm not really around, so my opinion isn't too important. 17:16:08 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 17:16:10 i wouldn't expect anything productive to come from unbanning personally 17:16:18 yeah i'd lean toward keeping him banned, since he has plenty of other channels to communicate through (e.g. tavern) 17:16:24 judging from their recent tavern posts which seem to be about the same as the old ones 17:16:42 and ##crawl behaviour of spamming those tavern links 17:16:52 since he has plenty of other channels to be ignored through*? 17:17:02 as you like it 17:17:11 :) 17:17:54 Do we have any other removed uniques? I think there's Maud and... 17:18:03 adolf 17:18:05 Might as well move them into mon\player 17:18:08 hm, doesn't really count 17:18:11 I mean currently existing in mon\unique 17:18:23 i expect we generally remove those as we go 17:18:32 you'd have to hunt through old commits to find others 17:18:34 was wiglaf's tile removed? 17:18:54 it's not in \unique, at the least 17:19:06 lamia is in there still 17:19:21 i suspect lamia was re-added 17:19:27 %git a3cd88f795e759b799125f541b0db1989ea58fce 17:19:27 07regret-index02 * 0.19-a0-967-ga3cd88f: Combine Wiglaf and Donald 10(4 weeks ago, 32 files, 99+ 332-) 13https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/a3cd88f795e7 17:19:33 I'm moving lamia into mon\player 17:19:40 as a sort of preservatory for old tiles 17:19:43 i think that was deliberately kept around because of people wanting to use it for player glyphs yeah 17:19:49 ah, unused 17:19:53 can stuff in UNUSED not be used for that? 17:19:55 player glyphs... 17:19:58 it cannot 17:20:04 no, unused isn't put on a tilesheet 17:20:10 well, it has to have an entry in dc-mon, anyway 17:20:18 we've talked about just removing UNUSDED and moving that stuff to the crawl-tiles repo 17:20:24 i suppose there's not really much point of unused 17:20:24 *UNUSED 17:20:45 since yeah, and it's around in git history if it's really needed for something 17:21:04 unborn, I forgot about these 17:21:25 okay, I guess I'll rescue wiglaf from there into mon\player 17:21:27 they were the ones with haunt, right 17:21:30 he's sufficiently unique-looking 17:21:36 fact: the player is the real monster 17:21:53